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Reason Roundup

Idaho Takes Aim at Interstate Travel for Abortion. Health Care Providers Are Suing.

Plus: Australia's failed news media bargaining code, two ways government created an Adderall shortage, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 4.6.2023 9:34 AM

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Two doctors and a Planned Parenthood affiliate are suing Idaho Attorney General Raúl Labrador after the Gem State's top cop stated that it's illegal for doctors to refer residents to out-of-state abortion providers. This would represent a clear violation of numerous constitutional rights, they argue.

Labrador's assertion is part of a larger attempt by Idaho Republicans to enforce the state's strict abortion ban even outside of state lines. Abortion is totally banned in Idaho except in cases involving rape, incest, or a threat to the mother's life, and minors in these circumstances can only obtain an abortion with a parent or guardian's permission.

On Wednesday, Republican Gov. Brad Little signed a law creating the new crime of "abortion trafficking." The law makes it illegal to help someone under age 18 obtain an abortion "by recruiting, harboring, or transporting the pregnant minor within this state" without a parent or guardian's permission, with violations punishable by two to five years in prison.

The new law "is somewhat strangely worded," Reason's Emma Camp noted recently, "as it technically does not criminalize the act of crossing state lines to help a minor obtain an abortion without parental consent, which is what would practically be required in a state where abortion is almost entirely illegal." But the abortion trafficking law tacitly takes aim at helping minors travel out of state for abortions, stating that the fact that "the abortion provider or the abortion-inducing drug provider is located in another state" cannot be used as an affirmative defense. So it seems an Idaho resident who helped an Idaho teenager arrange an out-of-state abortion, arrange to purchase abortion pills in another state, or travel at all within the state on the way out of state could still be charged with abortion trafficking even if the abortion itself doesn't take place in Idaho. The law also "allows the filing of lawsuits against doctors who perform such abortions, even if the doctors live outside the state," notes The New York Times.

That the abortion trafficking statute is meant to prevent out-of-state travel is made clear in a Wednesday letter from Little. The measure seeks "to prevent unemancipated minor girls from being taken across state lines for an abortion without the knowledge or consent of her parent or guardian," he wrote.

And the state isn't stopping at trying to prevent girls from going out of state for abortions.

In a March 27 letter to Idaho Rep. Brent Crane (R–Nampa), Labrador wrote that Idaho's criminal prohibitions on abortion "preclude 1) the provision of abortion pills, 2) the promotion of abortion pills, and 3) referring women across state lines to obtain abortion services or prescribing abortion pills that will be picked up across state lines."

Only the first of these prohibitions would seem to be clearly constitutional. A ban on "promoting" abortion bills runs into free speech issues. And a ban on referring women out of state for an abortion may violate speech rights as well as the Dormant Commerce Clause, which prevents states from authorizing barriers to interstate economic activity.

In his letter, Labrador elaborated that it's a felony for "every person, except licensed physicians" to willfully publish "any notice or advertisement of any medicine or means for producing or facilitating a miscarriage or abortion."

But courts have previously ruled against similar statutes in other states, pre-Roe. And the U.S. Supreme Court even ruled— in 1975's Bigelow v. Virginia—that a Virginia ban on abortion advertising violated the First Amendment.

Labrador also claimed in his letter to Crane that "an Idaho health care professional who refers a woman across state lines to an abortion provider…has given support or aid to the woman in performing or attempting to perform an abortion and has thus violated" state law. It's this latter part of Labrador's letter that a new lawsuit takes issue with.

The suit was filed in federal court by two doctors (Caitlin Gustafson and Darin L. Weyhrich) and Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest, Hawaii, Alaska, Indiana, and Kentucky.

"Labrador's interpretation is unprecedented and amounts to a clear threat that Idaho will seek to punish individuals for speech and conduct related to abortions that take place in states where abortion is legal," they write in their complaint. "Labrador's interpretation attempts to bring plainly First Amendment-protected activity within the ambit of the Total Abortion Ban. Moreover, his interpretation depends on the assertion that Idaho law punishes abortions performed outside of Idaho—a clear Due Process and Dormant Commerce Clause violation."


FREE MINDS

Let's not import Australia's failed news media bargaining code. American Affairs takes a look at the effects of Australia's news bargaining code, a stultifying system that some U.S. legislators want to imitate here. "If publishers bargaining for payments from platforms was going to save local journalism in Australia, we'd probably know it by now," Chris Krewson, executive director of LION Publishers, writes:

After all, back in 2021 Australia passed the News Media Bargaining Code, presented as a way for publishers to claw back advertising revenue. In their eyes, their articles, photos, columns, editorials, and letters to the editor—their "content"—was a big reason why the internet platforms (primarily Google and Facebook) had hoovered up nearly all the digital advertising dollars globally available. Banding together in a cartel, as made permissible by the Bargaining Code, would allow those publishers some leverage, and allow them to be compensated for the content.

There are, of course, problems with the idea that platforms derived much of their value to advertisers from news. (In fact, advertisers have for years been trying to move their brands to safer places, and remove their perfumes, cars, and clothes from alighting next to the latest mass shooting or the occasional armed insurrection.)

But—setting all that aside—legislators in Australia passed the Code. So what happened next? If all went to plan, bargaining began; platforms, publishers, and mediators hashed out fair deals in this experiment.

Instead, Google and Facebook each cut side deals with publishers—the details of which are not public, as there are nondisclosure agreements barring further review.

Where is that money going? No one knows. There's "no evidence that the dollars that flowed actually meant more journalism" and not more compensation for publishing execs, notes Krewson. Nor has the money stopped the industry from contracting:

In October 2021, "Australia's news sector has experienced the third largest number of contractions within a single quarter since Covid-19 emerged," per the Australian News Data Report from the Public Interest Journalism Institute.

Meanwhile, most small publishers don't qualify to be part of the bargaining deal, they say.


FREE MARKETS

Two explanations for the Adderall shortage but one culprit: government. "Patients diagnosed with conditions like anxiety and sleep disorders have become caught in the crosshairs of America's opioid crisis, as secret policies mandated by a national opioid settlement have turned filling legitimate prescriptions into a major headache," reports Fortune magazine:

In July, limits went into effect that flag and sometimes block pharmacies' orders of controlled substances such as Adderall and Xanax when they exceed a certain threshold. The requirement stems from a 2021 settlement with the US's three largest drug distributors — AmerisourceBergen Corp., Cardinal Health Inc. and McKesson Corp. But pharmacists said it curtails their ability to fill prescriptions for many different types of controlled substances — not just opioids.

Independent pharmacists said the rules force them come up with creative workarounds. Sometimes, they must send patients on frustrating journeys to find pharmacies that haven't yet exceeded their caps in order to buy prescribed medicines.

"I understand the intention of this policy is to have control of controlled substances so they don't get abused, but it's not working," said Richard Glotzer, an independent pharmacist in Millwood, New York. "There's no reason I should be cut off from ordering these products to dispense to my legitimate patients that need it."

More from Fortune here.

Reason also tackled the Adderall shortage problem in its April issue. In addition to the restrictions on pharmacy orders, the shortage also stems from production limits set by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).

"Each year, the DEA sets production limits for the ingredients of Schedule I and II drugs, and manufacturers apply for pieces of the quotas. Total production of a drug cannot exceed the DEA's ceiling," notes Joe Lancaster. "The DEA says it determines the quotas based on the amount that is annually prescribed. But even after the FDA reported a shortage, the DEA kept the 2022 levels intact in its 2023 quotas for Adderall's ingredients: dextroamphetamine saccharate, amphetamine aspartate, dextroamphetamine sulfate, and amphetamine sulfate."


FOLLOW-UP

What's next in the Trump criminal case. "The judge presiding over Donald Trump's criminal case said he intends to move swiftly, but between the slow-moving New York court system and Trump's tendency to push for delays in legal matters, analysts expect the case to linger and collide with the 2024 presidential campaign," notes The Washington Post. "One of Trump's lawyers, Joe Tacopina, said Wednesday that he did not expect any significant developments before July." The first Republican primary debate is scheduled for August.

See also: "Prosecutors Are Still Hazy About What Crime Trump Was Trying To Conceal by Falsifying Business Records."


QUICK HITS

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president. The 69-year-old anti-vaccine activist and scion of one of the country's most famous political families is challenging incumbent President Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination. https://t.co/0oTaM5xPhy

— The Associated Press (@AP) April 5, 2023

• Defunding the police is now…a MAGA thing? Following his criminal indictment in New York City, Trump called on congressional Republicans to "defund the DOJ and FBI until they come to their senses."

• Indiana Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb just signed legislation banning gender transition treatments such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for minors.

• More and more literary classics are being retooled to remove "offensive" language.

• Michigan is now coding anti-police bias incidents as "hate crimes."

• "A leading group of medical experts says the term 'excited delirium' should not be listed as a cause of death," reports the Associated Press. "Critics have said the term has been used to justify excessive force by police."

• A Georgia mom arrested and jailed for letting her 14-year-old daughter babysit her younger siblings has, after three years, "prevailed in her legal ordeal," writes Lenore Skenazy.

• Is telling someone to "die" on Facebook protected by the First Amendment?

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        But FVCK is more Roman and classy.

        1. Unable2Reason   2 years ago

          Some prefer Greek.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

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        2. mad.casual   2 years ago

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

          The Wire had a great episode wherein that was pretty much the dialogue of the entire show.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

            You should watch ‘The Thick of It’ if you haven’t already. A pre Doctor Who Peter Capaldi is a vicious, foul mouthed delight on that show. Which is the basis for the HBO series Veep. It really showcases what utter self serving pieces of shit senior people in national government truly are.

    2. raspberrydinners   2 years ago

      Edgy.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Democrats in 2016: "FUCK TRUMP!!"

        Democrats in 2017: "FUCK TRUMP!!"

        Democrats in 2018: "FUCK TRUMP!!"

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    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

      Maybe the hot ones.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Two doctors and a Planned Parenthood affiliate are suing Idaho Attorney General Raúl Labrador...

    How the tables have turned. Labrador should do some surgery or something to get back at them.

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Gotta love when Idaho is in the title of the Roundup. It's usually ENB bitching about Idahoans refusing to allow porn in grade school, child transitions without parental consent, or crossing state lines with minors without parental consent.

