She Was Jailed for Basic Journalism. A Federal Court Isn't Sure if That's Unconstitutional.
Priscilla Villarreal's case will be heard again tomorrow at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit. She has attracted some unlikely supporters.

Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) is most known for its work taking up controversial religious freedom cases. They famously defended Jack Phillips, a baker who was the subject of a high-profile suit after he declined to make a cake for a same-sex wedding. More recently, the organization argued in front of the U.S. Supreme Court in favor of Lorie Smith, a website designer who preemptively challenged a Colorado law so that she would not have to design wedding sites for gay couples in violation of her religious beliefs.
They are not known for defending foul-mouthed, left-leaning journalists whose bread and butter consists sometimes of criticizing the police. They're doing so anyway.
That journalist is Priscilla Villarreal, whose presence in Laredo, Texas, is associated with her profanity-laced commentary on law enforcement and who police jailed for the crime of asking the government questions, getting answers, and publishing those responses. That would appear to be a fairly cut-and-dry infringement on her First Amendment rights. Yet, it's a question that has stumped the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit in a case that could have far-reaching implications for anyone engaged in journalism, regardless of their political bent.
In 2017, Villarreal found herself in a jail cell after publishing two stories on her popular Facebook page, Lagordiloca, which as of this writing has attracted 202,000 followers. The first story pertained to a Border Patrol agent who committed suicide; the second revealed the identity of a family involved in a deadly vehicle accident. The stories were standard. But Villarreal had already drawn the ire of the local police department with her reporting, which has included, among other things, a livestream of an officer choking someone at a traffic stop and heavy criticism levied at a local prosecutor.
So the Laredo Police Department (LPD) moved to criminally charge her for that reporting, citing a Texas law that forbids obtaining "nonpublic information" from the government if the person doing so—in this case, Villarreal—has an "intent to benefit." Richly ironic is that it was the LPD that gave her the information she requested. Even more absurd is that her alleged "intent to benefit" in seeking the information was getting more Facebook followers.
It's a logic that would render any sort of journalistic activity illegal, when considering that all media outlets seek out nonpublic information (it's called "reporting") and do so to bring in revenue via subscriptions or social media followers (it's called "a business").
Which brings me back to ADF. "Ms. Villarreal's right to gather and publish truthful news has been clearly established for decades," ADF attorneys Rory T. Gray and John J. Bursch write in their amicus brief. "It was plainly unconstitutional for Defendants to attempt to bar Ms. Villarreal from using standard journalistic techniques to uncover and report news. Defendants' harassment of Ms. Villarreal, efforts to bar her from seeking non-public information from officials, and better treatment of the general public makes the First Amendment violation plain."
Villarreal has little in common with Jack Phillips and Lorie Smith. I doubt the team at ADF is taking the time to support her because they love everything she has to say or the way in which she chooses to say it. It's because they appear to understand that constitutional rights do not just apply to those who we find appealing.
"The First Amendment transcends tribalism. It's about whether the government can purge people and ideas from the marketplace simply because it doesn't like their views," Gray tells Reason. "Americans deserve better and the Constitution requires it. In this case, a victory for Ms. Villarreal helps preserve free speech for all of us."
That concept is lost on many these days, in a country where political tribalism is often paramount to principle—where Team Blue and Team Red support free speech so long as they like what they hear. Indeed, it may be lost on some of the judges at the 5th Circuit—often described as a conservative body—as seen by their reactions to Villarreal's claim.
For jailing Villarreal, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas gave the Laredo police qualified immunity. In other words, they concluded it was not "clearly established" that jailing a journalist for journalism is a violation of the Constitution, despite the fact that we'd likely expect a middle schooler taking eighth-grade civics to come to the opposite conclusion. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected that initial decision. "If [this] is not an obvious violation of the Constitution, it's hard to imagine what would be," wrote Judge James C. Ho.
But a majority of the 16 judges on the 5th Circuit panel agreed to rehear the case en banc, indicating dissatisfaction with Ho's opinion. They will do so tomorrow. For a view into potential reasons for the judges' opposition, we can look to the words Chief Judge Priscilla Richman: "Villareal's [sic] Complaint says that she 'sometimes enjoys a free meal from appreciative readers, . . . occasionally receives fees for promoting a local business [and] has used her Facebook page [where all of her reporting is published] to ask for donations for new equipment necessary to continue her citizen journalism efforts," she wrote in dissent. "With great respect, the majority opinion is off base in holding that no reasonably competent officer could objectively have thought that Villareal [sic] obtained information from her back-door source within the Laredo Police Department with an 'intent to benefit.'"
