Trump Indictment Could Be the Jolt His Flailing 2024 Campaign Needs
Plus: Evidence that social media causes teen health problems "isn't convincing," more states ban gender transition treatments for minors, and more...

It's happening. A grand jury in New York voted yesterday to indict former President Donald Trump on criminal charges. This makes him the first former American president to be charged with a crime. And it could be just the jolt his so-far-lackluster 2024 presidential campaign needs.
The indictment is still under seal, so we don't yet know specifics about the charges. But according to "two people with knowledge of the matter," the indictment against Trump contains more than two dozen counts, per The New York Times.
— Alvin Bragg (@ManhattanDA) March 30, 2023
The charges—filed by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg—are expected to be related to a years-old payment that Trump directed "fixer" Michael Cohen to pay to porn star Stormy Daniels. (For more details and backstory about the payment, see this previous Reason Roundup.) The payment, made in 2016, led to a criminal conviction for Cohen. But the Federal Election Commission decided against pursuing further action against Trump over the payment.
The fact that federal authorities didn't see room for a case here makes the evidence of criminal wrongdoing seem weak, lending credence to Trump's claims that this is more of a politically motivated crusade against him than anything else. The fact that it's coming now, after Trump announced he's running for president again in 2024, is also raising suspicions.
Whether the case will harm or help Trump's 2024 chances is unclear—there are decent arguments for both outcomes—but it's undeniable that this could affect the 2024 election. Already, conservatives are rallying around Trump like they haven't in quite some while.
Rallying Republicans
"This is Political Persecution and Election Interference at the highest level in history," Trump declared in a statement, alleging that "the Radical Left Democrats" have had it out for him "from the time I came down the golden escalator at Trump Tower." He went on to post several more statements on TruthSocial last night:
It's not just Trump and his biggest lackeys framing this as political persecution or an attack on election integrity; a lot of Republican members of Congress are making such claims as well.
"Alvin Bragg has irreparably damaged our country in an attempt to interfere in our Presidential election," commented House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. "The American people will not tolerate this injustice, and the House of Representatives will hold Alvin Bragg and his unprecedented abuse of power to account."
"This is more about revenge than it is about justice," said Nikki Haley, the former governor of South Carolina, who is herself running for the Republican nomination.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis—Trump's chief rival for the nomination—announced that his state "will not assist in an extradition request" in the Trump case.
Even conservatives who aren't Trump supporters expressed qualms.
For instance, former Rep. Peter Meijer (R-Mich.)—who voted to impeach Trump—reupped a statement from last week: "We're going to indict a former President for, essentially, misdemeanor falsification of business records? We're crossing the Rubicon for that? That seems like f—ing weak sauce." Noting that "the feds looked at and declined to move forward on" charges against Trump related to the Daniels payment, Meijer continued: "There are other more serious cases against Trump brought by more sober parties. Alvin Bragg fulfilling a campaign promise to target Trump on these shaky grounds is an historic misstep."
Some Republicans were disappointed in these types of reactions.
"Why can't a single one of Trump's challengers get this right?!" tweeted Heath Mayo, of the reformist conservative group Principles First. "It's literally the easiest lay-up he could possibly give you and no one seems able to take it. Easy: 'The rule of law is paramount & no one is above it. I respect our legal system. The outcome will speak for itself.'"
"Seems to me that no one outraged or pretending outrage on behalf of Donald Trump actually tries to claim he's not guilty," Bill Kristol tweeted.
OK, I'm sick of all the pretend indignation by Republicans terrified of Trump and/or Trump supporters.
I dare them all: Say you believe Trump is innocent.
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) March 31, 2023
Meanwhile, Bill O'Reilly suggested that Trump's prosecution would distract from more important issues:
.@BillOReilly joins @ChrisCuomo to weigh in on the indictment of Donald Trump: "Now, we're going to have more hatred. … We've got a lot of problems to solve here in America, but they're not gonna be solved. It's gonna be all about Trump."
Watch #CUOMO: https://t.co/s8z9kEhjMw pic.twitter.com/QZNTJBkmja
— NewsNation (@NewsNation) March 31, 2023
But the Republicans rushing to Trump's defense vastly outnumbered other types of responses. And this "scramble to come to Trump's defense" might prove "a pivotal moment" in Trump's comeback, suggests Time's Molly Ball:
Just a few months ago, Republicans' disappointing performance in the midterms marked the third straight national election Trump tanked for the GOP, and a new consensus began to form: he was weak, a loser, yesterday's news. With at least five civil and criminal investigations percolating and a new generation of candidates in the mix, it was finally time for Republicans to cut the cord.
But when the time came to actually stand up to him, Trump's primary rivals and political enablers were too cowardly or calculating to throw much of a punch.
While Trump's campaign launch was lackluster, the indictment may prove the jolt it needs among his own party.
Indeed, "Trump's indictment…breathes new life into his favorite campaign tactic—running as the aggrieved victim of a Democratic-run Deep State hellbent on keeping him and his supporters out of power," writes Mark Niquette at Bloomberg. "Just when Republicans were beginning to believe that Trump was vulnerable if he ran a campaign about all the people he believes are out to punish him, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg gave the one-term ex-president no reason to change his tune."
Fox News hosts who had been souring on Trump (at least in private) also rushed publicly to his defense yesterday.
Democrats, Media Want More
Meanwhile, a lot of Democrats have been expressing variations on the same sentiment—look, no one is above the law!—while suggesting that Trump could or should be indicted for more serious transgressions.
"No one is above the law," tweeted Rep. Chuy Garcia (D-Ill.). "Still, the former President's crimes go far beyond what he has been indicted for here."
"No one in this country is above the law—including former President Trump," said Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-N.Y.) in a statement, calling the Manhattan indictment "only the beginning" of how Trump should be held accountable. "It's time that we ensure Trump is banned from running for any public office again and from there, finally take action to fix our democracy."
Some commentators suggested that this indictment could somehow get the ball rolling on other charges. "Other pending cases involving Jan. 6, classified records, and election interference are much more straightforward," wrote Slate's Mark Joseph Sten. "Perhaps Bragg's move will embolden other prosecutors to bring charges related to the former president's alleged misconduct in these arenas. If so, that domino effect may be the case's most important legacy."
That's not really how prosecutions work. But it is a good example of the liberal wishcasting around this prosecution.
Other media outlets suggested this prosecution was a mistake precisely because it might detract from other, more serious prosecutions.
"The legal case against him in Fulton County, Georgia, where he is accused of interfering with election results looks much stronger. If Donald Trump is to be prosecuted, it should be for something that cannot be dismissed as a technicality," tweeted The Economist.
"Of the long list of alleged violations, the likely charges on which a grand jury in New York state voted to indict him are perhaps the least compelling," editorialized The Washington Post. "A failed prosecution over the hush-money payment could put them all in jeopardy, as well as provide Mr. Trump ammunition for his accusations of 'witch hunt.'"
FREE MINDS
Evidence that social media causes teen health problems "isn't convincing." Statician Aaron Brown takes a comprehensive look at the data that New York University professor Jonathan Haidt uses to blame teen mental health issues on social media.
I admire Haidt's skill and integrity as a writer and researcher. He qualifies his view and describes complexities in the areas he studies. He acknowledges that teen depression has multiple causes. He doesn't make unsupported claims, and you'll never find bland assertions that "studies prove" in his work, which is regrettably common in mainstream accounts.
And he's a model of transparency. Haidt posted a Google Doc in February 2019 listing 301 studies (to date) from which he has derived his conclusions, he began inviting "comments from critics and the broader research community."
I don't know Haidt personally and didn't receive an invitation to scrutinize his research four years ago. But more recently, I decided to do just that. I found that the evidence not only doesn't support his claim about teen health and mental health; it undermines it."
Go here for Brown's detailed explanation for why the evidence isn't convincing.
FREE MARKETS
More states are banning gender transition care for minors. In Kentucky, both houses—where Republicans hold majorities—voted to override Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear's veto of Senate Bill 150, which prohibits any sort of gender transition treatments for those under age 18.
The Kentucky bill—which USA Today deemed "one of country's strictest anti-trans bills"—also says teachers can't have conversations about sexual orientation or gender identity with students of any age, and requires schools to ban transgender students from using bathrooms associated with their gender identities.
In neighboring West Virginia, Gov. Jim Justice signed a bill banning gender transition treatments for minors. Like the Kentucky bill (and legislation that has passed in other states), this includes not just surgical procedures but puberty blockers and hormone therapy.
QUICK HITS
The Free Speech Coalition just published a report on the financial discrimination sex workers and other adult industry members are facing at alarming rates. https://t.co/bIl4agzBfJ
— Alison Boden (@AlisonBodenFSC) March 30, 2023
• The "digital blackface" argument was "transparent, racebaiting, outrage fodder even when it was new; now, it is all of that and tired," writes Kat Rosenfield at Unherd.
• Elon Musk, Andrew Yang, and Steve Wozniak have proposed an A.I. pause. It's a bad idea—and it won't work anyway, writes Reason's Ron Bailey.
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It's happening.
THE BEGINNING OF THE END.
It’s all fun and games until it’s you they’re after.
I would have figured Conquest, would have looked a little scarier than Alan Bragg.
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Leonard Cohen
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HAIR:……………………………………Medium
WEIGHT:………………………………Medium
HEIGHT:………………………………Medium
DISTINGUISHING FEATURES…None
NUMBER OF FINGERS:………..Ten
NUMBER OF TOES………………Ten
INTELLIGENCE…………………….Medium
What did you expect?
Talons?
Oversize incisors?
Green saliva?
Madness?
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It’s happening.
Guess there’s a reboot in the near future.
The reboot is actually this: The Donald is now finally taking back His Big Lie about stolen erections! In order to curry favor with jurors (some of whom actually support honest erections and democracy) for His upcoming trial, He now concedes defeat!
STOP THE PRESSES!!! INSERT HOTTEST NEWS FLASH!!! BREAKING NEWS!!!
Trump finally (Sort of) concedes!
My most-senior inside contact at the Shadow White House has surreptitiously slipped me an advance copy of the ex-lame-duck POTUS’s concession speech. Without further ado, here it is:
Friends, non-foreigner-type True Americans, and all who Make America Great Again, lend me your ears! I come to bury Biden, not to praise him. Biden and his minions stole the elections, and we must dishonor that! To Make America Great Again, we must invent the most fantastic, fabulous, YUUUGEST BIGNESS EVAH SEEN, in the ways of truly factually fictitious, but Spiritually and Metaphorically True, NEW Republican ballots! Because I have directed My Generals and My Scientists to research the current and past performance, efficacy, and patriotism of one-party states, versus multi-party states. As I have directed them to, My impartial, unbiased, data-driven council of My Generals and My Scientists have determined that yea verily, one-party states work better! Therefore, we must all strive for the Glorious Day, when America becomes a one-party state, under the One True Party, the Republican Party!
But for now, the courts have sided with Biden and his camel-toe, and Antifa, BLM, and all the Marxist terrorists. We must let the courts have it their way, with mayo on the side. I mean, with Mao Tse Tung on the side, but without the Proud Boys standing back and standing by. Thank you, Proud Boys, for having stood by me. Also, thank you, Steve Bannon, Vladimir Putin, Kim Ill Dung, and Pepe the Stolen-Intellectual-Property Frog. Pepe, watch out for Miss Piggy, she and her “pre-nuptial contracts” will clean your clock, just like Melania is set to clean mine soon! But I digest.
So we can’t disrepute what the nasty courts have said, or there might be civil war. Sad! The courts aren’t very American these days! And if you don’t like what I just said? Well, I’m sorry that you feel that way!
So congratulations to Biden for having stolen the elections! This is America, so we must properly honor the decisions of the courts, in a dishonorable way! Biden can come and live with us in the White House, per the wishes of the courts. He can pour our covfefe for us, for Steve Bannon, Pepe the Frog, and I, and Jill can make sandwiches for us. We promise to call him POTUS, and her, First Lady! POTUS of covfefe, and First Lady of sandwiches, that is! Hey Biden! Get yer butt over here! Pepe needs some covfefe!
That setup will get us by for a little while! Meanwhile, we can schedule the NEW run-off elections, this time without any fraudulent so-called “Democratic” votes being allowed, and we can do this RIGHT the next time!
Meanwhile, congratulations to Joe Stalin-Biden, on being elected POTUS of pouring covfefe for Pepe!
No one read this.
It's time that we ensure Trump is banned from running for any public office again"
when they say this it is clear that it is not about the rule of law but to punish those they disagree with
Well, it is the flipside of the argument that this potential prosecution (and all the others) is a "witch-hunt": It is a pre-judgement of the situation.
The difference is, they think he's done everything he's accused of, and you believe he is innocent of everything he's accused of.
“Well, it is the flipside of the argument that this potential prosecution (and all the others) is a “witch-hunt”:…”
That’s not an “argument"; that’s a factual statement, and it takes a TDS-addled shit-pile to claim otherwise.
Awwww, is your daddy in troubs? You fucking politician worshipping fuckstain. Swallow that bullet
Some say that Der TrumpfenFuhrer is politically dead! I just don’t know any more…
However, I do know that He’s trying to bring back from the dead, His next running mate! I have uncovered a secret Love Poem by Der TrumpfenFuhrer, along those HIGHLY poetic lines…
https://reason.com/2020/09/28/trumps-tiny-tax-bill/
Leona Helmsley: “Taxes are for the little people”.
Der TrumpfenFuhrer: “Laws about nuclear and other national security secrets are for the little people. Ass are laws about holding and honoring honest erections also.” TRUE LOVE is going on here between these two LoveBirds!!!
Mash Letter from The Donald to Leona Helmsley
Roses are red, Violets are blue, Won’t you come here, And join My Crew? Won’t you please join My Quest? The honest taxpayers, to molest? I like to collect babes, as if they were Cocker Spaniels, You’d look quite nice, right next to Stormy Daniels! You’d be quite sexy, in My YUUGE harem, With My BIGLY contributors, I like to share ‘em! “Taxes are for the little people” For a campaign slogan, it sounds GREAT! Won’t you help Me fool the greedy sheeple? To their suffering, you and I, we could masturbate! Brad Parscale, My old campaign pal, Wants to kill himself, what killer style! Won’t you stay with Me a while, And be My campaign gal?
ChatGPT ruined The Donald's Love-Poem indents! Now THAT is BLASPHEMOUS!!!
Let's fix that, shall we? Lest The Donald strike us all down?
Mash Letter from The Donald to Leona Helmsley
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Won’t you come here,
And join My Crew?
Won’t you please join My Quest?
The honest taxpayers, to molest?
I like to collect babes, as if they were Cocker Spaniels,
You’d look quite nice, right next to Stormy Daniels!
You’d be quite sexy, in My YUUGE harem,
With My BIGLY contributors, I like to share ‘em!
“Taxes are for the little people”
For a campaign slogan, it sounds GREAT!
Won’t you help Me fool the greedy sheeple?
To their suffering, you and I, we could masturbate!
Brad Parscale, My old campaign pal,
Wants to kill himself, what killer style!
Won’t you stay with Me a while,
And be My campaign gal?
AI would definitely be an improvement over you.
TDS-addled shit -pile heard from!
You fucking fraud. Fake ass libertarian worshipping a pol like he’s a religious figure. How big of a loser does one have to be to submit and believe everything a worthless NYC LIBERAL has to say? You done got fooled, bubba. Doubt it’s the 1st or last. Go say a useless prayer for your daddy, fuckstain.
"...Fake ass libertarian worshipping a pol like he’s a religious figure..."
TDS-addled shit-pile equate appreciating the most libertarina POTUS we've had for the last hundred years with "worship".
Stupidity or dishonesty? It the case of this shit-pile, probably both.
Make your family proud and your dog happy, asshole; fuck off and die.
You first, loser. C'mon, ya know ya want to. Trump as a libertarian. Jesus you truly are a deluded fucking mental patient. Take pills. Lots and lots of them.
Fuck off Kiddie Raper. You’re too gutless to post on your normal Pedo account.
This guy thinks that the Tariff Master in Chief is a libertarian! His committment to free markets is something to behold!
This TDS-addled shit-pile thinks focusing on one issue constitutes a rebuttal.
Make your family proud and your dog happy, asshole; fuck off and die.
Stop lying and go kill yourself. You’re a child rapist and are a valueless piece of shit.
Hey Elmer EvilBahnFuhrer, Mentally Slower-and-Lower-Than-Whale-Shit...
Conservaturds making friends, gathering votes, and influencing people by... PEDDLING KOOL-AID AND SUICIDE!!! How's it workin' for ya, servant of the Evil One?
EvilBahnFuhrer, drinking EvilBahnFuhrer Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…
He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
His Hero is Jimmy Jones,
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jim-Jones
Loves death and the dying moans,
Then he likes to munch their bones!
Has no thoughts that help the people,
He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
Kool-Aid man, please listen,
You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!
A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/
Hey EvilBahnFuhrer …
If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
Who would feed you? Who’s tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!
wow, he's a bit unhinged. Even worse than sqrsy
He doesn't waste nearly the bandwidth.
I don't necessarily believe he is innocent. However, given the historical deference and tolerance shown to not just former Presidents but even former nominees, I would argue you'd need a particularly egregious crime and a strong popular support to go forward with criminal prosecution. Without that, any accusations of it being politically motivated don't just seem possible, they seem probable and plausible.
Just some things that have been ignored:
Election rigging (Kennedy & Johnson)
Targeting of political enemies (Nixon)
Sexual Assault (Clinton)
Political Corruption (probably everybody)
Without seeing the actual charges, I don't think this is it. Seems like a stupid play by a idealogue DA. However, in a paerfect world, the vast majority of former pols would end up behind bars for their actual crimes.
