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FBI Reports Dubious 'Trend' of Rideshare Driver Kidnappings

Plus: Pandemic learning loss, German weed legalization, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 10.27.2022 9:31 AM

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A new low for FBI fearmongering? The FBI is warning people that rideshare drivers may be trying to abduct their kids. The agency reports that there is a "trend" of "criminal actors using rideshare vehicles to abduct minor victims."

To normal people, a "trend" means something that happens with some frequency. And yet the FBI offers no data to suggest that abductions by Uber, Lyft, or other rideshare drivers are actually widespread. Instead, the agency offers three "illustrative examples"—only two of which actually involve alleged criminal activity by drivers. And only one of these potentially criminal cases took place in the United States.

One of the three "illustrative examples" involved a minor who merely used a rideshare service to go meet an unrelated predator. The driver in this scenario had nothing to do with the alleged crime.

Another of the examples given involves a driver in Mexico who allegedly drove off with a child in the backseat after the child's father got out at a flower stand. (The child "found a way to call his mother and provided his location," the FBI says.)

In only one of the three examples is a U.S. rideshare driver accused of trying to abduct someone. "In April 2022, a 16-year-old boy requested a rideshare trip from Portland, Oregon, to Rockport, Texas," the FBI says. "During his ride, the rideshare driver offered him a drink and the boy later woke up inside of a home in Sinton, Texas, approximately 20 miles in the opposite direction of Rockport. The boy walked to a nearby home and called for help. Law enforcement later arrested the rideshare driver."

I'm mighty suspicious of a "trend" for which a federal agency can produce no data and only one relevant example. (And the FBI doesn't even have the details right on that one—the boy was coming from Portland, Texas, not Portland, Oregon.) One or a few criminal drivers does not constitute a "trend."

The Biden administration and Democratic politicians more broadly have been critical of rideshare services and backed proposals to make drivers be classified as employees rather than independent contractors. Could this bogus FBI warning be some sort of anti-rideshare messaging, designed to support the idea that drivers need tighter regulation?

The FBI says it's a "public service announcement," stating that "although this is a rare occurrence, the FBI is providing notification due to the high impact of such events."

But it sure seems like standard law enforcement fearmongering, designed to keep people scared in order to justify big budgets for fighting crime.


FREE MINDS

More on learning loss and school closures. Earlier this week, the latest National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) report showed significant declines in student math and reading scores. The Atlantic writer Derek Thompson attempts to answer the big question: How much of this learning loss related to school shutdown orders?

I'll begin to answer this extremely fraught question by stating the obvious: School closures were not the sole pandemic disruption to kids' lives that might explain a decline in achievement. Students also suffered from sick and absent teachers, the death or severe illness of parents and other family members, and just a general loss of focus during a stressful period.

Several mainstream news organizations took pains to say that the latest NAEP study offered only murky evidence that school closures were the biggest culprit. For example, Texas opened its schools relatively early but still saw declines in math scores in line with the national average. California opened its schools relatively late, and its students' scores declined less than the national average….

But other studies have established a clearer connection between school closures and learning loss. A 2022 paper published by the National Center for Analysis of Longitudinal Data in Education Research concluded that the shift to remote or hybrid school during the pandemic "had profound consequences for student achievement." Using testing data from more than 2 million students in 10,000 schools across the country, a team of researchers from CALDER, the Northwest Evaluation Association, Harvard, and Dartmouth College found that learning gaps in math "did not widen in areas that remained in-person." But they found that, especially in high-poverty areas, students lost more ground the longer they were remote. "If the achievement losses become permanent," they wrote in their conclusion, "there will be major implications for future earnings, racial equity and income inequality."

A 2022 Ohio State University study of declines in student achievement from March 2020 to spring 2021 came to a similar conclusion.

More here.

"Liberal and Democrats who want to be, not just the party of government, but the coalition of Government-That-Actually-Works, need to be honest students of policies that didn't actually work. And the report card on school closures is not pretty," Thompson tweeted. But he's also optimistic: "The pandemic—the deaths, the stress, the disruptions, and the school closures—clearly set kids back and extended achievement gaps. But some of those gaps are closing fast."


FREE MARKETS

Germany plans to legalize marijuana. German Health Minister Karl Lauterbach said Germany was going to become Europe's "most liberal cannabis legalization project" (woohoo!) and also its "most tightly regulated market" (oh).

It seems American states aren't alone in thinking they can somehow topple a widespread and deeply established black market by keeping an iron-tight grip on legal sales. But as we've seen, setting up too many rules—or taxes—for legal cannabis sales and consumption can keep people buying and selling illegally. And without decriminalization broadly, the same old drug war harms will accumulate.

Under Germany's new plan, "cannabis and THC will no longer be classified as narcotics," reports The Washington Post. "The substances will be able to be produced, supplied and distributed to people 18 or older, within a licensed and government-regulated environment — including specialist shops and, 'if necessary,' pharmacies. Adults can possess 20 to 30 grams of recreational cannabis, both in private and in public."


QUICK HITS

Please sing Wheels on the Bus, please sing Wheels on the Bus https://t.co/0swOROaPlM

— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) October 26, 2022

• Three New Orleans men are now free after decades in prison following wrongful convictions for a murder now suspected to have been committed by a New Orleans cop.

• "The media did not trick voters into disliking inflation," notes Eric Levitz at New York magazine, tackling the weird strain in American punditry that purports to protect democracy by denouncing voter priorities and Democrats who "attribute the electorate's (arguably) misplaced priorities to the failings of the mainstream media."

• Today in ridiculous pop culture moments: A Taylor Swift music video showed the word fat on a scale Swift stepped on, in what was obviously meant as a critique of unrealistic standards for female stars and Swift's own struggles with body acceptance. Now, the video on Apple Music no longer shows the word fat, after people accused Swift of fatphobia.

• The parents of Erik Cantu—the 17-year-old San Antonio boy shot by former San Antonio Police officer James Brennand—are calling for attempted murder charges as their son fights for his life. The officer already faces two counts of aggravated assault.

• "Is Christian nationalism growing or declining? Both," reads a recent Washington Post headline. And yet…the percentage of people who say the federal government should declare the U.S. a Christian nation has gone from nearly 29 percent in 2017 to 19.3 percent in 2022.

• "The United States on Wednesday imposed a slew of new sanctions against Iranian officials involved in the ongoing crackdown on nationwide protests in Iran – the latest US response to Tehran's efforts to quash outrage after the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini," reports CNN.

• What is a family? Ask a zoning official.

• "Fund managers who handle retirement accounts through the EBSA are being told to consider climate change and other environmental, social, and governance (ESG) factors in their decisions," notes Reason's Eric Boehm. "It illustrates how deeply the Biden administration has embedded 'controversial, unrelated progressive causes into the regulatory process,'" Competitive Enterprise Institute Senior Fellow Wayne Crews tells Boehm.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A new low for FBI fearmongering?

    Far be it for me to sow distrust of one of our most cherished institutions like some conspiracy theorist, but they'll surpass this new low soon enough.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      At least you can say that some crime is committed by Uber drivers and such. It does happen, although the chances of it happening to any individual is vanishingly small. So, I would rate this way better than calling parents who show up at their kids' school board meetings to complain terrorists. At least this is related to actual crime rather than just being the armed wing of the Democratic Party.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Usually, it's the Uber driver who gets killed or robbed, not the other way around.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Probably so. You have to be nuts to be an uber driver.

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          2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            I wonder how may Uber/Lyft drivers do it in the hopes of realizing some quasi Penthouse Forum fantasy

          3. BYODB   3 years ago

            Of course it is, because Uber and every other rideshare company keeps records about the driver so if they rob or otherwise commit crimes upon the people that ride with them tracking that person down and arresting their ass is something even your local PD can figure out.

          4. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            Around here, at least, you might get shot at.

            https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/eisenhower-expressway-driver-shot/

            A woman who was picking up a passenger for Uber was shot while driving on the Eisenhower Expressway overnight.

          5. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            Or carjacked and killed as an Uber driver.

            https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-carjacking-uber-driver-killed-shooting-police/10445793/

            Relatives said the 46-year-old rideshare driver was killed after they say investigators told them he fought back when a passenger tried to carjack him on the city's West Side. During the attack, he was shot in the head and face.

            That's far more likely than the Uber driver doing something to the passenger.

          6. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            I drove for Lyft a few years back and I have to say it was very interesting. To say the least. I stopped when COVID hit because sitting in traffic just got to be too much for the extra scratch it brought in. But it was, to an extent, an enjoyable series of vignettes of American life. I loved getting seniors because they were talkative and in some ways reminded me of my grandparents who are no longer around.

            Never got laid or even a phone number from it. Plus it was easy to make $500 in a night if I scouted out bigger events in Silicon Valley (Mexican pop singers at HP in Downtown SJ was literally like scooping cash out of a bucket). And working Friday/Saturday nights was like free entertainment.

            I recommend trying it if you ever need quick scratch or enjoy observing people

          7. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            And this is just Chicago alone. No idea about other cities.

            https://cwbchicago.com/2021/11/50-uber-driver-was-murdered-by-a-man-who-was-on-felony-bail-federal-prosecutors-say-but-thats-only-part-of-story.html

      2. genXer   3 years ago

        I think it sounds like the fbi is doing their part in helping biden crush gig workers by trying to make sure sheeple are fearful of them.

        1. BYODB   3 years ago

          ^ Absolutely this. They don't have any concrete examples or they would tout them hard.

          The irony of them citing a case in Mexico is of course an accident since obviously Mexicans are better than American's in every conceivable way. At the very least that's true of every illegal immigrant, perhaps if they stay in Mexico that's the sign that they're not that great to Democrat administrations?

          *Not to be taken as me thinking Mexicans are somehow worse than normal people, I hate everyone pretty equally.

    2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Reason Editors should be careful. That's the kind of language that can get a journalist disappeared.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        As long as they don't suggest a trend in FBI interference in elections they are probably OK.

      2. Nardz   3 years ago

        The world should be so lucky

    3. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      I'm sure ENB still believes Whitmer was kidnapped though. No FBI shenanigans there.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

      All this talk about Uberdrivers, anx ENB skipped the ruling that absolved SUVs and put the blame squarely on Darrell Brooks, even though he passed the Buck onto JHVH-1:

      'My conscience is clear': Waukesha killer Darrell Brooks says it was 'God's will' that massacre happened
      During the closing argument, Darrell Brooks, 40, said that he never asked himself if 'this' was intentional because he knows it wasn't
      https://meaww.com/waukesha-parade-killer-darrell-brooks-says-it-was-gods-will-massacre-happened-closing-argument

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        Oh, and he evoked the "Sovereihgn Citizen" defense, which, anathema to Libertarian sovereignty, is just "The divine Right of Kings" invoked by trailer trash and hood thugs!

  2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "A new low for FBI fearmongering? The FBI is warning people that rideshare drivers may be trying to abduct their kids."

    OK, that's a little disappointing. The FBI should devote 100% of its resources to prosecuting WHITE SUPREMACISTS. Like the ones who attacked Jussie Smollett.

    #IBelieveJussie

    1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      Does DeSantis have something to do with this HUMAN TRAFFICKING?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Nope. That was sub-human trafficking. Right, Jeff?

  3. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    More on learning loss and school closures.

    We're just full of conspiracy theories today, aren't we.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      The next thing you know they will be saying the vaccine wasn't safe and was never tested for nor intended to stop the spread of COVID. It is a regular QAnon on here.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        100% safe and effective with no downsides.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Please de-platform us!

      3. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Do you really hate grandma that much?!

    2. Overt   3 years ago

      What I love is that these papers have been around for years. And yes, they have been called out by Soave and Welch in places. But this only received comment on the mourning lynx because it blew up in twitter these last several days. And it only blew up the last couple days because someone FINALLY found a study that could contradict the obvious reality that closing schools caused kids to fall behind.

      They have been searching for this narrative for months. And they finally found a bad study to amplify. And make no mistake- this is a bad study. The fact that they talk about things at the State level is a clear example of their bullshit.

      For the record, California did not uniformly "open late". Some districts fought like hell to stay open, despite Newsance's efforts, and others folded like a $3 chair sat in by a 400lb man. Further, California is home to Silicon Valley, which weathered the school closures much better than other areas due to their unique ability for 95% of the population to work from home.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Also, in most places private schools opened well before the public schools did. So, any study that doesn't separate public and private school students should automatically be dismissed as bullshit.

      2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        Fremont shut down the first chance they had and delayed re-opening as long as possible

    3. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

      To be fair I don't recall Reason contributors pushing for schools to be closed to in-person learning. If I missed it, let me know. My joke is about the general consensus that all of this was de facto verboten in the Covidton window.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Several mainstream news organizations took pains to say that the latest NAEP study offered only murky evidence that school closures were the biggest culprit.

