New Oregon Wastewater Rules Threaten Portland's Food Cart Culture
Compliance could prove impossibly expensive for independent food sellers.

Food carts in Portland, Oregon, are under the gun due to new state wastewater disposal rules, Portland Monthly reported this week. The new rules, which debut next week, have forced some of the city's world-renowned carts to close—temporarily, they hope—while they try to figure out whether and how to comply.
Portland's beloved food carts are largely stationary vending operations that sell food out of spaces they share with other carts. These spaces, known in Portland as "pods," often feature a dizzying array of foods that put most any food court to shame regarding the variety and quality of foods they offer. Visitors to a pod might find a schnitzel cart parked next to other cart vendors selling steamed bao buns, pizzas, empanadas, meats on sticks, and crepes.
"Part of the reason why carts are so popular [in Portland]: there's a low barrier to entry to starting one, with lower upfront costs and less regulation involved than with brick-and-mortar restaurants," the Monthly details in its excellent piece. "But with new regulations regarding food carts and food cart pods taking effect on January 1, 2023, some cart owners are worried about their ability to keep their businesses open, and some have already made the decision to temporarily close, including Meliora Pasta and Papi Sal's."
The new rules made news this fall.
"Starting in January they must be connected to a sewage line or have their wastewater pumped on a regular basis," KGW8 reported in October. "In 2019, the Oregon Health Authority implemented a new rule that food [] carts and pods can no longer store wastewater. This is an effort to cut down on spills which create health and safety risks."
When it comes to commercial food wastewater disposal, the general approach—from the EPA to state and local regulations—prohibits businesses from dumping untreated wastewater into municipal sewage drains or other waters. As a result, many food businesses—food carts included—hire companies to dispose of such waste.
Today, the Monthly explains, Portland carts may dispose of wastewater "by connecting directly to the sewer with a grease interceptor, by collecting water in the cart's small onboard wastewater tank and frequently emptying that tank, or by collecting water in a large wastewater cube adjacent to the tank." The new rules largely eliminate the latter option and make the second option prohibitively expensive—which is also an inherent and ongoing problem with the first option.
Owners of many food carts, which Portland Monthly rightly calls "the heart" of the city's food culture, are struggling to figure out how to pay for the new disposal expenses. Existing disposal charges for carts have been around $80 per week, according to KGW8, and often involve carts emptying waste regularly into an on-site wastewater "cube" that can hold hundreds of gallons of wastewater and is emptied weekly. But the new rules, Portland Monthly explains, effectively ban such cubes and only allow carts to store small amounts of wastewater in onboard tanks.
Daily wastewater disposal can cost $70—several times the existing cost KGW8 reported—and that's if a wastewater hauler that works with food carts can be found and booked. The Monthly reports there are only two very overbooked haulers in the Portland area. Alternately, hooking up a pod to a municipal wastewater line can cost a property owner tens of thousands of dollars—charges the pod owners pass along to their tenant food carts.
"I've got a bid for a contractor that's $30,000, and we're not gonna do that," Tess Kies, who owns a food cart pod, tells the Monthly. "I know we won't keep [the pod] if the cost is outrageous. I'm concerned that [a lot of the carts around the city] are going to be put out of business."
The new wastewater regulations come at a particularly unwelcome time for Portland's food carts, which (along with other city eateries) have experienced declining revenues during this year's holiday season. Many well-liked carts in Portland already closed for good this year—even before the new rules take effect. Another issue with the new rules is that while they've been in the works for years, some food cart owners say they only found out about them in August. That's one reason some owners, the Monthly reports, are asking the city to delay enforcement.
I support keeping city sewers free of untreated commercial cooking grease and other food waste that can overwhelm them. Recall that in 2014, a "fatberg"—a disgusting blob the length of a Boeing 747 made up of used cooking oil (along with other gag-inducing waste)—was removed, over a period of several days, from a London sewer it was clogging.
Surely, though, there must be some other ways to prevent sewer fatbergs and the introduction of untreated wastewater into rivers and streams than forcing food cart owners to pay thousands of dollars in new fees to dispose of their wastewater. Delaying implementation of the new rules, as some are requesting, seems the least the state, county, and city can and should do. But what about, say, increasing penalties for wastewater spills and dumping? And, given Portland's health department claims wastewater cubes located at pods are sometimes hit by cars—leading to spills—why not require those cubes to be placed in areas no vehicle may access (e.g., by requiring them to be surrounded by inexpensive bollards)? Because the alternative—putting vital small food businesses in Portland's crisis-ridden downtown out of business—is no solution at all.
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Meanwhile, Trump's tax returns have been public for two days, and no giant headlines focusing on the malfeasance found.
You aren't paying attention. Every violation has been extensively reported.
First politician in 5 decades to lose money?
He loses money because he's an incompetent businessman. We've known that for decades.
And yet still in business for decades.
