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Reason Roundup

Impersonators Are Already Running Amok Under New Twitter Rules

Plus: "you can't spoil what's already rotten," inflation stayed high in October, Election 2022 takeaways, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 11.10.2022 9:45 AM

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On Wednesday, Twitter rolled out its new Twitter Blue program, under which anyone can pay $8 per month to get a blue checkmark emoji next to their name. Blue checkmarks on Twitter previously signified that an account holder's identity had been verified—and this is still how the blue check is used on other social media platforms, such as Instagram. But under Elon Musk's leadership, Twitter is rolling out a weird and confusing new system under which the blue check sometimes means someone's identity has been verified and sometimes doesn't.

Predictably, this has already led to a lot of imposter accounts.

For instance, someone pretending to be the verified account for Nintendo shared an image of Mario giving the finger:

I love this in my soul

Verification for all doing great rn pic.twitter.com/WzOMPDlDGK

— Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair ???? (@senatorshoshana) November 9, 2022

Blue check accounts have also impersonated people like Rudy Giuliani, Joe Biden, Ben Shapiro, and Donald Trump.

 

Most of these so far have been obvious parodies. In addition to the content of their tweets being implausible for the person they're imitating, the impersonating accounts still have handles that give them away. (You'll note that the handle for the fake Nintendo account, for instance, is @nintendoofus.)

But some—like the fake Trump account—are tweeting more realistically. Handles appear much smaller than account names and the blue checks, making the ruse difficult to distinguish for folks scrolling quickly. Scammers who pick more plausible account handles will be even harder for your average Twitter user to suss out.

It's a mess.

At least impersonations of brand accounts, prominent politicians, and celebrities are detectable with a little work. Many large firms are already on Twitter, market themselves to a broad audience in an inoffensive way, and have many followers. And when impersonators do pose as famous people, the actual accounts can easily call them out publicly, while countless others will do the same on their behalf. They should also have no problem getting Twitter to acknowledge the problem and suspend the offending accounts.

It's not impersonations of high-profile accounts that are the problem. It's the person impersonating a minor online celebrity, an obscure government functionary, or perhaps their ex. That's where the harm will be done and no one will notice or care until it's far too late

— Jack Lawrence (@JackMLawrence) November 9, 2022

The issues will be much harder to deal with for people who are "public figures" but not A-list famous—activists, academics, journalists, scientists, doctors, etc.—and especially for people who are not public figures but are still plagued by impersonators. Your average person will have a much harder time proving to the Twitter powers that be that they are the real account, especially if their account is relatively new or rarely used (in fact, some savvy impersonators may preemptively report the people they're impersonating as the imposters). And this will likely be even more difficult for folks who don't have a Twitter account and find an impersonator starting one.

In short, the new system makes it easier for malicious actors to do serious reputational damage to their targets and for folks to create entirely fake identities to spread false information or stir up drama.

The potential for abuse would be smaller if Twitter said, Look, blue checkmarks once meant "identity verified," and now they don't.

This was the company's earlier plan—it announced earlier this week that blue checks would now mean you paid for an account, while prominent verified accounts would get a badge saying "official." But after rolling out the official badge on some accounts, Twitter backtracked, took it away, and announced that blue checks would mean either official or paid. As of now, the only way to tell the difference is to click through to an account's profile and click on the checkmark.

Twitter could have created a different color check mark to signify paid accounts. Or it could have changed the verified account color to differentiate. Either move would have made more sense from a usability standpoint. But neither of those plans would have allowed Musk to brag that he was democratizing the blue check—which has taken on a weird symbolic meaning far beyond its actual utility—and might be less enticing to people who see a blue check (not a green or a gray or a pink one!) as a status symbol.

What should be obvious to Musk is that the blue check's symbolic value was derived from its scarcity. Granting a checkmark to anyone who pays diminishes the perceived prestige while ruining the useful identity verification function.

It's one of many recent decisions that make it seem Musk has no idea what he's doing.

The result: an exodus of Twitter advertisers and plummeting stock for Musk's other company, Tesla.

Tesla's stock price how now fallen 46% since Elon Musk's bid to buy Twitter became public on April 14. This has reduced Tesla's market value by almost half a trillion dollars. (For comparison, the S&P's fallen about 15% during the same time.) pic.twitter.com/GgtMVCFxF5

— ☀️ Jon Schwarz ☀️ (@schwarz) November 9, 2022

Meanwhile, Musk has signaled that he'd like to get Twitter into the financial services business.


FREE MINDS

Libertarian "spoiler" allegations strike again. Several midterm House and Senate races are still uncertain. Chief among these is the Senate race between Herschel Walker (R) and Raphael Warnock (D) in Georgia, which will go to a runoff election. Partisans on both sides blame Libertarian Party candidate Chase Oliver, who got just over 2 percent of the vote, for depriving Walker and Warnock of a conclusive victory. As in every election, this criticism assumes that Libertarian Party voters, absent a Libertarian Party candidate, would have given their votes to one of the two major parties. But, as Oliver told Reason, "you can't spoil what's already rotten."

"Many Libertarian voters would have simply stayed home without a Libertarian in the race — it's not true that our votes automatically would go to one of major party candidates." ???? ⁦@robbysoave⁩ claps back at people angry at ⁦@ChaseForLiberty https://t.co/KteoOxZ1UH

— Matt McDonald (@mattjpfmcdonald) November 10, 2022


FREE MARKETS

Inflation stayed high in October. From The Washington Post:

Data to be released Thursday morning by the Bureau of Labor Statistics is expected to show prices rose roughly 8 percent in October compared with the year before. Regardless of the specific figure, the latest report will tell an all-too-familiar story for Americans nationwide: Inflation is the biggest threat to the economy and continues to burrow into nearly ever part of life.


ELECTION 2022

One thing we totally neglected in yesterday's Roundup: how much Jared Polis dominated in Colorado. (See also: Jared Polis—the Most Libertarian Governor in America?)

So, uh, when do we start talking about how Jared Polis just did to Colorado what DeSantis did to Florida? Dominated a once purple state by nearly 20 points and pulled the entire party up with him. https://t.co/fBDxCT3oqb

— Yair Rosenberg (@Yair_Rosenberg) November 9, 2022

After the GOP drastically under-performed projections, some Republicans are doing some soul-searching. Others are… not:

When you're DEFINITELY ready to accept the lessons of the 2022 election. pic.twitter.com/DMtsTgO6Qs

— Berny Belvedere (@bernybelvedere) November 9, 2022

More Reason coverage of election results:

  • Democrats Spent Millions Boosting Far-Right Republicans. How Did It Pan Out?
  • The Crime Backlash Mostly Failed To Materialize on Election Night
  • Worries About Inflation Didn't Stop Voters From Approving Minimum Wage Increases
  • J.D. Vance Seized His Chance, but the New Right Had a Bad Night

QUICK HITS

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1590213966999216128

• More than 100,000 Russian troops have been killed or injured in the war in Ukraine, according to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley.

• School discipline run amok: A 10-year-old faces criminal charges after a school counselor says he touched her inappropriately during a hug and reported it to the police.

• A 1978 law meant to keep adopted Native American children with their tribes when possible is being challenged in the Supreme Court. "Among the provisions being challenged is one that gives preference to Native Americans seeking to foster or adopt Native American children, which those challenging the law say discriminates on the basis of race," reports NBC News.

• President Joe Biden says the government should investigate Elon Musk's ties to foreign countries.

A president shouldn't suggest that @elonmusk or any American citizen should be "looked at" outside the formal legal process and without a specific allegation of wrongdoing. https://t.co/TTfvuRFgmv

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) November 10, 2022

• There's listeria in deli meats and cheese again.


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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...anyone can pay $8 per month to get a blue checkmark emoji next to their name.

    The villagers have breached the walls!

    1. Illocust   3 years ago

      Hmmm, it'll be interesting to see how this widths out long term. The extra money means enforcing the anti-parody rules for blue checks should still come out as a cost savings.

      1. DonnaRamos   3 years ago (edited)

        Google pay 200$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12000 for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it outit..
        🙂 AND GOOD LUCK.:)

        HERE====)> ???.????????.???

        1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

          I knew a girl....Donna was her name
          She spammed the comments
          Getting paid to spam was her game

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

            Oh, Donna, oh oh, Donna, oh oh oh
            Looking for my Donna
            :')

            1. Rob Misek   3 years ago

              Why do people think they have the right to communicate anonymously to anyone else?

              What possible good does that serve?

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                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  Get ‘em Rob!

    2. Eeyore   3 years ago

      I like the chaos.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Elon, is that you?

        1. Eeyore   3 years ago

          Only in one really weird dream.

      2. VickyDPinson   3 years ago (edited)

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    3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      The peasants are revolting!
      They stink on ice

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        "You look like the piss-boy.."

    4. Overt   3 years ago

      It is increasingly hilarious how transparently, narcissistically obsessed ENB is with Musk dirtying up her playground.

      Pause for a moment and consider that 2 years ago, the general stance was "This is a private company, doing private things, it doesn't concern us." If there was a reason for a LIBERTARIAN MAGAZINE to comment on the goings on at Twitter, it was to say they are free to do what they want with their business model.

      Flash forward to today where Musk has bought the company to- in his words- increase freedom of expression. Now, you would think that a LIBERTARIAN MAGAZINE's response to that would be either, "This is a private company, doing private things, it doesn't concern us," or "Wow, good for Musk trying to increase the spread of Free Expression."

      But no. In nearly a dozen articles, ENB has brought ZERO libertarian perspective to this story, instead choosing to second guess one of the most successful businessmen in history. She parrots the crypto-authoritarian apologia of Tech Dirt's Masnick, who insists that Twitter is merely creating an orderly marketplace when it locks out NY Post reporters and censors COVID information. She grabs every little business decision, and insists that she somehow knows the better decision.

      We get it, ENB. You love your Blue Check status. You love having shallow, vapid hot-takes masquerading as conversations with other Blue Checks that serve as your friend base. That's all great. But it isn't libertarian. It is libertarian-neutral. And your constant anklebiting is not helping the cause of Free Minds and Free Markets in any way- it just makes you look like a petty, elitist snob.

      1. Super Scary   3 years ago

        The previous way to be verified was apparently very nebulous and not very consistent. It was a mark of pride to finally grab the notice of some random Twitter employee and be granted one after being proven to say and do the right things.

        Now that any schlub with 8 bucks can get one, I am sure she feels betrayed.

        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          It sure seems that way. This is the article of envy, you can tell by the complete lack of introspection and actual analysis.

          "Already" run amok. It's not unlike when they said hate speech had gone up and never bothered to mention the spike was literally a coordinated campaign to post nigger as much as possible on the one day that they were taking the survey.

          Let's see how things work out in a month or two, when the $8 bill comes due, when moderation has had more than 8 hours to kick in and suspend accounts that impersonate others (which is and has been against TOS), and it all balances.

          Or not, I don't care about twitter specifically. I'm more interested in how ENB still has a job at a formerly libertarian magazine.

          1. Overt   3 years ago

            That's the other thing. Elon Musk just bought this fucking company. It's been like two weeks. Maybe it takes more than a few hours to change the direction of a massive corporation?

            They remind me of the start of the second Iraq war when every time a tank stopped rolling, people were declaring that the invasion was "stalling". It is so transparent. These people are looking for every reason to declare Musk a failure.

            Imagine if these asshats were doing this while SpaceX was busy crashing rockets off the coast, or while any software development team ever was going through its Early Adopter phases. They'd be declaring utter failure up until the day that SpaceX (or software titan foo) was dominating the industry, and they'd never understand why.

            1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

              I often tell a parable about a kid going to Disneyland. Whines that he had to get up early, whines about standing in line, whines about it being hot, whines about the crowds, whines about being hungry, whines about how hokey the Haunted Mansion was...