    The narrative must be maintained, even in the face of the obvious.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      We don't know that school closures were the culprit. There could have been something else that happened over the last two years that caused this. Just because no one can name what that would be doesn't mean it isn't there. I mean claiming that not allowing kids to go to school caused them to fall behind in school is a pretty crazy theory. As they say, the more radical the claim, the more convincing the evidence must be. And the claim that closing the schools caused kids to learn less is pretty radical.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        It was probably alien abductions. That seems most likely.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          White Nationalists

          1. Griffin3   3 years ago

            Facebook falling to the TikTok.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              Putin.

              1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

                Trump.

                1. Utkonos   3 years ago

                  Fluoride in the drinking water!

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    Chemtrails!

        2. Inigo Montoya   3 years ago

          Excuse me…ALIEN abductions? The correct term is “undocumented extraterrestrials.”

      2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        We don’t know that school closures were the culprit.

        We don't know whether crime is getting worse, either. That seems to be happening a lot lately.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Exactly. You can't prove that large cities deciding to no longer prosecute most crimes has caused an increase in the crime rate. We can never know what the crime rate really is and that is just crazy talk anyway.

          That seems to be the spin on all of this.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            Hey, you guys are finally getting the whole post-modernist critical theory thing! How can anyone really know anything?

            1. BYODB   3 years ago (edited)

              The one thing you can know without a doubt is that if a person is white they are definitely a racist. Doesn’t matter if they’re gay or into BDSM or some other acronym, they’re still a racist.

              -White Progressive’s

              1. Nelson   3 years ago

                If you are going to make ridiculous claims and pretend that "the ones on the other side" are idiots, try not to make simple grammatical errors that make people doubt your knowledge in addition to your sanity.

                It's White Progressives, not White Progressive's. The difference between plural and singular possessive is pretty basic.

            2. MK Ultra   3 years ago

              "All I know is that I don't know nothing." --Operation Ivy

      3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        Even worse closing schools caused mass depression amongst kids who lost social interaction at the age they need it most. Teen suicides skyrocketed during the evil lockdowns.

        Every single lockdowner health official should be in jail for life.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          And don't forget how the masking caused a whole generation of pre school age kids to fall behind in both emotional and speech development. The people responsible for the lockdowns and the masking are guilty of crimes against humanity. If we lived in a just world, there would be an international tribunal similar to Nuremberg and the vast majority of them would be hanged with the few that managed to successfully beg for mercy rotting in prison for the rest of their lives.

          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            *Very* few, I would hope

          2. Nelson   3 years ago

            Well there's some pure, unadulterated psychopathy for everyone to brighten their day with.

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  5. Longtobefree   3 years ago

    Just for the record, the FBI lies.
    Just for the record, public schools can't teach academic subjects because the teachers only know how to teach sex and racism.

    1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      And if the FBI had not been lying, Portland OR to Rockland TX is 2,223 miles and takes 34 hours.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Why would anyone want to leave the progressive utopia of Oregon to go the the red state madness of Texas?

        1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

          To be given a drink and abandoned?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            BBQ?

        2. R Mac   3 years ago

          Do they even give immigrants free pizza in Texas? I don’t think so!

        3. Utkonos   3 years ago

          Well, I’m sure all those homeless up in Oregon could find something to do in the panhandle!

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            Ooooh! Burn!

            They'd help "Keep Austin Weird" too.

    2. Nelson   3 years ago

      If that were true, kids wouldn't have lost any academic progress due to school closures.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...Germany was going to become Europe's "most liberal cannabis legalization project" (woohoo!) and also its "most tightly regulated market" (oh).

    You know who else fed a black market?

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

      Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale?

    2. Anomalous   3 years ago

      Kool-Aid?

    3. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      The cheap Chinese knock-off factory in Shenzhen?

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        Ahhh...so you do business in China.....nice

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      African slave traders?

      1. Griffin3   3 years ago

        Ouch

    5. R Mac   3 years ago

      Popeye’s Chicken?

    6. Utkonos   3 years ago

      New York’s entire political class?

    7. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      Menthol?

  7. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "Now, the video on Apple Music no longer shows the word fat, after people accused Swift of fatphobia."

    Mr. Buttplug says Taylor Swift is a brilliant political analyst. I'm sure she meant no harm.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      I really don't get the Taylor Swift hate. I don't like her music but I am not who it is supposed to appeal to. Her biggest sin seems to be screwing around and then writing songs about her exboyfriends. Banging various women and then writing songs about it is about 90% of what male pop stars do. So why can't she do the same with men that they do with women? It always seemed really sexist to me.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        She often pushes a victim hood persona which is off-putting. She also injects into politics, often based from ignorance.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          I think the politics thing is new. If I stopped listening to music by artists who have stupid or offensive politics, I would damn near have to stop listening to music altogether. She is hot and rich and thinks she has it hard. Not attractive quality but not exactly an uncommon one either. I don't think she deserves the hate she gets.

          1. Personcommenting   3 years ago

            If you were the mom of a pre-teen girl when "It's a Love Story" and the songs that lead to her rapid rise came out you might have a bizarre love-hate Stockholm Syndrome thing going on with Taylor Swift because at one point had to listen to those songs sung on repeat while 11-year old girls took turns karaoking along. So you can acknowledge her ability but still never ever ever want to hear her voice again.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              I have a niece who at least at one time worshipped her. My view was that Shift didn't dress like a total whore or sing anything particularly pornographic or violent. And she is more sophisticated and adult than something like Miley Cyrus. If I had to listen to her all of the time, it would get annoying. I doubt many 15 year old girls listen to music that I would enjoy. Within the universe of music that does appeal to girls that age, Swift's music seems to be about as good or at least unobjectionable as it gets.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                Yeah, if you had to make a choice between Swift and Cyrus, I'd take Swift. Her drama is nowhere near the total trashfire that Cyrus turned into, and Miley is a legitimately talented singer who also happens to be mental basketcase.

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  I'd choose .38 Special, and I don't mean the band.

                  1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                    Ha ha haaaaaaaaa.

                    That was funny

                2. American Mongrel   3 years ago

                  Boot skoot boogie ftw...
                  Oh, the party usa Cyrus 🙁

            2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

              One of the best days of my life was when my daughter suddenly decided she was too old for the Frozen soundtrack.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                I'm waiting for my daughter to stop listening to what I call video game music.

                1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

                  My kids literally go around singing video game music.

                  There's some online game called Undertales and they go around humming its theme song.

                  But it gets worse. My son was into composing video game music for. a while.

                  1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                    Some of the 8 Bit stuff is cool. I found a decent cover of Bodies by Sex Pistols the other day

                  2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Yep.

              2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                I bet you were happy she Let It Go

                1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

                  OMG, you don't know.

          2. JimboJr   3 years ago

            If the climate a decade ago was as woke as it is today, she would have interrupted her own speech to say that actually a woman of color deserved it more.

          3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            If I stopped listening to music by artists who have stupid or offensive politics, I would damn near have to stop listening to music altogether.

            Aye. But people do it. Sucks to be them.

        2. Nardz   3 years ago

          https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/skechers-kicks-ye-out-corporate-office-gap-pulls-all-merch-shelves

        3. Utkonos   3 years ago

          “She also injects into politics, often based from ignorance.”
          Thank God actors don’t do that!

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            Injects what? Is there some Tay-Tay Futanari floating around out there? 😉

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        It's mainly because her stuff always came across as whiny and fatuous. The thing is, she writes all of her songs, so it's not really a surprise that an emotionally immature teenager/20-something Millennial female would sound like that over the years. If you're old enough to remember, Debbie Gibson's music was like that, too, for the exact same reason.

        Most of these pop tarts don't actually write their own songs, so their stuff doesn't have the same sensibility. As Swift's gotten older, her catalog seems to have matured accordingly and it's not as off-putting as it used to be, but there's still a lot of "poor victimized me" that comes through her songs. That turns people off because she's clearly a lot more calculated than she and her PR team have portrayed her over the years.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          She is in the business of selling music to primarily teenage girls. "Poor victimized me" is a message most teenage girls are going to identify with and buy. I think people take pop music a bit more seriously than they should. They always have I suppose.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            This is why she is off-putting.

          2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

            Not to come off any more 'misogynist' than need be, but 'poor victimized me' is the central plank of pop feminism. And a major component of many women's lives. If it weren't, there would be no ocasio-cortez, no hillary, no pelosi in their current form. They would need expertise.

            1. Nardz   3 years ago

              ‘poor victimized me’ is the central plank of pop culture/education/business

              1. Griffin3   3 years ago (edited)

                Compare: My Future’s So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                  That song's a typical 80s shitlib lament about impending nuclear holocaust, not an optimistic ditty. A lot of songs during that period were about fears that Ronny Raygun was going to get the entire world blown up if he didn't make nice with the Soviets. The massively overrated "Land of Confusion" is a prime example.

                  1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                    That reminds me of XTC's "Dear God". That song is almost a parody of the shithead, whinny atheist leftist. God what a annoying song and annoying group, that lefty critics of course loved.

                    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                      There's one from the archives.

                      Weird Al should have done a parody called 'Dear Zod'

                    2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

                      Got a valid explanation for their concerns, Pops? Minds who spend their wheir whole lives on the questions couldn't.

                    3. Ignore me!   3 years ago

                      Lefty critics and me. I love XTC.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                    That stupid, vapid ugly puppet song. Yeah, their generation sure "set it right".

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                      A couple of them, Alphaville's "Forever Young" and Escape Club's "Wild Wild West" are pretty amusing in hindsight considering the wall came down a year after they hit the charts.

                  3. perlmonger   3 years ago

                    Hunh. Maybe the sperg is too strong in me or something, but I always took that song at face value and thought of it as a pop nerd positivity song.

                    I think I'm going to choose to continue to think of it that way regardless. 😀

            2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              Teenagers have always had a victim complex. The problem is at some point during the 1960s, a whole lot of them and especially women stopped growing up and just stayed vacuous teenagers for their entire lives.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Personally, I think one of the ironies of Swift's discography over the years is how intensely self-focused her lyrics are, but not really self-reflective or self-aware, even as they're cloaked in extremely catchy hooks.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            "Intensely self focused but lacking self awareness or self reflection" is a very good description of a typical teenager. The woman knows her audience.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

              One thing I'll give her credit for is that her instincts at self-promotion are incredible, probably the best of anyone in the industry.

        3. JimboJr   3 years ago

          "As Swift’s gotten older, her catalog seems to have matured accordingly and it’s not as off-putting as it used to be, but there’s still a lot of “poor victimized me” that comes through her songs."

          She was a teeny bopper and wrote teeny bopper stuff when it was popular. Then girl-boss feminism was popular so she wrote songs about how she is the shit and fucks guys then dumps them. Now victim claims are today's most valuable currency.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Excepts she wins and blames men for her very actions. See Dear John about John Mayer.

        4. Utkonos   3 years ago

          Remember when Debbie Gibson got pregnant?

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            Does she?

      3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

        I think she also got her start when her dad bought her a record company

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          That's basically what it was for, although her dad didn't buy it. Big Machine was set up specifically to push Swift. They did sign other artists through the years, but they were mostly an afterthought because all the company's resources went in to promoting her.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            I think record companies can create short term sensations through the power of marketing alone. That has always been the case, especially with teen idols. You can make a Sean Cassidy or a Tiffany if you have someone with the right look and a catchy song at the right time with enough marketing.

            I do not think, you can sustain any success with such an artist over the long term. There is no accounting for taste. So, I don't think not liking music is enough to dismiss it. I do think there is sort of a wisdom of crowds with artists and music. I think if an artist has lasting success it is because there is something to their talent and the music they produce. Swift has been around making popular music for what 15 years now? She clearly has talent or she wouldn't have lasted that long. She isn't successful because the record company created her. Record companies and marketing alone cannot create lasting success.

            1. Overt   3 years ago

              On the one hand, I agree that you cannot argue with mass appeal. I have no animus against millions of teenagers consuming harmless pop music. It is terrible music, to be sure, but that doesn't generally impact me. There *is* good music out there. You just have to find it. So it really isn't much skin off my nose that she is popular.

              On the other hand, I really cannot stand fake people. And her "sweet mistreated girl" persona is so obviously untrue that it makes me wretch whenever I'm exposed to it. So I won't go out of my way to concern myself with her. But when my kid plays her song for the 50th time, or comment threads on my libertarian websites bring her up, I am sure to point out my dislike of her.

      4. Overt   3 years ago

        For me, it is a rejection of her carefully cultivated image. Since her first album, every action she has taken has been a blatantly obvious choice to maximize her popularity and image. This ultimately culminated in her choosing to "reluctantly" come out against trump years after it was popular.

        Like you, I don't personally enjoy her music, and I'd be done with it if that were all. But her PR machine shoves her in my face constantly, with Disney-esque efficiency. She is Brittney Spears without the spectacular meltdown- frozen in time right after Toxic, and then put on repeat, churning out the same perfectly curated drek year after year, and I cannot escape it.