      This is critiqued as opposite of libertarian principles according to Reason. Fucking clown world.

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        Italics fail, and the edit button doesn't work. Nice.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          5-minute timer on the edit button, for future reference.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            Also, expect the edit button to murder the markup in your original post.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

        Do we have a “don’t talk about Idaho!” rule in addition to our “don’t talk about DeSantis!” rule?

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        You do agree, don’t you, that Labrador is clearly overstepping in opining that it is illegal to introduce or promote pro-abortion bills in the legislature?

        1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

          Where is the evidence of "Labrador is clearly overstepping in opining that it is illegal to introduce or promote pro-abortion bills in the legislature"?

          This is not mentioned anywhere in the article above.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            My bad for believing a typo. (I wouldn’t have except the typo of “bill” for “pill” was made three times.)

            There were two typos in the blog post that appear to have been corrected. The third is still there: “A ban on ’promoting’ abortion bills runs into free speech issues.”

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              You were just saying yesterday Trump would be held in contempt for speaking publicly....

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

                Not the same. Because of the legal theory of the ‘but Trump!’ exception.

      4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

        If ENB has the courage of her convictions, then she should get her superfan Shrike to babysit her kids.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

      In a March 27 letter to Idaho Rep. Brent Crane (R–Nampa), Labrador wrote that Idaho’s criminal prohibitions on abortion “preclude 1) the provision of abortion pills, 2) the promotion of abortion pills,

      IIRC, there was a couple of episodes of The Walking Dead that involved getting one of the women in the group abortion pills in the post-infection world.

      Does this mean no more “Netflix and chill” in Potato-Land?

  4. Nardz   2 years ago

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    JUST IN: ???????? $10 trillion asset manager BlackRock Paris headquarters taken over by protestors.

    [Link]

    1. Rich   2 years ago

      'Don't worry. Your funds are secure.'

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        Smash the computers! That's where the assets are!

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          What? Not piles of gold coins in the basement?

          1. Unable2Reason   2 years ago

            Haven't you ever seen The Wild Bunch? Them's washers!

            1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              *Changing the lyrics to the opening of War Wagon*
              🙂

        2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          The files are in the computer!

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            It's so simple.

    2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      If things don't get fixed soon, I think we're going to see massive upheavals with revolutions and civil wars breaking out, perhaps spilling out internationally. I'm getting the sense we're about at the equivalent of the early 20th century. The only thing holding it back is that capitalism is so widespread and successful that it's allowing sufficient prosperity to keep the desperation fairly contained to smaller segments. But the elites are so disconnected and so opposed to free markets that they're quite happy to continue tearing down that prosperity until there's constant fighting in the streets.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        The only thing holding it back is that capitalism is so widespread and successful that it’s allowing sufficient prosperity to keep the desperation fairly contained to smaller segments. But the elites are so disconnected and so opposed to free markets that they’re quite happy to continue tearing down that prosperity until there’s constant fighting in the streets.

        The elites are definitely disconnected, but they've convinced a large swath of the rest of the population to go along with their half-baked social engineering schemes, and the west's institutions are largely slouching along through sheer force of habit more than anything else. These assholes have spent over 50 years selling Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism for the votes of increasingly lazy morons, and they're starting to suffer the consequences of those actions.

      2. HorseConch   2 years ago

        The economic numbers don't look bad, but they are being heavily buyoyed by the high earners. The bottom 1/2 is getting absolutely creamed by inflation and bad policy.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          This is just it. For the Western haute bourgeoisie things have been fantastic, they've never been richer and more powerful. But for the middle and working classes the last twenty years have been stagnation and worse.

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            They tell us directly that their plan is to make our lives worse.
            I wonder when we'll start believing them.

            1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

              I wonder when we’ll start believing them.

              When enough people realize that they "own nothing" but instead of being happy like they were told they'd be, they're anything but (or at least, when the drugs stop working they're not).

        2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          The bottom 1/2

          It's more like the bottom 80%.

      3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        they’re quite happy to continue tearing down that prosperity until there’s constant fighting in the streets.

        That's not because they're disconnected. That's the plan. They want civil unrest as a pretext for the full imposition of authoritarianism.

      4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        “….elites…….so opposed to free markets….”

        The protesters will NOT be demanding more free markets, unfortunately.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          No, but the biggest thing feeding protests will be people unable to climb the social and economic ladder. And the reason that happens is the filmed up educational system run by the government, and a heavily regulated economy that favors big corporations at the expense of smaller, family-owned operations. Protestors will blame the corporations and ignore that government specifically enabled them, and demand the govern intervene even harder, when what they need is more freedom.

    3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Good I hope they kill every single employee of blackrock

      1. Jerryskids   2 years ago

        Let's not be too quick to kill all the employees of Blackrock. Kill them slowly.

    4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Couldn't happen to a nicer group. Hope they fry their records.

    5. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

      Doesn’t Blackrock have teams set up for the express purpose of making troublemakers like that disappear?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Let's not import Australia's-

    anything! Let's not import Australia's anything. (Except maybe 1990's Nicole Kidman.)

    1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

      Also Vegemite! Don't forget Vegemite!

      1. SRG   2 years ago

        Vegemite is inferior to Marmite.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          That's like saying a gaping chest wound is inferior to a gaping head wound.

          1. SRG   2 years ago

            No - more like Salieri is inferior to Mozart.

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      The mad max series?

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

      Oh, you mean Christchurch? So I hear from the media, nothing ever existed Down Under before or after Christchurch.
      😉

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Two explanations for the Adderall shortage but one culprit: government.

    It's always the government's fault, isn't it, Reason?

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Over prescription of it since every kid now has ADD is not to blame.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        I'd definitely say it's partly a cultural thing, of needing to have a diagnosis for every slight aberration, combined with the entire discipline of psychiatry desperately trying to justify its own existence. If we'd actually pushed back sufficiently to slow this down 20 years ago, we might not have the current explosion of transitioning.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

          You are not cool unless your kid is fucked up. What would wine moms talk about if they didn't have a never ending list of problems on which to blame their shitty parenting?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Mom savior mentality. Mixed with mom victim mentality.

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          I think it's a different dynamic.

          It's the very hard pushing back on each other between Teams Red and Blue that is creating the current explosion of transitioning. The more Team Red engages in hardball tactics to try to stop gender politics the more Team Blue escalates the gender ideology. The more Team Blue escalates the gender ideaology the more Team Read escalates the hardball tactics.

          What conservatives should be doing instead of "pushing back", along with all their demonizing, exaggerating, mocking, Bible thumping, etc. is calmly giving reasoned arguments against gender ideaology. And calmly arguing against wokeness and cancelation. The way Team Red behaves right now, it's as if they don't have confidence in the rational correctness of their position.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            I like how Mike thinks he can concern troll us about what Team Red should do, even though he's painted electric blue.

            1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

              Conservatives are only interested in protecting children from being groomed into transitioning by non-familial adults.

              But you already knew this.

              "What conservatives should be doing instead of “pushing back”, along with all their demonizing, exaggerating, mocking, Bible thumping, etc. is calmly giving reasoned arguments against gender ideaology. "

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                That’s just not true. Some conservatives are only interested in protecting children. Other conservatives want laws against transgenderism for adults, too.

                There isn’t one uniform, universal flavor of conservative. There are extremists no matter how one might want to pretend they exist.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Cite?

                2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

                  You can find someone who be,wives almost anything. Can you cite any legislation that limits trannies other than as relates to protecting children, or infringing on other adults, like public bathroom issues.

              2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                Anyway, there wasn’t one thing in my comment saying conservatives are wrong in opposing gender ideology. My comment was 100% about conservative tactics and behavior.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  And gaslighting.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Literally the only team escalating is the Democrats, the people you completely gaslight for.

            It has never been a thing for elective procedures causing permanent harm/medical intervention as being good for kids until the Dems started advocating it.

            1. DesigNate   2 years ago

              Reacting to aggressive assholes is beyond the pale apparently.

          3. Dillinger   2 years ago

            bro if you're still red v. blue you're a dot on the horizon behind everybody.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              What does that even mean?

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

                Dee! You goddamned bitch!

              2. DesigNate   2 years ago

                It means it’s not “both sides”, it’s authoritarians vs everyone else.

          4. NOYB2   2 years ago

            What conservatives should be doing instead of “pushing back”, along with all their demonizing, exaggerating, mocking, Bible thumping, etc. is calmly giving reasoned arguments against gender ideaology.

            Conservatives and moderates just believe that it is wrong to castrate children and that it is wrong to let men into women's locker rooms and make that argument, and they explain why such policies are harmful.

            Other than that, conservatives and moderates don't care what you do with your life, as long as you don't impose it on others and pay for it yourself.

            I don't see any "demonizing, exaggerating, mocking, Bible thumping".

          5. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

            Yes, calm and rational arguments to the left have been so successful in the past. See the overturning of Roe. Did the left accept that as a rational argument to move the abortion decision from the Federal level to the state level? Exactly.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              The calm and rational arguments aren’t for the leftists. They are for the vast majority of people in this country who are not team members, who are moderates and independents.

              The people who are disgusted by both sides in the culture war.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                You continue to lie about yourself.

              2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

                Most people don’t want small children exposed to trannies. And it has nothing to do with politics.

                If this isn’t political for you, then condemn taking little kids to drag shows.

            2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

              You don't speak rationally to an over emotional loon, they can't comprehend anything without the requisite catastrophe emphasis

          6. Cronut   2 years ago

            "Conservatives should argue calmly and rationally against people who deny objective reality."

            Yeah, that'll work.

          7. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            What conservatives should be doing...is calmly giving reasoned arguments against gender ideaology.

            Says the guy who won't look at or acknowledge the facts about this when we present them here.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    What's next in the Trump criminal case.

    More jizzing ourselves?

    1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      I've been working under the assumption that the reason Boehm did the Roundup the last couple of days was because ENB was too dehydrated to work after the Trump indictment was announced.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Dit. Dit. Dit. ENB insulted. Signal sent.

        1. DesigNate   2 years ago

          We don’t talk about ENB!

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

        Well she and her husband did celebrate the other night by hiring a trio of pre op trannies to triple penetrate ENB while her cucked beta male husband pleasured himself as he watched.

