Eric Adams' Plan To Involuntarily Hospitalize Mentally Ill Homeless People Will Face Legal Challenges
Civil liberties groups say Adams' plan violates constitutional rights protecting people with mental illness from being confined against their will simply for existing.

New York City Mayor Eric Adams announced Tuesday that he is directing police and other first responders to remove people with severe mental illness from the city's streets for involuntary psychiatric evaluations and hospitalizations, but the new policy will almost certainly face legal challenges from civil liberties groups, who say it tramples on well-established constitutional rights.
In remarks yesterday, Adams, who has also ordered aggressive clearings of homeless encampments in the city, characterized the new policy as a way to ensure mentally ill people on the streets receive compassionate care.
"The man standing all day on the street across from the building he was evicted from 25 years ago waiting to be let in; the shadow boxer on the street corner in Midtown, mumbling to himself as he jabs at an invisible adversary; the unresponsive man unable to get off the train at the end of the line without assistance from our mobile crisis team: These New Yorkers and hundreds of others like them are in urgent need of treatment and often refuse it when offered," Adams said.
Adams' policy directive states that, "If the circumstances support an objectively reasonable basis to conclude that the person appears to have a mental illness and cannot support their basic human needs to an extent that causes them harm, they may be removed for an evaluation."
The policy relies on an expanded interpretation of New York's mental health laws, which allow judges to compel someone with serious mental illness to take medication or undergo supervised psychiatric treatment if two physicians determine that the person's mental illness is "likely to result in serious harm to himself or others."
"The common misunderstanding persists that we cannot provide involuntary assistance unless the person is violent," Adams said. "Going forward, we will make every effort to assist those who are suffering from mental illness."
However, New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU) Executive Director Donna Lieberman said in a press release that Adams proposed expansion is "likely to violate" state and federal constitutional limits on when people with mental illness can be involuntarily committed.
"The Mayor is playing fast and loose with the legal rights of New Yorkers and is not dedicating the resources necessary to address the mental health crises that affect our communities," Lieberman said.
Adams' policy directive itself notes that "case law does not provide extensive guidance regarding removals for mental health evaluations based on short interactions in the field."
The Supreme Court ruled in the landmark 1975 case O'Connor v. Donaldson that mental illness alone is not a justification for indefinite custodial confinement, and that "a State cannot confine, without more, a nondangerous individual who is capable of surviving safely in freedom by himself or with the help of willing and responsible family members or friends."
"May the State fence in the harmless mentally ill solely to save its citizens from exposure to those whose ways are different?" Justice Potter Stewart wrote in the Court's majority opinion. "Mere public intolerance or animosity cannot constitutionally justify the deprivation of a person's liberty interest."
Since the ruling in O'Connor v. Donaldson, most state's laws surrounding involuntary psychiatric evaluations and commitments require that the person be a danger to themselves or others. Adams is also calling on the state legislature to amend New York's involuntary commitment law, Kendra's Law, to clarify that "likely to result in serious harm" encompasses basic survival needs such as shelter and food.
Such a change could have broad implications for homeless and disability rights, and give the state much more power to confine people against their will.
The NYCLU already opposes Kendra's Law in its current form. The organization argues the law unconstitutionally expanded the circumstances under which the state can compel people against their will to undergo mental health treatment.
Civil liberties advocates are also worried that police are not qualified to determine on the spot when someone is mentally ill and unable to care for themselves.
"I'm also concerned about when someone out on the street, a police officer makes the determination that someone because they smell, because they haven't had a shower for weeks, because their clothes are disheveled, they're mumbling to themselves. That in and of itself doesn't mean that you're a danger to yourself or others, or even under the watered-down standard that it means that you're likely to result in serious harm to yourself or others," civil rights lawyer Norman Siegel told Gothamist.
The potential for police abuse is not hypothetical; it's happened before. In 2009, NYPD officers raided the apartment of fellow officer Adrian Schoolcraft after Schoolcraft blew the whistle on illegal quotas in his precinct. Schoolcraft's brothers in blue then had him involuntarily committed to a psychiatric ward for six days. They also made a challenge coin celebrating their handiwork, which depicted Schoolcraft as a squealing rat in a straitjacket being hauled off in the back of an ambulance.
The only likely delay in a legal challenge to Adams' new policy will be the time it takes advocacy groups to find a client affected by it, and they won't have to wait long.
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It's about time someone in power stood up to say this. The laws and court decisions prohibiting involuntary treatment and housing of severely mentally ill people need to be overturned. Allowing people unable to care for themselves to live like stray dogs in the streets is an atrocity.
"Allowing people unable to care for themselves to live like stray dogs in the streets is an atrocity."
And putting them in "kennels" against their will is somehow "better?"
'And putting them in “kennels” against their will is somehow “better?”'
Certainly "better" for civilized society and, probably "better" for the people, unable to care for themselves, for self-described reasons.
"simply for existing"
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you, Republicans and increasingly Democrats want no Universal guaranteed public healthcare, including mental healthcare, you want to pay zero taxes to support the "losers" that Capitalism and Free Markets inevitably generate, you think private charity and philanthropy will solve it all, what exactly do you fucking want??