After six corporate bankruptcies, and after developing such a bad reputation for not paying his bills and ripping off investors that he'll likely not have future business opportunities. He should try for another TV show.
Those bankruptcies were over numerous business ventures. This is common. It is not bankruptcy over his entire portfolio.
Even Democratic Party darling Warren Buffett's businesses have filed for bankruptcy several times. I don’t know the total number off-hand.
If you’re doing any amount of business across multiple entities, sooner or later, you’re going to have a failing business. It’s just a numbers game. If you’re filing a business bankruptcy, it’s probably because you’re trying one last effort to keep the business afloat.
That said, Vernon Depner's accusation isn't entirely wrong, and it is one of reasons I disliked Trump before he became president. He was a scumbag used car salesman.
Of course the hardball and fuckovers that make a CEO shitty to deal with, are exactly what you need in a president. That's why the USMCA is better for the US than NAFTA was, and how the Abraham Accords got signed.
"And yet still in business for decades."
By starting with a huge inheritance (distributed over time); shedding some failures through bankruptcy; cheating on taxes; stiffing creditors; abusing investors; making a few bucks selling shoddy goods to gullible, downscale consumers; and scamming a few charities, it might take even a comprehensive failure like Trump quite a while to tap out.
Envy is strong with this one.
Envy is the final frontier for Capt James T Kirkland. Carry on, Klingons!
“cheating on taxes”
All those audits and the publishing of Trump’s tax returns and it’s still all a nothingburger for devotees like Kirkland.
And no takes at a libertarian magazine about the political release of private citizen information.
Especially info you're required by law to provide (else face significant penalties for refusing)
Instead, the TDS crowd is whining that he really isn't successful. Seems he didn't make a killing as a politician, unlike several we can name.
TDS seems to be a very nasty disease, completely blinding one to reality. As for those other politicians, let's start with Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., and where he got his fortune from as a Senator's salary isn't remotely that high. I could go to Nancy Pelosi's insider trading next.
You know who else went in to politics and made a real killing?
Genghis Khan?
Uncle Joe Stalin?
The Clintons?
Brutus?
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Well, you see, most food cart are individuals working for themselves, who tend to be Republican/Independent voters. Chain restaurants, the beneficiary of these changes, tend to be corporations that support the fascists controlling everyone.
Go figure.
Wrong spot.
“tend to be Republican/Independent voters”
In Portland? Are you sure about that?
Poll question for the commentariat:
Is a 19 year old girl kissing a 15 year old boy the same as a 19 year old boy kissing a 15 year old girl?
Yes.
I would think so.
As a practical matter, no, and that’s even if we all tried to be scrupulously gender-blind in addressing complaints.
The reason is that a girl is more likely to develop regrets about the incident, and request social or even legal affirmation for her regrets. That holds for both the 19 and 15 year old girls, but the 15 year old actually has a case. And therefore the situations are not the same.
So young men are incapable of regret? Seems a bit sexist.
Have you ever actually known any teenage boys? Regretting sex is not exactly in their wheelhouse.
Even the ones with genital warts?
They think it was worth it.
Some of them have been known to get a bit crabby in the ensuing days.
Clap, clap
It’s a hairy subject.
Yes. I also have male friends. Many of whom have regretted some of the people they’ve slept with.
Did you have a point?
Yes, but you missed it.
No. I actually didn't.
Youre assertion is any sexual conquest is good for a young boy but women are fragile flowers that can regret it.
I mean your actual statement asserted no young boy regrets it, which is not true.
No, that's not what I said. No wonder you miss the point.
Fuck man. This you?
Regretting sex is not exactly in their wheelhouse.
English not your first language?
Are you trying to pull a sarcasmic here?
Does “not in their wheelhouse” mean something different to you?
Regretting sex is not exactly in their wheelhouse.
.
I mean your actual statement asserted no young boy regrets it,
.
that’s not what I said.
What are you trying to argue here? The back and forth is clear. Stop being sarcasmic.
But regretting not having sex is.
If you’re talking about whether we should give them the same rule sets based on notions of equality and equal protections, I’ll say yes.
There’s a Devils Advocate argument to make about whether the same moral situation exists based on biological, psychological, and social factors. In both cases, the male is likely to have higher testosterone levels, so more likely to be focused on sexual impulses compared to the female. Power dynamics are different as well, depending on context-the fifteen year old boy can likely defend himself against the 19 year old girl if there’s consent issues, whereas the 15 year old girl is more physically vulnerable to the older male. But this is all contextual, and I think this exercise is meant to imply explicit consent?
I don’t think double standards are useful as a prescription. But that doesn’t mean there might not be physiological differences in the meaning of what’s happening.
But many of those same biologic factors could make the case for requiring them to have sex.