        1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          I'm guessing your taste in pr0n is little more... open minded than mine. NTTAWWT.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

            No, my kinks are rather subdued. I’m just guessing what ENB would be into based on the shit she publishes. If. Video of her as I described got leaked, I would stay far the fuck away. Light years.

  8. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1643763894932873221?t=Yk7gEdx_7HgDQ4ucGej1rA&s=19

    Sen. Ron Johnson to Janet Yellen:
    "You are going to drive the debt to $50 Trillion? "

    Yellen: "Yes, but..."

    [Video]

    1. rbike   2 years ago

      I saw this. It would be so much worse without Joe's guiding hand.

  9. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president."

    A guy nobody would have heard of, if he didn't come from a powerful family.

    I wonder if Charles Koch's employees at Reason.com will support him?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Does he support open borders?

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        Well yeah, but not in Martha’s Vineyard.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      He had a great book regarding how awful Fauci is.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        He's a real anti-vaxxer, not just a "hey, maybe I don't need to take rushed out experimental gene therapy to (maybe) reduce my chances of getting a cold" anti-vaxxer.

        Don't know what's wrong with his voice, but he sounds like he's about to cry at all times.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Caused by a bad vaccine. That's why he is so against them.

        2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

          He has spasmodic dysphoria.

          1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            It's spasmodic dysphonia, but your typo is also accurate.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

              It wasn’t a typo, I just read it wrong when I looked it up. My eyes aren’t getting better with age.

          2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            Jeff Pegues on CBS News has the same condition.

    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago (edited)

      He’s not my cup of tea, but if I had a gun to my head and had to lick between him and Biden, it would be definitely be Kennedy. I don’t think he would be a good president, but he wouldn’t wreck the country at record pace like Biden.

      Amd I don’t get the impression that he’s on the take for the ChiComs.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president. The 69-year-old anti-vaccine activist...

    Ha. The AP style guide has an official label for anyone wary of new COVID vaccines.

    To be honest, I don't know if he's across-the-board against vaccination, but I suspect I can't trust any reporting on it.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      He was seriously injured from a bad vaccine.

      He is anti mandates more than anti vaccine, though he does fight against vaccines with thimerosal as that's what caused his problems.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Defunding the police is now…a MAGA thing?

    Federal police? Please let that be a thing now.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Federal police, the most libertarian thing.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        The FBI aren't the police. Your local police department isn't conducting illegal surveillance on the whole country. They can't claim their records are "classified" any time a defense attorney files discovery requests (though certain departments, like NYPD, sure as hell will try it). They don't have the resources to create a conspiracy where 67% of the conspirators are their own agent provocateurs.

        1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          ^This

          The FBI should have been disbanded the second prohibition ended. Or better yet, never created in the first place.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      FBI is good again.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Of course they had zero to do with Alvin Bragg and New York State lawsuits.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Indiana Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb just signed legislation banning gender transition treatments such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for minors.

    The cult is not going to be happy about this.

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      If they can’t smoke, drink, get married, buy a gun, sign a contract, etc. why are they adult enough decide to have irreversible surgery or drug caused physical changes?

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Because transing kids adds fuel to the civil unrest that the power elite want to provoke.

  13. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Has ENB discussed once the states allowing minors to run away from parents to get surgery?

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Emphasize elective surgeries.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Used to be known as genital mutilation .

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    More and more literary classics are being retooled to remove "offensive" language.

    Have they gotten to Orwell yet?

    1. Rich   2 years ago

      Beautiful.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        Doubleplusgood.

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      Imagine a [hand caressing] your face forever.

    3. Unable2Reason   2 years ago

      Why don't they just eliminate any references to slavery? They could do a heap of good relieving the burden of people who were never slaves & people who were never slave owners.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      I seem to remember a Stephen king novel where all the women started menstruating at the same time.

      Only the women? Transphobic mother fucker.

  15. JesseAz   2 years ago

    NYT blames the ridiculousness of Braggs indictment on... Trump. It is his fault Bragg is acting this way.

    https://t.co/G1AsWUpnci

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Wow, that's something else. The guy makes a pretty solid case for how terrible the legal basis for the indictment is, and several reasons why, and then does a 180 and not only blames the victim, but also the DoJ and FBI for not victimizing him harder so Bragg wouldn't have to.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        The biggest hole in the case, it seems, is that Bragg is trying to use state law to convict Trump of federal crimes. His star witness is Cohen, who's own testimony is basically complete hearsay, and even the indictment itself doesn't really lay out what crimes Trump is actually being charged with.

        It's almost like Bragg is just throwing a bunch of shit up because he knows he'll get a conviction in Manhattan regardless, they just needed to indict Trump with SOMETHING to get him in court so they could do so. Even the far left-wing President of Mexico is calling this a political persecution, for fuck's sake.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      And the NYT wonders why they're classified as "propaganda" by Twitter?

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        Did you see that Twitter recently tagged the NPR account with a 'state affiliated media' flag? They usually use those for Chinese or Russian news agencies.

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/04/05/twitter-adds-state-affiliated-media-label-to-npr-account-putting-it-on-par-with-russia-today/?sh=a2b7754635c2

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Well, if the shoe fits...

        2. Ronbback   2 years ago

          twitter should have called NPR the deep state affiliated. let the lefts ears would burn with nashing of teeth all redfaced with anger. it is glorious they are so pissed how dare he even suggest such a thing

        3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          Twitter recently tagged the NPR account with a ‘state affiliated media’ flag

          Nice.

    3. damikesc   2 years ago

      "Did you see what she was wearing?" NYT

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Michigan is now coding anti-police bias incidents as "hate crimes."

    The po-po have found the power in victimhood.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Everything is so terrible and unfair.

  17. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

    Defunding the police is now…a MAGA thing? Following his criminal indictment in New York City, Trump called on congressional Republicans to "defund the DOJ and FBI until they come to their senses."

    I'm never quite sure if you're a liar or just too retarded to understand the difference. Probably a little of both

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      DNC gestapo are exactly the same as your local beat cop.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago (edited)

        True Libertarians (TM) are unconcerned about the Justice Department going after nonviolent protesters (they were icky pro-lifers, after all), parents who speak out at schoolboard meetings (including throwing a guy in jail for speaking out when the schoolboard covered up hits daughter’s rape), Catholic churches (pro-lifers again, eeew!), entrap citizens in goverment-orchestrated kidnapping plots, or throwing internet meme-ers in jail (IT WAS HER TURN!).

        Those are fascist MAGA concerns.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

          True libertarians (Republicans) excuse everything Republicans do because some Democrat did it first and did it worse.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Sad.

          2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

            Go home, you're drunk

          3. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Amazing watching you be completely ignorant and dishonest about everything.

            We get it. Youre a neocon. You believe in tepid resistance against the over reaching left. It is why you get upset at Fuck Joe Biden or anyone who pushes back against the left.

            Youre literally a useless person.

          4. Minadin   2 years ago

            When Democrats cry foul it's because they think the Republicans stole their playbook.

            What you are going to be seeing with the post-Trump conservatives and Republicans is the inevitable backlash from a few decades of the left teaching its next generation of leaders and activists and voters that it's perfectly ok for THEM to achieve their political goals by any means necessary.

            Eventually you are going to reach the point where the other side just isn't going to sit back and take the abuse anymore.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              Team Red, pointing their fingers at Team Blue: “It’s all them! They make us do these things! We have no choice but to be awful people because they are awful people!”

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                It's not Red and Blue as much as you think it is. It's authoritarians and anti-authoritarians, and fools like yourself who refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                I mean there is an example of team blue, from the NYT, literally claiming that retard. No comment from you about it. Hmm.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Libertarians for federal weaponization.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      Has she also missed conservative disdain for the FBI et al since 2016?

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        But with a history of cross dressing, the FBI is cool.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

          And they also went after white supremascists. Like MLK and his nauseatingly racist view that a person should be judged by their character and not the color of their skin.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        2016? Their own narrative is that everyone opposed to the FBI from the right is, sine que non, a deplorable domestic terrorist since Aug. '92.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          Yeah, the Ruby Ridge incident was the first real "WTF?" moment for me.

  18. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Wisconsin shows the political cognitive dissonance of dem voters. While voters elected a liberal to the Supreme Court by small margins, they voted for conservative supported bills in much larger margin.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/conservatives-pick-up-landslide-policy-victories-wisconsin-election-despite-supreme-court-loss-liberals

    1. LaurieDelrosario   2 years ago (edited)

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  19. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A leading group of medical experts says the term 'excited delirium' should not be listed as a cause of death...

    Pencil in "COVID" instead. We're still doing that, right?

  20. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Globetrotting, carbon-wasting green elites.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/06/globetrotting-green-elites-are-a-threat-to-democracy/

    The authoritarian impulse of eco-hysteria is becoming clearer by the day. This is why they’re so keen to replace that flat, tired phrase ‘climate change’ with the more shrill ‘climate emergency’. Because in an emergency, special powers are often required to ensure that the greater good of existential security is taking precedence over the lesser good of people’s freedom and desires. Ardern knows the game: she declared a ‘climate emergency’ in New Zealand in December 2020.

    There’s one more quality: hypocrisy. We need ‘waste-free living’, says William’s Earthshot crusade. A bit rich coming from a literal future king whose family’s air miles in recent years would be enough to get them to the Moon and back and then complete three loops of the Earth’s equator. John Kerry has his own private jet and once flew it to Martha’s Vineyard for Obama’s 60th birthday bash. And Ardern once took a flight that cost NZ taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars because she wanted to ‘minimise time away from her infant daughter’. These are the people telling the rest of us to drive less, fly less, farm less, eat less meat, use less coal, use less gas and generally be less of a pest to poor Mother Earth. The gall. Peasants’ revolt, anyone?

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      Emergency powers beget emergencies.

  21. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

    Is telling someone to "die" on Facebook protected by the First Amendment?

    Yes. Next question, please.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A Georgia mom arrested and jailed for letting her 14-year-old daughter babysit her younger siblings has, after three years, "prevailed in her legal ordeal," writes Lenore Skenazy.

    It's a sad day when the soccer mom vote is no longer feared by district attorneys.

  23. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    Trump dead-enders are the stupidest people on the planet, Exhibit #130,000.

    The formula is simple: if you stand by Trump, his agenda, and most importantly, the American people, you win. If you reject MAGA, you lose. How people still haven’t figured this out nearly a decade after Trump descended the escalator boggles the mind.

