Come Next Thanksgiving, We Might Be Giving Thanks for Government-Approved, Lab-Grown Turkey
Regulators are beginning to smile on the sci-fi project of creating real meat products without the typical death and environmental destruction.

People concerned about the ethics of eating meat, but still eager to participate in the typical Thanksgiving feast, might not have to choke down tofurkey for too much longer.
That's thanks to the efforts of nascent "cultivated meat" companies plugging away at the seemingly impossible task of creating real meat without the associated death and environmental damage. Seemingly more impossible still, regulators are starting to smile on the new industry's mission.
This past week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) (boo, hiss) completed its first-ever premarket consultation of cultivated chicken produced by Upside Foods. The agency declared that the Berkeley, California, company's process for producing lab-grown chicken from harvested live chicken cells resulted in meat that was safe for human consumption.
Pending approval from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), the company will be able being able to bring its cultivated chicken to market.
"We're in early days but the FDA greenlight is the opening of the floodgates," says Eric Schulze, Upside's vice president of regulatory and public policy. "Any meat that is commonly consumed as food, we are working on."
Schulze tells Reason that Upside can produce anywhere from 5,000 to 400,000 pounds of cultivated meat at its Engineering, Production, and Innovation Center (EPIC) production facility in the Bay Area city of Emeryville, California.
It's at the EPIC facility that the company takes small cell samples of live animal muscle, fat, and sinew tissue and sticks them in large, stainless-steel tanks where they're "fed" with water, sugar, amino acids, and other basic nutrients.
"They're grown in what looks very similar to I'd say a beer brewery or dairy operation-looking facility," says Schulze. "The goal of the entire process is to take that one cell that we've identified and grow trillions of cells."
Upside Foods' plan is to soon migrate to a commercial facility capable of producing up to 15 million pounds of cultivated meat, poultry, and seafood for sale in restaurants and grocery stores.
The budding cultivated meat industry's pitch is that it can produce a product with the same taste and nutritional value as normal meat, but without necessarily having to kill any animals. Growing meat in labs will also theoretically cut down on land needed for farms, and all the emissions and natural habitat destruction that come with them.
There are currently 42 cultivated meat companies operating in the U.S., although Upside remains the only one with any sort of government sign-off. Singapore has approved two products from one cultivated meat company. There are 151 cultivated meat companies globally, according to the Good Food Institute (GFI).
Madeline Cohen, a regulatory attorney with GFI, says that the FDA and USDA have been pretty transparent in terms of regulatory requirements that cultivated food companies have to meet in order to bring their products to market.
In 2019, the two agencies inked a joint agreement for how they'd regulate cultivated meat products.
The FDA is responsible for giving premarket verification that the processes used by cultivated meat companies create meat safe for human consumption. This is something it already does for pharmaceutical products, but generally not for foodstuffs.
The USDA is then responsible for inspecting the actual facilities and regulating the labeling of cultivated meat, poultry, and catfish products (cultivated seafood remains the exclusive domain of the FDA).
Labeling is what presents the largest regulatory risk to the industry, says Cohen.
A number of states have already passed laws restricting what plant-based and cultivated meat companies can call their products, often with the explicit intent of protecting traditional meat producers.
"Some of those laws carry stiff penalties that can be pretty financially ruinous for a company if they're facing a penalty per product per day," says Cohen. Complying with these laws isn't always easy either.
Large-scale food distributors are often regional, meaning that food producers don't necessarily know in which states their products will end up being sold.
"If you need to keep a certain product out of Missouri or you need a certain label on a cultivated meat label, you'll probably need to use the same label in the entire region so that one of your products never ends up in Missouri," Cohen says.
Such labeling laws in Louisiana and California have been successfully challenged on First Amendment grounds.
How they'll end up being labeled at the federal level remains to be seen. The FDA and USDA are still in the process of crafting standards for cultivated meat products. The USDA has said that it will approve labels on a product-by-product basis until it finalizes more formal regulations.
That doesn't give companies a lot of certainty when trying to bring products to market.
