What Message Are Prosecutors Sending by Charging Paul Pelosi's Attacker With 8 State and Federal Felonies?
In addition to six state charges, David DePape faces two federal charges, each punishable by decades in prison.

In case it needs to be said (and maybe it does), hitting an old man in the head with a hammer after breaking into his home in the middle of the night is a serious, potentially lethal crime that poses an obvious threat to public safety. If that had happened to your father, your grandfather, or your husband, you would expect the assailant to receive a substantial sentence commensurate with his conduct. But if that had happened to your father, your grandfather, or your husband, the assailant would not be facing eight felony charges, including two federal counts, each of them punishable by decades in prison.
David DePape, the 42-year-old man accused of attacking 82-year-old Paul Pelosi at his San Francisco home last week, faces extraordinary charges because his victim is married to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.), whom DePape allegedly planned to kidnap in retaliation for her purported crimes against the American people. Pelosi's status explains why DePape is being treated differently from defendants accused of similar conduct.
Whether you think that is just depends largely on whether you think DePape's political motivation made his actions more dangerous and therefore worthy of especially severe punishment. But if you do not buy that argument, it looks like local and federal prosecutors are sending the message that some crime victims are more equal than others, depending on whether they are related to politically powerful people.
According to the federal criminal complaint and San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins's motion to detain DePape, he broke into the Pelosis' Pacific Heights home around 2 a.m. last Friday, using a hammer to smash a window in a back door. DePape, who was still carrying the hammer, found Paul Pelosi asleep in bed and demanded to see his wife. Pelosi said she was in Washington, D.C., and would not return for several days. DePape said he would wait and indicated that he planned to restrain Pelosi with zip ties so DePape could catch some sleep. He was exhausted, he said, from carrying a heavy backpack. Police later examined that backpack and found, among other things, an additional hammer, more zip ties, a roll of tape, white rope, "one pair of rubber and cloth gloves," and a journal.
Confronted by a terrifying home invasion, Pelosi showed remarkable poise and patience, trying to keep DePape calm for nearly half an hour. He managed to call 911 at 2:23 a.m. after DePape let him use the bathroom, where Pelosi's cellphone was charging. When police arrived eight minutes later, they found Pelosi struggling with DePape in the foyer. The federal complaint says they "were both holding a hammer with one hand," while DePape "had his other hand holding onto Pelosi's forearm." DePape "pulled the hammer from Pelosi's hand and swung the hammer, striking Pelosi in the head."
Jenkins' motion says Pelosi "remained unresponsive for about three minutes, waking up in a pool of his own blood." He was taken to San Francisco General Hospital, where he underwent emergency surgery to "repair a skull fracture and serious injuries to his right arm and hands." On Monday, Rep. Pelosi said her husband "is making steady progress on what will be a long recovery process."
According to Jenkins' motion, DePape made unprompted remarks at the scene of the crime that illuminated his motivation. "I'm sick of the insane fucking level of lies coming out of Washington, D.C.," he said. "I came here to have a little chat with his wife." Regarding Paul Pelosi, DePape said: "I didn't really want to hurt him, but you know this was a suicide mission. I'm not going to stand here and do nothing even if it cost me my life. Hurting him was not my goal. I told him before I attacked him, that he's escalating things, and I will go through him if I have to."
DePape later told police he intended to take the House speaker hostage and grill her about her "lies." If she told the truth, he said, he would let her go. But if she lied, he planned to break her kneecaps. "She would then have to be wheeled into Congress," the federal complaint says, "which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions." When DePape was "asked if he had any other plans," Jenkins says, he "named several targets, including a local professor, several prominent state and federal politicians, and relatives of those state and federal politicians."
In an interview with The New York Times, Frank Ciccarelli, a carpenter who employed DePape as an apprentice for several years and said he knew him well, reported that DePape had gone "down the rabbit hole" of right-wing conspiracy theories. "If you got him talking about politics, it was all over," Ciccarelli said, "because he really believed in the whole MAGA, 'Pizzagate,' stolen election—you know, all of it, all the way down the line." The Times notes that DePape had a blog that included posts "ranting about the 2020 election being stolen, appearing to deny the gassing of Jews at Auschwitz and claiming that schoolteachers were grooming children to be transgender."
The Times describes DePape, who was homeless until Ciccarelli found lodging for him, as "a disturbed man seemingly enthralled by the conspiracy theories that have portrayed Ms. Pelosi as an enemy of the country." Ciccarelli sees DePape's actions as out of character. "He did a monstrous thing, but he's not a monster," he said. "He's really decent, gentle—it sounds crazy to say gentle—but he was a very gentle soul. But he was going downhill. He went down the rabbit hole."
Regardless of his motivation or his psychological struggles, DePape should be held accountable for the "monstrous thing" he did. According to the Justice Department, that entails prosecuting him for violating 18 USC 115(a)(1)(A), which applies to someone who assaults a member of a U.S. official's immediate family "with intent to retaliate against" that official "on account of the performance of official duties." When the assault results in "serious bodily injury," it is punishable by up to 30 years in prison.
The Justice Department also charged DePape with violating 18 USC 1201(d), which applies to someone who attempts to kidnap a federal official "on account of" the "performance of official duties." That crime is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
DePape also faces six state charges, some of which overlap with the federal charges. The state charges include first-degree residential burglary, assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, false imprisonment, and threatening a member of an elected official's immediate family with death or serious bodily harm. DePape faces additional punishment for using a "deadly or dangerous weapon" and inflicting "great bodily injury" while committing that last offense, and the potential penalties for the assault, elder abuse, and false imprisonment charges are enhanced by the infliction of "great bodily injury" on someone 70 or older.
The most serious state charge is attempted first-degree murder, which is punishable by life imprisonment. Prosecutors allege that "the attempted murder was willful, deliberate, and premeditated"; that it involved "a deadly or dangerous weapon"; and that it "inflicted great bodily injury" on a victim who was 70 or older. All told, Jenkins said, DePape faces 13 years to life in prison under state law.
