Conservative Florida Lawmakers Want To Expand LGBT Censorship to Charter Schools

New bill makes a mockery of parents’ rights, school choice, and educational freedom.

A bill making its way through Florida's Legislature would expand the state's censorship of discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity all the way up through eighth grade and, in addition, would specify that charter schools are included in the ban.

This attack on educational freedom comes just days after Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law H.B. 1, which expanded school choice to all Florida students. It's a reminder that when some (but not all) conservatives and Republicans talk about "school choice" and "parents' rights," they have a limited view of what those choices should be and which parents should have rights.

H.B. 1069, which passed the state's House on Friday, would staple some new rules onto H.B. 1557, the law passed in 2022 that censored any discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade and restricted it in other grades. H.B. 1069 expands the censorship from pre-K all the way up to eighth grade. And while proponents of this type of legislation have insisted that this is all about giving parents control over their children's education, one simple line of text will undermine that entire argument if this bill is signed into law: "This subparagraph applies to charter schools."

All of this is in addition to the latest move by the state's Department of Education to implement regulations that apply a greater level of censorship to all discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in all grades.

What makes charter schools so valuable is that they give families the freedom to pursue education that meets their children's needs and is free from overly restrictive, one-size-fits-all lesson plans. Families can find charter schools that cater to special needs children or that only focus on certain subjects. There are also a small number of charter schools designed for families with LGBT parents or children.

H.B. 1069 essentially declares that certain types of families will be denied the educational freedom offered by charter schools by censoring which topics can be taught. Politicians who actually believe in "parents' rights" and school choice should be very much opposed to this ban. If parents want their children to learn about LGBT issues in schools, it should not be for a group of conservatives in Tallahassee to tell them no.

In a similar vein, another part of H.B. 1069 undermines the educational choices of families by amending the process of objecting to and removing books from schools. The bill requires that any book or material that is the subject of a removal request by a parent be removed and unavailable to students within five days for an investigation. This means the allegedly objectionable material will be unavailable to all students, not just those of the parents who object. The bill also adds a lengthy appeals process that involves bringing in a special magistrate that the school district has to pay for if a parent continues to object. As Reason has pointed out before, these aren't "parents' rights" bills at all. These are "parents' veto" laws that allow some parents to control what other parents' kids have access to. And since the school district will have to pay to bring in a magistrate to fight against these objections, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the easiest thing for a school district to do is just remove anything any parent objects to.

H.B. 1069 passed the House easily Friday by a vote of 77–35, and the Senate version is currently being reviewed by the Fiscal Policy Committee. If the bill passes, it will be a test of DeSantis' actual commitment to school choice. If he signs it into law, he's giving credence to any Democratic or progressive critic that says "school choice" is really a conservative plot to undermine public schools and school unions as a mechanism of control, not freedom. It is taking power away from parents and concentrating it in the hands of conservative lawmakers.

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[InsaneTrollLogic]

What part of “prepubescent kids are not sexual beings” do you not get, Shackford? Are you a groomer, pedophile, or both?

[Vernon Depner]

Does Reason do background checks?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

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[perlmonger]

Though the FBI might.

Admittedly, these days that might just be for new spank bank material.

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[InsaneTrollLogic]

Well, they let SPB back on with a new name, SPB2, if that says anything.

[Uilleam]

Both apparently.

[Mike Parsons]

The ‘stop calling us groomers’ crowd is really, really obsessed with dying on the hill of ‘quit stopping us from sexualizing your kids’ and cant figure out why that reinforces the notion that they are, in fact, groomers

[A Cynical Asshole]

The ‘stop calling us groomers’ crowd is really, really obsessed with dying on the hill of ‘quit stopping us from sexualizing your kids’

Yep, if you don’t like being called “groomers” then maybe stop acting like them.

Of course, none of this would be an issue if the schools and teachers had just done their fucking jobs and concentrated on teaching useful knowledge (like “the three r’s,” etc.) instead of insisting on bringing their weird personal shit into the classrooms with them, as evidenced by the weird cottage industry of teachers on TikTok and other social media practically bragging about how awesome it is to teach their students about their pronouns and shit. And how awesome it is to get validation from school children (what the fuck kind of adult craves the validation of 8 year olds?)

That’s why they hate Libs of TikTock so much even though all she’s doing is re-posting their bullshit unedited, without additional commentary. Before the only people who would have seen their bullshit would be other weirdos who follow those freaks, but thanks to Libs now a lot of people who otherwise wouldn’t be aware of how sick some of these fucks are can see it with their own eyes.

[shortviking]

Shouldn’t the market correct all this? Are there really enough people to keep a fucked up private school in business?

[perlmonger]

Teachers Union beats Free Market in that particular game of rock paper scissors.

[jimc5499]

What “private schools” are you referring to? Charter schools are still public schools and receive funding from the State.

[A Cynical Asshole]

In a perfect world, perhaps (at least when it comes to private schools – but most schools aren’t private). But there’s little market forces in education and practically none when it comes to state funded schools.

It’s also worth remembering that a lot of the “grooming” type stuff was being done – or trying to be done – in secret (e.g. “Don’t tell your parents we’re talking about this gender stuff.”) See above wrt to why they hate Libs of TikTok so much. She exposed their insanity to a much wider audience than the choir of freaks of weirdos they were preaching to. Now that the cat’s out of the bag they don’t know what to do other than throw a hissy fit and accuse anyone who dissents to this shit “transphobes.”

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[Nardz]

They are doing their job.
Grooming children is their job.

[A Cynical Asshole]

Perhaps I was being naive but I thought their job was to teach children things they actually needed to know – not how to play with their privates or preferred pro-noun crap.

[Nardz]

Not in the USSA and culmination of the Progressive Era

[Pear Satirical]

I feel sorry for the non-groomer part of the LGBT community. They’re getting lumped in with these degenerates.

[perlmonger]

Same.

[A Cynical Asshole]

I feel sorry for the non-groomer part of the LGBT community.

Not only that but it took years, decades really, to defeat the stereotype that LGBT people (G’s especially) were pedo’s only for these perverts to undo a lot of that in the space of a couple of years. So yeah, agreed.

[Beezard]

Douglas Murray has bit in The Madness of Crowds suggesting the Gay vs. Queer divide goes all the way back to the 60s/70s civil rights struggle for gays.