At the moment, a lot of these regulatory headaches are mostly theoretical. As mentioned, Upside is the only company to be nearing the ability to put its products in front of consumers.
Schulze says that Upside's chicken will first be served in restaurants, before hopefully making its way to grocery stores.
On when people might be feasting on cultivated turkey for Thanksgiving, he declined to make any predictions.
"I think 2023 is going to be an interesting year," says Schulze. "we'll have the first cultivate meat product on the market competing against traditional meat."
So maybe by next Thanksgiving, a trendy restaurant somewhere can serve up turkey leg while leaving the turkey it came from still standing.
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Why stop at turkeys? I imagine a lot of fans would love a nice rare loin of Taylor Swift.
Creates an interesting ethical question.
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I was gonna say, "Don't Even Go There.".
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If they cultivate clown meat, would it taste funny?
Would a policeman taste like bacon?
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"This past week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) (boo, hiss) completed its first-ever premarket consultation of cultivated chicken produced by Upside Foods. The agency declared that the Berkeley, California, company's process for producing lab-grown chicken from harvested live chicken cells resulted in meat that was safe for human consumption."
Clump of cells?
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"Growing meat in labs will also theoretically cut down on land needed for farms, and all the emissions and natural habitat destruction that come with them."
Uh, sure. Because the meat factories will float on clouds and run on rainbow unicorn farts.
This is a great opportunity for virtue signaling rich people to drive their $90,000 Teslas to Whole Foods and spend $10 per pound for lab chicken. Let's hope the grocery bag has a large label on it so everyone in the parking lot will know who really cares.
So what, if any, benefit is there to this besides being less sinful according to someone else's religion?
It probably offends religion, as we are actually playing god now.
"Playing God" would be doing nothing, since God does not exist, M'Lady.
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Whose religion? Doctor Frankenstein's? It would be impinging on his monopoly. 😉
Soylent turkey is…
what the fuck is it anyway?
Recycled food scraps, most likely. That started here in California about the same time as the synthetic meat industry. Coincidence?
I'm sure lab-grown meat will be much cheaper than natural meat, too. I mean, after the government gets done slapping a 200% tax on natural meat production facilities and using the billions of dollars raised to subsidize lab-grown meat facilities.
Don't forget tax breaks on burning coal for the purpose of lab meats.
Well, plant based meat costs more than real meat right now, even though they don't need to raise the cows. It should have been a lot cheaper.
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No 'we' won't.
Not so theoretical question.
If reason fired all the nonlibritarians would they still exist?
If a tree fell on the Reason staff in a forest, would we care?
No
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A tree that large would be a lamentable loss to the ecosystem.
That's where I stopped reading.
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They tell us not to use fertilizer for crops, now they want to take away the source of manure.
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One interesting possibility is they could create new kinds of meat that taste better than any naturally-occurring meat.
On the other end of the difficulty spectrum, it would be relatively easy to make cultured chicken and beef broth.
Cite?
This is Reason; nobody cites anything here.They are trying to go 'mainstream'.
Or they can just go fuck themselves and leave us alone .
Same level of possibility they could make something that wipes out humanity.
No, not interesting at all.
it will all have the texture of turkey-roll
More choices in what people can put on their tables for dinner. Most assuredly, a good thing.
The issue is the selling as if raising meat is unethical and destroys the planet. Two things that are not true. Anyone that thinks people should be pushed to lab grown meat for the sake of "climate" needs to kill themselves
Mr. Kuckland: I am mostly unconcerned about what some idiot thinks is "ethical." I am equally unconcerned about what some idiot might believe regarding "climate change." In my time I have seen some pretty zany ideas floated around.
But I will be happy have more choices for my dinner table.
Except the idiots concerned with “climate change” have taken over most western governments are really want to mandate things.
All true. That being said, I am pretty sure the first homo-erectus (or whoever) who decided that burned meat tasted better than raw flesh, was also considered a bit of a nut. Technology creates problems. Technology also solves problems. But the journey is sometimes "messy."