The attempted murder charge seems like a stretch. Judging from the account in the federal complaint, DePape's assault on Paul Pelosi happened in the heat of the moment during their struggle over the hammer. The complaint says DePape "stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the hammer towards Pelosi." DePape "explained that Pelosi's actions resulted in Pelosi 'taking the punishment instead.'" While that indicates the assault was deliberate, it does not necessarily mean DePape intended to kill Pelosi. Even according to Jenkins, DePape said "hurting him was not my goal."
In any case, state and federal prosecutors are charging the assault as five different crimes, two of which hinge on Nancy Pelosi's status as an elected official. They are also effectively charging his break-in as two different crimes: burglary and attempted kidnapping of a U.S. official. The latter charge likewise is possible only because of Pelosi's position.
The state and federal charges involve somewhat different elements and two levels of government, which dooms any argument that the dual prosecutions violate the Fifth Amendment's ban on double jeopardy as the Supreme Court understands it. Still, the multiplicity, redundancy, and severity of the charges suggest that prosecutors are trying to make a statement about politically motivated violence amid fears that it has become increasingly likely because of bitter partisan divisions and loony beliefs like DePape's. That statement, aimed at a threat much larger than the one DePape himself posed, is not necessarily consistent with the justice that prosecutors are obliged to seek in this particular case.
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So, it is possible for reason to see the government overreacting and over charging and punishing people who are perceived as a "threat" to the establishment. Funny how that ability goes away when the subject of the January 6th defendants comes up.
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Who hasn't had a hammer wielding psycho break into their home to try and assault/murder them? So unfair that the Pelosi family gets this kind of special treatment. It was a MOSTLY PEACEFUL home invasion.
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Are you nuts? Of course trying to murder the families of lawmakers is an extra crime. What the fuck.
Didn’t the reports say Paul had the hammer? Didn’t DePape not attack Paul until after the police were present?
Imagine having a media that asked questions.
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Pelosi apparently had a hand on it, but it was, in fact, Depape's hammer.
Sorry, not quite buying the "I finally wrestled the hammer free of Pelosi's grasp, and had no choice but to then hit him over the head with it" argument being trialled here.
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If that’s your takeaway from Briggs’ comment you’re dumber than I thought. Or just an establishment tool.
Oh, that’s right, you ARE an establishment tool. Now put your mask back on and stfu.
What Message Are Prosecutors Sending by Charging Paul Pelosi’s Attacker With 8 State and Federal Felonies?
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Here's how the left deals with the possibility of a prole putting feet on the desks of their saints:
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February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Pretty sure turd is down with this also.
And sarc, Dee, and Lying Jeffy.
It’s worse.
The overcharging is designed to produce a plea deal that avoids producing videos and photos of the events from being made available to the public.
The two federal charges are not "overcharging"; they are in response to the very facts which make this incident different from an "ordinary home invasion" burglary.
However, the final state charge mentioned in the article (knowingly and willingly threatening the life of, or threatening serious bodily harm to, any elected public official) arguably overlaps with the first federal charge mentioned. But not completely: the federal charge specifically relates to assaults "with intent to impede, intimidate, or interfere with such official, judge, or law enforcement officer while engaged in the performance of official duties, or with intent to retaliate against such official, judge, or law enforcement officer on account of the performance of official duties".
It is therefore the state statute which creates a "status" crime out of an ordinary crime.
But now you've got to somehow argue that it is the State of California which is primarily motivated by covering up "what really happened" in the Pelosi's house that morning. Solidarność?
Also, possibly a lengthy pre-trial incarceration, which can be risky. Just ask Epstein.
But the prosecutor could become a Law Superstar by not going along with that. You can't bet on lawyer egos 🙂
So where is all the "journalism" about this?
I have read the cops were there in two minutes, and here it is eight minutes. That begs the question of where were the security troops for the speaker's residence? And a good reporter would have found out how many other break-ins there were in SF that night, and what was the average response time for those "ordinary" citizens?
But all we get is the standard right wing conspiracy theory script.
Meh, regardless of my thoughts on the Pelosi's. They deserve protection because of the nature of the job, just like judge Kavanaugh deserves it. Hopefully Nancy will push that bill through the house (not sure if its been done yet) now.
Except the fact that she is so important, and has a net worth over $100 million, means there’s no way there wasn’t security already there.
It may surprise you but, at one time, America's nuclear silos were open to the Domino's pizza guy. In some ways, the levels of security around the rich and famous can be mind boggling, but at the same time, they (and the bubbles around them) are still human. Will it probably remain possible to walk up to the Speaker of the House's house next week? Probably not. But I can totally believe it happened.
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Pelosi's what?
Her home was vandalized in 1/2021 by rent control activists. Real journalists would be asking what security upgrades the Pelosis undertook to prevent a repeat occurrence.
Judging from the account in the federal complaint, DePape's assault on Paul Pelosi happened in the heat of the moment during their struggle over the hammer.
I actually don't know enough. If you go to someone's house, premeditated, explicitly to violently assault them, but the wrong person is home does that not count?
He wasn't working on Pelosi's floor and accidentally swung the hammer into Paul's head. Attacking someone with a hammer is an intentional act, and one very likely to cause death or brain damage. So yes, attempted murder is the correct charge.
i would say assault with a deadly weapon is more appropriate. Murder means he had the specific intent to kill the guy. I don't see any evidence supporting that.
That's where I'm confused. It's a very narrow question, if Attempted Murder is based entirely in Mens Rea, then I suppose it does not apply here.
Yes. Murder is a specific intent crime. You have to mean to kill the person not just harm them.
I think that makes sense, and then makes clear a lot of this article for me since I also have a lot of concern with the low-risk tendency for Prosecutors to overcharge.
Does California allow conviction for lesser (included) offenses?
Assault with a deadly weapon need not involve any physical contact at all. Threats are assaults, and if you wave at or point a gun at someone and tell them you’re going to shoot them, you’re committing an assault with a deadly weapon.
Moreover, the frailty of the person plays a factor. If you’re holding a baseball bat and get into a fight with a NFL linebacker, it may be considered more reasonable than using that same baseball bat on a guy in a wheelchair. Someone the age of Paul Pelosi is much more likely to die in a struggle involving swinging a hammer compared to the average person. Plus, the blows were directed at the head. You can tell me all day long you didn’t intend to kill someone, but if you’re swinging a hammer at their head, you’re trying to kill them, and your intent is inferred through your actions.