Of course you don't, TDS-addled shit-pile
Do you know what libertariaism means? I can tell you what it means to me: stay the fuck out of my personal and financial life. Tell me how Trump accomplished these things, you cretin.
1) DeVos
2) Gorsuch
3) Kavanuagh
4) Ajit Pai, end net price fixing
5) Major reduction in the growth of regulations.
6) Dow +35%
7) Unemployment at 3.0% (!)
8) The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high
9) Got repeal of the national medical insurance mandate.
10) Withdrawal from Paris climate agreement.
11) Not sure about the tax reform; any "reform" that leaves me subisdizing Musk's customers is not what I hoped for. Let Musk run a company for once. But cutting taxes is good.
12) Pulled support for the $13 billion Hudson Tunnel project.
13) More than 16,000 jobs have been cut from the federal leviathan
14) MIGHT have a deal to de-nuke NK.
15) Killed moonbeam’s choo-choo
16) Supported and signed First Step Act.
And finally:
17) Still making lefties steppin and fetchin like their pants is on fire and their asses are catchin'
To repeat, I did not vote for the guy; he's a blow-hard and a loose cannon, but by accident or design, he's doing better than any POTUS I can remember.
You love tour tarriffs. Go vote for Bernie, you socialist cuck. Kavenaugh.. the biggest defender of executibe power on the bench is a libertarian?! News to me, idiot!
So no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
You forgot the right to try act.
TY.
And tax cuts, first step act..
"And tax cuts, first step act.."
Already listed
Abraham accords.
Moved the capitol of Israel to where it belongs.
Putin didn't take any land
NATO members paying more for their own defense.
U.S respected in the world.
Look moron, I'll give ya Gorsuch and Paris. Trump caused the Dow to go up? What's unemployment right now? Just shut the fuck, man. Like you are legitimately a stupid person. I will make a list about 20X longer of the non-libertarian things he did. Just admit you're a conservative cuck and move on. You believe in American Exceptionalism and all the other bullshit that conservatives believe. You ain't a libertarian, you're a fraud.
“…I will make a list about 20X longer of the non-libertarian things he did…”
Which, of course, does not constitute a rebuttal. Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shit-pile
I will make a list about 20X longer of the non-libertarian things he did.
Then DO IT or shut the fuck up.
"Then DO IT or shut the fuck up."
Which still isn't the point. Nowhere did I claim Trump was a libertarian, nor that he was perfect,
But if you look at history, you're going to have to go back to Silent Cal to find any other POTUS who did so much to leave me the fuck alone.
And you’re a traitor. Kill yourself.
Make the list. 260 to start.
Meanwhile your God soros was the primary funder of Bidens campaign and democrats in general.
“You believe in American exceptionalism….”
Yeah. So?
1. He is the POTUS who let debt outpace GDP for the 1st time
2. President Trump signed legislation and approved executive actions costing $7.8 trillion over the decade—compared to $5.0 trillion for President Obama and $6.9 trillion for President Bush
3. CBO projected the cumulative 2017–2027 budget deficits would be $10.0 trillion. When he left office four years later, CBO’s projected deficits for the same period were $13.9 trillion
4. Tariffs, tariffs and more tariffs
5. Banning people from military service for gender identity
6. Border Wall
7. Appointed judges to overturn women's healthcare choices
8. Death penalty
9. Surveillance over privacy
10. Supports "Use of waterboarding and a helluva lot worse"
11. Travel ban
12. Stimulus checks
13. Thinks only certain people should be allowed to marry
14. Went from releasing drug prisoners to calling for execution of dealers
Could I go on? Yes, but since many on your list are either non-libertarian or false, 14 trumps yours.
So the TDS-addled shit-pile still has no answer? Imagine my surprise
Not 20x longer
Lol. And half of this shit is false dem creates narratives.
Please cite specifics. Not vague accusations.
You shitbrain, I have always taken down both sides. Fuck any partisan Dem or GOPer everywhere and forever. Partisans are morons, but you resemble that comment
"...I have always taken down both sides..."
“Nihilists! Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.”
Sevo's a liar. It's all he ever does. Pretty sure Sevo fucked his own child too
So the TDS-addled shit-pile still has no answer and now just flings poo? Imagine my surprise.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
No Shreek, you’re the liar and you already outed yourself as a child molester. I hope to dox you someday. See how you fare with law enforcement, or perhaps revenge from some angry father.
Youre a liar. Your a scumbug pomitical loyalist pretending. One issue. Lying sack of Trump worshipping piece of shit
Fuck off and die, lying TDS-addled shit-pile.
Liar conservative
So no answer? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
If you’re a democrat, you’re a traitor. It’s time for you to go. All of you.
I loathe Dems, ya fucking dolt. I also loathe Trump, ya fucking moron. My friends and I have this saying GMTP. It means Gun Mouth Trigger Pull. You need to try this
TDS-addled shit-pile now claiming "both sides!!!!"
Shrike, why do you continue to lie? You defend Biden at all cost.
Then you’re a collaborator. And also a proven pedophile. If you won’t kill yourself, then you should be executed for your crimes.
I mean, really really go for it. Go all in. Show your commitment to your savior. He may die for your sins later so you will be forgiven.
You're pretty manic this morning, shriek--the principal chase you off the school grounds again?
The 7 year old he had chained up must have escaped and he isn’t getting any.
"I don’t necessarily believe he is innocent..."
Of what?
You have a good point in general, but gotta say I don’t think Nixon’s crimes were ignored. They were pardoned.
The fact that his actions were seemingly norm-breaking enough his own party wouldn’t support him, I would argue the ‘pardon’ is proof of just how tolerant politicians and the criminal system have typically been of misbehavior by a President, former President, or former Presidential Nominee.
I don’t like Trump. I don’t want him to run. I definitely don’t want him to be the nominee. The willingness of one party to openly weaponize every aspect of government and law against one person without a serious crime, rock-solid case, and significant popular support should scare everyone.
“I don’t like Trump. I don’t want him to run. I definitely don’t want him to be the nominee. The willingness of one party to openly weaponize every aspect of government and law against one person without a serious crime, rock-solid case, and significant popular support should scare everyone.”
Including you, but that seems a bit more than your TDS allows now, doesn’t it?.
Unlike the crimes against Trump in 2016 by Obama and Biden. Ignored. At least while you people are still in a position to say anything.
The walls are closing in! BOMBSHELL!
Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
The Grand Jury has acted upon the facts and the law.
.
No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence.
.
Hopefully, the former President will peacefully respect the system, which grants him that right.
Not at all surprised, this coming from a lifer politician.
Yes... what does anyone expect from a Soros negro clown? We have one here in St.Louis Kim Gardner who the State attorney general is filing paperwork to get rid of her. Most incompetent negro clown of all time. Prosecutors not showing up for murder trials believe that?
Why does being black have to do with it? There are plenty of Marxist clowns of every pigmentation. The kinky thing that matters is that they’re all pinko on the inside.
oh do we have to prove innocence now?
Man, show trials really are going to be more common I guess.
I’m fine with that. When Biden is deposed and we have a real president, there are plenty of legitimate crimes the democrats have committed that keep getting overlooked. Time to start the prosecutions. Obama, Pelosi, Biden, and many Obama and a Biden administration underlings could be thrown in prison. And should be thrown in prison.
The democrats have declared war on America. Time to get rid of them.
Does anyone seriously believe Trump could get a fair trial in New York City?
Maybe aspiring to be the world's greatest asshole has a few minor drawbacks?
Are you speaking from experience?
You just got all stiff hearing about the world's greatest asshole, huh? You really want to stick your tongue up there and find out, right?
So no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
Dude, any actual libertarian reading the shit you post knows you are a fraud and a dumb goon. There are many books on political philosophy, economic philosophy, etc. Have you ever read a book? You should give it a whirl. I suggest maybe starting with Rothbard or Hayak as a jumping off point so that you might actually have a chance of sounding like you know something. Maybe mix in some Friedman just for shits
Misdirection and still no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
I gave you a list, cuntface. You ignore like anything that discredits your daddy. You're a fucking liar and a loser in life.
"I gave you a list, cuntface..."
TDS-addled shit-pile can't seem to understand:
1) Shit-pile's "list" is a pile of vague accusations
2) Shit-pile has yet to provide the name of a POTUS who did more for liberty in the last 100 years.
It's possible that TDS made this shit-pile as stupid as he is, or that his stupidity is the cause of his TDS.
Or probably both: Fuck off and die, asshole.
You don’t know anything about being libertarian. It’s pretty much the exact opposite philosophy of being an unrepentant child molester, like you are.
I k ow psychopaths tend to be empty inside, and often being angry and depressive in middle age. Seize upon that and end your own life. You may find the peace your young. Victims will now never know because of you.
Is an asshole exempt from due process?
He is if he's Trump.
Of course not. If you believe in the rule of law.
Trump, however, does not, which is almost certainly why he's truly afraid of his prospects in a Manhattan criminal court. He believes you only get the justice you purchase. He believes the judges he appoints owe him loyalty (and those he did not will be biased against him). He believes NYC jurors are racist and bigoted.
Which is, in hindsight, possibly a good reason to avoid antagonising everyone when you're climbing over them on your way to the top.
"Trump, however, does not,.."
Cite missing, TDS-addled shit-pile.
Where in the 4-7 amendments is there an exception to those who don't believe in the rule of law, or any exceptions for that matter?
Additionally, I don't want trump as the nominee, mainly because I think it helps the Dems, but basically, they pretty much just assured Trump will get nominated because this is such a weak fucking case, additionally, Clinton can be charged with the same thing, as she tried to hide her payment for the fake Steele dossier by claiming at as a legal expense through her charitable foundation (in fact, that is pretty clearly more blatant than what they're accusing Trump of). Selective enforcement is no enforcement, it's tyranny.
"...additionally, Clinton can be charged with the same thing, as she tried to hide her payment for the fake Steele dossier by claiming at as a legal expense through her charitable foundation (in fact, that is pretty clearly more blatant than what they’re accusing Trump of)..."
And much, much more. Starting with the establishment of a private server for gov't comm to avoid access to her gov't comms as provided under the FOIA.
Lock up assholes said no actual libertarian ever.
That doesn’t change the fact that the rule of law and American jurisprudence demands that you treat every accused party as innocent until proven guilty. The exact opposite of what Nancy “Insider Trading is ok when I do it” Pelosi, and all you fucking morons that constantly bleat about the loud mouth reality show host have done for 6 goddamn years.
It's not insider trading. That involves actually being an "insider" in a business. Pelosi uses regulation and investigation or the threat thereof to pressure companies, make stock purchases, and manipulate the market. That is far, far worse.
the gears and the cogs in the machinery of facsism
Fair point.
Absolutely. But, as I mentioned above, Trump doesn't.
And that's proof that you don't believe in consistency, but a double standard instead.
If ONS didn't have double standards, ONS would have none at all. ONS is a TDS-addled lefty shit-pile, regardless of claims otherwise.
Leftists like Mike and Jeff will pretend he can.
Dershowitz said he should demand a move to Upstate NY or Long Island as Manhattan is incapable of a fair trial.
"...jury of his peers..." Difficult one, that.
Yeah, finding TDS addled shits like you will be hard for the prosecutors.
Why not? He has money for the best lawyers, his lawyers will get their chance to challenge and remove jurors. They can even ask to have the trial moved or a jury brought in from outside. Plenty of defendants go to trials with a lot less.
So that’s how you defend political prosecutions? And don’t worry, plenty of democrat filth in NY ready to be activist jurors to convict Orange Man Bad.
You ever suck Donnie's cock, faggot?
So still no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
Still no answer to whether or you suck cock. Why am I not surprised?
Gee, TDS-addled shit pile now simply lying rather than answering the question. No surprise.
Fuck off and die.
Wrist slitting works better vertically. Just a head's up. You may not know that as you are a bumbling idiot retard.
I wouldn’t know. Why don’t you demonstrate for us.
Youre flailing shrike. Biden doing that badly huh?
You do have a phallic fixation there, Shrike.
Could simply be abysmal stupidity.
You need to kill yourself right away. You’re an oxygen thief and are contributing to global warming when you exhale.
Trump has the money for lawyers, but he also has a long, very public history of being a terrible client, in that he won’t keep his mouth shut and stop saying shit that hurts his own case.
I wonder if she applies the "no-one is above the law" standard to illegal aliens. I mean aren't they breaking the law by entering the USA illegally?
I would also ask her if her husband should have been more seriously punished for his drunk driving and serious accident or if her husband was given special treatment for being married to someone so politically powerful?
Hey, pussy fraud. You sit in here and accuse of everyone of being a leftist, but you NEVER say anything bad about Trump. Not once. Because youre a lying pile of shit. Hope you die!
We will remember that when we put her on trial after Biden is deposed.
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Probably the beginning of the end for the democrat party. Americans are fed up with these territorial residents destroying our country.
As long as they can print unlimited number of "mailed-in" ballots, we're stuck with them.
When you have a party, whose motto is "By Any Means Necessary", and their main means are lying, cheating and stealing, honest elections are impossible without strong election integrity laws.
And they wanted to pass "easy cheating" laws.
I predict this comment section is going to be an absolute shit show, and also feature a number of pages of grey boxes at times.
I didn't even get past the first subthread to be proven right. Oi.
The rule of law is paramount & no one is above it. I respect our legal system. The outcome will speak for itself.
Even when it's clearly weaponized.
"Trump Indictment Could Be the Jolt His Flailing 2024 Campaign Needs"
And here we have the real motivation - fear of DeSantis winning the nomination.
Except, of course for the fact that Trump's campaign is far from "flailing".
Polling puts him ahead of every announced, and unannounced candidate.
"No one is above the law," tweeted Rep. Chuy Garcia (D-Ill.). "Still, the former President's crimes go far beyond what he has been indicted for here."
This is the same guy who supports a candidate for Chicago mayor who owes thousands to the City for nonpayment of his water bill.
Fucking hypocrite.
"No is above the law," could be rephrased as, "We can prosecute anyone we want."
This isn't and shouldn't be a crime. If Trump dropped a giant bag of cash on Cohen's desk and said, "Go shut that bitch up before she hurts my campaign," that's perfectly legal. There is zero limit on the amount of money you can spend on your own campaign.
But also, if there's any plausible theory for why this payment is made that is inconsistent with helping the campaign, that means it's not going to be provable beyond a reasonable doubt. And Trump is a persona with business interests and a wife, so there's plenty of reasons he'd want to pay for an NDA independent of helping his political campaign. This whole prosecution is preposterous and clearly politically motivated.
helping the campaign,
this is such a BS idea every thing every politician does is to help their campaign including lying about lap tops and who their kids work with
You seem rather hot under the collar about something which isn't even a crime in Illinois.
Yeah, holding principles will sometimes do that, but you'd never know it.
Factio Democratica delenda est.
We need more trump talk!
"It's happening. "
Who do you think is the hardest right now? Shrike, Tony, Jeffy, or ENB?
The WALLLLSS!! FINALLY CLOSING IN!! WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!
Breaking accounting rules!
Maybe - - - -
Yeah, and a late library book return!
Let’s not get crazy. Or there might be a visit from a certain Mr. Bookman.
It doesn't even make sense. NDAs are literally legal documents. Payments made are legal payments.
In-kind campaign contribution?
Isn't that what every leftist candidate gets when ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. whenever they "report" on anything political, to the tune of millions of dollars?
Where are those indictments?
They are happening on a constant basis.
Still, the former President's crimes go far beyond what he has been indicted for here.
A statement could be made of every president, if indictments were ever forthcoming for anyone else.
A statement could be made of every
presidentperson, if indictments were ever forthcoming for anyone else.What you just said is illegal.
everyone breaks three laws a day.
Slackers, I try for at least 8.
Shrike tries to keep it under 8.
i try for more.
Way more than three laws. Three FELONIES, at least according to the book.
Probably a hell of a lot more misdemeanors.
Many right wing commenters here break at least three laws of logical anrgumebt every day.
No libertarian should ever advocate for the unequal application of justice. Yet here we are.
The ol' dependable, "other cars were speeding" argument.
The ol' dependable "I don't care - it's Trump" argument.
Selective enforcement is not enforcement but tyranny.
Of the long list of alleged violations, the likely charges on which a grand jury in New York state voted to indict him are perhaps the least compelling...
Still, it will be fun to watch an elderly Geraldo eventually looking in his vault.
Controlling language.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/31/language-is-not-our-master/
Today, many people suffer from the delusion that language creates reality and that, consequently, you can change reality by changing the language we use.
Words and ideas are dangerous
A man that says he's a woman, is a woman, and if you are an actual woman who disagrees with that, you are a hateful bigot transphobe (who is therefore evil) and he (she, you bigot!) has the right to violently assault you and the trans allies will look the other way because he (she!) is on the side of good, and the woman is an evil transphobe who shouldn't have committed hate speech.
This is happening, and it is all based on language manipulation
BAN ALL TRANNIE DANCING AND GAY KISSING!
Christian GOP Family Values should be between a man and his mistress or gay lover. And maybe the pool boy.
Turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"BAN ALL TRANNIE DANCING AND GAY KISSING!"
...with children.
And I know you know this, but you're a pederast, so here we are.
We just want to kill off all the pedophiles. Like you. You might want to not post here anymore. I’m pretty sure that I’m not the only one who would dox you given the opportunity. And losing your anonymity might prove unhealthy for a kid fucker like you.
“This is happening”
Oh, baloney. A mentally disturbed person shot a bunch of people at her former school.
She didn't even have to cross state lines right?
Language absolutely affects one's thought. That's why newspeak is such an important project to tyrants.
Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world
Except for Lola
Lo lo lo lo Lola
Well I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
Lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola
tl;dr Male powerlifting coach mad about "transwoman" breaking records, bragging about it, and insulting biological women. Coach checks the very lax rules and signs up as a woman, smashes the braggart's record while "she" watched.
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A male Canadian powerlifting coach broke the Alberta women’s bench-press record over the weekend in an act of protest against the presiding organization’s extremely lenient trans-inclusion policy.
Avi Silverberg, who does not identify as transgender, participated in the 84+ kg category at the Canadian Powerlifting Union’s (CPU) “Heroes Classic.”
Silverberg bested transgender-identifying male competitor Anne Andres, who watched him from the audience.
Since taking up women’s powerlifting in 2019, Andres has quickly risen through the ranks, securing a bronze medal at nationals and the Alberta 84+ kg bench press record, before Silverberg snatched it from him.
At the Western Canadian Powerlifting and Bench Press Championships last September, Andres bench pressed 270 lbs., defeating multiple women in the Women’s Raw 185+ Open.
Hutchinson and fellow female Canadian powerlifter Kristine Bayntun, who lost a first-place trophy to Andres years ago at her first-ever meet, are outraged by the arrogance Andres has displayed while enjoying a clear physical advantage over the field.
“Why is women’s bench so bad? I mean, not compared to me, we all know that I’m a tranny freak so that doesn’t count. And no, we’re not talking about Mackenzie Lee, she’s got little T-Rex arms and she’s like 400 pounds of chest muscle apparently,” Andres said in a November Instagram video.
The CPU hasn’t updated its gender-eligibility rules in about five years, Ontario-based female powerlifter April Hutchinson told National Review. Men need only to declare themselves women in order to join the women’s division and are not required to suppress their testosterone levels as a prerequisite for participation.
Andres, who is recognized as a female competitor by Open Powerlifting, held the record at 275 lbs and had won at least eight women's competitions, the report noted.
Silverberg destroyed Andres's record by lifting 370 lbs, and Andres had a front-row seat to the whole lift.
Andres did not appear to appreciate the point that Silverberg was trying to make.
Silverberg is a "coward and a bigot" with "malicious intent," according to Andres.
LOL! Andres is just pissy that his wins are just a farce. Dude should go back to the men's division.
"More states are banning gender transition care for minors."
Maybe that's good, since apparently creating mentally deranged individuals on purpose could lead to mass shootings.
Like that tranny that targeted and shot up a bunch of 9 year old Christians.
Reason avoiding coverage so they dont piss off the tranny cult counter: Day 4
https://twitter.com/burackbobby_/status/1641615602606325763?t=I9hj3SWDx3hRRrPGBQqu7A&s=19
CBS “News” banned staffers from using the word “transgender” when reporting on the transgender person who shot up a Nashville school.
[Link]
'white man shoots unarmed black man (and 5 others)'
+1
Perfect take.
There shouldn’t be a CBS News.
You're just a model libertarian, aren't you?
Honesty really angers TDS-addled shits, TDS-addled shit.
Like the person who states since Trump doesn't respect the rule of law it doesn't apply to him? Or arguing for selective enforcement of laws above? Hmmm rock and glass houses?
There is no reason to think Audrey Haley’s being a crazy, homicidal person was because of “gender transition care”.
Most trans people aren’t going around shooting people. At the Idaho mall shooting, it was a non-trans crazy person who shot and killed a trans security guard who was trying to get people to safety.
For the third day in a row I will mention you were provided a study linking transgender drugs to increased violent episodes in women. Third day in a row you will ignore it.
Evidence that social media causes teen health problems "isn't convincing."
The social contagions, I guess, come from elsewhere.
Bathrooms?
Peer contagion has been shown to be a factor in several aspects of eating disorders. There are examples in the eating disorder and anorexia nervosa literature of how both internalizing symptoms and behaviors have been shared and spread via peer influences [37–41] which may have relevance to considerations of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria occurring in AYAs. Friendship cliques can set the norms for preoccupation with one’s body, one’s body image, and techniques for weight loss, and can predict an individual’s body image concerns and eating behaviors [37–39]. Peer influence is intensified in inpatient and outpatient treatment settings for patients with anorexia and counter-therapeutic subcultures that actively promote the beliefs and behaviors of anorexia nervosa have been observed [39–41]. In these settings, there is a group dynamic where the “best” anorexics (those who are thinnest, most resistant to gaining weight, and who have experienced the most medical complications from their disease) are admired, validated, and seen as authentic while the patients who want to recover from anorexia and cooperate with medical treatment are maligned, ridiculed, and marginalized [39–41]. Additionally, behaviors associated with deceiving parents and doctors about eating and weight loss, referred to as the “anorexic tricks,” are shared by patients in a manner akin to deviancy training [39–41]. Online environments provide ample opportunity for excessive reassurance seeking, co-rumination, positive and negative feedback, and deviancy training from peers who subscribe to unhealthy, self-harming behaviors. The pro-eating disorder sites provide motivation for extreme weight loss (sometimes calling the motivational content “thinspiration”)[42–44]. Such sites promote validation of eating disorder as an identity, and offer “tips and tricks” for weight loss and for deceiving parents and doctors so that individuals may continue their weight-loss activities [42–44].
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330
Parental reports (on social media) of friend clusters exhibiting signs of gender dysphoria [1–4] and increased exposure to social media/internet preceding a child’s announcement of a transgender identity [1–2, 9] raise the possibility of social and peer influences. In developmental psychology research, impacts of peers and other social influences on an individual’s development are sometimes described using the terms peer contagion and social contagion, respectively. The use of “contagion” in this context is distinct from the term’s use in the study of infectious disease, and furthermore its use as an established academic concept throughout this article is not meant in any way to characterize the developmental process, outcome, or behavior as a disease or disease-like state, or to convey any value judgement. Social contagion [29] is the spread of affect or behaviors through a population. Peer contagion, in particular, is the process where an individual and peer mutually influence each other in a way that promotes emotions and behaviors that can potentially have negative effects on their development [30]. Peer contagion has been associated with depressive symptoms, disordered eating, aggression, bullying, and drug use [30–31]. Internalizing symptoms such as depression can be spread via the mechanisms of co-rumination, which entails the repetitive discussion of problems, excessive reassurance seeking (ERS), and negative feedback [30, 32–34]. Deviancy training, which was first described for rule breaking, delinquency, and aggression, is the process whereby attitudes and behaviors associated with problem behaviors are promoted with positive reinforcement by peers [35, 36].
And as we all know the proper way to care for someone with anerexia is to affirm their choice and call them fatty fat fatty
Teens still do interact in person.
Turns out, being less restrictive regarding Covid was better. What a shock.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_a0fecf7e-cf3a-11ed-a2e7-234e70ec2e3b.html
The Paragon Health Institute compared the degree of state government response measures developed by Oxford University to health, economic and educational outcome measures in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. The index measured government interventions including state-enforced closures of businesses, schools, and other recreational facilities; restrictions on public gatherings; and masking and social distancing requirements.
“The important finding of our study is that states that imposed more severe lockdown measures did not do any better than states that were less restrictive in terms of health, and they did much worse in terms of economic and educational outcomes,” Zinberg said.
Zinberg said Illinois’ restrictions resulted in average health outcomes for residents, comparable to Florida which instituted few restrictions on residents. He added the restrictions most likely exacerbated the state’s outmigration as people voted with their feet and fled states with severe restrictions.
And then nobody resigned in shame.
This is why we need worldwide pandemic control. If every country does the same thing, nobody can compare and hold experts accountable.
More from the link:
"...The study showed severe government interventions strongly correlated with worse economic outcomes, with increased unemployment and decreased GDP,..."
Well, anyone who has read much regarding history can tell you PLANNED ECONOMIES DO NOT WORK, Newsom!
JFree hardest hit.
We have to remind him and the other Covidians of how wrong, retarded, and statist they behaved. We now have great evidence that:
– Masks never worked, as everyone here told them – The ‘vaccine’ wasnt a vaccine. It wasn’t harmless (as it was advertised), and it wasnt nearly as effective as advertised (‘you wont get or spread COVID’)…just like everyone told them – Lockdowns did no good, and caused significant economic harm, just like everyone told them
“The experts” and the class of mindless NPC here (Jeff, Mike, Jfree, M4e, Tony) that ‘trust the experts’ were wrong at every single turn. They have to be reminded and shamed. We cant let hall monitors fear-monger people into compliance with pseudoscience anymore
Add to the above that children didnt need to have the vaccine, healthy people didnt need it, and we shouldnt have closed down schools for 10x longer than needed, holding kids hostage until they masked (not needed) or got the jab (not needed) or both to make teachers feel safe.
Why bother, he won't learn. We argued about that back and forth for weeks until it became clear no amount of sanity could penetrate their thick skull.
My brother, Mike, I never advocated for mask mandates nor school lockdowns.
And a whole lot of people died because they were too stupidly partisan to get vaccinated. I stand by that.
Yes you did. You defended lockdowns. And you're full of shit. Did I hit all your assertions?
Nah matt Welch hardest hit.
Our Progressive Betters:
“OH MY GOD, THIS IS SO F---ED UP”: INSIDE SILICON VALLEY’S SECRETIVE, ORGIASTIC DARK SIDE
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/brotopia-silicon-valley-secretive-orgiastic-inner-sanctum
Some of the most powerful men in Silicon Valley are regulars at exclusive, drug-fueled, sex-laced parties—gatherings they describe not as scandalous, or even secret, but as a bold, unconventional lifestyle choice. Yet, while the guys get laid, the women get screwed. In an adaptation from her new book, Brotopia, Emily Chang exposes the tired and toxic dynamic at play.
People ‘Roofied’ At Downtown San Francisco Gaming Industry Party, Organizers Say
https://sfstandard.com/criminal-justice/people-roofied-at-downtown-san-francisco-gaming-industry-party-organizers-say/
How the tech elites lost touch with reality
Joel Kotkin on the growing rift between Silicon Valley and the masses.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/30/how-the-tech-elites-lost-touch-with-reality/
There are a couple of things that have happened. The first is that, obviously, the initial people in Silicon Valley were engineers. They’ve been replaced by people who are increasingly oriented towards finance and media. There’s much more aristocracy today in Silicon Valley than there was when it was coming up. There’s a greater emphasis on credentials and pedigree. I remember travelling to China with a bunch of Chinese-American executives from Silicon Valley who had come up the hard way. They had gone to school in places like South Dakota, and they built and made things themselves. The people running tech now didn’t start as designers of silicon chips or running factories. They came up with MBAs and they live in an ephemeral universe where they basically just manipulate symbols. That’s who runs Silicon Valley today.
They have also adopted attitudes that are not oriented towards merit. If you go to Silicon Valley Bank, so much of its attention was on supporting transgenderism, supporting gay rights, supporting women’s rights, supporting environmental companies – it was more interested in virtue-signalling than in making money.
Sounds like Wall Street and the Square Mile during the dotcom era.
If there were only some way we could prevent any kind of economic boom from happening, we wouldn't have to worry about these kinds of books ever again.
Good article.
It's what Reason would have wrote back in the old days. Before the Koch takeover.
Ironically, game devs tend to be hella woke.
"Male Feminist" is code for predator.
Fact Check: True
They are usually hella woke in terms of tolerance but results-focused in practice. E.g. cool you are X, cooler you can code.
Okay, it just sounds like a clinging attempt to restart #MeToo.
It was from 2018.
Which died when people pointed out that Biden is a rapeist
"Silicon Valley are regulars at exclusive, drug-fueled, sex-laced parties."
Man I hope so.
This is the wrong place for neo-puritanism.
Not if they were drugged in order to get their consent. Roofies are not okay, even in libertarian world.
Drugging someone to get something you want and they didn't concede to is a clear violation of the NAP.
I'm not even a libertarian and seem to far more aware of libertarianism than many of the self acclaimed libertarians posting today. WTF?
Yeah, I wasn't quoting the roofie article. Ya gotta follow the idiotic quite lines up to the right post.
Yeah, but the women getting screwed look like this.
https://nypost.com/2022/11/14/meet-caroline-ellison-sam-bankman-frieds-rumored-ex-girlfriend/
Billions of dollars and this is the best he can do.
More states are banning gender transition care for minors.
Luckily it wasn't happening anyway so no one is upset about these bans.
Mike Laursen most hurt.
It is literally life saving teen care you know!!!!
Anybody notice that the Tennessee "insurrection" was labeled a protest for gun restrictions by the media and not an actual protest in favor of the right to transition children? I did.
Yep. Never mind that the photos tell a different story. A lot of androgynist-looking people, food dye-colored hair, and a shaman of their own with, IIRC, pink horns.
Did you notice the part where they honored 'all 7 victims' (including the murderer)?
https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1641734676225183745
Yeah, I caught that. Normal practice is to list the victims and not mention the shooter. This one is different.
Of course, gender transition care was/is happening. However, no surgeon in the US has been doing gender-affirming hysterectomies or penis surgery on minors. Just ain’t occurring.
You've been proven wrong so many times on this. Jazz Jennings. Self surveys from doctors. All show you continue to bullshit.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1642859855605014533
It's weird that they need additional funding and expanded training and facilities for a program that is not happening.
The Free Speech Coalition just published a report on the financial discrimination sex workers and other adult industry members are facing at alarming rates.
Gun owners: "Welcome to the club."
This is when I figured DeSantis would say something. There was no point until Bragg did the deed.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/florida/article_41d64876-cfba-11ed-bf5e-875c4e2aa2a3.html
“The weaponization of the legal system to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on its head,” DeSantis said in a statement published on Twitter. “It is un-American. The Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney has consistently bent the law to downgrade felonies and to excuse criminal misconduct."
“Yet, now he is stretching the law to target a political opponent,” DeSantis said of New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg. “Florida will not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda.”
Florida Lt. Gov. Jeannette Nunez agreed with DeSantis, saying, “It’s true. Political agendas have no place in a court of law. We are a country of laws, not men. Florida will not tolerate one man, a Soros-backed prosecutor, using our justice system to advance a politically motivated stunt to score points.”
Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody also agreed, saying, “Upon learning of the NY DA indictment, I am heartbroken by the damage this targeted prosecution will do to the integrity of our justice system. It is a sad day in the story of the United States.”
This is the full throated response to a political prosecution you would expected from libertarians. Not ENB's, but 'Trump is guilty of so much more' bullshit.
ENB is "libertarian lite", sort of like a light beer or a diet pop.
There is nothing worse than Marlboro Ultralights. Fuck those things.
Well fuck, you support federal $10,000 free money handouts for home downpayments.
You're a few notches below ENB on the libertarian scale.
Damned fake scottsmen.....
I pointed out to you what they were. I neither supported them nor did I oppose them. I told you what they did.
Given all the "libertarian" things out there that you claim, you follow that totalitarian Soros and his Open Society which is tied to the WEF and now Charles Koch.
Soros probably promised Shrike all the little boys he can fuck in return for his treason. Similar to the dynamic between Dracula and Renfield in the Stoker novel.
I've been given to understand that Buttface lies.
You are correct; turd lies. It's what turd does.
Turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
You’re a serial rapist of children. Where does that put you?
God damn you are one stupid motherfucker.
No, she's a leftist. She's only "libertarian" when leftists agree with libertarians.
ENB is a leftist cunt.
What i posted last night.
JesseAz 12 hours ago
My odds are Reason somewhat downplays the charges, defends the other prosecutions, still calls trump terrible and a bad person, but doesn’t forcefully condemn it.
Well, now it is.
Republican prosecutors have a moral obligation to retaliate against Democrats, regardless of what they have to do, no matter the cost, regardless of the law.
.
Any who refuse to do so should resign in shame.
I see. Because Democrats act with no integrity, Republicans have a "moral duty" to also act without integrity. Makes perfect sense.
Playing by the "rules" isn't working for the GOP. The criminal left, along with the media selective reporting, is taking over by any means necessary. Morals be damned.
Time for the GOP to hoist the black flag.
The rules are no longer in effect.
the onlyt thing left is revenge.
I believe it was you who just yesterday was decrying people on the left who advocate violence.
It is called revenge and retaliation.
Surely you have heard of the concept.
I take it you're not religious?
I know you're a TDS-addled shit.
What religion? Germanic Neo-paganism believes in the payment of weregeld and revenge of weregeld isn't paid. You mean not Christian, since Christianity is one of the few religions that actually preaches turn the other cheek. That phrase is nowhere on the writings of Judaism or Islam. Possibly Buddhism and some sects of Hinduism. But even Ghandi preached deterrence was a good thing. His non violence approach was more political than theological.
Also, in Christianity forgiveness and turning the other cheek is only really considered if the threat isn't a threat of actual harm to you or others.
That’s how our society improves!
Those darn Republicans, always Pouncing. I here someone actually may have lended them credence? That’s a shame
Ashley Moody needs to start on working on indicting Democrats, no matter how outlandish the underlying legal arguments are.
If she fails to do so, she should resign in abject remorse and shame.
Every D.A. in every conservative state need to start looking for something to indict a democrat or two for. They can start with Hunter and Jim Biden and just work their way down a list. If Hunter Biden ever visited or passed through their state, the AG should charge him with something. Anything will do.
Indees.
Revenge and retaliation is a moral and ethical duty.
As much as I hate to say it and do it, I agree. These assholes will never learn until they get majorly burned by it.
Burn it down!
Oh, go fuck off, Shrike.
Spoken like a true Republican partisan. One wonders why so many Republican partisans are hanging out at a libertarian website.
You ever think you're the non libertarian since so many think you're a leftist? Don't know a single libertarian ideal you actually have.
