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Twitter Files: The FBI Frequently Flagged Joke Tweets, Asked for Moderation

Maybe the FBI has something better to do with its time?

Robby Soave | 12.16.2022 5:20 PM

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FBI agents communicated regularly with content moderators at Twitter, and frequently asked for tweets to be taken down for allegedly violating the platforms' policies against election-related misinformation. The conversations were so numerous—including emails and weekly meetings—that a top Twitter staffer came to describe the relationship between the company and law enforcement as "government-industry sync."

That's according to the latest installment of the Twitter Files, which was released by independent journalist Matt Taibbi on Friday.

1. THREAD: The Twitter Files, Part Six
TWITTER, THE FBI SUBSIDIARY

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) December 16, 2022

The FBI frequently recommended that content moderators look into specific tweets and take action against them if they violated misinformation policies. Many of these tweets were from users with very low follower counts who had engaged in satire or humor. The FBI flagged user Claire Foster, who had tweeted "I'm a ballot counter in my state. If you're not wearing a mask, I'm not counting your vote. #safetyfirst" and "For every negative comment on this post I'm adding another vote for the democrats."

These comments probably sound like satire to most people, but the FBI apparently thinks election integrity is no laughing matter. You would be forgiven for wondering whether top law enforcement officials have anything better to do with their time than police jokes on Twitter.

As with previous Twitter Files disclosures, it's not that this information was totally unsuspected; it was already abundantly clear that government officials were in regular communication with social media companies and flagging content for moderation. But it's useful to see the scale of that interaction as well as some specific examples. The extent to which Big Tech and Big Government are working in tandem to crack down on dissent, contrarianism, and even humor is frankly disturbing.

Social media companies have every right to moderate jokes if they really want to—and users can complain about the jokes or the moderation, of course—but the FBI's role in all this raises the specter of a free speech violation, even if the government wasn't literally forcing Twitter to take action. It is inappropriate for the FBI to report joke tweets to content moderators and take a what-are-you-doing-about-this tone. Social media companies might feel like they have little choice but to cooperate with law enforcement, given that political figures in both parties are constantly threatening to punish the platforms for making decisions that displease Republicans and Democrats.

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  1. Joe M   3 years ago

    This is beyond inappropriate and disturbing, although I do agree the FBI should have something better to do with its time besides violating people's rights. I'd like a bit more outrage in this article.

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      Robby's here to downplay totalitarianism and try to maintain Reason's veil of being "libertarian" and pro freedom.

      1. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        I dunno, it seems like Robbie is starting to budge from the "muh privut compny" position.

      2. Ted AKA Teddy Salad, CIA/US Ballet Force   3 years ago

        OT: are the CHUD’s finally attacking?

        https://nypost.com/2022/12/16/illegal-immigrants-climbing-out-of-sewer-manholes-into-texas/

    2. ThomasD   3 years ago

      " I’d like a bit more outrage in this article."

      Well, no mean tweets were involved...

    3. Kazinski   3 years ago

      You don't go to war on the American people with the FBI you want, you have to go to war on the American people with the FBI you have.

    4. Truthteller1   3 years ago

      Can Koch not afford a software upgrade to kill the bots?

  2. Dillinger   3 years ago

    maybe? where are the flames and yelling?

    1. Aloysious   3 years ago

      Rico doesn't do that. It would considered vulgar. He does, however, do fruit sushi.

      1. Nardz   3 years ago

        He does what he's told to do. That's why Fauci chose him for the interview.

  3. Longtobefree   3 years ago

    I think it is on the third day of FBI training that they surgically remove your sense of humor.

    1. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      I always assumed they just recruited people who were congenitally without a sense of humor.

      1. Nardz   3 years ago

        Aka leftists

  4. Use the Schwartz   3 years ago

    The FBI has time, manpower, and budget to be upset by satirical Normie Tweets?

    This almost makes me want to join Twitter - ALMOST...

  5. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Maybe the FBI has something better to do with its time?

    Go after J6 paraders. Set up kidnapping schemes against governors. Prosecute non violent pro life protestors with the FACE act. Search for Trump selling nuclear secrets from Mar a Lago. Raid Project Veritas. Search desperately for a diary. Have people sign the 2a rights away under threat. Set up incoming presidents and their advisors. False FISA warrants.

    So many better things to do.

    1. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

      You forgot sending hordes of agents to investigate a noose in a NASCAR garage.

      1. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

        And investigate parents concerned about their kids being raped at school and the administration both covering it up and effectively facilitating it.

  6. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603878271384313856?t=_4-IjejzKJmFgn9x_3OKSg&s=19

    Instead of chasing child sex predators or terrorists, the FBI has agents — lots of them — analyzing and mass-flagging social media posts. Not as part of any criminal investigation, but as a permanent, end-in-itself surveillance operation. People should not be okay with this.

    1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      They work for the regime, essentially a modern day praetorian guard.

    2. Tony   3 years ago

      But normal, sane people recognize that a mass communication technology being weaponized against the United States and democracy itself is perhaps something of a problem worthy of the United States' attention.

      You all are actually mad that you (and political hacks and Russian bots) aren't being given carte blanche to spread treason and lies on the internet on somebody else's platform. You're insane.