In other words, the officers' conduct was justifiable because Villarreal sometimes gets free lunch from her readers and viewers. It's the kind of interpretation that would be funny if it weren't published by one of the most influential courts in the nation, written by one of the most powerful jurists alive today. One doubts that Richman, also known for her conservative jurisprudence, would have come to a similar conclusion had she been a bit more ideologically aligned with the plaintiff.
But ADF is not alone in trying to sway Richman et al. from siding with the government. Also writing in support of Villarreal are Project Veritas, the far-right group founded by James O'Keefe; Americans for Prosperity, the conservative-libertarian activist organization; the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank; the Constitutional Accountability Center, a progressive think tank; and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a group that defends civil liberties in the digital space.
The Venn diagram connecting these groups has very little overlap. To find something they all agree with in the practical sense would be a difficult task. But they can come together on at least one thing, which is that your constitutional right to free speech should not live or die based on the popularity of what you're saying. This basic principle has been lost on some at the 5th Circuit, though they have a chance to right that wrong tomorrow.
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What this boils down to as the pertinent question: Can the government make doxxing illegal?
Keep in mind, that would also include things like revealing the personal information of persons who report being victims of sexual assaults and such.
Aside, it is fascinating the sometimes how Reason juxtaposes articles. The one down below on the no fly list leak demanding such information be kept secret. Despite the leak being apparently no more pr less an "act of journalism" than what this article is defending.
What this boils down to as the pertinent question: Can the government make doxxing illegal?
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away both journalists and cops could be more generally respectable people. Ethical journalists recognized the difference between reporting the news and manufacturing the news. Cops and journalists both shared a "Just the facts" ethos. The idea of a police dispatcher colluding with a reporter to get cameras onto a crime scene before police got there was equally unethical from both a policing and a journalism perspective. There was an element of self-regulation. If a journalist was being unduly, or even criminally, offensive or intrusive with their investigative liberties even little girls were expected to know how to regard them properly.
We don't live in that galaxy any more.
More found footage from a time when we respected the media more than we do now.
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Cops were never respectable. The rise of smartphones has merely revealed what they were always like if not worse.
Considering that, for much of US history, cops weren't a part of some special breeding program or the result of indoctrination programs and/or graft and were, instead, largely people who walked in off the street. Your statement carries a distinct tone of "People on the street were never respectable."
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Power corrupts.
“The First Amendment transcends tribalism. It's about whether the government can purge people and ideas from the marketplace simply because it doesn't like their views,"”
The first amendment is an inalienable right, meaning it can’t be sold, given or taken away by anyone. We each carry them all everywhere we go.
Government has nothing to do with it.
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Yes, a Nazi likes you depends on the first amendment. Even though you would eliminate it if you gained power. Like your Fuhrer did when your lefty took control of Germany.
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This is how I clearly and unambiguously ensure that what I say represents truth, reality.
I value the inalienable human right to free speech.
I value the supremacy of correctly applied logic and science in discerning and demonstrating truth aka reality.
I value the application of both in open debate to conclude and demonstrate that truth can never be refuted while untruths can be.
I commit that if what I say is ever refuted, I’ll never say it again.
Who else can honestly say this and back it up as I do?
Does this represent the character of your Nazi bogeyman?
Everything you’ve posted has been refuted. There is a mountain of evidence that proves the Holocaust happened. You hold Nazi views and love for the ascendency of your new Reich.
Even the pedophile and the groomer hate you. You’re too loathsome even for them. So just go away.
You can’t post even a single link to anyone ever refuting what I said.
Some feeble minded fuckwits have tried and failed miserably.
But the rest of you fuckwits haven’t even the confidence to pick up what they dropped and tried to run with it.
All you do is bleat naaazi like sheeple and hope it distracts everyone from your misery.
How’s that working for you?
Hahaha.
I thought you wanted to outlaw lying.
So you think outlawing lying contradicts the first amendment.
Do you also think criminalizing irresponsible gun use violates the second amendment?
Do you think, period?
Piss off nazi.
Is that your idea of refuting what I said?
Hahaha.
If by limited you mean nil, then, yes. There was a time when a number of leftists were intelligent, principled, concerned with individual liberties. That time seems to have passed.
You don’t think that people who apply for jobs tend to have traits in common? Cops, investigative reporters, politicians, surgeons?
I think that betrays a lack of knowledge of how police were recruited and who they were policing.