Here's Ace stumping for his leftist allies:
https://twitter.com/Ace_Archist/status/1608928761826934791?t=nxyIC9d3mZyOlVIVXYf6FA&s=19
If the sexes were swapped you’d find it gross. Why does the right hold this double standard? Why is it cool if an underage male scores with an adult female?
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Males and females are different with regard to their role in reproduction, therefore there should be a double standard in recognition of that reality.
Correct.
Ace's position is just Reason-style both sidesing and attempting to enforce the leftist paradigm that claims all deviance is normal.
To be honest, older boy or older girl, either way 15 and 19 are too close in age for me to care. 15 and 25, or 9 and 19 on the other hand...
My ranking:
Guy 19, girl 15: that should be discouraged. The girl is too vulnerable.
Gal 19, boy 15: Not the best idea. Some potential hazards for the boy.
Guy 19, boy 15: I'm not too concerned. The boy should be advised about safer sex.
Gal 19, girl 15: who cares.
I guess I have a quadruple standard.
19 girl and 15 boy can be kinda weird, but no big deal.
19 male and 15 girl is creepy.
I don't think there should be a legal distinction, but we have to stop ignoring the differences between the sexes and sexual roles. The vast majority of 15yo boys would be lucky to have a pretty 19yo girl make out with them, and it would be a boon for future confidence. The vast majority of 15yo girls who had a 19yo boy make out with them would rightly be regarded as victims, and likely experience some level of trauma or negative development.
Sex is literally invasive. Males are the invaders. Nature has determined it is their role to spread their seed. Females are the invaded. Their role is to select and nurture.
It is not the same.
The people in that thread trying to say it's the same, or an inappropriate double standard, are just submitting to the leftist postmodern game.
You can still think it's messed up for a 19yo female to make out with a 15yo male, but it isn't as bad as a 19yo male making out with a 15yo female.
Same as taking a child to a strip club is wrong, but taking a child to a drag show is worse.
One is relatively normal sexual behavior being exposed to someone at an inappropriate age. The latter is deviant sexual perversion being introduced to someone at an inappropriate age.
And to be perfectly honest, drag shows are never appropriate. Doesn't mean they should be illegal, but they damn sure shouldn't be approved of by decent human beings.
No. Boys and girls are different, and face different consequences for sexual activity. Also, teenage girls are retarded about men, in a way that's more hazardous for them than a teenage boy being dumb about women.
Yes?
Are we talking the old definition of girl and boy, or the new definition?
There is only one definition.
I'm done with this postmodern "accept/approve everything" bullshit.
Time to stop tolerating cancer.
Speaking as a father of both a daughter and a son... hell no, those two scenarios are not the same. One of those situations likely ends up with a 19 year old in the ER.
I have a co-worker who was 16 when he slept with his friend's mother.
Dude has a lot of issues
jaWohl
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-also-orchestrated-it-uncharged-j6-witness-ray-epps-transcript-released
Meanwhile grandma was sentenced to 4 months for being ushered in by an officer and snapping some photos before leaving.
Too local for Reason, and it doesn't fit the narrative of OrangeManBad.
It totally isn't suspicious that a guy caught by several cameras urging people to storm the capitol remains uncharged; while people taking selfies and staying inside the velvet ropes are imprisoned for years for "parading". Just ask sarcasmic or White Mike.
Other things they swear aren't suspicious is Pelosi telling the police force she's personally in charge of, to stand down on extra measures before the rally. Or Pelosi's own police opening doors for the protesters and ushering them into the building.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/2022s-danger-signs-totalitarian-paranoia-authoritarian-madness
The latter option is the second option. Don't you people have editors? Are you all illiterate?
They are all editors.
They are all illiterate.
Fair.
When everyone's an editor, no one's an editor.
There's three options listed:
- by connecting directly to the sewer with a grease interceptor
- by collecting water in the cart's small onboard wastewater tank and frequently emptying that tank
- by collecting water in a large wastewater cube adjacent to the tank.
That first option was dismissed as prohibitively expensive.
The sentence right before the one you quote lists three options.
Like Humpty Dumpty and progressives, when they use a word, it means exactly what they want it to mean. Even if it doesn't mean that at all. Like "man" or "woman" or "racist". You must accept it, or else.
So here "latter" clearly means the same as "former".
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they're the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"
I've used the same quotes to describe liberalism and post modernism for a decade. Kudos. Totally agree.
This one is clearly a job for a former editor!
Predictions for 2023 (maybe or maybe not to be taken seriously):
1. Somehow Joe Biden will get us into a direct confrontation with a nuclear power. Let's hope it's France.
2. Scott Shackford will, at sometime during the year, defend NAMBLA. Jeffy will, of course, defend Scott.
3. ENB will file more articles about sex workers while whining (again) about the commentariat.
4. Emma Camp will continue to show how shallow her knowledge really is.
5. Fiona will once again champion open borders as long as they don't go to her neighborhood or squat in her living room.
6. Buttplug will deny for 365 days straight that he was ever banned for posting darkweb hardcore child porn links.
7. White Knight Mike (aka @MikeLaursen2) will continue to mute or claim to mute people until he is left talking to his socks. He'll mute them too for talking back.