              Fuck dude, give it a chance. Maybe it'll suck, but if you spend all of your time trying to point out every single thing that's not perfect and extrapolate any moment you don't like during trip to infinity, as though this is how it will always be, forever, of course you're not going to have a good time.

              There's no wait and see here. It seems people want it to be bad, so they'll make it bad, then pick the bad they made as an example and act like that's how things will be forever. Hell, most of the whining isn't even about a real stumble, it's just what they THINK will be wrong.

              This attitude is possibly the most annoying thing about social media and modern politics. Nothing someone we don't like does can be good. Ugh.

            2. Yatusabes   3 years ago

              That’s the other thing. Elon Musk just bought this fucking company. It’s been like two weeks. Maybe it takes more than a few hours to change the direction of a massive corporation?

              Cut ENB some slack maybe? Her expertise is prostitution not running corporations.

              1. JoeB   3 years ago

                Well, honey, now you're talkin'!

        2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

          I'm sure some people paid a lot more than $8/month.

      2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        ^ 100% this

      3. DesigNate   3 years ago

        Why are you being so mean to her!!!11!!!1!

      4. ravenshrike   3 years ago

        The real question is was ENB one of the people paying thousands of dollars under the table for her blue checkmark?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          With 15 paragraphs whining about Twitter? I'd be surprised if ENB wasn't one of those people paying thousands of dollars under the table for a blue check.

          1. perlmonger   3 years ago

            Nah, just a lunch-line of ENBJs.

      5. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

        The charitable read is that so much journalism takes place in social media, gathering information from story subjects' tweets rather than the "shoe leather" of days past, that the verification disruption makes that now unreliable. That's valid. Technology makes life easier for all of us, and reporters are no different. But technology changes. Blockbuster replaces theater-going. Streaming replaces Blockbuster. Twitter didn't get supplanted yet, but instead became a little more work.

    5. Bubba Jones   3 years ago

      Your average person will have a much harder time proving to the Twitter powers that be that they are the real account

      The "average person" never had access to a blue checkmark.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        For a paltry $8 it's worth having what is now the inverse opposite of a scarlet letter

      2. JoeB   3 years ago

        ENB is hardly an average person. Serf.

    6. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      “The Sneetches got really quite smart on that day. The day they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches. And no kind of Sneetch is the best on the beaches. That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars and whether they had one, or not, upon thars.”

      Dr. Seuss predicted blue checks 60 years ago. That old racist bastard.

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Hasn’t he been posthumously cancelled?

    7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      I wonder if Musk could charge more by offering blue checks and red checks.

  2. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/nov/9/tony-deluca-dead-pennsylvania-lawmaker-reelected-s/

    Pennsylvania’s longest-serving state representative was reelected Tuesday — despite having died last month.

    Democratic lawmaker Tony DeLuca died of lymphoma on Oct. 9 at 85 years old, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      The dead electing the dead. Democracy at its democraciest.

      1. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

        https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1590517570095882240

        Deranged libs on MSNBC are already salivating over a Fetterman Presidential run:

        "It just makes you wonder"

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          Wasn't one vegetable enough for them in the White House?

          1. Eeyore   3 years ago

            They make great puppets.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              Are you talking about Veggie Tales? Are you some kind of Christian fascist?

            2. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

              Fetterman looks more muppet than puppet. haha

          2. Zeb   3 years ago

            I think they've decided that vegetable in the White house is the only way to go.

            1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

              The vegan alternative.

        2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

          I look forward to the Biden-Fetterman primary debates. First candidate to speak a full sentence wins.

          1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

            Moderated by Jackie. Is she here?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              Just as soon as Corn Pop gets there.

          2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            No fake sentences either. "Trunalimunumaprzure" doesn't count.

        3. Ronbback   3 years ago

          even her co host were laughing at that idea but they will forget their laughter when they start promoting the idea.

        4. Cronut   3 years ago

          It's not like it matters if the president is coherent. Elected officials don't run the government.

    2. Illocust   3 years ago

      I'm starting to think that Dem voters prefer representatives who are legal figure heads. I guess it would make sense with their rule by bureaucracy boner recently.

    3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      The dead guy makes electing uncle fester seem ok.

    4. mad.casual   3 years ago

      People voting for "Whomever the party chooses" alive, dead, incapacitated, just functional enough to violate their oath of office and call for flagrantly unConstitutional and illegal investigations into private citizens... citizens who provided material aid on their side in the war they started... I'm beginning to think Putin might not be wrong about going hot. Fuck it.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Welcome to how elections are done in Chicago. The assholes just choose whomever has a "D" after his/her name. Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot could win there just by being Democrats.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Democracy good and hard. Really hard.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            And no lube! Crucial detail! 🙂

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              Does Elmer's count as lube?

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

                Not for vegans.

        2. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Welcome to how elections are done in Chicago.

          I'm used to it in Chicago. Chicagoans being Chicagoans is nothing new. It's the NY to CA, mayor, governor, senator, President since HRC/Obama onward, and continuing into the future, with the support of the MSM, deep state/federal bureaucracy, unions, regulatory and/or science bureacracy, education bureaucracy, domestic and international monetary bureaucracy, and a number of other bureaucracies I haven't mentioned that really bugs me.

        3. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

          Hitler/Pot 2024!

    5. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      Fortified, for your enjoyment.

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

      Did John Ashcroft lose again to a dead man?

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Grave errors were made.

    7. Jerryskids   3 years ago

      No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

      And as with Mel Carnahan, who was also elected after he was dead, the Constitutional requirement that you be an inhabitant of the state you're elected from doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to ignoring the fact that dead people aren't inhabitants of any fucking state.

      1. Zeb   3 years ago

        Yeah, good point. Just have to hold onto life until just after election day, though.

    8. Bubba Jones   3 years ago

      This is pretty normal when someone dies too close to an election to be replaced on the ballot.

      How many MAGA would vote for Biden just because Trump stroked out?

    9. Super Scary   3 years ago

      I'm already seeing the cope and deflection from people that think this says more about the opposing team than it does about the party that voted for a guy that has been dead for over a month.

  3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    inflation stayed high in October

    Don't worry, Pedo Joe has already promised he's going to do nothing different in the next two years

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Why mess with success?

    2. Anomalous   3 years ago

      There's still lots of kid hair to be sniffed.

    3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      The American Public says the country is going in the wrong direction, then voted to go even faster.

  4. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

    ENB, you pay $15,000 for a blue check, and now you're pissy that you overpaid?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Spiritus Mundi   3 years ago

      I can't imagine how empty her life must be to care so much about something as pointless as twitter.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        This is what's so awesome about Musk buying Twatter--however this turns out, I win.

        If his changes result in Twitter going the way of MySpace or a shadow version of itself like Gawker, I win.
        If his changes result in Twitter becoming less of a clearinghouse for libshit narrative control, I win.

        Either way, Twitter's never going back to what it was before, and that can only be positive for society as a whole.

        What's more instructive here is how the left has been reacting to this, and they've done it solely because Musk isn't acting like a shitlib pod person. If he had just been spouting The Narrative like a good NPC, they wouldn't care. Look at the sheer amount of sour grapes coming out of the left in the wake of this--"Oh, Twitter is such a cesspool, maybe it really is time for me to leave!" "Oh, Twitter lost $220 million last year, it's a dying company!" Yet these people readily indulged in it because 1) THEY'RE FUCKING DOPAMINE ADDICTS and this was the easiest way of getting their fix, and 2) the company was run and operated by their political allies for the express purpose of advancing their own ideological agendas.

        Like a lot of things the left does, none of their complaints are based on actual principles other than their own will to power. They're all insincere mendacious assholes, and should be treated like the subhuman garbage that they are.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          See: narcissistic personality disorder.

          1. perlmonger   3 years ago

            We've built infrastructure to amplify Cluster-B types. It's not going to end well.

        2. Overt   3 years ago

          Yup, watching these Twitterattzi suddenly become business experts, concerned about the stewardship of the company, is fucking hilarious. They gave zero shits that Twitter lost millions year over year until Musk went and bought the company, upsetting their apple cart. Now they all suddenly have MBAs and Marketing Genius Certificates.

          1. DesigNate   3 years ago

            To be fair, a lot of those white liberal women that make up the bulk of the non-bots probably do have an MBA.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            The company lost $200 MILLION last year while their allies were running the joint. Like a lot of Silicon Valley "businesses," they've survived solely off of fresh cash infusions from stock sales and VC rounds, not from actual business revenue. It would have collapsed years ago if the mass media class and Hollywood hadn't made them the platform of choice for establishing the "conventional wisdom" they way the big-city newspapers and Big 3 news networks did during the post-World War II era up through when Dan Rather finally sprayed his own foot with an M-60.

            And now we see how ideologically blinkered they really are when their social media safe space is perceived to be compromised by a man who shares EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR DUMB GLOBALIST BELIEFS, save for the idea that the right might actually deserve a place at the table.

            Fuck them, fuck their repressive tolerance, and fuck their stupid sociopolitical religious cult.

        3. mtrueman   3 years ago

          "Either way, Twitter’s never going back to what it was before, and that can only be positive for society as a whole."

          I've heard speculation that ex-Twitter users who've been banned over the years, may return now the ownership has been changed. Perhaps it will go back to what it once was and you'll win yet again.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            Sneed.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        It's either that or sex work.

        1. perlmonger   3 years ago

          ENBJs aren't rare enough to have much market value.

      3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        Her "Precious".

    2. Stuck in California   3 years ago

      She feels like a NYC cabbie who mortgaged his father's house for a medallion just after Uber and Lyft came to be.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The issues will be much harder to deal with for people who are "public figures" but not A-list famous—activists, academics, journalists, scientists, doctors, etc....

    Before you know it, people posing as medical professionals will have us all wiping down our groceries, masking our children and shuttering our small businesses while big chains remain open and crowded.

    1. Minadin   3 years ago

      But will those big box stores have the lottery machines still open and the Christmas decorations section closed?

    2. Aloysious   3 years ago

      Whatever it takes to keep people from running amok.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Partisans on both sides blame Libertarian Party candidate Chase Oliver, who got just over 2 percent of the vote, for depriving Walker and Warnock of a conclusive victory.

    No one ever blames the voters.

    1. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

      Which is more 'libertarian', a vote for one of those guys or Rand Paul chairing the committee investigating Covid response?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        I'd like to see Rand Paul investigating the Covid response, myself, but that's just my anti-authoritarian libertarian opinion.

      2. R Mac   3 years ago

        Didn’t you hear those Paul guys are racists?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Who isn't?

          1. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

            White liberal women, only.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              Unless they're TERFs. Then they're just a bunch of bigoted bitches to the Left.

            2. Ignore me!   3 years ago

              The religiously joyless white progressive women who live on my street would agree with this 100% without irony or any sense that a joke had been made.

    2. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      Anybody realize that if all the Libertarian voters stayed home and didn't vote, Warnock would have won? In other words, the denominator of total votes gets smaller and the percentage of Warnock's share to that total gives him 50.6%.

      Vote for who you want, people.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        "the denominator of total votes gets smaller and the percentage of Warnock’s share to that total gives him 50.6%."

        Wait, what?

        1. Minadin   3 years ago

          If all the 200k or so people who voted for the (L) had instead sat out and not voted for anyone, then the vote total goes down, so instead of it being 49.4% to 48.6% to 2%, both of those guys get a bump to 50.6% and 49.4%, respectively.

          And then there is no runoff.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            You're making the same assumptions you decry about people who say the L vote belongs to the R vote. You're now saying the L vote would never vote for the R vote if not available.

            1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

              It doesn't have anything to do with (L) voting for anyone else. The fact that they voted at all had an effect on the election, by making the total vote pool larger. If you take away the (L) and don't give it to either party, the pool gets smaller and one candidate is able to secure the victory on election day.

