House Republicans Pass Bill To Prevent Federal Meddling in Online Speech
The bill is overbroad and could have unintended consequences.

The House of Representative last week passed a bill to protect online speech from federal officials. House Republicans drafted the proposal largely in response to reporting that revealed federal employees—often in law enforcement or public-health agencies—have asked social media platforms to moderate users' legally protected speech.
For instance, in one edition of the "Twitter Files," a series of reports based on internal Twitter records, journalist Matt Taibbi revealed that the FBI's correspondence with the platform was "constant and pervasive." Taibbi found that "there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth" between January 2020 and November 2022. The FBI, wary of election misinformation, regularly reported even satirical content to Twitter. This sort of coordination between officials and platforms was the norm, not an aberration.
The agency's conduct would certainly seem to violate the spirit, if not the letter, of the First Amendment. The bill passed by House Republicans recognizes this, but has its own major problems.
The bill's primary fault lies in its definitions. It defines "censorship" as "influencing or coercing…for…the removal or suppression of lawful [online] speech"; "the addition of any disclaimer, information, or other alert to lawful [online] speech"; or "the removal or restriction of access of any person or entity on an interactive computer service generally available to the public."
This expansive language would seemingly extend past the attempts to influence social-media content moderation outlined in the Twitter Files. "The bill applies to requests that authors remove their own interactive computer service posts, or add corrections to those posts, and not just to requests that the computer services do that to their users' posts," Eugene Volokh, a law professor at UCLA, tells Reason. What's more, "The bill applies to requests that, say, newspaper writers add corrections to their posts online…and not just to requests that the computer services block or delete users' posts," he adds.
Federal employees would be barred from exerting their "official authority" to "censor" online speech, or even advocating the suppression or alteration of legal online speech while wearing a "uniform or official insignia" or in a federal work building or vehicle. The bill exempts law enforcement attempting to curb unlawful speech, although in such instances a detailed report of each "censorship action" would be required.
Moreover, the bill's strictures on the speech of federal employees, even in their personal capacities, could raise civil liberties concerns, says Ari Cohn, free speech counsel at TechFreedom. "Many users say where they work even on their personal, non-official social media account bios," Cohn notes. "Are those people prohibited, because their personal profile indicates their employment, from reporting content using a platform's tools, or even from posting about how they disagree with a platform's decision to leave certain content up?"
The bill will almost surely stall in the Democrat-controlled Senate, but should the GOP retake the Senate and the White House in 2024, a subsequent, tailored version could find traction. Corralling the unruly stampede of federal bureaucrats back into the bounds of constitutional intent is a worthy endeavor, particularly since the courts may decide it's not their place.
Some politicians and pundits have suggested that jawboning bureaucrats violated the First Amendment, but this notion is unlikely to withstand judicial scrutiny. In O'Handley v. Weber, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit held last week that a government providing input in a platform's content moderation does not necessarily transform the moderation itself into state action, a reiteration of existing precedent. "The First Amendment does not interfere with this communication so long as the intermediary is free to disagree with the government and to make its own independent judgment about whether to comply with the government's request," Judge Paul Watford wrote. The plaintiff also fell short under Supreme Court precedent set in Bantam Books v. Sullivan (1963): "Bantam Books and its progeny draw a line between coercion and persuasion," Watford explained. "The former is unconstitutional intimidation while the latter is permissible government speech."
Placing limits on that speech is up to Congress.
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Also, Trump is NOT praised in this article!!! For SHAME!!!
Also this: WHY is Reason NOT demanding that these new laws ALSO should FREE the thousands upon tens of thousands who have been JAILED? Or perhaps even MILLIONS of social media owners and employees, who have REFUSED to do Government Almighty's bidding, concerning moderation of their own web sites? ... Well no, I can't name any, but we all KNOW that there are MANY tens or hundreds of thousands of these jailed freedom fighters, at the VERY least!
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Would you look at that? Sarcasmic's SQRLY One sockpuppet agrees with sarcasmic! What are the odds?
Praised???? WTF? When has that happened in the last year?
Well, even worse. In this case, they're essentially bashing Republicans for being too libertarian.
They don't even give any reasons why they don't like the bill, except that it came from Republicans. If Democrats put forth the same bill Reason would praise it.
Do you agree with their specific complaint?
Why is more government the answer to too much government?
Does this require more government? It seems like it's mostly a limitation on actions agents of the state can take.
More rules means more people to enforce them. The "libertarian" (I'm starting to identify more as a classical liberal than a libertarian these days) view should be that these government assholes shouldn't have that much power in the first place. Telling them "No, you can't do that" is like telling a cop they can't beat someone up for being mouthy. Courts say no, cops say make me, and then go do what they want. Nothing else happens.
"(I’m starting to identify more as a classical liberal than a libertarian these days)"
No surprises there, except the "classical" part is just window dressing. In the last couple of months you saw violations of freedoms that would make honest libertarians shake with rage, but instead of being horrified you were dismissive and made excuses for them.