        1. perlmonger   3 years ago

          This whole thread is sort of weird for me to read. I think I could name precisely one Swift song, and that one only because it's got a catchy mashup with Iron Man that I got on a disc from a nightclub that plays such songs. Otherwise, I'm not sure I could pick Taylor Swift out of a police lineup.

          *pushes play on Advaitic Songs by Om again*

          😉

          1. Ignore me!   3 years ago

            Man, Om. I haven’t listened to them in a while.

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      Weird ALs food album hardest hit

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Just eat it.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      You guys think about Swift far too much.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        Taylor Swift: Would!

        1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

          Then hopefully the song she writes about dumping me has 'Reason' in the title somewhere and alludes to the commentariat here

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            I think of worse fates than banging for a few weeks or months and then being dumped and the subject some pop song. Oh no, don't throw me into that briar patch.

      2. Utkonos   3 years ago

        “You guys think about Swift far too much.”
        I was told to think fast…

      3. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        I was about to say...

    4. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      If this ends with Weird Al getting cancelled then our nation is lost.

  8. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germany-Is-Dismantling-A-Wind-Farm-To-Make-Way-For-A-Coal-Mine.html

    Germany is dismantling a wind farm to make way for a coal mine. Some days the news isn't all bad.

    1. Chupacabra   3 years ago

      Note: the reason they're dismantling it now is the 20 year period of subsidies just expired.

      1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        also they are cold

  9. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "And yet…the percentage of people who say the federal government should declare the U.S. a Christian nation has gone from nearly 29 percent in 2017 to 19.3 percent in 2022."

    Completely unacceptable. Religious nationalism is a revolting concept — except when Israel does it, then it's OK because Jews are God's chosen people.

    #LibertariansForAIPAC

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      I am pretty sure that the people bitching about Christian nationalism in the US also hate Israel. The Venn Diagram of "People who bitch about Christian Nationalism taking over the US" and "People who hate Israel" may not be a circle but it is close.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        The only reason Christian Nationalists like Israel is that Israel is part of their belief in St. John's Book of Revelation, in whose prophecy a good sized chunk of Jews will go to The Lake of Fire and fry, won't see 'em again 'til the Fourth of July.

        Small wonder Thomas Jefferson called The Book of Revelation "the ravings of a lunatic."

        As a Libertarian Atheist, I say Jews have a right to live anywhere they hold good title or pay rent, just like everybody else. I call this view Zionism Plus.

        In fact, since Israel is more Socialist than even many Left-leaning Jews could stand and since the Israeli government is doing some real icky and self-destructive realpolitik foreign policy with Russia, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, freedom-loving Jews would probably do good to build coral islands or glass-bottom offshore platforms and make a spare Israel 2.0.

        And, of course, take the nukes and leave the blintzes. 🙂

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago (edited)

          “is that Israel is part of their belief in St. John’s Book of Revelation, in whose prophecy a good sized chunk of Jews will go to The Lake of Fire and fry”

          Dammit Encog, you always fall for these hoaxes.

          That’s actually not in Revelations and was spread in the late 90’s by DNC agent Abe Foxman and the ADL the to scare Jews away from Jewish/Evangelical alliances.

          Rather, the 200 year old popular Evangelical belief it is based on, is that after the rapture the time of the gentiles comes to an end and the Israeli Jews become overwhelmingly Christian. These Jews are the ones persecuted and killed by the antichrist. They become martyrs and are some of the first to be raised from the dead, not go to hell.

          What you said doesn’t exist in Christian scripture, aside from generalities that apply to every race and not specifically Israeli Jews. It’s like you guys forget that most New Testament writers, including John of Patmos, were Jews writing to Jews. The Jesus People movement still being Jewish and not evolving into Christianity for at least another century.

          1. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

            He has a propensity to misrepresent and misunderstand the Bible that he uses to ridicule Christianity and assume a position of intellectual superiority. This is common among people who have to always tell you that they are atheists. I've had to correct him multiple times. BTW, don't ever expect him to admit he is wrong. He actually believes he is an authority on the Bible no matter how many times he is corrected.

            1. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

              Another one of his favorite ploys is to pull a phrase (or part of a phrase) out of context and totally misrepresent what it means. I also know several congregationalists preachers who do this, they are usually two year Bible college graduates. I prefer reading the Bible as it was meant to be read, as sections, because context is everything. And as for the whole chapter and verse thing, that was added long after the Bible was written and isn't how it should be read, either.

              I often suggest to people who want to know more about the Bible to pick up a good study Bible that includes the historical, linguistic, and cultural aspects. From my personal (and likely biased) perspective the Lutherans publish the best of these. This is likely because Luther and his theological heirs, stressed a deep personal study and understanding of the Bible.

              1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

                From my personal (and likely biased) perspective the Lutherans publish the best of these.

                Catholics have some good ones, too, although arguably for opposite reasons from the Lutherans (i.e. an expectation of high education on the part of the clergy, and no expectation of education among the laypeople).

              2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                "to pick up a good study Bible that includes the historical, linguistic, and cultural aspects."

                And stop relying on the Skeptic's Annotated FFS. It's not a scholarly work and has no historical perspectives. It's wrong far more than it's right.

                1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

                  It's just the regular KJV, Apocrypha, Qu'ran, and Book of Mormon with commentary and notes that anybody can grasp without a Theology degree.

              3. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

                How do you read being condemned to "The Lake of Fire" in a way that is in context?

            2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

              Christians always tell everyone they are Christians, so why can't I reciprocate?

              1. Nelson   3 years ago

                Because Christians are good and atheists are bad. You aren't supposed to talk about the bad stuff in public.

                1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

                  Oh, is that it? So noted. 😉

          2. Overt   3 years ago

            And it's just much simpler. The Jews suffering in Europe reminds many evangelicals of the suffering of Christ. They were persecuted for beliefs, not actions. And it was a miracle of almost divine proportions that some survived to be delivered to an earthly kingdom (Israel), as many evangelicals expect to be delivered into heaven.

            It is nutty that people believe there is some deep conspiracy at work here, when you can clearly see how the Jewish story parallel's Christ's story and the early christians' lives, and therefore might be the basis of a common understanding.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

              Wouldn't it have been so much better if there wasn't thousands of years of persecution over Supernatural illusions and people could just be people and not need special homelands except where they just happen to find themselves?

              1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

                Are you under the impression that the Romans destroyed Jerusalem because of "Supernatural illusions?"

            2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

              By the way, are you serious that Evangelical Protestants empathize with Jewish suffering when 2000 years of Anti-Jewish persecution came from Christians, and in some ways, Protestants were worse than Catholics (see Martin Luther's Von den Juden und ihren Lügen or On The Jews and Their Lies.)???

              You gotta be shitting me. That's as rich as Mother's Lament claiming that Evangelical Christian Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't exist until Abe Foxman brought it into being in the Nineties. You don't have to be a Theology Scholar to know that's not right.

            3. Nelson   3 years ago

              Well, that's obviously why the Jews were tortured, murdered, maimed and forced to renounce their faith by the Christians. They were helping the poor, benighted Jews by helping them understand Christ. Because the Jews had never suffered or had to persevere in their entire history. Oh, wait ...

              How arrogant is it to claim that the Jews paralleled Christ"s story? The Jews had been living that story for centuries before Jesus was even a thought. Christ was just living the life of a typical Jew, probably because he *was* a Jew.

          3. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            According to Revelation, the unbelievers still go to Hell, JHVH-1--not being satisfied with destroying his Creation once by flood (when he thought his Creation was a mistake)--still destroys his Creation again by fire, and St. John's Book of Revelation is still "the ravings of a lunatic.". So you haven't proven anything I said to be buying into a hoax.

            1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

              St. John’s Book of Revelation is still “the ravings of a lunatic.”

              No, it isn't. It's a compilation of ancient Hebrew prophecies about the end times. Very little of St. John's Revelation is original to that book - about 95% of it has sources in OT prophets.

              So you haven’t proven anything I said to be buying into a hoax.

              The hoax you have bought into is that Christians want to immanentize the Eschaton by championing Israel so they can bring about the events of the Revelation and destroy the Jews.

              Almost no one actually holds this belief.

              If you want to know what someone thinks, ask that person - not their enemies.

              1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

                Chalk Revelation and the OT prophetic visions up to psylosibic mushroom highs. It existed in the Middle East and prolly explains a lot!

            2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago (edited)

              What Square = Circle said.

              “The hoax you have bought into is that Christians want to immanentize the Eschaton by championing Israel so they can bring about the events of the Revelation and destroy the Jews.”

              Nothing you claimed regarding Christians supporting Jews to immanentize the Eschaton was true. It’s a bad meme and lie on the level of the antisemitic blood libel medieval Christians would spout about Jews.

              “the unbelievers still go to Hell”

              If Revelations actually became true then they wouldn’t be “unbelievers” at that point. In fact atheism would be impossible by then. They’d have declared themselves to be enemies of God and according to the book would have been Pol-Pot level brutal to other humans by that point.

              1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

                While not all Christians support "Immanentizing the Escaton," The Evangelical Christian Nationalists do. I know whatof I speak because I was raised and grew up around the works of Hal Lindsey, Jim and Tammy Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Rev. Jerry Falwell, Rev. Joe Chambers, Jack Chick, and Brother R.G. Stair, as well as devotees and their bullshit.

                I distinctly remember Rev. Bailey Smith saying: "God does not hear the prayers of a Jew."

                I know also that even Christians not in this millieu also say: "Love not the world, nor the things of this world" and "My home is not here; I'm just passin' through."

                That kind of sentiment plays right into Apocalypticism and wastes people's lives with senseless guilt, anxiety, pain, and fear...including children who know no different.

                No Bible-rejecting Atheist would torture people with this and no Libertarian or even Half-Libertarian Atheist would be a Pol Pot.

                I leave you with this thought on Revelation: The biggest word of the English language is 'if'.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

      OBL, how dare you not support the brown bodies engaged in the boycott Israel movement (BDS). The Squad, the most liberal-tarian members of Congress, are for this after all.

      For shame, sir, for shame.

      #ReEdOBL

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        Israel 1.0 has all "colors "of "bodies" and with a glass-bottomed or man-made coral Israel 2.0, the BDS-ers will have multiple Wack-A-Mole targets.

        The BDS-ers will have to go back to their old-timey "Gentlemen's Agreements," pogroms, lynchings, and Holocausts that have such a shitty look and won't be nearly as easy with distributed platforms equipped with nuclear arms.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

      Ackshuyally, the Zionism of Theodore Hertzl was a Secular movement and has a whole favorable entry in The Encyclopedia of Unbelief.

      Ultra Orthodox Jews also oppose the legitimacy of Israel, saying it wasn't supposed to exist until the Temple in Jerusalem is rebuild and the Messiah comes. Despite this, Ultra-Orthodoxers love israel's present Welfare State and exemption from National Service and Ultra-Orthodoxers have parties in the Knesset that try to impose their religious ways on Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, and Secular Jews.

      Alas, things aren't as neatly packaged as people on all sides of the issue make it out to be.

      1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

        Zionism of Theodore Hertzl was a Secular movement and has a whole favorable entry in The Encyclopedia of Unbelief.

        It's approved by scripture? That's a relief.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

          No just "based facts" that everybody claim to support.

  10. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1585421602967232519

    NY Times cancels the climate catastrophe. It's over.

    Finally, after several years of denial, climate science has embraced a more hopeful narrative and abandoned the apocalyptic worst-case outcomes based upon implausible model scenarios (RCP 8.5)

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      I guess after the world didn't end in "insert year here" for the umpteenth time, the AGW cult has decided to take a new rhetorical approach.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

        24 hours from now the NYT will be issuing an apology for their heresy.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          And engaging in a long self criticism secession with their lunatic staffers.

      2. Overt   3 years ago

        In many ways they got what they needed. ESGs insinuated themselves into all economic activity. And now that Climate Change is politically costly (c.f. German Energy Crisis), they have pivoted to the new hotness: Racial Justice and Global Health Crises

    2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Wait a second, is this one of those "just redefine the word and declare victory" success stories?

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        I think what is happening is that the left is figuring out that they can't get away with turning the lights off in the name of appeasing the global warming Gods. They are also figuring out that while Green energy may be a great source of virtue signaling and graft, it also results in the lights going off and the left getting blamed for it.

        What this article is is the NYT starting to try to back the faithful off the ledge and prepare them for the left walking away from the AGW cult because it is no longer useful to them.

        1. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

          They are afraid of chipper shredders when people are freezing and starving this winter while they prattle on about ending oil and gas.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            As they should be.

          2. Jerry B.   3 years ago

            Remember to cache some gasoline to run the chipper-shredders. Put Stabil in the tanks.

        2. Overt   3 years ago

          I think it is more base than this: They have lost control of the narrative.