Some Marxist always has to come along and hijack a cause.

Kind of like how “criminal Justice reform” became “let’s not charge people for theft and assault”.

I think a big part of the problem is by the 2010s we sort of gave up or lost the battle over what a “right” actually is. Like, WTF is a “trans right”?

[perlmonger]

It’s not like the parents that actually *want* to turn their kids into basket-cases can’t still do that at home under these laws, but Scott apparently thinks it’s insufficient if the schools can’t groom *all* the children.

[SQRLSY One]

Meanwhile, HERE is the kind of wasteful, STUPID (even evil) witch-hunts that happen when all of the witch-burners are left off of their leashes, to go and hunt “groomers”!!!!

https://reason.com/2023/04/03/poncha-springs-schoolhouse-daycare-kids-preschool-trial/

[Rossami]

Eighth graders are not “prepubescent”.

Regardless, Shackford is exactly right that this particular law violates parents’ rights. You and I may disagree with what these parents are choosing to teach their children (either directly or through their chosen proxies) but I stand firmly in the corner of a parent’s right to make that mistake.

Charter schools are a social ‘good’ because they take government out of the equation. Don’t subvert that good by reinserting government just for one social policy that parents are perfectly capable of addressing on their own.

[mad.casual]

Shackford is exactly right that this particular law violates parents’ rights.

Shackford has consistently demonstrated himself to be about as unConstitutional a scholar as there could ever be and this is no exception. States set public education guidelines all the time, even for home schooling. You can’t teach your kids Klingon and say it meets foreign language or humanities requirements or teach Scientology and say it meets history requirements all without informing the parents and *then* insist they accredit you as an educational institution. You’re free to pick from the languages they approve, you’re free to let parents know the educational curriculum up front, that non-traditional educational topics will be addressed outside dedicated classes, but you can’t teach them the tenets of Nationalized Socialism in study hall without parents’ knowledge/consent.

The only way to avoid it would be to wholly extract education from State regulation at all levels and Scott doesn’t want to do that because he systematically wants to have other peoples’ kids in school and sexualize them too. If that means handing schools over to unelected admins and public sector unions… well, he pretty flatly supports that.

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

I imagine there are laws against doctors amputating kids’ arms and legs just for grins, that any parents who tried to push doctors to do that would also run afoul of the legal system, and that any teachers who tried to encourage such choices in children would be similarly charged with child endangerment and lose their jobs and teaching credentials.

Gender mutilation surgery, puberty blockers, and all that propaganda should be exactly the same.

[EdG]

How many gender mutilation surgeries are performed on Kindergarten through 8th grade students each day in Florida?

[Jefferson's Ghost]

“Charter schools are a social ‘good’ because they take government out of the equation.”

Exactly.

[Truthfulness]

[Vernon Depner]

this particular law violates parents’ rights. You and I may disagree with what these parents are choosing to teach their children…but I stand firmly in the corner of a parent’s right to make that mistake.

Keeping certain material out of the school library does not violate any parent’s right to teach their third-grader about transgenderism and how to sodomize. Parents are free to buy those books and share them with their kids at home. In Drag if they like. Making decisions about what is acceptable in public school libraries through the democratic process is entirely appropriate.

[n00bdragon]

I thought the whole appeal of the charter school system was that parents get to take the money that would have been allocated for their kids to go to public school and get to spend it on whatever kind of education they want, that the charter schools form a (kind of) open market for education. Charter schools good, public schools bad when the public schools don’t teach what you want, but when a charter school teaches something you don’t like (even if you don’t send your kids there) now charter schools bad public schools good?

Who is supposed to ultimately be in charge of what kids learn? Parents or the state?

[Vernon Depner]

Charter schools are not independent. They are still public schools under the authority of the school boards.

[mad.casual]

It’s a deliberate conflation. That is, a Catholic school absolutely can teach Canon Law. What they can’t do is pass it off as US History or US Criminal Law and maintain their certification. As usual, Scott and others, insist on being disingenuous shitbags to the hilt.

The law, even the expanded version, lays out that sex education discussion can be had in sex ed. What is being forbidden is the presentation of Tinto Brass’ and Bob Guccione’s Caligula as some sort of historical, educational documentary AND SPECIFICALLY WITHOUT PARENTS’ KNOWLEDGE/CONSENT.

[Saint Sebastian]

This updated process/procedure is ripe for being abused, and quite quickly they will find that there are objections from so many different directions that they might as well just close the library and stop any teaching other than quietly sitting there for eight hours because it is all “banned until further review”. Then they’ll decide that the politicians/bureaucrats can make all of the decisions because they don’t like some of the objections that have been raised, and the whole idea of “parent’s rights” will disappear into a “government diktat”.

[Vernon Depner]

I remember having school libraries without porn, and with none of that contention happening.

[EdG]

What was it like in the 1850s when you were a kid?

[Azathoth!!]

Eighth graders are not “prepubescent”.

True. By 13 most kids are in puberty

So it’s okay for Shackford to lust after telling pubescent AND prepubescent kids about his sex life? Keep in mind that this is a man who thought abstention from sex with strangers during the monkeypox infection was an annoyance and the vaccine needed to be hastened so he could get back to having sex with the infected.

Here’s a simple tip.

Other than the absolute basics in sex ed, teachers should not be talking with students about sex at all. Not orientation. Not how-to. Not gender theory. Nothing.

Until they’re in college.

Before that talking about sex is the parents job.

Real simple.

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[Bill Falcon]

A person’s sexual preference isn’t fully known until at least puberty and likely after. As for “trans”..it is a mental issue not a sexual preference.

Scott needs to stop this insane “protect my tribe at all costs” mentality. You don’t want to be on the side of that mom who convinced her five year old son he was a girl and had his sexual organs mutilated.

The gay movement needs to ditch this battle..it is not the hill to die on..with pedos and groomers on either side of the trenches.

[Wizard4169]

What’s it like, going through life spewing lies, bullshit and insults?

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Yet you freaks are so damned determined to force bakers to bake cakes.

Have it or eat it, one or the other; not both.

[Vernon Depner]

There are also a small number of charter schools designed for families with …T parents or children.

There should be NO state-sanctioned schools that encourage the delusions of mentally ill children by playing along with them, or that encourage the poisoning and mutilation of children in pursuit of reifying their delusions. Private schools doing so should not be tolerated, either, but they’re further from the reach of the law. Perhaps private lawsuits from their victims will shut them down.

