The Supreme Court Tackles the First Amendment Right To Encourage Illegal Immigration
Understanding what’s at stake in United States v. Hansen

Federal law prohibits the act of encouraging or inducing unlawful immigration for private financial gain. Later this month, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in a case, United States v. Hansen, which asks whether that law should be struck down as an unconstitutional infringement on freedom of speech.
The law deserves to die on First Amendment grounds. As the Rutherford Institute and the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression observe in an amicus brief they filed in the case, "expressing disagreement with laws through advocacy of their violation…is part of a deeply rooted American tradition." That tradition includes both the abolitionists who urged defiance of proslavery statutes in the 19th century and the civil rights activists who championed nonviolent resistance to Jim Crow in the 20th century. "Criminalizing mere encouragement of unlawful conduct," the brief points out, "would chill speech essential to movements advocating political and social change."
Here is a modern hypothetical that further illustrates the point. Assume that a self-described advocate of an open-borders immigration policy writes a book urging civil disobedience in the face of what the author argues is an unjust immigration regime. The book directly calls for undocumented immigrants to remain in the United States illegally and to fight for their rights.
The sale of such a book would seem to violate the plain text of the federal prohibition on encouraging illegal immigration for financial gain. Yet the First Amendment just as clearly protects the author's right to write and sell such a book. In that sort of contest between a federal law and a constitutional liberty, the Constitution always deserves to win.
If this case sounds familiar, it's because the Supreme Court heard a nearly identical dispute just three years ago. But that case, United States v. Sineneng-Smith, was ultimately resolved on narrow procedural grounds. The Court never ruled on the underlying First Amendment question. However, as I noted at the time, the Sineneng-Smith oral arguments suggested that "several justices seemed potentially open" to striking down the federal law at issue:
"What about a charity?" Justice Brett Kavanaugh asked Deputy Solicitor General Eric Feigin. "A charity provides food to someone who's in the country unlawfully…it's designed to provide food for people who can't get it elsewhere and they know that the people taking advantage of that are here unlawfully?"
Feigin conceded that such a charity might find itself on the receiving end of unwanted federal attention. "To the extent that a charity were doing something that violated the plain terms of the statute," Feigin answered, "that amounted to giving—effectively giving money to people to—or something that is the equivalent of money to people with the purpose that those people reside in the United States unlawfully, that might violate the statute."
Justice Sonia Sotomayor made a point similar to Kavanaugh's. "I read 'encourage or induce an alien to come, enter, or reside in the U.S., knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law,'" Sotomayor told the deputy solicitor general, and it "seems to me" that all sorts of constitutionally protected speech and activity would be in trouble. "The hospital that's treating…an illegally present child with a disease, the church who provides worship to illegal aliens," both of these real-world examples, Sotomayor pointed out, "would be a violation of the statute."
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that "overbroad laws that chill speech within the First Amendment's vast and privileged sphere" deserve no sanction. The federal ban on encouraging or inducing unlawful immigration should be overruled according to that exacting standard.
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If you have a first amendment right to encourage illegal immigration, we have a first amendment right to encourage assault on those encouraging illegal immigration
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"Brandenburg v Ohio"
Seems pertinent.
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Although now that I think of it, that test requires a threat of imminent action.
"...that test requires a threat of imminent action."
Which Justice Brennan substituted for the "clear and present danger test."
and is still a Cleveland Steamer of an opinion.
So, if you don't actually own a woodchipper...
You could rent one.
And a first amendment right to lobby for the incarceration and lawful execution of practicing Marxists.
Unless you wrote that from prison, I think you've proven we have the freedom of speech to call for assault on anyone for any reason.
"Letters from a Mississippi Drunk Tank"
Keep sucking that regime cock, fellas.
we all have a natural right to exhort others to do anything. Breaking laws included. ESPECIALLY in breaking laws to be frank.
First amendment just codifies that more explicitly, but has not done it's job over the years, of course.
Some libertarians don't believe in rights
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Brandenburg v Ohio"
There is a free speech right to offer your criminal skills to potential employers?
Cue "Dirty Deeds, Done Dirt Cheap".
Depends. Is it the Texas border patrol?
Or Norm MacDonald and Artie Lange.
Cue "Murder by Numbers" by Sting, and "One More Murder" by Better Than Ezra.
you must try a twosome or a threesome, you'll find your conscience bothers you much less.
Fucking awesome song.
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Look, you can't expect the federal government to go after employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. That's just crazy!
This is just the price of (economic) liberty.
Government papers are sacred. Working without government papers is stealing. Paying rent without government papers is trespassing. Buying food without government papers is rape. Cooking it without government papers is murder. Doing anything without government papers should be punishable by death.
Buying food without government papers is rape.
I don't buy food for that purpose.
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You can just say "as an open-borders libertarian I fundamentally disagree with the premise", you know.
I suppose. Though I do believe there should be some basic border controls, you know? Like don't let in people with tuberculosis or a long rap sheet full of violent crime. We don't need cooks and cops that badly.
Fair-enough, but my point is that when one's disagreement is with the premise itself, this kind of response isn't helpful.
And yes, I appreciate the irony given that my own comment was itself sarcastic.
"Though I do believe there should be some basic border controls, you know? Like don’t let in people with tuberculosis"
But can you explain WHY you believe that?
Why should illness prevent somebody from seeking their liberty here?
Not honestly he can't.
