Mystified by Mastodon? We're Here To Help.
Mastodon might not be the future of decentralized social media, but it can’t hurt to check it out as Twitter implodes.

For years we've been hearing from folks in government that Twitter is a monopoly—in need of government regulation to either cut it down to size or enable alternatives. This has never been true, as there are both established alternatives (Facebook, Reddit, Snapchat, Instagram, etc.) and newcomers (TikTok, Gab, Parler, Truth Social, Clubhouse). In light of the many alternatives already available, the recent rise of Mastodon is not that surprising.
But Mastodon's peculiar setup and history make it both an unlikely heir apparent to an imploding Twitter and an appealing one.
Founded in 2016, Mastodon has been chugging along quietly for years until Elon Musk's Twitter takeover spurred sudden mass interest in the decentralized social media service. Monthly active users are now up 576 percent, to 2.5 million, according to the Mastodon website.
Want to get on Mastodon (or at least understand what all the hubbub is about)? Here's what you need to know.
How Mastodon Works
In many ways, Mastodon works a lot like Twitter. It's a text-dominant "micro-blogging" platform designed for short posts and real-time interaction. Users create basic profiles, follow other users, and see posts from those they follow in their Mastodon feed.
But there are also a lot of differences—the biggest being that a single, centralized entity doesn't run Mastodon. Instead of one corporation owning, maintaining, and setting the rules for all of Mastodon, it consists of thousands of independent servers—or "instances"—that share the same open-source code.
These servers are run independently by individuals or groups and come with their own sign-up policies, privacy policies, codes of conduct, and other rules. Some Mastodon servers are open to anyone, some are invite-only, and some you can apply to join. Some are more general, while others are organized around a particular region, interest, profession, or common theme. For instance, Liberdon bills itself as "a Mastodon instance for libertarians, ancaps, anarchists, voluntaryists, agorists, etc." Federated.press says it's "a Mastodon instance for all who pursue the journalistic ethic." Epicure.social is "a Mastodon community with a food and wine focus." And so on.
When first joining Mastodon, you pick a particular server to join. You can search for servers on the Mastodon app or find a list of many of them here. You might seek a server whose content moderation policies you find most agreeable or one based on your interests. But don't sweat this decision too much—users can switch servers anytime and take their followers. More importantly, you can still follow and interact with people on other servers no matter which server you join.
Essentially, Mastodon is a federation of independent but interconnected servers. It's common to see Mastodon users refer to it as the "fediverse."
For the most part, folks in one part of the Mastodon fediverse can see and interact with folks in all other parts of the Mastodon fediverse. But there are some exceptions. A server may block one or multiple other servers from access for various reasons. (For instance, several servers are reportedly blocking the journa.host server.) Users from a blocked server are then unable to see posts from or interact with users on a server that has them blocked.
How to Create a Mastodon Account
To create a Mastodon account, go to joinmastodon.org or download the Mastodon app on your phone from the Apple App Store or the Google Play store. You'll be asked to pick a server first, and then choose a username and fill out some basic information.
On Mastodon, your username combines a name you pick with the server you're on (so, for instance, I'm @enbrown@journa.host).
Some servers will let you join instantly (and start posting right away), while others servers have administrators review applications before approval.
How to Use Mastodon
Once you have a Mastodon account, you can post and view posts using the Mastodon app on your phone, a desktop app (Whalebird and Hyperspace are two popular ones), or by visiting your server's URL. Some server URLs have Mastodon in the name (i.e., mastodon.pirateparty.be) while others do not (i.e., indieweb.social).
You can choose various privacy levels for posts, including public, unlisted (similar to public but not appearing in public timelines), only to your followers, or direct (only to people mentioned in the post).
To "tweet" on Mastodon used to be called to "toot," but Mastodon recently changed this to "publish," and many people simply refer to things as "posts."
How Mastodon Is Different
There are no ads; server operations are funded privately or through crowdfunded donations.
Posting large video or image files is discouraged since server space is limited and operated by groups at their own expense or through donations.
There are no algorithms—something Mastodon users often mention as a selling point, though that really depends on your perspective. (I, for one, tend to prefer an algorithmic feed when it's done right). Instead, you see posts from those you follow in chronological order or, if you toggle to different tabs, a running chronological feed of things posted by everyone on your server or on your server and all servers it knows.
There is no centralized verification process or symbol on Mastodon. But on your profile page, you can prove your own identity by verifying that you're affiliated with web pages that you link to. By inserting a line of code on those sites (your professional portfolio page, for instance), your mastodon links will show up as verified.
There's no way to search for posts by keyword, and there are no quote tweets. Again, these are features that Mastodon users tend to tout as benefits (they make it less easy to create some toxic patterns and pile-ons that define Twitter), although their utility depends on your perspective. Things like this can also make Mastodon less compelling and/or less useful, especially if you're the type to use Twitter to follow news on particular topics, to kill time following strangers' drama, or to find commentary on a specialized subject.
Hashtags do work, however—and are used more liberally on Mastodon than on current Twitter since it's the only way to get posts to a wider audience of users following a particular topic.
Mastodon also features some things Twitter users often pine for, like longer character limits (up to 500 characters) and an ability to edit posts after they're published.
But there is no threading, no in-app article or video views, and no preview of any links shared, all of which make the experience less seamless and possibly less useful from a promotional standpoint.
Mastodon also provides users with the ability to put content warnings on posts so that someone scrolling past will only see the warning at first and have to click through to see the content. This feature has been getting a lot of mockery on Twitter, but it's also something that many on Mastodon seem to use and appreciate. Whether it's used frequently or not in your Mastodon circles will largely depend on the norms of your particular server and/or communities.
This brings us to two central points about Mastodon. First, people are still very much figuring out how to use it and what the norms are. Yes, it's been around for a while, but it attracted relatively niche audiences. The influx of new users in recent weeks is shaking up all sorts of things in the fediverse. Second, Mastodon provides a lot of room for different experiences. As a decentralized platform with greater customization potential, Mastodon users will have a less uniform experience than your average Twitter user.
Notes of Caution
On Mastodon, there's no separate section for seeing direct messages between users. To directly message someone using the web version of Mastodon, you go to their profile, click the three little dots in the top right corner, and click the option to message them directly. These direct posts are theoretically only for the eyes of you and whoever is mentioned in them, but they technically could be viewed by your server's administrators. So any particularly sensitive or scandalous information you might want to save for sharing elsewhere. The Electronic Frontier Foundation has more on Mastodon privacy policies and concerns here.
P.S. I asked Mastodon users what newcomers should know. Here are a few responses:
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I look forward to the first time ENB's round-up links include a lot of Mastodon posts.
Do Vox and Matthew Iglesias have Mastodon accounts?
Yes. I would link but Twitter removed all tweets regarding people migrating it seems.
The journalists all banning each other on mastodon is hilarious though.
Musk has been banning all the pedo accounts.
It’s no wonder leftists and fake-libertarians are leaving.
There's apparently an amazing overlap between pedo accounts and antifa accounts. One could make a very nice, nearly overlapping venn diagram of it.
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I’ve been hearing that for years now. Funny how the FBI never does anything about them.
She's an idiot who is wrong about almost everything. Twitter is not "imploding" at all, but the mindless sheep must bleat.
I don't spend much time on there, but it's clear the self-censorship has abated. Thus the liberal tears.
The narrative requires it to happen. Musk, despite having similar politics to these people, is still the big bad. He's got IDGAF money, he actually is interested in freedom of speech, and his autism-spectrum brain doesn't work at all how theirs do. They base their lives on the narrative, emotions, and bowing down to the victim causes of the day. Basically everything they use to guilt white women doesn't work at all on him, and he mocks it.
Also fun watching them desperately try to have the story be "the so-called genius isnt really smart at all, he had nothing to do with Tesla succeeding, he isnt a good businessman, and his mask is off" which definitely isnt them projecting their extreme insecurities and wanting the bad man who rejects the narrative to fail.
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The implosion is the collapse of the precious bubble that right-thinking elite people need to survive.
Poor ENB doesn't feel safe without her censoring overlords at the helm. People are dying, bleat the sheep.
I don't know about safe. But I bet ENB, like many others, prefers not to be associated with anything where she could be confused with a (gasp!) conservative. Just like not wearing a mask.
Remember when there were a lot of questions about big tech censoring stories, which was a huge outrage because they worked in conjunction with both the FBI and journalists to make sure negative stories about democrats didnt get out, or were classified as "Russian Misinformation (TM)!"
Remember when their response to that was "Twitter has done a very bad thing, here is how to download Parler and navigate it to get around the blatant propaganda that Twitter has become."