          If there is one thing that the NYT loves more than liberal narratives, it is being the Elite Masthead that tells you what the narrative is. And that presents a problem. They can't whip up concern any more, because Greta and a bunch of Art vandals with super glue and soup are the ones driving the discussion. The paranoia they have cultivated for the past 30 years has finally boiled over into a sticky mess that has them watching on, rather than doing the cooking.

          And so now, NYT is stroking their beards, saying "You see, it isn't as bad as all those crazy people are saying. Pay attention to me, because they are cray cray! Come on! Pay attention to me!"

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

            The impending economic collapse of Europe, due largely to their green agenda and their refusal to negotiate with Putin as demanded by the Biden neocons, is creating an untenable situation for the elites. Something has to give and the decision has been made to massage the narrative. If the NATO lap dogs have to burn coal to keep from freezing to death it's no big deal as it turns out. As long as nobody dares to question the War Party everything else is negotiable.

        3. BYODB   3 years ago


          What this article is is the NYT starting to try to back the faithful off the ledge and prepare them for the left walking away from the AGW cult because it is no longer useful to them.

          Unfortunately for them, they radicalized an entire generation with this stuff and 'walking away from the cliff' is no longer an option for them.

          I'm entirely serious about this, many Millennial's and just about all of Gen-Z were radicalized into this religion and no amount of 'walking back' is going to convince them otherwise.

          In fact, it should be amusing to watch the self-styled acolytes of this religion hoisted by their own congregants except that it will also be tremendously painful to the rest of us as well.

          Of course, the same generation that believes wholeheartedly that electrical generation is the devil are also addicted to electronic devices so...that's probably a self-correcting problem in the long term. They'll suddenly grok it the second their own device shuts off.

    3. Personcommenting   3 years ago

      Can someone tell the idiots that keep throwing things on paintings?

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        There could be worse ways to win people over to one’s side, like drowning kittens for climate change. But not many worse ways.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

          Would only work if kittens are considered a representation of Western Civilization.

          1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

            I think Ancient Egypt qualifies kittens as part of Western Civilization. Maybe someone could throw tomato soup on a cat mummy.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      I bet the Obamas are about to sell their place on Martha's Vineyard.

  11. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1585421602967232519

    NY Times cancels the climate catastrophe. It's over.

    Finally, after several years of denial, climate science has embraced a more hopeful narrative and abandoned the apocalyptic worst-case outcomes based upon implausible model scenarios (RCP 8.5)

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Again?

      1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        I guess he had to do a double-take.

    2. JimboJr   3 years ago

      So we got out of Paris accords, no one met any actual CO2 goals (that tried), China/India continued to go full steam ahead not giving a fuck, and...nothing happened.

      Wonder if we will ever get an admission that at best it was hysteria based on shitty models, at worst a blatant attempt to use fear-mongering and faux-concern to control people/energy

  12. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1585598010255368194

    PayPal’s $2,500 “misinformation” fine is back. Pass it on.

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Seems like a lawsuit waiting happen given their public statement of removal.

    2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      It literally never went anywhere at all. I checked on the very day they said that they were walking it back, and the language was still there. (And still is)

  13. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1585439706556387328

    TikTok learned the age, location, interests of a 10 year old girl.

    Served her a “Blackout Challenge” video, which encourages users to strangle themselves.

    She did that with a purse strap & dies.

    Court accepts all this as true & rules that § 230 shields TikTok from liability.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Oh my God. Social media is a virus on society and the people who run it as well as the people like reason who shill for it evil.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Remember when people said the same things about the printing press and radio? Good times.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Yeah because technology is always good. What would the world be without napalm, hydrogen bombs, and biological warfare as the song goes. The idea that any invention or technology is good is as fucking stupid as thinking that any technology is bad.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            I believe Skeptic's point was that technology is morally neutral and it's all in how humans use technology.

            "what it is, is up to us." --Stewart Brand, creator of The Whole Earth Catalog.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              Human nature is what it is. If the technology results in harm due to its interaction with human nature, the technology is a bad idea.

          2. Square = Circle   3 years ago

            What would the world be without napalm, hydrogen bombs, and biological warfare

            A world free of computers, vaccines, and cheap widely available food.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              Napalm and H bombs are necessary for vaccines and widely available food? Do tell.

              1. BYODB   3 years ago (edited)

                I think you’re missing the point, which is that technological innovation may result in harms due to human nature but it also results in things that greatly benefit mankind.

                Even if you had a central authority (RE: Government) that picks and chooses which technologies get advanced you still end up with harms. The same mind that is capable of creating technology is also incapable of dictating the terms or path of that creation.

                Social media might be disgusting and shitty, but nobody is forced to use it. For example, I’m not on a single social media platform and this has caused me zero harms and no inconvenience in life.

                Bitching about what other people do with technology makes you come off like a Karen at best, and a totalitarian shitbag at worst.

                I'm my own brand of luddite, and I frequently rail against new technologies but I'm not under any illusions that my opinion is either widespread or even a desirable one. It's merely my opinion.

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      So there is a pretty disturbing trend of people figuring out how to send fucked up shit to kids through algorithm manipulation. My daughter watched YT kids and when she was younger watched my little pony. One time a video popped up of goth emo ponies talking about cutting themselves. Turns out on research people are trying to get these inserted into kids streams. It has happened with a few other recommends on other topics too.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        Yeah, there is all kinds of fucked up shit that people try to pass off as children's content on YouTube. You have to keep a very close eye on what your kids are watching.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          But don’t you dare say the vax doesn’t stop the spread on YT, that they’ll catch.

          1. perlmonger   3 years ago

            I'll admit I've considered seeing if I can bait idiotic teenagers into a "TikTok Bear Spray Challenge" or something.

            "C'mon kids, it's good practice!"

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      The lesson here is that it's critical to keep your kids off of social media for as long as possible, including through high school. Teenagers in particular are fucking retards and will jump on any bandwagon that strikes their fancy. Not that TikTok isn't a cancer, but the parents failed here too by not simply keeping their daughter off social media to begin with.

      "But we have to get them a phone for emergencies!" Then get them a fucking flip phone and tell them that if they use it for anything other than calling or texting friends, they're going to lose it and their phone will be cancelled. You're parents, do your fucking job and stop trying to be your kids' "friends."

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Look, most cultures since before history realized that teenagers are retards. It's only our recent culture that put them in charge of everything.

        1. Griffin3   3 years ago

          Excuse me, Greta Thunberg is holding on line 2.

          1. Utkonos   3 years ago

            Keep her there. Some elevator muzak may actually do her some good!

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

        ""Teenagers in particular are fucking retards and will jump on any bandwagon that strikes their fancy.""

        That's why dems want to change the voting age to 16.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          I've seen leftists unironically argue that the voting age needs to be lowered to 12, "because these issues affect them too and they need to have a say!" No, people who are in the throes of puberty and have a meltdown over a zit on their forehead and eat Tide Pods do not need to have a say in how a complex society should be managed.

          Sarc and I came to the conclusion a few months ago that we need to raise the voting age to 25 since Science! has informed us that the prefrontal cortex doesn't fully develop until then, and it lines up for when you're eligible to run for Congress.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

            At least 25. Also I’d like to see voting limited to people who actually pay taxes. If you get back more than you pay in (Earned Income Tax Credit for example), you can’t vote. If you work for the government or live off of a government program then you can’t vote. Conflict of interest. Only people who pay into the system should decide how the money is spent.

            Edit: Or rather decide who spends the money. Amounts to the same thing.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

              Voting age aside, this country's cultural zeitgeist is being run way too much like the Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life."

            2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

              I'd like to see Tax Day and Voting Day be the same.

              Is it any coincidence that April 15th and the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November are about as far apart as possible.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                End paycheck deductions. Make everyone write a check. See what happens.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

            What about brain shrinkage from alcohol. Convince alcoholics not to vote? Maybe have the repeat Lesser of Two Evils!!!! and rage on comment boards instead?

            https://www.verywellmind.com/cause-of-brain-shrinkage-in-alcoholics-studied-66615

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              What about people like you who were born with tiny brains?

              1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                Cite?

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  Who do you think?

            2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Just the fact that your comment was a snide personal attack while completely ignoring the topic shows that the average alcoholic with a shrunken brain is capable of more intelligent conversation than anything you have ever offered. So be careful what you wish for. If brainpower was a requisite for voting, you'd be laughed out of the polling booth.

              1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                I didn't even mention you. Are you admitting to having brain damage from alcoholism?

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  Lol. Poor sarc.

                2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  Can you ask a more leading question?

    4. Jerry B.   3 years ago

      Joe Biden hams it up with TikTok influencers in a bid for the youth vote.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/27/tiktok-democrats-influencers-biden/

    5. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Well there was no disinformation involved so TikTok did their job.

  14. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "The media did not trick voters into disliking inflation," notes Eric Levitz at New York magazine

    Reason's leading economics expert disagrees. He says the i-word is a total non-issue made up by wingnut.com because the Biden economy is so fantastic there's no honest way to criticize it.

    #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Everyone loves inflation, because inflation is profit!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        We demand an inflation-profits tax!

        1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

          that was funny

  15. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/the-abelist-delusion-and-the-tragic

    ...The main retort to Fetterman’s performance from the left has been the idea that people who are criticizing him for his auditory and speech disabilities are wrongfully juxtaposing these with cognitive disabilities and, are therefore, “abelist”.

    Here’s a smattering of what that spin on the subject has looked like when handed down by the mainstream media:

    In other words, the left is making the case that anyone who criticizes or asks critical questions about Fetterman’s state of mind are prejudicial towards him in a way that he doesn’t deserve. They argue he can still function cognitively, but he just can’t communicate well.

    To which I reply: how the hell are we supposed to know that?...

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Isn't being able to speak a "cognitive function"? Just asking.

      1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        Not when you can redefine "cognitive function". It worked for "recession", after all.

    2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      He doesn't need to be able to think, speak, or otherwise communicate clearly. They just need him alive enough to raise his hand during critical votes.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Pretty much just this.

    3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Plus, if he dies or becomes fully incapacitated, the governor of PA can appoint a much more radical leftist without that silly problem of the electorate.

      We need the governor to circumvent the will of the people in order to protect democracy.

    4. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

      Basically, a Dem's job is to just think/act/vote the way he is told, and that's an easy job, so Biden and Fetterman are OK.

    5. JimboJr   3 years ago

      I wonder if any of these 'ableist' simps would be OK with a vision-impaired pilot

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Or a surgeon with shaky hands.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          How about a vision-impaired pilot-surgeon with shaky hands?

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            That would be Strange...

    6. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      And this isn't like ALS, where you maintain your mental acuity but your physical capabilities shut down. Fetterman literally cannot process information because the stroke nerfed his ability to do so. Even if he wins, he'd be an absolute disaster as a Senator and would clearly only be there as a rubber-stamp for Dem legislation. There's still a lot of horse-trading that goes on between Senators of both parties, and he'd be absolute dead-weight in that regard.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Fetterman wasn't exactly firing on all 4 cylinders before the stroke either.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          I wouldn't say that, he just displayed the same vacuous pathological altruism and intense self-loathing that all white leftists possess. There's a difference between simply being dumb, and being smart enough to know better but supporting dumb ideas anyway.

    7. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      He's not expected to speak or understand the debate in the Senate, just support whatever the D party line is.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Sounds not too dissimilar than our own Tammy Duckworth(less) here in Illinois.

  16. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Trans activists are diverting their anger and outrage towards detransitioners telling their stories.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/detransitioner-met-with-vitriol-by-transgender-activists-shares-her-story

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      If you watch the Matt Walsh "What is a Woman" movie, the most compelling scene is when the woman who detransitioned talks about how there has never been a community abandoned to quackery like the trans community is being abandoned now. She is not wrong. Instead of trying to help these people, we are letting the pharmaceutical and healthcare industries do hideous human experiments on them that have no scientific basis or reason to think it will help them in the name of profit and allowing the left to stick it to the normies. It is right up there with things like lobotomies and the Tuskegee experiments as the worst things this country as ever done.

      1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

        I suspect that 'now' is euphemistic. I recall talking to some trans folks 5 or so years back who were repeating pretty much the same activist /trans people literally dying' and not able to produce numbers. They referred to the extremely small subset of intersex subtypes as proof of trans, xxy, xxx, etc -bog standard and a fallacious argument. There are some folks who are trans, live and let live types, like mature humans. Then there are the vocal, social media activist, progressive shithead types that try arguments that you see from the left-leaning fuckwits here & at Volokh.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Sex change operations are horrible. And there is no evidence at all it helps the people who get them. They are pure quakery done for money. And when done on children, they are pure evil.

          1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

            Yeah, I'm definitely in the 'wait until 18 years old' group, as unpopular as that stance is with the 'cool kids.' It does bear pointing out, preaching to the choir, that 5 years ago, the minors deciding they were trans & getting surgery wasn't such an issue. Nor were 'MAPs" or 'family friendly' drag shows. I'm of the opinion that it's usually the ignorant, or ideologue outlier subset that makes the larger group look bad. Though, I haven't met any progressives, or read any progressive thinking or policy that makes me think that this holds true in that case.