8. Sam Bankman-Fried did not commit suicide.
9. Merritt Garland will now focus the DOJ's energies on anyone, anywhere, anyhow, anytime that ever said something nasty about the DNC.
10. Illinois is hosed, with New York and California to follow.
11. Eric Boehm will reluctantly support Biden.
Happy New Year!
Does NAMBLA even exist anymore? I thought they were sued into oblivion.
Now the DEI portion of colleges teaching education majors.
No, they're just running the country now.
I think they all became Drag Queens when they realized that way they could fondle children without getting in trouble.
I’m more interested in one particular list to end ‘22. Come on sarc!
POST THE LIST!
I’m number one. He said so yesterday when he was sucking up to Jeff (please somebody, be his friend. He’s so lonely).
sarcasmic 2 hours ago
Mother’s Lament is the worst human being I’ve ever been unfortunate enough to communicate with in my entire life. I wouldn’t piss on his face if his teeth were on fire. So I really don’t care what he supports.
Haha, poor Jesse. Can’t beat that.
Green with envy.
Mother fucker.
I feel bad for ABC that sarc refuses to mute.
Depending on the time zone, he’s got between 10 and 13 hours left.
1. Somehow Joe Biden will get us into a direct confrontation with a nuclear power. Let’s hope it’s France.
France nukes Washington. Biden administration calls it an astounding success. The public agrees, Biden's approval rating soars to 93%.
What fun for the neocons!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/one-great-big-nasty-prediction-2023
Besides, after a demoralizing 2022, and with Karine Jean-Pierre as White House Press Secretary, anything and everything can happen in 2023 – including World War III!
Wokeism sucks at the box office.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/12/31/the-year-hollywood-truly-lost-the-plot/
Hollywood has long tended to promote a largely ‘liberal-left’ worldview. But its recent embrace of wokeness is on another level entirely. Today, it’s as if most major studios are more interested in promoting ‘diversity’, #MeToo or BLM-style posturing than they are in getting bums on to cinema seats. This year, it became all too clear that audiences are no longer buying the woke fare that Hollywood is serving.
Gay buzz lightyear was not a hit and the "2 dudes hookup" romcom couldnt even guilt the white liberals into seeing it.
Attempts at court packing will intensify.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/federal-appeals-court-ruling-on-transgender-school-bathroom-policy-may-trigger-scotus-showdown
In a 7-4 decision, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals held that the St. Johns County School Board policy that barred a biological female who identifies as male from using a high school’s boys’ restroom violates neither the student’s constitutional right to equal protection nor Title IX, the federal law against discrimination by schools based on sex. The court’s ruling differs on substance from a 2020 decision by the 4th Circuit striking down a similar policy in Gloucester County, Virginia.
Ray Epps confesses.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ray-epps-told-nephew-he-orchestrated-january-6
His nephew, 28-year-old Dalin, texted Epps on the morning of January 6, saying, “You and Jim be safe.” Jim is Epps’ son, who was also in the nation’s capital. Hours later, at 2:12 p.m., as the violence at the Capitol was getting underway, Epps responded with a brag. “I was in the front with a few others. I also orchestrated it,” he said.
His back and forth with Kizinger was amazing. Kizinger literally leading him as not being culpable because his words were to peacefully act. Similar to trumps words. Except trump didn’t organize or remove barriers like Epps did. None of the videos show Epps telling people to be peaceful. But Kizinger inferred it.
“Bipartisan” committee.
And the good rep comes out this morning admitting they are targeting trump.
Adam Kinzinger #fella
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Above was a response to a tweet about how ineffectual the j6 committee was.
Here's a theory to spend a few seconds on - Ray Epps was a patsy.
Nobody could be as inept as he was. Epps was made for a fed by the crowd around him. Maybe he was a diversion for a better planned FBI psyop.
The Michigan kidnappers were patsies as well. Fbi at the top levels of the group. 16 and 19 years.
Same with the oath keepers on J6 charged w insurrection. Except for Epps.
This is a horror film:
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1608529153225113601?t=xZg9-Lq-FkBdOeL-uH0UQg&s=19
At the end of a historic, productive session of Congress full of bipartisan results, I still have a few bills left to sign.
Take a guess how long it took me to sign a stack of 65 of them.
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Squidfana? Is that something a Hydra front restaurant would serve?
https://twitter.com/Chesschick01/status/1609230558244098050?t=8GUeEoQg0Utnjh415erI8w&s=19
Reason has a history of groomer behavior... so this isn't shocking. It is however completely disgusting.