              They've merely prolonged the inevitable (one of the two major parties will win), but the (L) votes made a difference.

            2. Minadin   3 years ago

              I am not. I'm explaining what Ajsloss said.

            3. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              Oddly, in this case, the L may have kept the race from being over 50% for Warnock and given Walker another lease on political life. Who they may vote for? Who knows. What's more important is to get all hands on deck for Walker and push him over 50% in the runoff.

              1. JoeB   3 years ago

                Well, for Walker, a runoff will be no contest. That guy is really fast.

  7. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    Did y'all hear about the GOP Secretary of State that didn't recuse herself from handling an election where she was on the ticket for Governor, and the vote count is a total clusterfuck?

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Yeah, that seems shady as fuck. At least Arizona is on the up-and-up.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        No widespread corruption.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          You know who else had a wide spread?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            JB Pritzker?

            1. Minadin   3 years ago

              One wonders how many turkeys he eats for Thanksgiving.

          2. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

            Ben Cartwright?

        2. Minadin   3 years ago

          https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr/former-us-congressman-and-philadelphia-political-operative-pleads-guilty-election-fraud

          1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

            Local crime, move along.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      Reminds me of the secretary of state that’s been repeatedly rebuked by courts over illegal election changes winning re-election by a landslide.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        A true guardian of democracy.

  8. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Inflation continues to proceed. Up 0.4% month over month and over 7% year over year. Glad the elections didn't care about this issue.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-october-inflation-surges-but-less-than-expected-energy-prices-up-ahead-of-winter

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      But “less than expected”, so SleepyJoe gets a win!

  9. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Inflation is the biggest threat to the economy and continues to burrow into nearly ever part of life.

    Fortunately we have just voted our way out of it.

    1. Dillinger   3 years ago

      tv told me the inflations are eased now so I bought a bunch of stocks

    2. Bubba Jones   3 years ago

      Inflation is how we tax the little people.

  10. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    In addition to the content of their tweets being implausible for the person they're imitating

    The Biden parody was pretty convincing. The absence of any children or family members was the real give-away.

    1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      It made me laugh.

  11. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Biden seems to have no issue going after people the left dislikes.

    Reporter: "Do you think
    @elonmusk
    is a threat to national security?"
    .
    Biden: "It's worthy of being looked at."

    https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1590464989705703426

    The biggest consequence of the election will be the inability to go after the doj and FBI politicalization. And as stated the current powers will be emboldened. Reason will likely be silent.

    1. Ronbback   3 years ago

      this is the scariest part above inflation and all else. the left said the GOP would not have any more elections while the democrats will make sure anyone who runs against them will be incarcerated or at least under investigation so they can't run. the Dems have been doing this for years in the past but it was only done locally to a few senators now it is being done nationally

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      Yep. Using executive law enforcement and bureaucracy for political purposes has been blatant the last couple years, and Reason has mostly ignored it. They definitely didn’t factor it into their pre-election coverage. Which is odd for an organization pretending to be libertarian.

      I wouldn’t say I’d be happy if someone at Reason got raided for wrongthink, but I’d give it a chuckle.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        There must be a way to reconcile support for establishment authoritarianism with libertarianism, but I can't think of one.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Simple: Conservatives are icky and deserve it.

          https://mobile.twitter.com/mattwelch/status/1102654202545913857?s=12

          1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            Every time I see that I wonder why you don't have to go to the wayback machine to find it.

            Tells you something that it's still up there.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              Who do you think Matt Welch is, Taylor Lorenz?

              1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

                I dunno. I've only known the name for a couple years. Maybe he's a Taylor Lorenz sock puppet!

    3. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      "Reason will likely be silent."

      Well, as long as the DOJ and FBI only go after their icky conservative opponents, they're 100% fine with it.

    4. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      If by silent you mean enthusiastically cheerleading the abuses, then I agree. How many breathless articles have there been over J6 or the raid on Trump's residence? How many favorable stories on the Dem blackshirts and their riots, arson and looting?

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        I concede your point.

    5. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      I have heard there is evidence that will send Hillary Clinton to jail stashed at 1747 Connecticut Ave. N.W. Washington, DC 20009

  12. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Katy Tur says what we are all thinking. Fetterman for president.

    “Fetterman, as a nominee, at some point, for president, I know there are some variables, obviously. Just a few. But I just — you know, what he did in the super red, deep red parts of Pennsylvania and the way that he ran ahead of Biden…ran ahead of Trump, I mean, it just makes — it makes you wonder about his future.”

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

      Fetterman is a posterchild for the "wealthy straight white cis-male privilege" Democrats claim they want to dismantle.

      But since Democrats are completely full of shit about almost everything they claim to believe, yeah, it's not surprising to watch them embarrass themselves like this.

      1. damikesc   3 years ago

        The whole "It's MEAN to criticize the handicapped" is bullshit. He is not being criticized for having a stroke. He is criticized for pursuing an office he cannot hope to actually meet the requirements of instead of actually recovering from a stroke.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Come on. A central tenet of progressive Democrat identity is victimhood. And as a victim, any criticism, real or imagined, is immoral.

          Of course, criticism is exactly what most self-identified victims want, since it proves their status (and feeds their narcissism).

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        He married a DACA person so he gets extra kudos for never having a real job and living off others.

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      There’s a lot of things about uncle fester that make me wonder.

    3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      Since when does intellect matter in politics?

      Just look at recent history where a reality TV show star was elected president followed by a senile old man.

      Fetterman vs Herschel Walker 2024 ! Choose your vegetable !! The Cantalope vs the Eggplant !!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Are you now Reason's most esteemed political expert now too, in addition to being Reason's most esteemed economic expert?

        #BothAreSmarterThanYouDork

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          He blindly repeats Soros funded talking points making him the smartest man in the room outside of Soros.

        2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

          I insulted your political idols?

          Where do I apologize? It is so unbecoming of a H&R poster.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            What the fuck is H&R? I'm just your average everyday shitposter here.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              And shrike is just your everyday average kiddie porn poster.

      2. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled asshole and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      3. damikesc   3 years ago

        One has some actual accomplishments in his past. One lived off mommy and daddy until his 40s

    4. Ignore me!   3 years ago

      Can Team D just skip to the end and nominate Mr. Potato Head?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        I thought they already did. Team R has a few times.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...how much Jared Polis dominated in Colorado.

    I'm not sure how okay I am with the dom/sub jokes about Polis.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      It’s the Libertine Moment!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        LOL

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Reasons fascination with this guy, and their hatred for all things DeSantis is rather telling.

      1. JoeB   3 years ago

        Reason is now just wonky chicks and soyboys. Alpha males trigger them bad.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          But Beta males get them feeling all squishy inside.

  14. damikesc   3 years ago

    "A president shouldn’t suggest that @elonmusk or any American citizen should be “looked at” outside the formal legal process and without a specific allegation of wrongdoing."

    Hey, but no mean tweets, amirite?

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      'Musk' being four letters long means every defense of Biden and Progressives gets 20% more efficient.

    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      What is your point here? Did Justin Amash ever say that Trump is unfit to be President because of his mean tweets?

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Caw caw!

      2. damikesc   3 years ago

        Well, he thought Trump was too divisive and has managed to not see that in Biden, though it is considerably worse (Trump did not repeatedly attack half the country, after all). So, we're trying to figure out what produced sand in Amash's vagina

  15. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Why do democrats want people to be unhappy? That is now their largest voting constituency.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/exit-poll-shows-nearly-70-of-single-women-voted-democrat-in-midterms

    The only groups they won were single women, who are often more unhappy than an average person, and college/recent college students indoctrinated.

    This is one of the reasons focusing on education is so important. Instead of ignoring what is being done in schools, people need to shine a light on it. Go back to education over indoctrination. We are literally seeing the same change we saw under Mao in China where schools created a cultural change through schools, teaching kids to go against parents and society. It is the same playroom and it is happening now.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      Yeah, education is the ticket.

      WE NEED MORE BIBLE LEARNIN !!!

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Fuck off pedo.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        All caps really does work ever-so-well to get your point across. It's obviously the way to make people stand up and pay attention.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

          You dumbass. All caps signifies what The Pack says. Your team - in other words.

          1. Sevo   3 years ago

            Fuck off and die, lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. R Mac   3 years ago

            Pedo lies.

          3. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            You're the idiot who wrote that way, not them, not us, not me.

          4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            You dumbass. All caps signifies what The Pack says"

            Ever thought of using quotation marks instead of inventing your own grammatical rules?

            Fucking retard.

          5. damikesc   3 years ago

            You know the biting sarcasm is working when you have to explain it because nobody gets it. That's a sign you're winning. It is.

            ...note: I do not have to explain the sarcasm here.

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 years ago

          All caps comments are not all created equal. Mine are like, super cool and so true. And like, relevant and stuff.

      3. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd posted it; it's lies.

      4. DesigNate   3 years ago

        Because that’s exactly what Jesse said, let alone implied.

        Goddamn you really are the dumbest motherfucker to post here.

      5. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

        change we saw under Mao in China where schools created a cultural change through schools, teaching kids to go against parents and society.

        BP - WE NEED MORE BIBLE LEARNIN !!!

        Your usual, well educated take SPBP.

      6. JoeB   3 years ago

        No, just more armed anti-groomers in the classroom.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      This is one of the reasons focusing on education is so important. Instead of ignoring what is being done in schools, people need to shine a light on it. Go back to education over indoctrination.

      The GOP could have done this decades ago, but that involves actual work and organization at the ground level, and the party is allergic to such things. It's why a relatively organic in-party insurgency like the Tea Party (which actually emerged in the wake of TARP, let's not forget) was seen as a threat that needed to be co-opted and subsumed back into the same old "forever wars and tax cuts" bullshit that had dominated the party's platform for 20 years when Bush I became President.

      The party's leaders are much more comfortable being controlled opposition and tools for the Chamber of Commerce than actually advancing a political agenda from the ground-up.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        If there's anything Trump did that was positive, it was shaking up the GOP and pissing off the "forever wars and tax cuts" crowd. Many of them have either moved to the Democrats or are on the fence - see Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger as examples. Of course, now it's time to move to the next step, and that's going after Wokeism.

      2. R Mac   3 years ago

        “The party’s leaders are much more comfortable being controlled opposition”

        Lindsey Graham proposing a nationwide abortion ban agrees.

      3. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Parents groups seemingly have finally taken notice and are actively participating in school board elections. So there is some hope.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Don't expect that to last long. A lot easier to go back to sleep and pretend everything is fine as long as Susie gets her "A."

        2. Personcommenting   3 years ago

          Don't expect it to help. The recently defeated school board contenders in our area were the crazy kind of MAGA. They were actually trying to remove reasonable board members. The crazy just pushes people the other way and gives fodder to the crazy on the other side.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      I hear "Biden-loving single women" and I imagine whiny feminists, near-suicidal purple hairs, and the next generation of cat ladies.

      1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

        But that purple hair smells the best.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          Smells like patchouli oil.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 years ago

      “Why do democrats want people to be unhappy?”

      Cuz EVERYTHING IS SO TERRIBLE AND UNFAIR!!!!

      Duh. We’ve been over this….

  16. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A 10-year-old faces criminal charges after a school counselor says he touched her inappropriately during a hug and reported it to the police.

    Counselor won the race to report the adult/child hug first.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

      The child’s father said the incident was reminiscent of the case of Emmett Till, the Black 14-year-old boy who was tortured and murdered by two white men in 1955 after a white woman accused him of making improper advances.

      The child is Black, and the counselor is white.

      Oof. The counselor may come to really regret this.

    2. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Would you say she left him behind?

    3. Cyto   3 years ago

      Genuis, as always

    4. damikesc   3 years ago

      Is her name "Karen"?