Pretty sure we all had a pretty good bead on your thinking, but thanks for clarifying.
Pretty sure you know fuck all about this, but thanks for clarifying.
We all know more than you. You are an ant among gods here. Relatively speaking.
No to both of those.
There is a perception of things like cops and reporters being more truthful/honest/decent in the past, but that's largely because any other portrayal was essentially censored. At least on film and TV and in comic books
As with any other profession; doctors, money lenders, ranchers and farmers, brewers, etc., etc., etc. they were a combination of honorable professionals and decent people, and dishonest, despicable, underhanded cutthroats (i.e. humans). You can choose to respect the honor and decency, if not the people, when it occurred, or you can have the galaxy you seem to desire, if not earned.
Interesting comment on galaxies. I would go further: The absence of self-regulation is the problem.
The absence of self-regulation is the problem.
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"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"
Very, Very far away, because never in the history of the American Republic has this mythical "respectable" status been the norm. America's history is full of cops being assholes, and journalists also being assholes. Police abused their duties, and journalists whipped mobs up into populist furies.
I think we SHOULD have more respectable journalists and police, but don't let rose-colored glasses of hindsight convince you that there was once a golden era of respectability. There was not, though perhaps it may have been better at putting the pretenses.
Reason, being progressive, believes "the press" is a special class distinct from everyone else.
Further, they're the exalted secular clergy whose role is to guide the herd.
"What this boils down to as the pertinent question" is not that at all. She published information that was released by the police. If anyone did the doxxing, it was the police department that released the information.
Here's a free hint - if a reporter asks you something, expect to see the answer in print. If you don't what that to happen, exercise your own right to keep your own damn mouth shut.
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They locked her up because they themselves F'Up.
Thank God reason writers don't have to worry about jail.
They leave the news reporting up to us.
When information changes, they'll come around.
Has to evolve a few times. Usually into an elephant. Standing in a room.
Doxxing is bad unless the police are in on it. Then it's just journalism. If you don't believe me, you can go ask KiwiFarms.
And it's totes cool to leak social security numbers, because Trump is icky and people who worked for/with him deserved it.
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"Thank God reason writers don’t have to worry about jail."
Thank Section 230 that Reason.com writers can NOT be punished, by Government Almighty courts, for whatever shit, libel, slander, etc., that JesseBahnFuhrer may freely chose to post to Reason.com comments!
I don't think that's what Section-230 actually says.
What I've gathered is that any writer is still responsible for their words but the host cannot be prosecuted for someone else's words.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're correct, and thank Government Almighty for ONCE for limiting its own power and reach! Thou Shalt Not Use the Courts of Government Almighty to punish Reason.com for the writings (postings) of JesseBahnFuhrer, for example. JesseBahnFuhrer, though, CAN still be punished for the libel or slander in the words written by JesseBahnFuhrer... Which is the common-sense way that it should be, assuming libel & slander are limited to REAL libel & slander, not trivial "you hurt my Precious Baby Feelings" type crap.
It's because they appear to understand that constitutional rights do not just apply to those who we find appealing.
Let's see what happens if she goes full Jan 6 insurrectionist.
By bringing a selfie stick?
This case has brought groups together from all over the political spectrum and is a clear-cut case of police abuse of a person's constitutional rights.
Naturally, the reason.com commentary community will find the controversy nobody else has.
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I doubt the team at ADF is taking the time to support her because they love everything she has to say or the way in which she chooses to say it.
Binion's mind-reading skills are in fine form, today.
The state of modern journalism is deplorable. You rarely find a reporter who knows how to report a story without editorializing.
Reporters usually start on a beat and actually have to be at places where things occur. In the case of Reason, if it doesn’t involve a food truck or cocktail party, staff members haven’t seen it.
That explains all the sex worker stories.
Full page spread
Some titillating information.
"One doubts that Richman, also known for her conservative jurisprudence, would have come to a similar conclusion had she been a bit more ideologically aligned with the plaintiff."
Even more mind-reading from BB.
She's not a journalist if all she has is a "Facebook" page. That makes her no more than some random blogger.
Fortunately, we don’t have government press registration or certification in this country. It’s been well-established that journalism is an action, not a profession. An amateur journalist publishing on her Facebook page has exactly the same first amendment rights and protections as Anderson Cooper.
And everyone else.
Yup. There's no reason to believe that the authors of the Constitution decided that the Press was a professional class. There's no other professions mentioned in the Constitution, there's no other authority by the Constitution to say certain professions have legal protection. Press is an activity, like speech, or practicing a religion., and that activity is protected.
