A Lame-Duck Congress Should Reject the Extended Child Tax Credit
The policy has some bipartisan support, despite the fact that it has mostly been a failure since its inception.

Democrats have lost the House of Representatives and, along with it, the chance to pass more of their preferred policies in 2023. This makes the "lame duck" period before the January arrival of the new Congress their last opportunity to fully control Capitol Hill for a while. It's also a chance for outgoing legislators from either party to pretty much do as they please. My fear is that the outgoing majority will, with the help of some misguided Republicans, push for a disastrous expansion of the child tax credit.
Such a measure would revive the expanded credit passed by Congress in the American Rescue Plan of 2021, under the cover of the pandemic. Thankfully it expired before being made permanent. But Democrats have expressed their intentions to prioritize bringing back the policy, which would give a $3,000 child tax credit for dependents ages 6 and up and a $600 bonus for younger children.
The credit allowance would be fully refundable to those who pay no income tax, meaning that someone who earned $0 last year could receive as much as $9,600 for two children and a toddler, with part of it paid monthly by the Internal Revenue Service. The cost would be enormous—probably around $1.6 trillion over 10 years. That's not due merely to the dollar amount of the credit, but also to the fact that most parents with children, even very rich ones, would be eligible for a significant portion of it.
Among the unfortunate consequences would be that it would kick even more people off the tax roll, thus raising the question of how sustainable an income tax system can be if most people don't pay such taxes. But the biggest problem resides in the fact that by causing people to leave the workforce and reduce work effort, capital investment would be discouraged, ultimately further slowing economic growth. With fewer new ventures, fewer workers, and fewer related investments, less wealth is created. The result in the long run would likely be an increase in child poverty.
These problems are not unique to the extended child tax credit. In fact, the child tax credit itself has mostly been a failure since its inception in 1997. It has consistently failed to deliver on its promise of reducing child poverty. None of the many expansions since then have succeeded, either.
In a recent piece for The Wall Street Journal, economist Scott Hodge described how the whole debacle began as a result of his floating the idea of a child tax credit in 1993. He writes, "The 'put money in people's pockets' approach of the child tax credit might have been good politics, but 25 years' experience shows it was bad policy."
A massive expansion of the credit, along with the lack of work requirements and the cash payments, would add significantly to the problem. In fact, most studies that forecast a significant reduction in child poverty due to the expanded version do not account for the many potential short-term work disincentives embedded in it.
As the American Enterprise Institutes' Scott Winship explained a few months ago, these studies also do not model "short-term incentives that would be expected to increase the share of children living with single parents, nor any long-term incentives on work, living arrangements, marriage, or fertility that might be expected to work against poverty reduction even more. It does not examine the potentially negative impact of the expanded CTC on other outcomes, such as intergenerational mobility."
Studies that do take all of this and more under account are sounding an alarm that legislators seem eager to ignore. For instance, economists from the University of Chicago found that the expanded credit could drive 1.5 million workers, or 2.6 percent of all working parents, out of the labor force. This would in turn swamp the impact of putting money in these parents' pockets and explain why the authors also find a small reduction in child poverty from the credit but no impact at all on deep child poverty.
Democrats are likely hoping to get willing Republicans to go along their plans during the lame-duck session. I hope legislators will realize that the changes could also reduce income mobility, with all the known ill consequences for children. After the welfare reform of the 1990s, increased employment among low-income parents has driven much of the long-term declines in child poverty. It would be a shame to see some of that undone.
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A lame duck Congress should just adjourn and fuck off home before they do any more damage.
Unless they want to cut spending.
They can't by themselves. Biden would veto anything even if they did grow a spine and stand on their hind legs.
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Milton Friedman was in favor of a negative income tax and this is close enough.
Not exactly. Actually, not even close. The "negative income tax," under Friedman's model, would replace ALL other welfare benefits and government handouts. In this context, it's just an "add-on."
Tax cuts aren't spending. It isnt a welfare benefit.
Now if discussing a credit that goes beyond taxes owed, then yes.
Perhaps I didn’t make it clear: a tax credit, as you correctly say, IS a tax reduction, albeit for a particular class of people in a certain income bracket. It is not a “negative income tax.”
Under a “negative income tax, even those who made no money at all would receive a check. In Friedman’s model, the amount of that check would be somewhere comfortably below the equivalent of full-time work at minimum wage, and would replace all other welfare benefits. The tax structure under Friedman would also eliminate social security, government-provided unemployment benefits, and most “personal deductions,” presumably including tax deductions for dependent children.
Of course, through various posts to which you have responded, I recognize that you already know this.
And, if you will forgive my long-windedness: the child tax credit is not related to a “negative income tax.”
The EITC is, though, and Friedman strongly supported it. It's the same damn thing.
"The EITC is, though, and Friedman strongly supported it. It’s the same damn thing."
Perhaps not quite so strongly....
"Friedman was also instrumental in developing policy proposals using the theory of the negative income tax. The Earned Income Tax Credit, which Friedman actually opposed..." (from the Tax Foundation: "Remembering Milton Friedman")
Before Hitler copied so freely from it, Edward Bellamy's "Equality" predicted These States as a corporation peopled by citizen dividend-drawers, everywhere decorated with statues of labor union collectivists defending uncrossable picket-line borders with outthrust jaws. The Third Reich's practical application appears to have damped enthusiasm for Bellamy's prophesies regarding the year 2000. Soviet necromancers in 1960 predicted Sharknados by 2016, thanks to the evil capitalist Second Amendment.
