The Perils of Trying To Curtail Hazily Defined 'Disinformation'
A government-supported organization's controversial ratings of online news sources illustrate the challenge of deciding what qualifies as disinformation.

NewsGuard, a service that rates adherence to basic principles of good journalism, gives this website its highest possible score. Yet the Global Disinformation Index (GDI), a British organization that aims to steer advertisers away from disreputable websites, claims Reason is one of the 10 "riskiest" online news sources in the United States.
The stark contrast between those two assessments illustrates the challenge of defining "disinformation," an increasingly nebulous concept that invites subjective judgments driven by political allegiances and policy preferences. That problem is especially acute when the government demands that websites take steps to curtail "disinformation," portraying it as a grave threat to public health, democracy, and national security.
The GDI, which receives financial support from the National Endowment for Democracy, purports to offer "neutral" estimates of the likelihood that a website will promote disinformation. Counterintuitively, its "risk" ratings do not require any actual examples of inaccurate reporting, let alone deliberate misrepresentations.
The GDI ratings are instead based on 16 "indicators" under two "pillars": "content" and "operations." The organization says Reason's "high" risk rating was due to a lack of explicitly stated policies regarding "authorship attribution," fact checking, corrections, and moderation of reader comments.
The GDI emphasizes that its "content" judgments are based on a sample of articles that reviewers analyze without knowing the source or author, which it says helps "maintain nuance and neutrality." But several of the "indicators" require judgments that are bound to be influenced by the reviewers' personal opinions.
In assessing "article bias," for example, reviewers are supposed to consider whether the writer uses "faulty logic" or "unfairly engages with different views on the story." Reviewers also look for "negative targeting" of "individuals or institutions," which is supposedly distinct from "criticism" based on "solid reasoning" and "strong evidence."
The GDI says its ratings do not hinge on whether reviewers agree with the opinions that writers express. But it beggars belief to suppose that people who read articles that contradict their own views won't be especially inclined to perceive "faulty logic," insufficient attention to other perspectives, weak reasoning, and inadequate evidence.
It is therefore not surprising that all 10 of the "riskiest" sources identified by the GDI are conservative or libertarian, while nearly all of the 10 "lowest-risk" sites, which include NPR, The New York Times, HuffPost, and BuzzFeed News, lean left. Although the GDI insists that "the index does not assess partisanship or the specific political, religious or ideological orientation of the site," it explicitly considers "the degree to which the site is likely to adhere to an ideological affiliation."
The GDI combines dubious methods with a dodgy definition of "disinformation." You might think that disinformation, as distinct from misinformation, requires an intent to deceive. But the organization disavows that requirement because it "cannot be directly measured."
The GDI's definition of disinformation nevertheless describes it as "intentionally misleading." The organization contradicts itself again when it says "all newsrooms are vulnerable to disinformation risks, ranging from everyday human error to more nefarious tactics" (emphasis added).
You might also think disinformation, at the very least, must be false. The GDI thinks that criterion is also too demanding, because it is "extremely difficult to assess at scale" and because "a statement that is technically true can be presented out of context in a misleading and harmful way."
In short, the folks at the GDI know disinformation when they see it, although they do not claim that "high risk" websites actually promote it—only that they might. That attitude reflects a broader problem: Everyone agrees that disinformation is bad, but people disagree about what the category includes.
Given this confusion, the federal government's efforts to squelch "disinformation," which include pressure on social media platforms and subsidies for groups like the GDI, are especially chilling. Even "intentionally misleading" speech is protected by the First Amendment, and a government that respects freedom of speech has no business deciding how to apply that slippery label.
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For all the talk about Medical Misinformation/Disinformation/Malinformation (MDM *Growl!*) no one in Government is talking against such obviously or at least potentially unhealthy, deadly things on YouTube and TikTok such as:
* Fat Pride/Fat Acceptance,
* Vintage pre-1971 tobacco commercials,
* TV liquor ads from overseas,
* "Extreme sports,"
* Bull-Riding and Bull-Fighting,
* Stupid dares like cinnamon-snorting and eating Tide Pods,
and so much else that can take away self-generated, self-sustaining action.
What more, a lot of these unhealthy, deadly things overlap with demographics most at risk for COVID-19.
Or is all of this just "a hobgoblin of little minds?"
Good points, thanks!