"...I’m starting to identify more as a classical liberal than a libertarian these days..."
He really needs to admit to being a lying pile of hypocritical lefty shit.
Nah, you’re just a leftist with a severe alcohol problem and rage issues.
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Telling a government agent that they are not allowed to advocate for censorship is not more government...Unless you think statements like "shall not infringe" is adding government.
Why do we require laws to tell people in power that they can't do something? What happens when they ignore the law? Are they going to enforce it on themselves? Haaa ha ha ha!
I thought we had these Constitution things with defined powers, and that acting outside of those powers is a treasonous violation of an oath to office. No need for new laws. But what do I know. Everyone says I'm a leftist.
" What happens when they ignore the law?"
Poor Sarcasmic, this whole "libertarian" thing doesn't mesh too well with your tribal loyalties, huh?
I mean, I agree in principle. But in the world of practical politics it does seem like something like this may be appropriate. Sometimes the constitution needs a bit more of an enforcement mechanism.
Unarmed people take to the streets and peacefully protest, and then you giggle like a schoolgirl while whacking your microchode when armed agents of the state shoot them in the face and kill them, mostly.
Keep in mind that Overt the Not-So-Covert is in favor of small Government Almighty... Except when Overt is overtly in favor of LARGER Government Almighty! For example, it is bad (in Overt's mind) when Government Almighty adds ever more and more and MORE flavors of "specially protected employees"... But then it is WONDERFUL when TX Gov. Abbott adds SPECIAL PROTECTIONS for employees who will NOT wear masks or get shots, in the middle of a disease wave!
Butt do NOT forget, also, THIS! FORCE the immuno-compromised-patients wings of the hospital to hire (and not fire) the rabid anti-vax, pro-sneezing-and-coughing troublemakers!
TX. Gov. Abbott and the anti-vaxxers want to PROTECT the job-holding RIGHTS of health care workers like THIS!
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wisconsin-hospital-employee-fired-after-intentionally-destroying-500-doses-covid-n1252605
Wisconsin hospital employee fired, arrested after ‘intentionally’ destroying 500 doses of Covid vaccine
… and like this…
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/us/woman-coughed-on-produce-trnd/index.html
A grocery store threw out $35,000 in food that a woman intentionally coughed on, sparking coronavirus fears, police said
Umm, this whole “libertarian” thing isn't working for you either, is it Sqrls.
Also, from your link: "The incident happened over the weekend at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, north of Milwaukee. Grafton police announced the arrest of the pharmacist Thursday, but did not name the man or identify a motive."
Anyway, does your internet end at 2020? Because I haven't ever seen you post a link from after that.
If he was "guilty" it looks like he did everyone a favor:
SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA vaccine sequences circulate in blood up to 28 days after COVID-19 vaccination
and
Autopsy-based histopathological characterization of myocarditis after anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination
And so THAT is why employers need to give up YET MORE discretionary hire-and-fire-at-will powers? Because vaccines are not PERFECT like PERFECT Mammary-Fuhrer?
Dangerous, not imperfect. And vaccines work, your experimental mRNA gene therapy injections do not.
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-Quote MammaryBahnFuhrer the "Expert Christian Theologian", AKA Mother’s Lament, with a head full of cement
So Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer, Supreme Demonic Director of Decay, Destruction, and Death... WHEN are You going to STOP stealing the IDs of Your victims, and then posting kiddie porn in THEIR names, and then blaming THEM?
Inquiring minds want to KNOW, dammit!
"At least, so says DOCTOR Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer!"
So says the two current, massive studies printed in reputable medical journals, you disingenuous Nazi fuck.
Also I'll gladly repeat my previous statement.
Sqrlsy, offing yourself would definitely be good for humanity. At least think of the poor people who have to deal with you every day.
Medical experts ALSO say that clean food-handling processes have NOT stopped food poisoning and deaths caused by said food poisoning! Food is NOT safe, Mammary-Fuhrer! Stop eating NOW!!!!
"Medical experts ALSO say that clean food-handling processes have NOT stopped food poisoning and deaths caused by said food poisoning!"
No medical expert has said that. In fact medical experts say the opposite. Clean food-handling processes do stop food poisoning.
I know your kink is coprophagia so you're not cool with hygiene, but there's got to be a limit to your disingenuous claims.
Since SQRSLY One is sarcasmic's sockpuppet, that's the identity property, yes.
One of your sources says NOTHING about COVID vaccines being BAD for you, Perfectly Stupid Bitch!!! It says... "This allows prolonged spike protein production giving an advantage for a continuous immune response in some persons."
So immune response is BAD, then, Evil Bitch? It is BAD only for those who lust for pain, disease, and DEATH, Oh Perfect Necrophiliac!