      1. Overt   3 years ago

        You are mad like a hatter. The FBI's job is to investigate and gather evidence for the prosecution of crimes. That you think "mass communication technology" is a crime says all that we should ever need to know about you, you angry little totalitarian.

        1. Ersatz   3 years ago

          ^this^

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          "you angry little totalitarian"

          That's our Tony.

      2. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

        Man, you are such a lunatic.

      3. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

        Tony,

        The minute you used "democracy" you lost the argument

      4. John C. Randolph   3 years ago

        Deciding what we may or may not read online is no part of the prerogative of any government agency. Read the first amendment, shithead.

        -jcr

      5. Brian   3 years ago

        This you, Tony?

        https://reason.com/2022/12/14/elon-musk-should-take-a-clear-stand-against-censorship-by-proxy/?comments=true#comment-9836878

        “ Isn’t applying the libertarian principle here easy? Just let Twitter operate like the business it is. Let it do what it wants to secure higher profits.

        If that involves censoring Nazis and pedophiles, so be it. It’s capitalism. If Elon wants to boot everyone off who does not worship at the balls of his cock, so be it. That’s capitalism too.

        All of a sudden conservatives keep finding ways they want to use the US federal government to force private actors to do things, with laws.

        Well I always knew the day would come. You can’t do fascism properly with limited government.”

        Fascism, you say?

        1. DesigNate   3 years ago

          I mean, Tony is the biggest Fascist here…

    3. ThomasD   3 years ago

      "Not as part of any criminal investigation"

      Time was this would be a major scandal.

      But that was back when the FBI was going after domestic commies.

  7. JesseAz   3 years ago

    So just finished reading the dump. It is way more pervasive than this mealy mouthed article. What the fuck Robbie?

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

      Even the *one* citation of *one* joke, he has to pick the one that cuts in his favor *and* legitimately invokes a “sarc?” response. Like people hadn’t been literally, physically assaulting people for not wearing masks in public for a couple of years.

      Couldn’t go with the guy with the handle “Clowns to the left, jokers to the right” saying “Reminder to Republicans, Vote Wednesday, Nov. 9” or a picture of a “cargo ship” that’s just a shipping container on a rowboat, on Twitter. Nope, got to make it clear that questioning a regime's elections is always a joke/fake news. Always.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

        I mean the worst parts is the FBI mentioning there was no concern of sharing classified information, involvement of DHS, and others a libertarian writer would normally focus on.

        This makes it seem like the only thing that happened was the fbi pointed to a few joke tweets.

        Robbie took the biggest bitch angle he could on the dump since his Fauci interview.

      2. Nardz   3 years ago

        I've been following "her" for years.
        Claire Foster = Twitter OBL

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Of all the accounts and all the suspensions in all of Twitter, Robby had to choose the one joke that didn't get anybody suspended in order to shout, "BOAF SIDEZ!"

          1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            I don't think it's both sideism.

            I think it's pretty obvious, having reviewed Claire Foster, that this is an account making fun of the modern Progressive dogma. Relentlessly, daily, entirely, satirically mocking progressives.

            So, the author isn't bothsidesing, is he? This attempted ban is most definitely targeting someone off-message for the progressive orthodoxy.

            Or is it just that Robby is expecting none of us to go to the twitter and actually read the Claire Foster account and realize that whatever the FBI did to try and get this tweeter banned, it was an obvious excuse to try and silence a non-progressive voice?

            Maybe he's that cynical. I think, in this case, he's just a lazy fuck who doesn't journalism well.

            1. Nardz   3 years ago

              That one's actually on Taibbi. Guessing he's unfamiliar with the account and didn't look into it. Pretty much the exact same character as OBL. But it's possible Taibbi was stretching really far to both sides it.

              "15. Just to show the FBI can be hyper-intrusive in both directions, they also asked Twitter to review a blue-leaning account for a different joke, except here it was even more obvious that
              @clairefosterPHD
              , who kids a lot, was kidding: [link]"

    2. Carlos Inconvenience   3 years ago

      Reason doesn’t like Trump so a government agency contracting out constitutional rights violations is suddenly no longer problematic.

      1. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        The FBI is a private company! Oh...wait...

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Robbie clearly states that libertarians should be "concerned". I'm concerned about this. Also food trucks, Mexicans and butt sex. Not necessarily in that order.

  8. mad.casual   3 years ago

    Pfffbbt. And that's just like the last like 8 yrs. or so. Go back further and you get to shoot an innocent mother in her own home while she's holding her infant child on false pretenses about her husband, raid safes and safety deposit boxes, spy on and maybe even have a hand in the assassination of several Civil Rights leaders, endanger all kinds of civilians in all manner of botched raids, beat up drunks, collect salacious-but-not-illegal information on all manner of celebrities, hide or dismiss not-illegal-enough-to-prosecute information on behalf of yourself, your boss, or his boss even if everyone involved is a public servant...

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Whoops thread fail. Meant in response to JesseAz above.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Yeah. I tried to just use the last few years. COINTELPRO, CHAOS, etc are way worse. Robbie would have downplayed those too.

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          This is the logical development, and combination, of cointelpro, mockingbird, and mkultra.
          Their involvement with tech is orders of magnitude more serious than anything we've seen before.