Democrarts dragged all of us across the libne, so it is the Democrats who musrt be punished at any and all costs, regardless of the Constitution, law, or ethics.
"Trump Indictment Could Be the Jolt His Flailing 2024 Campaign Needs"
Republican voters are self-sabotaging morons who nominate terrible candidates that Democrats know they can easily beat. We saw that in the 2022 midterms. And many of them really are stupid enough not to have learned their lesson.
#PiedPiper2ElectricBoogaloo
In states with open primaries, the dems help too. They also pay for ads promoting who they deem to be the more beatable candidate. But Trump is too much damaged goods. He won't get the nomination and his hissy fit will be epic.
I love predictions.
If we’re doing predictions, what office do you think Alvin Bragg is planning for? A modest next step like NY AG, or straight for Governor or Senator?
I predict Governor. Bragg seems ambitious and Hochul looks weak.
That's what I was talking about. Many Republicans are so inept they don't even have that voice in their head that says "Hey wait a minute. If *Democrats* want this person to be the Republican candidate, what does that suggest?"
I hope you're right about Trump not getting the nomination. But right now I still think his chances (at the nomination, not the general) are decent.
I think his chances went up about 100% yesterday.
Trump should really be sending Bragg and his grand jury chocolates and flowers.
At this point, I almost have no doubt that Trump will be the GOP nominee and the GOP will fall further into irrelevancy because of it.
The GOP is very impressive at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sandra, been meaning to ask if you're familiar with Netanyahu? Elected. State political machine went against him with many overt political attacks of the legal system. Loses. Comes back 4 years later and gets a bigger win than his first election.
I am not a trump fan. But absolutely angry and the entire political class, government, IC, and media attacking someone for political reasons. Youre tacitly supporting this in your statements. You have to realize that these attacks are done by the unofficial oligarchy of the US Federal system.
I don't follow Israeli politics that closely.
I'm familiar with Nixon losing in 1960 then winning 8 years later. But I don't think that's relevant to Trump's situation:
1. Even in 1968 Nixon wasn't necessarily too old. Trump is too old, and unable to contrast with Biden in that department.
2. Nixon wasn't rematching JFK in 1968. Trump would probably rematch Biden.
3. Nothing happening in Ukraine is comparable to the Vietnam War, so unless Biden sends Americans to die there (VERY unlikely) you can't run against him on that issue.
4. Nixon didn't throw a temper tantrum after 1960. Trump threw one after 2020, and has done nothing but pile up losses and embarrassments since then.
Nixon did lash out at the media after a loss in 1962.
you don't have Nixon to kick around any more, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference.
Netanyahu can be considered the Trump of Israel. Very similar in attacks and political lawfare.
At the rate we’re going, there won’t be a next election. Control will be decided through force.
Oh, they'll hold an election, and then control the results by adding in the "mail-in" votes needed. One must keep up appearances; even tin-pot dictators hold "elections".
I don’t think that will be tolerated a second time. At that point there’s nothing to lose.
Are you guaranteeing a Trump "win" this time?
It happened a 2nd time in 2022.
Netanyahu's situation is a little different. He never "lost", he just wasn't able to form a majority for a couple of years due to infighting among right-wing parties and then one of those parties went off to form a coalition with the left.
And now Netanyahu after campaigning for his groups has the largest coalition majority of his career. You dont think that is relevant? They campaigned on reinstating Netanyahu.
He's gotten larger before, but that's beside the point. The point is that Netanyahu and Trump are not comparable. I'm not even making a statement about whether Trump is the best candidate for 2024, I genuinely don't know, I'm just saying that the political situation in Israel is different enough that you can't extrapolate from that to make any conclusions about American elections.
I dont think Trump is the best candidate. Didn’t think so in 2016. But also don’t believe he is unable to win 2024. And he is far better than whoever the dems put up.
The point is the same types of attacks were issued to effect Israeli elections. They eventually lost under those attacks, but then people got sick and tired of the bullshit and went back to supporting.
We might be entering a post election period. We definitely will after 2024 if Biden is reinstalled illegitimately again.
And many of them(GOP) really are stupid enough to believe we have honest elections.
It tells you which side actually does the vote fraud.
The "digital blackface" argument was "transparent, racebaiting, outrage fodder even when it was new; now, it is all of that and tired...
To be fair, I think it was already tired as it was being thought up in that first racebaiter's noggin.
I was never, at any point, sure it wasn’t parody.
French woman faces trial for 'insulting' Macron on Facebook
https://news.yahoo.com/french-woman-faces-trial-insulting-163820283.html
A woman in northern France is to be put on trial on charges of insulting President Emmanuel Macron after describing him as 'filth' in a Facebook post, a prosecutor said on Wednesday.
The woman, risks a fine of 12,000 euros but not prison if convicted at the trial due to be held in June.
She was arrested on Friday and held in custody for questioning after the state's local administrative office filed a complaint over her Facebook post, the prosecutor in the northern town of Saint Omer, Mehdi Benbouzid, told AFP.
Emmanuel Macron takes legal action over Hitler poster comparison
This article is more than 1 year old
Police speak with wealthy billboard operator who depicted French president as Nazi leader
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/28/emmanuel-macron-takes-legal-action-over-hitler-poster-comparison
Well, if the shit fits, Adolf Macron should wear it.
Yeah, but did you see Orban??
It's good to be the king.
Anything else going on in France?
Well, there ain't no "premier amendement" in France. Nor in most other countries in the world. Americans don't even know how privileged they are...
Which we should be glad we have it here. However, you Democrats would rather trash it so you can prosecute anything we say against the regime.
Sorry, I'm not a Democrat.
I support the entire Bill of Rights.
Right, Shrike. So totes "not a Democrat". Yep.
I wouldn't call respect for basic free speech rights a privilege.
You don't seriously think the rest of the world (well, the non-Axis parts of it) doesn't support "basic free speech rights", do you? They do.
But what you have in the USA is much, much more than just the "base-model" of free speech rights. It is definitely a privilege to have the benefit of such enhanced free speech protections. You don't agree?
I suppose we may be arguing about the definition of "privilege". But I don't agree. If you can be punished for saying mean things about the president or upsetting members of protected classes of people, then you don't have free speech.
It isn’t a privilege at all. It’s a natural right in the United States.
The bill of rights is a restriction of government power, not a final list of what rights you are allowed to have.
If someone doesn’t agree with that, you just found yourself a progressive that believes rights flow from the government and are subject to their whims.
And for the record, no, most European countries do NOT support any type of free speech. This is easily observable by noting the many, many laws in the EU that govern what you can and cannot say not to mention what you must say.
If something is a natural right, it’s a natural right everywhere.
I don’t believe there is any such thing. Rights aren’t natural at all; they have to be fought for.
Like Rittenhouse defending his own life? Oh wait. You jumped on the leftist bandwagon there.
No, doofus, you defend natural rights against those who would try to take them from you. They are innate and given from the creator.
And just like that tranny terrorism is gone from the news. Just in time to bury the manifesto.
There's always tomorrow - - - - - - - -
More insidiously, the Tiktok ban that doesn't ban Tiktok is also gone from the news.
You know how we do annual memorials for Sandy Hook and Marjorie Stoneman Douglas?
60 people... Kids and elderly... Mowed down at a Christmas parade by a black nationalist for explicitly racist reasons.... Does anyone even remember that it happened? Certainly no anniversary stories on that one.
The propaganda machine is good at what they do.
They were mowed down by a vehicle. The black nationalist behind the wheel had nothing to do with it, or the news reports would have mentioned him.
They're not necessarily good at it.
They're effective because they're in lockstep, coordinated, and have a monopoly on the means of information broadcasting.
Oh, and a complete lack of integrity.
I hope soon some people do some things to these networks' employees and offices.
and no mention of teh insurrection at the Tennessee Capitol. its strange that a bunch of anti gunner protesters would turn to violence kind of defeats their whole argument down
I think the media can't admit it is about child trannie demands.
Colorado Springs shooter: Anderson Lee Aldrich, "non-binary". 5 dead. Nov. 22, 2022.
Denver shooter: Austin Lyle, "transgender". 2 school admininstrators wounded. March 22, 2023
Aberdeen shooter: Snochia Moseley, "transgender". 3 dead, 3 wounded. Nov. 16, 2022.
Nashville shooter: Audrey Hale, "transgender". 6 dead. March 27, 2023.
Giving huge amounts of hormones to the insane was never smart.
I'd stay away from trying to make that link to the shooting. It's really no more sound an inference than trying to tie every racist white dude who shoots up a place to all of the American right.
Testosterone injection can absolutely cause increased aggression.
https://www.drugs.com/sfx/testosterone-side-effects.html
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-4320/testosterone-injection/details/list-sideeffects
Thousands of people take testosterone. Almost none of them go out and murder a bunch of people. Sure it may have been a factor for this particular person. But there has to be a whole lot of other things wrong with a person before they do something like that. I don't see any good coming from blaming extremely rare events on broad social trends.
"Thousands of people take testosterone."
But those are usually older men with medically diagnosed low testosterone, and it's part of legitimate therapy.
These are already hormonal teenagers and young adults with body dysmorphia and other mental conditions who gain no benefit. They're also being given far larger amounts than is given with therapeutic testosterone supplementation.
Thousands of people who take testosterone are so banana pants they think they're the wrong gender though.
And almost none of them commit mass murder either.
Almost no one, period, commits mass murder. If we want to target effective action against the problem, we need to look for commonalities among those very rare people who do. One of those is certain types of mental illness at an early age.
Have you seen the tranny mobs in New Zealand and Australia shutting down actual women from speaking with government assistance?
Have you read the death threats trannies are making against TERFS Including Hersheys (trans)woman of the year?
Poise Parker is who you're thinking of.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/03/26/lucky-to-be-alive-terf-activist-posie-parker-attacked-new-zealand/
Parker, real name Kellie-Jay Keen Minshull, is a noted ‘TERF’ — a pejorative term standing for ‘Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist’ — who has earned the wrath of the trans lobby with her outspoken commentary against transition treatment for children and allowing biologically male transwomen into women-only spaces, among other “hate speech”.
She was in Antipodes as part of her ‘Let Women Speak’ tour, which attracted a substantial number of supporters but also large numbers of aggressive pro-trans activists, encouraged to protest her events by celebrity leftists such as Billy Bragg.
I think that's less about the hormones and more about being enabled in doing so, by being lauded and suffering no consequences for it.
I'm not saying this isn't a bunch of crazy motherfuckers with underlying mental illness likely exacerbated by both drugs and encouragement from activist enablers. Just that the focus should be on the widespread insanity, not the extreme acts of one person.
the focus should be on the widespread insanity
Yes, the focus should be on the source of the problem, not on firearms. That's going to be difficult because no one wants to admit that their way of life and the way they raise their children is crazy.
I agree on that point. The hormones are probably not what caused the shooting. One might look into the possibility they were on other drugs like anti-psychotics since those tend to be the drugs found in cases of school shootings.
As far as I know, there are few to none links between gender dysphoria and violence. If anything, it would be expected that a biological female might be more prone to violence after taking a ton of testosterone but even then I can't imagine a big link there.
This is the first I've heard of this story though, so I admittedly know nothing whatsoever about it.
Elon Musk, Andrew Yang, and Steve Wozniak have proposed an A.I. pause.
Just until we can figure out what's going on with all those fingers.
Hillary Clinton and Democrats settle Steele dossier electoral case for $113,000
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/31/hillary-clinton-democrats-steele-dossier-settle-electoral-case
Federal Election Commission had investigated alleged misreporting of expenditure by campaign during 2016 election
Breaking accounting rules!
Will Bragg go after them now?
The statute of limitations for that “offense” has already passed, and she has lived in Chappaqua, NY on and off for many years so the statute of limitations is effective. How can y'all fail to see that her residence in New York is the overwhelming moral difference that makes what she did right and what Trump did wrong?
It has also passed for Trump dummy.
Man, you need to go to the shop and talk to a mechanic.
(a) You've got a broken sarcasm detector, (b) the pattern recognition device missed the explicit mention of the ploy Bragg is exploiting to differentiate Trump's statute of limitations from Clinton's, not that he would have prosecuted her anyway, and (c) the left/right motion sensor is no longer able to tell who's on your side.
A "giant leap" ..... forward ...?
Reducing inequality could see world population fall to 6 billion
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/reducing-inequality-could-see-world-population-fall-to-6-billion/ar-AA1979DY
This Earth4All model, created to explore which policies would deliver the most good for the majority of people, also suggests that if the world invested in a “Giant Leap” to reduce poverty and inequality, the world population would peak at around 8.5 billion people in 2040 and decline to 6 billion by the end of the century.
But they would be equally poor.
Reducing inequality through genocide.
Good to know that killing a billion people will be for equality. I wouldn't to happen for any other reason. If they would shoot for equity, they could probably justify getting it down to 2-3 billion.
Maybe not so much kill as neuter. With an aging population dying off and the next up Gen doing away with family values and opting in for voluntary sterilization as a teenager where is the next round of children coming from to shore up the population?
The loss of productive spirit in our society will likely kill off some of the newly equitable populace too.
230 million is the perfect number according to the WEF website.
I'm sure they volunteered themselves to be the first to go.
If we got rid of all the socialists, would that work out to a billion?
Both Tennessee and Kentucky have also banned drug and alcohol treatment for minors that involves handing out free bottles of whiskey and packets of crack cocaine.They just hate children I guess.
Wash, blow dry and 1.5 degrees please: hairdressers trained to talk about climate action
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/26/wash-blow-dry-and-15-degrees-please-hairdressers-trained-to-talk-about-climate-action
A salon in Sydney is spearheading workshops for hairdressers on how to steer small talk about the weather into conversations about global heating
… global heating
As if those blow dryers have no effect.
They wouldn’t like my response to their climate religion nonsense. AGW is bullshit.
Ramen for breakfast? Cup Noodles launches new breakfast flavored noodles
https://ktla.com/food/ramen-for-breakfast-cup-noodles-launches-new-breakfast-flavored-noodles/
did they add marsh mellows and sugar and cartoon charachters
marshmallows
Noodles are a pretty common Japanese breakfast food I think.
Trump being indicted is the same as a Communist purge. I mean, he just disappeared. No one knows where he went or if he'll ever be seen again.
Shame they didn't target you.
Why would they? If they're going to target anyone it would be the defenders of all things Trump. People such as yourself.
So you agree it’s a political persecution.
When have I ever defended Trump? I just point out all the "But Trump!" hipocrisy and
caterwauling.
Point goes to sarcasmic.
Every time you people get defensive with your "I never defended Trump, I hate Trump, but..." prefacing, you're doing the work of the totalitarian left.
They've just gotten you to agree with their fundamental position.
Not good.
You targeted me. Then you pussed out. Got anything to say about that you little bitch?
I’m more of an offender to all things leftist and woke. Things like you. So I adore a Trump and his ability to make any happiness you have go away.
Now run and hide you little bitchcunt.
will they jail him and drag it out for two plus years like they are doing to the Jan 6th protesters without any formal complaints just a secret indictment that no one including the lawyers gets to see not even the evidence for the indictment.
Fuck if I know. Fuck if I care. I'm just enjoying some popcorn while watching people freak out.
Youre gleeful of a political prosecution that goes against your political enemies.
An actual libertarian would be angry at the political prosecution.
Alleged political prosecution.
All the evidence shows at this point is that a grand jury decided there was probable cause to indict. Did the grand jury conspire with the "Soros-backed" DA in a political prosecution against Saint Donald?
Definitely political. Bragg campaigned on it.
https://ussanews.com/2023/03/26/alvin-bragg-campaigned-on-going-after-rich-old-white-man-donald-trump-in-disturbing-radio-interview/
Current Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg bragged in a radio interview in 2021 that he was qualified to prosecute President Donald Trump. In an interview with Ebro in the Morning, a Hot 97 radio show in New York City, then-candidate Alvin Bragg accused Trump of “lawlessness,” brought up multiple ways to potentially prosecute Trump, and said that Trump has dodged prosecution due to being a “rich old white man.” Bragg told the Ebro gang that he believed “there’s a path forward there to make a case.” Bragg’s campaign was heavily financed by progressive billionaire George Soros.
I hate to burst your bubble, but most prosecutors believe the people they go after are in fact guilty of committing crimes. It is indeed less common for them to know about those crimes in advance of being elected to office, but I don't see how he could ignore his otherwise legitimate "prosecutorial instinct" in the case of the most prominent and unrepentant crook in the land.
If he's overstepped, his prosecution will fail, and Trump will become stronger. Perhaps he doesn't care about all that? Perhaps he intends to "make his name" with this--regardless of cost? Or perhaps he has found solid evidence of criminal culpability? We shall soon see.
Right. I'm not the one in the bubble here, Shrike. Bragg actively campaigned on it while conveniently ignoring most of the robbery, theft, murder, assault, etc. violations within his jurisdiction. Yes, Virginia, it is blatantly and nakedly political.
It's one thing to say you're are going after mobsters, It's another to say you're going after a specific mobster.
If you campaign on justice reform, reduce felonies to misdemeanors, not charge many misdemeanors, but then turn around and stretch a misdemeanor to felony because it's one specific guy who you politically hate, it's obviously political.
"I hate to burst your bubble, but most prosecutors believe the people they go after are in fact guilty of committing crimes."
I don't hate to burst your bubble, but if a DA runs his campaign on a pledge to get X regardless of a stated crime, will, that sort of makes you:
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Not even leftist legal minds consider it alleged dummy. Most of them are very wary of this prosecution as it would add fire against the other 2 avenues leftist prosecutors are using against him. They literally campaigned on targeting him.
Our justice system is set up to target crimes, not people.
No, it targets criminals.