    See, the most impressive victories are the ones where you don't actually attain the office you ran for. Trump 2020. Lake 2022. THESE are winners, people!

    So let's make 2024 all about how Trump is awesome and 2020 was rigged! That's what swing voters want to hear during a lackluster economy!

    #TrumpLake2024

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Kemp actually showed the best way to handle things when he basically said, "I understand that Trump's mad at me, but I'm not mad at him. Besides, Stacey Abrams is absolute shit and putting her in charge would be a disaster."

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Trump 2020. Lake 2022. THESE are winners, people!"

      Sandra, I like DeSantis too, but there's no way in hell those two lost in the way that's being implied. The circumstantial evidence for massive fraud in both cases is enourmous.

      And unless we recognize that and something is done about mail-in/drop box voting, DeSantis will lose in exactly the same way.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Mail-in and drop box voting needs to be banned as it is in every other comparable country to the US. Mail-in voting, as it is done in my state, Illinois, is far too prone to fraud. Did you realize that one must accept mail-in ballots without a postmark for up to two weeks in Illinois? As for drop box, voting, it is prone to large, anonymous dumps of ballots with no knowledge of from whence these ballots came. If one can just dump 20, 30, 40 ballots in a drop box at once, who is to say these aren't fraudulent?

        1. MachineGunBodine   2 years ago

          In 2024, in my county, a suburb of Philly, we had 49 drop-boxes, more than half of the total for the entire state.

          On Election Day, country employees, not election officials, drove around to pick up the ballots from the boxes.

          Instead of being dropped off at the central counting center, the ballots took a joy ride to a strange business address in the county where they remained for 5-6 hours. After that, the ballots hopped into a van and went to the central counting place.

      2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        Yep. DeSantis could absolutely lose to Biden. Unless the economy gets worse, I'd even call Biden the favorite in that matchup.

        The point is that Republican voters are self-sabotaging idiots if they keep nominating toxic candidates that Dems want them to nominate. We saw how that worked in 2022. And it's clear Dems want Trump to be the nominee in 2024.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          You keep missing the issues with “election fortifications.” Not sure why you are so resistant to that discussion.

          Florida made changes to disallow that fortification, DeSantis won easily. Other states that allowed the 2020 changes to continue saw Dems win easily, even when predicted to lose by 5-6%.

          Signature Verification is not verification based on any story we see. It is a joke. There is no verification of mail in ballots anymore.

          Some states, like Arizona, even made it HARDER to vote in person on election day. So did Pennsylvania. With numerous voting issues that denied actual votes from citizens. These are admitted and acknowledged issues.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          The point is that Republican toxic and non-toxic candidates are irrelevant until the ease of electoral fraud is fixed.

        3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          And it’s clear Dems want Trump to be the nominee in 2024.

          ^This. The Dems desperately wanted him him as the candidate in 2016. They cross-registered in droves to vote for him. The reason they went full batshit crazy after the election was because they never had an inkling that people hated Clinton enough to vote for a clown. Now they desperately want him in 2024 to again justify their win at any cost mentality.

          The solipsistic fools like Sarc and Jeffy who advocate for collectivism and outright Marxism to the extent it validates their neuroses will always need a Trump to vent their spleen upon.

        4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

          “Unless the economy gets worse…”

          Laying the groundwork for a mea culpa?

      3. Nardz   2 years ago

        Looking at those results and believing they're legitimate is the intellectual equivalent of chopping your dick off and believing you're a woman.

    3. damikesc   2 years ago

      In the case of Lake, the case is still in court and there were major shenanigans going on in Maricopa.

  24. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    #Resistance is the real threat to democracy.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/05/why-the-resistance-is-still-so-much-worse-than-trump/

    Those still saying this is all simply justice being done are either lying or delusional. Former presidents should not be above the law, but nor should they be below it – subject to years-long legal investigations aimed at finding something, anything, to get them with. You don’t need to be pro-Trump – we at spiked certainly aren’t – to see that this is thoroughly political. Trump’s many years of wheeler-dealing may have given his opponents plenty of material – there are also other, potentially more serious investigations he is facing. But that’s no excuse to weaponise the law against him for nakedly political gain, which is precisely what is going on here. As Sean Collins put it on spiked last week: ‘Would [Alvin Bragg] have brought the same case, seven years after the fact, against another individual? If you believe that, there is a bridge in New York that I’d like to sell you.’

    Ever since Trump’s shock election victory, Democrats seem to have decided that they must destroy democracy in order to save it. From the Russiagate circus, which tried and failed to delegitimise the 2016 election result, to the ‘January 6’ hearings, which tried and failed to present that dumb Trumpist riot as an ‘insurrection’, to this week’s NY indictment, Democrats have tried to do with law and process what they failed, in 2016, to do at the ballot box. All the while, they have sowed distrust in the democratic process – 72 per cent of Democratic voters still believe in the debunked conspiracy theory that Russia swung 2016 for Trump. And they have politicised what should be non-partisan institutions.

    Of course, Trump hardly has a leg to stand on when it comes to liberal and democratic principles. After ‘Lock her up!’ came ‘Stop the steal!’, and his cack-handed, conspiracy-theory-fuelled attempt to overturn the 2020 election result. But if the past seven years have shown us anything, it is that Trump’s pantomime, inept authoritarianism is simply no match for the Democrats’ determined, ‘acceptable’ authoritarianism. Trump might have said a lot of outrageous and illiberal things, but the Democrats have shown him how it is done – along with their allies in the corporate media, Big Tech and the security state. The Resistance is infinitely worse than the thing it is resisting. And it always has been.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      … – there are also other, potentially more serious investigations he is facing…

      They couldn’t resist throwing that in, something that could apply to anyone.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Is telling someone to "die" on Facebook protected by the First Amendment?

    People do know you they don't actually have to do it just because it's on Facebook, right?

  26. Rich   2 years ago

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.

    'Make America Camelot Again!'

  27. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    This article really could have used another pass just to correct the times ENB wrote "bills" when she meant "pills."

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      Editing is beneath ENB

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago (edited)

        ELIZABETH NOLAN BROWN is a senior editor at Reason.

        As in, her editing is experiencing a senior moment.

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      Tell me about it. I totally embarrassed myself above because I figured the same typo repeated three times must not have been a typo.

  28. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Why is NIST making any speech or gender codes!?! Enough of this shit already!

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_ec382ad8-d3f1-11ed-99e0-ffca7120e7e9.html

    The National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal and science technology office, has made race and gender speech codes for its scientists a top priority.

    The guidance, for example, tells federal employees not to use the words "blacklist" or "whitelist" because of the racial connotations and also cautions against "using terms that assign a gender to inanimate objects, such as male/female connectors."

    1. Rich   2 years ago

      Avoid ... using terms that assign a gender to inanimate objects, such as male/female connectors.

      I'll bite. What are the PC terms for 'male/female connectors'? Anyway, aren't male/female *sex* adjectives and therefore exempt from the *gender* 'problem'?

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        I’ll bite. What are the PC terms for ‘male/female connectors’?

        Penis/Vagina connectors.

      2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        Innies and Outties.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        "Ladydick" and "mangina" connectors?

      4. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        What are the PC terms for ‘male/female connectors’?

        Toxic/ Stunning and Brave connectors?

        Rapist/ Permanent Victim connectors?

  29. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The White house print out on gender affirming care includes bottom surgery for minors. Comment Mike?

    https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1509572326995771396

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      "Not happening. Also, it's a good thing. Also, shut up bigot!"

      Mike, take the day off. I got this covered

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      My favorite is puberty blockers are "partially reversible". Leave it to idiots that don't understand binary to have this little gem in there

    3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      So when libsoftiktok reposts this, do you think AOC will slander her again, saying she 'lied' about it?

      Hate those liars, reposting a copy/paste of what the cult posts. How dare they!

    4. Minadin   2 years ago

      "It's not happening, and we need to expand this wing of the hospital to cover the increased demand for it not happening."

  30. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The Backlog of Orders Index registered 43.9 percent, 1.2 percentage points lower than the February reading of 45.1 percent. The Employment Index continued in contraction territory, registering 46.9 percent, down 2.2 percentage points from February’s reading of 49.1 percent. The Supplier Deliveries Index figure of 44.8 percent is 0.4 percentage point lower than the 45.2 percent recorded in February; this is the index’s lowest reading since March 2009 (43.2 percent).

    https://www.ismworld.org/supply-management-news-and-reports/reports/ism-report-on-business/pmi/march/

    Comment shrike?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Rig count up!

  31. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    The law makes it illegal to help someone under age 18 obtain an abortion "by recruiting, harboring, or transporting the pregnant minor within this state" without a parent or guardian's permission, with violations punishable by two to five years in prison.

    No issues with this even slightly. Minors who have accidentally gotten pregnant are clearly not making good life choices, and people trying to help them hide this from their parents are enabling them. This should not be encouraged.

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

      Then you have to realize that most often it will be the abuser of the teen trying to cover up his crime by kidnapping her and taking her out of state to dispose of the evidence

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        In the land where premarital sex is criminal by a death sentence?

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      Decent odds that the person who raped the minor would be the one forcing them to get an abortion.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        Parental rights and child-trafficking concerns are insignificant in the face of abortion, the most important of all rights

      2. TJJ2000   2 years ago (edited)

        Pretty sure kidnapping has it’s own laws.

        But hey; just to make a point lets pretend every day after pill is being “forced” against someone’s own will…. Oh that right; The [WE] Power-mad mobsters will... Because YOU don't exist in [OUR] [WE] mob of gangsters. /s

    3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      Minors who have accidentally gotten pregnant are clearly not making good life choices

      A bunch of Ida-ho's, amirite?

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        LOL +10000000.... Ida-ho's don't deserve Individual Liberty! /s

      2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Frequently it's not accidental. For an unmarried, indigent young woman, a baby is literally a meal ticket.

    4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      Clearly, it is the role of the state to dictate what constitutes "good life choices" and coerce citizens to follow those good life choices.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        This would be a good retort if it wasn't responding to a strawman.