Oh, do tell me what I think. And then call me a liar when I disagree with you. It will be fun. The mean girls can jump in and you can all have a circle jerk.
Do you consider yourself to be the sole source of any and all truths? I didn't say you didn't disagree with the premise.
What is it called when apes remove lice eggs from hair?
Hygiene. Take notes.
Keep picking them nits.
Oddly enough, when Trumpanzees flick their louse eggs onto someone else's fur they call that "campaigning" or "spreading Truth."
Howdy Hank! Still not dead yet?
Nationalsocialists prefer an inbred redneck population given to burning books, and Whites Only borders. That dumb policy does not suffice to make it a good idea to let rabid suicide bombers for Allah sneak in uninspected--which is the nearest thing to a definition of "Open Borders." Right now engineers, physicians, physicists, biologists, chemists and other educated persons are WELCOMED as immigrants. By the same token, Anarchists, violent mystics, murderers, screwdriver-rape-murderers and such... not so much.
I' going to need to see the libertarian case for forcing employers to be immigration cops. I know they're already tax collectors for the IRS and every state and local sales tax so why not just make them do more shit. I wonder how many other government responsibilities we can make them enforce. The list seems endless.
Look, you can’t expect the federal government to go after employers who knowingly hire hit men. That’s just crazy!
This is just the price of (economic) liberty.
Respectfully disagree; hiring is an 'action' not a speech. When you hire an illegal activity be done I see no reason to excuse that out of some sort of "speech" clause.
Aiding and abetting criminal activity is itself a crime. Inciting criminality is also a crime. We need to identify the line where certain speech is criminal activity. If I tell John to kill Peter then I am not innocent of his murder. If I suggest how John could kill Peter I'm not innocent either. If I make an argument that Peter shouldn't be alive then it is probably free speech, but could fall under incitement under certain circumstances.
I can't be bothered to read the article, but I have a feeling Root considers all of it free speech so long as it benefits his pet causes
Precisely. 1A does not apply; it's a criminal facilitation case, i.e. you cannot encourage people to gang rape a woman on a pin ball machine, or enter the country illegally. You can certainly argue the laws against gang rape or entering the country illegally (or slavery) should be overturned. That's your right under the First Amendment. But telling people to violate an existing law ('...It's my turn!...Hold her down!...') is not protected speech.
Also, the simple act of a Charity providing food, Hospital providing care, or Church providing ministry, does not violate any provision of this law. If it goes beyond the simple act it may become harboring.
>>cannot encourage people to gang rape a woman
until rape occurs nothing occurred.
You don't think illegal immigration has occurred? 🙂
Another facile extrapolation of the premise that the monopolistic political State is infallible. Papal infallibility was stretched to include Nixon. Questioning the goodthinkful dogma of carpet-bombing & raping civilians a planet-diameter away was heinous thoughtcrime. In the resulting underground railroad rebel mystics, objectivists, libertarians and communists helped individuals escape enslavement and murder. Motives were far from common, but the Nixon gang was the common enemy. If Donald is any indication, that hasn't changed.
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We need to identify the line where certain speech is criminal activity.
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Maybe 'action' and 'speech' are two different things.
Here is a modern hypothetical that further illustrates the point.
Russian Foreign Nationals engage in online speech to further their political cause within US borders.
You can't expect progressive nuts (or Reason) to hold consistent standards.
Not when there's work to be done.
>>The law deserves to die on First Amendment grounds.
so does that whole incitement of violence bullshit too. and obscenity and fraud and the other ones I can't come up with offhand.
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"expressing disagreement with laws through advocacy of their violation…is part of a deeply rooted American tradition."
Unless it comes in the form of a tweet during January 6.
No one has been arrested for tweeting on Jan 6th.
Not sure about tweets, but for text messages, yes:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/politics/tarrio-proud-boys-charged-seditious-conspiracy-january-6/index.html
And it’s never been suggested.
Posting, "hire illegal immigrants" on FB? 1A
Standing outside Home Depot asking a contractor, hire these illegal immigrants standing on the kerb? No 1A.
"I read 'encourage or induce an alien to come, enter, or reside in the U.S., knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law,'
Cue half of Biden's speeches, as a candidate and as President.
“Federal law prohibits the act of encouraging or inducing unlawful immigration for private financial gain. ”
Naturally. They’re the ones creating arbitrary quotas and restrictions on the free movements of people – encouraging people to come in without the proper government approval (Hey! We can be like North Korea too!!) undercuts government authority and the amount of revenue (in the form of “fees”) they can steal from people wanting to come here.
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I'll make you a deal: let's strike down these unconstitutional laws, but also let's enforce the entirely constitutional laws against hiring, aiding, and supporting illegal migrants, including harsh financial penalties and prison sentences against employers, landlords, etc.
BINGO! +100000000000 Well stated.
" ... remain in the United States illegally and to fight for their rights. ... "
WTF??
Wait till you hear the argument that the US Constitution is global law for illegals just because they wondered into a new nation uninvited... 🙂
I've wondered more than once if the biggest problem in the USA is citizens electing Al'Capones or if it's just all the illegal immigration. When I voted they insisted no other means of verification other than a power bill.
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Exactly. People here illegally are not due any rights whatsoever, and certainly not at the expense of American citizens and taxpayers.
Seems pretty straightforward. Inciting a riot is a felony. Inciting invasion is, too.
Although now that I think of it like a game, that test requires a threat of imminent action.
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