I do not believe "the press" mentioned in the 1st Amendment refers to a profession. It refers to the instrumentality of the printing press. Meaning all the people have the right to utilize mass media.
An amateur journalist publishing on her Facebook page has exactly the same first amendment rights and protections as Anderson Cooper.
If you're working with the police for access that even professional journalists can't/don't/aren't supposed to have, are you still an amateur?
Biden and Google blocking stuff from YouTube is OK because YouTube isn't profitable, right?
What planet is this?Where's the planet with all the actual libertarians on it and how do I get there?You've never seen a first amendment audit on YouTube have you?
Since literally every man, woman, & child in this country has the freedom of the press, your distinction is completely worthless.
The law itself is unconstitutional. "Intent to benefit" would outlaw all mainstream media publishing of "non-public information" as well. The first amendment doesn't have an "intent to benefit" exception.
Especially if prestige counts as a benefit.
As always, innocent until proven guilty. However, I'm pretty sure even would not like to see media figures and police colluding in such a fashion:
I'm tempted to invoke Ken "Popehat" White's rule of goats: If you collude with police to doxx victims for internet fame, even if you only do it ironically, you still colluded with police to doxx victims for internet fame.
"Even many libertarians..." that is.
OK, but the wrongness of doxxing doesn't depend on whether the doxxer gets a free lunch out of it.
She didn't get a free lunch, she got a larger audience to doxx to.
I'm not claiming I've got the solution but it's pretty clear to me that unless you're firmly set on ignoring the problem and lying your ass off to support that ignorance, the issue is more complicated than just "1A, end of story."
Sure, it’s a problem as the desire to expose people who deserve to be exposed – i. e., powerful wrongdoers, is decreased. If you don’t want to cover that, or lack the intelligence to research such stories, you’re going to do celebrity news, press releases for govt, and “punching down” for lowly types who don’t deserve to be dragged through the news.
As for answers, I guess one answer is have is “get more enthusiastic about the real stories and spare us the punching-down and doxxing.”
So, me/we… Joe Commenters and John Q. Public punching back against Reason and the muckraker they’re defending would be punching *up*, right?
At least, I’m sure there are more critical 1A crises, or critical libertarian-interest pieces out there.
Edit: Especially given the non-Federal/local nature of the issue. Any other state passes or already has a "You can't be liable for doxxing anyone with info handed down by the police." law on the books completely circumvents the issue in that/those states, despite Binion's retardation about the 1A (right?).
"The law itself is unconstitutional."
+1000000 As are so many others in this Nazi-Addled nation.
It's funny watching Bozo Billy clutch his Pearl's over this person doxing people for no reason while he and the rest of Reason looked on approvingly as Project Veritas was raided for not running a story they couldn't sufficiently verify. Just goes to show it's not about journalism it's about propping up leftist narratives and attacking people the leftists hate.
So what do you want to do to the leftists?
This fallacy is called a Non-Sequitony.
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Support Section 230, the 1A, and free speech!
As the above article says...
"That concept is lost on many these days, in a country where political tribalism is often paramount to principle—where Team Blue and Team Red support free speech so long as they like what they hear."
Translated: "Fuck free speech, so long as I get to pussy-grab the BAD tribe! Pussy-grabbing the BAD people, in the next 20 minutes, is ALL that matters! So fuck the long-term stable, principled future, right along with free speech!"
Don't forget fees, costs, asset forfeiture and monthly benefits to parole an probation piggies. There may not be victims (other than perps and persecuted truthtellers) but there are a helluva lot of benefits to be flensed outta the hide of anyone dragged into the system
This is the court that established the right to record cops in Turner v Driver. Why they question this is weird.
It’s only weird if:
A) you accept Binion’s version of the story without question,
B) implicit in the above, you believe the right to journalism, with the help of police, superseded the right to privacy and/or testify, or
C) both.
Otherwise, there’s a pretty clear juxtaposition of police acting as civil servants (rather than law enforcement) and the invasion of privacy that occurs in the process.
Um, there is no right to privacy enforceable against Villarreal.
Hey dumb fuck have you got the first clue about what's going on? You know how Villareal knew where those crimes happened and who was involved? The cops.
Even if she didn't get it from the cops, guess what dumb fuck, there's decades of case law demonstrating that her right to journalism is nowhere near unfettered.