Also, overall, fuck this guy.
Also, overall, fuck this guy.
That’s what Paul thought, and now look where we are.
Gotta wonder if that may be why Depape hit Pelosi in the head with the hammer. Maybe he didn't want to make out with Paul.
The question is the degree here, and I think going to an elderly person's house to assault them with a hammer, but not kill them, still feels Attempted Murder-y. And that assault was premeditated, which makes it feel like 1st degree. I'm not sure there is any other type of Attempted Murder. I think if I accidentally clip a guy with a car that's not Attempted Manslaughter. But maybe. I don' t know.
Most of us normal folk see the strong possibility of some Pelosi perversion that is being treated by misdirecting reporters and the public. Why is the Great Unifier going on TV tonight. Bet it is somehow related to this.
"President Biden on Friday called the attack on Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) husband at their San Francisco home “despicable” and suggested it was a natural progression from lies Republicans have spread about the 2020 election."
Any decent normal man would apologize as we know Biden is completely off. But not the Great Unifier.
I 100% agree with the attempt to pin this on Republicans. I think the partisan nature of this is overrated. I think this about the Scalise issue as well, someone being motivated by politics does not make the larger political party responsible. That’s cheap point scoring, but it is also not surprising.
Edit: I rescind this response, because I see this guy is spamming the same response elsewhere in the thread.
Fuck Pelosi - but yeah, the *only* mitigating factor here is that DePape has serious mental health issues.
Once you commit a home break in I don't care if I juries you caused were 'unintentipnal'.
That's kinda part and parcel of committing violent crimes.
That's more a question of what he was charged with. It might actually be bad if they try to prove Attempted Murder and can't because it doesn't fit the definition.
Though they charged him with everything else as well, so it probably is as Naime says somewhere in this thread.
Bs. Paul Pelosi was brain damaged befor the attempted Hamer attack
You'd have to be after being married to Nancy.
Judging from the account in the federal complaint, DePape’s assault on Paul Pelosi happened in the heat of the moment during their struggle over the hammer.
After Pelosi was "allowed" to use the bathroom. I guess after finishing calling the police in the bathroom behind a *imagines* locked door, he... *imagines* left the bathroom, unlocking the door and walking into the foyer with DePape where a struggle ensued.
This.
The story just does not make much sense.
The police report they came on a "wellness check." That they reportedly knocked before entering indicates that assertion is correct.
Is that how they normally respond when a resident calls late at night to report a break in intruder? Really kinda doubt that.
Seems more likely when dealing with a resident calling 911 to report an break in intruder the 911 dispatch would have advised him to lock the door, remain in the bathroom, and stay on the line until help arrived.
And that help would not have knocked and awaited permission to enter. Even if the cops thought they needed permission it seems like the dispatcher could have obtained it from him while he was on the phone.
Alternate theory: Cops were skeptical to begin with and were approaching the whole thing as a possible SWATting.
In the theme of the article: charge with attempted murder plead out assault with a deadly weapon.
This guy seems like a whackjob who got off his meds. I've read elsewhere about him talking to angels in public.
Also, whatever. He broke into someone's home and tried to bash their skull in with a hammer. Yeah, those charges are going to be serious, and it doesn't matter if he says he didn't "intend" to kill someone, bashing someone with a hammer is an action likely to cause death or sufficient injury to turn someone into a vegetable. Throw the book at him, he doesn't really deserve mercy and understanding. He probably needs treatment for whatever mental issues he has, though.
But no charges against the folks monitoring acres of CCTV. That is why I think some perversion is involved. Remember the detail at the Clinton home in NY who let prostitutes pass as instructed by the Pres. Same could be here.
What charges did you have in mind?
Maybe they should be fired. If they hadn't missed the intrusion, perhaps the police would have responded more quickly, and Pelosi wouldn't be in the hospital.
"He broke into someone’s home and tried to..."
He allegedly broke into a home protected by armed security including Secret Service agents.
Something doesn't make sense here.
Mr. Sullum tells us all these extra charges would not have happened if the assailant had attacked one of our more ordinary grandfathers, and then proceeds to undermine his own assertion. Attempting to kidnap a Congress critter is a federal crime any way you look at it. So that's at least one additional charge that wouldn't apply to someone if he broke into my dad's house since my dad is not married to a Congress critter. Moreover the law has a legitimate concept of "aggravated" charges and, although I agree that hate as a motivation should not be one of them, aggravated assault certainly is a real thing.
What's the crime if you attempt to kidnap a governer, asking for a fbi friend of mine
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Of course you over charge - e.g. 250 years if convicted on all counts to ensure a 30+ year sentence when it's plea bargained out; unless he can prove insanity - then it should be 40 years. It's called doing your job and trying to save millions of dollars in court costs - no one is sending a message here.
I have never understood insanity as an excuse for committing a crime. To me, insanity is an aggravating factor, not a mitigating one. If you understood that you were committing a crime, there is at least some chance that you will not commit a crime again after being punished. If you were to divorced from reality to understand that you were committing the crime, there is near zero chance that will understand it the next time ... and the next time ... and ...
using a hammer to smash a window in a back door
A patio door actually, which looks like it was smashed from the inside.
The Justice Department also charged DePape with violating 18 USC 1201(d), which applies to someone who attempts to kidnap a federal official "on account of" the "performance of official duties."
Considering that Nancy Pelosi was visibly and publicly in Washington, DC, this really doesn't make any sense at all. Why try to kidnap her there when she's 3,000 miles away?
And again, not one mention of Shellenberger's reporting/research into Depape.
Considering that Nancy Pelosi was visibly and publicly in Washington, DC, this really doesn’t make any sense at all. Why try to kidnap her there when she’s 3,000 miles away?
Hear me out, though: This guy probably wasn't operating on the highest levels of reality.
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm getting. As I read about it I think the reason we're pushing against the obvious here, beyond the dumb partisan battles that obviously would come from this, is that it scares people to think about how easy it is to murder someone if you want to.