I knew you were stupid, but I didn't think that you were so ignorant as to not be aware of what spike proteins are and why they're dangerous.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34100279/
"papers showed that the spike protein by itself (without being part of the corona virus) can damage endothelial cells and disrupt the blood-brain barrier. These findings may be even more relevant to the pathogenesis of long-COVID syndrome that may affect as many as 50% of those infected with SARS-CoV-2. In COVID-19, a response to oxidative stress is required by increasing anti-oxidant enzymes. In this regard, it is known that polyphenols are natural anti-oxidants with multiple health effects. Hence, there are even more reasons to intervene with the use of anti-oxidant compounds, such as luteolin, in addition to available vaccines and anti-inflammatory drugs to prevent the harmful actions of the spike protein."
Between Sqrlsy not recognizing 230 despite shitposting spam on it, and thinking spike proteins are good, it's like arguing with a retarded cartoon.
So Mammary-Fuhrer, a VERY simple question for you: How many people have died of the disease (COVID), v/s how many have died of the vaccine? (You can combine the REAL numbers for the vaccine PLUS the micro-chips therein, PLUS the direct hand of the Lizard People ass well, to try to make Your Head Case, if You'd like.)
Remember when sarcasmic's favorite bumper sticker was "Not giving is taking"?
The mostest sarcasmically retardedest part is the criticism is that they’re calling for a reduced set of privileges or a heightened set of standards for federal employees even when not acting in a federal role. Just like sarc, if he weren’t secretly a closeted cop-sucker, would insist that even off-duty police officers should be held to a higher legal standard than civilians.
Care to translate your word salad into English?
And that's not what "word salad" means, Sarcasmic. It means schizophasia. Have you thought about trying another language, because English obviously isn't working for you.
Anyway, he's saying you're a hypocrite... and he's right.
He still doesn’t grasp ‘ad hominem’.
Wait until the text on the bottle on Colt 45 starts looking clear again and all will be revealed, drunky.
The bill calls for holding federal agents to a higher standard at all times, just like you think cops should be held to a higher standard when they’re off duty.
Also, he thinks your a hypocrite.
+1
Given that they are progressive leftists I see how they got confused.
It's truly bad when a supposedly Libertarian website decides that it must simply take a stand against Constitutional rights in order to maintain its anti-Trump, "anti-right", status. To take the position that a law against government officials violating people's right is bad law and a violation of those employees' rights, takes some really twisted logic.
Right about that!
There is NO function of a federal employee in the service of the government other that to provide information, or to work within the specific confines of the government - 1) in accordance with the legal charter, defined by Congress, AND (not OR) 2) limits described by the Constitution.
Any other action by ANY federal employee is that of a normal, average, citizen. There can be no additional weight or implied consequences. Otherwise, they have overstepped their powers.
The real problem are Government parasites, with totalitarian protections (indemnifications) acting outside these bounds. Until there are real individual consequences to acting outside the legal charter, there will be no limit to this oppression, beyond pathetic social pressure, and then, only as supported in the media. This means - no limits.
We need real individual consequences to the actions of individuals in government service, beyond reelection. That is demonstrated as wholly inadequate.
Dude, the horse is already dead. No need to beat it further.
Nothing says "No problem" like constantly saying "See, this is an OUTLIER!"
You are pretty much dead on.
Will this bill, if it becomes law, prevent the government from prosecuting me if I post or forward memes or internet hoaxes that attempt to lead the massively ignorant to vote by texting with their cell phones, or to skip long lines and show up on Wednesday if they propose to vote for Democrats?
Some sumbitch did that ya'know, and our government by the people wants to lock that mf'er up with the J-6 insurrectionists. Long live liberty and "democracy".
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Federal employees would be barred from exerting their "official authority" to "censor" online speech ... while wearing a "uniform or official insignia" or in a federal work building or vehicle.
"Jenkins, remove that badge and take your laptop to the park across the street."
Huh, that's pretty good language.
The FBI is going to have to pull all of their UC agents and informants out in the field who are busy setting up domestic terrorist groups, entrapping civilians, as well as fabricating, planting, and destroying evidence back into the office to let them know.
So?
Moreover, the bill's strictures on the speech of federal employees, even in their personal capacities, could raise civil liberties concerns, says Ari Cohn, free speech counsel at TechFreedom. "Many users say where they work even on their personal, non-official social media account bios," Cohn notes. "Are those people prohibited, because their personal profile indicates their employment, from reporting content using a platform's tools, or even from posting about how they disagree with a platform's decision to leave certain content up?"
Maybe they have no business doing anything with an official account. It's called, "get your own damn private account and comment as a private citizen in your non-work hours". If they feel their private account might be mistaken, there's always a disclaimer, "these comments are not endorsed nor are representative of my employer". People do this all the time.
Yeah, I don't see the moral hazard.
For the most part, this seems like a good idea, preventing government agents from engaging in censorious activities in their official capacity.
When did we start worrying about violating the personal rights of agents of the state? Maybe when they stop violating everyone else's on a habitual basis, we can talk.
Also, if they did do it by a public Tweet/post, I'd be a little happier to begin with. Right now they use 3rd party intermediates with back door channels removing any immediate public scrutiny.