          1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

            Yes, I have to agree Nardz. It is social and psychological engineering via social media, a particularly dangerous thing.

  9. Nobartium   3 years ago

    Can we call it fascism yet?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Yes.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Just not sarcastically on Twitter.

        1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

          Well, it's true. And the truth is always satirical on Twitter.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Well we can but we all know that populism is the overriding threat.

    2. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      I've been using the term "authoritarian collectivism", to avoid the impression that I'm suggesting a direct continuation of WWII era fascism (although I don't dismiss the possibility that there is such a connection).

  10. Sevo   3 years ago

    "Maybe the FBI has something better to do with its time?"

    They could, perhaps, make up some cockamamie story about a GOP POTUS candidate and the Russkis and offer it to the DNC?

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      I can't imagine anyone falling for that. They'd have to be incredibly gullible and stupid.

      1. HorseConch   3 years ago

        And blinded by hatred of the new Hitler.

  11. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Proof the last two years is the culmination of cult behavior adopted by polite society.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      @4:10 she comes as close to saying "TDS" as I could imagine anyone outside internet forums saying.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        It's becoming a pattern.

        Former self-described San Francisco progressive:

        "I'm no longer a Democrat... I'm not running to the other side but..."

  12. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/walterkirn/status/1603858734148567040?t=Nj9dvlDqb81X2tDFoVJ8pA&s=19

    The mass manufacture and social promotion of the smugly cruel ideologically rigid tattle-tale personality is the very essence of the power game now. I could not be more serious. This is the heart of it all.

    1. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      the smugly cruel ideologically rigid tattle-tale personality

      AKA "Karen"

  13. CountmontyC   3 years ago

    A "request" from the FBI carries serious weight. After all if you don't comply you could face a potential criminal investigation and even if completely innocent that will cause great stress and could financially break most people. And if they can't find anything on you they could start investigating your friends and family as they have virtually unlimited resources.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      It isn't like the FBI would frame someone..

      Oh, wait. We have the proof that the FBI agents were perfectly fine with orders from the president to frame someone from the incoming administration for a crime. They were so comfortable that they discussed it right in front of a Deputy Attorney General.

      And we watched as the courts backed up that frame job to the hilt, even holding proof in their hands.

      So yeah, those visits had some teeth. If you know the FBI agents, the director of the FBI, the President of the US and the attorney General will all gladly use the state to destroy a political enemy and you know for sure that they can get you before a judge and an appellate court that will back them up 100% even when presented with iron-clad proof of innocence, you are gonna cooperate. Just like any good citizen of the Soviet Union would.

      1. Nardz   3 years ago

        https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1603897195035611138?t=P-SS4uV8J3KIaTSnMzZBrA&s=19

        The FBI was and most likely still is involved in the micromanaging of our political discourse, specifically stopping Americans from expressing political opinions and jokes.

        How is their behavior different then the KGB under communism?

        1. Cyto   3 years ago

          They have issued a statement in response to the Twitter dump from tiaibbi today. They say that they do not tell anyone what to do, but they work with many companies to provide information.

          They just admitted that they have teams scouring the net and the news so they can tell them what is verboten.

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            On the plus side, clearly not an intelligence agency.

            1. HorseConch   3 years ago

              Well, they don't seem overly intelligent. As power-hungry, oppressive, and political as they are, they only seem adept at investigating crimes they setup.

        2. R Mac   3 years ago

          Lol at “The FBI is gayer”.

    2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      Imagine being a normie liberal and thinking there is no conflict here.

      It's astonishing

      1. Tony   3 years ago

        Normie liberal here. Go fuck yourselves. You care about nothing but the latest conspiracy theory shoved down your eye holes by some fat blogger with Thiel money. You don't even know what you're mad about or why. You just have the emotions you are instructed to have. There is not a single goddamn thing you believe that has any connection to truth or reality.

        1. Sevo   3 years ago

          "Normie liberal here...."

          That's spelled "steaming pile of lying lefty shit" asshole.

          1. Tony   3 years ago

            I understand that you think I lie, but I assure you, I haven't the energy.

            Where do you get your news? Just a link or two would do.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              Salon and MSNBC, Tony. Just like you.

              1. HorseConch   3 years ago

                I'm sure he gets a little Atlantic and Mother Jones worked into it. Don't sell the stupid little fucker short.

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  There’s also the am email.

            2. Use the Schwartz   3 years ago

              "I understand that you think I lie, but I assure you, I haven’t the energy."

              All those years and years of posting will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

            3. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

              I don't think you lie. I just understand your belief and knowledge of things is terribly wrong. You just don't know it. So, yeah, basically George Costanza.

        2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          Very instructive.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          But you're not a normie liberal, you're a marxist sack of shit.

          1. Nardz   3 years ago

            To be fair, Tony is a typical leftist.
            "Normie liberal" now = "marxist sack of shit"

        4. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

          Imagine being a total simp for the regime like Tony. it's astonishing to watch.

          bUt rUsSiA!!!! what a tool

          1. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

            Cattud2 wonders if Tony is Adam?

        5. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

          You're not a normie liberal. Your a lunatic progressive who hates his fellow man and wants the government to dictate everything about people's lives.