There are no “parents’ rights” to harm their children.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

Speaking of delusions, what is your opinion of schools that teach absolute fucking nonsense — that childish fairy tales are true, for example, or that evolution is a demonic hoax launch from hell — to children?

Should schools that flatter slack-jawed, bigoted, half-educated, superstition-addled adults be tolerated, in your judgment, Vernon Depner?

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Gender mutilation is permanent. Learning the Earth is flat and 6000 years old is easily reverses and harms no one, not even the believer, unless they want to be a geologist or airline pilot.

[Fkthepostoffice]

^ gold

[Inquisitive Squirrel]

What non-straw man schools teach those things as fact?

[EdG]

The School of Imaginary Happenings, of course.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Such a good slave.

[Azathoth!!]

Speaking of delusions, what is your opinion of schools that teach absolute fucking nonsense — that childish fairy tales are true,

What kind of fairy tales, Artie?

That one can carve a man into a woman?

That cold is a sign of excessive heat?

That the only thing you need to get rich is a printing press?

If you had a jaw, you chinless drooling hermaphrodite, it’d be slack because you’re a twisted filter feeder in informational sewage, too overwhelmed by the stench you create to understand that everything you believe in comes straight from your anus.

[Pear Satirical]

Why do you hate Muslims and Jews so much?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Artie is an antisemitic twit.

[Illocust]

In an ideal world there wouldn’t be. Just like in an ideal world no one would openly be supporting communism anymore. But this is a prime example of cutting down all the laws to get to the devil. Sometimes the consequences of stopping something are worse than just letting them happen.

[Vernon Depner]

Teaching such things in public schools is not just “letting them happen”, it is endorsing and facilitating them.

[Lester75]

If parents want their 10 and 11 year olds to go to a health class which teaches that there is such a thing as menstruation, then I think they should be allowed to do that without the government forbidding it because one parent in the school is squeamish. Lots of girls get their periods in 5th and 6th grade nowadays (fatter girls get their periods earlier). Some of these FLA regulations are reasonable and some are just nonsensical.

[perlmonger]

Which of “sexual orientation” or “gender identity” does that topic fall under?

[Truthfulness]

Or how about we just let parents do that job and keep the government out of it? Is that too much for you?

[damikesc]

Why must schools do that?

Parents exist. If the parents are too squeamish to do their jobs, they are free to look into adoption.

[Leizl]

Parents are notified of the health class discussion on puberty, which is an hour long and happens once in fifth grade, and has happened since before I was in fifth grade which was a long ass time ago. But I think you know this and are being intentionally obtuse.

[Idaho Bob]

H.B. 1069, which passed the state’s House on Friday, would staple some new rules onto H.B. 1557, the law passed in 2022 that censored any discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade and restricted it in other grades.

This is spun like censoring sexual orientation and gender identity K-3 is a bad thing.

When does the pedo killing begin? It can’t be far…

[Vernon Depner]

What I wonder is why the mass exodus from public schools hasn’t begun yet? I know withdrawals increased during the COVID Insanity, but I would hope to see public schools at least half empty in September.

[Uilleam]

Lack of options. Charter schools are becoming more common but the waiting list is tremendous, and public school is still the most practical option that allows a parent to work without extra cost. Also, this groomer agenda is being blocked by good parents in a lot of districts.

[Pear Satirical]

Doesn’t help that teacher unions will fight tooth and nail to hamstring school choice as much as possible.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

I would hope to see public schools at least half empty in September.

Do you prefer religious schools, you bigoted, half-educated, worthless, faux libertarian misfit?

People who disdain public schools are culture war casualties who will spend the rest of their deplorable lives complying with the preferences of better Americans, who will continue to shape our national progress against the wishes and efforts of right-wing malcontents.

[Inquisitive Squirrel]

Did you just call someone a faux libertarian because they do not support public schools?

[Benitacanova]

Nice.

[Pear Satirical]

No, he called someone a faux libertarian because they don’t support public (government run) schools.

[Inquisitive Squirrel]

Yes, that’s what I said. Public run = government run.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Such a good slave.

[perlmonger]

Only if you’re in need of someone to provide blow jobs to hobos.

[Wizard4169]

Yeah, they’ve already dropped that mask. They’re pushing this just as hard and fast as they can. This isn’t about protecting young children, it’s about shutting down speech they don’t like.

[Nemo Aequalis]

It’s a reminder that when some (but not all) conservatives and Republicans talk about “school choice” and “parents’ rights,” they have a limited view of what those choices should be and which parents should have rights.

I’m sure Republicans will be happy to explain that one as soon as Libertarians explain how they went from a movement favoring low taxes, property rights and guns to a creepy cult of kiddie diddlers.

[Uilleam]

The only libertarians here are in the comment section.

[Wizard4169]

I’m having trouble finding any libertarians in the comments these days. I can remember when people had actual debates. Now it’s mostly shit-flinging right wingnuts.

[Mother's Lament]

Not only is Shackford misrepresenting and assigning motives here, he’s doing it to cover for the most reprehensible of reasons, sexualizing minors.

[Wizard4169]

Oh, give the bullshit a rest. Refusing to pretend that gay people don’t exist isn’t “sexualizing minors”. And it’s getting harder to pretend that’s not the goal with each passing day.

[Mike Parsons]

Hey Shackford, speaking of LGBTQ youth…

Any comment on the deranged head case that was driven to shoot up a Christian school due to her deranged ideology, and likely also due to the side effects of abusing hormone treatments?

Maybe teaching kids this stuff yields some devastating results…

[A Cynical Asshole]

Any comment on the deranged head case that was driven to shoot up a Christian school due to her deranged ideology, and likely also due to the side effects of abusing hormone treatments?

I probably shouldn’t be at this point, but I’m a little surprised at the absolute lack of coverage here. Doing a search on Reason for “Nashville school shooting” the only story I can find that even mentions it is this.

If you want to avoid the rainbow colored elephant in the room and concentrate solely on the 2A implications that’s fine, but holy shit, it’s like they don’t even want to mention the story at all except in passing.

[jimc5499]

CBS has banned it’s reporters from using “trans” in reference to the shooter.

[Longtobefree]

Did you use google or duckduckgo?