Good point.
And that would be “combating bad speech with good speech” rather than censorship, which used to be good ol’ American common sense.
Your fellow travelers are suppressing good speech and putting state power behind bad speech.
I agree. The details of this particular bill may not be perfect, but a bill like this is precisely what should be done about the problem illustrated by the Twitter Files.
Are we really expected to that there is such a fuzzy line between a government agent’s speech in an official capacity and speech in a personal capacity that it is difficult to make restrictions on government agents strobarming private entities into complying with illegal censorship? I think we are seeing postmodern libertarianism here.
And we already have legal precedents that government agents have compromised personal free speech rights. Such as when Trump was disallowed from banning people from following his personal Twitter account.
"Such as when Trump was disallowed from banning people from following his personal Twitter account."
Yes, because all good libertarians KNOW that when powerful pubic politicians can HIDE their communications from those who want to listen, or at least know WHAT the Emperor's latest commands are, then this is a GOOD thing! Trump can issue commands, via Twitter, to all and sundry, but we who have been declared to be NOT-NICE people by Trump, should NOT be allowed to directly know what those commands are!
Can a politician holding office have a private social media account where he has full free speech rights? Yes or no?
The courts set a precedent that the answer is no. That would also seem to be a precedent for any government official’s private free speech rights. Unless your argument is that only applies to Trump.
"Can a politician holding office have a private social media account where he has full free speech rights? Yes or no?"
If he or she PAYS FOR THEIR OWN WEB SITE, then YES! Our Dear Leader Emperor does NOT (in a free society that respects property rights) own Twitter-Twatter or FacePooooo!!! OR their private-property moderation rights, in a NON-Marxist world!
Hey whining crybaby… I pay (PAY! With MY money! I OWN!) for my own web site at Go-Daddy. I say some VERY sarcastic and un-politically-correct, intolerant things about cults like Scientology there (and Government Almighty as well). I am QUITE sure that a LOT of “tolerant” liberal-type folks at Google etc. would NOT be happy with the types of things I wrote! Yet, if you do a search-string “Scienfoology”, Google will take you STRAIGHT to MY web site, a top hit! #2!
https://www.google.com/search?q=scienfoology&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPzZqf0dXsAhUCT6wKHez9DNwQvgUoAXoECDEQKg&biw=1920&bih=941
Your whining and crying is (just about ) UTTERLY without basis!
WHERE is your respect for property rights?! I learned to respect the property rights of others, before I was in the 1st grade! Didn’t your Momma raise you right?
Just because censorship isn't illegal doesn't make it right, you creepy old Nazi fuck.
Trump, who has milked and defrauded MILLIONS over the years, can NOT afford a few hundred dollars per year for a GoDaddy account of His own??? And so He MUST rip off Twitter-Twatter for FREE coverage?!?! WTF, ye thieving, GREEDY bastards?!?!?
See The Atlantic article
https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet”.
He poozy-snatch His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!
All Hail to THE Poozzy Grasper in Chief!!!
Butt He is TOO POOR to afford His Own Special Go-Daddy web site!!!!
JANUARY 23, 2017
You can't post a link after 2020, can you? Is that when your internet stops?
Since that piece of Democratic Party propaganda was published one of the major purveyors of those accusations, Michael Avenatti, has been jailed for fraud.
If your internet went beyond 2020 you'd learn that most of the stuff you swallowed was lies.
See The Atlantic article
https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet”.
By David A. Graham... NOT by Michael Avenatti. HELLO??!?!?
You refuted NOTHING from the link!
You don't actually know who Michael Avenatti is, do you. You think he's a writer for the Atlantic or something, don't you.
Sevo might be right. You might actually be nothing more than a badly programmed spam bot.
You refuted NOTHING from the link!
Also, I bet that You are SOOOOO Perfectly Stupid, that You don't know who John Eby Egbert-Dilbert Weisenfart is, do You?
If so, can we delete the program?
I am not sure how any of that is responsive to what I wrote, or is even English, really.
You are coming off as the possessor of an addled mind.
It's a form of heckler's veto.
He deliberately shuts down conversation and renders threads unreadable through long-winded shitposting.
So ye intellectually voided pansy panty-waists have NOTHING to refute what I have to say, other than name-calling. What an UTTER surprise!
It is very difficult to refute a word salad.
Especially when the would-be refuter lacks more than 3 neurons, AND the facts do NOT support Her Perfect Positions!
“That would also seem to be a precedent for any government official’s private free speech rights.”
I want to make sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying we cannot or should not consider elected officials as a separate class from government employees and contractors when it comes to free speech rights?
You know what he was referring to was a case where the government told Twitter, a private company, what to do, right?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/07/its-very-dangerous-for-military-leaders-to-say-trumps-tweets-arent-policy.html
A Tweet Is a Direct Order
Military leaders who say the president’s social media posts aren’t policy are playing a dangerous game.