  17. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

    Diesel fuel is going to be a problem.

    https://kiwaradio.com/ag-news/high-diesel-prices-put-strain-on-farmers/

    With diesel prices more than $1.50 per gallon high than this time last year, the American Farm Bureau Federation calls on the Biden administration to bring more domestic supply online, A ban on U.S. imports of petroleum from Russia, lower domestic production capacity, and seasonal demand are all contributing to higher costs.

    Of course, this translates to higher food prices.
    #FuckJoeBiden

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      No worries. As long as we can continue dismembering babies, the concerns you raise are secondary.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Abortion is the most important thing.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      https://www.hazard-herald.com/opinion/running-on-empty/article_892c4866-60e2-11ed-bdce-f328c84a05bc.html

      We are running on empty when it comes to common-sense energy policy. The latest victim of the radical push to end all fossil fuel use is diesel. Whether you believe or not, a crisis is spreading across the country. Analysts point to a 25-day diesel supply, with rationing already occurring in the Northeast region of the country.

      Diesel is the most important fuel for our economy. The reason being diesel fuels construction, semi-trucks, ships, barges, trains, school buses, military, farmers and most every imaginable combination of heavy equipment and vehicle that provides our economy the underpinnings it needs to keep on trucking.

      This lies at the feet of Joe Biden.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        All part of the exciting transition to the alternative energy economy.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Best part being we don't have enough minerals to go full electric and the primary expoets of this minerals are the evil countries like Russia and China.

          1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

            If we had the capability for producing the initial run of batteries, the electric grid isn't set up to handle that many EVs. Nor are people able to afford the costs of the vehicle, or charging -the arguments for efficiency center around grocery getters not rural workers or long-distance haulers. The next several sets of batteries are going to be harder to source, I suspect, and more expensive.

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago

              The stories of people shocked by 20k battery replacements, 5k light fixes, etc is hilarious.

            2. Sevo   3 years ago

              "If we had the capability for producing the initial run of batteries, the electric grid isn’t set up to handle that many EVs..."

              On top of which, city gov't watermelons in CA are pushing to prohibit NG use in new construction. How many kilowatts are required to heat every home even in the moderate coastal areas, let alone the Sierra? Easy: More than CA produces now, even with NG-powered plants.

              1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

                Tell me about it. I live outside of one of the hipster douche/progressive vortex cities. The level of smug is mindboggling. There is no, and I mean no, industry. Some minor tech, some mid sized breweries, a handful of colleges, and tourism. The entire place runs on service industries, with the vast majority simultaneously incapable of carrying out the simplest maintenance tasks and completely disdainful of those they pay to do these tasks. Assholes, that is.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            Last time I checked our national grid had enough battery capacity to power the nation for about 5 minutes.

            Choose your final, pre-collapse activity wisely.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              That's barely enough time for one of ENB's OnlyFans videos.

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                *barf*

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  ITL has gone a few days in a row trying to make posters bulimic.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                    Well, we all need to lose weight so we'll be hungry for the bugs they'll feed us later. 😛

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        "Common-sense" is the new euphemism for "socialist totalitarianism."

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          So, like a kinder, gentler USSR?

      3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        The American Public sees rising fuel costs are a big problem and voted to make fuel prices rise higher faster.

        1. Diarrheality   3 years ago

          Fighting fire with bigger, more expensive fire.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Seriously, do you think the average American voter has any idea of how their ballot choices are likely to affect fuel prices, or any other economic parameter?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      "the American Farm Bureau Federation calls on the Biden administration to bring more domestic supply online"

      Sounds like the AFBF continues to be a champion of free markets.

  18. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    15 paragraphs about teenagers goofing off on a message board.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      The point was the sentences "Blue checkmarks on Twitter previously signified that an account holder's identity had been verified" and "It's a mess". Who cares if the previous verification extended all the way to having a Wikipedia page? The point is now that Musk is in charge, the place is a shit show.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      But they have upset our elites and pose a threat to democracy!

  19. JesseAz   3 years ago

    So ENB wrote an entire article on trills upset at Musk violating the ToS intentionally? These accounts will be suspended. Not sure what her issue actually is. This shit already occurred prior as well. There was an entire market for hacking blue check accounts and doing this. It isnt new except for the fact trolls are intentionally do this under the guise of activism.

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      She also seems oddly concerned with Tesla stock price. Look at Meta or Disney. Much worse.

      1. Ronbback   3 years ago

        Yes everyone is shocked that Twitter is letting go of 3500 people while meta is getting rid of 11000. these people don't understand markets and the social media market is flooded and people will start choosing between the assortment. its possible Musk bought high and may lose or he make come out like a rose I don't care either way its his money he can spend it how he likes.

        1. creech   3 years ago

          They apparently don't like the way Musk did it. A columnist today suggested Musk should have jumped in his private jet and visited every office where there were layoffs and told them face to face who was done in 90 days. Maybe META can call each and everyone to visit HQ, using first class plane tickets, to have their hands held and their eyes dried when they get the bad news instead of a bonus.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            As long as he buys some carbon offsets, comrade.

            1. mad.casual   3 years ago

              Also, fly everywhere and fire them face-to-face, but stand 6 ft. apart at all times and wear a mask.

        2. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

          I wonder if Zuk will ask Newark for his 100 million dollars back?

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        All of a sudden, leftists like Jon Schwarz are concerned with how stock holders might view the ideologically-perceived actions of a company's CEO and/or board of directors.

        If we do end up having a hot civil war, it's going to happen because, like the leftists in 1930s Spain, they couldn't countenance any other political views operating in the public sphere. And what Musk is doing here isn't even political, they're just pissed off that their allies aren't in charge of the message on there anymore.

    2. Illocust   3 years ago

      If Musk succeeds, then other companies might change their current policies, and private companies will no longer be an excuse for ignoring government censorship.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        If Musk succeeds…

        How often has he failed?

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          How often has he been an enemy of the regime?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      ENB is a libertarian for establishment law and order.

      1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        She's a FemiFist for Liberty.

  20. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

    "Chief among these is the Senate race between Herschel Walker (R) and Raphael Warnock (D) in Georgia, which will go to a runoff election."

    What a nail-biter. I wonder who will win. The suspense is killing me.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      I wouldn't mind seeing Walker win just to vex Reason's most esteemed economic expert, the Oracle of Dogdick, Georgia.

      #ButtplugIrritation

      1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

        Buttplug certainly does that thing white male Democrats tend to do, where they get especially angry at women or racial minorities who don't vote "like they're supposed to."

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          The DNC as a party hasn't changed their views on race or gender in over 100 years. They finally did convince minorities they should self segregate though.

        2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

          Don't start lying like the Trump Cult does.

          I voted for Kemp. I vote for gridlock in Washington DC.

          Blacks can vote for anyone they want to and I don't care. Rednecks vote for Trump - I don't care.

          Of course most are guilty of groupthink. Every MAGA male I know in Georgia is a redneck. All the pointy-head whites buck that rule.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            OK, but your comments on Walker say otherwise.

            BTW, didn't you get yourself banned here a couple of years ago for posting dark web links to child porn?
            Oh, that's right, you did.

            #TurdLiesAboutAnything

          2. Sevo   3 years ago

            turd lies; it’s all he ever does. Turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          3. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

            "I vote for gridlock in Washington DC."

            Except when you don't. With Biden in the White House you'd want a Republican Senate. Instead you voted for Warnock.

            You claimed Walker's NFL brain damage was the motivation, but there's an element of how DARE you step out of line! in the way you often talk about black Republicans.

            1. Sevo   3 years ago

              At least he's not a talk-show host, right?

            2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago (edited)

              A GOP House is sufficient for real gridlock.

              Besides, I am an old fashioned ACLU classic liberal (not the new woke ACLU) and I don’t like Aborto-Freak reactionary justices.

              The reactionary Federalist Society activists have killed Roe and will soon kill Griswald, Lawrence vs Texas and the Alabama ruling that rightfully prohibited forced school prayer.

              US conservatives are no different than Iranian or Afghan conservatives – their idea of education is pounding religious indoctrination into the soft heads of children.

              Yeah, I want classic liberal justices – not Wahhabi justices like those Federalist types.

              I am a liberaltarian – not a conservative. You should know better.

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                It’s sad you imagine anyone believes your lies.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                  This is why libertarianism is doomed.

                  You can't let go of the social issues. The world is growing more secular each year.

                  There is no place for the Quran/Bible in a rational society.

                  1. Sevo   3 years ago

                    That was posted by turd; it's a lie.

                    1. R Mac   3 years ago

                      It’s not even a coherent lie.

                    2. Sevo   3 years ago

                      A stupid liar.

                  2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                    "There is no place for the Quran/Bible in a rational society."

                    >"HAHA SKY WIZARD!"
                    >"DUDE WE TOTALLY LIVE IN A SIMULATION LIKE THE MATRIX! SCIENCE RULES!"

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Remind me of a theocracy, Shrike, that matched the worst excesses of officially atheist governments.
                      I don't think even the Aztecs relatively matched the death toll of China, the Soviet Union, Cambodia, Romania, etc. Even Mexico under atheist Calles regime in the 1920's was utterly brutal.

                      People like you in power always mean death.

                    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                      It's the real issue.

                      You're a conservative. I am a John Locke classic liberal.

                      Does it offend you that Thomas Jefferson cut out what he considered the ridiculous parts of the New Testament?

                      Serious question. I think he made the New Testament into a philosophy instead of a myth.

                      Don't parse words.

                    3. Sevo   3 years ago

                      "Don’t parse words."

                      Don't forget turd is a liar, but he makes up for it by being an ignorant piece of lefty shit besides.

                    4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Shrike: "There is no place for the Quran/Bible in a rational society."

                      Also Shrike: "Thomas Jefferson cut out the ridiculous parts and made it into a philosophy instead of a myth."

                      And then: "Don’t parse words."

                      Lol.

                      Also, I guarantee that you have not read either the New Testament or Thomas Jefferson's revision, aside from some noncontextual clips in the Skeptics Annotated.

                      And again, Remind me of a theocracy, Shrike, that matched the worst excesses of officially atheist governments.

                    5. R Mac   3 years ago

                      Keep going shrike! This thread is doing wonders for your credibility.

                  3. Zeb   3 years ago

                    There is never going to be a rational society. That's not how people are.

                    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                      People? It's not just people. This statement is a lie.

                    2. Zeb   3 years ago

                      Wha?

                    3. R Mac   3 years ago

                      Why does Zeb hate furrykinds?

                  4. JimboJr   3 years ago

                    Those super rational, hyper-secular folks are most likely to be wearing double cloth masks that have no evidence to support them, and getting 4-5 boosters for a disease that poses an infinitesimally small risk to them.

                    Ya, I would say the new enlightened secular folks are every bit as religious/superstitious/magical-thinking as any religions ive seen

                  5. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

                    There is no place for child pornography in any society, shreek. So would you like to move away peacefully, or with your blood draining out of several holes?

              2. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

                You are a radical Marxist pedophile who got banned for posting dark web links to hardcore child pornography. Keep your pedophile cockholster shut, shreek, and watch your back.

          4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

            Pedo hates that uppity Walker because he can't stand the idea of a black man thinking for himself. Democrats believe they own black people. That was their position when the party was founded, it was their position in 1860, and it hasn't changed since.

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago

              Brain damage is the only reason a black person would vote GOP. Ask any Democrat like shrike.

          5. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

            Hey shreek, remember how you posted dark web links to hardcore child pornography at Reason.com and got your original Sarah Palin's Buttplug account banned? And then spent years lying about it? Kind of like how you lied about paying off your bet? Keep your pedophile cockholster shut, cunt, before somebody shuts it for you.

  21. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    More than 100,000 Russian troops have been killed or injured in the war in Ukraine, according to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley.

    how would he know?

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      The Chinese told him.

    2. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      He awarded another medal on himself. The last one said "Continued on Back".