Wait...how come they never promoted alternatives before? Really weird...
Imploding Twitter? Sure sweetie sure. Yes Musk is getting rid of the pedos and skettle color hair groomers..let them go to Mastodon or whatever...as long as we expel these cultural marxist degenerates the better...now Reason will you finally condemn the pedos?
I am convinced Reason is a progressive mouthpiece now. This exact same article, although by a different author and using different words, appeared in the Financial Times this AM.
Seems like articles are already being seeded by the Illuminati.
The funny thing too is that, apparently, this is publishable journalism. It feels like something out of an AARP bulletin or something from a retirement community's welcome brochure.
-How to sign up for a newspaper or magazine subscription.
-How to sign up for an internet connection.
-How to sign up for email.
-How to sign up for Facebook.
-How to sign up for Mastodon.
Does the financial times talk about Twitter's implosion as well? Because that, to me, would be a smoking shell casing of propaganda.
https://www.ft.com/content/6a4c5f6b-ace1-49fa-850e-e5bf1dac65e3
"Thanks to Elon Musk’s rather erratic approach to free speech, employee relations, subscriptions, parodies and disinformation, a lot of people have taken to Twitter to declare that they are leaving Twitter. They will find it hard."
Erratic? Musk is merely enforcing the rules that have been on the books since Twitter started. Of course, the Left doesn't like the rules applied to them so they're throwing a temper tantrum.
Same but different? Proof of conspiracy!
Or the author is just a lazy asshole.
O’Sullivan’s First Law:
"All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing."
But how do I get a blue check or blue tusk or whatever the fuck signifies privileged elite status?
That's what's going to ruin it for the blue checks. That and how mass censorship is almost impossible.
There's going to be a lot of authoritarian tears when they realize Mastodon isn't Twitter 2.0.
Unfortunately, censorship on Mastodon is now worse than on Twitter: you can only be part of the federated system if you agree to their censorship.
Of course you can run your own separate network, but that’s pointless.
Mastodon is so censorious that you don’t need to.
While you can run your own Mastodon node, to be part of the network you have to agree to radical left wing censorship, and the same applies to clients.
Mastodon was created by people who thought that Twitter was too right wing and not censored enough in its heyday.
Thank you for bringing this up. I tried mastodon several years ago until I realized my website was like a tiny blip outside a massive universe in which my views were unwelcome entirely...but they'd gladly take my $$ and host the site. I'm a freaking moderate but felt treated like a Ultra maga there
Someone's sure salty about Twitter letting go its progressive content police.
^ You get it.
Never saw Reason seeing a need to do these when conservatives were being silenced.
Once that stopped, Reason is NOW on board with this.
Nice to know their deep "MUH PRIVATE PLATFORMZ!!" stance is totally real.
Rolling my eyes so hard.
Your sense of persecution is astounding.
Got a cite for that?
And your dishonesty is astonishing Mike. It takes a special kind of retard to pretend that banning the Babylon Bee, Jordan Peterson and the British Medical Journal wasn't ideologically motivated.
So Twitter didn't disproportionately ban conservatives? Is that what you're going with?
Twitter disproportionately banned assholes.
It just so happened that the assholes were disproportionately conservative.
Yup, this is usually the standard line. The banning of people I don't like is right because *reasons*. The most foundational of all authoritarian positioning.
P.S. if assholes are banned, why are only right leaning assholes the ones being banned?
Left-wingers banned by Old Twitter
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/twitter-political-account-ban-us-mid-term-elections
List of people banned on Twitter:
https://www.thewrap.com/people-who-have-been-banned-from-twitter/
Lots of right-wingers but also left-wingers too.
It is just not true that they banned only right-wingers.
Yup, ban some gives cover. It’s like writing an article critical of the left after writing 1000 articles critical of the right and claiming parity.
Tell me, what true story about a Republican was banned like the Hunter Biden story?
Tell me, would you expect a bunch of #staywoke shirts in a neutral office environment?
The most infuriating thing is for people to try and gaslight that something isn’t occurring when everyone knows that it is. The reason the left is so upset about Musk’s takeover of Twitter is understanding that people on the right will be able to post more than has been allowed. That is the main reason for the anger. Yet, you are trying to gaslight through the obvious, the obvious that people on your side of the political isle have even stated.
The post truth world we live in is just fascinating.
"The most infuriating thing is for people to try and gaslight that something isn’t occurring when everyone knows that it is."
This is why Jeff is so disgusting. On an ostensibly libertarian website no less.
You are the disgusting one. You are a knee-jerk Team Red defender and you are not very bright to boot. All the snow in Canada must have rotted your brain.
Snow rots brains? What a stupid thing to say.
Where does that leave you fatfuck? ML’s intellect is an order of magnitude greater than yours. Now shut the fuck up and go back to your industrial sized barrel of Ben & Jerry’s.
Ace of Spades banned assholes. That's the reason you waddled your troll ass here.
Is that where Pedo Fatfuck came from?
Okay, how was Aubrey Huff being an asshole? Or Stanford epidemiologist Dr. Jay Battacharya, or the CDC's Dr. Martin Kulldorff? or Ontario MPP Randy Hillier? or Michael Flynn? or Greg Locke? or Raúl Castro? or Emerald Robinson? or David Icke?...
I could go on for hours.
The fact of the matter is that you know that every single one of those bans were ideological censorship at the behest of the administration, and yet here you are, trying to run cover for it.
This is why I call you a Nazi without a hint of hyperbole, Jeff.
I’ve always thought that Raul Castro is an asshole. But why do I get the feeling we’re not talking about the same person?
I got banned for cut/pasting our official covid data to our governor's twitter. If that puts me in the 'asshole who needs to be banned' category, nobody is safe.
why are you wasting time trying to corner him?... he'll be like a cornered rat - jump over, squeeze by , bite to escape the rules of truth and evidence. He is a gaslighter with no conscience and you already know he is not bound by anyone elses rules of logic, integrity, or truth.
If its for the sake of tutoring others to know the proper counter to lies .. well its easier to just stamp label "Gaslighter" similar to TROLL ACCOUNT to warn people to talk anything he says with proper caution. Much like people do here with the reminder of a certain someone posting links to child porn.
When noone is engaging someone who refuses to accept proper rules of argument maybe the isolation will force him to come back to the norm... especially if he's not driving more posts. Most of the threads of people trying to pin him down are waaaay overlong and pointless - AND wrt the subject at hand - not informative.
I don’t call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.
A lot of commenters here may well be disappointed when they find out that Twitter re-bans the same people all over again. After all, at the end of the day, it will be Twitter's advertisers, who ultimately pay the bills, who determine how much assholish behavior is allowed on the site.
You may be disappointed when corporate-fascism doesn’t get its way.
It's possible. You leftists prefer to only have your assholish behavior on the site and are pretty good at outraging advertisers enough to make sure that's all that's allowed.
I remember you as being someone who could have a mature conversation, but I guess it’s more fun to join the Mean Girls clique. Muting…
I’m just tired of dishonesty by commenters. And you keep doing it. It’s fine to have a political leaning. I’m center right. I have a bias to the right. But understanding my bias is a good thing as it allows me to have mature conversations taking into account introspection.
What I’m sick of is people who pretend not to be biased in the direction they are clearly biased in. You are clearly biased to the left. Doesn’t mean you are a progressive or a Democrat, but it does mean you are more critical of the right than you are the left.
And there is truly nothing wrong with that. The problem comes when you try to pretend otherwise. Now, maybe a lot of your critique of the right is based on a contrarian response to many of the posters here. That’s something I can totally understand.
But not realizing you are doing it and, worse, claiming that you don’t do it is what is the most disingenuous.
^THIS!!^
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Oh no, IS doesn’t agree with you on every single thing and calls out bullshit when he sees it, and we all know you can’t stand that.
You don’t have mature conversations. You’re a deceitful, disingenuous, ignorant Marxist shitweasel.
Like how leftists got outraged yesterday when one of them got suspended for calling for violence against the GOP?
also informative:
Just the possibility of anyone questioning the tranny propaganda is considered "violence" by these people, and they threaten that any such questioning = "YOU WANT TRANS PEOPLE DEAD!" = hate speech.
But they seem very comfortable with, and are very confused by bans for, calling for conservative death-threats, bombings of conservative functions, etc.
The 1A was designed to have double standards built in right?
Hey, why even have government if you can't legally fuck with your enemies?
How about that guy that got banned, who wasn't 'being an asshole' for the crime of *NOT* violating TOS but saying wrong-talk that the gov and FBI didnt approve of?