July, 2017
You can’t post a link after 2020, can you? Is that when your internet stops?
Has Der TrumpfenFuhrer changed Its spots yet? Has He taken back His Big Lie yet?
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Friends, non-foreigner-type True Americans, and all who Make America Great Again, lend me your ears! I come to bury Biden, not to praise him. Biden and his minions stole the elections, and we must dishonor that! To Make America Great Again, we must invent the most fantastic, fabulous, YUUUGEST BIGNESS EVAH SEEN, in the ways of truly factually fictitious, but Spiritually and Metaphorically True, NEW Republican ballots! Because I have directed My Generals and My Scientists to research the current and past performance, efficacy, and patriotism of one-party states, versus multi-party states. As I have directed them to, My impartial, unbiased, data-driven council of My Generals and My Scientists have determined that yea verily, one-party states work better! Therefore, we must all strive for the Glorious Day, when America becomes a one-party state, under the One True Party, the Republican Party!
But for now, the courts have sided with Biden and his camel-toe, and Antifa, BLM, and all the Marxist terrorists. We must let the courts have it their way, with mayo on the side. I mean, with Mao Tse Tung on the side, but without the Proud Boys standing back and standing by. Thank you, Proud Boys, for having stood by me. Also, thank you, Steve Bannon, Vladimir Putin, Kim Ill Dung, and Pepe the Stolen-Intellectual-Property Frog. Pepe, watch out for Miss Piggy, she and her “pre-nuptial contracts” will clean your clock, just like Melania is set to clean mine soon! But I digest.
So we can’t disrepute what the nasty courts have said, or there might be civil war. Sad! The courts aren’t very American these days! And if you don’t like what I just said? Well, I’m sorry that you feel that way!
So congratulations to Biden for having stolen the elections! This is America, so we must properly honor the decisions of the courts, in a dishonorable way! Biden can come and live with us in the White House, per the wishes of the courts. He can pour our covfefe for us, for Steve Bannon, Pepe the Frog, and I, and Jill can make sandwiches for us. We promise to call him POTUS, and her, First Lady! POTUS of covfefe, and First Lady of sandwiches, that is! Hey Biden! Get yer butt over here! Pepe needs some covfefe!
That setup will get us by for a little while! Meanwhile, we can schedule the NEW run-off elections, this time without any fraudulent so-called “Democratic” votes being allowed, and we can do this RIGHT the next time!
Meanwhile, congratulations to Joe Stalin-Biden, on being elected POTUS of pouring covfefe for Pepe!
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>>or even advocating the suppression or alteration of legal online speech while wearing a "uniform or official insignia"
what if I wear my Flowers By Irene togs while I advocate for suppression from my home with the webcam off?
This was all done voluntarily by pRiVaTe CoMpAnIeS.
The bill is overbroad...
Oh, yeah, we mustn't get too broad in our disallowing government officials from performing censorship. What the hell kind of "libertarians" are the Reason staffers. I mean, this is something that should be a libertarian no-brainer. Instead, they've got the intern lecturing us how we should fault Republicans for advancing a law to protect free speech. If this is the quality of his output, maybe the staff ought to assign him sandwich-making responsibilities.
Only leftists point out possible unintended consequences.
I'm not even convinced these consequences were unintentional.
Maybe a slight over-reaction to a real problem, that could use some tweaking to get the liberty balance right.
it is in fact a completely understated, barely scratching the surface-reaction to the problem.
https://reason.com/2022/09/21/the-government-cant-fix-social-media-moderation-and-should-not-try/
What gets me “WTFrustrated” to no end, is that a prime threat being wielded here (by “both sides”) is “do what we want you to do, or we’ll take Section 230 down, so that we can GET YOU!”… THIS, from our asshole politicians… On both sides!!!
And then the peons will “pile on”, in agreement, that… We need to kill Section 230!!! All while imagining that “I can pussy-grab my enemies, and my enemies will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing me right back”, after we kill Section 230!!!
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE that one-sided retaliation-free pussy-grabbing has EVER worked well, for long-term peace and prosperity? Look at history, and we can SEE that pussy-grabbing leads to MORE pussy-grabbing, going both ways! When will humans learn this simple lesson?
This bill does not go far enough.
Elon Musk and the house Republicans have done more for free speech in a few months than Reason has done for many years. In fact Reason spent thousands of column inches defending censorship. Fuck off with your overbroad bullshit.
Just ONE of the MANY real problems here is that the Twitter files were SELECTIVELY AND PARTIALLY released by politically and otherwise biased Elonites!!! Who knows HOW much bullshit was pulled at Twitter-twatter-tweakers AT THE BEHEST OF JOSH HAWLEY ETC.!!! But THOSE kinds of things are NOT revealed to us!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files from there…
The installment releases have been criticized for alleged shortcomings, including exaggerating the contents’ significance, omissions of context, outright mendacity, partial reporting, conclusions reached in the reporting with counterclaims against, and described as “an egregious example of the very phenomenon it purports to condemn—that of social-media managers leveraging their platforms for partisan ends”.