        6. DesigNate   3 years ago

          Hahahahahahahahahahaha

          So much impotent rage.

          Hahahahahahahahahahaha

        7. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

          looks like i hit the mark with Tony! ha

    3. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      The FBI has little interest in prosecuting actual crimes. They just want to target disfavored people with investigations prolonged until they can trick them into committing a process crime.

    4. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      Why would the FBI investigate Twitter, it's not like they were promoting child por... Hmmmm

  14. Cyto   3 years ago

    Hey Robby... how about some clarification.

    You say we all knew this was going on,, but it is nice to have some sense of scope and examples.

    But did we really? I mean, I suppose we could claim that literally everyone in the press has just been lying. I think there is probably a lot of truth there. But who is this "everybody " who publicly said they knew a year ago?" I mean, everyone in the comments here did. But your boss still doesn't. She is still flapping in the wind believing whatever the hive mind tells her... no big deal, doesn't mean anything, actually it is a good thing, getting rid of censorship is dangerous....

    Since you don't seem to remember, the bright line you drew in the sand was "if government is directing this". You know, that thing that doesn't exist and never could be proven?

    Well, the receipts are here. And the line in the sand that you and the guys over at Volohk said would be a serious, criminal violation of the first amendment was being crossed the whole time.

    And now? "Isn't that interesting?...." that is about it?

    You guys were ready to impeach Trump because saying CNN is fake news was dangerous and threatened violence against the press and was totalitarian..... dude was literally Hitler for calling out CNN for lying (which they were).

    But the best you have for ironclad proof that there is a cabal in the bureaucracy and in the DNC that controls the ability of the American people to exercise their first amendment rights is mild interest?

    No interest in the control exerted at Facebook or the NYT or NBC?

    Just.... well, that happened....

    This is how you lose your democracy.

    1. Tony   3 years ago

      What do you think about Twitter now banning journalists for reporting in a way that personally upsets the owner of Twitter? Free speech utopia?

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        Perfectly OK if the guy wants to ban people with green eyes; at least he isn't a toady for the government.
        What do you think of the government strong-arming the last twitter management to become the propaganda arm of the DNC, steaming pile of lying lefty shit?

        1. Tony   3 years ago

          I don't think that happened. I think the United States, charged with protecting itself, paid attention to the world's most prominent political mass communication machine and communicated with it. Just like it communicates with, I dunno, a large bank or defense contractor. Don't make bombs that blow ourselves up, for god's sake.

          I wish the FBI would monitor social media more. It's not like it lacks for terroristic right-wing lies. Or ever has. You're just mad you lost the 2020 election. Still. Baby.

          1. Sevo   3 years ago

            "I don’t think that happened."

            That's not surprising. A steaming pile of lying lefty shit is certainly willing to ignore actual evidence (join hands with Misek here, scum bag) in the hopes that bullshit prevails.
            Stuff your MDS up your ass, shit bag.

            1. Trollificus   3 years ago

              I dunnol. "I don't think that happened." is more of a "counterargument" than he can usually come up with. Poke him a little more. He seems extra unhinged tonight. Displaying the signs of Stage 4 Mind Virus infection. Rage, auto-regurgitation of Cult dogma, wild and wholly unsupported assertions, etc.

          2. Cyto   3 years ago

            You don't think that happened? Dude... Taibbi just published the receipts. They have entire teams that monitor even the tiniest accounts and tell companies who to silence.

            I suppose sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "la la la la la la I can't hear you I can't hear you" is a response....

            1. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

              Tony has mastered the art of George Costanza.

          3. Brian   3 years ago

            This you, Tony?

            Isn’t applying the libertarian principle here easy? Just let Twitter operate like the business it is. Let it do what it wants to secure higher profits.

            If that involves censoring Nazis and pedophiles, so be it. It’s capitalism. If Elon wants to boot everyone off who does not worship at the balls of his cock, so be it. That’s capitalism too.

            All of a sudden conservatives keep finding ways they want to use the US federal government to force private actors to do things, with laws.

            Well I always knew the day would come. You can’t do fascism properly with limited government.

            Fascism, you say?

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        "It's a private company" isn't so awesome when your side's the one getting clapped, is it?

        1. Trollificus   3 years ago

          He surely has considered the "You don't like it, build your own Twitter." argument, right?

      3. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

        Yeah, the owner of a social media platform getting angry because his family was threaten and responded to the situation a little too emotionally is totally the same as government conducting systemic review and silencing of language by citizens it determines is not appropriate. Oh, and Musk unsuspended everyone already.

        This is why taking you seriously is a mistake.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Reason's years long "private companies" censorship promotion has just completely collapsed so they publish this mealy mouth bullshit emphasizing how comically inept the FBI is. Pathetic. While ENB joins the lefty freakout and urges everyone to sign up with Mastodon before the inevitable collapse of Twitter, Robbie is assigned to kinda sorta cover the obvious government collusion with "private companies" who have a libertarian right to censor anyone they want to thank you very much. But let's not put too fine a point on the obvious constitutional violations here. I mean it was only some low volume parody. Haha. Meanwhile look over there! Ted Cruz said some shit. And that Rand Paul guy is pouncing!