[A Cynical Asshole]

No, I used the search bar at the top of reason.com/latest so I was only searching on this website. I know there’s tons of other media coverage, but reason seems to be in full radio silence.

[Kungpowderfinger]

As soon as the tranny aspect was exposed (and not by the mainstream media mind you), the story was disappeared within days by the major news outlets. A decree that Reason cheerfully complied with as well.

[A Cynical Asshole]

That was another thing that was confusing, all the “dead naming” and “mis-gendering” of the shooter that was going on in the mainstream media. I thought that was “transphobic” and “violence” or some shit. Weird.

[Pear Satirical]

They do what they have to for those cocktail party invites.

[mad.casual]

Lemme guess, Scott, once again, obfuscates clear distinctions in the law about who owns what and what monies come from where, and also obfuscates agency, informed consent, and liability in a decidedly anti-libertarian, pro-State fashion in order to defend people taking tax dollars in order to sexualize children.

[mad.casual]

If he signs it into law, he’s giving credence to any Democratic or progressive critic that says “school choice” is really a conservative plot to undermine public schools and school unions as a mechanism of control, not freedom.

The libertarian case for deep state child sexualization.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

“a conservative plot to undermine public schools and school unions as a mechanism of control”
And that’s a bad thing?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yeah I didn’t read it either but I suspect you’re right.

[Thomas L. Knapp]

That’s what “school choice” — whether it’s charter schools, vouchers, or tax credits — does: Turns the schools it’s used at into government schools.

Every government dollar comes with strings attached. That’s proven — we’ve already it with the GI Bill and student loans/grants for college. Want the money? Follow the government “guidelines.” And all but a handful of schools did.

Absent complete separation of school and state, politicians are going to decide what’s taught and how. Maybe you get Ron DeSantis, maybe you get AOC, but either way you get politicized education.

[Illocust]

Yeah, this is one of the big reasons I’m not for vouchers. Once the government gives someone money, they can take it away if you don’t pay ball, and the government will always have more money to bribe a school with than a parent can come up with.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

Should Charter schools also be free to teach Flat Earth? Should the Civics instruction also include Lizard People, or just The Illuminati?

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Think for a minute. Compare and contrast the consequences and reversibility of learning the Earth is flat and 6000 years old, and that Lizard People aka Scientologists run the government; vs pushing kids to get irreversible gender mutilation surgery and puberty blockers.

[mad.casual]

Again, I come back to the analogy of tossing virgins into volcanoes… as social/educational policy.

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/wesyang/status/1643038901961883650?t=3LT_GaTWerxRKfMGpCwOtQ&s=19

The maniacal cult that did this to people and then heaps scorn on them for revealing the horror they inflicted so it can keep consuming other children under the guise of life-saving affirmation is an evil beyond reckoning

[Link]

[TheReEncogitationer]

Intellectual damage or physical damage shouldn’t have to be reversed. Why don’t you brainwash yourself in Creationism, Flat Earthism, Icke-ism, and Illuminati-ism and see if you can reverse it on a lark? Dummy!

Sanford Dummy Reel
https://youtu.be/moYdbNXBwvk

[bobby oshea]

You know… most Americans agree that everything begins in the home. So remember, psychologically abuse your children on your own time… at home.

[Truthfulness]

And how do you know this is happening? And what makes you think public schools don’t have “psychological abuse”? They certainly do.

[Naime Bond]

One way or another Trump’s four years have exposed the left and brought them and their agendas out into the open. If you tried to compromise and say matters of a sexual nature shall not be discussed in any school in front of any child, who is exactly 1,855 days old, they would still object and fight just as hard to keep the grooming coming.

[I, Woodchipper]

He tore the masks off. It’s been a wild ride, amazing to watch.

[perlmonger]

Is *that* why they were so adamant about masks the last several years?

[I, Woodchipper]

1. Obviously the government has no power to dictate what parents (and thus private schools) choose to teach their kids about sexuality

2. Public schools are a different ball game. Get rid of them entirely but if not, at least stop with the sex and tranny training of people’s 8 year olds behind their fucking backs. it’s madness to support such a thing. I cant believe the hard left is choosing to die on this hill.

[mad.casual]

1. Obviously the government has no power to dictate what parents (and thus private schools) choose to teach their kids about sexuality

A little of this is Scott’s obfuscation but the general notion is bullshit. Scouts and The Catholic Church are private organizations. They can teach their own laws and lessons without the State incurring any obligation to treat them as educational institutions. Further, “grooming” entered the larger lexicon specifically because of gay Priests and Scout leaders sexualizing children. All members of both organizations and several more all undergo training and have a duty to report while public school systems frequently shuffle teachers around or even endorse their activities.

[Cronut]

Why is it so important to the left to get trans propaganda into as many classrooms as possible?

Gays have acheived everythint they wanted. They have been completely normalized within society, and the majority of Americans support LGBT rights. Scott once wrote about that himself, and warned the rainbow army not to go too far and accept the victory.

What happened to Scott? Seems like he got gobbled up into exactly the type of behavior he warned about.

[I, Woodchipper]

The marxist revolutionaries have seized on the tranny theme as a way to divide the generations. they do not fucking care about trannies. Their only goal is to divide and conquer and the tranny thing is working for them for now. If that goes away they’ll pick something else.

[Nardz]

It’s also a HUGE tool in the “people are blank slates” box to deny natural forces and individuality

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yeah I think that’s right. This is a lot bigger than just some wacky teacher on TikTok. It is fully entrenched in the regime institutions. Does anybody really believe that Joe Biden gives a rat’s ass about transgender people? They are a tool to achieve a much more sinister outcome. Shackford is also a tool. But we already knew that.

[mad.casual]

Does anybody really think Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama evolved in their thinking on Gay Marriage?

[Nardz]

Sure.
Before it was politically useless to promote gay marriage, then it became politically useful.

[mad.casual]

This is if you assume the best intentions of useful idiots. If you don’t, it’s obvious that much of the tactics being used to advocate trans “rights” are hand-in-glove with the gay rights movement. That it’s all just a series of weapons for nihilistic authoritarians to use to obliterate histories, cultures, and even identities so that everything falls within the State’s domain.

[Jefferson's Ghost]

“It’s a reminder that when some (but not all) conservatives and Republicans talk about “school choice” and “parents’ rights,” they have a limited view of what those choices should be and which parents should have rights.”