It wasn’t the taste, it was he didn’t get food poisoning and survived.
Absolutely. But that doesn't mean he wasn't considered a "nut."
But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t considered a “nut.”
Yes it does. Do you know what the homo-erectus word for "nut" is? Do you know *why* you don't know?
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Just like Crisco! The choice of a poisoned apple is definitively not "a good thing".
Is there a good reason to assume that this would be a "poisoned apple"? I mean, I've got no problem with killing animals and eating them, so I don't really care much about this, but if it can be done safely and efficiently, I don't see a big problem.
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This is great news! There has always been a conceptual intersection between government's inclination to meddle and the leftie bias for vegetarianism and "climate" bullshit. Those of us who like to eat meat and those of us who think that vegetarianism is silly, but who nevertheless like the idea of reducing the demand for raising animals for the purpose of slaughtering them based on sentimental and technical issues will welcome cultured meat products whatever the USDA allows them to be called! Then the only issue will be acceptability of taste and texture and cooking.
Why eat lab grown turkey, made from recycled food and all kinds of chemicals, when you can eat crispy, tasty, energy efficient, planet-saving crickets?
Just insist on humanely raised free-range crickets, ones that get at least one cubic meter each to move around in.
Everything that exists is recycled and made of chemicals, M'Lady.
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FWIW there is much debate amongst Orthodox rabbis as to the status of such meat. One argument is that, by extracting the cells from a living animal, they’re going against the 7 Noahide Laws. This would be resolved by extracting the cells from a freshly slaughtered animal.
Then the question arises, whether the result is meat – as the original cells are unquestionably meat – because if it is, it can’t be properly slaughtered and so isn’t kosher. The alternative is that as the meat is derived from a properly slaughtered animal, the kosher status attaches to the subsequent meat.
The argument that it is not meat according to the law is that only the original cells are meat, and the subsequent cells are not, and the usual rule is that if the proportion is greater than 60:1 it’s ok to treat it as though it’s not meat – so provided there are more than 60 times the volume of subsequent cells, it’s not meat – except that some rabbis hold that this applies to accidental contamination but when it’s deliberate, there is no acceptable proportion of contaminant to otherwise clean food.
Meanwhile, if it is not meat according to the Torah/Talmud, then it can be eaten with dairy, but to avoid marit ayin, some Orthodox will nonetheless decline to eat it with dairy, while others will do so but will place the package prominently on the table so everyone can see that it’s not real meat.
And some rabbis will note that the rule that poultry is meat when it comes to mixing (or not) with dairy is rabbinic, not Biblical - as poultry do not produce milk - and any subsequent prohibition would also be rabbinic, and one does not pile on a rabbinic prohibition onto another rabbinic prohibition, so one might find that the Orthodox treat synth-poultry different from synth-beef.
This will run and run.
They can argle-bargle about it in the next room if they wish, but us intellectually-grown-folks are going to enjoy some surf-and-turf fresh from the vat.
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You misspelled serf-and-turd.
If only the federal government wasn't involved.
There is no question that subsidies and coercion are the next steps.
This will never be "another choice" on the dinner tale, it will be forced on the citizens.
Why is government involved? Do you think the existing meat industry is not going to push back hard with the politicians they own. Why do you think we have raw milk laws in Wisconsin? Do you think it is because the liberals don't want raw milk, because they love it. The Dairy Industry does not want people getting sick on milk, because the public will not know the difference. Same here with meat. Meat producers are going to want a clear distinction between their product and synthetic meat.
I find this area of food production fascinating. Now nothing will replace a beef steak or pork chop, but there is a vast number of meats that don't rely on structure. Is your hamburger different if it is grown in a tank rather than meat trimmings? If they can get product to scale at a reasonable price, there is no reason a large part of the meat production would not go to these synthetic meats.
Is lab grown "meat" in a class with lab grown virus?
Not at my house, I would shoot and cook a woodchuck first, tastes like chicken.
Not at your house but maybe at the local fast-food place.
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