Milton Friedman was not in favor of a negative income tax. To fanatical bloodsucking looters unshakably convinced that taxes are more important than life itself, he suggested it as a sort of methadone-like alternative with which to taper them off of the fascination. Friedman freely admitted that if the choice existed he preferred abolition of all taxes to a negative income tax.
Not disagreeing. A "negative income tax" is simply a much more efficient system than the current one -- meaning a system not reliant on hundreds of billions of dollars annually spent on government employee salaries to disperse money. And as far as tax cuts...
"That’s why for a long time now I have been in favor of any tax cut, under any circumstances, in any way, in any form whatsoever."
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/milton-friedman-and-moral-argument-tax-cuts-peter-robinson/
Why do we incentivize people who can't afford children having children?
Also, what's with the comment?
but also to the fact that most parents with children, even very rich ones, would be eligible for a significant portion of it.
For fuck's sake, if you're pretending to be libertarians, stop making this "but even rich people" shit. Something's really wrong with you if you think it's unfair because the people who actually paid the most taxes are the least deserving of a tax credit.
I don't want to pay for anyone's kids; it would allow me to save up to give more to my nieces and nephews.
I already pay for everyone else's kids 'education' and a whole host of other things.
That may apply to low income beneficiaries but the well off ones are just keeping more of their own money.
I can see good reasons to encourage children and families but it needs to be done within the confines of your own means so tax reductions would be fine but credits should be out.
You aren't paying for other peoples kids. Tax cuts aren't spending.
It isn’t a tax cut that is being proposed, it is a refundable tax credit that doesn’t have a requirement to work, unlike the earned income tax credit. Meaning a person with 2 kids and zero income for the prior year would be entitled to 6 grand just because they have kids. So, unlike a tax cut that just allows you to keep more of your own money, this is a de facto welfare benefit. So yes you are paying for other peoples kids.
Yeah, "progressive" taxation schemes are NOT "equal protection under the law" and that's what flat-taxers base their preference on.
"Why do we incentivize people who can’t afford children having children?"
So you're saying the payment isn't big enough? Do you see the nonsense in your statement? This is money given to people with children. If they couldn't afford children before, maybe they can after they get the money.
I believe Stuck in California is saying we shouldn't incentivize irresponsibility. If you can't afford to have kids but have them anyway, you shouldn't expect compensation for your foolishness. Paying to save fools breeds more of the same.
Tony knows that, he’s just desperately trying to throw some spaghetti at the wall and see if it sticks because he’s a brain damaged AIDS-riddled faggot retard.
And this is a bad thing?
HyR, efficiency analysts for the tax regime.
"someone who earned $0 last year could receive as much as $9,600"
All part of the Communist/National Sozialist(syn:Nazi) take over of the USA Democrats compulsively battle for.
And the Constitutional authority for this wealth redistribution is where???
Yeah; That's what I thought....
F'En Nazi's.
Do y'all ever look deep into the mirror and ask yourself why you live by an ideology that forces you to be monsters to the point of parody at nearly every opportunity?
If you have a worldview where your success or failure in life can be nearly totally dependent on who your parents happen to be, your worldview sucks and should be scrapped. You're free to do that, you know. But your worldview not only accepts this as a theoretical possibility, it endorses it maximally.
You're not worried that too few people are paying taxes to the federal government. You're worried that people might get it in their pretty little heads that the country's resources belong to them, and they can do with them what they want. Which is exactly what you believe, except instead of "the people" you apply it to "about 15 stupid cunts like Charles Koch."
Heaven forbid anyone *EARNS* by creating human resources and pretends they have any rights to their *EARNINGS*... /s
The reason you play the ZERO-SUM game is in the same idiocy you use to justify TAKING what you haven't earned and you realize STEALING from others isn't a sustainable system.
Open your bigoted criminal mind for F'Sakes. The world doesn't revolve around armed-theft. There is another world where there is both a Supply and a Demand. It's not a world of just DEMAND with a zero-sum Supply.
Yes, we are monsters, Tony. The next time you turn out the light, you might want to check under your bed first, just to be safe...
How many people were starved to death and put in concentration camps by capitalism in the 20th century, faggot?
Dig it. Rejecting the initiation of force as panacea cure for all ills is "an ideology that forces you to be monsters..."
Mirror mirror on the wall, who is most ignis fatuus of all?
I don't know anything about this particular payment but it is clearly irrelevant re people leaving or not entering the workforce. The welfare programs that have a huge impact on that are the means-tested programs. Those are the ones that get eliminated around the same point - from say 20-50k income. The result is that those reductions often completely offset all possible new income and this make it pointless for an individual to start working unless they can earn over 50-60k. Effective 'taxrates' (idk the real term that describes this) can often be well over 100% for some income tranches
Vero starts out asserting that both the Christian National Socialist and the Stasi Democratic Socialist factions of our looter Kleptocracy give "bipartisan" support to the above transfer payments from producers to non-producers. Where, oh where is the "tripartisan" policy that kleptocracy looters AND individual-rights libertarians all agree should be leveled at us? Or by "bipartisan" does Vero really mean "both barrels?"
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