Do you think its OK to ban conservatives or even just people that disagree with official gov talking points, while they arent being assholes or violating TOS? Because that is absolutely what was happening.
Pedo Jeffy, Dee, and the rest of the commie critters never have a problem with silencing their enemies. Which happens to be all Americans.
Pedo Jeffy is totally neutral.
Twitter didn't ban the chief goatfucker from Iran, and they didn't ban the antifa mob from using twitter to coordinate rioting. You're a liar and an idiot.
-jcr
I love how the leftist go-to is always to claim conspiracy theory or that someone is just crazy whenever something that goes against leftist positioning is pointed out. It's so cliche anymore.
I wouldn't know. I'm not a leftist. I'm just really familiar with comments made by right-wing commenters here.
Cite?
I know you claim you are not a leftist. But it's so hard to believe when all you do is defend then left (even with the most absurd positioning at times) and attack the right constantly.
Even one example of my defending the left please.
You have got to be kidding me. If you won't take honest positions, then what is the point of discussion.
You are the one who cannot come up with even one example of my defending the left. Go ahead. I'm waiting...
Yup, I've had discussions with you where you were. Sorry I didn't save them to fulfill your tired "cite" demands. But it's obvious that you do. Just because you play ignorant and pretend otherwise doesn't change that fact.
If you want to be taken seriously when you claim things, then you have to be intellectually honest. Otherwise, it just falls on deaf ears.
Mike Liarson is a squawking bird named Dee and should be treated as such.
"Yup, I’ve had discussions with you where you were."
No, you have not. Because I have never defended the left. There are no examples for you to find.
And yet, Jesse provides the examples you need below and you just pretend that didn't actually happen. Well done!
He even still pretends he wasn't White Knight.
Let’s see…
Defense of J6. Pushing trump russia conspiracies as legitimate. Covid shutdowns and vaccinations. Being fine with j6 prosecutions. Defense of soros DAs. Constant attacking of the right but not the left. Pushing j6 rioters killed cops weeks after even cnn retracted claims. Defense of BLM. Being against self defense with Rittenhouse with lies about crossing state lines, defending gender affirming surgeries and drugs, defending CRT…
What do you want to admit to Mike?
He will sea lion that shit like Pedo Jeffy, then eventually disappear and pretend none of this ever happened.
But I'll give a serious answer why damikesc' comment is full of beans. The reason Reason never posted instructions on how to join Mastodon was that there were no prognostications that Twitter would blow up soon, therefore there was no journa.host on Mastodon, therefore ENB had no journa.host account to promote.
And, no, I don't buy into all the talk about Twitter blowing up soon. It might, but I recognize that a lot of it is wishful thinking from butthurt progressives who liked Twitter the way it was.
Journa.host already existed. Twitter is not blowing up.
Your reasoning is not only sophomoric but wrong.
Here’s Dee accidentally admitting that ENB is a butthurt progressive.
But aren't you actually missing the point of his comment. It's not the narrow concept of teaching people to use Mastodon, it's the greater aspect that only when leftists are impacted does Reason write an article about it. Whereas, the constant banning and throttling of conservatives on Twitter never elicited a response from Reason other than to claim "private company can do what it wants."
a) I just gave an alternative and credible explanation of why ENB (not "Reason", but ENB) chose to post Mastodon instructions now.
b) It is not true that Reason has never said anything about banning and throttling of conservatives on Twitter. That claim is pure conservative victimhood narrative.
Cite?
OK, here's an example:
https://reason.com/2022/10/05/elon-musk-agrees-to-buy-twitter-mainstream-media-censorship/
Robby Soave's words: "What scares [alarmist media figures] so much about Musk is simply that he has criticized Twitter's past efforts to moderate content, which in his view too frequently resulted in the muzzling of legitimate political speech. The most infamous example, of course, was Twitter's treatment of the New York Post's Hunter Biden story, which even Twitter's former CEO, Jack Dorsey, has admitted was a mistake."
Took about one minute to find an example. Here's Reasons' archive of articles about Twitter:
https://reason.com/tag/twitter/
Did you think I didn't anticipate that you would ask for a cite, thinking you had some clever "gotcha"? Did you think I wouldn't provide a cite when asked? I always do provide a cite when asked (if I see the request).
You’re typically pretty easy to ‘get’ as you lie and distort things daily.
Here's another article which cannot be construed as supporting liberal or progressive talking points on Twitter:
https://reason.com/2022/09/14/how-government-officials-bully-social-media-companies-into-censorship/
https://reason.com/2022/07/29/big-techs-ban-on-alex-jones-fans-the-flames-of-his-conspiracy-theories/
A whole article about bans on Alex Jones.
Who am I kidding, even though I've provided several cites, certain commenters here will be back again making claims about Reason's bias.
Two articles critical about the banning of speech. The rest don't convey what you think they do. Well done.
Thanks for proving my point. A libertarian mag and you find two articles critical of Twitter's banning of people. LOL!
Here is reason defending learn to code bans.
https://reason.com/2019/03/11/learn-to-code-twitter-harassment-ross/
Defending them banning milo.
https://reason.com/2016/07/20/twitter-bans-milo-yiannopoulos-initiate/
What you dont see in these two examples is a defense of discourse.
Reason admitting shadow bans are one direction.
https://reason.com/2018/07/25/twitter-shadow-bans-affect-prominent-con/
"But aren’t you actually missing the point of his comment."
This is Liarson's go to move along with defending progressives at all cost.
well, until its proven over and over that it absolutely is happening.
Then they just run away and change the topic, pretending they didnt dig in forever that it wasnt happening
amnesty bitches.
this is going to be hilarious
Mike learned a new word!
You'll also notice that Reason isn't offended with Biden suggest the Feds might investigate Elon Musk. They're 100% okay with the Democrats using the Fed government to attack their political opponents. Funny that Reason Editors align so closely with progressives. Hmmm.
Reporting the news= owning the libs.
Reason is very much ok with a lot of shitty leftist authoritarian actions. Their silence over the J6 detainees is deafening.
Twitter has more traffic than ever now. Not imploding.
That's a safe bet once the butt-hurt start claiming otherwise.
Yeah. I assume this article was written a few days ago and released today as filler for the site since no one wants to work the day after Thanksgiving. It looks like Musk's Twitter is over this rough spot and at this point I don’t think Twitter is going anywhere.
It's the media's take on the "implosion," "destruction," "caving," and so forth of Twitter that has made it abundantly clear to me that they: (1) have no idea how businesses are run; and (2) have very little care for anything other than narrative pushing.
Going to reply similarly. I've noticed no changes, except for some comics coming back.
I have found a useful substitute for Twitter is to shut the fuck up.
Well said. Sadly, political-journos cannot keep their mouths shut. Gotta tell the plebs how to think.
And that works best if the plebs have to keep THEIR mouths shut.
So ending a more or less fascist conspiracy between the feds and the "private" company is called "imploding"?
A libertarian site would call it responsible.
Worst ever threat to democracy, right?
Free uncensored speech is just the worst.
Words and ideas are dangerous.
I am now triggered. My soul is marred from your comments.
https://news.yahoo.com/waves-trauma-lead-burnout-heres-100049754.html
If the plebs don't have their blue check marked betters telling them the approved narrative/truth, they might believe unapproved misinformation. We NEED Reason Editors and the MSM to keep us properly informed.
Yes, I am sure a platform that allows their users to be even more insular than before will provide nothing but positive effects, especially with the current state of "journalism."
"Yes, I am sure a platform that allows their users to be even more insular "
I think you can be as insular as you want to be. Which is a plus, in my books. Moderation is down to the user and owner of the server, which can be tedious and time consuming, but also a plus if you don't trust Elon Musk to do (or not do) your moderation for you.
Open source and decentralized often means more control but demands more time and attention than proprietary software. Linux OS is also like that. I use Arch, by the way, and it took weeks for me to do my first successful install, though the effort was never high priority.
If you need journalists to lead you out of your Twitter bubble, you might be a socially-insulated, narcissistic sociopath.
"you might be a socially-insulated, narcissistic sociopath."
On the bright side, you might not.
Coincidentally, that accurately describes most hardcore leftists.
“you might be a socially-insulated, narcissistic sociopath.”
Those are called modern journalists. So, there is a blind-leading-the-blind sort of situation going on here.
Journalists have proven that by and large they are not to be trusted.
Been trying out Mastodon for a week or so.
It’s a bit boring. The raw Fediverse feed is full of people with nothing more interesting to say than posting their Wordle score or anime pictures. And it is not filtered by language so only about half the Fediverse feed is in English.