Until we see the indictment, and the evidence, we won't know how political he is being. (Well, speaking for myself--your mind is made up already!)
No. It targets crimes. The USSR targeted people. Find me a person and I will find the crime.
You have it ass backwards.
Proof you aren't a libertarian.
Bragg swore he was going to indict Trump for something in his campaign literature. He didn't even know what.
And Soros donated $1 million to Color of Change which was Bragg's PAC. This donation was made days after Bragg announced he would target Trump if elected. The organization ultimately spent around $500,000 of that money, but that doesn't change what Soros donated to his PAC.
I have a hard time believing you didn't know this.
None of which is relevant if there is sufficient evidence to convict Trump.
Except there wasn't, which is why federal prosecutors (who were also hostile to Trump) reviewed and passed.
Anyway, you're full of shit. A prosecutor who is essentially hired by a supervillain, and swears to pin a crime somehow on the supervillain's political enemy, is incredibly relevant. In fact it's so antidemocratic and fascist it's relevance can't be overstated.
But then you're a Nazi, Shrike, so of course you'd be cool with it.
Did the grand jury conspire with the “Soros-backed” DA in a political prosecution against Saint Donald?
No one has to conspire if the jury is already inclined against Trump and the DA can indict a ham sandwich if he really wants to.
And fuck off with the "saint Donald" crap. Trumps is a piece of shit. That doesn't mean we should support anything that anyone wants to hit him with. Or that we should ignore obvious fishing expeditions and politically motivated prosecutions.
Un-twist thy knickers. Many of Trump's supporters revere him in a way which defies worldly reason. You know that--there's even a cute three-letter acronym for it: TDS.
"...Many of Trump’s supporters revere him in a way which defies worldly reason..."
And those shits addled by TDS despise him beyond any claim of reason.
Stuff your TDS up your as; your head's begging for company.
Whatever scope of Joe Biden's corruption is, if we can just go down that rabbit hole endlessly and understand that he's getting kickbacks from Hunter Biden's deals in Ukraine, or wherever else, or China, it is infinitesimal compared to the corruption we know Trump is involved in. It's like a firefly to the sun. It doesn't even stack up against Trump University, right? Trump University as a story is worse than anything that can be in Hunter Biden's laptop. Now, that doesn't answer the people who say it's still completely unfair to not have looked at the laptop in a timely way and to have shut down the New York Post's Twitter account, that's a left-wing conspiracy to deny the presidency to Donald Trump - absolutely it was, absolutely. But I think it was warranted.
It was a conspiracy out in the open, but it doesn't matter what part is conspiracy, what part is out in the open
We’re gonna get four more years of Trump if we actually give this a fair hearing of Hunter's laptop and compared the work to prevent Trump from winning again to trying to stop an asteroid hurdling toward earth.
The red herring did it!
Those red herrings of yours are starting to look more and more like sharks, Sarckles.
Bookmarked for when you claim you dont cheer on political prosecutions.
A legal disaster.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/case-against-trump-legal-disaster-jenna-ellis
“The case against Donald Trump is a legal disaster, a weaponizing [of] the justice system against a political opponent,” Ellis, a former attorney for Trump’s 2020 campaign, told The Epoch Times after a grand jury in New York voted to indict the former president.
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), like Ellis, said that Bragg has “irreparably damaged our country in an attempt to interfere in our Presidential election.”
“As he routinely frees violent criminals to terrorize the public, he weaponized our sacred system of justice against President Donald Trump,” he wrote, vowing that the House will “hold Bragg and his unprecedented abuse of power to account.”
what's worse?
Going after a former president for a parking ticket long after the statute of limitations, in an attempt to add negative public sentiment when he is running for office...
or
The FBI actively working with big tech to cover up and then declare a story Russian Misinformation (TM), right before an election, as an in kind campaign contribution for a president that they thought would be more amenable to their cause.
How many people would you estimate changed their mind about whom they intended to vote for because of the latter?
Yes, that Jenna Ellis: Among her recently (i.e., earlier this month) admitted misrepresentations:
"— Ellis claimed on Nov. 13, 2020 that Hillary Clinton didn’t concede the 2016 election.
— On Nov 20, 2020, Ellis claimed Trump’s team had evidence of a “coordinated effort in all of these states to transfer votes either from Trump to Biden, to manipulate the ballots, to count them in secret.”
— On Nov. 30, 2020, Ellis said on Fox that Trump “won in a landslide.”
— On Dec. 5, 2020, Ellis claimed the Trump team found 500,000 illegal votes had been cast in Arizona."
Obviously you missed where Speaker McCarthy was discussing it.
BTW, Shrike, your post is obviously Spam.
Obviously trolling too.
Shrike's working several sockpuppets this morning. He's a busy boy.
Well, Guv'na Shrike informed everyone he was leaving on vacation so new Shrike has to keep the narrative alive while the Guv'na is gone.
Kevin McCarthy's words are only interesting if he's made another 180-degree u-turn in his on-off "relationship" with Trump.
[Check's Kev's words]
Nope, not newsworthy!
"well ... I looked pretty good when I was saying all that shit, so ..."
CNN
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Donald Trump faces more than 30 counts related to business fraud in an indictment from a Manhattan grand jury, according to two sources familiar with the case – the first time in American history that a current or former president has faced criminal charges.
So it is more likely tax/business fraud than the "hush money" weak sauce that most wingnuts are going with. The Con Man's accountant turned on him.
Better. I didn't like the hush money angle at all.
Trump may go down Capone-style.
Good morning Wikipedia Boy. Will you do us a favor?
Take a couple minutes to read what your favorite source says about the motives for 9 / 11.
Now tell us if you think "9 / 11 was intended to overthrow US democracy" (like you asserted yesterday) is an accurate summary.
Why yes, Jan 6 was a fatwa on America. Thanks for that lingo - I will use it in the future.
IOW your attempts to link 9 / 11 and 1 / 6 are logically indefensible for at least two reasons:
(1) One was a horrifically effective display of mass murder, while the other obviously wasn't.
(2) One was motivated by American foreign policy spanning decades and multiple Presidents from both parties, while the other was a sore loser temper tantrum over the most recent election.
BTW "democracy" implies a strong element of capitalism - I am a supporter of Liberalism:
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse various views depending on their understanding of these principles. However, they generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion.[11] Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history.
Wikipedia
None of which changes the fact that your assertion about "overthrowing US democracy" is a deliberate misinterpretation of Al Qaeda's motives in order to force a "1 / 6 was just like 9 / 11" narrative for partisan purposes. 🙂
Not necessarily. That’s why “liberal democracy” is used (and pretty much all liberal democracies are republics with elected representatives, not pure democracy). There’s nothing stopping people from voting for an illiberal economic or legal system in a real democracy.
Bullshit, Shrike. You carry Soros's water, and by extension Schwab's as well.
turd does lie; it's what turd does.
carry his water straight for the bladder
Do you really think he sat at the kitchen table and did his own taxes?
Of course not. Fatass Donnie doesn't know anything about taxes.
This guy
Trump Organization and CFO Allen Weisselberg charged with 15 counts in alleged tax fraud scheme
did his taxes.
So I’m sure all his other clients are under indictment as well.
Weisselberg was a full-time employee of Donnie before going to prison.
He wasn't some guy with a shingle on his office.
Did I mention that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies? It’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Seriously, why do any of you folks ENGAGE this lying pile of lefty shit?
Do you think you can somehow convince him to quit his constant dishonesty? Perhaps educate him out of his abysmal stupidity?
Mock the asshole, don't engage him; he just responds with even more lies.
True. Best defense, scroll on. Don't give this clown the time of day.
Not sure as there is the argument that you don't want his lies to go un-challenged, but there's no use engaging him.
Point out the lies and let it be.
You "engage" him every single time he posts. Not only that, you make yourself look like a juvenile idiot at the same time. (To be fair, not as idiotic as your chums who keep admitting to downloading CP every time they try to shut him down, but you're equally as effective.)
And really, "lies" is what truly animates you about SPB? Really? That is the lofty standard to which you hold everyone, but only SPB fails to reach? You make me laugh, Scato.
Ok, Shrike.
"You “engage” him every single time he posts..."
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
And totally lacking in reading comprehension besides.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Quit sockpuppeting, Shrike.
And samefagging your own defense is absolutely fucking pathetic.
At least it keeps him out of some little boy’s rectum for a few minutes.
Imagine that, Sweden actually did pretty well during the pandemic.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/sweden-did-exceptionally-well-during-covid-19-pandemic
No wonder the news media are totally silent about the data that show that Sweden’s open society policy was what the rest of the world should have done, too.
Numerous studies have shown Sweden’s excess death rate to be among the lowest in Europe during the pandemic and in several analyses, Sweden was at the bottom...
It’s both funny and infuriating.
We need a worldwide pandemic treaty to prevent further Swedens. We can't have the cattle comparing experts from different countries and holding them accountable.
I would counter with these:
How did Sweden fail the pandemic?
F Diderichsen - International Journal of Health Services, 2021
How Sweden approached the COVID-19 pandemic: Summary and commentary on the National Commission Inquiry.
Jonas F. Ludvigsson
Sweden did alright, but it was also a society with a strong social safety net, lower income inequality, and greater acceptance of voluntary measures. It also accepted higher mortality rates for predisposed individuals, particular the elderly. It is questionable whether a Swedish approach would have worked in our own country.
So it is, but Sweden also performed better than its comparable surrounding countries that had severe lockdowns.
What do you mean by "performed better"? Economically? Lower mortality?
"Results
Sweden’s health policy, being by far the most relaxed response to COVID-19, was found to have the largest COVID-19 incidence and mortality, and the highest AWPC increases for both indicators (13.5, 95% CI = 5.6, 22.0, P < 0.001; 6.3, 95% CI = 3.5, 9.1, P < 0.001). Denmark had the highest number of COVID-19 tests per capita, consistent with their approach of increased testing as a preventive strategy for disease transmission. Iceland had the second-highest number of tests per capita due to their mass-testing, contact tracing, quarantine and isolation response. Only Norway had a significant increase in unemployment (AMPC = 2.8%, 95% CI = 0.7-4.9, P < 0.009) while the percentage change in real Gross Domestic Product (GDP) was insignificant for all countries.
Conclusions
There was no trade-off between public health policy and economy during the COVID-19 pandemic in the Nordic region. Sweden’s relaxed and delayed COVID-19 health policy response did not benefit the economy in the short term, while leading to disproportionate COVID-19 hospitalizations and mortality."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9356530/
Try again, Shrike.
https://unherd.com/thepost/norways-top-epidemiologist-sweden-handled-covid-well/
Figures by the World Health Organisation, for example, show that in 2020 and 2021, the country had an average excess death rate of 56 per 100,000 — compared to 109 in the UK, 111 in Spain, 116 in Germany and 133 in Italy.
I would suggest you are using the wrong control group. Norway, Finaland and Denmark would be better controls and all had lower Covid deathrates.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1113834/cumulative-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-nordics/
Reason had an article about p hacking the other day. Similar to what you are attempting to do here. Finding the one group that will make your argument. Ignoring all the rest.
I wasn't looking for a group I was suggesting that for a control Norway, Finland, and Denmark are more like Sweden. Using UK, Germany, Italy and Spain as a control is fine, but I think the Nordic countries are a closer match.
ITL was the one who suggested that Sweden should be compared with "surrounding countries"...
He wasn't using the covid death rate, he was using the excess death rate.
"...There was no trade-off between public health policy and economy during the COVID-19 pandemic in the Nordic region..."
What does cherry picking pay where you live?
"No one in this country is above the law—including former President Trump,"
Except Hillary Clinton, Lois Lerner, Hunter Biden, Eric Holder, J6 CIs, every BLM rioter ever, etc.
Lock them up!
Unlike Trump, they should be behind bars.
Trump is "special".
Yes, he hasn't broken any laws, TDS-addled shit-pile
Legal flaws.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-indictment-rests-bizarre-legal-theory-three-major-flaws
The indictment of former President Donald Trump reportedly handed down by a Manhattan grand jury is sealed, so we don’t know the precise legal charges against the former president. However, based on leaks to the media from sources within the district attorney’s office, we can draw some reasoned conclusions.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has cobbled together a novel, if not bizarre, legal theory of intertwining offenses. It is doubtful that his case can withstand judicial scrutiny, assuming the judge who presides over the matter is objective and neutral.
The district attorney accuses Trump of falsifying business records in the accounting of a payment made to porn actress, Stormy Daniels. By taking that dubious misdemeanor and coupling it with a purported campaign finance violation, Bragg seeks to elevate it into a felony. The law does not permit such arrant manipulations.
Regardless, the prosecution of Trump is likely barred by the statute of limitations. The misdemeanor is two years, while the felony is five years. Neither can be tolled or paused under a strict reading of New York law. Trump may have been outside of the state’s jurisdiction during much of the past seven years, but his whereabouts were well known, and he maintained his residency in New York while president, visiting it regularly. Hence, it is unlikely that the two statutes of limitations can extend beyond their expiration.
Sounds like he's onto a sure winner when he gets to court, then.
Unlike Trump, I have faith in the US judicial system.
Then you're a fucking idiot.
The prisons are full of people herded into jail by crooked cops, posturing prosecutors and lazy, stupid judges.
I never said it was perfect, but it is pretty good (especially for the wealthy).
Try the "justice system" in most other countries--you'll be begging to get deported back home.
Saying that at least American justice is better than some African hellhole, isn't actually a counterpoint to observations of rampant corruption.
And I can probably name fifty countries where the justice system is at least slightly better.
Oh, now this is interesting, a cross between police unions and drugs.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/san-jose-police-association-office-manager-arrested-for-importing-fentanyl/
A California police union executive director allegedly ran a drug ring from her home and used her office computer and UPS account to order and distribute opioids and other drugs, federal officials charge.
Joanne Marian Segovia, who has worked for the San Jose Police Officers Association since 2003, was charged on Wednesday with attempting to unlawfully import a synthetic opioid called Valeryl fentanyl.
inconsistently applying the “no one is above the the law” standard is not “justice.”
Apparently democrat politicians and rioters are above the law all the time.
"Nobody is above the law, especially not the innocent."
inconsistently applying the “no one is above the the law” standard is not “justice.”
It's anarcho-tyranny.
""inconsistently applying the “no one is above the the law” standard is not “justice.”""
This, a million times.
The indictment is still under seal, so we don't yet know specifics about the charges.
But they must be super-duper serious since it took them 8 years of active scouring to come up with something.
"so we don’t yet know specifics about the charges."
And they will make this the case as long as possible. It stinks just like the FBI raid. They want the perp walk or guilt by association that comes from an indictment, but they will keep it vague or secret as long as possible.
That way lefty writers can theorize about 'potential selling of nuclear secrets' as long as possible, and maximum damage can be done in terms of public sentiment. When the nothingburger happens and the walls dont close in, retraction will be buried on page 11 in small print
It's actually not that secret, but the same media that has been reporting leaks and interviewing grand jury witnesses are suddenly going to pretend they don't know anything about the indictment so they can make big claims about it.
The conspiracy is strong in this one...
""Perp, for the uninitiated, is short for perpetrator. As commonly used, it is a loaded word. Webster’s New World College Dictionary defines a perpetrator as “a person who commits an illegal or bad act.” But those typically subjected to perp walks, often in manacles and looking their worst, are merely accused of wrongdoing. The walk is an unfair maneuver, critics say. With it, a cherished element of American justice — the presumption of innocence — is tossed out the window, or at the very least perched precariously on the ledge.""
""https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/02/us/perp-walk.html""
And yet, in this case it is Trump who wants his "perp walk" for the cameras...
Cite?
I ain't your googleo, Verne.
Googling "trump wants his perp walk" brings up a few results of comedians saying that, but no quotes from Trump. What is your source?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22trump+wants+his+perp+walk%22&t=newext&atb=v331-1&ia=web
"...I ain’t your googleo, Verne..."
You're also full of shit.
YOU made the claim, YOU back it or simply STFU, TDS-addled shit-pile.
Dosen't matter what Trump wants.
I've heard a lot of liberal friends in NYC saying they can't wait for him to have to do a perp walk. They would have agreed with the Times article from 2018.
It's about how people will abandon what they think is justice reform to go after someone they hate.
"But they must be super-duper serious since it took them 8 years of active scouring to come up with something..."
That library in Snakes Navel, ID didn't think it was worth reporting the late book return, but the courageous DA convinced them otherwise.
The fact that federal authorities didn't see room for a case here makes the evidence of criminal wrongdoing seem weak, lending credence to Trump's claims that this is more of a politically motivated crusade against him than anything else. The fact that it's coming now, after Trump announced he's running for president again in 2024, is also raising suspicions.
The sad thing is, this is what you'll point to as a defense when people accuse Reason of failing to recognize how egregious this whole situation is.
I know it. The commies just dragged him off to the Gulag to prevent him from running for office again. Probably put him in a reeducation camp. Very egregious indeed.
Your defense of political prosecutions is gulag dont exist. This is just like your defense of Australia locking up uninfected people for covid camps.
You aren't libertarian.
Is not a gulag*
But he IS a huge pussy.
House of Fauci: How Dr. Christine Grady, aka Mrs. Fauci, Used Her NIH Position To Backstop Her Husband’s Pandemic Health Directives
America’s top doctor and his wife – the chief ethicist – were the administrative state’s pandemic dream team.
https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/the-house-of-fauci-how-dr-christine
While Tony Fauci was the top paid federal bureaucrat and out-earned the U.S. President at $480,654 per year, Christine Grady, as the chief bioethicist at NIH out-earned the U.S. Vice President ($243,749). When adding 35-percent in benefits, the couple cost taxpayers an estimated nearly $1 million per year.