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      How many dollars per death with the 66 Billion we gave Ukraine?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        You think we should have offered Russian troops $500,000 each to desert, and saved some money? (or given the balance to Hunter?)

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          And 10% to the Big Guy?

    4. damikesc   3 years ago

      Well, he is tight with China (offered to commit treason on their behalf) who is tight with Russia.

    5. creech   3 years ago

      The U.S. perfected body counting back in Vietnam.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A 1978 law meant to keep adopted Native American children with their tribes when possible is being challenged in the Supreme Court.

    How could 1978 foresee that the idea of doing everything to keep them on the reservation would be problematic one day.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Just another important anti-racist strategy.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    President Joe Biden says the government should investigate Elon Musk's ties to foreign countries.

    The Big Guy has spoken.

    1. Ronbback   3 years ago

      Didn't they try to impeach Trump for trying to do the same thing. makes one wonder if there are different rules for different parties

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        There are at Reason, do you expect 20 Sullum articles on the issue here?

      2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        Trump was trying to get the _Ukraine_ government to investigate a political opponent, and withholding Congressionally-approved military aid as the stick to get them to do it. If you gloss over those differences, then, sure, exactly the same.

        And, no, I didn’t defend Biden just now, so don’t lie and say I did.

        1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

          And, no, I didn’t defend Biden just now, so don’t lie and say I did.

          You lied about something that Trump never did, that Biden actually did, and admitted, proudly, on video. Even if you weren't defending Biden, which you absolutely and unequivocally were, you're still a lying piece of shit, Episiarch. And you always have been.

          1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

            Bah bye

  24. T.H. Steady   3 years ago

    "Impersonators Are Already Running Amok Under New Twitter Rules.."

    Suddenly, the libertarians at Reason have dropped the "Twitter is a private company and can do whatever it wants" line that appeared in every single article about the site.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      The richest man on earth has no idea what he's doing when it comes to business, says journalist.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        ENB's an "editor". That's obviously worth more than just a mere "journalist".

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      It's still there, but now it's accompanied by a lot of throat-clearing.

    3. Minadin   3 years ago

      Not only that, but these Twitter trolls are not doing this 'under new Twitter Rules', they are doing it in direct defiance of Twitter rules.

    4. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      Funny, I don’t see where ENB says the government has to step in and control Twitter. Is it like seeing the fnords?

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Caw caw!

  25. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    Why are progressives silent on violence against women? Because it hurts their pro-criminal agenda
    https://nypost.com/2022/11/06/why-the-progressive-silence-on-violent-crime-against-women-because-it-hurts-their-pro-criminal-agenda/

    The horrific rape and near-strangulation of a tourist jogger on Manhattan’s premier West Side pedestrian promenade Thursday should have shocked New York’s progressive faction. A woman ought to have the right to exercise in a public space without fear of grievous sexual assault. Instead, progressives were silent — but it’s part of a pattern: They’ve remained quiet as mice even as deadly attacks against women have soared this year.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   3 years ago

      They will demand something be done as soon as it is a white man doing the attacking.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        It would help if they published the n-dimensional intersectional score card so we know the victim-oppressor status for these things.

    2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      Isn't this the equality they've always demanded? Increasing violence against women decreases the gender gap in victims of violence crime.

  26. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

    Oh good, just in time for the Christmas shipping season.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/railroads-union-extend-strike-deadline-until-least-dec-4-2022-11-09/

    A group representing major railroads and a union that voted to reject a new contract said Wednesday they had agreed to extend a potential strike deadline until at least Dec. 4.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Is there another election on Dec. 3?

  27. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    They married the State and fully support their abusive husband.

    https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1590666473290153984
    Politics is polarising not just by class, or Right & Left alignment, but also sex. Unmarried women dominate the progressive side, a fact that’s inciting increasingly visceral hatred elsewhere. This should worry anyone who cares about our common future

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Every religion needs a corps of virginal women married to the Dear Leader.

    2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      Credentialed, unmarried, white women are the scourge of our time. Angry, screeching godless church ladies rule us with an iron fist.

    3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      What role does the pill play? If I remember rightly, aren't you hormonally simulating pregnancy when you're on it? Doesn't it lead to an aversion to risk and a desire for protection?

    4. Ignore me!   3 years ago

      Spiritual heirs of the White Feather Brigade.

  28. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

    The Left whines that abortions might be curtailed while this is going on.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/10/middleeast/taliban-restricts-women-parks-intl/index.html

    Afghan women were stopped from entering amusement parks in Kabul Wednesday after the Taliban’s morality ministry said that there would be restrictions on women being able to access public parks.

    A spokesperson for the Ministry for the Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice (MPVPV) confirmed that women would be restricted from accessing parks when asked for comment by Reuters, but did not respond to requests to provide further details.

    It was not clear how widely the restrictions applied or how they affected a previous rule from the MPVPV saying parks must be segregated by gender and certain days would be aside for women.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Tunnel of Love hardest hit.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Now it's a favorite of Buttplug's. 😉

        1. Sevo   3 years ago

          Only on kiddie day.

  29. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ClimateDepot/status/1590286690928951297

    ‘Climate change denial deserves the death penalty’ – Activist takes his message to Egypt summit | Climate Depot https://

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      People arguing that free speech deserves the death penalty need to be lined up against a wall and shot.

      1. Minadin   3 years ago

        They should stand up for what they believe in. Literally.

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      And the watermelons continue to claim this isn't a religion.

    3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      That's where Hitler made his big mistake. He should have said he invaded Poland to stop Climate Change.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        On bicycles and sail boats.

  30. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Impersonators Are Already Running Amok Under New Twitter Rules

    Impersonators suck. I'm glad Reason finally fixed that problem. Funny how people on this board think the people being impersonated were the impersonators. That or those people are dishonest pieces of shit who know exactly what was going on. I'm going with the latter.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      Tulpa hardest hit.

      What name does he use these days?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Speak for yourself and your sock(s) here.

        #SoCkSoCkPeDo

      2. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd posted that; it's lies.

      3. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

        What happened to your Sarah Palin's Buttplug sock, pedophile?

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Do you have a citation for what you believe people think? Are you still upset at Mike for being one of the primary people cloning names? Or just being the usual hypocrite?

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Mike’s the only person that cloned my name. Luckily he had the high moral ground of teaching “Tulpa” a lesson. Hypocrite sarc doesn’t care about that though.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          He did it for good reasons.

      2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        When people like you and your buddy ML insist that I'm the impersonator, even when Tulpa brags about it, I can only conclude that y'all are stupid or dishonest. Since you're not stupid...

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Is sarc admitting he’s a Mike sock, or day drinking again?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            Day drinking again. But, what else is new?

        2. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

          No one bragged about stealing your handle, you lying drunken piece of shit. You got caught socking. Multiple times. 4 years ago. Take the L and give it a fucking rest. Have another gallon of plastic jug Great Value vodka and tell us all about how you wuz haxxed again.

    3. Cyto   3 years ago

      I used to really enjoy the humor.

      Celebrities like Madonna popping in to describe how a policy made her feel like a Virginia, or God himself opining on calls to war - it was a simpler time.

      Would it really be all that much worse if Jeffrey Epstein popped into the discussion from time to time to remind us that he did not commit suicide? And then an anonymous Billy C. could reply "thanks for the lift!".

      You know, for old times sake.

    4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      "Funny how people on this board think the people being impersonated were the impersonators."

      Sarcasmic's doing some obvious ass covering here:
      1. When White Mike was stealing nicks to "teach people a lesson", Sarc was all for it.
      2. When Sarc was embarrassed about the shit he said in a previous days drunk posting, he'd insist Tulpa hacked him.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        ML's superpower is lying.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          What lying Sarcasmic? You've made this claim three days in a row, and every time I've demanded an example, you've run away.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            You're the accuser. Why don't you switch the burden of proof? Oh, you just did.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              Sarcasmic: "ML’s superpower is lying."

              Me: "What lying Sarcasmic? Give me an example."

              Sarcasmic: "You’re the accuser. Why don’t you switch the burden of proof?"

              It's like arguing with a fucking cartoon.

      2. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

        What is especially humorous about your dishonesty is the fact that when you mute “sarcasmic ” and find other impersonations get muted, you lie and claim I’m the impersonator. As if I would impersonate myself. You’re not an idiot. So the only explanation is mendacity.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          You devious little shit. I'm saying if I mute your post right here, the others disappear too.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            Try it. Seriously. Nothing will disappear except sarcamic.

          2. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

            Go back in time and mute the sarcasmic that caused other handles to be muted. It won’t mute this one.

            But you won’t. Because it would shatter your narrative. You’d have to admit to being wrong. And you’d rather die than do that.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              Poor, poor sarc.

            2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              What's really funny is that you're going to do this. You will look back on the comments. You will see the same account impersonating me and others, but never muting this account.
              The hilarious part is that you will still insist that the people being impersonated were the impersonators. Like I created other sarcasmic accounts to impersonate myself and others.

              You have too much invested in this.

              You can't back down.

              You can't admit to being wrong.

              And you will never apologize. Not man enough.

            3. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

              He already did. It mutes you. And your socks. You also outed your Sqrsly handle long before the mute function. Take the L you drunken piece of shit. It was years ago. We all know your stable of socks very well.

          3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            Tell you what. Mute a sarcasmic post that mutes this one and other handles. Do it. That will be your proof.

            Post a link.

            Thing is, you can't because it doesn't exist. Like all those posts where I praise Democrats. They only exist in your mind.

            You will never do this because then you'd owe me a big apology.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

              As I said before, I forgot the password for the email I used to create this account. I can’t change my nick because I can’t respond to confirmation emails. Even if I wanted to I can’t.

              Edit: but that won't stop you from searching.... lol

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                Hoe’s mad.

            2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              https://reason.com/2021/09/13/house-democrats-tax-bill-lavishes-subsidies-on-local-news/?comments=true#comment-9100935

              1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                Some Sarcasmic gems of yesteryear:

                "I had CPS called on me because I said sometimes dragged my kid’s feet off the bed to get her to get up. CPS said it was reported that I was “Laying hands on my child in a concerning way.”"

                "Girls who dress slutty and get passed out drunk at parties shouldn't be surprised if bad things happen."

                "LET JESSEAZ AND FRIENDS CUT AND PASTE TO SHOW IM A LIAR ABOUT COCAINE AND CAN’T BE TRUSTED ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE
                QUOTE IT BITCHES!!!!"

                "I think (Sevo) and Nardz... making sweet homosexual love."

                "I was homeless for a half a year."

                "Nothing says liberty like sucking down a scorpion bowl or two while driving home from getting takeout."

                "I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is my circus."

                "I stir shit up. So what."

                "Imagine them jerking off while they talk shit"

                "So there’s a difference between law (what society deems to be wrong) and legislation (rules backed with government force)?
                No way!"

                "I’M EVERYONE AND EVERYWHERE!!!!!!! I DONT EAT OR SHIT OR PISS OR FUCK OR NOTHING!!!!! ALL I DO IS POST UNDER MULTIPLE NAMES 24/7!!! I HAVEN’T BEEN TO THE BATHROOM IN WEEKS!!!!"

                "But please keep projecting. My lurker friends get a good laugh out of it."

                1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  I have links for all the above statements, sarcasmic. They all checked out as you.

                  Because Reason will only allow two links at a time, tell me which ones you want to challenge, and I'll post the links for them.

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    This is going to be embarrassing for sarc after chasing you around the site all day.

                  2. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

                    It's funny how he's now claiming he can't even log into the email he used to create his account when he insisted he was hacked and had to take back his account from the nefarious hacker who posted all of those embarrassing personal confessions that he now claims he never made.

          4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            I'm 100% confident in this. Search all you want. Go back into the archives. There is only one me, and muting me mutes only me.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJO5HU_7_1w

          5. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            I'll give you until the end of the year. Most of two months to find a post where muting me mutes another handle.