        I don't care what grown adults do with their lives, even if the abortion question is hazy when it comes to where the rights of fetus first vest. A pregnant minor who wants an abortion means they're having unprotected sex and not planning for the consequences of that, which is a health issue a medical provider needs to inform the parents about. Let the kids reach 18 and their lifestyle choices are all their own.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          According to the article Idaho has already flushed out all the "adults" doing with their lives in the State of Idaho. But since their OWN dismissal of Roe v Wade to State-Tyranny was ruled now they have to prosecute their own citizens for exiting the State-Tyrannical government.

      2. Nobartium   2 years ago

        I'll pencil you down as "age of consent laws are anti-libertarian and need to be repealed".

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          He isn't Jeffy the Pedo for nothing. Right up there with Shrike and Tony.

        2. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          Most are. That's no secret. At what age does a person start taking responsibility for themselves instead of having the State OWN them? 14,16,18,21,25 the Power-Obsessed just keep moving up the age all the time.

        3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          As I understand him, he's in favor only of parents fucking their own kids.

      3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Clearly, it is the role of the state to prosecute people who intentionally harm children, and there is no exception for one's own children.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago (edited)

          Yeah; Call in the State Dept my parents spanked me!!!!/s
          Good grief are we really towing that line again?

    5. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      And, damnit, that teenage girl should pay for her bad teenage judgement by having to become a teen mother! Even if we’re at the stage where the “baby” is just a clump of cells!

      I even saw one commenter use the term, slut, above. If only the Idaho legislature could have come up with SLUT Act as an acronym for the bill it would have been perfect!

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Adoption is not an option?

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          The SLUT Act will fix that.

          Sluts won't be allowed to 'abort' their motherly duties. Not wanting to take care of one's own child!!! How despicable!!! OMG! Call in MORE GUNS!!! Make her be a mother.... FORCE her..... /s

      2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        Or, bear with me, getting her parents to sign off on her early-term abortion. Because she can still decide whether it’s an easier life choice to let her parents know she’s having unprotected sex, or she can just have a baby. Tough call, I suppose.

        Such a shame that acts have consequences. When there’s potential a human life involved, she needs to be forced to face those consequences.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago (edited)

          Or, bear with me, NOT having unprotected sex is a violation of “potential” human life……

          There FTFY.
          The puritan idiocy never stops.
          What a wonderful reply to my comment above..

          !!!-forced-!!! 'her' to face those (i.e. [OUR] dictated) consequences /s

  32. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Illinois pisses on 2A.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_b0927e86-d3ef-11ed-a001-eb2ce9d5caaf.html

    Starting April 10, gun owners in Illinois will be violating state law if they possess certain semi-automatic firearms and magazines in public places.

    Pritzker enacted the Protect Illinois Communities Act Jan. 10, prohibiting all future sales except to some in certain law enforcement roles. While already owned firearms and magazines were grandfathered, the law says 90 days after enactment, gun owners must follow certain protocols or face criminal penalties.

    Another phase of the gun and magazine ban is the registry.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      At a certain point, there needs to be discipline for states repeatedly and intentionally violating Constitutional rights.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Don't hold your breath.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      The magazine for my dad's 22-10 LR holds 15 rounds.

      So if I just walk around with the magazine, it's a violation?

  33. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Judge issues gag order on hunters baby momma to not discuss hunters finances from child support case.

    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/04/04/judge-orders-hunter-bidens-ex-to-remain-silent-on-his-finances-n1684152

  34. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

    ENB is a psycho retarded cunt.

    As has been pointed out many, many times, even in the last week.
    Defund the police is a push to get rid of local police and replace it with a national party approved polices, like the doj, kgb, or gestapo.
    Stop trying to be cute you retarded cunt.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      ^this.

      Its the lamest attempt at a whataboutism/gotcha that doesn't pass the most superficial scrutiny.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Sarc fell for it.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Wouldn't be Sarc if he didn't.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Defund the police is a push to get rid of local police and replace it with a national party approved polices, like the doj, kgb, or gestapo.

      Nothing screams "Libertarian" like tacit support for brown coats.

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        +10000000 Exactly.

  35. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Trump and Biden.

    https://nypost.com/2023/04/05/hunter-biden-flashes-cocky-smile-as-da-goes-after-trump-in-legal-double-standard/

    The week that Donald Trump was arrested in New York, less than a mile away from the courthouse, Hunter Biden was all smiles as he checked in on his latest art exhibition in Soho, at the George Berges Gallery, where his paintings reportedly sell for as much as $500,000 apiece to persons unknown.

    If ever you wanted proof of a dual system of justice, merry, privileged Hunter is its ultimate embodiment.

    When the president was asked by a reporter Tuesday if Trump’s indictment is “politically divisive,” his face broke into a sly grin and then he quietly chuckled to himself, seeming to bite his lip to contain his glee.

    Biden foreshadowed this move the day after the midterms last November.

    When asked about Trump running for president again, he said he would make sure he never takes power again.

    “We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run, making sure he — under legitimate efforts of our Constitution — does not become the next president again.”

    The next month, one of the top-ranking left-wing ideologues in Biden’s Department of Justice, Matthew Colangelo, was sent to Bragg’s office to run the Trump case.

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

      Just got to stop that corrupt Fascist Trump by any means necessary to preserve our Democracy

  36. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    Defunding the police is now…a MAGA thing? Following his criminal indictment in New York City, Trump called on congressional Republicans to "defund the DOJ and FBI until they come to their senses."

    What will the next big FBI sting be?
    A. Get some dumb rednecks to agree to kidnap Newsome.
    B. Get some dumb rednecks to agree to kidnap Bragg.
    C. Get some dumb muslim kid to agree to blow something up.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      More like get FBI to agree to kidnap them and have some rednecks say wouldn't that be funny.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        *handcuffs click*

        "You have the right to remain silent"

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      My guess is B. That's the big news story right now, plus as a bonus they can probably claim that Trump incited them with his "inflammatory rhetoric" or some shit.

  37. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Better than Biden?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rfk-jr-files-challenge-biden-2024-democratic-nomination

    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr on Wednesday filed a statement of candidacy with the Federal Election Commission, positioning him to oppose President Biden for the 2024 Democratic nomination.

    Though he hasn't formally announced his candidacy, the 69-year-old Kennedy's previous messaging about a possible run gave some insight into his potential themes:

    "My top priority [would] be to end the corrupt merger between state and corporate power that has ruined our economy, shattered the middle class, polluted our landscapes and waters, poisoned our children, and robbed us of our values and freedoms."

    The son of Robert Kennedy and nephew of JFK is an outspoken critic of the Neocon foreign policy agenda. On Monday, Kennedy used Twitter to blast policies that saw the US government spend "trillions bombing roads, ports, bridges, and airports [while] China spent the equivalent building the same across the developing world."

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Most of what I've seen from him I like, and the establishment machine seems to hate him for all the right reasons.

      Anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy Jr is challenging Biden for the Democratic nomination despite having negligible support

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        It might be worth voting in the Democratic primary just to vote for him over Biden. In my state, we can ask for the ballot (D, R, Non-Partisan) when we get to the election judge. You do not need to be a registered Democrat or Republican to ask for a Democratic or Republican ballot in a primary.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          In my state they technically can challenge you for that but it never happens.

  38. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    "Defunding the police is now…a MAGA thing? ...called on congressional Republicans to "defund the DOJ and FBI..."

    Dont play stupid. There is a difference between supporting local law enforcement and stopping violent crime, and supporting a bloated, power hungry, anti-freedom FBI that targets political rivals of whatever party they find more favorable. Governance and policing at the local level rather than federal level is very libertarian.

    The opposite approach: giving the alphabet orgs free reign, while cutting local police forces, and refusing to prosecute violent crime, burglary, and vandalism is what BLM and democrats want. Also, coincidentally, what the Bolsheviks did.

    Please stop acting like you dont know the difference here. The left falls on the side of censorship, language policing, big pharma, big tech, rainbow-capitalism corpos, and spook agencies targeting citizens. The opposite side of libertarianism. You cant be a libertarian and side with them

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      When Trump says "defund the police" it's different? Ok. That sums it all up.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        Well, he didn't say that. You playing retarded like ENB too?

        The police arent the FBI

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          The FBI are law enforcement. What's another word for law enforcement? No, that's not it. Nope. The fuck, are you intentionally obtuse? Not that either. Police you knucklehead! Fuck!

          1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

            "Libertarians for simping for federal orgs that target private citizens and political rivals"

            Cool new club you have sarc

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Riiiight. Because using the word "police" to describe law enforcement equals supporting everything they do.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Remember how you applauded Capitol Police for murder? Good times. Good times.

                If you dont understand the issues with federalization of all institutions, youre not a libertarian. Full stop.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Youre literally too stupid and dishonest to understand arguments.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

          Could just be drunk. It is after 10 am on the east coast.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            That's guaranteed at any point on the sundial.

      3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

        Someone this disingenuous - why even respond to zhim?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          This.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          I think sarc is building up a history to be able to join the special Olympics so he can finally win at something in life.

    2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      It is an example of superficial, reflexive, "gotcha" punditry. It is lazy and unprofessional.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        Okay, now apply that standard to everyone here who lazily claimed that "defund the police" meant some insane Mad Max-type anarchist hellscape.

        You want nuance and complexity when applied to Team Red positions, but you have no problems endorsing broad-brush generalizations when it comes to Team Blue positions.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          Not a lefty.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        "Defund the police" from Team Blue means: Let's have a conversation about the proper role of police in society particularly when it comes to how the use of force is applied.

        "Defund the police" from Team Red means: The police are targeting my tribe and I don't like that.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

          The left literally said defund the police across the nation.

          Trump, and by association all MAGAs as they are now affectionately known, said specifically defund the DOJ and FBI until they come to their senses.

          Those two statement are not the same. Conflating them is dishonest and disingenuous.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            dishonest and disingenuous

            That sums up Jeffy pretty well.

        2. Inquisitive Squirrel   2 years ago

          Yet, that's not what it meant. I love the gaslighting you on the left have to do to cover for taking up such an unserious and intellectually devoid position.

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        It was a cheap shot. It was snark. All of which has been a part of the Reason staff’s culture forever.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Also, coincidentally, what the Bolsheviks did.

      Minor nitpick: it's not a coincidence. At all.

  39. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Storming the BlackRock Bastile.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/french-pension-protests-ignite-again-after-union-talks-prime-minster-fail

    We noted early that pension protestors in France were gathered outside of BlackRock's Paris headquarters. The protestors have now stormed the building.