Why am I TOTALLY not surprised by this move?

[sarcasmic]

“You can do it your own way, if it’s done just how I say”

[I, Woodchipper]

now do the Bible, and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and the Bell Curve

[bobby oshea]

“which parents should have rights.”

I feel this needs to be expounded. What parents are wanting to force other people’s kids to discuss [transgender ideology] in the classroom? Aren’t these controversial subjects that people might strongly disagree about? Wouldn’t it be more prudent to let parents discuss such subjects at home? If it is going to discussed in school, will it be approached the same as religion – “there are people that believe and do this thing” – and not as the required groupthink?

[Nardz]

Because you’re a regime sucking bugman willing to cosign a groomer/pedo like Shackford?

[Jefferson's Ghost]

You are TOO FUNNY! Great sense of humor.

[sarcasmic]

I hate to break it to you guys, but the kids are sexualized already. The are deciding their sexual identities as early as six or seven. I don’t get it, but that’s the way it is. Don’t shoot the messenger.

If you accept that uncomfortable fact, then the stuff going on in schools is more of a symptom than a cause.

[Jefferson's Ghost]

+

[Demosthenes of Athens]

I’ll translate: “Surrender, you’ve lost once, so there is no way you can win in the future.”

[sarcasmic]

There’s nothing to win. It’s part of youth culture now.

[I, Woodchipper]

In California yes. In Montana, no.

[sarcasmic]

They don’t have the Internet in Montana?

[I, Woodchipper]

The stats are clear. Transo/LGB kids are a much higher ratio of kids in California than in Ohio. I wonder why that is? It’s not the internet.

[sarcasmic]

I’m saying it’s a cultural thing. Fighting it is like telling kids in the 90s that they can’t wear black and listen to NIN.

That, IIRC, is when gay became acceptable, and shortly after bi became cool.

[Inquisitive Squirrel]

Oh man, I long for the days when dark baggy clothes and listening to NIN was what was rebellious! So, much better than what passes for “rebellious” these days.

[sarcasmic]

And adults at the time thought it was the end of the world.

[Leizl]

Trans is the new goth.

[I, Woodchipper]

I’m saying it’s a cultural thing… *in California* and not so much a cultural thing in say, Upper Peninsula of Michigan

[sarcasmic]

Give it time.

[Truthfulness]

Why spread such a nonsensical ideology?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Societal disruption. By disrupting society, their overlords hope to remake it.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Something about that ocean breeze I’m guessing.

[sarcasmic]

I might say that I have a bit of knowledge of what’s going on, and share in some personal experiences in order to explore ideas, but then every comment of mine will have a dozen replies for the next month talking all kinds of shit. So I won’t.

[shortviking]

Great, now let them get a job at 18 and pay for their own fucked up surgeries and shit. Until then, they do what their parents say if they want to keep a roof over their heads.

[sarcasmic]

27 actually. Unless you want it on your health insurance.

[Benitacanova]

Bobby Riggs once wrote about losing his virginity, age 9.

Kids, sex, with each other, nothing so new. Adults grooming, legally, now that’s progress.

[sarcasmic]

Adults grooming for what purpose? And don’t day “Duh.” This has been going on for years. Where’s all the adults taking advantage of these groomed kids?

[SQRLSY One]

Meanwhile, HERE is the kind of wasteful, STUPID (even evil) witch-hunts that happen when all of the witch-burners are left off of their leashes, to go and hunt “groomers”!!!!

https://reason.com/2023/04/03/poncha-springs-schoolhouse-daycare-kids-preschool-trial/

[mad.casual]

I hate to break it to you guys, but the kids are sexualized already. The are deciding their sexual identities as early as six or seven. I don’t get it, but that’s the way it is. Don’t shoot the messenger.

Do you think none of us have kids? Do you think none of us have been through them spouting things they don’t understand? Do you think you have some special insight into just sexuality or are you going to point out that kids are pretty much racist by the time they get to 9 too?

How fucked up and shitty does your worldview and self-worth have to be that you choose to do this to kids and other people on the internet? If the messenger didn’t want to get shot, he shouldn’t have tried to decorate his saloon with my kids’ sexuality.

[sarcasmic]

One of these days you’ll respond without a personal attack. Ha! Who am I kidding?

[Illocust]

Parental veto to material in school libraries doesn’t seem to be a real issue. If parents want their kids to have access to those books they can still buy those books for their kids, but this puts a check on activist bureaucrats.

[shortviking]

I’m gonna cop out and say I agree with the basic premise of the article but it’s not a hill I’m willing to die on. The fence hurts my ass sometimes.

[A Cynical Asshole]

The fence hurts my ass sometimes.

If only you’d had a groomer teacher around when you were in school to teach you about lube…

[SQRLSY One]

Meanwhile, HERE is the kind of wasteful, STUPID (even evil) witch-hunts that happen when all of the witch-burners are left off of their leashes, to go and hunt “groomers”!!!!

https://reason.com/2023/04/03/poncha-springs-schoolhouse-daycare-kids-preschool-trial/

[Azathoth!!]

Hey, it’s Scott Shachford– maybe he’ll finally say something about the transman the cops killed in Nashville and why they did it.

Or maybe he’ll write more lying articles about Florida.

Which do you think is more likely?

[I, Woodchipper]

Dont use the word “transman”. Dont play into their framing. If you concede to the enemy’s framing and language you’ve already lost.

[Longtobefree]

Exactly.
Men are men.
Women are women.
That’s it.

[sarcasmic]

You can’t turn an X into a Y.

[Truthfulness]

So why support people who don’t believe that?

[sarcasmic]

When did I do that?

[Longtobefree]

All of this controversy goes away when taxpayer funding goes away.

[mad.casual]

Scott specifically doesn’t want the spending to go away. He wants the Unions. He wants the admins. He wants other people to pay for it all. And he doesn’t want to feel guilty about taking their money and sexualizing their children.

[I, Woodchipper]

“Liberal Lawmakers Want To Expand White Supremacy Acceptance Censorship to Charter Schools.
New bill makes a mockery of parents’ rights, school choice, and educational freedom.”

“A bill making its way through the Legislature would expand the state’s censorship of teaching acceptance of white supremacy with historical proofs to back it up all the way up through eighth grade and, in addition, would specify that charter schools are included in the ban.”