The same thing that scares you is actually the reason I'm optimistic about the world. We interact with people every single day. If someone really wanted to harm you, they could do it before you could stop them. But the overwhelming majority of humans you encounter just want to co-exist with you, so you default to trusting that every person you encounter doesn't want to hurt you.
Unless you're living in South Chicago, there's never any reason to assume violence is spontaneously going to happen.
Correct.
Even there, it doesn't really just happen spontaneously. There's usually a reason for it, even in that case. One gang member sees another and sees an opportunity to kill a rival. To those on the outside, it appears random and spontaneous, with no reason, but it really isn't.
It doesn't scare me so much, as I'm extremely risk tolerant. Also, I just accept death at some point, so that helps. I've noticed a lot of people fear this. A lot of conspiracy theories are, at their core, a way of attempting to refute the idea that small actors and random chance can have significant impact on history.
Considering that Nancy Pelosi was visibly and publicly in Washington, DC, this really doesn’t make any sense at all. Why try to kidnap her there when she’s 3,000 miles away?
DePape probably would have no idea. He's a semi-homeless dipshit living in a storage shed in San Francisco with a BLM and gay pride weed flag hanging on his... residence. Don't try to lay too much logic and motive to DePape's actions or frame of mind here.
Assuming the reports are correct he has admitted he was trying to get to Nancy.
That he missed her by the width of an entire continent does not change the fact of what he attempted.
Given that if the reports are correct, he missed her by the width of an entire content is reason enough to doubt the accuracy of said reports.
OR the certifiably crazy person was crazy and did not think through his actions.
More likely the report is just wrong.
While I remain skeptical of the reporting, and grow ever more skeptical with the refusal to release any hard evidence like the 911 recording, surveillance video, or cop cams it is pretty clear that DePape has multiple screws loose. Either from essential mental illness or drug/lifestyle induced mental harms.
It is not his irrational behavior that I find at all curious.
"Where's Nancy" didn't happen, then...
Gotit.
Sevo should be questioned immediately. He didn't post here all weekend and these MAGA types tend to pal around together. What was he doing Friday-Sunday? This DePape character and Sevo are very similar.
Keep on wanking there, sport. It's not Sevo no matter how much you may jizz yourself over it, pedo.
Empty accusations from the kiddy diddler.
Why Sevo and not Tony, Pluggophile? Bad rentboy dates seem more his MO.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Thanks for the disaffected old white obsolete male right-wing culture war casualty perspective, Mr. Sollum.
Your observations about the attempted murder charge incline me conclude that you not only are not a lawyer but also live in a town that has no lawyers.
You must really be angry and bitter being an out of work small town editor knowing your life is a complete failure.
I'll have you know Art is a Harvard Law graduate.
Unfortunately he slept through every court expansion theory lecture. That's why he shat out this humiliating faceplant: "I wouldn’t mind seeing Judge Barrett confirmed, if only because I believe it would precipitate the installation of four new, better justices during the first half of 2021."
It's now late 2022 and all Biden did was swap one liberal justice for another. Meanwhile the ultimate SUPER-PRECEDENT Roe v. Wade got struck down. What an embarrassing misreading of ACB's impact on the Court from somebody who should know better. 🙁
Art is dumb as a fucking post. And that is consistent with him being a Harvard law graduate. That said, I am skeptical.
That’s why he shat out this humiliating faceplant:
Golden prose.
There was a time when Art would engage. Now he just leaves a lump of shit on the thread and runs away. He doesn't do well with being challenged. Funny that.
He spends most of his time commenting over at the VC part of the website. He's got his allies from the WaPo over there to provide cover for him. Here? Not so much. I mean, who's going to cover for Artie? Buttplug, Sarc, JFreak, White Mike, or Jeffy? You might have 9/10 of a working brain if you put that crew together. Sqrlsy? He's too nuts as it is.
Fuck off and die, asshole bigot. Make your family proud.
Yep, much better than the revered old white precious male left-wing elite insider-trading drunken car-crashing culture war casualty.
"a disturbed man seemingly enthralled by the conspiracy theories that have portrayed Ms. Pelosi as an enemy of the country."
Describes any MAGA type.
So sayeth the Oracle of Dogshit, Georgia, who was banned for posting dark web links to kiddie porn here. And you talk about others being disturbed, dipshit?
But you don't even question the security folks, the many CCTV, the window broken from the inside through which no one could enter.
Disturbed people are routinely stopped from entering almost all high-security places. "Disturbed" doesn't explain why he had no idea that Nancy was not there.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Although I hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like MAGA type DePape has exceeded his authority.
Now do 2016.
"What Message Are Prosecutors Sending by Charging Paul Pelosi's Attacker With 8 State and Federal Felonies?"
That you don't fuck with the nobility.
Want to fuck a politician up? Get a gun and shoot a Republican - that's legal.
Skin colors, please.
The Times notes that DePape had a blog that included posts "ranting about the 2020 election being stolen, appearing to deny the gassing of Jews at Auschwitz and claiming that schoolteachers were grooming children to be transgender."
The first and last definitely win him awards on these here comments. That doesn't count almost murdering a Pelosi. If he got that right he'd have achieved sainthood.
Ideas!
A blog that didn’t exist until the day of the crime.
He was a hippy Nudist activist who flew BLM and Pride flags from his schoolbus home.
And he “broke in” to a house under continuous surveillance and guard by the Capitol Police
Looks like their security wasn't like the movies.
Clearly you aren't familiar with the right-wing political activist docu-drama genre.
I don't think there is any reason to assume his political beliefs were coherent or rational.
No, but great efforts were made to make them fit a narrative
brought to you by the imagination factory @Flowers By Irene
That's true of most of the paleoconservatives here as well.
It's certainly true of steaming piles of lefty shit like you.
Zero-and-a-half for three!