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Replying to @Chesschick01
Gross. I had forgotten about some of these other takes. It’s exactly the same as the messaging from the ridiculous people we had to extract from the party last year.
https://twitter.com/ArchetypalDork/status/1609231332822994948
You guys obsess with this stupid shit. And you conservatives are the first to point your finger at others.
FALWELL COLLEAGUE DIES GETTING HIS AUTOEROTIC RUBBER KINK ON
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An Alabama minister who died in June of “accidental mechanical asphyxia” was found hogtied and wearing two complete wet suits, including a face mask, diving gloves and slippers, rubberized underwear, and a head mask, according to an autopsy report.
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Investigators determined that Rev. Gary Aldridge's death was not caused by foul play and that the 51-year-old pastor of Montgomery's Thorington Road Baptist Church was alone in his home at the time he died (while apparently in the midst of some autoerotic undertaking). While the Montgomery Advertiser, which first obtained the autopsy records, reported on Aldridge's two wet suits, the family newspaper chose not to mention what police discovered inside the minister's rubber briefs.
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Oh my. It gets better. Blogenfreude notes that Aldridge also had a condom-covered dildo up his bum:
https://shadowproof.com/2007/10/09/falwell-colleague-dies-getting-his-autoerotic-rubber-kink-on/
Who puts condoms on dildos?
Neither of your cites regard child grooming.
You did post child porn.
And you got banned for it too, Buttplug. Please, for the sake of everyone here, explain what you did, in your own words. Own up to it, asshole.
What the fuck does an adult "FALWELL COLLEAGUE's" rubber and dildo fetish have to do with you guys running cover for kiddie diddling?
We're not Southern Baptists. Why the fuck do you think we'd care?
Probably because you were making a piss poor attempt at distraction.
The problem isn't sticking shit up your ass, Shrike. It's you sticking your dink up a child's ass.
Speechless. Forget any political angle, how is any part of the described scenario erotically pleasant???
How is either scenario child grooming?
You oft claim Republicans think all gays are grooming children, yet here shrike is basically making that actual link. And you didnt notice. Weird.
I didn’t see children mentioned there. All these years trolling here and you still don’t understand libertarianism.
There was a time when I might have cared, but at this point I laugh at whatever self-inflicted harm the Portlandians (and Oregonians generally) bring down on themselves.
Seems like they are getting the government they deserve, good and hard.
They voted for it. These rules were in the works for years... the article is explicit on that.
These rules were put into place by the politicians Portlandia elected, reelected, rereelected, rerererereelected, rererererererererererereelected, then elected one more time, hard and with gusto.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1609164327759806464?t=5V-PByAQLeOjtXjt8RTiKw&s=19
Never would've known that "talking with someone who keeps looking at his/her watch" is now classified as a "micro-inequity." Thanks, Department of Homeland Security
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Being on time is racist.
I feel more secure now
I KNEW that huge white rabbit was racist! I just knew it!
You can tell these people are just making shit up - it's 2023, no one wears a watch any more.
https://twitter.com/PeterDClack/status/1608950339222532096?t=gCYiRrzQLktWwqMFwbHXRA&s=19
The last time carbon dioxide was as low as today was in the Carboniferous, when the vast Karoo Ice Age lasted 95 million years. CO2 sustains life & provides oxygen for all living things on land & sea. The steady loss of CO2 over millennia is the greatest threat to life on earth.
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There is no culture in Portland anymore, food cart or otherwise. It's all homeless and left wing radicals.
Downtown Portland is nearly empty. Many of my friends have stated they are scared to go there (I personally do not share that belief). My wife was in Nordstroms downtown yesterday. She found street parking 1 block away, and noted that in many departments she was the only customer, with the neighboring departments empty except for employees.
I don’t know how any of the food carts are staying open. This will shutter them quickly, leaving downtown even more empty.
Between the homeless and the smash'n'grab looting it is time for stores to go Costco with memberships. You don't get in without paying a $200 annual fee.
Hot dog and drink $1.50. Slice of Pizza and drink $2, Chicken bake with drink $3.50. Costco is the place to go...who wants all that weird food anyway from food carts. Besides most of them are racists...tacos sold by Irish or Italian cart owners...total appropriation.
They're a great retailer.
Some rights group may demand Costco provide "disadvantaged" memberships.
It's the story of modern retail America. Costco stores in prosperous areas and Dollar stores in shitty little rural towns.
They don’t offer child porn for you, Buttmunch.
Wow, Trump didn't waste any time on his presidential library:
https://djtrumplibrary.com/
Good for him.
Trump! Trump... Trump. Trump! TRUMP!
Trump. TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP. Trump trump trump trump TRUMP.
Trump.
Man, Trump-Disease infected the world.
Buttplug, don’t you know the rules? Nobody is allowed to talk about Trump, except
Trump himself, who is allowed to talk about Trump 24/7.
You and shrike talk about Trump more than trump does. You even followed him over to his new social media site. The irony of your post.