[I, Woodchipper]

“Liberal Lawmakers Want To Expand Intelligent Design Censorship to Charter Schools.
New bill makes a mockery of parents’ rights, school choice, and educational freedom.”

“A bill making its way through the Legislature would expand the state’s censorship of Intelligent design theory all the way up through eighth grade and, in addition, would specify that charter schools are included in the ban.”

[I, Woodchipper]

“Liberal Lawmakers Want To Expand Censorship of flat earth theory and phrenology* to Charter Schools.
New bill makes a mockery of parents’ rights, school choice, and educational freedom.”

“A bill making its way through the Legislature would expand the state’s censorship of flat earth theory and phrenology all the way up through eighth grade and, in addition, would specify that charter schools are included in the ban.”

*irony alert phrenology has more scientific basis than trans ideology lol

[Liberty_Belle]

Too bad we can’t teach some actual science in schools. You know, the basics such as: be a gay as you want to be… it’s nobody else’s business but yours, a man cannot be a woman, and there’s no such thing as an invisible sky fairy that peeping toms all day to make sure you aren’t masturbating in the shower.

Oh, and there is no heaven nor hell. Dusty, long dead, dirt farmers made it up.

[Nardz]

None of what you said is science.

[Liberty_Belle]

Biology is science.

Debunking religious nonsense is practical application of the Scientific Method.

[Nardz]

“be a gay as you want to be…”
-debatably science, as no genetic/biological cause for homosexuality has been confirmed

“it’s nobody else’s business but yours”
-value judgement, not science

“a man cannot be a woman”
-okay, I was wrong, this one is science

“there’s no such thing as an invisible sky fairy that peeping toms all day to make sure you aren’t masturbating in the shower”
-untestable hypothesis, thus not science, and the belief that ‘god(s) is not’ is even more faith based than the belief that ‘god(s) is’

“there is no heaven nor hell. Dusty, long dead, dirt farmers made it up.”
-same truth as previous: not science

“Debunking religious nonsense is practical application of the Scientific Method.”
-it could be if you were intelligent enough to apply the scientific method rather than just repeating shallow, resentful pablum

[Ersatz]

Well, that was the response I was hoping to see to that comment

[Mickey Rat]

Liberty Belle: “No teaching religion in government schools, unless it is mine.”

[Liberty_Belle]

Almost.

“No teaching religion lies in government schools, unless it is mine in the fiction or creative writing section.”

[Truthfulness]

Yet you’re advocating for secular dogmatism. Repent.

[Mickey Rat]

As I wrote, you want your religion taught. Every faith thinks they possess the Truth. Yours is the one arrogant enough to think it can use government to advance its tenets.

The government is prohibited from teaching that matters of faith are “lies”.

[Truthfulness]

“For with God nothing shall be impossible.” – Luke 1:37

Your side cannot be granted this assertion when it comes to left-wing ideologies.

[SQRLSY One]

Read the concluding notes and ye will see how this (below) fits in with “grooming”…

STOP THE PRESSES! HOT NEWS FLASH!

INSSSSIGHT (Infallibly Noble, Succulently Scientific SQRLSY-Survey Intelligently Gathered Hot Takes) has conducted in-person surveys of almost 10 million Democrats very recently, and here are the findings! Today’s USA Democrats identify or agree with the below statements at the following rates (please ignore sum total mismatches with 100% due to rounding errors):

‘A) 0.15%: “Marxism is the One True Way, and North Korea is Utopia on Earth!”

‘B) 0.25%: “Antifa, the Lizard People, and BLM are the ONLY ones properly qualified to teach CRT to all of Our Children, all of which MUST be embraced by ALL schools!”

‘C) 0.65%: “The Republican Party must be outlawed ASAP, because they are grooming innocent young people to become Republicans! Also, chimpanzees and monkeys that have been grooming each other need to be prevented from performing ANY further grooming! Everyone knows that grooming is horrible!”

‘D) 2.3%: “Religion (especially Christian religion) must be kept out of the schools and public policy debates! However, the ironclad, unquestionable revelations to Democrats concerning the Earth Mother Gaia, and the facts that higher minimum wages don’t cause unemployment, and that forced-lower rents don’t cause homelessness, may NOT be questioned, because they are compassionate and self-evident, and do NOT come from God, so they are NOT religious beliefs.”

‘E) 17%: “I know that higher minimum wages cause more unemployment, and that forced-lower rents cause homelessness among the poor, but I get SOOOO much pleasure out of punishing the evil Republicans, that I consider the punishment inflicted on the poor, by these Democrat policies, to be just a bit of ‘collateral damage’. And WHY do the Republicans deserve punishment? As revenge for the damage that they do to the poor, by using statist womb control to force them to have larger families. Republicans thus thwart the ‘demographic transition’ for the poor, through policies that encourage ‘the rich will get richer, while the poor will have more children’. So we must PUNISH the Republicans for this! Revenge is ours!”

‘F) 30%: “I know that higher minimum wages cause more unemployment, and that forced-lower rents cause homelessness among the poor, but I can’t find any Democrat politicians that will vote my way on these issues, and I can’t bring myself to vote Republican or Libertarian, because most of them are so pro-life that they want to take over my womb, my wife’s womb, or my girlfriend’s womb.”

‘G) 50%: “I would LOVE to see a Grand Compromise whereby Democrats stops punishing the poor with higher minimum wages AND excessive licensing laws which ultimately cause more unemployment, and with forced-lower rents that ultimately cause homelessness among the poor, and Republicans cease and desist with anti-abortion and anti-birth-control laws that ALSO punish the poor! ALL statist policies that yank the ladders of success away from the poor should be removed! However, Republicans are fanatics who won’t listen to reason. So for now, I’ll keep on voting “D”, and the poor will keep on having more and more children, they’ll vote “D”, out-vote the “R” fanatics, and THEN we can perhaps finally get to a sensible-policies-place!”

“Give a little to get a little”, said a materialistic slutty girlfriend of mine way back when. See https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/love-language-youre-more-likely-170236564.html “If This Is Your Love Language, You’re More Likely to Divorce”… Couples treasure the following items, or express their love in the following ways, says this article: ‘1) gifts (presents), ‘2) quality time together, ‘3) acts of service (AKA work… Do the dishes already!), ‘4) words; I love you, etc., ‘5) physical touch (affection).
Beware of #1!!! Materialism, gifts, status symbols, conspicuous consumption!.. Designer this and designer that! “I spent more money on you than you spent on me!” A quick way to fights, broken relationships, and divorces! Achtung, Baby!