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              100%. There is no imperative to have it done before they reach majority age.

              I weep for all the fabulous natural racks I will never have the chance to leer at

              1. BYODB   3 years ago

                If you take the activists at their word, you have to do it when they're a child because otherwise they end up looking like Frankenstein's Monster.

                So, basically, do it before they're able to make mature decisions or the decision is 'taken away' from them when they're older since they won't be able to 'pass' anymore.

                Which is probably true, but also disgusting. I don't really judge the trans-person on this because they are living a delusion but the Doctor's are putting their oath in a shredder when they perform these procedures.

                If you ask a Doctor to cut off your leg because you identify as being handicapped, they'll kick you the fuck out. I don't see how this is really different.

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

                  Yes, it is fucking warped. And like we both know, they are taking the decision away from them now under the guise of it being taken away later. This is facilitated odiously by allowing kids to begin the procedure surreptitiously with the parents being kept in the dark. And we know it's a fucking scam because no child is ever recommended to NOT undergo the procedure and instead receive counseling

                  Then there is the unspoken driver of Munchausen By Proxy from the parents who get off on the special status it gives them in perpetuity.

                  Frankly, it should be grounds for removing the child from parents who go along with it.

      2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

        Hey feds got to get their kickbacks somewhere

  17. JesseAz   3 years ago

    More of it isnt happening by jeff shows drag queen story hour in 1st grade in Philadelphia. Don't know how I ever survived first grade without Lady bulge.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/drag-queen-story-hour-graders-philadelphia-school-outrages-parents

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      It's not happening and it's a good thing that it is.

      1. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

        What better way to Progs have to show their power over their inferiors than to mutilate and rape their children at will?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          "Don't forget that these people want you broke, dead, your children raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny."

  18. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Former Orange County Commissioner candidate Cynthia Harris filed a sworn affidavit in late August with the Secretary of State's office alleging that illegal operations to collect third-party ballots have been going on for years in the Orlando area where voting activists are paid $10 for each ballot they collect.
    .
    She described an intricate system funded by liberal leaning organizations that dispatch ballot brokers into black communities to pressure voters to turn over their ballots. The $10 fee per ballot is divvied up among the parties who help complete the harvesting.
    .
    The collection and delivery of ballots by third parties is illegal in Florida.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/florida-opens-criminal-probe-democrat-whistleblowers-evidence-ballot

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      But the media assures me that ballot fraud never happens. Claims to the contrary are just a rightwing memes or evil Russian disinformation.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        I don't recall anyone saying ballot fraud never happens. Rather that the percentage of fraud is small enough that it wouldn't effect the outcome.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          I mean what is a quarter of a million votes between friends?

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

            Depends on if it exceeds the margin of victory or not. So far I’ve seen nothing to indicate that there was enough fraud to change the outcome. That’s not to say there was no fraud (despite what the girls dishonestly insist I say), but that it wasn’t significant.

          2. Nelson   3 years ago

            There probably haven't 250,000 fraudulent ballots in the history of the country, total. There definitely hasn't ever been 250,000 in a single election.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Sullum has been telling us that for years now. He's a famous libertarian. Who the fuck are you? Maybe you should be posting on wingnut.com.

      3. Nelson   3 years ago

        "But the media assures me that ballot fraud never happens."

        Explain how collecting someone else's ballot, which has been filled out by that voter and represents the intent of that voter, is fraud.

    2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Florida opens criminal probe

      Found the Threat To Democracy.

    3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      Good. People doing that crap need to be caught and punished. No matter what party they belong to.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Are the harvesters dressed as Disney characters? I mean, who wouldn't give their ballot to Mickey or Goofy?

      1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        Especially when they're carrying crowbars.

    5. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

      The newest narrative is that this and other lawsuits are attempts to cast doubt on the elections by Republicans. Not sure why Republicans would want to cast doubts on election outcomes that they appear to perform extremely well in. This narrative has developed as the Republicans have won several of these lawsuits recently.

      1. Nelson   3 years ago

        They're playing the long game. Support for cultural conservatism (the core of the Republican party) continues to erode.

        Right now they enjoy an advantage because those who think their country is being stolen from them are extremely motivated voters. But most of them are in their 60s or older and are dying off while the outdated 1950s traditionalism of the GOP isn't appealing to younger people.

        Republicans know they can only count on their motivated base overcoming the numbers against them for a decade, tops. So their two choices are to understand and appeal to the modern electorate or double down on obsolete cultural ideas and create doubt in the system as a whole.

        Most people aren't cynical and nihilistic enough to try to hold onto power by refusing to acknowledge the large-scale rejection of their social policies, but the GOP is run by those people. Buckle up, folks. The dying gasp of an outdated worldview is going to be a bumpy ride.

  19. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    Remember what's at stake in the midterms, everybody. Remember how wonderful things have been with Democrats controlling the White House and Congress.

    In 2022 Democrats have raised the minimum wage by: $0.00 / hour

    In 2022 Reason.com benefactor Charles Koch's net worth has increased by: $3.86 billion

    #VoteDemocratToHelpCharlesKoch
    #BlueWave2022

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Everything is so much better now.

  20. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    A new low for FBI fearmongering?

    Not even close.

    Wait, I'm getting really confused though. Are we supposed to trust the FBI as the elite, 100% trustworthy, sterling reputation law enforcement officers who would never, ever do anything politically motivated and only pursue people if they have airtight evidence of criminal wrongdoing? Or are they fearmongering, power-hungry political hacks?

    I'm really having trouble keeping up.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Come on, all the FBI has ever done is

      1. Act as a blackmail operation for J.Edgar Hoover for over 50 years.
      2. Serve as Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon's personal spy agency on Americans and especially political opponents.
      3. Go into business with the Irish mob in Boston for 20 years
      4. Operate a child porn server distributing millions of child porn images over the course of nearly 2 years.
      5. Literally know the identities of the 9-11 hijackers, know they were in the country to do something bad, but fuck up and allow them to pull it off only to blame INS for not arresting them for overstaying their VISAs. This despite the fact that the FBI never told INS the guys were dangerous or gave INS any reason to think they were any different than couple of million other people who are overstaying their VISAs at any given time.
      6. Run a corrupt and incompetent crime lab whose corruption and mistakes invalidated thousands of criminal convictions and resulted in the conviction of God only knows how many innocent people.
      7. Try to frame Donald Trump as a Russian agent including framing his incoming National Security advisor for perjury which resulted in grave damage to people's faith in government and significantly handicapped a lawfully elected President's ability to do his job.

      I mean come, a few mistakes have been made. They happen. If you don't love the FBI, you just hate the police or something.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        I'm just glad they're finally going after pro-life protestors who stand on the sidewalk near abortion clinics and concerned parents who raise their voices too loudly at schoolboard meetings. These domestic terrorists need to be brought to justice so the good people of America can go back to firebombing pregnancy support centers and setting up (non-insurrectionist) anarchist autonomous zones in major cities

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Could anything be more urgent than charging someone over a shoving match that happened two years ago and that the local police didn't think was worth pursuing? Say what you want about the FBI, they certainly have their priorities.

      2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

        You forgot about Morley the guy who built the Boston marathon bombs. The FBI made that go away fast

      3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        Efram Zimbalist Jr must be turning over in his grave. I wonder if his daughter is still teh hot

  21. JesseAz   3 years ago

    I'm mighty suspicious of a "trend" for which a federal agency can produce no data and only one relevant example. (And the FBI doesn't even have the details right on that one—the boy was coming from Portland, Texas, not Portland, Oregon.) One or a few criminal drivers does not constitute a "trend."

    Do you remain suspicious of the increase in domesticated terror shown by counting every J6 arrest as a separate event?

  22. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1585466211634069504

    Still one of my favorite "we've-lost-our-ever-luvin-minds" vignettes. The Euthanasia Society of Germany and Switzerland made the determination in late 2021 that: "EUTHANASIA ONLY FOR VACCINATED AND RECOVERED!"

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Jfree approves.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        His ranting he is still right yesterday was amazing.

    2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      The left should have died with the Soviet Union. Instead of admitting the truth that their ideas were shit, they just went insane.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        There has to be a societal equivalent to "never stick your dick in crazy".

        1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

          "Never Stick Your Dick In Crazy" on a Gold flag? With a Gadsden Snake curled away from a mongoose posing doggy-style? 🙂

    3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Your terms are acceptable.

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

      Well since Covid is one of the most lethal virus man has ever known, it be a bit of overkill wouldn't it?

    5. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      Can we do everyone a favor and combine the two in the vax boosters.

  23. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    U.S. GDP Grew 2.6% in Third Quarter, Recession Fears Persist

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-gdp-economic-growth-third-quarter-2022-11666830253

    What? Lamestream media has to throw in "Recession Fears Persist" on a strong economic report?

    Of course the Fed is going to make sure that recession occurs by 2023.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      2% growth and 10% inflation is called "Stagflation" you fucking retard. Take the daily talking points somewhere where people don't know anything about economics. God you are fucking stupid.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        You're full of shit, Trump-tard.

        What Is Stagflation?
        Stagflation is an economic cycle characterized by slow growth and a high unemployment rate accompanied by inflation. Economic policymakers find this combination particularly difficult to handle, as attempting to correct one of the factors can exacerbate another.

        https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stagflation.asp

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          2.8% is slow growth. And unemployment is high when you take into account the labor participation rate, which is the lowest it has been in 40 years.

          Thanks for proving my point. You are so fucking stupid, even when the concept is explained to you, you still can't understand it.

          You make up for being stupid by being a racist and a pervert who is into child porn. So, you have that going for you.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            "unemployment is high when you take into account the labor participation rate, which is the lowest it has been in 40 years."

            The fifty-centing cunt and his bosses somehow think that the average person isn't aware of that.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

              Oh shit. Briggs has called in the HNIC.

              1. Sevo   3 years ago

                turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                  The Cult of Trump is meeting here now! It's a full house!

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                    Jealous that your NAMBLA meeting has fewer people?

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                You post about shit which you have no idea and then have the nerve to get pissy? Briggs nailed it, you are a fucktard.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                  Briggs is too stupid to understand "stagflation" and I set him right with a real definition.

                  He should clean up his puddle.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                    Right. You were the one shouting in all caps about Herschel Walker yesterday like a total moron.

                  2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                    You gave the definition that confirmed what I said. Everyone reading this sees that. You are just pathetic.

                2. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  Shrike is a dumb mother fucker. 31 states still have fewer total jobs than 2019.

                  https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/sep/23/report-shows-31-states-and-dc-still-have-fewer-job/

                  1. Nelson   3 years ago

                    So your complaint is that job growth is positive in every state (and the US as a whole, where we are less than 100,000 jobs short of the Trump peak from 2019) since Biden took office, plus unemployment is low? What does a good labor market look like to you? O% unemployment and 20 million new jobs a year?

            2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

              Weird, if a man explains something, w/o knowing that she doesn't know it, to a woman, there's an immature term for it. The fact that left-leaning folks, progressives, and women do the same damned thing all the damned time never crosses their minds. Case in point.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                The left likes to call it "mansplaining". The rest of the world uses "patronizing".

          2. Nelson   3 years ago

            "And unemployment is high when you take into account the labor participation rate, which is the lowest it has been in 40 year"

            Let's start with basic facts:
            -The labor participation rate is the labor force (all people over 16 who are employed or are unemployed and actively looking for work) divided by the civilian noninstitutional population (all people over 16 excluding military and people in institutions (corrections facilities or residential care facilities). https://www.bls.gov/cps/definitions.htm#population
            -The unemployment rate is the percentage of people who don't have a job, but are actively looking for one. It is a wholly included subset of the labor participation rate.

            So your claim that unemployment is higher considering the low labor participation rate (which includes all unemployment) makes no sense.

            Then there's your claim that the labor participation rate is "the lowest it has been in 40 years", I assume you mean except for during the Trump administration, which included the lowest point (60.2% in April 2020) since before the Carter administration. If you want to remove the months of the pandemic as anamolies, draw the trend line since the high (67.3% in Jan-Apr 2000). The drop in the labor participation rate is a 22+ year trend, and we are right where the trend of the last 2+ decades expects us to be. So the labor participation rate isn't the lowest, nor is it anamolous.

            The unemployment rate, on the other hand, is actually at a 40 year low, at 3.5%.

            So what does a low unemployment rate, an unfilled demand for workers, and a low labor participation rate mean? It means everyone who is willing to work for the wage companies are offering is already working. That's why the unemployment rate is low, because those who are willing to accept the wage offered have a job (and also can switch jobs quickly if they wish).

            Usually in this situation employers raise wages to attract workers. They haven't done that, so there is a sizable pool of workers that are available, just not lookong for work due to the compensation employers are offering.

            This is what happens when the savings rate (which grew during the pandemic) is high. You can afford to wait for the job or the salary that you want.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago (edited)

        2% growth and 10% inflation is called “Stagflation” you fucking retard.