You and shrike bring up Trump more than any of his supposed supporters here.
Hahahahahahahahaha
Caw caw!
The proggie brain has been cored out and filled with nothing but Trump. It's really astonishing watch.
imagine paying any attention whatsoever to the Trump presidential library lol .
Remind you of anyone?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0985908c4379c0f7519d40e3e4679be08d0b0727eae9e89d62ba2f700d40383.jpg
RIP Pope Benedict, and Baba Wawa.
WIP.
fuck off....that was too easy and too hilarious
No more pope and antipope. All future business to be done through the Avignon papacy please.
They keep calling him "the first Pope to retire in 600 years", though it was pretty obvious he was fired over the sex abuse scandal.
I figured they were using him as a scapegoat.
A scapepope.
Fuck, I hate bitcoin. I just plunked down $1000 to do my post season football gambling and Coinbase will take "days" to draft my account so the funds are unavailable this weekend. Seriously, BTC is garbage.
Georgia will stomp those Ohio amish.
Must be a bitch not being able to pay for your child porn there, eh?
I suspected none of you pussies were football fans.
Georgia vs TCU will be good
UCLA vs Pitt was good.
Giants over Colts was great
Tua sucks, Minshew sucks, Wilson - plays like he is shaving points
He is more concerned it was off a credit card. Oracle of dogdick can't afford that loss.
Isn't this an opportunity to expand their business or for new ones to get into the game?
How about going waterless (dry cleaning equipment instead) or recycling water?
Seems this blog entry treats a technical problem as a government failure, because food trucks.
I support the wastewater rules, but surely there's some way to modify them for food trucks!
Because food trucks?
BECAUSE FOOD TRUCKS! IF FOOD ISN'T SOLD FROM A TRUCK, IT AIN'T LIBERTARIANOPIA!
Ok you two. Your truckulent support of this food venue is duly noted. I myself have had mixed experiences with food trucks and can only be semi supportive,much as it brakes my heart to say so.
Don't grind your gears, man.
'Coup-mongering' Bolsonarista's battle cry reveals a radicalized Brazil
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RIO DE JANEIRO, Dec 28 (Reuters) - Nearly two weeks after Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva defeated far-right President Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil's most fraught election in a generation, Milton Baldin arrived in the capital Brasilia to try to overturn the result.
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A small business owner from the deep interior of Brazil, Baldin, 55, joined thousands of hardcore Bolsonaro supporters who had set up an encampment outside army headquarters, from where they were urging the military to stage a coup.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/coup-mongering-bolsonaristas-battle-cry-reveals-radicalized-brazil-2022-12-28/
Trump-Disease infected the world.
Brazil’s most fraught election in a generation
They were just harmless "tourists" I hear.
From the looks of it Lula got in via massive fraud, so the real coup probably happened during the election... Fuck, that sounds familiar.
Now, now, that’s just election fortification. Cleanest election ever!!11!!1!
Who knew that food cart waste water was radio-active! /s
What a F'En joke.
Power-Mad politicians getting their power-high from poking Guns at those icky people.
nah just proggie technocrats doing exactly what they were voted in to do.
They voted for it.
Surely… SURELY there must be a way! Maybe blockchain technology can fix it.
Maybe someone should offer a bounty on used cooking oil, since it is useful as a diesel fuel substitute.
At some point, these "food carts" are just going to be brick-and-mortar restaurants except with no seating.
Here's some more evidence of that MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD. Damn Democrats at it again!
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/30/politics/mark-meadows-north-carolina-voter-fraud/index.html
Chemleft will only ever acknowledge electoral fraud when a Republican is doing it, but don't you dare, don't you dare, call him a paid DNC shill.
How dare you cast aspersions at the sanctity of an election. Elections are sacred and we must never question them or investigate spurious accusations like this. You are destroying democracy.
No widespread corruption.
So are you an election denier now?
Literally nobody here said ONLY Democrats do it….
You'd think he might be slightly concerned that someone registered at the last second and it took nearly two years to discover that he was registered in three different states. Someone who is under intense scrutiny specifically regarding the election and his role in it, and they didn't remove him from voter rolls for nearly two years.
Just how many other people could possibly be multiply-registered and easily cast votes in multiple states or potentially even multiple counties within a state, if it took this long to notice Mark Meadows? Don't you dare think about it. Don't even ponder it. Elections are sacred and perfect.
Mark Meadows voted for Biden 3-Times????
And then had the nerve to say there is voter fraud going on???
US elections are not secure. Never have been. The fact that you think this is a partisan issue makes you an idiot, Chemjeff.
Portland is the most communist city in america with the possible exception of San Francisco. They deserve what they voted for.
I am from, and still live in, the San Francisco Bay Area. However, I have never been to Portland (let alone in recent years). I honestly wonder which is worse.
So let's review.
Hunter Biden did some deals with Ukraine and with China. That is concerning and merits intense scrutiny in case some of his dealings had implications for his father.