“I've benefited greatly from this partnership of overlapping interest and common interest. So, a lot of the things that I do with regard to the development of vaccines, the development of therapies, being involved with outbreaks and pandemics, have ethical overtones to them. I can say that I am very blessed to be living with someone who is very likely, most people think, one of the most outstanding ethicists in the world. To have her in the house -- you know, as a consultant on ethical issues—is pretty advantageous.”
https://www.thefp.com/p/tgif-showdown-edition
Just listen to Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner this week on how his office won’t prosecute illegal gun possession:
“We do not believe that arresting people and convicting them for illegal gun possession is a viable strategy to reduce shootings,” the DA’s office said.
This is the ur-progressive prosecutor, saying gun control doesn’t stop shootings and that he’s just not going to do it. Because enforcing gun control laws would mean—it’s almost too terrible to say—enforcing laws. And that’s a line that America’s progressive prosecutors simply cannot cross.
Let’s look at Washington, D.C., where maybe it’s different? There, the U.S. Attorney for D.C., Matt Graves, has declined to prosecute 67 percent of all those arrested. So: nearly 70 percent of the people D.C. cops arrest are released and never prosecuted for anything. And Graves this week is defending that 67 percent “declination” rate. Here’s what he said in a sympathetic Washington Post piece: “[T]he declinations are mostly coming after arrests in cases such as gun possession, drug possession and misdemeanors — not in violent crimes.” Okay, so. . . illegal gun possession is something you will not be charged for, per Matt Graves. He is declining, as policy, even to enforce the basic gun control laws already on the books.
No one is above the law - - - - - - - - - -
How are those poor, young men going to defend themselves from fellow criminals? Mr. Soros doesn't want 1-sided gun fights going down.
But they better not break accounting rules!
but if you are some retired tourist in an RV traveling through their town and they find a never used rusted gun in there they will charge that person to the full extent of the law
“We do not believe that arresting people and convicting them for illegal gun possession is a viable strategy to reduce shootings,” the DA’s office said.
All these laws violate the rights of the gun owner. This DA is in the right for once. "illegal gun possession" should not even be a thing.
I applaud this DA.
OK, I’m sick of all the pretend indignation by Republicans terrified of Trump and/or Trump supporters.
I dare them all: Say you believe Trump is innocent
Plenty of people are saying this, you lying warmonger.
Anyone who doesn't believe he's innocent hates America.
Excuse me, but I think you meant to say anyone who thinks he’s innocent hates democracy.
The Founders hated democracy. Guess they must think he's innocent.
The founders built this country on slavery. Of course they would think he’s innocent.
That's just dumb.
Oh yeah? You’re dumb!
Either you're an idiot or terrible parody.
Both.
Not OBL-level.
I think it's Tulpa.
Amd I know you’re a little bitch pushy. Now run away little girl.
I don't recognize this account. Are you satire or just stupid?
I think this one is satire, though I've fallen for it at least once recently. Translate the Hispanic name and look at the comment history, and it's pretty clearly playing a character.
EC is parody.
With all the parody accounts and spoofs and socks its like trying to figure out who's who in a plot to kidnap a governor, or trying to find honest [non-IC characters] venting outrage on twitter, in here.
Wwithout a score card i think the strategy has to be take everyone at face value and judge the arguments and counter arguments.
Mind you, the toxic socks and parodies do bubble up to the awareness [or suspicion] eventually so you can still decide to mute a few for constantly shitting in threads and wasting everyones time.
Poe's Law.
So you're defending Bill Kristol now?
No, I’m just making fun of the people who are gnashing their teeth and rending their clothes over this.
Ideas!
Yeah. Why would libertarians be against targeted political prosecutions. Blows your mind doesn't it.
How many people would believe Trump is innocent if Republican leader were honest? The fact is their fence sitting gives people some thought that Trump self-lamentations have merit. They don't want to say he is innocent, but their reluctance to say the other just dig them deeper in a hole.
They're just lying to themselves. Let it play out...
Kill yourself pedophile.
Like this one. One of our Little Reason Little Achievers...
Like this one: TDS-addled shit pile
Trump may be "innocent" of these charges, as it seems a stretch of the law that what he did was even a crime, however sleazy it was.
He is innocent now.
However, that could change, after a trial or a plea bargain...
Happy Trans Day of Vengeance!
Wonder what the sick fucks have as a second act?
Well, their supporters have spent the entire week trying to justify the murder of three children, so I'm sure it will be something totally not violent and unhinged.
When is Vegan Day of Vengeance?
Every day is vegan day of vengeance
not eating cheeseburgers is racist.
I remember when Hillary Clinton was such a victim because someone tried to avoid treating her as if she was above the law.
What a joke.
'You ain't seen nothing yet': Humiliated DeSantis vows to hit back at Disney after it exploited obscure 'Royal Clause' loophole to strip his new Reedy Creek board of its power
DeSantis teased that Disney may not have gotten the last laugh
A new board handpicked by DeSantis to oversee Disney's self-governing district says a backdoor agreement has left them powerless
'You ain't seen nothing yet,' DeSantis said
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11922083/DeSantis-vows-not-Disney-fight-company-uses-royal-loophole.html
Petty, vindictive, hater of liberty. No wonder he makes so many in these comments swoon.
The audacity of DeathSantis knows no bounds. Imagine: using esoteric legal maneuvers to punish your political enemies. Petty and vindictive are just the start. This is how democracy dies, people: using the law against your political enemies.
Ask any conservative and they'll praise what DeSantis is doing while wailing and crying about the left doing the same thing.
I hate the way conservatives are so uniquely hypocritical. It’s what I can’t stand the most about them.
Never said anything about unique.
There are two groups obsessed with DeSantis. The Barely legal Reason writing team, and you.
I’m just mocking you guys who froth at the mouth while screaming “DeSantis derangement syndrome!” at the screen whenever Reason even mentions the guy.
Youre continuing to defend all democrats. Youre literally shrike minis the CP and I question the latter.
The fact that you have to do that under every article would make a normal person think that maybe the critics were right.
Fortunately for your narrative, introspection and analysis aren't your superpowers.
And now you’re going to go hide again because you’re a pussy who doesn’t back up his tough talk.
Barely legal Reason writing team"
I'm going to steal that.
Three: the third are all the commenters here who object anytime he is talked about.
hater of liberty
If only he could be more like Gavin. ::swoons::
And what was he responding to retard? Disney coordinating with the prior board the day legislation passed to give Disney full government powers for perpetuity?
How do you fucking dress yourself?
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think corporations should be able to be de jure OR de facto governments beholden only unto themselves.
NBC News avoids pronouns in story on Nashville school shooter so as not to misgender Hale
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/30/nbc-news-avoids-pronouns-in-story-on-nashville-school-shooter-so-as-not-to-misgender-hale/
As disgusting as it is not to want to misgender a mass shooter in death, NBC News’ Ben Collins has taken a similar tack, contributing to a story that refers to the shooter as Hale exclusively, avoiding any use of “she,” “her” “he,” or “him.” Seriously, check for pronouns:
We don’t dare deadname a murderer l
Ben Collins is one of the worst resistance libtards.
You mean, this Ben Collins, a child of wealth?
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/10/05/tweeter-risks-wrath-of-some-of-americas-most-privileged-lib-journos-in-order-to-expose-their-efforts-to-hide-their-backgrounds-from-the-public/
Ben Collins (not the race car driver from Top Gear) of NBC News has leveraged his power and family wealth to become one of the most powerful internet hall monitors of our age… pic.twitter.com/8hUYipATlk
— NevilleTheCat (@FearTheFloof) October 5, 2022
What we do know is he is a 47 year old man who went to Emerson College which cost… wait for it… a whopping $75,000 a year to attend in todays dollars.
A very private, very exclusive, buy your way in College founded in 1880 for rich white people to buy an exclusive education. pic.twitter.com/DBGuS8nquN
— NevilleTheCat (@FearTheFloof) October 5, 2022
Ben Collins has built a brand around targeting citizens who work against Democrats & labeling them domestic terrorists. For the most part he targets the poor & middle class, the weak, the people with no resources & no way to fight back or clear their name once smeared. pic.twitter.com/HDcFL6FVud
— NevilleTheCat (@FearTheFloof) October 5, 2022
he's competing with Taylor Lorenz for most useless, entitled, spoiled piece of white liberal AWFL trash.
Its a close race
I think the media avoided pronouns on this one was that NOBODY COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS THING'S GENDER ACTUALLY WAS.
Honestly, I think Hale probably just needed a good fucking. That would have sorted her out and she wouldn't have gone off the deep end. She was clearly suffering from hysteria.
Hale's pronouns are now was/were.
Not at all too early!
Insurrection? Check out PBS NewsHour’s coverage of protesters storming the Kentucky Capitol
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/30/insurrection-check-out-pbs-newshours-coverage-of-protesters-storming-the-kentucky-capitol/
They’re not trying to overturn an election, so it doesn’t count as insurrection.
Try again, conservatards.
Holy shit, I was just about to post something similar.
Yeah, the video release put paid to that lie.
Most of those charged on 1/6 were not charged with insurrection.
The charges they were charged with seem apt for the storming of the Kentucky capitol.
Looks reasonable to me. Doesn't matter what their "cause" was.
So they've got their own Shaman and everything!
Shatransman.
Shawomxn
Shax.
Shaperson
https://babylonbee.com/news/buffalo-guy-tagged-and-released-back-into-wild
The indictment is still under seal, so we don't yet know specifics about the charges.
Serious question: Since Trump has been indicted/arrested, doesn't he have to be given Miranda-like knowledge of the charges?
He has not been arrested.
Miranda is not about arrest. It's about questioning.
Stop throwing stones on the press board! It just reinforces Trump's deranged Witch Hunt fantasies!
Trump is flailing his way to the top of 99% of every poll taken to date; so maybe DeSantis and Pence should go rob a bank?
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1641808733759053824
You communists think Trump was a big bad meanie and I think that’s so adorable because Trump is an adorable little puppy dog compared to what’s coming. He wasn’t even an appetizer. Keep pushing and see what rises.
I think that they want to create another J6.
The video release ruined their narrative about the first one, and they can’t ride pandemic fears anymore, so they need something else so that they can unshackle the alphabet agencies against the people.
Agenda 2030 isn't going to implement itself.
We didn't see what we saw. Nope. Never happened!
Lying about what you saw doesn't support the claims, TDS-addled shit-pile.
Tell us again about where you saw the smeared poop, Sicknick killed by a fire extinguisher, the names of the five Hill cops who "died", and the weapons the "armed protesters" were armed with.
Everything was a lie.
I didn't see any of the first three things you mentioned; I did see the rioters beating police with improvised weapons.
You claim not to have seen any videos of such violence?
"improvised weapons"
You mean those flags they were carrying, don't you. What a fucking joke you are.
"...I did see the rioters beating police with improvised weapons..."
Would those be nylon tie-wraps?
We don't know what is in the indictment, but if it truly is about paying off a hooker, it truly is weak sauce. It's like going after Clinton for lying about a dress stain. Sure, it's a crime, but it the process is all about hte politics. If you're going to run a former president through a wringing, make it for something better.
Best to just to block the oxygen of attention from the Trumpistas.
You last sentence gave you away.
brandyshit is 15 and always will be. Personality rules his entire 'reality'; actions are irrelevant.
Brandy is advocating ignoring political prosecutions in a libertarian forum. Telling.
His years of posting retarded partisan screeds gave him away.
"Best to just to block the oxygen of attention from the Trumpistas."
BMuch better to point out when TDS-addled assholes comment, TDS-addled asshole.
Lying under oath, which Clinton did, is not the same as entering into a contract by consenting parties to keep your mouth shut.
Clinton should have been impeached, removed from office and prosecuted for perjury. I don't care in the least what he was lying about; I cared that he lied in a judicial proceeding under oath.
That he wasn't pursued probably paved the way for Trump 1.0.
somehow I think you wouldnt have been so ' brave ' to feel that way at the time...
Why would you think that? I've been no fan of Clinton since at least his first "open-mic" incident, which was before he was elected. I had no problem supporting his impeachment--even more than most people, given our shared "profession".
"Why would you think that?..."
Because you've proven that your acquaintance with honesty is, shall we say, highly conditional.
Yes, you are a RTDSs-addled shit-pile and yes, you lie regularly.
https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1641805876024492034
Saudi Arabia begins the process of joining the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, a Chinese-led political, economic, international security and defense organization. It includes India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan, Pakistan, & Uzbekistan. Iran is set to join soon.
Something tells me the world is just possibly going to miss the 1.5C target...
Everything is fine and the world isn't completely on fire.
*sips coffee*
This is fine. Everything is fine.
A man of culture, I see.
Does that mean Hunter and 10% Joe will be taking their brides in yuan?
A new wife for Hunter? I can see that, I think he's currently not married. Joe? Unless Jill allows for a second wife?
/Sorry - took advantage of the term. I know it's "bribes".
BUT TRUMP!!!!
Look over there! TRUMP!!
These is not the national crisis you are looking for!
https://twitter.com/VinceCoglianese/status/1641428470155603968
.
@Riley_Gaines_
to anthropologist: "If you were to dig up… 2 humans… 100 years from now, both man and woman, could you tell the difference, strictly off of bones?"
"No."
*CHAOS*
"I'm not sure why I'm being laughed at if I'm the expert in the room. ... I have a PhD!"
Funny.
You may be a PhD, but I have the internet. Clearly, one of these is worth more than the other.
Hilarious:
"Im telling you im a phd!"
And then 20 something blonde shits on him, with the crowd laughing.
Democrats: this kind of stuff is why no one trusts you or your experts. We are all done playing 'the emperor has no clothes'. Its Fauci and the CDC all over. A bunch of 'experts' telling us the sky isnt blue
Don't you know who I am?! I have a PhD!
I loved the patronizing clapping they gave him after that. *chefs kiss*
He's flat out lying.
It can be tough to tell for children and teens, but in adults the pelvic girdle is completely different, as are the zygomatic bones and superciliary arch of the skull.
I love how they are retconning centuries of known, basic knowledge to fit the narrative of "everyone knows there is no difference between men and women"
It's the equivalent of the catholic church turning pagan holidays into christian celebrations.
how timely this comparison is – passover is coming [and - coincidentally, Easter]
Hail Ostara!
The whole Ostara thing comes solely from one line written by Venerable Bede. There probably was never an Anglo-Saxon/Germanic goddess named Eostre/Ostara.
The most ironic thing is the connection of Bede's Ostara to Ishtar, which is popular with atheists and neo-pagans, came from a 19th century Scottish fundamentalist who was trying to connect Catholic celebrations with occultism.
Christ celebrated Passover.
So.dod Sts.Mary, Peter, and Paul
Facts and science evolve!
And the mastoid process.
"...but in adults the pelvic girdle is completely different,..."
There's a reason for that and if you need to be told, I'm not wasting my time.
The Free Speech Coalition just published a report on the financial discrimination sex workers and other adult industry members are facing at alarming rates.
Build your own dick-sucking payment processor.
Yeah, the effect on Trump's campaign is what's *REALLY* important here, Elizabeth. The fact that THAT'S what you focus on demostrates exactly what this is: GET TRUMP, no matter the cost in dollars, principals, or justice.
"The Grand Jury has acted upon the facts and the law.
No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence.
Hopefully, the former President will peacefully respect the system, which grants him that right."
Nancy Pelosi, last night on Twitter. That tells you everything you need to know about this indictment. Trump will be required to "prove his innocence," which, of course, he will not be allowed to do because this is a farce.
It would be awesome if Reason started being libertarian again and mention something about the damage this does to the rule of law and how Ron DeSantis is right not to cooperate.
Link to Nan's tweet:
https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1641594971462541315?s=20
It's even more telling that we had a Speaker who believes, "everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence."
Why is she even allowed anywhere near a lever of power with this belief!?!
Public school. It's the root of all evil.
"Democrats Weaponize Justice System to Target Their Political Opponents; Democrats Hardest Hit By Backlash!"
She would be the first to say she has a right to be presumed innocent if she was indicted of anything.
I'm not terribly convinced the jury has actually "acted upon the facts and the law." I see this as a product of the old indict-a-ham-sandwich adage, boosted by a grand jury empaneled in a jurisdiction that is highly motivated against Trump. There have been reports of exculpatory evidence being withheld and frankly, we know this case is based on an incredibly weak campaign finance violation claim.
She should resign.
It's one thing for ordinary people to make that kind of mistake, but she should have known better.
That said, it was technically true, of course. Everyone does have that right, if they really want to run an offence as a defence.
Isn’t it? How Trump’s candidacy goes affects each and every one of us.
More states are banning gender transition care for minors.
The ugliest euphemism I've encountered in my lifetime.
You mean "puberty blockers", "hormone replacements" and "chemical castration" of minors followed by "surgical mutilation of genitals".
It's so utterly evil.
Anyone who supports puberty suppressives and genital mutilation for confused gay kids is a fucking monster.
Being agnostic, I don't use the word "evil", but if I did I would use it for this.
(I'm agreeing with you, by the way.)
Mark my words, the poster boy of young transition, Jazz Jennings, will end in tragedy. There are already stories and signs. That poor bastard is going to kill himself. it's an awful, awful story.
Jazz Jennings is a fucking tragedy.
The trans genocide is coming from inside the trans cult.
The victims of "trans genocide" are gay boys.
And 'tom boys'.
The crying to mom while lamenting "I feel like I dont even know who I am" clip is rough.
As is the clip of the mom bragging about how she wakes him up to ensure he gets his daily gash dilation, so it doesnt close up, and how good of a mom this makes her.