        God damn, you’re stupid, Briggs.

        It’s like you flunked out of Liberty or Trump University.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Shut up you fucking pervert. Again, 2.8% growth is slow growth. And it is also likely to be adjusted down and certainly isn't going to remain that high going forward. More importantly, the labor force participation rate is in the toilet and we have 10% inflation with no end in sight. That is called stagflation. You literally made my point for me. You are so fucking stupid, you don't even understand when you score an own goal. You are just fucking pathetic. You literally can't even cut and paste the talking points they send you.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

            2.8% growth is slow growth

            Your hero, Fatass Donnie, averaged only 1.6% over four years. You bragged about his economy.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              When you have no inflation and high employment, 2.8% is good. When you have high inflation and terrible employment, it is stagflation. Numbers have to be read in context. Doing that requires a level of intelligence you likely have never possessed.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                Forbes says employment is unprecedented and "incredible". Those commies!

                The September Jobs Report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics was released on schedule at 8:30 this morning. Once again – for the 21st consecutive month – it was solid, to say the least – or in most cases, spectacular. This month the economy came in with 263,000 jobs added, the unemployment rate dropped 0.2% to 3.5%, another 261,000 workers came off the unemployment roles, and 204,000 workers joined the ranks of the employed.
                Normally, this would be a bigger story than it is today, but following the previous 20 months of unprecedented – actually, incredible – job market performance, it’s just another piece of very good news. While September’s total is the lowest since December 2020, it would rank as the 17th best of the 120 months in the decade preceding it.

                https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliamdur/2022/10/07/september-jobs-report-another-strong-performance/?sh=60bb75412b47

                Briggs, your ignorance is obvious.

                1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                  Forbes is lying. The unemployment rate is only meaningful when read in context with the labor force participation rate. If millions of people have given up and stop looking for work, and they have, you have an unemployment problem. It just doesn't show up in the unemployment rate because those people are not counted as "unemployed"

                  Go lie to someone who is dumb enough to believe your lies. Don't try lying to people who know better. Basically, you are a retard and should avoid talking to adults and normally intelligent people. It never works out very well for you. It never will.

                  1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                    Forbes is lying

                    You guys never stop digging. It is hilarious and sad that you are so committed to GOP propaganda.

                    Our economy is resilient in spite of Sleepy Joe and Fatass Donnie - not because of either.

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                      Not nearly as sad as your commitment to posting kiddie porn, you hicklib pederast.

                    2. Sevo   3 years ago

                      Fuck off and die, lying pile of lefty shit.

                    3. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                      I didn't write the economics books I studied in college, I just read and learned from them. What Forbes is saying here is bullshit and they know it. It is nothing but boob bait for retards like you. Appealing to authority is not convincing dipshit.

                  2. Nelson   3 years ago

                    "The unemployment rate is only meaningful when read in context with the labor force participation rate."

                    The unemployment rate is included in the labor participation rate.

                    And the present LPR is on the trend line for the last 20+ years. Which is partially attributable to the largest demographic cohort in American history (the baby boomers) dying or entering care facilities.

                    Finally, in January 2018 (a year after Trump took office) the LPR was 62.7%. In January 2022 (same point in Biden's Presidency) it was 62.2%. You seem to be insinuating that .5% is a drastic drop. Except, of course, it is a 2% rise from April 2020, when Trump hit 60.2%.

                    You keep trying to redefine clearly defined concepts and overhype (or straight-up ... misstate) statistics and data so you can say we are experiencing stagflation. Why are you doing that? It's weird.

                2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  Seriously Shrike. You're trying to piss on our heads and tell us it's gentle spring rains.

                  Do you think that the average person isn't aware that more of their friends and families are unemployed than ever before? That they're suddenly having trouble affording gas, groceries and utilities?
                  Do you think that they give a fuck that Raytheon went up 2.8%?

                  1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                    He really believes that Mother. He is actually that stupid. It is amazing how stupid he is.

                    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                      You two shit from the same asshole.

                    2. Sevo   3 years ago

                      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled slimy pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

                    3. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                      You are the dumbest person on the internet shreek. As disgusting as you are, you are kind of funny. I never seen a person so stupid who is convinced they are smart. I should feel sorry for you but I can't help but laugh.

                  2. Super Scary   3 years ago

                    Yeah, I want to live in the world SPB2 lives in where most things aren't more expensive than they were 2 or 3 years ago.

                  3. Nelson   3 years ago (edited)

                    “Do you think that the average person isn’t aware that more of their friends and families are unemployed than ever before?”

                    Then you should definitely move. Employers here are dying for workers. In fact, there are jobs available all over the US.

                    Granted, there are a lot of people who aren’t willing to work for the wages being offered. Usually that forces employers to offer better wages. For some reason, that hasn’t been happening.

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

              "" Fatass Donnie, averaged only 1.6% over four years""

              That counts -3.4 % for 2020. Are you blaming Trump for the pandemic?

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                Are you blaming Trump for the pandemic

                No.

                But all presidents deal with economic shock.

                As us golfers say "there isn't room on the scorecard for your excuses".

                1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

                  ""Fatass Donnie, averaged only 1.6% over four years""

                  This is why you catch so much shit. You are clearly placing the blame on Trump with no caveat regarding the pandemic. It's all Trump.

                  1. Nelson   3 years ago

                    I thought that the results of pandemic restrictions were the responsibility of the President at the time. Is that not what we're doing any more?

                2. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

                  Do you think presidents control the economy like you control a golf swing?

      3. Nelson   3 years ago (edited)

        "2% growth and 10% inflation is called “Stagflation”"

        No, stagflation is low growth, high inflation, and high unemployment over a sustained period. You can’t take something that requires three conditions and ignore one of them.

        Don’t take my word for it: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/stagflation/

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      Remember when we went into a recession last quarter so they just changed the definition of recession? good times.

    4. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      We all may disagree with each other from time to time. I don't agree with mother, Jesse, Briggs, sevo, or Brady on everything, hell it's probably close to 50/50.

      But everyone in the comments agree that you should turn yourself in for crimes against children.

      1. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

        Here we disagree, MAPs should be up against the wall or better yet, swinging from rafters of their own volition.

  24. JimboJr   3 years ago

    Oof anyone watch that Fetterman debate performance?

    Is the DNC strategy maybe trying to put someone out there who's word salads make Kamala's a little less embarrassing?

    Also can we talk about how he was about as coherent as Kamala?

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Kamala is the Daniel Webster of our generation

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        If Daniel Webster started each day with a fifth of Jack Daniels and a handful of stupid pills.

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      The Eagles!!!

    3. HorseConch   3 years ago

      I would like to see Fetterman, Katie Hobbs, Kamala, and AOC lead an intellectual debate. It would require a lot of beer and induce a lot of laughs.

  25. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    “Wage growth is up, which is good for consumers, and that helps their balance sheet,” said Mark Begor, chief executive of the credit-reporting company Equifax Inc. on an earnings call this month. “Obviously, inflation is a bad guy, and it is hurting lots of consumers. But even with inflation, consumers are still out there spending and traveling and doing all the things that they do in their lives.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-gdp-economic-growth-third-quarter-2022-11666830253

    FAKE NEWS!

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      Thanks for this Mr. Buttplug.

      I needed some good economic news after wingnut.com operation "ABC News" ran this anti-Biden disinformation about things being so bad, people are considering working 2 jobs.

      #DefendBidenAtAllCosts
      #BestEconomyEver

    2. Winnie SC   3 years ago

      Are you gay?

      You come across very gay.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Nah. He's a pedophile.

        1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

          he's a gay pedo

    3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Are wages up 10% across the board?

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        I just got a 10% raise. You didn't?

    4. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      It’s a miracle! Economic “recovery” just before the midterms!
      But not that it was bad or anything, but it is recovering.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        You want to bet on whether that figure gets "unexpectedly" adjusted down at some point after the election? For an economy suffering from inflation like it is, it is a shitty growth rate anyway. 2.8% is great if you have stable prices and high employment. When you have 10% inflation and low employment, it is pretty weak tea.

        But it gives retards like Shreek a talking point to cut and paste for a few days. And giving lefty retards mendacious talking points is about all the Biden Administration has at this point.

    5. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

      Economic uncertainty is growing and many economists are worried about the possibility of a recession in the coming 12 months. They expect the Federal Reserve’s efforts to combat high inflation by raising interest rates will further weigh on the economy.
      ...
      Still, spending gains have moderated this year, and many economists expect consumers, as well as businesses, will retreat more as rising interest rates take effect. In addition, if the labor market takes a downward turn, consumers might rein in their spending.
      ...
      Residential investment fell at an annual rate of 17.8% in the second quarter. Home prices declined in August at the fastest pace in more than a decade. The new-home market has shown signs of weakness, with sharply lower sales and a drop in new building.

      - From the linked article.

  26. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    Museum staff is in on it.

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1585627634188582914

    NOW - Attack on Johannes Vermeer's famed "Girl with a Pearl Earring" painting at a museum in The Hague.

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Is she now a girl with a pearl necklace?

    2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      We need to start just shooting these people on sight. There is no replacing something like a Vermeer and it is just a matter of time before one of them destroys something priceless. They only do it because they think they can and in fact are getting away with it.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        I'd appreciate it if, once their hands are glued to something, a bystander would run up and pants them.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          And cut off their nuts. Or once they have glued themselves to something, the authorities declare that anyone can punch them in the face without legal consequences. The museums could set up a booth where people paid for the privilege of punching them. I would pay good money for that and I doubt I am lone in that.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

            And cut off their nuts.

            And give them the free transition they so desperately want? I think not.

          2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            Imagine that report on the 6 O'Clock news.....

            Dare to dream, Briggs....dare to dream

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              These fuckers better hope I never get a terminal disease and no longer have anything to lose.

              1. perlmonger   3 years ago

                "Project Mayhem says hi, boyo."

      2. Ragnarredbeard   3 years ago

        They get arrested, released, maybe a fine. Fine is paid by someone else because its a sure bet none of these people have money. What they should be doing is throwing them in county lockup for a couple of weeks.

      3. perlmonger   3 years ago

        Brass knuckles, at the very least.

  27. Winnie SC   3 years ago

    Government isn't ALWAYS lying to you.

    Sometimes it is just being stupid.

  28. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

    One or a few criminal drivers does not constitute a "trend."

    It does if your primary goal is to keep people in a state of constant fear and panic. COVID isn't doing it like it used to, so they've got to find something else. By year's end I suspect they'll be trotting out the old "satanic cults" moral panic from the '80s.

    1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      "If these trends continue... Ayyyyyee!" - Disco Stu

    2. Nardz   3 years ago

      And Reason will pimp whatever hysteria they're told to (see: all things Trump, white supremacy, Christian nationalism, any popular -ist prejudice/bigotry, covid as recent examples)

  29. Ajsloss   3 years ago

    O/T: Did anyone see that USA Today ran an article yesterday wherein the experts said the rainbow fentanyl in your Halloween candy is "absolutely ridiculous"? Finally, mainstream media comes to their senses...

    A couple paragraphs in, they stated the panic ensued when the Republican National Committee... (ah, panic averted because it was pouncing republicans).

  30. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The media did not trick voters into disliking inflation...

    In fact, they couldn't trick voters into believing it was transitory or actually good for them.

  31. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    Pennsylvania election official warns midterm results will take 'days' to process

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pennsylvania-election-official-warns-midterm-results-will-take-days-to-process/ar-AA13pWsi

    1. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

      BREAKING: Pennsylvania Democrat Officials Mailed Out 240,000 Ballots to Unverified Voters! …UPDATE: Now at 255,000 Unverified Voters!
      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/breaking-pennsylvania-democrat-officials-mailed-240000-ballots-unverified-voters/

      1. Nelson   3 years ago

        It's The Gateway Pundit. The one thing you can be certain of is that it's pure bullshit. An intentionally misrepresented statement here, an out-of-context statistic there, and BAM! You have sophistry that credulous fools will eat up like candy.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      If the central PA counties are smart, because they know this is going to happen, they should slow-count their ballots until Pittsburgh and Philadelphia release their vote totals.

      The only way to ultimately nerf these "last-minute ballot counts" is to give the counties a deadline to report their ballots, or ALL of them are deemed void. That's what Virginia had to do last year when Fairfax County started playing reindeer games on delaying their reporting totals, and it's the main reason McAuliffe isn't governor of Virginia right now.

      1. Nelson   3 years ago

        I can't tell if you are trying to say they were manufactiring fraudulent votes on the fly or that they were intentionally trying to report last because ... I have no idea why, but you definitely seem to be claiming that the order of reporting has an impact on the outcome. Which is just nuts. Or that there is a real-time fraud conspiracy all the time, which is even crazier.

    3. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Don't worry. Reason and the MSM will promptly ignore this story. Election in PA fortified.