1. The two blogs/sites attributed to Depape did indeed exist prior to the day of the crime. The initial reports stating otherwise were circulated by people who didn't understand how the Wayback Machine works. The sites existed, and there are at least partial public records of their content (in addition to whatever backups the sites' respective web hosts have no doubt since turned over to the police and feds). Frenlyfrens.com was created on September 8, 2022 by someone using the name "david depape" at the same address in Richmond (1822 shasta st) where the police subsequently found evidence of his residence. The WordPress blog attributed to Depape, "God is Loving", has very obviously existed since 2007, and was updated most recently on August 28, 2022. The crime was committed during the early hours of October 28, 2022, which (by my meticulous mathematical calculation) makes your claim completely false.
2. The federal criminal complaint states that Depape lived in a converted garage in Richmond, not in a schoolbus in Berkeley. He may have lived there at one time, but not for at least the last two years--which is how long his actual neighbors in Richmond have known him to be living on Shasta Street. But you did use the past tense, so I'll have to give you some points for historical accuracy and rate your second claim as merely misleading.
3. There is no evidence that Pelosi's San Francisco home is or was under "continuous surveillance and guard by the Capitol Police". As the Speaker was not there, it makes sense for the bodyguards to be where she actually was, not guarding Paul Pelosi (who is not entitled to SS or CP protection). Your third claim is, therefore, also false.
” There is no evidence that Pelosi’s San Francisco home is or was under “continuous surveillance and guard by the Capitol Police”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/capitol-police-camera-feed-pelosis-home-attack-no-one-was-monitoring-rcna55213
Well, since they say they weren’t watching the video I guess you are technically correct.
You forgot "and guard", which, if it has any meaning different from "surveillance", would have to relate to the physical presence of human guards. The Capitol Police were only there when the Speaker was there, so the statement is still false.
Hahahaha! It doesn’t matter now! Sufficient doubt has been cast regarding the MAGA narrative, true or not, that it will not affect next week. Only SF Dem elites love the Pelosis. Maybe if the media had not consistently lied for the past 6 years about MAGA, there would be more traction. Crying wolf now, ooops, too late! Hahahahahahaha!!
No mention of the nudist, BLM, or LGBT activism Sarc?
In case it needs to be said (and maybe it does), hitting an old man in the head with a hammer after breaking into his home in the middle of the night is a serious, potentially lethal crime that poses an obvious threat to public safety.
Out-of-the-gate conflating Twitter jokes about Hunter Biden and open carrying hammers with actually hitting someone in the head with a hammer? Bold move Cotton...
Fuck Pelosi. If he had been killed I'd not cc are one whit.
HOWEVER, the issue is not the charges DePape got for doing this, it's that we wouldn't have gotten the same consideration as Paul.
DePape earned those charges and we should all have that level of consideration be law enforcement.
cc are
Gonna show the hoi polloi, smash the back door, oh boy
Got to sit down, take this pack off my back
Imagination sets in, pretty soon I'm singing
Doot, doot, doo, sneakin' in the back door
There's a giant doing cartwheels, a statue wearing high heels
Look at all the happy creatures dancing on the lawn
A dinosaur Victrola, listening to Buck Owens
Doot, doot, doo, sneakin' in the back door
Tambourines and elephants are playing in the band
Won't you take a ride on the flying spoon?
Doot, doo doo
A wondrous apparition, provided by magician
Doot, doot, doo, sneakin' in the back door
[Guitar solo]
Tambourines and elephants are playing in the band
Won't you take a ride on the flying spoon?
Doot, doo doo
Bother me tomorrow, today I'll buy no sorrows
Doot, doot, doo, sneakin' in the back door
DePape troubles the hoi polloi, sneakin' in the back door, oh boy
Look at all the happy creatures dancing on the lawn
Bother me tomorrow, today I'll buy no sorrows
Doot, doot, doo, sneakin' in the back door
man seemingly enthralled by the conspiracy theories
Supposition.
Worse than that, a deliberate lie. thegatewaypundit.com, which reported this story first, also investigated the attacker’s social media history. He’s no friend of the right.
He’s probably the Pelosis’ drug dealer and they’re hiding the fact. Why else would Pelosi have moved Capitol Police to protect her home in San Francisco, where the city leadership is friendly to her? (Because she commands them and can keep them quiet.)
Yeah, The Gateway Pundit is such a source of factual, balanced, and well-researched information. LOL!
You think The Gateway Pundit is journalism, has integrity, or relies on facts? That says a lot about you.
"You think The Gateway Pundit is journalism, has integrity, or relies on facts? That says a lot about you."
Probably far superior to CNN, lefty shit.
Didn't CNN give Hillary the debate questions prior to the event in 2016? So trustworthy!
“broke in “ lol
Broke his ass.
Most of us normal folk see the strong possibility of some Pelosi perversion that is being treated by misdirecting reporters and the public. Why is the Great Unifier going on TV tonight. Bet it is somehow related to this.
"President Biden on Friday called the attack on Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) husband at their San Francisco home “despicable” and suggested it was a natural progression from lies Republicans have spread about the 2020 election."
Any decent normal man would apologize as we know Biden is completely off. But not the Great Unifier.
Most of us normal people just don’t care about Pelosi’s perversions and wouldn’t waste a second thinking about them. We just don’t like being falsely accused of being responsible for them.
They had to hit him with federal charges because San Francisco would have let him out of jail without bail.
It's funny when progressives use policy openly like hypocrites.
Too bad the DePape wasn’t more verbose:
“ranting about the 2020 election being stolen, appearing to deny the gassing of Jews at Auschwitz and claiming that schoolteachers were grooming children to be transgender, and claiming that Ukraine is a proxy war to cover a money laundering operation, the Inflation Reduction Act didn’t reduce inflation, and that Biden has FUBARRED global energy supplies, Kabul was botched, student loan forgiveness is a political handout, Epstein didn’t kill himself, the FBI manufactured the Pee Dossier, the FBI plotted to kidnap Whitmer, vaccines don’t prevent COVID, masks don’t work, lockdowns don’t work, the 2016 election wasn’t stolen, Kavanaugh didn’t sexually assault anyone 30 yrs. ago, Clarence Thomas isn’t an Uncle Tom, we shouldn’t #believeallwomen, black lives matter is a money laundering front, the NSA is spying on Americans, the DSG was a bad idea, Biden isn’t perfectly mentally sound, Fetterman isn’t fully functional, Hunter bought a handgun illegally, Joe raped Ashley, Trump didn’t put kids in cages, you won’t get to keep your doctor, tearing down statues because people owned slaves doesn’t advance liberty, Jussie Smollett’s story was fake, the Las Vegas shooting isn’t clear cut, the Tuskegee Experiments wouldn’t cure anybody, there actually is a gay agenda, GND/BBB is a WEF plot, Schwab and Soros aren’t radical political activists, Meloni isn’t a fascist, there are good people on both sides, unlimited immigration isn’t an unmitigated good…”
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Wait. Does anyone think the Las Vegas shooting is clear cut? I've never even seen evidence of any possible motive on that one.