Munchy by proxy, and Jazz will unfortunately likely kill himself. The dems are right, we should be having kids learn about this...as a cautionary tale
it's horrific.
I started off just thinking the trans bullshit was a harmless delusional trend for edgelord hipsters in San Francisco and such but now I'm pretty sure this is the reflection of the end of a sane society and its a danger to EVERY child who encounters this deranged philosophy.
Blame Coy Mathis' mother, another munchie-by-proxy case for a lot of this shit. It was her activism to get her son to be able to use girls' bathrooms in Colorado that led to Pandora's box being opened for not only mainstreaming troonery, but giving them such political top cover that the President is promoting it and the press is defending a mass murderer of children.
Troons have been told by the power elite that they can do anything they want and get away with it, which is why they inevitably tard-rage when red states tell them, "no, you fucking can't."
Today we are all Charlie Brown.
I've always had a thing for redheads.
Or Charlie Hebdo.
Dems are more interested in re-electing Trump than Trump supporters are. We live in silly times.
Democrats have been stealing elections since Nixon-Kennedy, and have perfected the process with Drop box/Mail in voting, so who the Republican candidate is doesn't actually matter.
This is more about baiting ordinary Americans into giving them the response they need to launch a real crackdown and fully unshackle the DHS and the FBI.
"This is more about baiting ordinary Americans into giving them the response they need to launch a real crackdown and fully unshackle the DHS and the FBI."
Stop.
It's not.
This is just fucking cope to paint inaction as virtue.
Bullies aren't trying to provoke a reaction from the weak kid whose lunch money they steal, they just don't fear reaction.
Their affronts are more and more blatant because people never stand up to them, thus they do not fear consequences that never come.
They don't fucking need anybody to do anything to get their way. They're getting their way now. Optics don't matter anymore. They're explicit that their goals are to make the people's lives worse, and nobody stops them.
They don't think there will be a forceful reaction.
They want the people to continue not reacting because not reacting is submitting.
It's about not being impulsive and ultimately stupid, Nardz.
Sure.
You could also say it's about doing exactly what we've been doing for a decade plus and expecting different results.
False dichotomy. The alternative to bending over and taking another isn't only violence. There's lots of things we weren't doing that we can start doing, and the change is already happening.
Honestly, the biggest thing is just showing up, time after time after time, and pushing back against these yahoos until they either go away or acquiesce, and be vigilant for whenever they feel like getting uppity again. The biggest reason the left completed its march through the institutions, and even completed corporate capture, is because the right's leaders simply punted on this for a generation. The only time they ever got their dander up was when someone was messing with their money or, to their credit, gun ownership restrictions. Otherwise, it was a "pointless culture war issue" that resulted in a media take the side of a child-killing mass shooter, university campuses of neo-Maoists that exercise the heckler's veto on anyone who doesn't align with them 100%, and an entertainment and educational industry that is incredibly intent on convincing your kids to chop up their genitals and take crippling hormone treatments. We wouldn't be at that point if the neocons had possessed the balls to go to war with the domestic left the they did Third World countries. These morons actually think you should forever find compromise with a political party who thinks Jazz Jennings is a True and Honest Woman, instead of a functionally broken man that was permanently crippled by an ideological cult.
It's extremely important right now to not take anything the left says at face value, point out that everything they say is a euphemism for, "give me more political control over you," and make life as uncomfortable as possible for them wherever you have the chance, especially in smaller, high-trust communities where these kind of deviants can cause crippling social fissures.
Bullies aren’t trying to provoke a reaction from the weak kid whose lunch money they steal, they just don’t fear reaction.
Absolutely false. The reaction is what they're in it for. The lunch money is a bonus.
So the bully stops bullying when the weak little guy... does nothing and allows himself to get beat up?
Yes, not reacting at all can cause a bully to lose interest, but it take a lot of discipline to pull that off. What definitely doesn't work is for a weak little guy to add entertainment value by futiley attempting to defend himself against a bigger, stronger, bully.
They don’t think there will be a forceful reaction.
They want a forceful reaction because they know they can easily crush it, and then they will have more popular support for full authoritarianism.
You know who else...
You know who else laid down and waited for their inevitable destruction?
Mother nails it here… its been obvious for a while now.
Yall are fundamentally misreading the situation.
They don't need an excuse to be totalitarian. They keep demonstrating that over and over and over and over again.
They simply need you to not fight back.
And at this point, they don't expect you to fight back.
You're just coming up with a positive spin to put on the fact that they're correct.
No, you've got it wrong. The best excuse to be totalitarian is that the people fear chaos and violence so much that they submit to being ruled by strong men who can impose order. Imposing totalitarianism is much easier if they can get us fighting each other first.
Trump: "THIS [indictment] IS AN ATTACK ON OUR COUNTRY"
L'etat, c'est le Donald.
Say Shrike, do you think bringing politicized phony charges against an ex-president aren't an attack on the country? This is literal banana republic stuff.
Chinny Chin Chin c'est 'a TDS-addled shit-pile.
Oh look! ENB posted another tweet from the Reasonista's favorite Neocon warmonger...
"Bill Kristol @BillKristol
OK, I’m sick of all the pretend indignation by Republicans terrified of Trump and/or Trump supporters.
I dare them all: Say you believe Trump is innocent."
I'm sick of criminal harrassment by your lot, Billy. And I believe Trump is innocent, Kaptain Kristol.
So apparently does Speaker McCarthy, who I am extremely happy to have been wrong about.
"Kevin McCarthy @SpeakerMcCarthy
Alvin Bragg has irreparably damaged our country in an attempt to interfere in our Presidential election.
As he routinely frees violent criminals to terrorize the public, he weaponized our sacred system of justice against President Donald Trump.
The American people will not tolerate this injustice, and the House of Representatives will hold Alvin Bragg and his unprecedented abuse of power to account."
that's funny, she is citing a cuck neocon...just like all of the other lefty outlets...
No, there is no pattern here. She cant possibly be just another left wing twit, sarc and mike assure us
I keep hearing that there are left libertarians and there are right libertarians. The neocon libertarians are a pretty bold new concept.
It's an odd one too. I always figured most neocons as right authoritarians.
How much you wanna bet Kev's just reading what horseface told him to read...
Why would AOC tell him to write that?
Proving there is at least one politician more absurd than Trump: Bragg.
Purely political action that is highly likely to backfire and give Trump's campaign added amplification.
Bragg is doing the opposite if what he has been doing. He's been downgrading felonies, not prosecuting many misdemeanors, but here he makes an about face and tries turning a misdemeanor into a felony. If this was about justice, Bragg would have stayed the course of what he has been doing since he does that in the name of justice.
I am by no means a Trump fan. Can't stand the guy but it's obvious to me that this is political.
Its blatantly obvious. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an NPC or worse.
"...Can’t stand the guy but it’s obvious to me that this is political."
On a personal level, it's a good bet I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes around the guy, but I'm not looking for a drinking buddy or a daddy.
Fack remains he turned out to be the most libertarian POTUS we've had in the last hundred years.
Coolidge is still within the last 100 years. He beats the hell out of Trump on libertarian grounds.
“… He took office on August 3, 1923…”
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/calvin-coolidge
OK, 94 years, Mr. Pedant. Got anyone closer than that?
Still waiting, or am I dealing with a TDS-addled shit?
Zeb, are you just trying to prove you're a lying POS? If so, you're doing a good job.
>>It's happening.
the bold even moar delicious when it blows up
>>More states are banning gender transition care for minors.
what was the stance around here for genital mutilation of ladies of Islam?
also seriously with ignoring the school shooting because Shackford
I find it odd that some people think Trump is the most dishonest man, but Trump's dirty deeds lawyer is honest.
or that an aging ex-porn star who craves the spotlight is totes telling the truth about her affair with the president. She's just like Marilyn Monroe doncha know?!!
>>star
actress.
I don’t find the idea that an aging actress would agree to bone Donald Trump, especially if he promised some kind of financial incentives, all that odd.
Pills, golf clubs or Oldsmobiles, the Kennedy's knew how to deal with problematic women.
She's actually denied that there was any affair. She's denied it multiple times.
Why? These are the people who said Bush and Romney were both literally Hitler and now love them. They also hold John Bolton in high regard and insist the IC and FBI are institutions of high integrity and worthy of public trust.
Avenatti and Cohen are brave heroes, doing their part for society, nothing at all like Trump
They are showing us they dont care what bed fellows they have to make, as long as Trump goes down. Hell, they crashed the economy and fucked the country to get him out last time
I don't think Trump understands the concept of "honesty". Like he doesn't understand why soldiers would volunteer to serve their country.
Perhaps a jury will decide that Cohen is not credible about his dealings with Trump? I guess we'll find out.
""I don’t think Trump understands the concept of “honesty”""
And his fixer lawyer would be worse since he's the guy Trump would go to make things happen. Whatever Trump allegedly did wrong, this guy was a part of it willingly.
"I don’t think Trump understands the concept of “honesty”"
As a proven lying pile of TDS-addled shit, why in the world would you assume your opinion is to be taken seriously by anyone other than shits equally addled by TDS?
Gotta assume stupidity; much more common than cupidity. Fuck off and die, asshole.
Speaking as someone who isn't particularly fond of the guy (though not reflexively opposed), Trump's campaign was not "flailing" or "lackluster" as this article says.
Will the indictment boost him in the polls? Probably.
Was he hurting in the polls before this? Not the least bit. But for a small number of polls with DeSantis leading, Trump is up anywhere from 10-30 points over his primary competition in most polls I've seen. He raked in cash the other week just on the initial rumor milling that he would be indicted.
Trump’s campaign is by no means “flailing.” Let’s not forget that it’s fucking March 2023. The first primary is slightly less than a year away. Trump declared his candidacy historically early; no one is really paying attention to presidential politics right now. This early in the game, it’s enough to simply be present and not shoot yourself in the dick repeatedly.
I doubt anyone other than the press and the political class actually give a shit about this. They've been chasing the guy for 7 years now, his biggest political rival has basically told Bragg to go fuck himself, and whether he gets arrested or not, or even convicted, I suspect it wouldn't have actually hurt nor helped his campaign either way.
Everyone knows what they have in this guy by now. Although if he does get the nomination, I'd say that's simply nothing more than another indication of us being Weimerica, along with the Biden administration and the press taking the side of a child-killing mass shooter.
Deleted tweet about Nashville shooter's "childlike and whimsical" artwork, and how she COULD HAVE BEEN A CHILDREN'S ILLUSTRATOR.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/31/daily-mirror-dragged-for-weepy-mournful-tweet-about-mass-murderer-audrey-hales-whimsical-artwork/
Can you imagine if Stephen Paddock had left some watercolors behind and this was the response. omg
Who? Never heard of him? You must be hallucinating. - The FBI
The amount of simping for the deranged mass murder here (CHILDRENS mass murdered) is very telling.
Getting near martyrdom
The immediate rush to the defense of the trans cult is really something. I fully expected the inevitable hew and cry for gun control, but I did not exepct this level of intensity on the trans angle. Three 9 year old children were murdered, and the entire MSM is worried about how this will hurt the TRANS COMMUNITY.
Why are you surprised? They did this with every Islamist murderer. The press even bewailing that the perp wasn't a white guy.
LOL, what a bunch of bullshit. Anyone who saw her art could easily figure out that it was "good" on the level of how you tell someone with Down's Syndrome that their artwork was good.
Mindless show trial from a political hack. Nothing to fear, ultimately, on the “substance.” It wouldn’t shock me if Trump parlayed this into a political triumph.
The only issue of concern is whether Bragg is being underpinned by the scorned and spiteful Garland (or his stooges.) I put those odds at 50/50.
Not even Trump can defy the hardcore statists, and Garland is borderline Krylenko material. Perhaps the fate of the former will mirror that of the latter.
My favorite thing about Garland is that he's not and never will be a Supreme Court Justice.
yes.
Don't be too sure, they could still off Thomas like they did with Scalia to get him on the bench.
Trump’s indictment is sealed. The Nashville school shooter’s manifesto is not being released.
“Democracy dies in darkness“ indeed.
Really? The NYPO says otherwise: https://nypost.com/2023/03/29/nashville-shooter-audrey-hales-manifesto-will-be-released/
Hmm, yeah, 'will be released'.
Did you have a point other than to demonstrate once again that you are a lying POS?
Between Scylla and Charybdis
With few exceptions, your commentators, even on The Right, led you astray. You blindly followed. You still are. Meanwhile, the black shroud of Fascism not Communism is enveloping you. There is a huge difference; yet, other commentators speak as though there is none. Learn the difference.
https://www.nationonfire.com/communism-v-fascism/ .
As Fascism began its slow but steady envelopment even long before Biden, people besieged the government to stop the perpetrators. The government was the perpetrator! It would be like asking Adolf Hitler to stop Heinrich Himmler from persecuting the Jews. Biden and his cabal are merely the culmination of your failure to understand and to act accordingly. Ah, but you didn’t want to understand, let alone act. As studies have proven, you preferred pleasant lies to unpleasant truths — truths that this commentator and very few others were warning you. Now come the midnight raids by heavily armed agents of the police-state to arrest innocent Americans; yet, many of you still remain blind and deaf to the danger.
As Donald Trump said on television the other night, “This nation is dead!”
Can it be resurrected? Yes, but rebellion is insufficient. Win then? Win then restore a flawed and failed constitution that was magnificent in its time, especially the Bill of Rights about which the Framers themselves argued as to its necessity? The Constitution of the United States of America represented a compromise among men not the second document given by God.
“Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched.” -Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
With the indictment of Mr. Trump, on television and elsewhere lawyers are arguing the fine points of the law. The law has nothing to do with Mr. Trump’s persecution. It’s about politics! Look at the fundamentals, as this commentator besieged you for years to no avail. The Left has wanted mayhem. It has promoted mayhem. Now, if you resist with violence, your doing so will give them cause to lower the final boom. If you fail to resist, your failure will allow them to lower the final boom. Tyranny political with arrests and imprisonments and economic with loss of the U. S. dollar as the reserve currency. It’s already begun! So, what to do?
In your hearts, you know what to do. If you succeed, reform the document that allowed this outrage to occur. Reform how? Incorporate the Scientific Method as described in detail how and why in the unique novel, Retribution Fever. Employ a comprehensive, scientifically-based solution or continue listening to those who have led you astray. Your choice. Your future.
"Can it be resurrected? Yes, but rebellion is insufficient. "
How about hundreds of handwringing missives by pseudonymous commenters?
How about whiny posts from lefty ignoramuses like you?
Damn, over 400 posts before 1pm? I guess that's what happens when you bring up Trump in the headline.
It's over 600 comments now.
I mean, the headline is about a historic first involving a blatant overreach of authority and undermining our entire system of justice, and yet people are still defending it. It's unsurprising that there's a lot of action on this story, it's divisive and it's big.
Not every story that mentions Trump gets 100+ comments, but ones discussing something happening for the first time ever, those will be big.
Yeah, it avoids direct 'show trial' comparisons only because they can't beat a confession out of Trump.
And for a more libertarian take from Spiked…
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/31/the-persecution-of-donald-trump/
If insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, Donald Trump is blessed to have insane opponents.
Of course, this week’s indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate is a first. But, in other respects, it repeats the Trump ‘Resistance’ playbook. Liberals have continually overreached in their attempts to bring Trump down. And each time, they end up making Trump look better, sometimes even sympathetic.
As it happens, Bragg – like many liberal district attorneys – has refused to bring charges against a vast number of lawbreakers in New York. That reluctance has contributed to a rash of street crime in the Big Apple. Democrats keep repeating that no one is above the law, and that’s true in principle. But Bragg has chosen not to prosecute many more serious crimes. Clearly, he is being selective in going after Trump. It looks like he’s engaged in a vendetta, not neutral law enforcement.
Indicting a former president raises the political stakes. If you’re going to bring charges against a president, they must be rock-solid and serious – otherwise it will appear to many reasonable people as political persecution. But what’s so striking is just how unserious Bragg and the Democrats are. They treat the rule of law and political norms as if they were just a game. They seem clueless about the whirlwind they risk unleashing by weaponising the law for political ends.
If farce follows tragedy, as Marx contended, what follows years of farcical attempts to bring Trump down? We shall see.
"But Bragg has chosen not to prosecute many more serious crimes. Clearly, he is being selective in going after Trump. "
Doubtless he's a busy man. Ancient Chinese secret: Kill the rooster, frighten the monkey.
Herre's what you need to know about trueman:
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
"Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."
Good old misconstrueman.
Years ago he had a blog where he pontificated the same sort of whiny bullshit; perhaps he still does.
But if so, and if you click on his handle, you'll double the monthly hits!
trueman? Fuck off and die. Your family and the world will thank you.
Presumably if Trump were to win in '24, this event would enable the prosecution of Puddin' Joe and family.
There will never again be a Republican president.
"...Meanwhile, Bill O'Reilly suggested that Trump's prosecution would distract from more important issues:..."
Hard to believe there are issues more important than weaponizing the entire US judicial system to punish a person who points out that you are full of shit.
TRUMP IS OVER
(IF YOU WANT IT)
Speaking regarding someone who is full of shit. Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.
"Indeed, "Trump's indictment…breathes new life into his favorite campaign tactic—running as the aggrieved victim of a Democratic-run Deep State hellbent on keeping him and his supporters out of power," writes Mark Niquette at Bloomberg."
Um ... well, yeah, when the left is *literally* persecuting you with political prosecution, I guess you *can* run as a (legitimately) aggrieved victim.
Despite every possible agent available going over Trump's entire life, businesses, and finances with a fine toothed comb for years, somehow, they miraculously just now found accounting issues?