A lot of the servers that are promoted by the Mastodon software authors have a progressive echo chamber going. There are other clusters of servers that are frighteningly right wing. And Japanese people also have their own cluster of servers who mostly talk to each tiger.
There are a few somewhat famous Twitter refugees talking about nothing more than how many Mastodon followers they have, how Twitter is supposedly going to die any day now, and how Mastodon is supposedly so much more friendly and less hellish than Twitter.
I may sign on to Mastodon some day, but I'm not in any hurry. I still have a Twitter account but haven't used it in the past decade.
Out of curiosity, are the Libertarian servers filled with Trump fanboys as this board is? How are the tech news servers? Found anything else that you think is worth the time and effort of following?
"And Japanese people also have their own cluster of servers who mostly talk to each tiger."
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Cite on trump fan boys? Or so you mean those that don’t have TDS and feel an incessant need to solely trash him?
Leftists like Mike and shrike talk about Trump more than any other poster here.
" Or so you mean those that don’t have TDS and feel an incessant need to solely trash him?"
Yes, exactly those. Like yourself. They're a little too authoritarian for my taste. Are the Mastodon Libertarian servers filled with people who don't have TDS? I'm curious but not quite enough to install new software and learn how to use it.
How is Jesse authoritarian? I've seen far more authoritarian apologetics come from you than from him.
I'm not. In fact I'm against it from all angles from large federal states to pure idealism which also leads to authoritarianism.
But true man isnt someone one would consider intelligent.
I've been consistent in federalist ideals that allow groups of people to form their own beliefs and systems. That's why im so for state over federal power.
I think the current power structure of government is upside down. More power should be at the community level. Same with taxation.
But idiots like true man believe if you're against a global government youre authoritarian.
In fact I’m against it from all angles
So you've come around on open borders? Good for you! Welcome!
How about authoritarianism justified on the basis of national sovereignty? Are you opposed to that too now? Congratulations! You're a globalist too now!
And I take it to mean that since you are opposed to authoritarianism "from all angles" that you are opposed to a repressive suffocating conservative culture as well, right? So if parents want to take their kids to drag queen shows, they should have the full liberty to do so, right? And if parents want their kids to learn about LGBTQ issues in elementary school, they should have the full liberty to do so, right? Right?
Wait, are you advocating for anarchy here?
Why don't you ask Jesse if he is advocating for anarchy when he claims to be opposed to authoritarianism "from all angles".
Where did I advocate anarchy? Nothing in my statement is anarchist you ignorant shit.
Because Jesse's comment wasn't advocating for anarchy. I've never seen him argue for anarchy.
It's actually your response to counter Jesse's that appears to be trying to rebut Jesse based on Jesse not advocating for anarchy.
Keep going Jeffy, this is going great for you.
Because Jesse’s comment wasn’t advocating for anarchy.
So in your view, opposing authoritarianism "from all angles" is not anarchism. Okay then. Perhaps you could describe the type of government that in your view is not authoritarian in nature.
I don't use out-of-context, over-literalization of people's words they use.
I too oppose authoritarianism from all angles but also accept the need for governance. These aren't mutually exclusive and reading the entirety of Jesse's position shows this understanding on his part.
Problem is you're just being intellectually dishonest to be contrarian in this situation rather than being understanding.
Sorry, Jesse doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. He said he opposes authoritarianism "from all angles" and he needs to either defend that statement literally or modify it to describe what he actually believes. He won't do either because he will never admit weakness in my presence.
I too oppose authoritarianism from all angles but also accept the need for governance.
All government is authoritarian in nature.
If you were to say "I support minimal authoritarianism in the form of a minarchist government to protect basic rights" then I would be totally 100% in favor of that.
No, I get it. You use out-of-context, over-literalization to attack someone you don't like.
It's actually quite common.
Sorry Jeff, YOU don’t get the benefit of the doubt.
Four times in this very thread you’ve lied about what Jesse has said. It’s like you somehow imagine that the rest of us can’t read Jesse’s posts and have to rely solely on your deliberate misrepresentations. I can’t imagine who you think that you’re tricking.
Four times in this very thread you’ve lied about what Jesse has said.
No, I quoted exactly what he said. I haven't lied about anything.
What I haven't done is give him the benefit of the doubt. Because he doesn't deserve it.
He said he is against authoritarianism "from all angles". That is a direct quote. That is also a lie.
Anyone who has spent more than 10 minutes here understands that you are Jesse's lapdog white knight poodle. So you are going to defend whatever he does.
I can’t imagine who you think that you’re tricking.
I have quoted his words directly. Who do you think I am "tricking" by quoting him directly?
Hey fatfuck, why do you keep lying about Jesse?
How is being for local government being for open borders your retarded fuck? Arizona wants to shut down the illegal immigration due to costs abd externalities but can not due to feds. Are you truly this retarded?
I mean I literally advocate for power near the people. How dishonest are you? Are all globalist as big of liars as you?
So you are in favor of local authoritarianism then.
That is different than being against authoritarianism "from all angles".
Perhaps you would care to amend your original statement?
Jesse: "I literally advocate for power near the people.
Jeff: "So you are in favor of local authoritarianism then."
This is typical chemjeff modus operandi folks. He can't argue against what Jesse actually said, so he has to redefine it (lie) into something he can attack.
Everything about this clown is bad faith.
I'm not an anarchist jeff. Are you admitting yourr failure above? I know government has to exist in some form you dumb fuck. I just want it very limited. I'm not calling for city authoritarianism you dishonest shit.
So, everyone is in favor of some kind of "authoritarianism". At the national level, the local level, or the individual level. Therefore, you can't be against authoritarianism. We are all authoritarians. The word has lost its meaning.
I literally advocate for power near the people.
You advocate for local majorities imposing local authoritarianism.
Again I ask. Are you critiquing Jesse for not advocating for anarchy?
Yeah, power should be with far away totalitarians like you.
Jeff's new dishonest argument is now anyform of government is authoritarian. And he called me an anarchist. Lol. How dumb are you jeff?
anyform of government is authoritarian.
Well, yes it is, to varying degrees.
If you think I'm wrong, please describe a type of government that you think is not authoritarian.
And of course I know you are not an anarchist. You are instead lying when you claim to oppose authoritarianism "from all angles". You favor all sorts of authoritarian policies and politicians, Trump simply being the most visible one. Did you vote for Kari Lake? I bet you did. She proposed to send the Arizona military to the border with Mexico to "repel the invasion". Do you think that is just a wee bit authoritarian?
Man, your struggle to "gotcha" Jesse is starting to come off as desperate.
He's lying. He wants to be able to strike a pose of "opposing authoritarianism" when what he really means is opposing *centralized* authoritarianism. He is absolutely in favor of local authoritarianism, given his support of the Arizona state government deporting all those dirty illegals.
Yes, you didn't need to repeat the grasping that you are doing.
This is hilarious. Thanks Lying Jeffy, gave me something funny to read while I reheat Thanksgiving leftovers.
Jeffy, why are you lying.
How is opposition to "open borders" a form of authoritarianism, chemjeff? Were the Martha's Vineyard folks being authoritarian when they turned aside migrants? You might call our immigration policy broken or unreasonable, but that's that authoritarianism.
It's just so nauseating how intentionally obtuse you are. You see as yourself as some brave lone voice against red tribalism and refuse to be in ANY situation where the opposition has a point.
I already saw you here posting your delusion that Twitter's TOS was perfectly consistent and the outrage was right wing overreaction. What is the depth of your intellectual dishonesty to fool yourself this much? Twitter was ON THE SPOT to punish someone like Libsoftiktok for simply posting publicly available videos, but they would be slow to react to pedo antifa accounts and Iranian bluechecks calling for violence. Leaked internal emails showed old twitter moderation team under the left wing hysteria that Libsoftiktok would inspire waves of violence.
The Hunter Laptop revelation is a old story by now. Elon says he'll reveal internal discussions of the content moderation team on banning that story. Their labeling lab leak theory as essentially fake news was one of the catalysts behind Musk purchasing the company. Look at all the "stay woke" tshirts Elon found in the closet, you think these people were especially interested in fair moderation, much less free speech?
"How is Jesse authoritarian? "
Same way as you are. Looking to charismatic authority figures to solve your problems: MAGA! Lock her up! Build that wall! This kind of grovelling obsequiousness to office, wealth and celebrity rubs me completely the wrong way.
None of that applies to either of us, you dishonest piece of shit. I’m not even American, so it’s damn hard to be Maga.