I think he is being ironic. Everything in the list is both true and denied by the media.
Yes. All kinds of no-shit, bona fide teachers and school systems flatly stating and actively persecuting parents at PTA meetings... publishing gender-fluid idiocy in order to sexualize children, but DePape mentioning it is a kooky conspiracy-theory “claim”.
Yeah, there are theories floating around out there with video and audio clearly* demonstrating shooting from multiple locations. Close or nearby shooting (ostensibly) from the known perp, and shooting that was clearly* much further away.
My opinion is, these things are interesting and might be worth exploring... but are essentially the seeds of a wider conspiracy theory.
*clearly as one can tell from the audio cues in a cell phone video taken by someone on scene etc.
Actually, exceedingly similar stuff. Multiple other guests registered. Shooter kills self behind locked door, door opens, no one else in the room. Potentially very plausible explanation(s), I can’t imagine hotels in Vegas (or most places) would just allow people to barricade themselves inside, but between actual conspiracy theories and LEO/political obfuscating/CYA, fuck the truth. Only one shooter in Vegas, no accomplices, and he’s dead and DePape espoused right-wing political conspiracies about teachers grooming students.
I suspect that as a general rule, someone who hits an 82-year-old on the head with a hammer is going to get charged with attempted murder, even if the 82-year-old is (say) an average retiree without political connections. If you're looking for political bias in the prosecution, look elsewhere.
I would have paid $10,000 for the local prosecutor to have deferred charges and send *checks notes* DePape into a diversion program with #DefundThePolice stamped across his case file.
using a hammer to smash a window in a back door.
I had heard smash *out* a window in the back door. But I can't keep up with the moving targets on this one.
But the important thing is to act like you know something.
I'm sure you heard it was smashed out. That's a condemnation of the sources you choose to trust for information.
It isn't confusing for people who make better decisions about information sources.
I'll bet your news sources were all-in on the "Paul Pelosi's gay tryst" narrative.
Yep, just look at all that glass "inside":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6vtLgKFX0
Well, I guess we can ignore it, since it's from that right-wing CBS news, right, shit pile?
Nelson is a prime example of why those of us with decent IQ's have come to understand lefty shit-piles, like him, are to be mocked.
Eat shit and die, asshole.
The suspect has already admitted breaking the glass with a hammer: “DEPAPE stated that he broke into the house through a glass door, which was a difficult task that required the use of a hammer,” according to the complaint. “DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE.” The confession debunks the conspiracy theories that Pelosi and DePape somehow knew each other. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-criminal-complaint-against-alleged-pelosi-assailant-debunks-misinformation-and-conspiracies/
I've seen a still shot of this video where glass appears to me to be present inside as well as outside the door--but, hey, I'm no expert on the physics of breaking safety glass, so I will make no conclusion about whether the helicopter video proves Depape broke the glass out, or broke it in.
I'm not sure why you're trying to prove that the glass was "only" outside the house (perhaps you're trying to demonste that the glass doors were not the point of entry?). But, more problematic for you is that there will also be crime scene photos. You're gonna have to claim the police faked them. Get ready...
Yep, nothing as reliable as a police report.
Well, except for an FBI report.
That is how we know Trump was a Russian agent, and the Hunter laptop story was a total hoax.
I would rate SF cops as reliable as WaPo and NYT.
You can, of course, refuse to believe anything not excreted from an approved Alt-Right orfice.
The Steve Bannons and Vladimir Putins of this world are banking on it.
Hey, Nelson! Too hard to look at the link, slimy pile of lefty shit?
He managed to call 911 at 2:23 a.m. after DePape let him use the bathroom, where Pelosi's cellphone was charging. When police arrived eight minutes later, they found Pelosi struggling with DePape in the foyer.
I'll let the quick-witted commenters take a comic stab at this one.
I really wouldn’t give a shit what goes on in the Pelosi household. The reason this isn’t going away is because the media and Democrats just can’t stop talking about it.
But the official narrative is ludicrous.
What's important for Nancy Pelosi to do here, is to reiterate that there is no crime wave. Stay on message. There's an election coming up.
"...he "named several targets, including a local professor, several prominent state and federal politicians, and relatives of those state and federal politicians.""
It'd be interesting to know who the "several targets" were.
That if you're going to crack someone over their dome with a hammer, make sure they're not a relative or member of the Ruling Class?
Or at least make sure your "Suicide Operation" succeeds fully.
At least do the job right
MKUltra, baby!
CA may want to re-think its pro-homeless, emptytheprisons philosophy:
https://nypost.com/2022/07/13/man-who-allegedly-attacked-kim-glass-with-metal-bolt-held-without-bail/amp/
https://www.kcra.com/amp/article/unhoused-man-accused-of-killing-carmichael-man/41455957
"unhoused man", God these people are disgusting. I hate what they do to language and truth most of all.
+1 sobriety challenged unhoused migrant
The word is "bum".
I like how it's so unquestioned that shit like holocaust denial is considered "right wing" and left out there, like that's normal for people not progressive.
Never gets questioned.
Got bless our fourth estate for their fair-handed handling of the political classes.
iGot bless our fourth estate for their fair-handed handling of the political classes.
To be fair, neo-Nazis and holocaust deniers congregate on the finge of conservative politics. The far-out, lunatic fringe, even further into Crazyland than Q-Anon, birthers, and the Trump-won-in-2020 crowd, but definitely the far-right wing.
"To be fair, neo-Nazis and holocaust deniers congregate on the finge of conservative politics..."