Ya, I think they would have pulled this card years ago if it was real. They reached as far as possible on impeachment 1, because they didnt get what they wanted from any tax returns or the Muller report, so they went for him with vague phone call transcripts that no one gave a shit about.
They wouldn't have been grasping at straws if they ever had anything. This seems like a hail mary and an attempt to get the perp walk they have always wanted with Muller, impeachments 1&2, the failed raid, and the Stormy shit.
How can you pretend that it is not weaponized when this exact prosecutor ran for office on a promise to "get Trump.". Not for a specific crime... But because he is Trump.
That is the dictionary definition of weaponization of the criminal justice system.
And after 2 years he brings a case that is apparently so flimsy that even the left is calling it "questionable" and "weak".
If you can pretend that this doesn't fit under "weaponized" and instead believe it to be an impartial application of justice. I have a bridge you might be interested in.
We know what the underlying facts of the case are. What's missing is the novel legal theory they're using to get past all the problems, which include:
1) Statute of Limitations
2) Jurisdictional issues
3) Supremacy clause
4) Free Speech (Citizens United)
The worst possible thing you can say happened is a victimless misdemeanor where Trump misclassified a payment as legal fees when it should have been classified as a campaign expense. The statute of limitations for something like that is 2 years. What the New York government is trying to do is bootstrap that misdemeanor to a federal crime-which they have no jurisdiction to prosecutor and the FEC itself declined to charge-to say he was performing this misdemeanor in the commission of another crime in order to make it a felony. But they can't prosecute that other crime and no entity who CAN prosecute that other crime is charging him with that crime, so you run into jurisdictional and Supremacy issues, of the state trying to usurp federal authority.
We can't claim ignorance because we all know what this is about. Multiple grand jury witnesses have given interviews over their testimony and what the prosecutors are going after.
I just find it hard to believe that if there was really much to charge Trump with they would have waited this long. Tons of people have been desperate to get him with something for years now and this is all they've got.
Either that or the real dirt on Trump would also bring down a lot of other people who Democrats and the press want to protect.
"...We all know Trump has used corrupt business practices all of his life,..."
Why is it that TDS-addled piles of shit lie so tranparently?
Because sea lion, he investigated a man for a crime. The same shit russia and dictators do. He relied on crimes already dismissed by multiple other prosecutors. He is creating novel construction to raise the charges. While he often uses his office to reduce charges.
You and the other leftists here are clear you are fine with political prosecutions.
It's "clear" because it conflicts with bias.
Flat earth society members think the evidence for a horizontal world is clear too.
Nice troll, whomever is spoofing Mike Laursen perfectly.
Goddammit.
I'm sure the IRS, multiple AG's, Congress, and everyone else are way worse investigators than the formidable Alvin Bragg.
They wouldn’t have been grasping at straws if they ever had anything.
Not necessarily, they could be ignoring other crimes because they too would be complicit. I can think a number of civil rights violations perpetrated by Trump that the establishment wouldn't touch because they like big government overreach.
I wonder if this will become the last straw that turns the American people against the democrat regime. If it isn’t, it can’t be too far away.
Promises made, promises kept.
Read the democrat party platform.
Reason is also ignoring Dems suing to keep a 3rd party off ballots despite it being a hobby horse of theirs.
I've been harping on this for a long time. The end of USD as the reserve currency was inevitable at some point but the Biden Neocons pretty much forced the issue when they turned the dollar into a weapon to fight their proxy war. This may turn out to be Biden's all time biggest fuckup. But the media will probably blame Trump.
The MMT morons love a weak dollar.
Never mind that it would have been almost certainly illegal if Trump had used campaign funds to pay an NDA to a porn star he allegedly had an affair with. That’s why the FEC passed on the issue.
You don't need to invoke innocence for this to be politically motivated weaponization of the office.
The guy told you in his own words that he was going to use the office for political retribution before he got the job. Whether he succeeded in finding a real crime is secondary to why he was trying in the first place.
On top of that we know for a fact based on Mueller that Hillary actually did misvlassify expenses as legal fees for her campaign funding Steele.
The legal theory is "Orangemanbad!"
Either that or the real dirt on Trump would also bring down a lot of other people who Democrats and the press want to protect.
I mean, this is at least a part of why Hunter Biden is untouchable. He's a fuck up and an embarrassment to everyone who knows him, but he's enough of an unstable coward that he might spill the beans on a lot of powerful people.
They waited beyond the statute of limitations anyway.
There was a 4-year break while Trump was in office.
Are you suggesting they should have prosecuted a sitting president?
"...Tons of people have been desperate to get him with something for years now and this is all they’ve got..."
Pretty sure hardly anyone holding office could have that amount of attention and not get caught for something.
This isn’t all they’ve got. There are three other full blown investigations going on right now over Trump (four if you include the rape case with the old lady). Even if found guilty he probably wouldn’t go to jail for any of them, except maybe the Georgia election interference case.
"And after 2 years he brings a case that is apparently so flimsy that even the left is calling it “questionable” and “weak”."
Well, that's just because they think there is more serious (unspecified) stuff they should be getting Trump for. It's a weird cope, I know, but that is what they are saying.
Never mind that it would have been almost certainly illegal if Trump had used campaign funds to pay an NDA to a porn star he allegedly had an affair with. That’s why the FEC passed on the issue.
Not necessarily. Political donors paid off John Edwards' mistress back in 2008. For Trump, there's a possibility he was making this payment to protect his business interests because he's an entire brand in himself, so you can say it's absolutely fair to qualify these as business interests.
John Edwards paid off a mistress directly with campaign funds. Being fair, I don't recall if he faced any consequences but I'm willing to bet he isn't in jail for it
He campaign was quietly fined around $100k for that. No fanfare, no acknowledging that the years of breathless reporting on how Trump is compromised by the Russians were deliberate lies, nothing.
Also, Trump is innocent in this case. Just for the record.
It has been said that a savvy prosecutor can cause a grand jury to “indict a ham sandwich”, but at the end of the day, it was still the grand jury which heard the evidence, decided there was probable cause and indicted Trump.
Yup, Bragg makes Mike Nefong look like Ben Matlock*.
*highest standard of the criminal law profession I can think of.
Same here, all the regular AWFL category folks that are normally irate and screaming about guns after every school shooting talked about this one for half a day.
Once word that shooter was trans got out officially, it was crickets.
Source?
Innocent of what? They haven’t even released the charges yet
Do you mean he is innocent of the felony charge, specifically?
They’re probably gonna totally bail him on that misdemeanor!
I believe they said the statute of limitations had been tolled while Trump was out of the state. It's a thing...
But if you're right, the statute of limitations would be a good argument for him to raise in court. I think it's called, "getting off on a technicality" among the traditional "tough on crime" right wingers, but when have today's "conservatives" applied the traditional rules to Trump?
Liarson, but it's probably exactly what Laursen will post.
He did get a 4-year break from prosecution while he was President.
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Wow. Going with pure ignorance now. What do you think Mueller was for?
New York Criminal Procedure Law ,Section 30.10, 2(b):
A prosecution for any other felony must be commenced within five years after the commission thereof;
Just for a start in reasons why he's innocent.
"I believe they said the statute of limitations had been tolled while Trump was out of the state. It’s a thing…"
Except that he wasn't out of state, TDS-addled shit-pile
Trump maintained his residence in New York throughout his presidency. He wasn't "continuously" out of the state, he was repeatedly inside of the state. The statute itself doesn't only tick away on the actual hours spent inside the state, you'd have to be out the state on a permanent basis. Beyond that, his whereabouts were not unknown, he was one of the most findable people in the world over the intervening 6+ years.
And think about that as an excuse: they're clearly able to indict him right now, despite him clearly not being in New York. So why should the previous periods he wasn't in New York have prevented an indictment? They didn't have to wait and ambush him as he was getting off a plane in Long Island.
It requires continuously being out of NY. They indicted him while he was outside of NY.
Your ignorance continues to be noted.
These are your fellow Rock Ridge residents, Mrs Johnson...
Laursen said the same shit yesterday.
So the claim is correct?
Grand juries do not hear exculpatory evidence. That's why you can indict a ham sandwich.
"There was a 4-year break while Trump was in office."
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
"There was a 4-year break while Trump was in office."
I haven't specifically read the NY SOL but pretty sure no statute anywhere says this.
Why do TDS-addled piles of shit argue so dishonestly?
You're not dealing with an honest commenter;
I'm not going to go research NY statutes of limitation, but if you're right, that would be a great argument to raise in court, and Trump has nothing to worry about!
Same thing happened when the black dude killed a bunch of white parade participants.
A red SUV was deemed the culprit.
It hasn’t been “crickets”. My news feed still has stories about the shooting.
That's what happens when the attempted coup is followed up by a successful coup
You've proven above youre okay with political prosecutions. Why are you here? Go to dailyKos.
That's spelled "dishonesty".
It wasn’t “Prosecution” it was “investigation”.
This will be his argument.
The Mueller Report did not decide whether to indict Trump or not.
"In Mueller's opening statement that came later before the House Intelligence Committee, the former special counsel said he wanted to "correct the record" on his exchange with Lieu.
"That's not the correct way to say it," Mueller said. "We did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
That statement was more in line with his report, and with his earlier opening statement to the Judiciary Committee, where he said, "Based on Justice Department policy and principles of fairness, we decided we would not make a determination as to whether the President committed a crime. That was our decision then and it remains our decision today.""
The reason he "would not make a determination" was almost certainly because Trump was a sitting president at the time.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/did-mueller-mean-trump-could-be-indicted-when-he-leaves-n1033901
Was there a mass shooting at the Michigan State campus this year? I can't seem to remember.
Pretty sure the honest "argument" consists of "IT'S TRUMP!!!!"
Earnesto is deeply concerned about the trajectory of our beloved democratic institutions. His comments signal his stunning level of virtue.
Shrikes paid to be here. The Kos Kids don't need a Woke missionary, they're already believers, but the Reason comments do.
You are mistaken. I do not agree with political prosecutions.
Trump will be the only beneficiary if Bragg has indeed overreached. Bragg may not know that, but I do.
but then wouldnt he just commit ‘suicide’ and the problem magically goes away?
or accid killed during a robbery - you know - like seth rich
Hamster farts produce methane, an even eviler greenhouse gas.
Suiciding the son of the sitting president is probably a bad look, even for the Clintons.
I haven't either (but I presume Bragg has).
You may have forgotten, but this was in answer to Zeb's "why did they wait this long" query. There was a period of four years during which no prosecutor believed they could have prosecuted the sitting president. That is probably at least part of the reason why it has taken this long for the first criminal prosecution to come down.
Again, if the DA has got the statute tolling thing completely wrong, the indictment will be thrown out of court. Fake prosecutions of Donald Trump only benefit Donald Trump.
Only if he started blabbing about the Clintons.
Fuck, this was supposed to be in response to Ersatz's comment about Hunter Biden above. . . .
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Some the gloves are off, as soon as we have a legitimate president, Obama, Biden and very one else involved in wiretapping Trump should be put on trial for their crimes. Which are proven.
And if the next election is another sham, then it’s time to just kick the democrats out of everything, forever.
Not even. He actually went to trial over it, the jury deadlocked on 5 on the charges and acquitted him over the other, and all prosecution was dropped for the other 5 charges.
So you could say he faced punishment in that the process is punishment, but he was never found guilty of anything and paid no fines. He probably had legal expenses but who knows how those ended up being paid.
And commitin' a nuisance!
Innocent of falsifying records, which is what these charges come down to. We can't play ignorance when we've heard what this is all about from the various grand jury witness interviews.
Securing an NDA is almost certainly justifiable under "legal expenses," for a major corporation. By the rule of lenity, the most favorable interpretation of ambiguity has to be interpreted in favor of the defendant.
I was curious.
Sevo fucks children. His own
Go back to fucking kids
Sevo's a liar. He fucks children
Sevo is spelled PEDO
Sevo = Pedo
The FEC made Edwards repay $2.1 million in matching campaign funds. That’s it. But he was a Party member in good standing, and not Orange Man Bad.
better than the 4 yr old you molested
No, that’s you Shrike. Go kill yourself.
Still no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
I see still no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
You first. Slit your throat and bleed out for daddy savior
Hey look! Another pedo with Sevo! You guys rape children together and then get all Qanon'y?
Conservative pig
No answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
I see no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
You’re too gutless to say that shit on your Buttplug sock. Fucking faggot child rapist. You’re as big a pussy as Sarc.
Shrike, you’re not fooling anyone. You’re just procrastinating. It’s time to commit suicide. So get on with it.
Kill yourself already.
Me thinks you doth protest too much.
That’s worse than blabbing about Mars.
Nah, I’d rather watch you die. I’m not a child molester like you, so I have no reason to die.
Now kill yourself you worthless child raping bitch.
Assholes like him make me look forward to all the leftist deaths in the forthcoming civil war. I truly hope they suffer.
Sevo's a liar. It's all he ever does. He fucks children. His own
TDS-addled shit pile still has no answer. Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
Me thinks, you missing the joke
“Me thinks, you missing the joke”
Nobody misses you at all, including your family. Unless they’re as abysmally stupid as you
Shrike is rather boring. I guess this is in place of Guv'na Shrike for the time being.
He puts most of his effort into fucking little boys.
Elmer is a Morman who fucks his child brides in his own family. I know this 100%. Have evidence
"Elmer is a Morman who fucks his child brides in his own family. I know this 100%. Have evidence"
Probably every bit as good as your "evidence' regarding Trump. IOWs, totally worthless.
Fuck off and die, asshole
Pretty sure you're not going to ever provide an answer.
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled asshole.
TDS-addled shit pile is not capable of providing an answer.
Well, dummies, this has made my day. See ya in a few weeks when I return to tell you that you're still fake ass libertarians that worship a man instead of principles. Until then, go fuck yourselves harder than ever. Or each other. Whatever floats your boat. Just leave the kids out of it.
LOL! He does this to everyone who challenges him with actual citations and evidence.
If you have everyone muted, who are you responding to?
You clearly have the single best trolling handle.
I have the real one on mute so it's easy for me to tell but god DAMN do you hook a lot of fish.
Only pedo here is you shrike.
Youre here every day shrike. You have no principles. Not a single one. Just defend the left as best you can.
You wouldn't know liberty if it fucked you with Tony's dick.
And nobody here worships Trump you absolute fucking moron.
3 months from now he will deny. Bet on it. Probably when charges get thrown out.
Always a hoot, losers. See ya in a couple of weeks just to check in that you still have zero concept of libertarianism. You and Elmer go suck each other's assholes until then, K? But seriously, man, leave kids out of that shit. They are innocent and don't need a grown man, even with the IQ of an 8 year old, tainting their childhoods.
True. Exculpatory evidence is presented at a trial. The consideration at this stage was "probable cause".
The big question is whether his re-election to the presidency in 2024 would toll the criminal prosecutions. That would be interesting.
But you can say with very strong precedent that it would have been inappropriate to pay Daniels with campaign funding. Therefore, they are trying to prosecute Trump in a catch-22, where either way he acted, he is breaking the law.
There is a reason that catch-22s are illegal.
'...with ties to christian organization'
They must obey their statist masters.
If shrike did what you say he did, he should be in prison. But he isn't, is he? He didn't even "go away" for a significant period of time, did he? In fact, he popped right back up in the comments and has carried on ever since.
I have no idea if it's true, but if "all the evidence" against him (as we are repeatedly told) is that Reason deleted some of his posts, then I would have to say the case against him is utterly and irretrievably unproven. These pathetic attempts to smear him without evidence do nothing for your credibility--indeed, they make you look guilty. Enjoy!
Gee, a cite from NBC News!
TDS-addled shits aren't real selective, are they?
You mean an investigation that found no conscious coordination or deliberate coordination and was based upon a dossier that the FBI now admits is mostly false and they suspected as much even when they opened the investigation? Face it, the charge of Russian Collusion was false from the beginning.
Still no answer, TDS-addled shit pile? Why am I not surprised?
Fuck off and die.
wrong place
That is the message I hear.
But enough about tony……
Remember Trump was impeached for asking the Ukrainians to investigate a possible (he was unannounced at that time) political opponents, Braggs is a registered Democrat, who campaigned openly on 'getting Trump' while running. Trump is officially announced as a candidate. Double standard much?
IANAL, but they probably could have charged such a heinous crime, to stay within the statute of limitations, and held the prosecution in abeyance, until he was out of office.
It's okay that it's a malicious prosecution because he still has a chance to defend himself!
Except that the "judges" in NY are as corrupt as any jury he might have to face.
Reason didn’t write about it, either, by the way.
About 10 days after it happened, Reason repeated the story of how Vanderbilt University DEI used ChatGPT to generate a comforting message to the student body.
Of course, we two Mikes had a discussion about this yesterday, which he ran away from, and now he is repeating the same b.s.
You've defended the prosecution all morning. It is political. Youre defending it. Lol. Fucking retard leftists.
"You are mistaken. I do not agree with political prosecutions..."
You're a liar or too stupid to understand you've been supporting exactly that this entire thread.
Stupid or dishonest.
And the clip is from 2019! Been hanging on to that for a while, hasn't he?
"If shrike did what you say he did, he should be in prison..."
Turd did exactly as charged, reason wiped the site clean. And:
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Ya, no.
You put up a bunch of crap examples, trying to find the least viral shootings that happened, as evidence they never cover shootings.
One that you cited literally had an article covering it the next morning (I guess you hoped the lie that they never covered it would go uncontested), which I kindly cited for you.
I made a point, you tried to prove it wrong with lies, then I proved your lies to be just that. Dont confuse a mic drop for running away, next time.
Also next time bring some actual evidence, dont just corpse fuck an old thread and assume no one is going to look back to see how poorly you did