    With pictures.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      As gratifying as it looks, I wish they'd hit their server farm instead.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Been watching all of this on Twitter as I can't seem to get news or images of it anywhere else. From the descriptions, these protests are fairly massive, and I've seen the term "French Revolution 2.0" being bandied about.

      2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        In the next hot war, internet hardware will be targeted.

  40. Jefferson's Ghost   2 years ago

    "Two doctors and a Planned Parenthood affiliate are suing Idaho Attorney General Raúl Labrador after the Gem State's top cop stated that it's illegal for doctors to refer residents to out-of-state abortion providers."

    Looks like Idaho has gone full retard.

    1. Ronbback   2 years ago

      its already illegal to talk about alternatives to covid treatments but hey my abortions got to have free will to kill

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        So, you approve of censoring medical information as long as it’s medical information you don’t like?

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Idaho got rid of a nutcase, far right Lt. Governor this year. And to make up for it, elected a self-serving, highly partisan, right-wing Attorney General.

  41. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Fuck around and possibly lose your seat.

    https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/06/tennessee-expulsion-amid-protests-house-gop-expel-lawmakers/70085057007/

    The state House is expected to take up resolutions to expel three Democratic lawmakers over their actions interrupting a floor session and using a bullhorn to lead chants for gun control.

    Of course, no one is mentioning the trans aspect of all this.

    House leadership likened the representatives' behavior to an "insurrection," a characterization House Democrats decried last week.

    Insurrection about described the scene best.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "Of course, no one is mentioning the trans aspect of all this."

      Very weird right? Almost like Reason editors have a gag order on any criticism of the tranny cult?

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        They don’t. For example, there have been several times the staff has criticized the “tranny cult” on the Reason Roundtable podcast.

        But, hey, by all means keep pushing your narrative based, literally, on nothing.

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          They could refute it by putting out an article with some rational, level-headed criticism.

          The only mentions we get are people like Shackford and ENB talking about the 'dont say gay' bill, and saying people are just being mean to the trannies who just want muh civil rights!

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            This blog post, which you apparently missed, should make you happy:

            https://reason.com/2023/02/16/980-new-york-times-contributors-want-to-sacrifice-free-inquiry-to-ideology/

            1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              There are about 5-6 major avenues intersecting (if I can steal a concept from retarded lefty academics) right where the Nashville shooting happened, especially ones that make it unique, and hit many current culture war issues that would be covered if it didnt reflect so poorly on the left.

              Ill keep my counter going until they grow a set and address it (I understand, they dont care 🙂 )

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                OK, what, precisely, do you want Reason to say?

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Still no manifesto......

  42. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    "Indiana Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb just signed legislation banning gender transition treatments such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for minors."

    Hey, I think their are more funerals going on in Nashville today for the nice folks that got gunned down by that testosterone doping, mentally ill tranny who shot up a bunch of Christians.

    And word on if that gets covered?

    Tranny simping: Day 11

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      “Indiana Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb just signed legislation banning gender transition treatments such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for minors.”

      Based and No HRT-pilled.

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Cite on the “testosterone doping”?

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Cite on ANYTHING you say, Liarson?

  43. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    What's the note say?

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/nashville-killer-audrey-hale-slept-with-journals-on-school-shootings-under-bed-court-docs-reveal

    Nashville Christian school killer Audrey Hale, a transgender artist who gunned down three 9-year-olds and three adults last week, kept journals on other school shootings under her bed – which were seized along with a trove of documents and electronic devices, court filings reveal.

    The 28-year-old apparently left behind a suicide note on a desk under one of several laptops police recovered, near a list of passwords. They also found two "memoirs," a 12-gauge Mossberg 590 and a 20-gauge Winchester Model 1200. One of them had been sawed off, police said previously.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Nashville Christian school killer Audrey Hale, a transgender artist who gunned down three 9-year-olds and three adults last week, kept journals on other school shootings under her bed – which were seized along with a trove of documents and electronic devices, court filings reveal.

      There's a really weird online subcult among certain young nutbag women that is absolutely obsessed with school shootings. One of them even went out to Colorado and bought a shotgun because she wanted to recreate Columbine on its 20th anniversary, before she thankfully went up into the foothills and used it to blow her own empty head off instead.

      Not a surprise this pooner was part of that.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      They also found two “memoirs,”

      Wow. *Two* autobiographical(?) memoirs. One female and one male? Or one, utterly banal account of "Memoirs of a self-loathing, self-absorbed, egotistical, unappreciated, psychopath" and one similarly gauche, but also redundant, account of "How I became a trans artist"?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Or one, utterly banal account of “Memoirs of a self-loathing, self-absorbed, egotistical, unappreciated, psychopath” and one similarly gauche, but also redundant, account of “How I became a trans artist”?

        The dumbest part of this current social trend are these freaks talking about how they've "discovered their authentic selves," yet are constantly changing their pronouns and identity. There was a feature on the munchie-by-proxy victim that was on the cover of a National Geographic as a trans representative, calling himself a True and Honest Woman. Several years later, he now says he's non-binary.

        Hope Mommy Dearest hasn't had his pecker cut off yet.

      2. Ronbback   2 years ago

        one by her/him/it and one by the FBI?

        also note they are now calling her an artist? why does that make it different, some how less intimidating ? what the hell was the shooting an art project gone bad now this is stupid how they are phrasing this

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          I just assumed "artist" to be the OG "herpetologist handshake".

        2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          also note they are now calling her an artist?

          "ArTiStS cAn'T bE BaD pEoPlE!!11!111!!!!!"

          I suspect that's probably about as deep as their "thinking" - and I use that term very loosely - goes.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Obviously they don't know artists very well. I seem to recall a certain artist from Austria who led Europe right back into a major war and killed a bunch of people he didn't like before committing suicide in a bunker.

            1. mad.casual   2 years ago

              You know who else was Literally "An Artist"?

        3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Actually, the shooting literally had a whole creepy art project associated with it.

          (Not implying in any way that her being an artist excuses anything.)

        4. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          "Artist" is code for "unemployed".

    3. Ronbback   2 years ago

      to bad the FBI hadn't seen her earlier with that sawed off shot gun they surely would have shot her for that alone, tranny or not

  44. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Peace in the Middle East...
    brokered by Beijing.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/06/china/saudi-arabia-iran-china-beijing-diplomatic-relations-intl-hnk/index.html

    Saudi Arabia’s and Iran’s Foreign Ministers met in Beijing on Thursday to discuss key details in the resumption of their relations following a landmark agreement mediated by China last month.

    In the highest-level meeting between the two sides in more than seven years, Iran’s Hossein Amir-Abdollahian and Saudi Arabia’s Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud signed an agreement to reopen embassies and consulates in their mutual countries, according to Iran’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Yeah, but an hour later they will be enemies again.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        At least they get a free egg roll and fortune cookie.

        1. Ska   2 years ago

          But only if the meeting was held at lunch.

  45. Cronut   2 years ago

    ENB is tiresome. "Abortion rights" should never include transporting other people's children across state lines without parental knowledge or consent. That's called kidnapping, and in any other context, it's illegal. Why should it be legal for abortion and genital mutilation?

    1. Mazakon   2 years ago

      Reason writers tend to be very utopian and maximalist. I can't recall the last time I saw one mention consequences, limitations or tradeoffs of their beliefs, or even a sincere understanding of their opponents'.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Reason writers are progressive leftists. It's the only explanation for them not supporting Republicans.

        1. Cronut   2 years ago

          This has nothing to do with supporting republicans.

          No normal human being thinks it's fine to take someone else's kid to go get a medical procedure without their parents' knowledge or consent, let alone take them to another state to do it.

          Progressive leftists, who are NOT normal people, think it is not only fine, but righteous and good, which is a fucked up position.

          I really don't know how this is difficult for you.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            To be fair, a judge took his kid and gave her to his more sane ex wife. So he is bitter about parental rights.

          2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            "I really don’t know how this is difficult for you."

            It's not. But Sarc's got this one little troll he erroneously thinks is super clever, and so he tries to shoehorn it into every possible conversation.

          3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Progressive leftists, who are NOT normal people....

            They are normal people. You are normal people. I am normal people.

        2. Mazakon   2 years ago

          I didn't say anything regarding Democrats or Republicans. However, because it's mostly social issues Reason tackles, this comes up a lot more regarding Republicans than Democrats.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            The shaky alliance between libertarians and conservatives had been based upon support for economic liberty. Conservatives have abandoned classical liberalism as of late, meaning that the basis for the alliance no longer exists. Conservatives claim libertarians have drifted left. That's not true. Rather the right has drifted authoritarian.

            1. Cronut   2 years ago

              The right has not drifted authoritarian. They have always been anti-abortion. Red states have been passing bills to limit or outlaw abortion for decades, they just always got struck down because of Roe. Anti-abortion legislation is nothing new.

              The left, however, has gone from "safe, legal, and rare," to "SHOUT YOUR ABORTION," "Abortion is an act of love," and taking abortion pills on the steps of the Supreme Court. And that's just regarding abortion. They've also gone from, "Gays should have the same civil rights as everyone else," to "Drag queens in the classroom," and "permanently sterilizing healthy children before they are able to comprehend or consent is LIFE SAVING HEALTH CARE."

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                “They have always been anti-abortion.”

                Not so. It only dates back to the rise of the Christian right.

                Conservatism in, say, the 1960s was quite different than present-day conservatism.

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                  the rise of the Christian right.

                  LOL! You are consistently the dumbest of Sarc's "true libertarians". The Christian right didn't rise, it just began to stand out as the Democrats shifted away. Al Gore and Joe Biden were conservative Christians in the 80's.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Somewhere, Sarc, you missed where most of the left took the authoritarian boat quite some time ago. Most conservatives I know are far, far less authoritarian than the progressives I know. Those on the left that went more libertarian are usually derided as "fascists" and "MAGA" by the authoritarian progressives. Just ask Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, Barri Weiss, and others.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        OMG, it couldn’t be more 180 degrees from what you just claimed. Especially when it comes to anti-abortion commenters here; we are thick with anti-abortion absolutists.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago (edited)

          So it’s not mainstream and popular , then is it?