            And when you can't find it you owe me an apology.

            HAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAA HAA HA HA HA!

            I'd never mistake you for someone man enough to apologize. That would be really fucking stupid on my part.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              “I’ll give you until the end of the year.”

              Shit. Faced. Raging.

            2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              I rechecked. All the crazy posts were you. I don't know where to start.

    5. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

      Funny how you got caught socking and you're still lying about it like a pathetic faggot 4 years later, Sqrsly.

  31. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

    My advise to you: Get off Twitter.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      At least stop getting off on Twitter.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        Is Elon Musk unbanning porn? I just might have to check out this "Twitter" website after all

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          Can't wait for the ENB Reason Roundup on that one.

    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      Why? It’s more entertaining than it has been in a long time.

      1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

        Watching you bitch and cry like a faggot is pretty entertaining, Episiarch, but it's just another day that ends in Y.

        How come you keep returning 6-7 hours after the thread dies to corpsefuck it? You know that nobody besides me reads your bullshit, and I'm just going to stuff it up your faggot ass until it's coming out your nose.

  32. Jerryskids   3 years ago (edited)

    President Joe Biden says the government should investigate Elon Musk’s ties to foreign countries.

    No, we all heard what he said. What he said was, “There’s a fly in my horseradish and I uh, uh, think, look, here’s the thing……(long pause)…..well, what we have here is, let’s say you have two bicycles and uh, uh, …..(long pause)……what I’ve said before is that you can’t get tomato soup out of a radish, or a radish out of a radish, you can’t get a radish out of a can of uh, uh, soup or fledishmentgrplned, no joke, uh. uh. …..(long pause)….. but look, Jack, here’s the thing, God’s honest truth, I think we’re going to see stamp prices go up a little next year, just a little. not much at all, basically flat, so no inflation to speak of, and President Harris has already said that’s built into the bathwater, or the baby with the bathwater, I should say, so I think that’s where we stand right now in relation to Pope John, or I guess the new Pope, whoever that might be.” And then he shit his pants and fell off the stage.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Lol.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

      C'mon, Man! No Jello Pudding, Boost, or Hoveround in the skit? 😉

  33. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    Who could have predicted that giving everyone an amplified voice would lead to a shit-show? Did anybody promoting social media ever think "yeah, we know that every doofus and nut job can post what they want, but most of them will resist until they have something to post based on substance and reason"?

    1. American Mongrel   3 years ago

      I think we didn't truly realize how insane the average person was. At least when posting anonymously..

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Like in a voting booth?

        1. American Mongrel   3 years ago

          Lol yup

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Any time spent on Usenet might have told someone that. It was obvious since at least the mid-1990s. Sqrlsy is mild compared to some of them.

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Still better than having elites think whose voices should be amplified.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Yup.
        Rather every voice be heard than only the politically connected and powerful.

  34. Spinach Chin   3 years ago

    Imagine being so dumb that you think Tesla stock value dropped because of the blue check thing.

    1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      Strong correlation between that group and thinking social media has any significance -that it's the real world. Pretending twitter is not mostly spoiled, affluent dickheads who from their ability to post & reply, don't work very hard, says quite a lot.

      1. Cyto   3 years ago

        At the same time, most Americans get their news from social media these days.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          With the shit propaganda spread by most of the mainstream media, I can't imagine why.

        2. Personcommenting   3 years ago

          I think that statistic has some definition flaws. If my friend shares an article on facebook and I click and read the article on my local paper's website, did I get my news from social media or traditional sources? If my friend shares an article on facebook that link's to my local paper's website, but I just read the headline while on social media and didn't click the link, did I get my news from social media or traditional sources? If you view yourself as getting your news from Reason, but Reason often uses Twitter posts in their articles, are you getting your news from Social Media?

      2. Spinach Chin   3 years ago

        "Twitter is not real life" is what I tell people like that.

        I cannot express how much contempt I have for people that think a guy worth almost a quarter of a trillion dollars is a bad businessman.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      They could ask a famous economist, like Paul Krugman. Or AOC.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Not the Oracle of Dogdick, Georgia?

  35. Fetterman's Hump (formerly Ecoli)   3 years ago

    1. I need a blue check mark for my hump.
    2. It is gonna take a while to unfuck twitter.
    3. Nothing wrong with parody and satire. Fraud is problematic.

  36. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

    The Twitter situation kind of reminds me of New Coke, it took three months to go from New Coke back to Coke Classic. How long till we get Twitter Classic?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Never. "Classic" Coke was formulated with HFCS instead of sugar as it had been before. It's still changed, permanently.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Iowa approves.

    2. Dillinger   3 years ago

      I liked New Coke.

      1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        Snort.

        1. Utkonos   3 years ago

          Nice line.

    3. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

      How long till we get Twitter Classic

      This is Twitter Classic. Twitter didn't introduce censorship and start colluding with government until just a few years ago. Take the L, shreek. Better yet, take a gun, put it in your mouth, and pull the trigger, save some poor 8 year old boy's father the trouble.

  37. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

    Seems as if biden's suggestion that federal investigation of musk would rate higher than the oh-woe-is-me schadenfreude masturbation over musk's bluecheck policy. That would certainly be the case in a libertarian publication. The same publication would also stop insisting that polis is a champion of individual liberties -he is not. His positions make him an apparent member of the same left-leaning in-group as the majority of reasonmag's staff, who work at a magazine that touts itself as libertarian.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      Has anyone else noticed that a bunch of people have been posting on this libertarian site for the last couple it years about their belief that there is a notable lack of libertarian thought being expressed by the staff here?

      It must be some sort of right wing conspiracy.

      1. DesigNate   3 years ago

        Anybody who suggests that Reaaon doesn’t really make libertarian based arguments is a right wing Trump supporter.

        1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

          An insurrectionist even? I do understand that reasonmag is trying to compete, drawing in clicks & eyeballs from social media w/ this teen vogue hormone bs. That said, the number of stories, and low percentage of news focused on civil liberties and individual liberties here is a bit kooky.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            BUT KARI LAKE’S HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS SAID SHE’S CHANGED!

          2. DesigNate   3 years ago

            At least insurectionist adjacent.

            I wouldn’t mind the teen vogue style if they were trying to push libertarian ideas that way.

  38. Jerryskids   3 years ago

    I don't see why Walker vs Warnock in Georgia's senatorial race is such a big deal - they're both black and isn't one black man just the same as any other black man? I know Hispanics have variations in their cultures depending on where their from, but blacks are all alike. Or so I've been told.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Skin color is the most important thing

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      They're playing for different teams.

      It's all about football in the South.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Yes, and you've chosen the team that keeps them on the plantation.

      2. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd lies; that's a lie.

      3. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

        Remember how you posted dark web links to hardcore child pornography and got your original Sarah Palin's Buttplug account banned, shreek? It can't be ALL about football in the south as long as you're still living in Dogdick Georgia. It's partly about pedophilia and child pornography too.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      All black men look alike. Hispanics look like tacos.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        *breakfast tacos.

    4. Personcommenting   3 years ago

      What the World Series taught me was not all black people are Blacks. Only Blacks that were born in one of the States of the United States are alike. black people from other countries are not Blacks.

      https://www.outkick.com/ap-obsesses-over-race-due-to-lack-of-black-players-in-world-series/

  39. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    Psssst. They want to fuck your 8 year olds.

    Professor says monogamy culture is ‘romantic capitalism,’ rife with possession and hoarding
    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/09/professor-says-monogamy-culture-is-romantic-capitalism-rife-with-possession-and-hoarding/

    1. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

      ...I find that even those folx who believe in freedom for all people or who have read all the Black Feminist books about community and kinship struggle with hoarding affection and care.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Good to know that those urban gang bangers have academic grounding in their quest to overcome monogamy culture.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Buttplug approves.

    4. Bill Dalasio   3 years ago

      I've always said that incelism is socialism applied to the field of sex and romance.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago (edited)

        No, socialized romance would mean government-assigned partners and official (if rationed) sexual encounters. Imagine street prostitution administered by the DMV.

  40. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

    I look forward to watching whether Elon Musk can profit with a Twitter without advertisers (other than miracle nutritional supplements; magic pain relievers; downscale pillows; and reverse mortgagees), college graduates (beyond Liberty, Regent, and Ouachita Baptist grads), residents of successful and modern communities, and mainstream businesses.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      $8 a blue check? It's a steal there, Rev, you know that. Even a piss poor editor of a podunk town newspaper might be able to afford that.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      Twitter wasn't making a profit WITH advertisers, you slack-jawed, slope-foreheaded hicklib. It lost over $200 million last year.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Maybe the Twitter staff should have been actually trying to make the company profitable by selling blue checks as a service instead of doing it under the table for favored individuals.

        1. CE   3 years ago

          Why not auction off screen names to the highest bidder?

      2. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

        If Twitter didn't profit when it had advertisers, what are its prospects after Musk drives advertisers (and college graduates, and mainstream companies and organizations) away?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Why were your allies so fucking incompetent at making a profit for the central clearinghouse for your ideology, you slack-jawed, slope-headed hicklib?

          1. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

            The central clearinghouse for my ideology is America's strongest research and teaching institutions; its foremost cultural assets; and its strong, educated, modern communities.

            Clingers get dozens of slack-jawed, fourth-tier religious schools; drawling/twangy music; and our desolate, can't-keep-up backwaters.

            Carry on, clingers . . . but only so far and so long as your betters permit.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

              Yeah, that's why your side has had an absolute shitfit about Twitter the last two weeks.

              If Twitter dies, people will thank Elon for killing one of the most cancerous faggot sites on the internet.

              Cope on, hicklibs...but only until you get your own repressive tolerance shoved down your throat at 3000 fps.

            2. CE   3 years ago

              You misspelled "The New York Times".

    3. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

      Oh no Art. Your parody character is breaking down again.

      Just as your insults aimed at Cotton (and Cruz and Hawley and DeSantis and Massie...) reveal you don't actually care about formal academic credentials, your insults aimed at the richest person on the planet reveal you don't actually care about financial success either. When you discard those values so easily, while pretending Joe freakin' Biden is an impressive person, the gimmick falls flat and all that's left is a generic Democratic attack dog.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Arthur L. Hicklib remains forever compensating for his trailer-park upbringing, HnR's eternal Mumm-Ra recoiling in fright at the horror of his own reflection.

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

          It's just such an easy mistake to avoid. Obviously most targets of Democratic wrath don't have the academic credentials of Ron DeSantis. Or the wealth of Elon Musk.

          For this small subset of Republicans or Republican-leaners, just change up the language a bit. Maybe something like "Ron DeSantis is clearly smarter than Biden, I just don't want him to be President" or "I'm not sure what Elon Musk is doing, but then again his net worth is orders of magnitude larger than mine so his business brain has served him well in the past."

          1. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

            Musk made money with government-subsidized businesses; let's see how he does at Twitter. So far, he is wrecking it. Which is fun to watch, because bigoted hayseeds actually thought he would turn Twitter into something worthwhile (by their standards, anyway).

            Turns out, at least so, far he didn't know what he wanted or what he was doing, and Twitter seems adrift and afire, bleeding money and reputation.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

              Which is fun to watch, because bigoted hayseeds actually thought he would turn Twitter into something worthwhile (by their standards, anyway).

              LOL, no, you stupid hicklib, the "bigoted hayseeds" have been having far too much fun watching your side chimp out over their social media safe space getting wrecked.

              1. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   3 years ago

                The demise of Twitter won't change the trajectory or pace of the liberal-libertarian mainstream's continuing victory over slack-jawed, bigoted, superstitious, worthless right-wingers in the American culture war to any discernable degree.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                  Cope on, hicklib.

      2. R Mac   3 years ago

        Are you going to start a “How To Parody” newsletter?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Genius can be taught, but rarely grasped.