SQRLSY comments: Note partial reporting… The INTERNAL EMAILS WERE NOT ALL RELEASED!!!! They were SELECTIVELY RELEASED!!! Ye mendacious liars!!!!
Hence also from there “calls for the full release of all documents for the sake of transparency…” Hello, liars!!!!
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/863932758/stung-by-twitter-trump-signs-executive-order-to-weaken-social-media-companies
Stung By Twitter, Trump Signs Executive Order To Weaken Social Media Companies
Trust in Trump, who will FIX all this “Government Almighty pressures on social media” for us!
Telling lies and linking to overt (and incredibly dishonest) authoritarian propaganda, doesn't make you any less a censorious Nazi, Shillsy.
Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!
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At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.
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Ah your "Tim" post. Your angry white flag.
It should surprise no one that elected representatives either don't get the First Amendment or don't WANT to get the First Amendment. Additionally, whether they are Democrats or Republicans, they want to reserve the authority to violate the First Amendment whenever it suits them in the future when the shoe is on the other foot (so to speak) politically. This is not that complex legally speaking and so it suggests that Representatives in Congress - who are almost all lawyers - don't WANT to pass a simple law that forbids government officials from interfering in any way with online platforms' free speech rights or the free speech rights of anyone who posts content on those platforms. There are no ifs, ands or buts needed to write such a law.
WHO shall be prohibited from making suggestions, about what? Precisely, legally, in both cases? Taking just the WHO… Government employees? Contractors? Their wives, husbands, children, nephews, cats, dogs? If I am the POTUS, or a Senator, and I want to get a “suggestion” put in to you (Twitter-Twatter or FacePooo or etc.), you can BET that I WILL find a way to get that “suggestion” over to you, and make it somehow clear WHO it came from (but NOT in a legally provable fashion).
Then if we are going to outlaw such communications, how will we ENFORCE such laws? More spy cameras and ever more-more-MORE mandatory collection and reporting of ALL of our communications? … Pretty SUCKY idea when we think of HOW are we gonna actually make this WORK!!
A VERY simple version of that would be to outlaw tax money spent as “carrots” to “persuade” media to do or not do certain things! FBI spent millions rewarding Twitter, say some, others say not true… I wasn’t there to see it or not see it… If it IS true, or NOT true, it should be outlawed!
https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/20/no-the-fbi-is-not-paying-twitter-to-censor/ says 1 source…
https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/fbi-reimbursed-twitter-for-doing-its-dirty-work-on-users/
Well SHIT! Now, WHO to believe!?!? In any case, outlaw tax money spent for this!
“WHO shall be prohibited from making suggestions, about what?”
I know this is hard for you because you’re full on “REPUBLICANS BAD!1!1!1!”, but ANY government employee or official is prohibited from making suggestions that citizens speech or press should be censored.
But the below is OK with you? 'Cause "Team R" are the GOOD guys?
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/863932758/stung-by-twitter-trump-signs-executive-order-to-weaken-social-media-companies
Stung By Twitter, Trump Signs Executive Order To Weaken Social Media Companies
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Moreover, the bill’s strictures on the speech of federal employees, even in their personal capacities, could raise civil liberties concerns, says Ari Cohn, free speech counsel at TechFreedom
Too fucking bad. You work for the regime, getting paid with my fucking money, you keep your trap shut. Dont like it? Get a real job.
Military members are expected to generally stay quiet on most political matters. Some government employees already have certain speech limitations on them as private individuals just as most private employees do. Try posting a bunch of public comments in favor of Hitler and see how your employer responds.
This article and far too many here are the absolute antithesis of libertarianism
I knew a Chaplain in the reserves who was filmed entering his church after drill in his uniform while a pro-life rally was being held there who was forced to retire (or face UCMJ action), so yes, these ruled already apply to those in uniform and are fairly strictly applied. So, not sure what the big hoopla is about.
In O'Handley v. Weber, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit held last week that a government providing input in a platform's content moderation does not necessarily transform the moderation itself into state action
Yes, but that's also the fucking 9th circuit. Maybe we shouldn't pretend that they're greatest authorities when it comes to constitutional rights.
Just gotta love how the judge dismissed the bribe money attached to it.
Seems like a good idea. Maybe it is overbroad, but at this point I don't care. The government has shown itself to be willing to bend the rules on censorship, and to be so dishonest and manipulative that no one should ever take them at their word that something is incorrect or misleading.
If government employees don't like the restrictions on their speech, they are welcome to find work in the private sector.
muzzling the government and preventing the employees from influencing public discourse, much less controlling it, can not possible be broad enough.
It should be total. The penalties for violation should be extreme. It should be considered one of the most heinous crimes a government employee can commit.
Because it is.
I agree, though ideally government employees should be free to speak outside of their official roles. But if they are going to use that as an end-run around free speech protections then fuck 'em. They can get a real job if they don't like it.