Well, I digress. “Give a little to get a little” can make a LOT more sense in politics!!!

Hey, look, assholes, see what the above polling data says!!! Combine categories E, F, and G, and 97% of Democrats would be open to having Republicans give a little, to get a little! “Team R” gives up being “compassionate” with other peoples’ wombs, AND with how THEY chose to raise THEIR children (all this BS about anyone raising their kids differently than I would is “grooming”), and “team D” gives up being “compassionate” with other peoples’ money! Only self-righteous assholery stands in our way!!!

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1642935737250111488?t=ZJ2tZEoVOXR0M41tUkK-Pw&s=19

Guys… OMG

Biden administration wants to change college biology curriculums to include “inclusive and scientifically accurate understandings of sex and gender.” They’re claiming that trans sex choosing is “science.”

“biology courses often inaccurately categorize sex and gender as binary” — Biden’s “science”

Yes, seriously.

[Link]

[I, Woodchipper]

“Liberal Lawmakers Want To Expand Basic Biology Censorship to Charter Schools.
New bill makes a mockery of parents’ rights, school choice, and educational freedom.”

“A bill making its way through the Legislature would expand the state’s censorship of Basic Biology all the way up through eighth grade and, in addition, would specify that charter schools are included in the ban.”

[InsaneTrollLogic]

I used to think young-earth creationists were the problem. Damn, that seems so long ago now. Now, the problem is coming from the anti-scientific authoritarian left.

[Dillinger]

>>If parents want their children to learn about LGBT issues in schools

parents are free to groom their own property as they choose.

[I, Woodchipper]

ah but this is not the actual position of the enemy.

they want the freedom and power to groom YOUR children as they choose and you should not have the same freedom or authority.

[Dillinger]

fuck those guys.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

“they want the freedom and power to groom YOUR children as they choose and you should not have the same freedom or authority.”
And they, and Scott Shackford, want you to pay for it.

[SQRLSY One]

Meanwhile, HERE is the kind of wasteful, STUPID (even evil) witch-hunts that happen when all of the witch-burners are left off of their leashes, to go and hunt “groomers”!!!!

https://reason.com/2023/04/03/poncha-springs-schoolhouse-daycare-kids-preschool-trial/

[Dillinger]

also I’m a little surprised you poked your head out what with the dead children in the Nashville hallways still not receiving coverage

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/wil_da_beast630/status/1642969912766509056?t=DCHVkPa4bLzM8ispF6Q4qQ&s=19

I really don’t care about drag qua drag, for adults – but the extent to which EVERY “respectable” organization is expected to virtue signal is pretty remarkable.

Is anyone even trying to argue this had some kind of ROI for the national country-western music awards?

[Link]

[Bill Dalasio]

This article isn’t exactly clear about something. Does the State of Florida have educational standards that schools have to meet? Are charter schools absolved of these standards generally? Or, if somebody wants to can they open The Fourth Reich Charter Academy, where they teach all about the need for national liebensraum, the glories of National Socialism and the similarities of Jews and vermin? This is not to equate gender theory with Nazism. But, I’m trying to figure out if there really is some new extension of state power the Florida GOP is initiating, or if Mr. Shackford is just upset that it’s his preferred ox getting gored.

[JasonT20]

This article isn’t exactly clear about something. Does the State of Florida have educational standards that schools have to meet?

Yes. My understanding is that these laws limiting discussion of sexual orientation, gender identity, and so on, state that schools are still responsible for teaching state standards. Whatever science and health standards touch on these topics is now all that schools can say about them. I haven’t looked closely enough at the standards to know what they say about them. (There may be standards on hygiene for health classes, and certainly on human sexual reproduction in the science standards for biology classes, for instance.)

With the universal vouchers, this becomes one of the two main differences between charter schools and private schools. Charters are much more free to structure their discipline systems as they want, hire, evaluate, and fire teachers as they want, and are not bound by most of a school district’s mandates. (In Florida, oversight of charters by school boards is mostly limited to financials/accounting, I believe.)

But, they still have to give their students the same tests that are required of regular public schools students designed to assess progress on the state education standards. Private schools accepting vouchers in Florida do not. Instead, they can choose from among several nationally recognized tests, and they report the results to a small research group at FSU that then compiles a report for the legislature. The individual school results are available, if you know where to look, but they are not really valid to compare between each other or with public schools, since you don’t know which school gave which tests. Nor are the results broken down by subgroups at the school level. And I don’t think they have to give students standardized science tests at all, unlike public schools.

That last part seems fairly convenient for the religious private schools that follow creationist science curricula (which are popular among homeschoolers). Of course, I would guess that most religious private schools do not, but there is no doubt that there are many voucher schools that do. And being able to weave religion throughout a school’s mission is the other main difference between private schools and charters. Charters, which cannot turn down students eligible to attend other than due to lack of space (in theory, at least), are still bound by restrictions on government endorsement of religion. They cannot impose religious moral codes upon their students the way that a religious private school can, lead students in mandatory prayer sessions, and the like.

I find it completely unsurprising that some conservatives will rail against what they call indoctrination in public schools that run off of taxpayer money, while they support sending taxpayer money to religious schools that are literally indoctrinating students in religious dogma. I am also completely unsurprised that some Florida conservatives are eager to limit parent choice by restricting what charter schools can teach.

[Fkthepostoffice]

“I find it completely unsurprising that some conservatives will rail against what they call indoctrination in public schools that run off of taxpayer money, while they support sending taxpayer money to religious schools that are literally indoctrinating students in religious dogma.”

You act as if it’s some hypocrisy/contradiction that a parent (read: taxpayer) be allowed to have those tax dollars go toward a private institution for their kid. Why? If they’re the taxpayer, why shouldn’t the parent get to decide how their kid is taught?

And you act as if the indoctrination in public schools is no serious issue while at the same time acting as though it’s a comparatively big issue to inculcate the children of religious families with religious views. As someone else in this thread said: “Gender mutilation is permanent. Learning the Earth is flat and 6000 years old is easily reversed and harms no one, not even the believer, unless they want to be a geologist or airline pilot.”