Now tell us all about the Lightbringer, and tingles up the leg, and how White House censorship is “muh private company”, and why
Horst WesselBrian Sicknick got a state funeral, and how J6 was an insurrection, and why the politicization of the FBI and DOJ is a good thing, and social credit scores, and how prime time kangaroo courts aren’t fascist, and why the military needed to be purged, and why parents are terrorists, ad nauseam."I’m not even American, so it’s damn hard to be Maga. "
MAGA infects all those who don't suffer TDS. It respects no borders.
"Now tell us all about the Lightbringer, and tingles up the leg, and how White House censorship is “muh private company”, and why Horst Wessel Brian Sicknick got a state funeral, and how J6 was an insurrection, and why the politicization of the FBI and DOJ is a good thing, and social credit scores, and how prime time kangaroo courts aren’t fascist, and why the military needed to be purged, and why parents are terrorists, ad nauseam."
I'd much rather talk about tranny toilets, but you left it conspicuously absent from your laundry list of Trumpist whining points.
If you consider those things "Trumpist whining points" then you're a fascist. No liberal let alone libertarian could handwave that incipient authoritarianism away.
No hyperbole, but an actual honest-to-goodness fascist a la the Falangists or Blackshirts.
"No liberal let alone libertarian could handwave that incipient authoritarianism away."
And no one but an authoritarian embraced it as you did during the Trump years.
"then you’re a fascist"
If I'm a fascist, I'm a bored fascist. For the love of god, find something new to whine about.
Way to deflect, you shitweasel.
Youre struggling today buddy.
How am I authoritarian?
How am I authoritarian?
You oppose freedom of association.
How does he oppose freedom of association, Jeff?
You really just make it all up as you go along.
You oppose it as well.
Are you in favor of open borders?
Open borders = freedom of association? That's a new one.
Double down Jeffy.
I'm in favor of open, restrictionless, legal immigration.
But that's not what slaveholding Democrats like you want, Jeff. They can't make their Guatemalan nanny work round the clock for magic beans if they're legal. They can't make windfall profits on your berry farm or factory if they have to pay minimum wage. They can't save big $$$ on lawn and pool care hiring people who have to be licensed and regulated.
Open borders = freedom of association? That’s a new one.
It is not new at all. Open borders means that anyone on either side of the border is free to associate with whom they please on either side.
An employment contract is freedom of association. A lease is freedom of association. A Mexican buying an American product, or an American buying a Mexican product, is freedom of association. What did you think it was?
I’m in favor of open, restrictionless, legal immigration.
That is also what I favor.
But that’s not what slaveholding Democrats like you want, Jeff.
That is not what the caricatures in your head want, that is true.
I daresay that the vast majority of people in both of our countries want migrants to be treated fairly and justly. That is certainly what I want. If that is what you want, then let's work to make it happen.
No functioning country has open borders you miserable pile of blubber. Stop acting like it’s a thing. It’s not.
"How am I authoritarian?"
You are authoritarian of the rightist sort. You admire and praise leaders like Trump, Orban, Bolsaro and the like. Perhaps Putin too, but not Xi. I'm sure some would call you fascist, but not me. Right wing nationalist is what I would say, more illuminating, less inflammatory.
“You admire and praise leaders”
That’s an interesting position you’ve exposed.
"You are authoritarian of the rightist sort. You admire and praise leaders like Trump, Orban, Bolsaro and the like."
I've never seen Jesse praise Orban and Bolsaro, and neither have you, you lying fuck.
Also, explain why Trump, Orban and Bolsaro are "authoritarian". What have they done that's authoritarian, you parroting NPC?
"What have they done that’s authoritarian"
It's not what they do that make them authoritarian, it's what they think.
"I’ve never seen Jesse praise Orban and Bolsaro"
Jesse's a sneaky bastard. He only does it at night.
"Looking to charismatic authority figures ...grovelling obsequiousness to office, wealth and celebrity rubs me completely the wrong way."
You guys are always making these claims, but refuse to provide examples of it.
Meanwhile you ignore the very real cults of personality surrounding AOC and the squad, Bernie Sanders, Obama and Hillary on your side. I honestly can't take people like you seriously.
Not a cult.
https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/GettyImages-trump-cult-of-personality-484797712.jpg?resize=1000,691&quality=90
"Thank You Lord Jesus for President Trump"
Thanking Jesus for something is a cult? I don’t think you actually know what the word “cult” means.
Then again actual definitions don’t matter when lefties are slandering people.
How the fuck is that a cult?
Now this is a cult: Sculpture of Obama as Jesus causes stir
Nope, not a cult.
Not a cult.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fworld%2F2022%2F08%2F19%2Ftrump-cult-of-personality-democracy-erosion-united-states%2F&psig=AOvVaw04tOlQ3IUjvXpGUIy_LhzT&ust=1669501832005000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBEQ3YkBahcKEwiIs8KOscr7AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBA
5 bare-chested guys with TRUMP painted on their chests
Are sports fans who paint themselves for a game in a cult?
Poor Lying Jeffy. He tries so hard, but he’s actually quite stupid, and flails about in so many silly ways.
He gets distracted by his industrial sized tub of Ben & Jerry’s. Probably elbows deep in it right now.
Hillary fanatics doing the same exact thing: Hot for Hillary! Rally goers go shirtless in front of the former secretary to show their support
Katie Perry goes nude for Hillary
They have t-shirts on.
Nope, not a cult.
Here’s another one from a subnormal leftist idiot celebrity……
https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2836941/pete-davidson-tattoo-kanye-clinton/
Not a cult.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/inside-the-cult-of-trump-his-rallies-are-church-and-he-is-the-gospel
To attend a Trump rally is to engage directly in the ecstasy of knowing what the great man knows, divinity disguised as earthly provocation. Jones tells me about Jesse Lee Peterson, a right-wing pastor and talk show host who calls Trump “the Great White Hope.” He doubles over and slaps his knee, signaling to me that it’s another joke. “He’s black!” says Jones, meaning Jesse Lee Peterson. “I love that dude,” he says. He considers Peterson, like the White Hope himself, awesomely witty. Jones straightens up. “But it’s true!” he adds. Which is how racism works at a Trump rally, just like the president’s own trolling—signal, disavowal, repeat; the ugly words followed by the claim that it was just a joke followed by a repetition of the ugly words. Joking! Not joking. Play it again, until the ironic becomes the real.
I’ll just take your word that Vanity Fair embarked on an unbiased search for truth, but I’m not reading this.
Totally a cult:
EDITORIAL: Obama greater than Jesus
The U.S. president - the practical saviour of our times
Totally a cult:
Barack Obama Depicted As Jesus: 'The Truth' Painting
Not a cult.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/inside-the-cult-of-trump-his-rallies-are-church-and-he-is-the-gospel
In Trump’s case, divine backing is more about smiting than healing. When Rep. Elijah Cummings died last October shortly after sparring with Trump about Baltimore, Peterson declared on his radio show, “He dead”—like Trump enemies John McCain and Charles Krauthammer, Peterson noted. “That’s what happens when you mess with the Great White Hope. Don’t mess with God’s children.”
Jones only recently became one of those children. “I’ve been on the side of evolution my whole life,” he confesses. Not so much the science end, he wanted me to understand. His had been the partying wing of agnosticism. Then his fiancé persuaded him to start attending a fundamentalist church, not long before Trump was elected, and the veil was lifted. For instance, he says, now he can see the “gay agenda” of the Democrats. “Actually, they’re pedophiles.”
Ohh! More Vanity Fair!
Totally a cult:
Newsweek Hails Obama as Messianic ‘Second Coming’
Are you seeing the difference, Jeff? People praying for Trump versus people calling Obama the Messiah?
Through a season of Trump rallies across the country, before the global pandemic forced the president to retreat for a while from the nation’s arenas, I spoke with dozens of Trump supporters who believe that the Democratic establishment primarily serves as a cover for child sex trafficking. Some were familiar with “QAnon”—the name claimed by believers in a host of conspiracy theories centered around an alleged “deep state” coup against Trump and his supposedly ingenious countermeasures, referred to as the coming “Storm,” or “Great Awakening”—but most were not. It was, they told me, simply known. “Perverts and murderers,” said a woman in Bossier City. One man, a Venezuelan immigrant, explained that many socialists are literal cannibals. There were the Clintons, of course, but a youth pastor promised me that Trump knew the names of all the guilty parties and was preparing their just deserts. The president himself, in speech after speech, intimates that Judgment Day is coming. In Hershey, Pennsylvania, he spoke of “illegals,” hacking and raping and bludgeoning, “relentlessly beating a wonderful, beautiful high school teenager to death with a baseball bat and chopping the body apart with a machete.” And that, he added, was only what he could reveal. There was more, he said, much, much more. Believe me.