PS, another one for your consideration... If a SCIENCE experiment (psychological or otherwise) is proposed, it MUST be run through 12 or 20 "ethics committees" to get approved first... NO bunny wabbbittts may be hurt by this experiment, in this universe, or any other possible parallel universe!
But if you want to create a "reality TV show", NO such approval is needed! Hence, cases of murder and mayhem committed by the "reality actors" afterwards, after, um, "psychological torture", being lied to, and abused on the show! Takeaway: Quests for KNOWLEDGE are suspect and DANGEROUS!!! Quests for AMUSEMENTS for the pubic get a free pass, totally!
Disinformation = lie
Criminalize lying. Prove it
Is your post for the Church of Sqrls, Tim the Enchanter and his magic flute mis, dis or mal information?
It's all part of my “reality TV show”, which means that it's all VERY real!
(Best of all, being a “reality TV show”, it is EXEMPT from most ninnying and nannying from Government Almighty! Would YOU like to become a Scienfoologist, and join my Most Sacred and Sincere Church?)
What more, a lot of these unhealthy, deadly things overlap with demographics most at risk for COVID-19.
I don’t think grandma is doing many of those things you listed.
Grandmas do smoke and drink. According to something I read from The American Association of Retired Pharts, there is even a problem of drug addiction among rest home residents.
Those certainly could be high-risk behaviors for COVID-19, since smoking impairs cardiopulmonary function and drinking and drugs could impair judgement and put people in high-risk situations.
I know I'd want to be on drugs if I lived in a rest home.
Surprisingly, smoking doesn't seem to correlate with bad covid outcomes.
Are you kidding? Smoking weakens the body's defenses against infection and increases likelihood of hospitalization.
The connection between smoking, COVID-19
November 30, 2020
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/the-connection-between-smoking-covid-19/
And
Researchers find correlation between smoking history and COVID-19 severity
February 08, 2021
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/news/2021/researchers-find-correlation-between-smoking-history-and-covid-19-severity
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The three most abused concepts by official bureaucrats: public health, democracy, and national security. None of them are actually enumerated powers of government in the Constitution. In the first place, “threats” to them aren’t actually threats to anything real. In the second place, government actions against claimed “threats” to them don’t actually improve the public health, democracy or national security (whatever you might mean by them). And finally, officials who abuse their power by taking official action against things they claim to be threats don’t actually want to protect democracy or health or national security, they want to protect their own power, prestige, privilege and avoid having to do productive work in the private sector. Next up: "interstate commerce."
Yeah man, “interstate commerce" means that I can NOT buy my health insurance from another state... And “interstate commerce" ALSO means that since booger rags are traded across state borders, Congress Shall Have The Power to tell me when and where I may and may not blow my nose!
(I blow my nose in their general direction.)
"And finally, officials who abuse their power by taking official action against things they claim to be threats don’t actually want to protect democracy or health or national security, they want to protect their own power, prestige, privilege and avoid having to do productive work..." of any kind, anywhere.
My 2 cents.
Hold on a minute: you can claim that there's a lot of power grabs in the name of national security that are an abuse of power, and violations of individual rights, but you can't say "national security" isn't enumerated in the Constitution. Those powers are pretty explicitly spelled out in Article 1, Section 8. Article 2 Section 2 makes some slight reference to those powers as well, but it's clearly not powers of the President (though don't tell Congress that their AUMFs are probably unconstitutional).
GDI is a metric used to shield progressive media outlets via a biased ranking system.
How did those that ranked with solid “truthiness” do with covid, vaccines, or Russiagate?
Hey GDI, GFY!
It is an industry built on the success of the open and honest, totally not biased, home of the ‘true but look over here’ false rating, fact checking industry.
How did those that ranked with solid “truthiness” do with covid, vaccines, or Russiagate?
Greenwald and the commenters here were the only ones who did well.
Progressives at GDI used feelingz to establish the parameters to be analyzed. A better approach would be to start with known events that had been misreported (Russiagate, Teitter censorship, assault fire extinguishers, masking etc) to find commonality for evaluation then work backwards to see how media outlets fared.
The progressives here use feelingz in their arguments as fact. When others share previous posts by those same progressives showing incongruity (such as with support for Ukraine or child gender reassignment surgery), it is met with more feelingz of goalpost shifting, chaff & redirect, hostility (incorrectly assigning logical fallacies), claiming the account had been doppelgängered or crickets.
Because the progressives’ feelingz were true at the time of their first statement as well as later when they make an incompatible statement (of fact), both can be true because they had feelingz both times. For some of them, I don’t think it is intentional lying. I think they just approach logical discussions with feelingz.