Why is it that steaming piles of lefty shit assume the rest of us will accept idiotic assertions as if they were worth more than the steaming pile of left shit offering them?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
>>obvious threat to public safety
no. just Paul.
>>What Message Are Prosecutors Sending
the Elite get to write their narrative. Reason helps.
The more you tell this story, the less sense it makes.
Democrats would have been wise to sweep this under the rug instead of trying to turn this into a national story about victimization of Democrats at the hands of MAGA Republicans, because whatever it is, it’s not that.
And yet the headline list on every news aggregator all parrots the talking point that Republicans are being bullies and this guy was a hard core MAGA head.
Any argument with Hillary's blaming this on Rs is "conspiracy theory" nonsense.
It's working for them. When you own Pravda, you can invent your own reality.
I don’t think it’s working for them.
The narrative has shifted from “radical MAGA attacks Pelosi” to “it is totally not true that Pelosi has a gay lover and you’re mean for even suggesting it”.
Only the echo chamber on the right and those who believe them think that's a viable narrative.
It's an evidence-free narrative, so you have to start from a place that assumes everything about Pelosi is fraudulent and evil to think it's reasonable.
I have no idea what the real story is. I'm willing to wait for information. But as of now it looks like the right manufactured a narrative they liked and didn't let evidence or facts get in the way of pushing their story.
"Only the echo chamber on the right and those who believe them think that’s a viable narrative."
This from a lefty shit ventriloquist's dummy.
Of course it is evidence free. Stories don't have to be true in order to be effective. Just look at the kind of stories Democrats have fabricated, like Peegate, Russiagate, BLM, etc.
I don't think for Paul Pelosi to have a young gay lover is in any way, shape, or form evil. Do you?
You only need to change one word in your last paragraph for it to be correct, Nelson. I’ll let you guess at what it is.
The message:
The famous and wealthiest grifter family in political history, worth hundreds of millions, are idiots, incompetent or both. No private security guard or basic window alarm systems- in the middle of a crime ridden, drug addled city. WTF- you can’t make this stuff up.
How dare they delegate the use of force--and to THEIR government, no less?
Betting Sullum would be dancing a jig had this occurred to a Trump family member.
And now Biden is going to go on TV and give Philadelphia Speech 2: MAGA Boogaloo.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/biden-speech-democracy-dc/index.html
One recent headline in particular that has deeply alarmed Biden and his top advisers: the violent attack against Paul Pelosi last week that authorities say was politically motivated.
The shocking home intrusion and attack on Pelosi landed the 82-year-old in the hospital for surgery, and he has since been recovering from a skull fracture, among other injuries.
Advisers say that Biden felt that it would be important for him to directly condemn these kinds of threats and acts of violence. He will also want to speak directly to election deniers, they said, in an effort to counter, in part, Republican elected officials and candidates who have openly said they may refuse to accept the results of the upcoming election next week.
Not sure how it would take to get me to watch that, but it's more than most people have in savings.
"Philadelphia Speech 2: MAGA Boogaloo"
Excellent 80s reference!
"He will also want to speak directly to election deniers . . . "
I didn't read anything about what he said regarding Hillary or Stacy.
Look at the bright side. Maybe the assailant appeals to the Republican Suprema Corte, they dismiss all the charges on some sort of qualified immunity or piling-up charges theory, and the guy gets a job as a Republican cheerleader bullying pregnant women and elderly gents with a hammer until retirement. Isn't that better?
Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Okay you are a bot right?
It's Hank Phillips by a new name.
The procecuters job is to see justice is done. Pleading out after over charging is the exact opposite. Get your shit together and stop listening to the retards that tell you otherwise
This was meant to be a reply to bond (way far up the comment list)
I notice how the full-throated gay-tryst advocacy that conspiracy-minded paleoconservatives were pushing over the last few days has turned into sly insinuations and “we were just joking” as evidence and reliable sources of facts started coming out.
Weird, right?
"I notice how the full-throated gay-tryst advocacy that conspiracy-minded paleoconservatives were pushing over the last few days has turned into sly insinuations and “we were just joking” as evidence and reliable sources of facts started coming out."
No, as a matter of fact, I haven't.
But I do clearly remember when lefty piles of shit like you had to walk back Russki collusion, Russki hooker, Trump being carted off to jail, Trump's corruption, Trump profiting from being POTUS and many more.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
"Evidence" You mean the 911 call and body cam footage have been made public? Do tell.
Yep. 911 calls are ALL public record.
Release the full tape.
So long as they hide evidence questions will remain.
The steaming pile of lefty shit Nelson seems to have wondered through the comments once, left what possibly other piles of lefty shit would assume to be cogent comments which are either lies or blind assertions, and then wandered off. Perhaps because Nelson is a lying pile of lefty shit and has no evidence for his bullshit?
Yeah, that's looking like the default position. Nelson? Eat shit and die, asshole.
What Message Are Prosecutors Sending by Charging Paul Pelosi’s Attacker With 8 State and Federal Felonies?
These lessons and possibly others.
1, Don’t bother members of the Ruling Class.
2. Especially don’t bother them by hitting them with a hammer.
3. Don’t hit them with a hammer while you and the Ruling Class member are together in a house stripped to your underwear at 0230.
4. Don’t make such an astounding botch of a kinky tryst that the entire Government of the United States of America has to utterly beclown itself telling hilarious lies to cover the incident up.
Sullum, did it not cross your mind that NYT is not known for objective reporting, and given this, any piece that they have painting the guy as only far-right and loony is suspect? The fact that the interviewed 'former employer' happens to use all the current buzzphrases that the orthodoxy and establishment starting from biden down have been using didn't seem odd? Depape may well have bought into more far right ideas recently, this doesn't alter the fact that he also bought into left-wing ideas. If he was truly holding all of these potentially opposing beliefs, then the NYT is, once again, completely full of shit. And as a source that you chose, worthless.
Just the facts, ma'am.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/boss-recalls-david-depape-pelosi-attack/3064437/
Somehow this article doesn't mention he was an illegal alien from Canada
Or that he was a pro-nudist activist.
Both of which pretty strongly undercut the notion he was a MAGA type.