      1. HorseConch   3 years ago

        Will this be a new most-secure election ever, or will it be a close second to the last one? I can't wait to see Fetterman drooling in front of is Office of the Senator-Elect backdrop like Biden did 2 years ago.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          Biden assembled the greatest vote fraud operation in history, or so he claimed. It's a high bar but I have faith that the Democrats can break their record in November.

  32. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...people accused Swift of fatphobia.

    If T-Swizzle can be canceled, no one is safe.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      If skinny girls can't look down their noses at fat chicks, what is the world coming to?

      1. Ska   3 years ago

        If mediocre guys can't look down at a fat chick's nose, what is the world coming to?

    2. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Real wrath-of-God type of stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, fat girls shaming skinny blond preppy girls - MASS HYSTERIA!

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        I don't want to live in a world where fat women can shame skinny hot women. Just stop the world and let me off if that is how it is going to be.

        1. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

          That's pretty much how it is already.

          I say we take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            And people wonder why no one is having children. A society that celebrates fat women doesn't exactly put men in the mood.

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

              Please tell me you have a fucking newsletter I can subscribe to

        2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

          You just wait until Tyla comes out. The Plus Sized Rapture is well nigh upon us

  33. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The parents of Erik Cantu—the 17-year-old San Antonio boy shot by former San Antonio Police officer James Brennand—are calling for attempted murder charges as their son fights for his life.

    I'm surprised prosecutors didn't go for that, as it would give them the least chance of actually convicting the cop.

  34. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Is Christian nationalism growing or declining? Both...

    We need another true option there if we want to achieve a holy trinity.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Without carrying membership cards and electing a board of directors, how are we to know if Christian Nationalism even exists or not?

  35. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The United States on Wednesday imposed a slew of new sanctions against Iranian officials involved in the ongoing crackdown on nationwide protests in Iran...

    Or insurrections, if you will.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Did they have tiki torches?

  36. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Earlier this week, the latest National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) report showed significant declines in student math and reading scores. The Atlantic writer Derek Thompson attempts to answer the big question: How much of this learning loss related to school shutdown orders?"

    Not to worry, progressives. Your leaders and propagandists have already proven that (1) learning loss did not happen and (2) learning loss only impacted brown people.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      How much of this learning loss related to school shutdown orders?

      The answer is obviously zero. It's just a weird coincidence.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        If there was any learning loss, it's probably because all those kids were traumatized by January 6 Roe v. Wade being overturned xenophobic Republicans the looming threat of having to get their parents' okay before cutting their dicks off and injecting themselves with hormones.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          If closing the schools for months had no effect on children's education and learning, can we just close the damn things now and let me have my property taxes back?

          These idiots are slitting their own throats. Even if they somehow win this argument, which they won't, how do they plan to sell the next "money for the children" school spending increase?

  37. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    It illustrates how deeply the Biden administration has embedded 'controversial, unrelated progressive causes into the regulatory process...'

    Deep, you say?

  38. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Germany plans to legalize marijuana."

    As a fuel source?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Everybody must get stoned.

  39. mad.casual   3 years ago

    Please sing Wheels on the Bus, please sing Wheels on the Bus

    Level of surprise that the phrase "Most of us went to school on a yellow bus thanks to Joe Biden." didn't come out of her mouth: 75%.

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      “Most of us went to school on a yellow bus thanks to Joe Biden.”

      Wasn't she claiming that she went to school on a yellow school bus despite Joe Biden a couple years ago?

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      Hey so she misspoke. She meant to say she went to school on a short yellow buss

  40. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    Kamala: “Who doesn’t love a yellow school bus, right? Can you raise your hand if you love a yellow school bus? Many of us went to school on the yellow school bus, right?"

    She then went on: "And how many of you gave your first BJ on a yellow school bus? Nothing like taking it from behind bent over a seat in the back row of a yellow school bus, right?"

  41. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    "Is Christian nationalism growing or declining? Both,"

    The Fundie-Nuts are emboldened by their abortion win.

    'Griswald' is next on their kill list.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Literally no one wants birth control outlawed.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        The Pill is an abortifacient. Bible Beaters want it outlawed. Many Fundie pharmacists won't fill prescriptions.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          You are a retard. The Pill is not an abortifacient. It regulates how a period is done and keeps egg and sperm from meeting. If you'd even do a fucking Wikipedia search, you'd know that, you lying, dishonest shit.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            Shriek is an incel who jerks off to kiddie porn, you think he has any idea how a sex life with a real, actual woman works?

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        Kansas nurse practitioner says CVS fired her over her religious stance on birth control
        Andrew Bahl
        Topeka Capital-Journal
        October 2022

        https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/state/2022/10/14/kansas-nurse-practitioner-says-she-was-fired-over-birth-control-stance-religious-exemption-abortion/69563437007/

        WE"RE GOING AFTER THE SINNERS BOYS! NOW THAT WE GOT OUR BIBLE BELIEVING JUDGES!

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled pile of shit and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      “Marriage is between a man and a woman” making a comeback?

      https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/gov-mcmaster-makes-clear-in-debate-he-still-opposes-gay-marriage/article_709610e2-5580-11ed-be4a-e753752e45bd.html

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Christians oppose gay marriage (or at least related legal status).
        BLM opposes all marriage (or at least related legal status).

        Meh.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        When a wingnut starts blabbing about "religious freedom" you know someone is about to lose some liberty.

        You would think "libertarians" would oppose these liberty hating douchebags but the Cult of Donnie supports them.

      3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        the gov should be out of the marriage business entirely.

        1. Nelson   3 years ago

          Preach, brother, preach! Marriage should be a private contract between consenting adults.

  42. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Does this mean Germany is backing out of the UN's Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961?

  43. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Biden: Extra Leg Room Fees on Airplanes Is Racist

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

      Poor and inner city passengers need an extra 6 inches of third leg room every bit as much as white people Mayor Lightfoot.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Fucking LOL and almost spitting coffee.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

      Because we all know "the niggras" are tall? After all, a lot of them are basketball players. Is that his logic? WTF is he on about?

    4. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      so the dems are about to get slaughtered and the hail mary tactic is to try to convince people that airlines charging fees for extra legroom is racist?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        They're desperate at this point.

    5. Super Scary   3 years ago

      When everything is racist, nothing is racist.

  44. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Jennifer-Ruth Green's sexual assault records released by the Air Force to an oppo research firm

    Every institution has been corrupted

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      “We said, ‘No, please don’t [publish the assault] – and they did it anyway,” Green.

      You'd think a white Democrat metaphorically raping a black woman would trigger the spilling of more ink.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        NYT: The rise of the right wing... uppity negro woman.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Democrats: "You'd think these niggers would know their place by now."

          True in 1822. True in 1922. True in 2022.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            Democrats, knowing what's best for black people since 1828.

            1. Utkonos   3 years ago

              #StayOnTheDamnPlantation

      2. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

        You’d think a white Democrat metaphorically raping a black woman would trigger the spilling of more ink.

        OTOH, a white democrat diddling "the help" is a tradition that goes back all the way to colonial times.

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          The Democratic Party wasn't around until 1828.

          One can pick a date for when Colonial times ended (July 4th, 1776? September 3rd, 1783? March 9th, 1789?) but the United States or America was clearly no longer a colony in 1828.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            White Mike's little game here is to pretend that the attitude ACA ascribes to the Democrats couldn't have existed prior to their founding, hence ACA's accusation is wrong.

            What a cheap fuck.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            You do realize that there was a predecessor party to the Party of the Jackass?

  45. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    A pain I'm sure many of us have often experienced

    I was rejected from a job because my penis is too big

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      I don't understand why he just doesn't wear bigger pants.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        If you got it, flaunt it.

    2. mad.casual   3 years ago

      It’s thicker than my forearm, it’s about 7 [inches] around

      Tallest midget.

      1. American Mongrel   3 years ago

        Lol, 7.5 around.
        The soup can

    3. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Is this what they call "humble-bragging"?

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      But her(his) face!

    5. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      I've always had an issue with women finding my penis to be exactly big enough. It's hard. They won't leave it alone.

    6. Barfman9000   3 years ago

      But he skipped leg day.

  46. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Arizona Poll: Lake leads by eleven, but the shock is that Blake Masters is in a statistical tie with Mark Kelly.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Lake and her incredible rack seem to be destined for great things.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        They are rather shapely and probably bounce a lot when she gets it standing up

    2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      That's not so surprising. You can hear Lake's name all over the place, but it's rare to see Blake Masters in the news.

    3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago (edited)

      Kari is a MILF no doubt.

      She used to be a liberal before she figured out how to bamboozle the Trump open-mouth bass fishery.

      That pond is filled for another cycle.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Lake is over the age of 10 and therefore not what you are into. Stop pretending there is anything normal about you.

      2. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd lies; it's what turd does.

      3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        dont talk about open mouths ever again

  47. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    WEF gonna do what WEF was always going to do.

    Sunak Bans Fracking (Again)

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Is he running for PM or pope?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        Woke Pope.

  48. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    The Media’s Cover-Up of John Fetterman

  49. Jerry B.   3 years ago

    “The United States on Wednesday imposed a slew of new sanctions against Iranian officials involved in the ongoing crackdown on nationwide protests in Iran”

    So, does this mean we’ll shortly be asking them to increase oil production?

  50. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    The Right-Wing Election Denier Who Could Flip a Black, Democratic Stronghold in Alabama

    Hahahahahaha, choke on it you lying bitches. These are your wages from your massive gaslighting campaign.

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Why isn't Stacey Abrams ever described as an Election Denier?

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        Dunno, but HRC certainly was.

      2. Super Scary   3 years ago

        The media has worked hard to redefine certain terms to only refer back to the 2020 election. Examples include "election denier" and "the big lie".

    2. JimboJr   3 years ago

      Arent they all PREMPTIVELY denying 2022 and 2024?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        THAT'S DIFFERENT!

        Just like 2016 was different.

        Because we say so.

  51. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    "Nooooooo, don't stop our lovely little war! Negotiating is for pussies." - t. Chicago Sun Times editorial board

    Stick to U.S. policy on Ukraine

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      God forbid we end what has become the bloodiest war since Vietnam and the biggest risk of nuclear Armageddon since the 1980s. No, our buddies in the defense industry need to make more billions.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        Well, we also need to make sure that none of our elites' massive grift and money-laundering gets exposed. And the biolabs have to remain secret.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          I am pro Ukraine. I love it that they are kicking the Russian's asses. I don't think there is any way to defend or justify Russia invading. That being said, this war needs to end. The point has been made. Russia has been totally humiliated and won't be too keen on invading anyone else any time soon. We have to live with Russia. They are not going away. We need to stop this war and figure out some kind of settlement everyone can live with.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            It's quite simple:

            Putin sends his Putineers back to Russia's original borders...
            frees and returns all the 2 million+ Ukrainians kidnapped for slave labor that he has scattered all over Russia...
            frees all the Russian conscripts and dissenters...
            pays Ukraine for all damaged property...
            Then Vladamir Putin, Alexandr Dugin, and Patriarch Kirill and all their sympathizers go in a bunker and give themselves bullets in their basal ganglia lizard brains.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              That's never going to happen.

              Do you want a meaningful solution, a hot war with Russia, or another five years of the current dipshittery?

              1. perlmonger   3 years ago

                The first three on that list seem potentially plausible.

                1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  Not really.

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    Maybe #2 (if it’s that many, no idea). Does Vegas give odds on Donbas being part of Russia, or an autonomous region?

                    It must be nice to be willing to allow those people to live in a continuous war zone indefinitely, starting in 2014, for the sake of the MIC.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Stop looking backwards. Where is Hunter this week?

  52. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Years ago I used to dislike Erdogan for fucking up Nato, nowadays I like Erdogan for fucking up Nato.

    Erdogan is betraying Nato for a Putin love-in

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      On the one hand, Erdogan is a fundamentalist shitbag, but on the other hand, fuck NATO. Hmm....how do I choose....?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Erdogan is Muslim Brotherhood, he's just a lot better at keeping his worst instincts in check than Morsi was in Egypt. I suspect that attempted coup against him was primarily because the military brass was not happy about his re-Islamification of the country.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          He wants to rebuild the Ottoman empire under the banner of socialist panarabism. He is not bright and fails to understand that literally no one in the Middle East or the Islamic world wants the Turks in charge of anything ever again. They would let the Iranians have the place before they let the Turks be back in charge. His whole project is doomed.

          1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

            If Obama were still president, he would lecture us on why that is an outdated mode of thinking and therefore any concern expressed over his rhetoric or actual actions is just racism.

            1. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

              Not to worry, the mainstream media will most likely be building that very narrative shortly, if they aren't already.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            He wants to rebuild the Ottoman empire under the banner of socialist panarabism.