Even if she didn't get it from the cops, and there were no 4 or 5A or decades of case law, are you really such a stupid fuck as to argue that she can go wherever she wants and photograph whatever she wants with full immunity?
“Even more absurd is that her alleged “intent to benefit” in seeking the information was getting more Facebook followers.”
Paging Ms. Streisand! Would Ms. Streisand please come to the effects department? Ms. Streisand to the effects department, please!
“They are not known for defending foul-mouthed, left-leaning journalists whose bread and butter consists sometimes of criticizing the police. They're doing so anyway.”
It’s called principles, Billy.
“They are not known for defending foul-mouthed, left-leaning journalists"
Because they are not normally in need of being defended.
I wasn't clear on if it was puzzlement or an attempt to claim principles by proxy.
The fact that, of course, he portrays the ADF as principled or dutiful and the 5th Cir. as divided and confused rather discuss a genuine conflict of liberties is still pretty clear.
Does anybody know what actually happened? Can anybody summarize the actual legal issues involved here? Because I'm not getting any of that out of the article.
The bad guys want this thing, the good guys are trying to keep the bad guys from getting it. The details are secondary.
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Have we gotten so tied up in the "legal" miasma that we can no longer see the forest for the trees? This is an easy case. People have the right to ask government officials for information, and, if they get it, they have the right to disseminate it. (There are some limits--you can't, for example, bribe someone to hand over info etc.)
Reminds me of the thug Xavier Becerra--he got butthurt because some journalists asked for and received a list of bad boy/girl cops--he said that the list was mistakenly given etc. And he threatened them. He should have been prosecuted and put in prison for decades.
'She has attracted some unlikely supporters.' Not for nothing, but groups that are interested in individual and press freedom would tend to support her case. Perhaps if reasonmag 'editors' didn't base their work on what they 'knew' from social media and their in-group, but on research and investigation, this might be more obvious. See also silly bullshit claim about baldwin being charged w/ manslaughter 'may be accepted by some' because of ideological bias. Or 85% of binion pieces.
As long as Julian Assange remains in prison, America can not claim to be so virtuous about the First Amendment.
What happened to the journalist who reported on the Pelosi/DePape incident? Where did he go? What happened to him? And what happened to journalist James Gordon meek who disappeared after the FBI raided his home last April 27? Where is he. Is he even still alive?
The problem with this article (and it's true of a lot of Reason articles) is that the sizzle is more prominent than the steak. The article goes on and on about the injustice of this, without really eviscerating the argument of Chief Judge Richman, and that results in a "talking past each other" feel. Richman argues, basically, that Villarreal's conduct falls completely within the statutory language and that shields the cops.
The problem with this argument is manifest, but it is not addressed by this stupid snark: "In other words, the officers' conduct was justifiable because Villarreal sometimes gets free lunch from her readers and viewers. " No. The problem with this argument is that it waves away something every cop should know--the Supremacy Clause. The First Amendment overrides state statutes, and cops therefore cannot simply rely on the language of a given statute. Once we understand that, then the problems with the cops' actions become obvious. First, Villarreal has a right to ask questions of a government official. No one doubts that. The question is the dissemination, and people have a right, absent a prior agreement with the government, to disseminate information they learn from the government to the public. And cops should know this. The Florida rape victim newspaper case ends that matter.
My question---should Villarreal have the right to resist such an unlawful arrest. I think the answer to that question is yes.
This article, along with most of what Reason publishes, is that Reason should sack most of their writers and start over.
First, Villarreal has a right to ask questions of a government official. No one doubts that.
*Raises hand*
Do you have proof of said question? Because facts on the ground seem to indicate more of an unspoken agreement to broadly share information between an LEO and a tow truck driver rather than a specifically described place or a person or thing sought or seized. To wit, no, the police cannot wink-wink-nudge-nudge a private patsy to go snoop on people to get around *any* of the amendments. Even if you’re an unmitigated fan of the 1A and are certain Villarreal is unmitigatedly innocent, this is a gross misreading in favor of the police colluding with the privileged Journalism Class.
citing a Texas law that forbids obtaining "nonpublic information" from the government if the person doing so—in this case, Villarreal—has an "intent to benefit."
Why are you using quotation marks around phrases that don't actually appear anywhere in the statute you're pretending to quote (when you are in fact paraphrasing)?
She is a mindless pig, I wish they would throw her back in jail.
It's good to see such a diversity of institutions standing up for free speech regardless of its content
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-01-25/citizen-journalists-lawsuit-heard-by-federal-appeals-court
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