No shirt! Still the guy is clearly into the initiation of force for political or social ends. THAT puts him in the MAGA, Antifa, Anarchist, CPUSA, GOP, Green, SDS, YIP squares on the Nolan Chart--another damn looter.
Of course, if San Francisco actually had sane law enforcement policies, this crime, whatever the details, would never have happened.
See, in a sane city in a sane state, David DePape would have been arrested for his frequent public order crimes, run through the immigration databases, been detected as having overstayed his visa, and been deported back to Canada long ago.
Then we wouldn't actually have any questions about how the hell a lunatic druggie managed to get into the home of the Speaker of the House without being stopped.
It's true. Paul Pelosi would not have been there at all if he'd been in jail for drunk driving as he deserves.
-jcr
Nobody gets jail time for first offense DUI.
...
This was his first offense, right?
It's not about justice, it is about retribution.
"...recall Nancy Pelosi’s own reaction when asked if inflammatory Democratic rhetoric bore any responsibility for the attempted assassination of Steve Scalise and other leading Republicans in 2017 at the congressional baseball-practice shooting: “I think that the comments made by my Republican colleagues are outrageous, beneath the dignity of the job that they hold, beneath the dignity of the respect that we would like Congress to command. How dare they say such thing? How dare they?”
What you won’t hear in the media or see seriously prosecuted is the Democratic violence and threats against Republicans. You certainly won’t see that here on (T)Reason.com Illinois Man Threatened to Kill GOP Gubernatorial Candidate Darren Bailey and His Family(Republican gubernatorial primary candidate Darren Bailey)
Republican Gen. Bolduc Physically Attacked by Individual Outside Wednesday’s Debate
There should be an official scoreboard somewhere to keep track of each team's/gang's/tribe's "hits".
Who do you think is winning that game, by the way?
We should ask Steve Scalise to tally up the numbers
Lawyers.
Hank, you do occasionally make a coherent comment. Unfortunately you tend to go off the rails after about one word or so.
I wonder how the charges against this person compared to the charges levied against the man who attacked Salman Rushdie, Who lost the use of one eye and one hand as a result of the assault he endured.
Good question. To speakers of Iberian Peninsula languages--where Mohammedans ruled for centuries till Charleton Heston shooed them off--that mystical stabber's name, Hadi Matar, translates roughly as "Born to Kill"
Why is Kamala Harris not out there getting this guy released on her no cash bail ideas?
I loathe Nancy Pelosi. And yet I don't have a problem with these charges. Hitting someone in the head with a hammer is the intentional use of deadly force--that supports an attempted murder charge.
This guy deserves at least 25 years for his crimes.
speak for yourself
Isn't it standard operating procedure to load up all the possible charges to try to intimidate the defendant into copping a plea?
-jcr
For the feds, yes.
Why do you think they co-opted "Interrupting an official proceeding" to use to charge people who were simply trespassing on January 6th? It's a completely inappropriate charge, but it has a max of 20 years, so it allows the feds to threaten effectively harmless people into submission.
Yeah, SOP in SF, especially with illegal aliens, has been to cut them loose ASAP.
Or are we not supposed to mention Kate Steinle?
Any information yet on when DePape will commit suicide?
Something does not quite add up. Throwing the book at him will only foster more theories. At this point we really don't know much other than the narrative does not match the timeline and other evidence.
As a skeptic of the corporate media and political class, I hesitate to accept anything they say without scrutiny. Society would be well served if everyone stopped accepting any narrative on face value.
The timeline matches reasonably well, if you still have critical thinking skills and aren't a conspiracy theorist (pardon the overlap).
Still, the multiplicity, redundancy, and severity of the charges suggest that prosecutors are trying to make a statement about politically motivated violence amid fears that it has become increasingly likely because of bitter partisan divisions and loony beliefs like DePape’s.
It’s not about “politically motivated violence”. It’s about “violence against the aristocracy".
"whether you think DePape's political motivation made his actions more dangerous and therefore worthy of especially severe punishment" -- I do. You don't like Pelosi's policies, you campaign against them. You don't use a hammer. Else it's anarchy. It's not about protecting Pelosi personally, it's about preserving our basic political system. Same as with Sirhan Sirhan: he'd have a good case for release after 50+ years, if the murder he committed had not been political. My instinct generally is to side with defendants, but some things are not forgivable, sorry. (Unless the attacker was legally insane, which remains to be determined.)
What's this about the eat-the-rich whack job being an overstay illegal immigrant? Will the Dems demand The Wall be moved to the Canadian border? Will invasion of constitutional territorial limits suddenly become important? And what's that snickering sound coming out of the Governor's Mansion in Florida?
Hmmm...NO alarm system? NO private security? Surely the Pelosis can afford them. Dunno...sounds like two peter pals having a tiff. Something smells mighty rotten here.
A week later, and you still get people like this who swallowed whole the very first tidbit of disinformation published about this case. Amazing how the Internet works!
"CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story misstated what clothing the suspect was wearing when officers found him."
(Source: https://www.ktvu.com/news/alleged-pelosi-intruder-has-manifesto-of-conspiracy-theories-sources)
If it takes 8 minutes to get a police response to a 911 call from Pelosi's neighborhood (and address), that city should be issuing firearms and training vouchers to every resident.
At least now we know where the line is for what it takes for the local DA there to actually file a charge against someone. Hard to imagine as it is that the guy will be found competent to stand trial, but maybe the cops will actually hand him over to ICE since CNN and 12 other networks already flagged him as illegally in the country.
And in a decision that surprises absolutely no one who doesn't have their head so far up their ass they can see daylight, the prosecutor has officially decided not to release the body cam footage or the 911 call.
And the message prosecutors are sending to DePape is "play along with keeping everything quiet or this will go really badly for you."
That's not entirely true, is it? The DA has allowed the Pelosi family to see it and, of course, it will be made available to Depape's defence team when required.
LOL
DePape's "defense" "team": Ixnay on the Indergray (that's Latin, Puttplug)
And since when does the public defenders office assign anyone a "team?"
Yes, public disclosure only applies to the little people. Fuck SF, California, and all of the commie leftists in it.