            That's basically what the Muslim Brotherhood wants, Erdogan just has his own nationalist twist on it. Marxist anti-colonialism and Arab ethnonationalism has been a cornerstone of their ideology for decades. It's why so many Palestinians end up voting Democrat when they immigrate here, even the Greek Orthodox ones.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              It is also why what the west calls "Islamic Terrorism" really isn't Islamic. It is just the same leftist terrorism we have always had only using Islamic language and garb. Terrorism didn't exist in the Middle East until the USSR introduced it by funding groups like the MB and the PLO.

          3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

            I will support him of he changes Istanbul back to constantanople

            1. Utkonos   3 years ago

              Hey! That’s nobody’s business but the Turks!

            2. R Mac   3 years ago

              And New York back to New Amsterdam.

  53. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    the coalition of Government-That-Actually-Works

    ha, what is this coalition? Never heard of it.

  54. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Major Fuel Supplier On “Code Red” As Diesel Crisis Hits Southeast.

    “Poor pipeline shipping economics and historically low diesel inventories are combining to cause shortages in various markets throughout the Southeast. These have been occurring sporadically, with areas like Tennessee seeing particularly acute challenges.”

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Biden may be fucking up the trucking industry but he is making up for it by allowing a railway strike. I hope every has stocked up on candles, sterno stoves, and rammen noodles. This dumb son of a bitch is going to burn the whole fucking country down before he is threw. And it won't be the result of some 12 D chess Marxist plan to destroy the country. No, Biden, the people around him, and his supporters are just that fucking stupid. You can't have a civilization with people this stupid anywhere but insane asylums or assisted living facilities.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        And it won’t be the result of some 12 D chess Marxist plan to destroy the country. No, Biden, the people around him, and his supporters are just that fucking stupid. You can’t have a civilization with people this stupid anywhere but insane asylums or assisted living facilities.

        Once marxism becomes a biological foundation of someone's worldview, these sort of go hand in hand.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          It makes people stupid because it allows people to succeed based entirely on their willingness and ability to repeat whatever talking points the party requires of them. They are totally out of touch with reality. Worse, I am starting to think that when their dipshit professors and college told them all truth was relative and that there is no objective reality, these dumb asses believed it. They didn't understand it was just an intellectual exercise or in some cases a long con. No, they took it literally and actually believe it. And that is really terrifying when you think about it.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            Worse, I am starting to think that when their dipshit professors and college told them all truth was relative and that there is no objective reality, these dumb asses believed it. They didn’t understand it was just an intellectual exercise or in some cases a long con. No, they took it literally and actually believe it.

            That was the point. Colleges basically turned marxism, in all its current forms, from a romanticist socio-economic theory inspired by the Industrial Revolution, into a religious movement starting in the late 60s. You have your fall of man (division of labor), perpetual struggle between good and evil (oppressors vs. the oppressed) and a deterministic expectation that paradise will emerge (the dialectic of society's contradictions being continually critiqued until they are stripped away, leaving a world where no one is suffering and everyone is equal).

            The goal for these professors is to obtain converts to that religion and perpetuate the marxist revolution, not educate young adults.

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago

        East Coast fuel markets are facing diesel supply constraints due to market economics and tight inventories.

        Poor pipeline shipping economics and historically low diesel inventories are combining to cause shortages in various markets throughout the Southeast. These have been occurring sporadically, with areas like Tennessee seeing particularly acute challenges.

        I blame The Jones Act.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          The first amendment of the high seas!

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Permission to speak freely? Denied!

        2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

          I blame The Jones Act.

          TREASON!!!!!!

        3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          The rest of the world takes advantage of waterways to transport goods much more than this country, precisely because of The Jones Act. Without it I believe we'd have significantly fewer trucks on the highway.

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Without it I believe we’d have significantly fewer trucks on the highway.

            "Repealing The Jones Act would lead to more free trade globally, which would mean fewer trucks on the roadways. What's really holding HI and PR back is their dependence on ground freight."

            That's a pretty good impression. Are you sure you don't work for CATO?

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

            Well, it's fine if you're on a coast, but here, in the middle of the country, removing the Jones Act will do nothing one way or the other. While we have waterways (Mississippi River, Missouri River, Illinois Waterway, Ohio River), they're American staffed anyway, and we'll still have the same number of trucks on the road.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Most of the population is on the coast. I think ships being able to touch the country more than once without being Jones Act compliant would reduce truck freight a lot. I could be wrong. Happens a lot.

      3. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Railway strike?
        #Blame DagnyTaggart

  55. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

    'Students also suffered from sick and absent teachers, the death or severe illness of parents and other family members, and just a general loss of focus during a stressful period.' Erm, no chance the 'sick and absent teachers' were related to covid fear, is there? Death or severe illness and other potentially 'traumatic' distractions occur, the choice to allow them to cause a loss of focus is personal. None of this changes the fact that there were significant impacts on learning created by policy set by public health experts, experts and policy applauded by the atlantic.

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

      It's just deflecting and blaming COVID from a slightly different direction.

  56. Sevo   3 years ago

    "I'll begin to answer this extremely fraught question by stating the obvious: School closures were not the sole pandemic disruption to kids' lives that might explain a decline in achievement. Students also suffered from sick and absent teachers, the death or severe illness of parents and other family members, and just a general loss of focus during a stressful period."

    Uh, dealing with sickness and deaths represents, what, a 1-2% increase over base-line?
    There was "stress", mostly caused by the tin-pot dictator wannabes and the fucking chicken-littles (Yes, JFree, you miserable pile of shit, you OWN this)
    So that leaves the shut-downs; call it 25% 'stress' and 75% shitbags like Newsom.

    1. JimboJr   3 years ago

      JFree is the perfect avatar for the libs that destroyed the economy in the name of COVID hysteria

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        Well, if it saved just ONE life!!!!!

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Especially one semi-senile, asthmatic, 85-year-old life.

          1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

            I think it's not a good move to actively mock those who died. I think we can solemnly say that risk is not equal among populations and manage it as such. I think we can do that without actively mocking those who are at risk and those who died.

            1. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

              Do you mean those at risk and chose to push mitigating that risk onto others? Fuck them.

              1. D-Pizzle   3 years ago

                Any grandparent or great-grandparent who was okay with shutting down their grandchildren's lives in order to maybe prolong their own already long-lived lives needs an express pass to the chipper.

  57. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

    California opened its schools relatively late, and its students' scores declined less than the national average….

    I haven't read the report (yes, I'm lazy) but I'd be curious if the reason why CA's scores have declined less than the national average is because they were already at rock bottom to begin with, and now they're just drilling through bedrock. IOW, is it because they're actually doing better than other states or is it just because they can't really go much lower?

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      'CA opening it's schools later benefited students.' and 'Students are more equally served attending CA public schools as not.' are equally valid conclusions.

      It's... quizzical... that being on lockdown longer leads to better outcomes is the asserted stance.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Hmm, maybe kids in Cali schools get anti-learning.

    2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      the california schools already had extremely low scores

      1. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

        I figured it was that (scores can't get much worse) or CA schools are so shit that being away from them was actually better for students than being in them. Either way, the results of this study don't exactly say anything positive about CA schools.

    3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

      The top schools in California (I have a house in the second best school district in Cali, the best being south pasadena) boasts of a grade level math competancy of 50%

    4. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      It's a good question.

  58. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    or other rideshare drivers are actually widespread. Instead, the agency offers three "illustrative examples"—only two of which actually involve alleged criminal activity by drivers.

    Kind of like the New York Times talking to a homeless guy who has $5000 in jay walking tickets.

  59. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    Top 10 Reasons Republicans think the 2020 Election was Stolen
    https://gummibear737.substack.com/p/top-10-reasons-republicans-think

    Probably the most famous was the “Bellweather Counties” observation: Biden defeated Trump in only 1 of 19 “Bellweather Counties” which are counties where a majority of voters have supported the election winner in 8 of the last 9 elections.

    Biden won far more votes than Trump or Obama while winning far fewer counties than Trump or Obama.

    During my research, I found this anomaly which I thought was pretty relevant: In terms of votes that were available to Biden via absentee ballots in Pennsylvania by political identification of the voters, voting patterns would have had to be quite anomalous to coincide with his vote totals.

    In Pennsylvania, the Democratic-majority in the States Supreme Court modified election law (Act 77) enacted by the State Legislature after legal challenges by Democrats:

    They permitted the use of drop boxes, even though Act 77 did not.

    They extended the deadline to receive mail-in ballots to 5pm on the Friday following the election, even though Act 77 did not.

    They effectively ruled that mail-in ballots don’t need to go through a signature verification process, even though Act 77 required it.

    The problem is that the US Constitution very clearly states that how elections are held is under the purview of the State Legislature so there exists a question about the Constitutionality of the modifications granted by the State Supreme Court.

  60. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1584981077172817920

    Woke activists say they simply care more. But a pioneering psychologist, Sam Vaknin, who studies narcissism says, "The potential for aggression in victimhood movements is much larger than in the general population... Anything that is grievance-based leads to violence and death."

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Anything that is grievance-based leads to violence and death.

      No kidding. Fascism and communism were nothing but cults of the victim. To be a victim requires a perpetrator. And any ideology based on victimhood is inevitably going to justify revenge against the perceived perpetrators be that the Jews or the capitalist classes or whoever.

      1. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

        I saw a youtube clip from one of Jordan Peterson's lectures where he basically points out this exact same thing. He was speaking specifically about the Holodomor, but the same observation applies to any society that embraces victimhood culture, whether it's in form of Marxism/ Communism, Fascism, or modern day woke ideology.

      2. JimboJr   3 years ago

        And that is of course the logical endpoint. Every day they spend all of their time identifying as a victim with the common oppressor being white cis hetero men. Or 'Christian nationalists' as is their new more specific enemy. And they have amassed a huge number of people and cultural cache with this sentiment.

        At some point, they are naturally going to transition from "these people caused all of western society's problems" to "OK what are we going to do about these people who caused all the problems". Its human nature, unfortunately

      3. JimboJr   3 years ago

        Will add...Famous 'others' who were labeled as problematic by recent authoritarian movements that claimed victimhood:

        - Kulaks
        - The 5 'black' identities (farmers, landlords, etc) in China
        - Jews

        Tell me how the woke machine isn't on the pathway toward doing this with 'whites'

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          It is. Our only saving grace is that these people are morons and couldn't start a lawnmower much less a revolution.

      4. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   3 years ago

        Pretty much,
        Hitler didn't write a book call my great life. He called it my struggle. And is struggle was all of the people oppressing him

    2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      This is apparent to all sane people. Only the woke themselves need a study to show it.

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 years ago

      C’mon, man! That is just so terrible and unfair!

  61. Dillinger   3 years ago

    >>fatphobia

    nobody. wants. to. be. fat.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      How dare you!

    2. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

      Except Lizzo and people like her who find that they can use it to claim more victimhood points.

  62. Ra's al Gore   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1585631123379351553

    ALERT: Not only has
    @PayPal
    instituted $2500 fine for "misleading" information, etc it says it can hold ALL the money in your accounts for up to six months "if reasonably needed to protect against the risk of liability or if you have violated our Acceptable Use Policy."

  63. Sevo   3 years ago

    Hey, it's a start!

    "'Marxist environmentalist' and author Mike Davis dies at 76"
    [...]
    "Mike Davis, an author, activist and self-defined “Marxist environmentalist” whose greatest fears drove him to anticipate riots, fires and disease in such bestsellers as “City of Quartz” and “The Ecology of Fear,” has died at age 76..."
    https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/marxist-environmentalist-author-mike-davis-dies-76-92145856

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      The waiting room for Hell just had a spot open up I guess.

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        In the last hundred years, Marxism has failed in every single place where it's been tried, the NYT is finally admitting that climate change may not be the existential threat the NYT has claimed it to be for the last twenty years, and this guy's a best-selling author?

    2. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

      Now he's a good Marxist.

  64. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    I'm working on my first rap single, Peanuts. Lyrics are moving along - got the sample down.


    Fatass Donnie
    He spend da money
    He did the COVID
    And the PPP
    He cut the taxes
    For Zuck and Musk
    He tell the po folk
    You get my flation
    Fat ass Donnie
    He keep yo money

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled slimy pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
      Fuck off and die, asshole.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      2 Pac, you ain't. You don't even qualify for just white and nerdy, doofus.

      Please, keep your day job.

    3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      *throws a tomato*

    4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      Maybe you could modernize a classic from the Dead Milkmen.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3AO8hUwQpE

    5. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      That is not very good lyricism.

    6. JimboJr   3 years ago

      Your music's bad and you should feel bad!

  65. Eeyore   3 years ago

    Are Uber drivers also trying to give kids rainbow fentanyl?

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  67. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

    Next Tuesday, someone's going to get fucked in a very uncomfortable place.

    FJB

    12d

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      What, the back of a Volkswagen?

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        You know who else used Volkswagens to fuck with people?

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          Tennessee Steinmetz?

  68. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

    Biden assembled the greatest vote fraud operation in history, or so he claimed. It's a high bar but I have faith that the Democrats can break their record in November.

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