Meanwhile, Trump had direct financial interests in at least 12 nations around the globe, and revealing this fact is a partisan witch-hunt against St. Trump the Orange and just proof of TDS manifested.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/30/trump-taxes-foreign-income-00075872
Some deals? That’s a mild way of puting it there Jeffy. Hunter was the fucking bagman for the Big Guy.
Once you ignore all the actual evidence that is fake news.
Orange Guy 100%
But 10% for the Big Guy.
“Hunter Biden did some deals with Ukraine and with China.”
It’s called taking bribes, Jeff. Not “deals”, bribes.
“Meanwhile, Trump had direct financial interests in at least 12 nations around the globe”
Through companies he had put in trust like every other president who owned companies ever.
The only way this is remotely equivalent is if Trump was taking bribes for pay to play like the Bidens.
Saying that Trump holding foreign financial interests (just like Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest) is the same as pay for play is idiotic. You and Politico are only going to get serious retards to fall for that.
And Jeff swears he’s not a Democratic Party shill, folks.
It’s called taking bribes
Pure fiction.
Did you know the Hunter Biden laptop story is RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION?
Oh, I forgot. That Democrat talking point is outdated. Your new script is to say the whole thing has always been about HUNTER BIDEN'S PENIS!
The only thing that interests SPB is penis related stories.
We shouldn't be surprised he's running the HUNTER BIDEN'S PENIS talking point into the ground.
It combines his two favorite things: (1) obediently regurgitating establishment Democrat wisdom, and (2) making genitalia / bodily fluid references that indicate he still has the sense of humor of a 12 year old.
And unnecessary caps.
So Hunter wasn’t flown on AF2 with his dad and working with a Chinese financial company that was gifting him diamonds and forgivable loans?
Me - "You and Politico are only going to get serious retards to fall for that."
Buttplug - "Pure fiction."
Through companies he had put in trust like every other president who owned companies ever.
Trump’s “trust” was a complete sham.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/donald-trump-business-conflicts-interest-233520
There is a common thread in the ethics plan Trump outlined Wednesday: His pledge to separate his private interests from public policy depends almost entirely on him and his team following their own rules, with almost a total absence of public disclosure, outside oversight or independent verification.
The only way this is remotely equivalent is if Trump was taking bribes for pay to play like the Bidens.
Hmm, you don’t say.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-dc-hotel-received-millions-from-foreign-governments-documents-2021-10
The Trump International Hotel in Washington, DC, received millions of dollars from foreign governments while former President Donald Trump was in office, new documents show.
The Trump International Hotel in Washington, DC, received millions of dollars from foreign governments
So he’s not a failed businessman?
I never said he was.
You’ve been implying as much.
"Hunter Biden did some deals with Ukraine and with China. That is concerning and merits intense scrutiny in case some of his dealings had implications for his father."
Honestly I never cared much about that. I thought it was already common knowledge that Hunter Biden is a posterboy for the various forms of "privilege" that Democrats claim they want to dismantle, despite their party being full of examples.
I was more perplexed that the intelligence community put its thumb on the scale in a Presidential election. Seems a bit inappropriate?
And they hyped the Russian hacking story to social media despite having the laptop confirmed for a year and doing it the day before NYPost story as they were monitoring their journalists. Just coincidental timing.
Nope. Based on the information known at the time about Hunter Biden's laptop, an honest observer could in good faith make the same claim that they did.
As of Oct. 2020, when the story broke, what we all knew was that there was a laptop purported to belong to Hunter Biden, and an unsecured, unencrypted copy of the hard drive had been made, as of late 2019, and had been in the possession of Giuliani and who knows who else. Even if one were to believe as of Oct. 2020 that the laptop was real, and that the original that was taken into FBI possession in late 2019 was genuine and not tampered with by anyone, one cannot say the same about the copies that had been made. So even a neutral, unbiased, nonpartisan observer could have legitimate questions about whether all of the data on the *copies* of the hard drive were legitimate.
Furthermore, in that infamous letter, the signatories never explicitly asserted that the laptop was absolutely a "Russian disinformation" plot. They said that they were suspicious that it was, and they gave their reasons why. That's fine, they are free to offer their opinions on a matter that they think is of public interest. I don't think that is inappropriate at all.
Are you suggesting that the "intelligence community", as of Oct. 2020, absolutely knew that the Biden laptop was 100% real, as well as all of the data on the laptop, as well as the copies of the laptop that were peddled to the NY Post, and deliberately lied to the world claiming it was "Russian disinfo"? Is that your claim? If so, what's your evidence?
An observer might have been fooled, but this was the FBI and they had the physical possession of the laptop. For a year.
They lied deliberately for political purposes.
The NY Post never had access to the original laptop. Their reporting was based on an unsecured, unencrypted copy of the hard drive of the laptop.