Such is the intimacy of Trumpism: innuendo and intimation, the wink and the revelation. Jones gets it. To demonstrate, he pops up his Trump mask, bends over, and begins sniffing the wet blacktop like a hound. “Creepy Joe!” cries another supporter. Jones bounces up and beams. It’s his imitation of Joe Biden, on the trail of young boys to molest. Biden as child sniffer is a popular right-wing meme, but it’s not really Biden himself who matters. They know Joe is one among many. “Demons,” says Jones, speaking of the Democratic Party leadership in general. “Not even human.” Which is why it will take the Great White Hope, chosen by God, to confront them. They’re too powerful for the likes of ordinary men such as Jones. He’d tried.
"QAnon" is a 4chan troll the WaPo and NYT use to scare wine moms. Anyone wearing a QAnon t-shirt at an event practically glows.
Even you know that.
Lying Jeffy knows what he’s told to know in the am email.
"Meanwhile you ignore the very real cults of personality surrounding AOC and the squad, Bernie Sanders, Obama and Hillary on your side. I honestly can’t take people like you seriously."
Successful politicians are popular, they have the ability to work a room. Big surprise. And Hillary, seriously? Hillary and Biden too didn't reach the heights they reached or failed to reach by being the object of personality cults. They got to where they got to because it was their turn. There was a thing here a while back about the Gerontocracy. Look it up for details.
Successful politicians are popular, they have the ability to work a room.
Which is what Trump does, but you're pretending it's a cult. You know what hasn't happened with Trump? All the messianic Jesus comparisons Obama got.
"Which is what Trump does, but you’re pretending it’s a cult."
I never called the followers of Trump or Orban et al a cult. It's a prejudicial expression not unlike fascist. I don't engage in name calling unless it's pointing out foolishness, mulishness, or toolishness.
"All the messianic Jesus comparisons Obama got."
It's all hype. Don't fall for it. All this talk about Obama being a great orator. What a laugh. Compared to other black politicians, he was milquetoast and mediocre. Listen to speeches of Malcolm X, ML King, Fred Hampton or any of the other Panthers.
With Trump, and Obama before him, it was all about the man. Not ideas, policies or principles. The followers loved him.
Cult of personality. Reagan and Kennedy had it. Bush and Carter did not.
It’s not a difficult concept.
I love it. Just read the responses to my posts. They aren't disputing that there is a Trump cult out there. They just post whataboutisms about some Obama cult or some Hillary cult.
They know that there is a Trump cult out there, it makes their tribe look bad, so all they can do is deflect. It is sad really. But that is what happens when you have people like ML who are only interested in defending their team rather than standing on principle.
The point is that for whatever cultism might exist related to Trump, it’s orders of magnitude more pervasive and intense for leftists. People mostly like Trump because he actually does something to stand up to the swamp and leftists with bullshit beliefs like you.
Is that clear enough, you fat groomer faggot?
So you actually admit trump has never done a single good thing from your comment and claim no bias. You admit that if you don't spend every second trashing him you're a cultist, but claim no bias.
Good work dummy.
Also cite me being a cultist.
"So you actually admit trump has never done a single good thing from your comment"
I thought his overture to North Korea was a positive, and had positive effects on inter-Korean relations, too. He resisted more experienced foreign policy wonks like Bolton when it came to escalating conflict in the middle east. Israelis I know were quite happy with the opening with the gulf states. He might have achieved more positive results while in office had he been more of a politician and less of a showman.
"but claim no bias. "
I never claimed to have no bias. In fact I all but admitted I suffered from TDS and disdained those without it. Anyone who claims to have no bias is almost certainly deluding themselves.
You literally just contradicted your prior statement. That he has to be solely trashed. So youre a trump cultist by your own standards.
"You literally just contradicted your prior statement."
Because while I suffer from TDS, there are brief times when I'm lucid and restored to Trump loving normalcy. Kind of like Alzheimer's that way.
All I've figured out so far is that the Mastodon software author and a lot of the core developers seem to have progressive, anti-capitalist politics. So, on the official Mastodon site the promoted servers are progressive-leaning. They are also slammed with new users, so some of them are rejecting new sign-ups and also not handling traffic well.
I got a glimpse that there seems to be a far-right clusters of servers that largely talk among themselves.
And I read about, but don' t know where to look, that Japanese people tend to have their own cluster of servers. Part of it is the language difference, but the article hinted that they may have trouble in other parts of the "Fediverse" because they don't have politically-correct views on LGBTQ+ issues.
“All I’ve figured out so far is that the Mastodon software author and a lot of the core developers seem to have progressive, anti-capitalist politics. ”
Mastodon is FOSS (free open source software) so it’s pretty much a given. The closest thing to an out and out true blue communist you’ll find in America is Richard Stallman, (the guy who wrote EMACS) perhaps the seminal figure in the movement.
The Right tend to gravitate to charismatic figures of authority like Musk. It’s evident here in these comments.
The closest thing to an out and out true blue communist you’ll find in America is Richard Stallman, (the guy who wrote EMACS) perhaps the seminal figure in the movement.
Did commies write Eclipse too?
They can have it.
"Did commies write Eclipse too?"
If they did I hope they did it during office hours on time stolen from the man.
Free as in beer, as they say. But much FOSS is created on the company's unwitting dime. That's the rumor I heard.
Much FOSS is created on the company's witting dime.
"The Right tend to gravitate to charismatic figures of authority like Musk. It’s evident here in these comments."
HAHAHAHAHAHH! Sure, just ignore everything before Musk bought Twitter and claim the RIGHT gravitated to him.
Many here are praising Musk. Apparently he's going to save free speech. He will allow us to say what we want to say.
I have only found one libertarian-leaning server, and it seems to be dominated by users who are to the right of Trump. Like almost everyone on Mastodon, none of them have any followers -- there's a lot of shouting into the wilderness with noone listening on Mastodon.
Daily reminder, mike/sarc/jeff can call anyone they want far right but don't you dare call them a leftist.
Daily reminder,
mike/sarc/jeff can call anyone they want far right but don’t you dare call them a leftistI am an ass.There. Fixed that for ya.
We know you are.
Let me guess. You're rubber and I'm glue?
No, your "fix" is literally you calling yourself an ass. Hilarious self own.
“posting their Wordle score”
Thanks for the reminder.
Wordle 524 3/6
Edit: The squares didn't look right. I swear I tried this before with no issues. Hmm.
Do you get paid to advertise wordle?
I also like how the left is just an echo chamber but the right is frightening. Good work. Totally not biased.
… frighteningly right wing
Rolling my eyes so hard.
Your sense of persecution is astounding.
Gotta love ENB. She's tips her hand easily enough, but then she is offended when people question whether she's an actual Libertarian or just a run of the mill progressive.
Noticing things like this is "frighteningly right wing"
To be fair, you aren't supposed to notice any incongruencies with anything on the left, especially if you're a leftist yourself.
Mastodon and the other fediverse tools are the early stages of what can happen when proprietary platforms (web 2) turn back into protocols (web 1).
Only question is whether those independent servers/instances turn into true communities that just happen to be online. The ones that do could solve the problem of verifying identity. Maybe even reinforced with some blockchain so that identity is owned by you .
Otherwise servers and instances can just remain anonymous puddles of bat piss like the platforms revert to and reinforce
You're not allowed to have a community unless it's for people with government approved ideas.
Twitter had a lot of communities - the the government pressured them to shut those people out.
And the people who worked to implement that shutting out are the ones moving to Mastodon - so I don't really see a 'community' based on people shutting out anyone who thinks differently arising.
Rather, I see them fragmenting into ever smaller groups as they constantly seek to reinforce group membership through performative actions and fear of the outgroup.
Which is, literally, what the 'fascists' ( ie, totalitarian collectivists) they claim they are fighting are claimed to be doing.
"Rather, I see them fragmenting into ever smaller groups "
Isn't that a benefit?
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed, citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
- Margaret Mead
They can also fake scientific evidence when reality is too scary.
They won't fragment into smaller groups. The instances will max out at some number of people on a single instance. It won't be Dunbar's number (150) but the process will be similar because that is how the human brain is hard wired to function.
No. All communities require some sort of rules which distinguish those who belong from those who don't.
Platforms require that those rules be set by the owner of the platform. The costs of administering those rules however rises exponentially with the size of the community. Which is why platform based social media will always become an open sewer.
Jeff. Is jfree now an authoritarian?
The ones that do could solve the problem of verifying identity. Maybe even reinforced with some blockchain so that identity is owned by you .
^Tell me you're retarded without saying that you are retarded.