"I think they just approach logical discussions with feelingz."
Like feelingz about stolen erections?
WHEN is Der TrumpfenFuhrer taking BACK His Big Lie?
https://reason.com/2022/02/11/sidney-powell-disowns-her-kraken-saying-she-is-not-responsible-for-her-phony-story-of-a-stolen-election/ (Yet another Powell article)
https://reason.com/2021/03/23/sidney-powell-says-shes-not-guilty-of-defamation-because-no-reasonable-person-would-have-believed-her-outlandish-election-conspiracy-theory/
Sidney Powell Says She’s Not Guilty of Defamation Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Have Believed Her ‘Outlandish’ Election Conspiracy Theory
Which particular lies are you wanting to hear and believe today, hyper-partisan Wonder Child?
"Feelingz... nothing more than feeeeeeeelingz..."
"the challenge of deciding what qualifies as disinformation"
You misspelled "folly," or perhaps "evils."
Dear Reason, stop taking this GDI thing so hard. The entire purpose of that enterprise is to cast aspersions on media with countervailing view points. Also, stop being so gullible as to give these idiots legitamacy by trying to defend against such a blatant hit job. Once you’ve done that, we can talk about realigning your ‘editors’ with libertarian principles.
"Libertarian principles" like worshitting Saint Babbitt and Blessing ALL of Der TrumpfenFuhrer's fever dreams and wet dreams about stolen erections, perhaps?
Exactly: The peril IS the point of the exercise. "Disinformation" has been nothing more than an excuse for censorship from the day they started using the term.
Reason being listed is the biggest unearned compliment they've ever received.
They'll highlight their inclusion because it's a claim to credibility, even though we all know they pitch the same lies as the rest of the MSM.
But being on the list allows them to pose as alternative/opposition.
It's mildly amusing that GDI is apparently peddling disinformation, though.
Reviewers also look for "negative targeting" of "individuals or institutions," which is supposedly distinct from "criticism" based on "solid reasoning" and "strong evidence."
Did sullum cause this score with his 100 trump articles and claims of nuclear secrets being sold?
So you're with GDI on this one. Got it.
Lolwut?
The state should be all powerful because it follows The Science, which is a consensus enforced by the state.
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1. Science is by consensus of the informed.
2. Science deniers should not be allowed to promulgate anything that contradicts the informed consensus.
I often get the feeling that most of those who whine about science deniers, could not do a double integral if their life depended on it.
I remember when Climate Change was called Global Warming.
I remember, that when they looked at the data and it wasn't showing Global Warming, thus they changed the name to Climate Change.
Later they went back and corrected the data [i.e. change the data to fit the politics], so it shows Global Warming.
Anyone wonder why they didn't change the name back? Apparently they saw benefits of being able to blame every bad storm or natural disaster on Climate Change.
The definition of 'disinformation' is clear and precise; anything that assists the democrats in destroying America is accurate and truthful, anything else is disinformation.
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Just seeing that the NY Times and WAPO are on the "least risky" list tells me this study is bullshit.
Strange that newsguard seems to have the same ideological bias that other 'non-partisans' do -their misinformation reports tend to omit left-leaning and progressive groups.
The federal government needs to establish a cabinet level agency to manage misinformation:
Department
Of
Information
Necessitating
Control
DOINC
i.e. The gestapo police.
I read their published product. One reason why Reason.com is on their naughty list is because it says it has no "policies to prevent disinformation in its comments section."
IOW, Reason is on that list is because of the annoying spam money making comments that it doesn't remove.
This is a Sullum article, right?
So, more that the information masters are aware and afraid that some actual truth might leak out in the comment section.
He may have been fictional, but he was right
“Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.” ― Pravin Lal
And before any sophists chime in do be aware that misinformation - no matter how defined - is always and only a subset of information.
This guy wasn't fictional.
“I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” ― Thomas Jefferson
Ah, so Reason is on the list to send a message to shut its comment section down...
How far the Brits have fallen. This GDI is a government-funded censor?
I'm sure that Brits no longer read John Milton. Probably don't even know who he is.
And though all the winds of doctrine were let loose to play upon the earth, so Truth be in the field, we do injuriously, by licensing and prohibiting, to misdoubt her strength. Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter? Her confuting is the best and surest suppressing.