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      I do not get why Reason editors support state assistance with minors getting abortions because parents might not be sufficiently supportive of it...but they seem to have few problems with rapists transporting their victims to get abortions.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      It is not kidnapping to simply give information about abortion services that exist in other states. And it is certainly not kidnapping to provide information about abortion pills.

      Several commenters today: Law covers scenarios T, U, V, W, X, Y and Z. I’ll argue how nobody could possibly object to the law by only talkiny about T, and ignoring U - Z.

    4. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      WRONG. Kidnapping is taking someone against THEIR will!! You've got a heck of case to make and a Power-mad obsessed one at that to claim every ride given to a kid without parental consent is kidnapping. And frankly it's just a perfect path-paving to a police state.

  46. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    A real motherfucking snake on a real motherfucking plane.

    https://www.npr.org/2023/04/05/1168206000/snake-on-a-plane-cobra-cockpit-south-africa

    Of all the things to go wrong midair in the cockpit of a plane, finding a venomous snake under the pilot's seat must surely be one of the worst scenarios.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      … finding a venomous snake under the pilot’s seat must surely be one of the worst scenarios.

      Or how about a totally insane Middle East nutcase in the pilot seat heading towards a building?

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        I think we can all agree that a man cheating on his wife and paying his mistress/porn star girlfriend/whore to keep her mouth shut is the most incredulous thing about all of this.

  47. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    'Twitter labels NPR's account as 'state-affiliated media,' which is untrue'

    https://www.npr.org/2023/04/05/1168158549/twitter-npr-state-affiliated-media

    LOLs. Ya, sure NPR. We totally believe you are calling balls/strikes and not state propaganda. Your empty denial, after years of easily observable state propaganda, definitely refutes it!

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

      It’s only inaccurate in the sense that NPR is mostly a media bullhorn for the Democratic party, which happens to run most of the state right now. To the extent they act like actual state media is when they uncritically bring on glowies to push glowie narratives.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        Ya you're right. They are DNC/FBI/CIA affiliated. They stop being state news when an R picks up a win.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Elon is so great. He's the best billionaire

  48. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Levi’s is using AI to generate ‘diverse’ models. Here’s why that’s a fashion fail"
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/justinphillips/article/levi-diversity-artificial-intelligence-17866765.php

    TL;DR
    Because they found a short, black, old model who will have to figure out how to make a living other than the sacred calling of wearing clothes she doesn't own in front of a camera.

  49. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Idiot leftists, if they don’t get 100 million killed in WWIII they will at least wreck the economy. Putin! Putin! No, y’all lost a very winnable race in 2016 due to your own arrogance and stupidity.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/04/05/tucker-carlson-outlines-the-ramification-of-trillions-in-u-s-treasury-bonds-no-longer-needed-as-global-securities/

    For his opening monologue and first interview tonight, Fox News host Tucker Carlson outlined the ramification of non-western nations now trading in alternative currencies to the U.S. dollar. {Direct Rumble Link Here] As the dollar diminishes in value, and as an outcome of Biden using U.S. treasury bonds as part of the sanction regime against Russia, various non-western nations now perceive holding dollars as exposing themselves to risk.

    Carlson is joined by Luke Gromen who accurately notes the dollar as a global trade currency may continue, but foreign nations holding U.S. treasury bonds as an asset will likely start contracting. The result of U.S. treasury bonds returning after maturity with no repurchase, would be an inability of the U.S. to borrow against their sale. This could, perhaps likely will, severely diminish the amount of money the U.S. congress can spend.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Congress would have to be fiscally competent to realize that this is a problem.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Biden might not have had to worry about this if he hadn't allowed his staff to encourage him to tard-rage about Jamal Kashoggi, a fake journalist/glowie asset who wasn't even a US citizen.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      This could, perhaps likely will, severely diminish the amount of money the U.S. congress can spend.

      So, silver lining?

  50. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "Idaho Takes Aim at Interstate Travel for Abortion. Health Care Providers Are Suing... Two doctors and a Planned Parenthood affiliate"

    Oh please ENB, Planned Parenthood is a healthcare provider in the same way that NAMBLA is a childcare provider.

    1. Jerryskids   2 years ago

      What does the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes have to do with this?

  51. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    World Economic Forum announces ‘Summer Davos’ is coming to China
    https://dossier.substack.com/p/world-economic-forum-announces-summer?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=69009&post_id=112929949&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Given that China seems to be their current model...

  52. mad.casual   2 years ago

    The new law "is somewhat strangely worded," Reason's Emma Camp noted recently, "as it technically does not criminalize the act of crossing state lines to help a minor obtain an abortion without parental consent, which is what would practically be required in a state where abortion is almost entirely illegal." But the abortion trafficking law tacitly takes aim at helping minors travel out of state for abortions, stating that the fact that "the abortion provider or the abortion-inducing drug provider is located in another state" cannot be used as an affirmative defense. So it seems an Idaho resident who helped an Idaho teenager arrange an out-of-state abortion, arrange to purchase abortion pills in another state, or travel at all within the state on the way out of state could still be charged with abortion trafficking even if the abortion itself doesn't take place in Idaho. The law also "allows the filing of lawsuits against doctors who perform such abortions, even if the doctors live outside the state," notes The New York Times.

    Good fucking God. I'd love to invoke the "At no point were you anywhere near anything resembling a coherent argument, everyone is now dumber for having listened to you. May God have mercy on your soul." meme, but this is no joke. You people are shooting word salad at each other.

    The law banning trafficking abortion is "strangely worded" because "it technically does not criminalize the act of crossing state lines to help a minor obtain an abortion without parental consent" but " it seems an Idaho resident who helped an Idaho teenager arrange an out-of-state abortion, arrange to purchase abortion pills in another state, or travel at all within the state on the way out of state could still be charged with abortion trafficking even if the abortion itself doesn't take place in Idaho"

    This is worse than the "My mask protects you, your mask protects me." retardation, that at least sums up to the assertion that masks work. This whole fucking paragraph boils down to some sort of retarded notion of "Masks don't work because, strangely, they protect the wearer but not the person who isn't wearing a mask."

    Are you having a fucking stroke? What the hell is wrong with you? Why the hell would you print this unless you were all stoned out of your skulls huffing the same sort of echo-chamber, groupthink brain fart that produced: "Bloomberg spent $500M, that's $1M for every American."

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      this was not one of those lol times when you lol but really it was just a smirk and you didn't lol

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        I’m beginning to think ENB's opposition to sandwiches has nothing to to with sexism and everything to do with virtually any description of any grilled cheese sandwich anywhere is too strangely worded for her to comprehend how to make a grilled cheese sandwich.

  53. Nobartium   2 years ago

    Once again, minors cannot consent to many things. The people who can are their parents (or legal guardian).

    Are age of consent laws immoral or aren't they, ENB?

    1. Cronut   2 years ago

      They are moral for guns, booze, tatoos, voting, entering into contracts, getting your ears pierced, smoking cigarettes, playing the lottery, getting a loan...

      For sex, drugs, tranny surgeries and abortions, they are an abomination.

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        "Ear-piercing trafficking???" ..... lol... This just gets better all the time.

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      The pregnant young woman may be a minor, but she is dealing with a decision about the most adult matter possible: being a parent. Her own judgment on the matter should count more than anyone else’s.

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        +10000000000000... WELL SAID!
        Except in the [WE] own women's uterus States....

        If you cannot support ?baby? freedom (i.e. fetal ejection)
        UR supporting Gov-Gun forced reproduction.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Because she made such excellent decisions about having sex.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          Gov-Gun forced religious principles for the WIN! /s

      3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        If her decision is to kill the little parasite growing inside of her, that’s such a great indication of putting herself in the role of a parent.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          Yeah; Real people keep their cancer and live with it. They don't cut-out their responsibility. /s

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          That comment was a tangle of contradictions.

  54. Naime Bond   2 years ago

    If these legislatures would act like legislatures instead of Revival Meetings, they could easily pass laws consistent with their grant of authority.

  55. raspberrydinners   2 years ago

    Idaho- so pro-life they'll kill you.

    Gonna be interesting to watch the mortality rate for would-be mothers skyrocket as providers leave en masse. It's as if they're actively trying to make it more of a shithole.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      No, they skyrocket in MT. In ID they just balloon.

    2. MasterThief   2 years ago

      You kill a person and some people think you should die in retribution or to eliminate the potential of you killing again.
      You fucked around and created a child. You think it's fine to kill the child because it's inconvenient. Some people say you can't kill another person (even in early development) because they're inconvenient.

      These things are not the same. Are you and your ilk fucking retarded or just dishonest?

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        “inconvenient” is a dishonesty dismissive word to use for the great responsibility and burden of being a parent.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        When we are talking about the very earliest stages of development, virtually the only people who have an objection are those who have objections for reasons of their personal religious beliefs. To impose a total abortion ban that goes to the moment of conception is an act of theocracy.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Cite?

        2. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

          More like humanism. the most precious thing in the universe is consciousness. Arthur C Clarke

          1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

            Whos? yours? It's a Power-mad trip through and through.

            1. califev   2 years ago (edited)

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      3. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        What child?
        Repeat the lie, repeat the lie, repeat the lie, repeat the lie....
        And the brainless will believe the lie is truth....

  56. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    *Sees that the main headline of the Roundup deals with abortion, checks by-line*

    "Yep, ENB's back."

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      So?

      Let’s review the list of things we aren’t allowed to talk about:
      1. DeSantis
      2. Idaho
      3. abortion

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        Sounds like a liberal victimhood narrative ya got goin on there, mike.

  57. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    Rachel Maddow: MSNBC Didn’t Carry Trump’s Speech Because ‘He’s Repeating His Same Lies’

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2023/04/05/rachel-maddow-msnbc-didnt-carry-trumps-speech-because-hes-repeating-his-same-lies/?sh=7bc600f226c7

    This is how you gaslight and maintain your bubble folks. Primetime, breathless coverage of J6 show trial, non stop Muller report coverage, somber video of Adam Schitt et al walking the articles of impeachment to the Senate...and when the guy goes live to defend himself: "we aren't going to show this, because we know the guilty man is just going to lie"...