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  16. chemjeff radical individualist   3 years ago

    What is the legal authority by which the FBI can "liaise" with Twitter on election matters?

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      The first amendment... whoops.

    3. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      Freedom of association?

    4. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      Aren't you the guy who babbled on a few days ago about how government officials have a right to freedom of speech? FBI agents can say anything they want to anyone, right?

      1. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        Here's one:
        https://reason.com/2022/12/09/adam-schiff-attempts-censorship-by-proxy-demanding-action-to-suppress-hate-speech-on-twitter/?comments=true#comment-9830558

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Damn, I missed that one. What a totalitarian simp.

  17. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

    Time to come clean, guys. How many of you are FBI agents reporting on the rest of the commentariat?

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Not Tony and Jeff. They usually want at least high school grads.

      Media Matters wasn't as picky.

      1. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        I think they still screen for sexual perversion, too.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Like, as a requirement?

  18. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    Imagine thinking Elon is the bad guy here.

  19. Tony   3 years ago

    I can't wait for the entry that describes the time Twitter went from cautious, if imperfect moderation policies to having one guy at the top exacting personal grudges in the farcical guise of being a free-speech absolutist.

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      "I can’t wait for the entry that describes the time Twitter went from cautious, if imperfect moderation policies..."

      Took about 10 days according to what's been revealed so far, and then they promptly became the propaganda out left for the DNC, via the FBI, steaming pile of lying lefty shit.

      1. Tony   3 years ago

        If only.

        You don't have evidence. You don't have a theory. You don't even have thoughts. You have buzzwords in their place. You're a mark. Read a fucking book.

        1. Truthfulness   3 years ago (edited)

          There is evidence. It’s called the Twitter Files.
          That’s not merely a theory, that’s a fact.
          Sevo’s thoughts are correct, Twitter was doing the government’s bidding with their censorship of beings.
          No amount of buzzwords, marks or books will change the fact.

          Go read the Twitter Files and come back when you’re ready for the exam.

          1. Tony   3 years ago

            Okay, I'm ready. Quote me something that showed evidence of a systematic nefarious scheme to silence political voices. And I don't mean lies. Remember, lies are not political opinions. They're lies.

            Jesus fuck, you people cry so much about censorship I can hear or read literally nothing else. Obviously, the irony will be lost on you.

            1. StoneTalons   3 years ago

              “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” the lawyer, wrote to Strzok.
              “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded.
              --- Democrat Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director, FBI.
              It can't get much clearer. The FBI attempted to overthrow our government.

              1. Tony   3 years ago

                You're referring to a fed who was fired over that, probably because of political pressure from the Trump campaign? Okay, you got one. Now let's do Trump's many, many unprecedented, overwhelmingly corrupt actions.

                I take a somewhat firmer stance than most Trump critics: Every FBI agent should have been trying to prevent that freakish globule from being president. Every journalist too. Principles are not a suicide pact, don't you know that?

                1. Sevo   3 years ago

                  "You’re referring to a fed who was fired over that, probably because of political pressure from the Trump campaign? Okay, you got one. Now let’s do Trump’s many, many unprecedented, overwhelmingly corrupt actions."
                  The commenter to whom you are replying cited a specific, documented instance, steaming pile of lying lefty shit.
                  You make an unsupported claim regarding Trump, steaming pile of lying lefty shit, and then launch into what can only be seen as a rant from a steaming pile of lying lefty shit.
                  Please, do the world a favor: Fuck off and die. But please make the location of your grave public so I know where to go take a piss, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

                2. Sevo   3 years ago

                  BTW, your idiocy has never been worth saving to me, but we can start with your claims early in Trump's time in office that he'd never serve out his term.
                  Let's be clear here, as a steaming pile of lying lefty shit, (like the asshole watermelons) you have never even ONCE delivered an accurate prediction. Not one.
                  Do you have any idea how science progresses, steaming pile of lying lefty shit? Here's how it works:
                  Someone with an IQ far beyond your abilities notes some 'arbitrage' (for lack of a better term) between what is currently seen and what your see as a result. You then, based on your knowledge (of which you seem to have none) predict an outcome.
                  If you indeed have intelligence to do so, you have 'advanced the art'.
                  As a steaming pile of lying lefty shit, you've never gotten close to that.
                  Trump shits on your grave.

                3. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

                  Tony explicitly comes out in favor of a coup by federal law enforcement. Thank you for your candor, Tony.

            2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

              Tony, the faggot groomer facist

        2. Sevo   3 years ago

          "You don’t have evidence. You don’t have a theory. You don’t even have thoughts. You have buzzwords in their place. You’re a mark. Read a fucking book."

          This is rich. We have nothing other than evidence from the primary source, and the steaming pile of lying lefty shit suggests I 'read a book'!

          1. Cyto   3 years ago (edited)

            In fairness, it has been working for them.

            Leslie Stahl saying “it isn’t verified” over and over. How many people still believe that?

            Everyone involved in the Russia hoax knew it was a hoax… and it has been thoroughly described to the public… yet very few understand even the outline. Most still believe it.

            How many reporters stood in front of riots telling you how peaceful it was?