Charity could certainly accomplish much more without all the government regulation, interference and distortions. All of which have artificially raised the cost of healthcare to where it isn’t affordable no matter what. Nd no, I don’t want to consume most of our GDP through these socialist programs that are inefficient and ineffective.
It also might help if we didn’t have the democrats throwing open our southern border, adding millions to the welfare rolls. Further raising the cost of healthcare.
Universal guaranteed public healthcare, including mental healthcare
There is no such thing. And if you think something analogous to the public health services in France or the UK can be reproduced here at the federal level without it being so inefficient and inequitable that it would be pointless then you are not a serious participant in this discussion.
you want to pay zero taxes to support the “losers” that Capitalism and Free Markets inevitably generate
What's stopping "losers" from getting a job?
you think private charity and philanthropy will solve it all
This is how you can tell someone is a utopian, because they can't accept the idea that anyone could propose that a thing, like private charity, can be more effective than another thing, like government programs, without necessarily believing that that thing will solve absolutely all problems for everyone everywhere for all time.
Guess what? As long as time/space and living creatures exist, there will be problems. Don't be an Ultron. It never works out.
A more honest handle for you might be The Cliché Party.
Why do you hate children?
They're noisy and smelly and needy. They refuse to get a job and make illogical decisions and crowd the footpaths. Need more?
hospitalize, hotelize, quelle difference?
have you ever been in a medicaid psych ward?
I have, and I have daily contact with homeless mentally ill people. That's why I feel strongly that it should be easier to help these people whether they want it or not.
> should be easier to help (sic) these people whether they want it or not
"should be easier to hide these people whether they want it or not" fixed that for you
If by "fixed" you mean "straw-manned."
Go fix yourself.
"Adams' policy directive states that, "If the circumstances support an objectively reasonable basis to conclude that the person appears to have a mental illness and cannot support their basic human needs to an extent that causes them harm, they may be removed for an evaluation."
One has to wonder who is going to be the person in charge of making those "objectively reasonable" conclusions.
Probably the same people who make it now. There is a system for involuntary commitment.
No, there really isn't. I mean, there's a procedure on paper, but it's almost impossible to get it done. Under current laws and practices, it's very difficult to hold someone for more than 72 hours on a "pink slip".
He's not hospitalizing them, he's housing them.
> He’s not hospitalizing them, he’s housing them.
you're a piece of shit.
The big cities are broken and there is no way to fix them. Panhandlers on city streets, homeless encampments and violent assaults by mentally ill people are all disasters. Vagrancy laws used to keep the problem under control and it's not clear to me how those laws violate a person's constitutional rights. Either way you have to wonder why homeless people prefer to camp in vacant city lots instead of outside the city limits. There is no possible doubt that homeless encampments are a clear and present danger to public health and safety; also, repeatedly catching and releasing people arrested after violent assaults is pointless. There is no effective social "net" for chronic mental illness, and I don't want to pay for failed mental health care.
Culling the left would be a big first step to fixing things.
Mental illness in public infringes on the rights of others to freely go about their business.
Thank you! Their rights aren't more important than our rights.
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What a ridiculous inflammatory lie of a headline. First responders + 2 physician sign offs that someone is an imminent threat to themselves and others, in a system with so few beds only the worst of the worst can be kept, is not "simply for existing".
Mentally ill people have the right to freeze to death in the streets or starve rather than be forced to get health care and mental health services?
So if you see someone in a traffic accident, unconscious and bleeding to death, you should ignore them, because they might want that?
Mentally ill people have the right to freeze to death in the streets or starve rather than be forced to get health care and mental health services?
Things don't happen in a vacuum. We used to have a public mental health system. It wasn't pretty, and it took a long, long time to realize that it was doing a lot more harm than good.
Not every problem has a solution.
There is a solution, but the state can't manage it. It's up to individuals to "solve" the homeless problem.
Well, if it's an "accident", no. But if it's on purpose, then yes. Maybe move them out of the way or something.
A Scientifically Sound Remedy To Vagrancy Among The Mentally Il
Excerpt from the semi-fictional novel, Retribution Fever:
For mentally-unsound vagrants, each State should reëestablish a system of State-operated hospitals providing humane treatment and reasonable attempts at rehabilitation. Contrary to prior legal decisions of lawyer-judges trumping medical decisions of trained psychiatrists, allowing patients to work within the facility both subsidizes care — thereby, defraying the costs to the taxpayer — and functions as therapy. Amendment XIII in the original Constitution allowed convicts in prisons to work.
With regard to mental illness, before Retribution “humanitarians” had re-characterized severe mental illness as just another lifestyle, ignoring its biological basis. They successfully mounted campaigns to close State-operated hospitals, instead creating outpatient-clinics headed by anyone but physicians, especially psychiatrists.
The inescapable consequence had been to push patients into gutters, jails, and prisons. Then, those same “humanitarians” went to court, demanding the impossible — that their unfortunate victims receive the treatment that they had denied them when they forced closure of the only places that could provide such treatment outside the private sector.
Initially, some “Conservatives” had joined in the quest to close the hospitals. Their justification, however, was more economic than sociological.