    Nancy really did let the truth out with the "he will have a chance to prove his innocence" comment. Of course, the most incorrect part of the comment is the 'chance' portion.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      He can prove he's innocent but we're not going to air his denials because they're all lies since he's obviously guilty

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      truly tactics straight taken from stalinist show trials.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      “and when the guy goes live to defend himself”

      Woah, woah, woah. Not letting you get away with slipping that big lie into this conversation. Trump’s speech contained very little defending himself and massive heaps of his usual ranting about his accumulated list of grievances.

      (Of course, your comment itself had a little list of grievances of its own. That’s what conservative politics has sunk to these days: accumulating lists of grievances.)

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        "...with slipping that big lie"

        ^How to tell someone is a CNN shitlib. Using 'big lie' unironically.

        Turn off the MSM brother Mike, its melting your brain

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

          OK, what did Trump say in his speech that was actual self defense against the charges in the New York lawsuit? How many minutes of the speech did that part take? What did he talk about that and for how long?

          Here, I’ll help out everyone by linking to a transcript:

          https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-makes-statement-from-mar-a-lago-following-ny-arraignment-transcript

          He doesn’t even get halfway through the opening paragraph before he strays off the topic of the trial.

          1. Miss Ann Thrope   2 years ago

            So?

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              So, Rachel Maddow kinda had a valid point.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        You never do that, right mike?

    4. MasterThief   2 years ago

      To be fair, Trump did just say the same things he always does. If you've heard him before then there's really nothing interesting in his speech.
      On the flip side, I don't think people who watch MSNBC or the other networks hear him unedited or without the anchors spinning and lying about shit

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        And the viewers and advertisers of MSNBC are happy with that. Anyone who wanted to hear the whole speech could still do so.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Everyone is just fine with propaganda they like.

      2. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

        Disagree. Was never a fan but he kept an even keel, sounded like a leader and honestly was impressive as hell. Maybe a second term he would learn his lessons and bring in real conservatives and libertarians..Ron Paul running the Fed to shut it down, Tom Massie as VP, Scott Horton running State Department and so on..

  58. Sevo   2 years ago

    "...or the occasional armed insurrection..."

    TDS-addled shit tell.

    1. LaurieDelrosario   2 years ago (edited)

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  59. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>What's next in the Trump criminal case.

    anybody find a crime yet?

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      The premiere of season 8 of "The Real Impeachment: Donald Trump" doesn't bode well for the rest of the season, that's for sure.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        recently discovered I'm one degree of separation from Stephanie Crawford I'll see if I can't line her up for a guest-shot

  60. Think It Through   2 years ago

    The DOJ and the FBI are not "the police," of course. Do you even local rule libertarian?

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Of course the FBI are police.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Explain what policing the FBI performs.

      2. Think It Through   2 years ago

        Of course the FBI is not the police.

        I can do this all day.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Uh, huh, sure. They investigate crimes, they arrest people, you know, stuff police do.

  61. Adrian Smith   2 years ago

    Stimulating active relationships in the market of British aerospace services, space tourism market report for 2023-2028. The profile of companies has become significantly richer and more successful in its activities, as can be seen from future results.

  62. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    More like: Idaho Republican hand Democrats a sure win....
    Proving they're just as ridiculously Power-mad as the left.

    Over in CA; Driving a gasoline car is killing/aborting the entire civilized world!!!!!

  63. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    Everyone at the FBI above GS-12 should be fired, and we'll start over again. It can't be fixed without a thorough cleaning.

    1. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

      Interesting concept. Can we apply the same to every federal agency?

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        The FBI is especially rogue and dangerous.

  64. LaurieDelrosario   2 years ago (edited)

    I get paid more than $100 to $500 per hour for working online. I heard about this job 3 months ago and after joining this I have earned easily $21k from this without having online working skills . Simply give it a shot on the accompanying site…

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  65. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

    Reason..the so called libertarian magazine supporting..open borders, killing fetuses, sexually mutilating children, sexualizing children to transvestitism but not opposite sex strippers, neocon wars (Cathy Young), covid lockdowns, the Fed, federal intervention in housing and on and on.

    Seriously..Nick, Matt, and the "gang" sound like fing NPR.

    1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      Maybe it just wasn't ever Gov-Guns job to raise children to begin with......... After all; Isn't that were this all started? Maybe the only 'asset' a monopoly of guns can offer society is to ensure every individual has liberty and justice.

      I'm just about tired of the knee jerk, "It's for the kids" excuse for growing Gov-Gun tyranny. Tyranny isn't going to fix tyranny.

  66. In Canis Credimus   2 years ago

    This is MAGA mentality. They think they control the entire world because their GodKing Trump says so and the world needs to bend to their depraved morals. Sorry it won't work, it won't last an hour in front of any credible judge or the SCOTUS.

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

      This law doesn’t prohibit interstate travel for abortion or impose any morality. What it does is prohibit taking someone else’s kid and driving them to an abortion clinic against her parents’ wishes.

      Yes, parents have the right to make medical decisions for their children, including whether the children have an abortion or not. And when a third party interferes with that right, that should be illegal.

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        Just a big fat never-mind to the catch-22 there. It's illegal here and it's illegal to exit here. The 'right'??? What right? It's all about RESTRICTION through and through.

  67. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

    On Wednesday, Republican Gov. Brad Little signed a law creating the new crime of “abortion trafficking.” The law makes it illegal to help someone under age 18 obtain an abortion “by recruiting, harboring, or transporting the pregnant minor within this state” without a parent or guardian’s permission, with violations punishable by two to five years in prison.

    Seems reasonable to me. In fact, in general, it should be illegal to “recruit, harbor, or transport” a minor against a parent’s wishes for any purpose.

    This is not a law against interstate travel for abortion, this is a law against manipulating and transporting children against their parents' wishes.

    1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      Pregnant at 5-years old or what?
      "If only we can keep treating people like babies until they're 45! Only then can the true POWER of the government be realized." /s

  68. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

    Abortion is the most important right.

  69. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    She couldn't right yesterday's codenmation of sex work, even with a But Trump!

  70. Ronbback   2 years ago

    ABORTION is only illegal without parents permission. Crazy to think ENB would be okay with strangers taking kids to other locations to hide the fact they got a teen pregnant.

  71. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    But how do skin colors factor in?

  72. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Mike was literally promoting contempt charges for Trump talking. The one true libertarian.

  73. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    "Baby, if you didn't make me so angry and provoke me so much, I wouldn't be forced to hit you like that."

  74. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

    ‘DeeSarc’? Is that like ‘BrundleFly’?

  75. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    excited delirium

    Possible band name?

  76. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Imagine working for a libertarian magazine and still telling people that the DOJ and FBI did police work.

  77. mad.casual   2 years ago

    If only for the album title: Excited Delirium and The Black and Brown Peoples' Greatest Hits

  78. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    Or even a whole genre of metal.

  79. Sevo   2 years ago

    X is too complicated for sarc, where X = a really big number of subjects.

  80. MasterThief   2 years ago

    It was actually kinda funny how she claimed it was totally banned...except for all of the reasonable exceptions we were told were the only reason anybody defends abortion.
    I'd be less bothered if she just outright said she wants to be a slut and never face cosequences even if that means killing her own child. That's essentially what the pro-abortion side is arguing

  81. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    The law is much broader than only covering the scenario where the person who got the minor pregnant is the person transporting her across state lines.

  82. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

    I’m sure it would also be ok for them to have any random adult transport a twelve year old to have their genitals amputated.

  83. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    "[W]e've always had a private notion of children. Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven't had a very collective notion of these are our children. So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities." - Melissa Harris-Perry (stupid cunt)

  84. NOYB2   2 years ago

    The way it always has. Just ask Margaret Sanger:

    "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

  85. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

    As long as no one is left out. I'll offer myself to the odd one out.
    🙂

  86. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    5uck

  87. JesseAz   2 years ago

    He just showed up pushing a strawman above.

  88. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    Sarc and Mike are like a two legged stool

  89. JesseAz   2 years ago

    X approaching infinity?

  90. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    No Lucky Pierre for you.

  91. Dillinger   2 years ago

    odd-number groups are the most fun of all

  92. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

    I thought that was true in the Adjective sense (Lenore Skenazy), but it’s true in the verb sense

  93. Nobartium   2 years ago

    All evidence to the contrary.

  94. Dillinger   2 years ago

    zero unpermitted persons should transport a minor across state lines.

  95. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    Do you understand that the context of my comment was that it was a reply to Ronblack’s comment?

  96. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/DolioJ/status/1644024341569347589?t=_iG0u7z9ErEmjDN9O6XB2w&s=19

    Ask yourself what type of training the DoD and FBI are doing together that involves snatches from a hotel.

    Prepare.

    "@EvanLambertTV
    Confirmed to NewsNation: DOD & Boston FBI accidentally detained a hotel guest last night while conducting a training exercise FBI was assisting with. "...they were mistakenly sent to the wrong room and detained an individual, not the intended role player.""

  97. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>accidentally detained

    bridges for sale!

  98. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago (edited)

    Ask yourself what type of training the DoD and FBI are doing together that involves snatches from a hotel.

    Huh… I didn’t realize the Posse Comitatus Act was repealed… /sarc

  99. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    they were mistakenly sent to the wrong room and detained an individual, not the intended role player

    That was the plot of a rape story on Law and Order.

  100. HorseConch   2 years ago

    You don't suppose that they're complicit, do you?

  101. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

    Adults in the room. That's all that matters.

  102. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

    No! It’s a melt. Unless you spear an olive to it. Then it’s a grilled cheese that can be legally used to lure minors across state lines to get an abortion.

  103. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Squawking all the way down.

  104. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

    Can we get Dennis Reynolds and the gang in here to straighten Dee out?

  105. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

    Funny how different Dee’s attitude was when then 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse (and American hero) crossed state lines. But if infanticide is involved, then anything goes.

  106. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

    Why We Should Abolish the Family:
    The family is a conservative project that limits human flourishing. The family must be abolished.

    The Marxists have said they are coming for families. We should believe them and prepare.

  107. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    +1000; Nazism; It's for the kids don't ya know!! /s
    EVEN the kids in people imagination that cannot sustain a life (i.e. Unicorns)!!

  108. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    Maybe [WE] is the very defining trait of the Marxist.

  109. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    It's too late.

  110. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    He never does.

  111. califev   2 years ago (edited)

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  112. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

    I would prefer BrundleFly.

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