There are all sorts of things you can do in private that can lose you your job, precisely because it undermines your ability to effectively do your job. Having affairs and credit problems can lead to you not getting security clearance. How many government employees have been fired because they made some statement that was seen as bigoted or racist?
At the end of the day, you are free to opine however you want. You are not guaranteed a government job.
See my post above about a Chaplain being removed from the military for entering his church in uniform during a pro-life speech and getting caught on film. Hell, when I worked at the University we had to enter disclaimers on our personal Facebook and other social media pages that the views we expressed we our own and not that of our employers. Not sure why Reason thinks this is new?
That "overbroad" statement is an example of whichever editor wrote the lead being just a little too upset that the GOP is on the right side of this issue.
Seems like a good idea. Maybe it is overbroad
I agree and I'm having a hard time seeing what's overbroad about it. I think this is exactly what's needed: to make government agents' behavior prosecutable. This is a much better approach than the previous "make it illegal for private companies to take down political speech" approach some of the red states tried.
Yeah this bill should go further. 10 years in jail for any government employee found to be engaging in this behavior.
Agreed.
I’m sure you’ve got me muted, but nice to see we can agree on something as fundamental as this.
"Some politicians and pundits have suggested that jawboning bureaucrats violated the First Amendment, but this notion is unlikely to withstand judicial scrutiny."
Yes, and it is very disappointing that Reason has consistently failed to accept that the judicial record is not good here.
This should be simple: Is the government empowered to do an action? If not, then a government employee should not be allowed to coerce OR persuade someone else to do that act on their behalf. Full stop.
This isn't a terribly controversial thing that the courts have never endorsed. Courts have long acknowledged in cases of Harassment and Discrimination that mere "jawboning" can create a hostile atmosphere that crosses lines. And just as I cannot make a habit of commenting on a woman's figure at work, it is inappropriate for government employees to make a habit of opining on which speech should be allowed or who should be associated with.
"This should be simple: Is the government empowered to do an action? If not, then a government employee should not be allowed to coerce OR persuade someone else to do that act on their behalf. Full stop."
Wow! Kinda overly broad, perhaps? You work for the government, you may not... Persuade someone to join your church... Marry you... Sleep with you... Go to the movies with you... Join you at the bar after work... HOW MUCH snooping will be required to ENFORCE this? Wow! Just WOW!!! Power-pig much?
No, it’s not overbroad. And the fact you’re acting like it is makes me think ML calling you a Nazi isn’t far off.
Your authoritarianism is showing!
Reason's argument is like this:
You aim at your target but hit 2" low. You keep landing low so eventually you adjust and aim 2" higher. This isn't because your sights are out of focus, you just aren't considering external factors to your shot. Changing your sight settings isn't really the answer.
Reason kicks in by yelling, now that you have aimed high to compensate, "BuT yOu Arndt AiMiNg PrEcIsElY aT yOuR tArGeT!"
No shit... I am trying to actually *hit* my target.
If we are going to be overbroad between too much leeway for the state or too much restriction on the state... anyone who even remotely sounds like they are arguing for deference to the state should be run out of town.
Well said.
So passing shitloads of new laws is just like shooting at targets? Because all of our random misses will NOT do ANY harm? What planet did you say you were from?
You sure hate rules constraining bureaucratic power, don't you? Stupid Nazi fuck.
So randomly shooting everyone in sight is "rules constraining bureaucratic power", now? I'll take that accusation and stand by it! The only thing needed for the triumph of Mammary-Fuhrer's evil, and evil at large, is for good humanoids to do nothing! So I am NOT going to do, and say, NOTHING, in the face of YOU and Your Perfect EVIL, Internet Cesspool Queen-Bee-Yotch-Rotted-Crotch!
You mean like how you guys shot Ashley Babbit?
Umm, making laws isn’t target shooting. There’s nothing but laziness or intentional overreach stopping legislators from being as precise as they can get in the drafting of a law.
That would be like saying when one is writing a computer program one is only allowed to include a maximum of 10 if statements.
Obviously the potential adverse side effects brought out here are not intended, and they'll be fixed in the final version by the time the Republicans have the power to pass it. It's a good thing this bill's in the hopper, not troubling at all. Even if by some fluke it were enacted as currently written, it'd be an improvement over the status quo.
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When a government agent makes "suggestions", there is always an implied threat. Consider:
You are driving and stopped at a red light. The guy behind you starts honking continuously. You decide to give him the finger but when you look behind you, you see a cop. He's being an asshole and deserves the finger, but your desire for self preservation overrules your finger.
A government agent can post anything he wants, but only anonymously. If he wants his profile to be public, he must restrict his speech.
I, your regulator, am demanding you do this in my after hours time as a private citizen. Don’t think your refusal might mean official consequences. Honest.
Bullshit.
Sometimes, a restrictive law is better than not if it serves to restrain a government agent who has legislature derived power that is not within the powers granted by the Constitution.