            I watched Savanah Guthrie cover the Charlottesville protest clash and point out the people dressed in black as the instigators of violence. She watched in real time and told me they were attacking innocent protesters. She said they were nazis and remarked on the way they brazenly dressed like Nazis. She exclaimed "look at him hitting that woman!" Then they went to commercial and she told me the people in black were innocent counterprotesters against Nazis and they were viciously attacked by racists wearing cargo pants. No mention of her earlier remarks.

            How many times did the official story on covid change? Yet nobody even acknowledges that there was a change for most of it.

            Orwell was not being hyperbolic. People really do love big brother. They really will believe whatever they are told to believe. Even good people. Even smart people.

            1. Nardz   3 years ago

              Bingo.

            2. Nardz   3 years ago

              https://twitter.com/Aristos_Revenge/status/1603878763506327552?t=Iywwx7HZoq71YYtxu1-X9g&s=19

              This is why people must realize that hypocrisy is acceptable when it comes to dealing with the left. They realized this a long time ago, to their credit. Just as we joke about boomers going "sO mUcH fOr ThE tOlErAnT lEfT!!1" as the guillotine drops on them.

              Every time Elon states that a rule exists, these people will purposely break it in spectacular fashion in order to provoke punishment, so that in being punished they can cry out about unfairness and yell "so much for freedom of speech ELON!"

              Accusations of hypocrisy are a favored rhetorical weapon in the West, the difference is how one side reacts to receiving those accusations over the other.

              Many conservatives are deathly afraid of being accused of hypocrisy while the left can just laugh it off. Major weakness.

              Exposing lefties as hypocrites is not effective. Being accused of hypocrisy by lefties needs to also not be effective, and the best way to do that is to laugh at them as you drop the guillotine on them while they accuse you of hypocrisy. Learn from them.

              Don't be a hypocrite, however, within your own tribe. This is bad. But we are not one American tribe. At the most inclusive we are two tribes, the woke credentialists and everyone else. If you are "everyone else" then engage "everyone else" in good faith.

            3. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

              We have always been at war with Eastasia.

        3. Cyto   3 years ago

          Who pays you?

          1. Sevo   3 years ago

            Tony isn't paid, AFAIK. He's has claimed to be 'an editor', a graduate of a 'name' school, gay, and living in a gated community in AK(?).
            From those claims, it is likely he's either a trust-fund shit bag, or , perhaps a liar.
            My guess: He's the editor of "Dog Walkers Weekly" in the gated community of River Oaks, AK (or similar) with that trust fund support and little else to do other than drain that bottle and make an ass of himself here.
            I'll make a (supportable, but not doxxed) claim to have started and sold two businesses and running the third; the steaming pile of lying lefty shit could never had started the first. See here:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

              Tony isn’t paid, AFAIK. He’s has claimed to be ‘an editor’, a graduate of a ‘name’ school, gay, and living in a gated community in AK(?).

              Oklahoma. He hates red states, but can't leave the one he calls home.

              Like Artie and Shriek, he's a hicklib like most of the lefties who tend to pop up here. Sad little white boys who hate their skin color, but won't do the logical thing and kill themselves for that original sin.

              1. Truthfulness   3 years ago

                Send Tony to Ukraine, we could use a useful idiot like him to fight the Russians there if he truly believes the cause.

                1. Sevo   3 years ago

                  He'd just get in the way of those who know what they're doing.

    2. Brian   3 years ago

      It’s been hilarious watching journalist suddenly discover how important free speech is.

      Apparently, free speech is too dangerous on the internet because democracy and harm, unless you’re posting assassination coordinates of a person-of-interest, in which case, “free speech!”

      But of course, they don’t mean it. They mean “free speech for me, not for thee.”

  20. TJJ2000   3 years ago

    Can't build a Nazi(National Sozialist)-Empire....
    Without a Nazi-FBI ministry of truth...

    As history keeps repeating itself.... F'En Nazi-fanboy voters.

  21. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    FBI: Hello, this is the FBI.
    Caller: I want to report a Democrat committing felonies.
    FBI: I am sorry, that is out of our jurisdiction. Do you have anything on any Republicans?

    1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      Everyone thinks they can improve on the work of others - - - - - -

      FBI: Hello, this is the FBI.
      Caller: I want to report a Democrat committing felonies.
      FBI (aside to the next desk): Get a trace on this quick! Another insurrectionist!
      FBI: I am sorry, that is out of our jurisdiction. Do you have anything on any Republicans?

  22. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    "Barack Obama Has Missing Records. When Will the FBI Ransack His House?"
    --- Townhall

  23. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    It is not JUST the top levels of the FBI that is corrupt:
    “An internal FBI report kept under wraps for three years details dozens of cases of agents fired for egregious misconduct and crimes, including drug trafficking, attempted murder, theft, misuse of informants and consorting with prostitutes.
    The report, released Wednesday by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, found that about one in 1,000 agents was dismissed for serious misconduct or criminal offenses by the FBI during the period examined, from 1986 to 1999. The average was between eight and nine per year.”
    --- CBS News 2004
    And this was in 2004. As we all have seen, the FBI is far more corrupt today.

    1. Tony   3 years ago

      Something both the right and left agree on. Of course only the left is consistently critical of American law enforcement.