What 'problem of verifying identity'? You mean the problem of verifying exactly who they are and their authority to take any given action without sacrificing their anonymity? Brilliant! Once you've solved that, you can solve the problem of verifying voters' identity. Then, on to the problem of verifying the actual color of invisible unicorns!
You've just admitted the problem exists you moron. Even better, you've proclaimed that the only solution is for government to verify identity.
“I knew the invisible pink unicorn problem is real because someone said it in a sentence!” – JFree
Edit: Good God are you retarded.
Do you struggle a lot with having your own cake and eating it on the internet too? Or is that more of an personal struggle IRL?
Beside that question Mastodon is facing two other problems:
a) Technically, the software just isn't ready to handle Twitter-like user levels;
b) Financially, the current model where everything is paid for out of the server admin's pocket possibly subsidized by some donations is not going to be able to handle Twitter-like user levels.
Those are precisely the problems of all open-source tools. Don't know whether they WILL be solved but they certainly CAN be solved.
The people who technically develop and administer any particular instance are also the ones who develop the Mastodon implementation and the W3C protocols that it is based on. The reason that W3C protocols withered away is because FB and the platforms ensured they would wither away.
Servers and instances will have to become MUCH deeper implementations of 'online community'. So that ad-based revenues are only the superficial revenue stream that supports that particular association of individuals . Which is also where verifying identity can help - because it can create more of a 'mutual association' rather than a proprietor selling eyeballs.
“Those are precisely the problems of all open-source tools.”
Also, few people find it fun to write documentation without monetary compensation. Big open source projects do manage to get decent documentation, but smaller open source projects — forget it.
Another thing that seems to be prevalant on Mastodon is anti-advertising rhetoric, with no distinction made between old-fashioned general advertising and personalized advertising with data tracking and privacy concerns.
That's because advertising is a function of any particular instance not of Mastodon itself. I suspect that some instances will cooperate to create advertising networks but still that's part of the decentralization
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" but it can’t hurt to check it out as Twitter implodes"
Twitter's demise has been predicted every day since Musk took over.
It's a really slow 'inplosion'.
I don't mind being data mined and spammed as long as it's done slowly.
Enough about Google.
Enough about Google and Mastodon. We should focus on Musk, a wealthy celebrity and a worthy replacement for Trump, who's long past his shelf life.
Trump doesn’t talk about himself as much as you talk about him.
So has Trump’s imminent indictment and conviction. For going on seven years now.
Trump will eventually be indicted, arrested, tried, and convicted . . . posthumously. He will be praised as a great President by the Democratic candidate for that office 42 years from now.
Here's what Elon Musk fails to understand: Much of a corporations' value lies in their workers — their knowledge, skills, and ideas. When he fired half of Twitter’s workforce and drove off even more, he wasn't “cutting costs.” He was actively destroying what he bought.
It's over, people. No more Twitter. Child-sized adult Robert Reich said so.
Yes, musk fails so often, it’s a wonder how he got to be the richest guy on the planet.
"the richest guy on the planet."
On paper. Do you remember Chung Juyung, founder and owner of Hyundai? When he died he was simultaneously South Korea's richest man and most indebted man.
Do you not understand what “net worth” means?
"Do you not understand what “net worth” means?"
I guess not. I was just amused by a man being simultaneously enormously wealthy and enormously in debt. I naively believe wealth and debt cancel each other out.
Only if it is equal value.
You really are dumb.
Net worth = assets minus debt.
Don't you remember when Chung died? The papers were calling him the richest man in Korea even though his debts exceeded his wealth? It was back in 2001 and so I understand if you've forgotten. He was originally from North Korea, stole a cow and escaped to the south, and parlayed the cow into Korea's largest industrial chaebol. (That's Korean for Zaibatsu)
Doesn’t excuse your ignorance on how net worth is calculated. Let me cite you.
I naively believe wealth and debt cancel each other out.
I still cling to my naive beliefs. That's what bias is all about. I offer no excuses. This is my confession.
Carry on, clinger!
Your ignorance is breathtaking to behold. And your stupidity just painful.
The complete lack of business knowledge shown by the media in reporting on Twitter has truly been something to behold.
If journalist understood economics and business, they wouldn't be raving progressives.
If journalists understood anything at all, they wouldn't be journalists.
Robert Reich, who knows so much about running a tech organization lol.
I guess Reich and Musk see corporate value differently. One looks for diversity, inclusion, equity, ESG, progressive "capitalism", and liberal politics. The other looks for productivity.
They should compare balance sheets. That would be entertaining.
Former Labor Secretaty Reich spouting off labor theory of value as some sort of real economic thing is everything you need to know about the "adults" in charge that Reason their DNC buddies idolize.
But if you believe your labor has value, then you obviously subscribe to the LTV! - one of the moron trolls here or maybe on r/libertarianmeme.
Dear god, if anyone close to Elizabeth is reading this, she needs an intervention. She’s embarrassing herself.
She could, i don't know, maybe take a break from social media and try some real journalism. Interview some people, investigate a story behind what people online are saying about it. Would that really be too much to ask from a "professional" journalist?
This is a new pathetic low even for ENB. It's just sad
Social media is more addictive than crack. Change my mind.
No need to change your mind when you'r right.
I think WarGames said it best:
Joshua/WOPR: Greetings, Professor Falken.
Stephen Falken: Hello, Joshua.
Joshua/WOPR: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
It is close. Probably why Mike is on every one of them.
https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2018/dopamine-smartphones-battle-time/
Twitter has improved by at least 100% in the past month.
absolutely, and now Elon claims he's going to let ALL previously canceled accounts back on and start over.
I haven't been checking out Mastodon because I buy into the predictions that Twitter is going to die or because I dislike Elon's Twitter.
I have been checking out Mastodon beause I find the architectural idea interesting. I have thought of developing something like Mastodon myself, but I have to give kudos to Eugen Rochko for actually doing it.
I'd find Mastodon/the "Fediverse" a lot more interesting if it supported payments, micro-payments, block chain, e-commerce. All things that the central figures seem to be opposed to politically. Sigh.
Are you by any chance related to anyone from Glens Falls? Concerning Mastodon, I wonder if block-chain technology would prevent some government snooping.
Not that I know of.
It could certainly prevent cookie snooping.
Don’t mention cookies. You’ll summon Chemjeff.
Literally nobody cares.
Each instance will be the entity that supports all those implementations. Some of those will attract members to that instance. Some will help them engage with others. Some will help them do whatever they need to do with the broader internet. Think of those instances the same way we used to think of Masonic Lodges or an online versions of the Elks or Rotary Club or Toastmasters
Yes, but it looks like it would require a branch of Mastodon to add money-related features because the software authors are against it.
Mastodon is solely a micro blogging implementation. There are other open source tools that can also use those protocols. Some with types of social media (eg Friendica replicates Facebook, Peertube shares videos, etc). One (Drupal) that serves as the foundation for any server to implement various features via module - including payments.
But basically - gotta stop thinking in terms of expanding a platform to make it more proprietary. What is proprietary is the server/instance
No, I get it. I’m not thinking of anything other than possibly branching the Mastodon software to add features that the original authors dislike politically.
"What is proprietary is the server/instance"
It seems from what I gather, not having used or installed it, that to really appreciate Mastodon and use it to its fullest, you have to run your own server. How much more time and money is required to do that? If you don't feel the need or the attraction for proprietorship over your own instance, you might as well stick with Twitter, Facebook or whatever.
No, you don’t really gain that much by running your own server.
It presumably gives you the ability (and responsibility) to moderate, ie edit feeds, greater than ordinary users.
Stop misusing the term 'architectural'.
Okay, I tooted on Mastodon with my new account.
Congratulations.
Have you found any interesting people to follow? I have only managed to find a few.
I just unfollowed a bunch of people that were interesting when they were on Twitter, but all they have been doing on Mastodon is talking about how Mastodon is more welcoming of progressives than Twitter, or how many followers they have, or how awful Twitter is.
I found a bunch of people banning one another for more marginal microaggression violations on the victim pyramid/flowchart. So there is that.
#freespeechaliveandwell
Mikes type of people.
Imagine not getting bored with that.
Imagine having a large sector of academia, corporate and govt positions that not only dont get bored with it, but spend all of their time on it, many of which are paid for with taxpayer dollars.
They arent getting bored with it. Their entire identity is dependent on it.
I'm still experimenting, but I have two followers who actually commented intelligently on my first post. I followed the author of this article but still don't know what happens when you follow someone. So far it just seems to be sitting there.
Want to get on Mastodon (or at least understand what all the hubbub is about)? Here's what you need to know.
Blood Mountain was their best album.
Poor ENB doesn’t feel safe without her censoring overlords at the helm. People are dying, bleat the sheep.