For instance, passing a "Right to Work" law is sometimes necessary to ameliorate the damage done by the Wagner Act which compels employers to deal with a union if 50%+ workers choose to join that union.
Limiting what a government employee can say is only made necessary by the unconstitutional power that employee has. Deprive the employee of his improper power, and his suggestions to censor are reduced to the level of what a non-government employee can suggest.
free to disagree with the government
Wouldn't that be wonderful?
What's wrong with limiting the speech of Federal employees?
We can start there and then follow up with imprisoning them.
I'd rather start with eliminating 90% of the positions they hold.
" the FBI's correspondence with the platform was "constant and pervasive." Taibbi found that "there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth" between January 2020 and November 2022"
which comes down to about 4 a month. This is why I stopped paying for Matt's nonsense.
So you're defending the FBI's conduct?
That was just the FBI's and doesn't include other governmental agencies. Also, those "just four a month", or often less from some agencies, many times contained an attached list of those they wanted banned or of which they wanted their tweets removed. "Four a month" can be quite a bit based on what was included in those requests.
Anyone who is for just a "small incursion" into violating our Constitutional rights, and see no problem with such, would also cheer on a large scale invasion, since it would totally silence those with whom they disagree.
Waiting for an answer.
Looks like dmbierlein isn't willing to support his claim that a little bit pregnant isn't much to worry about.
Only 4 times a month, every month, for 1 year and 10 months? Doesn't sound a wee bit excessive to you?
Also 22 months divided into 150 contacts exceeds 4 a month.
dmbierlein, fuck off and die, slaver.
Since the ratification of the US constitution, the feds, ie., lawmakers, LEOs, courts, have conspired to deny rights, for fun & profit (control & personal financial exploitation). What was the justification for giving an elite the power to initiate violence against us? PROTECTION OF RIGHTS! What happens? DENIAL OF RIGHTS! Could it be we are supporting the wrong political paradigm? Can violence protect us from violence? Or, should we use REASON, RIGHTS, CHOICE? Do we need a new political paradigm? Think about it. Freedom hangs in the balance.
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It could be written a lot better.
OR the judiciary could just UPHOLD the US Constitution (as it's their F'Job to do so) and prosecute politicians who VIOLATE it (as it should).
I do find it a bit UN-comfortable to be writing any legislation with wording to control the press. Even though it's worded inline with the Constitutional Ideals; It's still has an uncomfortable premise of putting the legislation in charge of it. This is a CONSTITUTIONAL violation / NOT a legislative law violation (those can change). There should be prosecutions, fires, and impeachments - not giving Power to the very source of this disgrace.
Does Reason need me to write an algorithm to get rid of these ridiculous bots of advertisement (if so, please call)? They are annoying and inane.
A child can see through them. Why are we compelled filter on our own? If Reason can't take care of this triviality, perhaps the rest of Reason's wisdom should be questioned as Sophistry.
Reason immediately suffered TDS when Trump announced. I am a long time reader and it changed then. Not sure why they hate Trump, probably just believed all the left’s lies, but that they hate Trump is indisputable and by extension all the GOP.
So yes, Reason’s wisdom should be questioned as Sophistry. It is dishonesty. It is propaganda. It is destructive.
All you have to do is look at the US before and after Jan. 20th, 2021 and you see the decline immediately. Trump was a brief interruption in the dastardly plans of the Democrats started under Obama, and Trump was severely hamstrung by the corrupt bureaucracy Obama built in 8 years.
Reason didn’t change, but the commentariat sure did. Commenter who seemed to be libertarians during the Obama administration turned out to merely be anti-Democrat partisans. Many other rudely-behaved MAGA commenters suddenly showed up and started ruining every conversation.
TDS right there.
They moved their headquarters to D.C.
From what I can tell that just about pegged their dis-association with the Libertarian principles.
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All government action causes unintended consequences, That is why government should be small and limited. Government should guarantee equal opportunity, not pick winners and losers.
What Reason gets wrong is that the GOP can fight the criminal, corrupt, lying, disgusting Joe Biden the Democrats and their propaganda media by playing fair. It is like taking a knife to a gun fight, you will lose. While I would prefer they didn’t have to do that, it is the only way to stop the march to socialism and the dictatorship of the left and keep our Republic, democracy, freedom and liberty.
“the GOP can fight the criminal, corrupt, lying, disgusting Joe Biden the Democrats and their propaganda media by playing fair”
If they can fight fair, then why don’t they fight fair?
(Just messing with you. Obviously, the thesis statement of your comment has a typo.)
Prohibiting government officials from interfering or restricting free speech doesn’t seem overly broad to be.
In fact, this could and probably should go further and limit the actions of government officials in any capacity, even when they are not at work.
It is an American delusion the government officials should be treated in their private lives like anybody else.
Like joining the military, when you voluntarily choose to work for the government, you should give up a substantial part of your freedoms to act as a condition of employment.
With only a few specified exceiptions, what web site owners refuse to remove from their web sites is not the states' or the fed's business.
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