      1. TJJ2000   3 years ago

        Maybe if the Law is Constitutional or Not has something to do with that. There is no such thing as a GUN-less government and anarchy isn't what the USA is founded on either.

      2. Sevo   3 years ago

        "Something both the right and left agree on. Of course only the left is consistently critical of American law enforcement."

        Steaming pile of lying lefty shit seems to think (? - tough call) that means something.

      3. Truthfulness   3 years ago

        Tell that to Kyle Rittenhouse.

      4. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

        And yet, that's not even true. Jesus, do you ever deal with facts or is it always tribal narratives?

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          In his defense, he’s dumb as a box of rocks, besides being a liar.

      5. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        You just posted your approval of the FBI committing a coup against an elected president, and you're claiming that you're "consistently critical of American law enforcement."?

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          In fairness, that's exactly what Reason does.

      6. Brian   3 years ago

        Of course only the left is consistently critical of American law enforcement.

        lol

  24. JasonAZ   3 years ago

    "As with previous Twitter Files disclosures, it's not that this information was totally unsuspected; it was already abundantly clear that government officials were in regular communication with social media companies and flagging content for moderation. But it's useful to see the scale of that interaction as well as some specific examples. The extent to which Big Tech and Big Government are working in tandem to crack down on dissent, contrarianism, and even humor is frankly disturbing."

    Wait, I thought Reason was steadfast in their defense of Twitter censorship because it's a private company and there wasn't any government involvement? We've moved right from "it's not happening, STFU icky conservatives" to "of course it was happening, but we didn't realize to what extent." Notice how this allows Robbie and the rest of Reason staff to avoid any type of responsibility for their defending what was obvious to the rest of us.

    Robbie, I appreciate you covering part of this story. That's more than much of the MSM. But you and Reason owe your readers an apology for having your head in the sand on this issue for the last 6 years. Even without the Twitter Files releases, there was ample evidence of maleficence between the government and Twitter plus other social media platforms.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Reason was still bleating the “muh private company” nonsense after both Psaki and Biden admitted on camera that they were instructing social media who to censor.

      They have zero credibility on this topic.

  25. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

    Musk's Twitter is censoring journalists and people who criticize Musk.

    Robby Soave and the right-wing junior varsity are focused on . . . this shit.

    Carry on, disaffected clingers. So far as your betters permit, anyway.

    Happy holidays!

    1. Philadelphia Collins   3 years ago

      A totalitarian cheerleader.

      1. NOYB2   3 years ago

        Kirkland is a fascist.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      Doxing someones location for the mob isn’t the same as criticizing. And they did it on purpose so they could play the victim.

      Have you heard the audio of them crying to Musk like children trying to get away with breaking the rules? They sound like a bunch of little bitches that spent their childhood getting pummeled by bigger stronger children, like you did.

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

        Getting stomped into irrelevance by your betters in the culture war -- which was a predictable trajectory for antisocial, disaffected, on-the-spectrum, bigoted right-wingers -- has made you cranky.

        That's no problem replacement won't solve, of course.

        Carry on, clingers. So far as your betters permit, and even then you should be nicer before the liberal-libertarian mainstream chooses to become less magnanimous toward the culture war's casualties.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Nah, I’m doing just fine. Then again I’m not a bigot that calls others bigots.

          Cognitive dissonance isn’t healthy. Maybe go back to whoever helped you get over your obsession with orally raping your political opponents?

          1. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

            If you were doing fine you would not be such a malcontent and misfit loitering at the obsolete, powerless, worthless political fringe.

            1. Sevo   3 years ago

              Fuck off and die, asshole bigot.

        2. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

          Gays against Groomers...the degenerates are being kicked out of the gay movement...the cultural marxists, DIE bolshies and the rest are being exposed for the threat they are to liberty. Get on the liberty train..it is gaining speed.

          1. Truthfulness   3 years ago

            Send Artie to Ukraine, he can serve as a useful idiot against the Russians.

          2. kfs   3 years ago

            According to Tony cultural Marxism doesn't exist.

      2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        Doxing someones location for the mob isn’t the same as criticizing.

        And it's DEFINITELY not the same as making a pronoun joke, or wondering if the vaccines might have side effects...

    3. Sevo   3 years ago

      Fuck off and die, asshole bigot.

    4. DaveM   3 years ago

      I imagine you'll be singing a different tune when the censorship is directed at you. You don't see it coming, because you mistakenly believe it can't happen to you. Nothing could be further from the truth.

      The government within the government that takes as its mission the policing of satire, jokes and opinion clearly doesn't care what you think. You're just a data point to them. As soon as it's no longer convenient to let you carry on as you do, you'll be targeted for removal.

  26. DaveM   3 years ago (edited)

    Hey, no biggie. The FBI, DOJ, DHS, and their contractors at Stamford and Washington University just told Twitter which posts and accounts to censor so they could interfere in our elections and throw both elbows on the scale towards the Democrats.

    Yeah, nothing to see here. Move along. These aren’t the government employees and contractors disobeying the First Amendment that you’re looking for. It’s all those “domestic terrorist” parents standing in line to complain at school board meetings you really should be worried about.

    Come on, Man!

  27. Catch33   3 years ago

    "But Twitter's a private company!"