John Milton - Areopagitica
Course Sullum is a deceitful little ass who spends as much time publishing falsehoods as truth and doesn't much care about the difference as long as one is new.
But GDI IS an evil obscenity.
Brace yourself for Google DI with added GCP! All those moronic planks replacing the original good libertarian planks are starting to pay off. The "uninspected terrorist entry" plank now makes it easy to point to the LP as advocating Saracen Sky-kamikaze attacks on NY skyscrapers. The even newer "vigilantes-only" death sentence plank underscores that vandalism. Mises-nazis deleting every hint that women might have 13th Amendment rights as individuals now diverts non-Trumpanzee women voters to the Dems.
Areopagitica doesn’t hit nearly as hard as with the original spelling and punctuation.
Yeah I know. Kind of like Shakespeare without the bawdy double entendres and characters and plot.
But there is something to be said for let Truth and Falsehood fight it out in the open. If Truth doesn't win, then there is no God. But at least we can then decide whether we can be good.
NewsGuard, a service that rates adherence to basic principles of good journalism, gives this website its highest possible score.
It was good that you led right off with an acknowledgement that the NewsGuard rankings are worthless.
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I think "Reason" "used" up its annual "quota" of quote "marks" in "this" "article".
"Good" "one", though.
"Can" "I" "quote" "You" "on" "this" "Deeply" "Profound" "and" "Meaningful" "comment"?
Can I unmute you "just" long enuff to tell you to fuck off, you tedious, addled Prog?
Why, yes, I think I can.
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Schrödinger’s Squirrel - it is either plastering wall of copy pasta nonsense or it has been muted.
Since I know who the whiny bastard is:
Fuck off and die, spastic asshole.
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Richard Gere’s squirrbil recently used up all of their ALL CAPS SPASTIC OUTBURSTS allowance. It was a shame because they had only started to recover after the passing of Mike Hihn.
Thanks to Sullum's reporting, a pattern emerges. Google just went this threat GCP against "calling out prohibitions on certain actions, including activity that promotes terrorism or child sexual exploitation." Since 1990 I have labored to have the 1980s child molester plank removed from the LP platform. Now even Google is upset about such dumb planks that can ONLY anger and alienate voters. Let's reset to the sensible 1972 Libertarian Platform to get rid of anarco-Woke and MAGA amendments made by saboteurs.
The proper journalist response would be to find out who in the US government authorized over 300 million to be spent by a foreign entity to subvert the first amendment.
I'm glad to see Reason picking up this beat.
Here's a video I've shared several times which was streamed *looks at video* four years ago, with Sharyl Attkisson who does a very deep journalistic dive into the origins of "fake news" and the spread of disinformation online. She literally traces the origin of the term "fake news", traces down the specific organization that pushed it (hint, it was Google exec Eric Schmidt through one of his non-profits designed to... um, fortify elections).
Strongly recommend this video. It's long, but I've linked the part where it really starts to get interesting.
It occurs to me that the USA Government Almighty is SOOOO Deeply Concerned about “misinformation” here, and says (forcibly, with YOUR tax money) that we need to be more data-driven, more “scientific”-minded. Yet the USA Government Almighty is itself a HUGE driver of non-scientific nonsense!
Take the USA FDA, for example, which (alone among all nations on the planet) claims that common citizens are entirely TOO stupid to give themselves permission to blow upon a cheap plastic flute! WHERE is there ANY data to support this decision?
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So in summary, a British company, in a country that's doesn't have constitutional speech protections, has a problem with free speech.
Hey; none of the Democrats that say, "screaming 'fire' in a movie theater has to be illegal" mentioned anything about whether the scream had to be a lie or not. Just saying it should be illegal according to them; true or not. Ya know like calling them 'traitors' for violating the Constitution (of which they don't acknowledge in their Nazi-Empire) being entirely true ... but apparently also must be entirely illegal.
But hey; there's a bit of light at the end of the tunnel --- Leftard politicians apparently have every right to call disgruntled parents at commie-education centers domestic terrorists and ... Ya know; send the "armed" FBI on a witch-hunt. And ya know that protest with fire-extinguishers as domestic terrorists. And ya know, etc, etc, etc, etc......
It was humorous watching Democrats 1) Completely IGNORE the US Constitution during the Weaponization hearing, 2) Keep insisting that free-speech doesn't exist while they labelled parents domestic terrorists, 3) PROJECTING all their guilt onto the committee hearing itself and Jan 6 fire-extinguisher domestic terrorists.