What? No mention of Reagan emptying the mental hospitals?
That's what this entire conversation has been about. Try to keep up.
The state will end up taking control of the mentally ill. Imagine a perfectly Libertarian society in which everything is the private property of somebody. Even the “public” streets would be privately owned. Those individuals incapable of forming voluntary associations with others, not even friends or family, would have no place to go. They would be arrested for violating the property rights of others and be placed in government custody.
There is no easy answer to this problem and yes it can be abused, however, doing nothing is the worst option. If cops abuse it then focus on fixing enforcement. Far more people will be helped than hurt by it and that is the only real measurement of success.
The worst thing this country did was end involuntary commitment of the mentally ill. I realize that there were abuses, but leaving these people on the street hurts them and the rest of ur.
Closing the large state mental hospitals and replacing them with nothing was a tragedy and a solution to nothing. Anyone who thinks the kind of people who were once held involuntarily in the hospitals have better lives on the streets is simply unaware of the conditions of mentally ill street people.
This is long overdue. Shutting down the mental hospitals and institutions was one the biggest mistakes this country has ever made as far as public health policy is concerned.
While the Mayor appears to suck at pretty much everything, he is on to something here. I have said for sometime that the biggest problem for homeless Americans are homeless advocates. Those that feign caring but really have no desire for the problem to be solved. The question that should be asked is this: what life is better? Rotting on the streets, in danger and discomfort most of the time or being in an institution? Yes, sometime being locked in an institution. If you say the streets, you have no heart. If you could compel homeless with mental health and drug issues to be cared for AND you kept the criminal homeless in jails where they belong, the down on their luck homeless, that we will always have, could easily be cared for. The down on their luck homeless are the real losers in the skyrocketing homeless mess because the resources are strained. Shame on those that are criticizing the mayor. The mental and drug addicted homeless will never he helped by a house, and those that think they will are the real problem.
Mentally ills are not capable of making decisions of their own. It's a good thing we, as a community, provide them shelter, food and basic necessities for those whom otherwise can be danger to others or themselves.
They are camped out on public property so there are 3 options:
1. Let there be drug addled homeless people everywhere
2. Arrest them and imprison them
3. Institutionalize them
Maybe there’s some way to make charity more effective through deregulation, I’m not sure. If so that would be my choice, but if not have your pick at the other 3 shitty options.
Have any other useless extreme scenarios? Lack of beds in mental facilities and jails is usually the main problem in dealing with the immediate problems. Start there. The thing is, people don't want to put their money where their mouth is.
"...street shitting... nude in public.. open air drug dens... rape, violence.. theft.."
These things, in every place of which I am aware, are against the law. Nobody I know supports these activities. I am hoping you don't think that it's proper to incarcerate people because they "look" like they "might" do something on that list?
"There are CHILDREN in CAGES!"
Hey, he compared homeless people to stray dogs. Do you not understand "analogy?" I'll just bet you do. Lighten up.
You usually pay double for that kind of action, Cotton.
I've stepped in human shit while AT work.
if you want to take away the civil rights of the person shitting on the sidewalk instead of paying taxes and supporting a social safety net so people don't get to the point where they're shitting on the sidewalk, [Jeff Foxworthy voice] YOU MIGHT BE A GLIBERTARIAN!
Then you're not aware of much. SF has decriminalized most of these and if you're the right demographic or lack of income bracket they'll let the rest slide too.
"SF has decriminalized most of these and if you’re the right demographic or lack of income bracket they’ll let the rest slide too."
I completely aware of that. And I find it unacceptable. But locking up the homeless just because they are "homeless" and some cop thinks they should be locked up is not a solution or even a movement towards a solution.
I have worked, professionally, though not extensively, with the homeless, including homeless vets, from program design (under the Bush administration), to implementation, surveys, as well as being one of the "boots on the ground." The problem is complex, as it has been for many years, and is not going to be easily solved by Adam's "grandstanding."
You’ve got clients who into scat?
I hate to break this to you, but San Francisco is a city that is positively made of "social safety nets." We may not have the federal welfare that you may desire, but SF has very generous welfare programs for literally anyone who cares to show up.
And yet people still shit in the streets.
Soft headed wokie leftist thinking. Everything you said is basically the same as what the homeless leave on sidewalks throughout San Francisco.
The taxes we pay are for the very "social safety net" that is supposed to be thrown over those, who shit in the streets, AKA jail.
Your idea of some kind of program that would make it that they don't get to the point where they're shitting on the sidewalk, hasn't been invented.
Cities spend tens of thousands of dollars, per "homeless" person, and it doesn't make a dent.
Get into the real world.
He must work at the home sqrlsy’s in.
Not "clients", to be accurate, but, yes, I sometimes have to deal with coprophiles.
You're putting the "anal" in "analogy".
Cages that Obama Built!
I read your comment -- twice. And I still think Jefferson's Ghost's reply to you was fair.
I am sure it is a complex problem. So with your experience surely you have encountered at least a few, a small percentage, of homeless people who were mentally ill and not truly competent but who were still on the streets because there hasn't been any political will up until now to step in for these people? It seems that the current proposal is addressing those people.