That's not what Sandra was referring to. Did you click her link?
You lie.
The incriminating emails were immediately corroborated by people they were sent to. Long before the "disinformation" letter was sent. When the Post article came out, the ownership of the laptop and the veracity of the salient emails was already documented.
And, as it turns out, so was the FBI's knowledge of this fact and plan for dealing with it.
They had been spying on the Post journalists and used that knowledge to plan their own *real* disinformation campaign. Before the Post article was published, they were already out lying about it to prevent anyone from following up or allowing discussion.
This is all an iron-clad documented fact.
So someone who supports blocking "disinformation" really shouldn't be going around repeating lies about it.... Lest they be accused of hypocrisy.
Oh man, you go way into tinfoil hat territory here.
He’s not though. Ignoring evidence doesn’t make it go away.
No Jeff, releasing someone’s private tax returns when they didn’t voluntarily do so is a partisan witch hunt.
See, I disagree. For people seeking office, or for people in office, I think more transparency is warranted, not less. I have absolutely no problem with making tax returns public, even against their will, for anyone in office or for anyone seeking office. For anyone in any party in any office, all the way from president to local city council. I see it as a necessary part of the "job interview" process. If they wish to have the power to initiate force against me and throw me in a cage for ridiculous, stupid and petty 'crimes', not to mention stealing my income in the form of taxes, then I want to know if they are worthy of holding the power that they seek. And if a candidate doesn't want his/her finances made public, then he/she can either place them in a completely blind trust, or not run for office, period.
So should we sue and get your tax returns released to the public?
I'm not running for office.
Well, now that this power has been abused by Democrats, let’s hope Republicans will use it with gusto. The Clinton’s, the Biden’s, the Obama’s, their LLCs, their foundations, their family members. We need to know how government service made those people so wealthy.
The implication being that anyone who does business overseas cannot be trusted.
How extraordinarily, unapologetically, and (without any self-awareness) unironically nationalistic of you.
The implication being that anyone who does business overseas cannot be trusted.
Nope, not what I said. People who do business overseas in nontransparent, shady ways stoke deserved scrutiny. For example, Trump's sham of a "trust".
Sorry, but that is exactly what you implied, lying sack of shit.
How do hundreds of millions of “donations” from foreign governments and billionaires to the Clinton foundation count?
No, you do not have it straight.
In fact you are, again, pushing a straw man argument
The "chem" in chemjeff must be short for "chemically lobotomized". Jeffy, the "radical" "individualist" is so radical that he's always on the side of collectivism. Weird.
https://twitter.com/_jburden/status/1608545247352455168?t=dzTC2usNWFRFLV1JgzVXoQ&s=19
This is the attitude that won the west. It’s still out there, buried in unlikely places.
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That had to be one of the most awesome things I’ve ever seen.
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1609232957004201987?t=JE3uqkCaPpwXmTquJ3fofA&s=19
Is this the most insane tweet of 2022? I still haven't quite come to terms with it.
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Yeah, that’s a pretty fucked tweet. It makes Hank look sane.
All of White Mike's opinions in a single tweet.
Touché
"But what about, say, increasing penalties for wastewater spills and dumping? And, given Portland's health department claims wastewater cubes located at pods are sometimes hit by cars—leading to spills—why not require those cubes to be placed in areas no vehicle may access (e.g., by requiring them to be surrounded by inexpensive bollards)?"
All these solutions require more regulation, more paper work, more policing and more administration. Is this the best Libertarians are capable of?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Libertarians oppose regulation - you shit on them for it.
Libertarians suggest regulations - you shit on them for it.
They get what they deserve. And I don't see any opposition to regulation here.
So what?
Is this the best Libertarians are capable of? That's what.
Did not scroll the entire thread:
The trucks are paying no rent and taking space on the roads, those paid by gas taxes (and also costing local businesses sales since the customers can't park there)
Any costs comparisons to those who pay for B&M operations? Until we see some of those, it's hard to find a good-guy/bad-guy here
"But what about, say, increasing penalties for wastewater spills and dumping?
Reading between the lines and the tortured admissions - there is a problem with these carts dumping wastewater into the sewers. A real problem that is causing real problems.
It's happening because enforcement is lax.
So, not many people are getting caught - how would increasing the penalties stop people when they don't think they'll get caught?
This is drug war thinking.
"how would increasing the penalties stop people when they don’t think they’ll get caught?"
Because increasing penalties would lead to more policing, more bureaucrats, and, if Libertarians are to be believed, 'smaller government.'
This is a predictable follow-on to Portland's overregulation of home sewer and storm drain hookups. The city has taken the position that its sewer system should not have to do its full job. Instead, homes and businesses should either not generate waste, or should keep it onsite or dispose of it in other ways -- and in particular, that rain water should be retained by the soil on each property where it falls.
No city should be allowed to impose rules so presumptuous.
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