    Yeah, this is a private company. Like I was born fuckin yesterday, go fuck yourself with that shit....

  28. Bubba Jones   3 years ago

    Humorless trolls complaining about humorous trolls. It’s turtles all the way down.

  29. NOYB2   3 years ago

    Maybe the FBI has something better to do with its time?

    The FBI has become part of a propaganda machinery, and mocking the state is just about the worst crime for progressives and other statists, because once people don't take the state seriously anymore, they are done.

    That is why three letter agencies view stomping down on mockery, sarcasm, and dissent as their top priority; they literally have "nothing better to do".

  30. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

    Reason: "Twitter is a private company"

    Musk buys

    ENB: "OMG..go to Mastodon"

    Twitter releases the truth: Reason "Musk is censoring people, collusion between the Federal Govt, DNC and woke managers at Twitter is nothing to be concerned about. And pedos and kiddie porn on Dorsey Twitter was no big thing."

    Reason Foundation please fire the entire Reason Staff..they don't represent the principals of sound money, free markets, limited govt, peace and moral integrity.

    1. NOYB2   3 years ago

      Why would they fire the Reason staff? They are doing exactly what they were hired to do.

      1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        Robert Conquest's 3rd law

  31. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    The Intercept founding editor [Glenn Greenwald] claims journalists working with 'FBI, CIA and the NSA ... to manipulate the American people'
    --- Fox News 10/20/20

  32. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    Anyone serving on a jury where the FBI is a party should carefully consider any evidence furnished by the FBI. Hopefully such a juror will be acquainted with the concept of jury nullification in case it is necessary to protect an innocent citizen from the FBI.
    A judge will not let the defense attorney explain Jury Nullification to you so know what it is before you serve on ANY jury.

  33. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    “Mr. Strzok wrote, “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40…”
    -- The Wall Street Journal
    Democrat Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director, FBI.

  34. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    “Grassley to DOJ: Why Is There a Redaction on a Strzok Text Message Referring to the Obama White House 'Running an Investigation'” --- Townhall

  35. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    “Obama knew details of wiretapped Flynn phone calls, surprising top DOJ official in meeting with Biden, declassified docs show”
    ----- Fox News 5/7/20

  36. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    "Sitting with Bill watching CNN. A TON more out," Strzok texted Page on January 10, 2017. "Hey let me know when you can talk. We're discussing whether, now that this is out, we use it as a pretext to go interview some people."
    -- CNN 9/14/18
    Democrat Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director, FBI

  37. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    “Fifteen minutes after Donald Trump was sworn in as the 45th President of the United States Susan Rice, who had just become the former National Security Adviser sent out her last email using her official White House email account.
    The strange part of the email was that its purpose seemed to be to get on the record that the Obama administration did nothing wrong in the Russia investigation. She noted repeatedly how Obama emphasized during the meeting on Russian that he wanted every aspect of the issue handled “by the book.”
    -- Susan Rice’s Strange Email: Note To Self, We Did Nothing Wrong 2/13/18

  38. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    “…an April 10, 2017, text from Strzok to Page that said: “I had literally just gone to find this phone to tell you I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go.”
    Then, two days later, Strzok reached out to Page to congratulate her for planting two stories that were critical of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
    “Well done, Page,” Strzok wrote.”
    --- New York Post 9/11/18
    Democrat Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director, FBI

  39. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    "Who is Ray Epps? The Capitol riot figure who disappeared from the FBI’s wanted list"
    --- Yahoo News 1/12/22
    “Who is Ray Epps and why has the FBI protected him?”
    --- World Tribune 10/27/21

  40. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    "Ms. Sanborn, was Ray Epps a fed?" Cruz asked. "How many FBI agents or confidential informants actively participated in the events of January 6th?"
    "Sir, I can't answer that”
    Ted Cruz Asks FBI Assistant Director: "Was Ray Epps A Fed?"
    --- Real Clear Politics 1/11/22

  41. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    “Say what? James Comey admits he voted ‘Communist’ while cold war was raging…”
    ----- Citizen Free Press May 2019

    1. NOYB2   3 years ago

      It appears Brennan did vote communist.

      Comey was a leftist, but appears to have been joking when he called himself a communist.

      The link below is biased, but it contains useful background.

      https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2019/05/fake-news-comey-did-not-vote-communist-while-cold-war-was-raging.html

  42. StoneTalons   3 years ago

    “WASHINGTON, DC: The Obama White House used the most sensitive intrusive surveillance systems of the NSA to spy on Americans. A ruling by FISA Court Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer finds that 85% of NSA database requests under FISA section 702 authority at the DOJ were illegal or noncompliant. Surveillance systems, including PRISM, spying on hundreds if not thousands of Americans. Including Donald Trump and those around him.”
    FISA Court exposes Obama’s abuse of NSA to spy on Americans
    --- Communities Digital News May 2019

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Thanks Stone. Of course the libertarians at Reason reported none this.

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      Links would be really helpful.

  43. Liberty Lover   3 years ago

    Very reminiscent of Josef Stalin's USSR. If you told someone a Stalin joke someone would denounce that person from fear and the jokester would get 25 years in the gulag. Listening to a Stalin joke and not denouncing the teller would also get you 25 years in the gulag if someone else denounced the jokester and you!

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