Please take your misinformation to mastodon asap. GTFO.
No, we care about this even less than we care about what's happening on Twitter.
This. From its inception I said twitter was a shallow cesspool with which I had no interest in interacting. The platform became even more garbage over time due to censorious left wing assholes like ENB using and controlling it. I think Musk has plans that will make it a bit better, but the format outright doesn't appeal to me (the same goes for Parler.) This entire article is an illustration of how much of a radical leftist ENB is. She can't tolerate allowing speech from anyone vaguely on the right and felt it necessary to help others migrate to an even more radically left-wing platform than Twitter had become.
I dunno. There is a LOT of Twitter content that is completely apolitical and amusing. @Super70sSports, for example. Not everything is about politics, politics, politics.
^ this
Also illustrates how while it could be an L for musk in the end, there is no possible way this move is an L for society.
- Regardless of what happens, its still just a stupid social media platform, that no one actually has to use, so the stakes are truly low.
- At minimum, it moves back closer to something that actually has more than just the leftist narrative.
- All of the people you would want to be miserable and uncomfortable (the elite journos and lefty headcases) are screaming at the top of their lungs and having a full on tantrum
- Said people are freely tearing off their masks making it clear that anything short of complete control over their online-walled-garden narrative machine is unacceptable. They couldn't be making it any clearer that what they wants is propaganda > free speech.
- If he fucks up and completely annihilates Twitter, it will count as a public service.
Its basically a huge W for everyone that isnt a shitlib, a big L for said shitlibs, and potentially a L for Elon if he loses big money on it
Funny part is, he can afford to lose every single penny he spent on it. Won’t miss any meals.
ENB informs us that Twitter is Imploding and as evidence link's to an article written... by herself. Musk has bought a company that has never shown a profit and has famously censored any information that presents a threat to the ruling elite. Reversing those failures will take time but he's making huge progress. It's frankly appalling that an ostensibly libertarian website is so terrified of free speech that they post hundreds of words trying to recruit customers for the competition. Reason has been justifying censorship on Twitter for years because libertarians apparently can't advocate for free speech if a private company is involved. Twitter is still a private company but when Musk says he wants to end the censorship ENB runs off like a screaming baby. I don't have a Twitter account and do not plan on getting one and I don't care who switches to Mastodon. But Twitter isn't going anywhere as far as I can see.
the only time they can find the 'libertarian angle' (most of the writers here, but really ENB is the worst) is when that goal happens to line up with the DNC party line.
The recent couple of years' articles can be summed up as:
- Here is why what Republicans want is bad and authoritarian
- Here is why Democrats criticizing Republicans is stopping authoritarianism
- Here is why Democrats are right on this freedom issue and Republicans are icky
with the very rare:
- Here is a bad thing Democrats did that was anti-freedom, but Republicans are also bad, and actually might be worse.
Its morphing into another vox, in the skin-suit of a libertarian site. The only good thing about the site is the comments.
So, they don’t suck up to Republicans enough. Got it.
And they run cover for the most authoritarian D actors. They are partisan hacks
Example please.
That’s exactly what Jimbo said.
Eyeroll.
I have a Twitter account and I'm keeping it.
Weird?
Looks to me like the site is up and running.
Which is strange, because who would have thought you could run an internet site with just a bunch of engineers/coders and a tech billionaire, without the whiney entitled woke dead weight?
I really dont know how they can function without the powerful women there. Its a mystery
Said this before: It's too early to say that the site can continue to run at this staffing level. Though as the days go by and it keeps running, this seems more likely.
Initially it continuing to run after Musk locked the doors just meant that nobody had tossed a metaphorical hand grenade over their back as they left. (Or maybe that Musk's tech gurus caught it.)
As time goes on, the chances that it's just running on momentum, and will eventually go down when something breaks and nobody knows how to fix it, get slimmer. In another couple weeks I'll admit they've got it stabilized.
Musk: Exposing Twitter's Internal Discussion Of Hunter Biden Laptop Story "Necessary To Restore Public Trust"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/musk-exposing-twitters-internal-discussion-hunter-biden-laptop-story-necessary-restore
I'm glad Elon is making a light causing the roaches to scramble.
This guy got banned from Twitter. Reason was cool with that.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anti-lockdown-stanford-professor-academic-freedom-dead
A Stanford Professor who challenged the orthodoxy of lockdowns has warned that “academic freedom is dead,” and that all those who have stood up to the regime narrative now face “a deeply hostile work environment.”
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The single most important step that twitter could take to promote free speech is to release all the correspondence between twitter censors and government officials these past 3 years. Expose the government censorship regime, @elonmusk!
They also banned what are considered to be very mainstream health organizations (AHA I believe when they first admitted that myocarditis is a thing).
The message was loud and clear: Even if you have been a good soldier up until now, step one fucking toe out of line and you are done.
Thats the kind of free speech, tolerance, and willingness to debate the left exemplifies. COVID hysteria was the major mask off moment. They were silencing anyone who dared question govt propaganda even when that questioning was completely legit, and proved to be correct.
I just looked up what actually happened. The AHA, which is totally still on Twitter, had one of its posts tagged as possible misinformation.
At the time, some Twitter critics described this tagging as a “block”. And now you are describing it as a “ban”. So, a game of grievance telephone.
Ahh I guess you are correct.
They intervened and put up the big "WARNING: You are about to click on dangerous misinformation" sign on the Tweet. A tweet which contained *correct* information the govt promised us wasn't true, and told us was malicious.
The ban went to folks like Berenson, who Biden's gov goons intervened on directly, pressuring Twitter to ban him.
Whats that term from when govt uses 'private' companies in a 'free' market system to push their agenda/ propaganda? I feel like there is a very relevant term that gets thrown around daily...Ill think of it eventually.
Pick your side correctly, young libertarian
Nah, this old libertarian will continue to have a nuanced view of Twitter.
That nuance includes:
a) Being careful not to conflate warning labels with banning.
b) Acknowledging that the Democrats might have been coercing Twitter management into banning certain accounts, but also that the Twitter management might have been quite sympathetic to Democrats and not need to be coerced at all. And, just like it is Elon Musk's site now, it was Jack's site back then.
c) Often critics of Twitter's bans gloss over assholish behavior that got the accounts banned. After all, Twitter has to please its advertisers at the end of the day.
d) Twitter is not the center of the world. In fact, most Americans don't use it, and those who do aren't necessarily using it to get political news.
That doesn’t really make it better, just less bad.
I wasn't on this site in 2016. Was there a "how to" on moving to Canada?
What? It’s not free?
Cost of applying for immigration to Canada through Express Entry and the PNP. Generally speaking, as an individual applicant, you would need approximately $15,500 CAD to immigrate to Canada. Couples would need around $21,000 CAD while families with children will require between $25,000 to $30,000 CAD.
https://arrivein.com/finance/immigration-101-how-much-does-it-cost-to-immigrate-to-canada/
Just claim refugee status (no whitey).
No, there wasn’t.
Poor marxist twat ENB cannot stand that free speech is once again allowed on Twitter without first being sanitized for wrongthought.
She should get her ass in the kitchen and make a fucking sandwich.
"Twitter implodes"
Journolisming translator *beep*boop*
Twitter is no longer a curated journalist blue check circle jerk
The walls are closing in on Trump… I mean, Twitter.
Hey, at least there the Journalists/Activists can go hang out with their fellow brethren Nazis.
Ha!! I knew the turd burglars, pedos, and lipstick lesbian fugazis wouldn't waste any time following Paul Krugman over to Mastodon! I called this like two weeks ago.
The current problem is that people will gravitate to other users with the same opinions and bias. Mastodon sounds it could exacerbate this kind of thing. Maybe it's just something we have to live with.
"...as Twitter implodes."
For those suffering from TDS, MDS is just an easy addition.
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Dear Reason Magazine,
Can we please get some libertarian writers and editors?
Thank you,
The Libertarian wing of the libertarian movement
"Best I can do are links by other people in the comment section."
Twitter imploding? They are getting millions of new sign ups.
Seems a lot of people like a platform with free speech.
"The over two million new sign-ups per day represent a 66% increase over the same time frame last year, according to figures released by Musk"
I got great news for you, which you may not like, Ms. Editor. Twitter is not imploding. On the contrary, it is blooming, exploding with new users. Try it. You might like it.
Why do we need a replacement for a service that does little but feed a 24/7 rage machine?
The amount of honking this article does makes it feel like Babylon Bee should’ve written it.
In what way is Twitter imploding? The only change is that "progressives" are complaining and some are leaving for the sole reason that Twitter *might* not silence people they disagree with.
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