    4. Spinach Chin   3 years ago

      Funny, because neither could Twitter before Musk took over. They were losing millions of dollars per day.

    5. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

      Perhaps you could consult with Elon about this...shoving it down his throat if necessary! Just flourish your cape over any news cameras covering the event!

      Carry On, Klinger! 🙂

    6. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      I look forward to you reliving your childhood stuffed in your school locker.

    7. CE   3 years ago

      Well he just saved roughly one billion a year on payroll costs....

      1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

        Which is 5 times more than Twitter lost last year lol

  41. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    School discipline run amok: A 10-year-old faces criminal charges after a school counselor says he touched her inappropriately during a hug and reported it to the police.

    You'd have to be a fool to put your kid in this system willingly.

    1. Dillinger   3 years ago

      "bitch why you hugging my child?"

  42. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    A 1978 law meant to keep adopted Native American children with their tribes when possible is being challenged in the Supreme Court. "Among the provisions being challenged is one that gives preference to Native Americans seeking to foster or adopt Native American children, which those challenging the law say discriminates on the basis of race," reports NBC News.

    I keep reading the constitution and I still cant find the part where the federal government is granted any authority whatsoever over adoption.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      But more pragmatically, and tragically, forcing kids to stay on dysfunctional reservations, along with other tribal legal and social impediments to leaving, just perpetuates human suffering. All in the name of what? Hyper-conservative traditionalism?

      And I still will never understand the love affair of progressives and Indians.

  43. Dillinger   3 years ago

    >>Predictably, this has already led to a lot of imposter accounts.

    posting online 20+ years literally one person ever has said his handle was his real name.

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

      Speak for yourself. I am absolutely a woman named Sandra.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        And my mother often quietly lamented the shit I did as a teen.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Mine says more than my name.

      2. Dillinger   3 years ago

        lolz ... this dude did first and last and wrote a paragraph at me about how fucking right he was and how his real name was the juice ... or something ... NRO maybe a decade ago

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          "NRO maybe a decade ago"

          That's about the last time I visited too.

          1. Dillinger   3 years ago

            I really disliked the Newt Gingrich takedown.

      3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        If you're a woman, prove it by listing 5 shortcomings of men

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   3 years ago

          They're not tall enough.
          They're not handsome enough.
          They're not rich enough.
          They leave the toilet seat up.
          They won't stop quoting movies they loved when they were 13.

          1. Dillinger   3 years ago

            "seen the new Playboy? Bo Derek's tits! I like sex"

          2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            Ok, those are them. 🙂

          3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            You really are sharp. My sack cloth mask is tipped

          4. Personcommenting   3 years ago

            We will ignore 1 and 2 and forgive 4 and 5 if they have vastly overcome 3. We will ignore 3 and accept 4 and 5 if they don't lack 1 and 2. We will accept 1 and 2 if they get close to overcoming 3 and stop doing 4. If by chance we find a straight man that doesn't do 4 and 5 we make him our friend while looking for the perfect man of our dreams.

            1. Dillinger   3 years ago

              lol love it. "hear that? that was my skull! I'm so wasted!"

            2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              Where was this advice 30 years ago???

          5. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            Watch out. Now that you've outed yourself as female, Sarcasmic's going to start hitting on you.
            White Mike was the closest thing before to a girl, and Sarc was practically humping his leg.

            1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

              sarcasmic doesn't seem much into chicks anymore, unless they're his terrified and crying daughter or his "cunt" ex-wife. He's literally tried to fuck Tulpa, cytotoxic dba chemjeff and Episiarch dba Mike "White Mikey" Laursen.

          6. JimboJr   3 years ago

            I mean if true, I will re-evaluate my stance that women cant be funny.

            You will be one positive data point for your gender, but unfortunately be up against mountains of Amy Schumers and Sara Silvermans.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              Paula Poundstone was funny when she was doing standup shows. Just looked her up looks like she’s doing podcast. Guess I’ll check it out.

          7. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            Voltan: "Wot is THIS?!?!?"

            Dr. Zarkoff: "Humanity!"

            Voltan: "MADNESS!!!"

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 years ago

      I dunno, that rob misek guy sure seems like a real straight shooter. Lol.

  44. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Impersonators Are Already Running Amok Under New Twitter Rules

    That's called freedom of speechifyin'. Build your own twitter if you don't like it.

  45. JasonAZ   3 years ago (edited)

    ENB isn’t even pretending to be a Libertarian. You could see a less progressive roundup at Vox. TDS broke most progressives but apparently MDS has pushed ENB over the edge.

    ENB – just admit it. You’re a far left progressive that loves hookers. You'll feel better coming out of the closet.

    1. Diarrheality   3 years ago

      You’ll feel better coming out of the closet gutter.

  46. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    • School discipline run amok: A 10-year-old faces criminal charges after a school counselor says he touched her inappropriately during a hug and reported it to the police.

    #MeToo

    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

      The kid touched her baby cakes and then the kid reported it to police?

      Catholic Guilt strikes again

  47. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Libertarian Impersonators are already running amok under Reason Magazine's new hiring rules.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Define “new”

  48. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Missed it by that much...

    King County is not the ‘bluest’ big U.S. county, but we’re close | FYI Guy
    Just how “blue” is King County compared with other U.S. counties? FYI Guy digs into the data on the bluest and reddest parts of the nation.

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      I wonder what does it. Universities? Trust fund babies?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        It's a social vector for people who work in tech, which tends to attract social maladapts and idealist control freaks.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      I'll bet that if Chicago were split off from Cook County, they'd leave King County in the dust. It's NW Cook with balances them out.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        It’s NW Cook which balances them out prevents them from catching the road runner.

        FIFY

    3. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      That's why the mail-in ballot fraud is dubbed the King County Gambit.

  49. Don Mynack   3 years ago

    I continue to be shocked how much journos care about Twitter. For the vast majority of people, it's a damn joke, completely stupid, and mostly worthless. For journos - IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON EARTH.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

      They’re practically the only ones on the platform. And 99% of blue checkmarks. Everyone else is a movie actor or sports figure.

      1. Dillinger   3 years ago

        jornohub

    2. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

      It's let "journos" do their job without having to do any actual journalism.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Funny, because the commenters here have been pointing that shit out for a while now.

        1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

          Shreek can criticize Twitter now because SpaceManBad is in charge.

    3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      I was always curious why so called respected journolists would go on Imus. I suspect it was because they had a major outlet on a radio show with a big audience. I think the same thing with Twitter. Even if you think you don't use twitter, you do use it. Look at all the twitter links here in the round-up.
      Now that Musk has taken over I suspect the journos are eyeing other sites to dominate.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        The same reasons legit scientists go on Art Bell/Coast To Coast AM:
        Hot babes

        1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

          I missed that. When did Art Bell or George Noory have hot babes? Furthermore, what hot babes listen to "Coast To Coast AM?"

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            Also, how does hot babes translate to radio?

          2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            Well ok, Barbara Simpson was pretty hot once. And then there was the woman who called in and said she turned into a Succubus at night...she defo sounded like the type one does not kick out of bed for eating crackers.

            Then there was Linda Moulton Howe...she was a certified Spacetrix

            So at least three right there

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      It is (or was) one online equivalent of wearing a COVID mask.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        The Blue checkmark?

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          My blue checkmark protects you. Your blue checkmark protects me.

  50. BLPoG   3 years ago

    I can't believe I read the whole thing.

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Hope you learned your lesson.

  51. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago (edited)

    Hello, I love you

    Won’t you tell me your name

    /Nothing like waking up, rolling a fatty and listening to music from before I was born

    //Anyone remember The Doors?

    1. Dillinger   3 years ago

      five to one, baby. one in five.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        Waiting for the Sun is appropriate for California this last week

        I wonder what ever happened to these guys? Why aren't they doing farewell tours like the nice, clean Rolling Stones

        1. Dillinger   3 years ago

          only Densmore and Krieger got out alive and they don't like each other from what I've heard

        2. Zeb   3 years ago

          I'd see Ray Manzarak, but apparently he died in 2013.

          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            He overdosed on natural causes

            1. Diarrheality   3 years ago

              Yes, 100% fatal.

    2. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

      I had a roommate who thought Morrison was God. Ruined the band for me.

      If you want music to roll a fatty to, try this. It’s The Kills covering Peter Tosh.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv4u6njAZSo

      Edit: Here's the original

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJFRgE4Ywk&t=96s

      1. Dillinger   3 years ago

        I'm like a walkin' razor don't you watch my size I'm dangerous.

        1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          What do you think of the cover?

        2. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

          How was The Cult by the way? I almost bought tickets to see them in Boston, but I had other responsibilities. ?

          Edit: at least I thought you went to see them, hope I'm not embarrassing myself and it was someone else who said that.

          1. Dillinger   3 years ago (edited)

            Kills cover is just fine I’ve heard it before. Different song meaning when a blond girl sings it lol.

            Cult blew it up but the show was too short because House of Blues rules. Ian in his 60s can still sing and Billy is one of the better concert guitarists. Amazing show as always.

            EDIT: In contrast Goose was just here in a different venue and played 8:30 --> 12:30 for $35

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              HOB Rules means they have to shut down by a certain time? There are some venues like that out here I think as well.

              1. Dillinger   3 years ago

                11 usually. Cult was more like 10:30

            2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              When I go to shows at the House of Blues in Boston the city requires that they be done by 11. First time I saw Metric they may have gotten a fine because they rocked a solid two hours after getting on stage at 9:20. Awesome show. Saw them again last week. Same place. But they quit at 11.

              My daughter loves the song "Breathing Underwater" and I knew that was their finishing tune, so I pulled my phone out at the end. Then posted it on YouTube so she could see it. Ever seen "Scott Pilgrim vs The World"? If so you may know the song "Black Sheep." Anyway....

              https://youtu.be/NlvduqiZ_zA

              1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                No, I have never heard of them. The last live band I saw was Alice In Chains with Bush at Shoreline. I don't think they have a shutdown time

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  That dates you, being that I remember where I was eating chicken wings when I heard that Layne Staley had died, and that was a long time ago.

                2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  How was Bush?

                  1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago (edited)

                    They were pretty good. Actually they were very good. They seemed genuinely happy to be on tour. Everything Zen and Machinehead sounded awesome.

                    They closed with Comedown which isn't my favorite song of theirs but it sounded good

                  2. Utkonos   3 years ago

                    I saw Bush in Sacramento way back in the late 90s

                    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                      They didn't seem to have the drug issues that other bands have had. They sounded probably almost as good as when you saw them

              2. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

                You should really abide by the terms of the restraining order and leave that poor girl alone. The court gave custody to her mother for a reason. If she wanted to watch her sloppy drunk child abusing father trying to get his dick sucked in the men's room of a boomer rock concert she'd have asked the state to allow you visitation.

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                  Now that was funny....boomer rock concert...as if

          2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            Did the remaining Doors never think to draft the singer from The Cult? Or Val Kilmer for that matter?

            It would be awesome to hear LA Woman live

            1. Dillinger   3 years ago

              phish covered L.A. Woman @the Forum last October it was good.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                Lemonwheel was better. 😉

            2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

              Ticketmaster says The Doors are touring now … in a Britain.

              A few years ago, when Manzarek was still alive, they were doing shows with someone I’d never heard of as a guest vocalist.

              1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

                >tfw you have nothing to contribute to the discussion but you want to say something cool to impress 60 year old sarcasmic

                Just dress up like his daughter or Lindsay Lohan circa 2004 if you want him to fuck you, Episiarch.

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                  Mike Laursen is Episiarch?

          3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            Manhattan Clam Chowder is head and shoulders above New England Clam Chowder.

            I'll wait while you fish your monocle out of your syrup

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Them's fighting words, bub.

              1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                I think the heaviness of the cream in NE kills the taste whereas Manhattan is more subtle and you get a better flavor.