[Minadin]

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1642859855605014533

[JasonT20]

Here’s a link to the article that tweet references. https://www.foxnews.com/media/boston-childrens-hospital-director-calls-drastic-increase-capacity-gender-surgeries-minors

I found it interesting that the headline claimed that the hospital’s director “calls for drastic increase in capacity for gender surgery for minors” but then does not quote the director saying anything like that.

They pulled this from an article that he supposedly coauthored, which they didn’t link to:

“Physicians who provide GAC will face a greater burden due to constraints in certain states… work to criminalize GAC for adolescents,” the article stated. “Especially as certain states work to criminalize GAC for adolescents, there will be an increased flux of patients traveling to seek care in states with more open legislation.”

Gender Affirming Care can include surgery, but it is a lot more than that. Even just psychological counseling with no medications or any other medical interventions would constitute GAC, so the author did not back up the headline at all.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Progressives Across Nation Locked Out Of Accounts After CAPTCHA Asks ‘Select All Squares That Contain A Woman’
https://babylonbee.com/news/progressive-locked-out-of-bank-account-after-captcha-prompt-select-all-the-squares-that-contain-a-woman

[Johnathan Galt]

Limiting public funded communications to children to age appropriate materials is not censorship. Anyone claiming it is has just outed themselves as a groomer.

[raspberrydinners]

Newsflash- if you actually gave one flying fuck about “grooming” and indecency to kids you would all be up in arms about churches who have for DECADES molested innocent kids.

But hmm…somehow that never comes up. That priest you see every weekend is far more likely to groom and molest kids but for some reason you guys never care about that.

[Demosthenes of Athens]

So being opposed to teachers grooming kids suddenly means he doesn’t of the church doing the same? The article is about schools, so we’re talking about schools.

And you might want to stay on topic because I don’t think you’ll like where it leads. The churches have a lot of catching up to do in the abuse department if it wants to be compared to public school teachers:

https://go2tutors.com/teachers-more-likely-abuse-kids/

https://childrenstreatmentcenter.com/sexual-abuse-teachers/

[Ersatz]

hey rasp – why dont you ever mention the teachers as well?

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1642888156092538880?t=mEEbaO5-ci4xfg2G7ivluA&s=19

Like many of you, I watched video of the smiling police officer simply watching transgender militants attack people on the street. When confronted over her inaction she lied and pretended victims were engaged in ‘mutual combat’. She should have intervened and cited the individuals and allowed the justice system to take over. Her unilateral decision to laugh at citizens emboldens the criminals and, unfortunately, will cause previously law-abiding people to take the law into their own hands.

[Link]

[I, Woodchipper]

Bolsheviks to left of me, Marxists to the right

here i am…

[Longtobefree]

No reason to get excited
The thief, he kindly spoke
There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke
But, uh, but you and I, we’ve been through that
And this is not our fate
So let us stop talkin’ falsely now
The hour’s getting late, hey

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1642900249327939588?t=bAkwPz1u-ksyK0BzVxuozA&s=19

The Washington Post, has four articles on its website about the child pornography arrest of Patrick Wojahn, the mayor of College Park, Maryland.
Not one story mentions he is a Democrat and a longtime activist for gay rights and abortion.

[Link]

[TJJ2000]

Politicians REFUSE to give up their Commie-Education control???
Why is that not a surprise.

Remember that day the people amended the Constitution to allow the feds to “standardize”/indoctrinate the people’s education?

Yeah; me neither….
F’En [Na]tional So[zi]alists (syn; Nazi’s).

[JasonT20]

Remember that day the people amended the Constitution to allow the feds to “standardize”/indoctrinate the people’s education?

Yeah! That’s the states’ job! Each state gets to indoctrinate its children the way those that run their governments want to! FREEDOM!

[TJJ2000]

Maybe the State shouldn’t support Commie-Education/Indoctrination either. Maybe it should be left up to the free-market which humorously would make all these things just disappear into thin air.

[Nardz]

Totes credible…

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1642971731932397571?t=gVbumZqADYH4VgkIKH1vKQ&s=19

The 28-year-old who killed three children and three adults at a Christian school in Nashville last week fired 152 rounds, Nashville police said, adding that while they have yet to determine a motive, the shooter planned the attack “over a period of months”

[Link]

[MasterThief]

How in the hell did she get off that many shots without more deaths? Thank God she was a shitty shooter.

[I, Woodchipper]

If the bill passes, it will be a test of DeSantis’ actual commitment to school choice.

“school choice” is about getting out of public schools. Providing parents opportunity and even means (such as cash like Arizona or vouchers like other places) to do so.

Directing the curriculum of state-run schools is *part and parcel* to the whole concept. There’s nothing “anti school choice” about the state gov running it’s own schools.

Get rid of public schools entirely and this whole debate goes away.

[raspberrydinners]

School choice is about killing off public schools so all the rich connected buddies can open up charter schools and profit off it.

Nothing more, nothing less. Anyone who doesn’t see that has their head in the sand.

[TJJ2000]

What’s humorous is you see that as a bad thing.
“It’s so bad that people would have to *EARN* what they want from others instead of just pointing Gov-GUNS at them.” /s

[Social Justice is neither]

Fuck off you lying pedo. If you’re going to write delusional, biased takes then it’s only fair to return the framing in kind.

[raspberrydinners]

Cry more snowflake. Reality has this weird way of getting you guys all hot and bothered.

[sarcasmic]

To my audiophile friends, latest from Yeah Yeah Yeahs.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fSaPr-G9JUY&feature=share

[raspberrydinners]

Oh what? Fascism isn’t good because now it’s coming after little old ME?

Say it ain’t so.

[Fkthepostoffice]

Charter schools are public schools. Public schools are funded with public dollars (via coercion and threats of violence/imprisonment). The public schools are not entitled to any of my money, but insofar as they have it, their purview should be to teach in the most politically neutral way possible (i.e. teach about math, science, literacy and physical exercise) rather than encouraging young males to cut off their weiners and feel guilty about stuff their ancestors may or may not have done to people who are no longer alive who may have done similar things to other people generations prior. Opposing the sexual indoctrination of children in schools funded by the force of government is not an un-libertarian position.

An easy solution is to pass school choice, which would make it far easier for parents to get their kids away from this aforementioned sexual indoctrination. Follow that up by defunding public schooling.