Misinformation is like porn: I know it when I see it. And YOU are misinformation.
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Stupid pile of lefty shit.
Misinformation is like porn: I know it when I see it. And YOU are misinformation.
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Even with a "perfect" definition, attempting to ban disinformation has the opposite effect. The ONLY legitimate means of combating false information is to actually argue both sides of the issues.
The Perils of Trying to curtail rights!
"America" is 100s of millions of different lifestyles, opinions, values.
A few can't force their values of all, morally or practically. How do I know? That is the worldwide political paradigm that is failing and has failed forever. It works for an elite at everyone else's expense, but not completely, not in the long run. Concentrated political power creates concentrated wealth, poverty.
The less initiation of force, threats, the freer, the wealthier/happier the populace. So, why not eliminate authoritarianism completely? Why not show respect for each person's "right to life" by letting all "live & let live", i.e., run their own life, reaping the benefits, and vice versa?
Anything less is anti-human, uncivilized, disrespectful of others. It's only logical.
BTW:
"...Yet the Global Disinformation Index (GDI), a British organization..."
There's the problem right there: A "British" organization whining about lack of censorship on this site.
Pretty sure this site, just last week, ran an article on how Brits are subject to arrest for "silent prayer" in certain locations, and someone is to take a Brit operation seriously when it comes to a lack of censorship?
Tell 'em to fuck off and die.
Fabians the lot of them. Brits allowed sexually degenerates (Keynes) and trust fund marxists to infect their society and it led to their downfall. Can't let that occur in America.
Not sure about Keynes; his theories are based on a fantasy every bit as fantastic as Marxism: His requires a government to reduce taxes in prosperous times, Marxism needs humans to act in ways other than their own best interest.
Keynes came from there (and read his pronouncements regarding the WWII bombing campaigns for some real fantasies), but British failures stem from far worse that JMK; you had it on the fabians, and the lack of the press to warn.
Reason might finally get who the real enemies are. Not those folks who disagree with ENB on abortion or Nick on immigration or Scott on sexually mutilating kids. no the real enemy are the bolsheviks who control the corporate media, academia, wall street, big tech and most of western govts. Get on board Reason...the enemy are these folks and the rest of the cultural marxist, authoritarian elites.
Reason can’t avoid engaging in misinformation even when covering its own rating in that regard.
There’s a lot here about how GDI’s ranking relies on subjective judgments and qualitative factors. No comparison to NewsGuard's methodology – which also turns on assessments that require subjective evaluation.
The broad complaint that “left-leaning” outlets score well under GDI’s ranking carefully omits reference to the WSJ and USA Today, which are right-leaning media sources blessed by GDI, and also carefully avoids admitting that GDI’s “risky” list includes notorious misinformation outlets like Newsmax, OANN, and The Federalist.
Never mind that it’s actually hard to understand how Reason fares well under NewsGuard’s methodology, since much of its “reporting” seems to run afoul of the factors NewsGuard claims to apply in its ranking. It almost seems like NewsGuard is a by-conservatives, for-conservatives answer to more accurate measures of misinformation – just another layer of right-wing misinformation.
Are MSNBC, Vox, or Huffpost really so much less misinformation outlets than Newsmax or OAN? The complaint with GDI's claim of being "nonpartisan" should be that their list of the "riskiest" outlets are 100% associated with the far-right in the minds of "progressives", who don't make a distinction between those who question their ideas because their numbers never work out vs those who question them out of ideological animus, and who also no longer seem to see a distinction between ideas which were at the core of liberalism for centuries and actual fascist authoritarinism (which is pretty much just a slight variation on what progressives see as "good governance" in which gender is more rigidly defined).
If NewsGuard were a creation of the right wing, would they give perfect/near-perfect ratings to outlets like NYT and WaPo? Or be targeting PragerU (and apparently now Dave Rubin's podcast which is generally clear about being commentary/opinion as opposed to "news") the way they are?
Anyone who doesn’t immediately grasp that if you give the State the power to suppress ‘disinformation’ the State will label any criticism of the State as disinformation is too stupid to be let outdoors without supervision.
Grandmas do smoke and drink. According to something I read from The American Association of Retired Pharts, there is even a problem of drug addiction among rest home residents.
Those certainly could be high-risk behaviors for COVID-19, since smoking impairs cardiopulmonary function and drinking and drugs could impair judgement and put people in high-risk situations...........t.ly/YMFj
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