                I hear lobster rolls are very good

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid.

                  NE clam chowder doesn't have to be heavy. Only contains like four ingredients. Canned clams. Canned potatoes. Canned clam juice. Dairy. Dairy doesn't have to be cream. Can be milk.

                  That tomato-based stuff is an abomination.

                  1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                    It's more like a wonderland of the tastebuds

                  2. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

                    What are the ingredients in a Cuban sandwich?

                    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                      Hot Cuban woman getting it from behind and in the mouth at the same time?

                2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

                  I hear lobster rolls are very good</I

                  Sarc doesn’t know what they cost. He lives in Maine.

                  1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                    He probably knows Hawkeye

              2. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

                Hey remember the time you challenged me, Tulpa and 3 or 4 other people to fisticuffs and then bitched out like a faggot when I took you up on it?

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                  You're on the East Coast?

          4. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

            I almost bought tickets to see them in Boston, but I had other responsibilities.

            Tulpa finally returned your calls and you're waiting around in the men's room of the
            Choctaw Indian Casino where Ministry is playing to a sold out crowd of social security recipients at 3 in the afternoon?

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              Ministry....wow

              1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago (edited)

                He actually, no-shit tried to get Tulpa to meet up with him for a sexual encounter at a Ministry show.

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                  You have said like 3 of the funniest things I have ever read on this site in this thread. I acknowledge your sense of humor

                2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                  Tulpa is a chick?

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        I had a roommate who thought Morrison was God. Ruined the band for me.

        Maybe it was a "you had to be there" situation, but I still can't figure out why he's such an icon; as a Gen-Xer, I remember 60s nostalgists in my class thought he was an icon, but there wasn't anything special about him other than he did a lot of drugs and had a distinctive singing voice. It seems like the only reason he's really well-known is he happened to die of a drug overdose like the rest of the 27 Club.

        1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          aye

        2. Dillinger   3 years ago

          >>as a Gen-Xer, I remember 60s nostalgists

          I'm both. the doors spoke to me. Peter Gabriel era Genesis too I can't sell anyone on how special that shit was.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            I found it tedious myself. A bunch of spoiled kids who bought the narrative about the "Summer of Love, maaaaan" bullshit and didn't really remember or were educated about how violent the late 60s-mid 70s actually were, and how close the country came to actually breaking apart. It was always a bullshit consooooooooomer exercise for kids who didn't really have anything to protest when their dumb fears of nuclear apocalypse came to a crash along with the Berlin Wall.

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              Yes, it was like the Freedom Rock ads sold us a bill of goods about how awesome the 60s were.

        3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

          I think it's more the late Baby Boomers rather than Gen X that Morrison is an icon for. In which case you're absolutely right in that you probably had to be there for the impact.

          By the time we come of musical age The Doors may as well be Creedence Clearwater Revival: Old bands that will never play again.

          Also, he was dead which probably kept him from being an icon.
          I remember where I was when I found out Elvis died. I would be curious as to the demographic that remembers where they were when they heard Val Kilmer died

          1. Utkonos   3 years ago

            I was in summer camp when Elvis died.

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              I had just been at the grocery store with my mom. My dad told us as we were bringing groceries in. At the time I figured he held his #2 in too long and had a heart attack passing it

          2. Dillinger   3 years ago (edited)

            Was in my grandfather’s car on 12th street in Emporia, Kansas when I heard Elvis died

      3. R Mac   3 years ago

        Sublime cover:

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wciw_S3FmaM

        1. Dillinger   3 years ago

          Sublime acceptable at all times.

      4. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

        Man, I guess it's a good thing nobody gives a shit what you think about anything.

  52. Muzzled Woodchipper   3 years ago

    The fuck are you doing, Reason?

    You just wasted hundreds of words about the fucking checkmark at Twitter. Get a fucking grip and write about real shit.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      It's ENB. She's worried that even @Catturd2 now has a blue check.

  53. Bill Dalasio   3 years ago

    The biggest consequence of the election will be the inability to go after the doj and FBI politicalization. And as stated the current powers will be emboldened. Reason will likely be silent.

    And that's the problem. This has been building for a few years now. A lot of people here (the comments) have been screaming about it from the rooftops the whole time. And the response from the staff has mostly been indifference or outright dismissal. There's people rotting in prison for expressing their opinions and the staff here's big concern is that some icky Republican might not include gay sex in the fifth grade curriculum. Well, if libertarianism isn't particularly bothered by the state arresting political dissidents, what the f**k is the point of libertarianism?

    1. mtrueman   3 years ago

      " A lot of people here (the comments) have been screaming about it from the rooftops the whole time. "

      That's not enough. Pseudonymous comments on an obscure internet board aren't going to change the way the show is run. Gandhi and his followers were faced with a lot worse than what you're complaining about, and they made prison time a badge of honor. Skin in the game, is what it's called. Expect Reason to provide us with articles about food trucks. If you want to overturn the powers of be, you and your comrades will have to do that yourselves.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Gandhi and his followers were faced with a lot worse than what you’re complaining about, and they made prison time a badge of honor.

        Ghandi and his followers would have been executed outright if India hadn't been run by an empire on the decline that had been enfused with Enlightenment-era pretenses within its cultural framework.

        1. mtrueman   3 years ago

          If you're not willing to make sacrifices for what you believe, nobody is going to take you seriously. But if you think that reading about food trucks and screaming pseudonymously from obscure web sites is going to get you what you want, I won't stop you.

          There were many activists in India who were killed or deprived of their freedom by the British. Far more vicious than anything happening today in America.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            None of what you wrote here refutes what I said.

            1. mtrueman   3 years ago

              I'm not sure what you mean. The empire didn't get started until the Enlightenment, mid 18th century, and the imperialists were humiliating, killing, subjugating and starving Indians from day one. It was the enlightenment ideology of Europe that went hand in hand with their scramble for colonies and the brutal treatment of the inhabitants of Asia, Australia, Africa, and Americas.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          The Brits were a lot kinder than a lot of the others. The French and the Dutch might have executed Ghandi early on. The Russians most certainly would've. And that's just the West and Orthodox Civs. Some of the others have had a much lower tolerance, say China, Islam, and Japan, for what Ghandi and his followers were doing. So, Ghandi should've been very glad he had the British to deal with. Otherwise, it would've been a very nasty battle for Indian independence.

          1. mtrueman   3 years ago

            "The Brits were a lot kinder than a lot of the others."

            Their upper lips were stiffer too.

            "Otherwise, it would’ve been a very nasty battle for Indian independence."

            It was not only nasty, but lasted a long long time, with millions paying the ultimate price.

            Gandhi is spelled Gandhi. Not Ghandi. Just move the h down three letters and you've got it.

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              It was not only nasty, but lasted a long long time

              Where would historical tabletop wargaming be without Colonialism? We'd be stuck with Royalists vs Roundheads, ACW, and some weird 1812 variants

              1. mtrueman   3 years ago

                "We’d be stuck with Royalists vs Roundheads,"

                America in particular is still stuck. The whole red state/blue state thing comes down to royalists vs roundheads.

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                  Pretty spot on...

      2. R Mac   3 years ago

        Yeah, it’s ridiculous to expect the premier “libertarian” publication in the country to cover one of the biggest threats to liberty in the country by the federal government.

        Now get out there and get attacked by some dogs people!

        1. mtrueman   3 years ago

          The government is playing for keeps. You're playing coz you can't find a girlfriend.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Hey now, don’t tell my wife I’m looking for a girlfriend! Seriously though, what are you doing here?

            1. mtrueman   3 years ago

              "Seriously though, what are you doing here?"

              One of the worst pick up lines.

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                I assumed you were male. Never mind then.

                1. mtrueman   3 years ago

                  "you were male"

                  Were? I've never been anything but male.

        2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago (edited)

          The only platform Libertarians have currently is with George Noory and Coast To Coast AM. It’s like Cryptopolitics…

          “Richard C Hoagland is with us tonight to discuss the Libertarian Movement and how it is connected to the Incas and Roswell…”

          God Bless Art Bell

  54. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

    I had a roommate who thought Morrison was God.

    I bet it was Mother's Lament

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      I made him pay his rent, pick up his empties and eat poutine too. That's why he's still so mad.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago (edited)

        If a Canadian can’t straighten someone out, they are a lost cause

  55. Agammamon   3 years ago

    You know what the problem with Twitter imposters is ENB?

    It's that you're all fucking morons who can't arsed to even glance at the @

    FFS, how many times a week do you get phished?

    1. Zeb   3 years ago

      People having to actually check their sources doesn't seem like a bad thing to me.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      Libertarians for a non-anonymous speech platform!

      1. Agammamon   3 years ago

        The @ is that actual account name. You can't change it. It's already displayed right after your 'handle'.

        'Twotter sucks valls' @whateverman

        The last part can't be changed and when 'nintendo of America' has an @ of 'nintendoofus' or 'Donald Trump's has an @ of 'countdankula' then you should be going 'oh, I don't think these are the real accounts.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          But how do I embed tweets in my article if there's no blue checkmark?

          1. Agammamon   3 years ago

            That functionality will be $4, please.

      2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        It is complexly orthogonal to libertarianism whether a private site wants to allow anonymous handles or not. This very site is an example of people acting like assholes under the cover of pseudonyms.

        1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

          Hey remember how you spent that year trying to get people to come to your Quora fiefdom and nobody wanted anything to do with you, so you had to crawl back here and sockpuppet to get some replies? You should try that again.

    3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      OK, so some random Twitter user who has no idea what a famous person’s account name is supposed to be looks at the @. Then what?

      But it’s not about your take making sense. It’s about signaling group membership by engaging in the ritual of ENB bashing.

      1. Chas Rieu   3 years ago

        Most people are not as ignorant and technologically illiterate as you are, Episiarch. Also even as much of a whining faggot as you are, you're not quite effeminate enough for ENB's taste. sarcasmic's still up for it though, so go climb that mountain.

    4. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

      OK, first time actually *using* Twitter rather than just reading or linking to it. Here we go: So, just like anywhere else on the internet, without even logging in, you can type ‘nintendo’ into the search function, click ‘People’, hit enter, and, like magic, @Nintendo, @NintendoAmerica @NintendoNYC, @NintendoUK, @NintendoVS, appear.... ctrl+f 'doofus' 0/0 results.

      I’d say I’m a tech genius, but my 9 yr. old would feel ashamed if I gave him that little walk through and, even then, he would be ahead of the game for even asking someone else, IRL, “How do I know if @nintendoofus is really nintendo?”.

      “We shouldn’t allow literal retards and jurinalists (BIRM) to testify.” – Ketanji Brown Jackson

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Seriously, hot war with Russia and China. Bring it. I'm not sorry, New Yorkers, Los Angelinos, San Franciscans, Chicagoans, DCers, Philadolphins. I'm a little sorry Texans and Arizonians*, but you're smart and self-reliant, you'll be OK.

        *Apologies for any butchered demonyms. As a native Hoosier, it's all 'Longhorns' and 'Wildcats' to me.

        1. Agammamon   3 years ago

          "Arizonans"

          Otherwise known as "assholes"

          As a popular slogan had it back in the day 'welcome to Arizona, now go home'.

  56. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

    After the GOP drastically under-performed projections, some Republicans are doing some soul-searching. Others are… not:

    Holy Fuck! After two years of supporting lawlessness, nuclear brinksmanship, inflation, overt nepotism, driving the minorities you've attracted to Ron DeSantis (who’s flying them to MV) in droves, crippling energy infrastructure to the point where people are literally freezing to death, neutering children and oppressing girls to the point that even radical feminist lesbians respond with “Uh, wut?”, locking people in their homes, mandating experimental therapies nationwide…

    I guess not having a soul to search and being comforted by the fact that you’re doing what’s unequivocally right and just gets you to sound sleep quicker. Sweet fucking Christ.

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