Elon Musk Buying Twitter Is Not the End of the World
Regular people are not so terminally online.

Elon Musk has once again offered to buy Twitter—at his original price of $44 billion. Given that the social media company is currently suing the world's wealthiest man in order to force him to purchase the company, it seems likely that Twitter might accept this proposal.
For some mainstream media reporters on the so-named disinformation beat, this prospect is abjectly terrifying. Ben Collins, a reporter for NBC News, encapsulates the consensus nicely:
For those of you asking: Yes, I do think this site can and will change pretty dramatically if Musk gets full control over it.
No, there is no immediate replacement.
If it gets done early enough, based on the people he's aligned with, yes, it could actually affect midterms.
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) October 4, 2022
Collins' fear is quite representative of what many media figures think about this prospective takeover of Twitter. Axios described Musk's behavior as akin to a supervillain, while Jeff Jarvis, a City University of New York journalism professor, lamented that he was witnessing the rise of Nazi Germany.
What scares them so much about Musk is simply that he has criticized Twitter's past efforts to moderate content, which in his view too frequently resulted in the muzzling of legitimate political speech. The most infamous example, of course, was Twitter's treatment of the New York Post's Hunter Biden story, which even Twitter's former CEO, Jack Dorsey, has admitted was a mistake.
But mainstream media figures tend to think social media needs more guardrails, not fewer. They have broadly adopted the framing that Twitter and Facebook are rife with misinformation, that it is the media's job to identify the misinformation, and that it is the platforms' job to eliminate it.
Such sweeping condemnations from the mainstream media often elide the fact that information is wrongly labeled misinformation with some frequency and that misinformation czars (both self-appointed and government-appointed) tend to get things wrong.
Indeed, Collins' assertion that Musk could acquire Twitter, vastly reorient it, and cause Republicans to win the midterms in a few short weeks, is telling. Some reporters on this beat are becoming serially guilty of overstating the importance of Twitter to general life. People get their news in all sorts of ways, from all sorts of sources. What happens on the blue bird site matters a great deal to Washington, D.C., policy makers and their media foes. Regular people are not so terminally online.
It remains to be seen what new policies Musk would implement if he takes over the site. He will likely find that content moderation at scale is much harder and more complicated than he thinks. But trying to make the site a bit more fair to alternative and contrarian political perspectives is not a project that should be greeted with apocalyptic denunciation.
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Not knowing where Jackie went, his Alzheimer's is about to the point where they won't be able to hide it for much longer, meds are starting to fail. Give it another year, with twitter becoming more permeable to videos of biden gaffes and other dem failings and kamala harris becoming the face of the party. The democrats could indeed be toast pretty soon.
The democrat party must come to and end. With all the committed Marxists removed.
If Harris can wait until the new year to eliminate old Joe, then she will be eligible for 2 terms. A full 10 years in all.
Good, though the powers that be will most likely sabotage that win somehow. No wonder Robby was allowed to take a libertarian lite position on this issue.
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https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/musk-to-purchase-twitter
All these signs pointed to Twitter remaining in its current (awful) hands. But a lawsuit filed by the Twitter shareholders may be the key to Musk ultimately acquiring Twitter after all. The shareholders claimed that the ‘bot talk’ was simply Musk trying to tank the deal — a deal that they didn’t even vote on until two weeks ago. Now to avoid going to trial, Musk has shoved all his chips into the middle of the table, once again offering to buy the company at an inflated price.
With so much control on the line, the game is essentially the same as it was in April: How does the Twitter Swamp find a way to avoid the Musk deal to prevent him from looking under the hood and telling us all about what he finds there? For now, it seems like they may have painted themselves into a corner by villainizing Musk.
I never understood the lawsuit against Musk to force him to go forward with the deal. Most of the shareholders don't seem to want Musk running Twitter. Yet they agreed to a lawsuit which will result in him running Twitter. Sure some of them will take the money and run, but why the big fuss against Musk if that's their plan.
Reason (so called) journalists most affected.
Journalists are mostly left wingers who see the world through a lens of comments and reports by other left wing journalists. They control the narrative in the big TV networks and most newspapers, so any change to the control is frightening; it took them decades to get where they are and they are loathe to give any ground.
If Twitter becomes nonpartisan it will be awful. If Twitter moves to the right it will be terrible.
It's not all of the left, but it is part of the left. A group of information gatekeepers that have been around for decades. When the public stopped demanding a semblance of objectivity they just stopped pretending. But then their broadcast monopoly went away. And then their newspapers lost sales. Today their major gatekeeping hold is on Twitter and they are losing that. It's scares the shit out of them that they will no longer be able to control the narrative.
I hear Max Headroom is returning. If I were showrunner, Max would be Ultra MAGA. That would be both entertaining, and elitist wails of agony from the left.
"US—Elon Musk has launched a $66 billion bid to buy the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), saying the proposed deal is part of his plan to “restore credibility to the institution.”
There is no official word yet from the Clintons if they are willing to sell the FBI."
Whatever happened to this deal (quoted from the Genesius Times)?
Masnick's Impossibility Theorem: Content Moderation At Scale Is Impossible To Do Well
Mad.casual's Nomenklatura Theorem: plainly obvious and fundamental facts in the abstract uttered by proles will be ignored until the elites spin up their own named house of sand to 'explain' why they may've been right all along.
Define 'at scale'? Define 'do well'? Billions of websites do a perfectly fine job of moderating the content viewed by eyeballs at their own site. The impossibility has nothing to do with scale or moderation. Simultaneously owning and not owning someone else's speech is the plain impossibility, regardless of moderation or scale.
Next up: Cryptojurinalist John's Impossibility Theorem: Perfect transactional anonymity and fidelity is impossible to do at scale.
Given that Twitter is all up on muzzling conservatives but can't seem to recognize pedophiles, CP and actual terrorist organizing I'd be concerned of anything they consider done well. They are taking the position that user posts are their speech after all.
"at scale" is pretty obvious. Of those billions of websites only about 10 are as large or larger than Twitter (and tellingly they are all under the same scrutiny for not "doing well" with content moderation)
"At scale" means huge. As in yuuuge. Twitter is huge. Facebook is huge. Youtube is huge. But some website forum is not huge. Maybe big to you, but still not "at scale".
Moderation takes human eyeballs to moderate. No algorithm can do it. And when you have millions of posts every day, human eyeballs just can't scale to "at scale" sizes.
One potential solution is user moderation, but that can quickly turn into Facebook style bubbles or Reddit style downvote storms.
I think it's hilarious that both you and defaultdotxbe ignore the fact that it's not rational/possible at any non-zero scale to simultaneously own and not own anybody's speech and then pretend like 'at scale' is some sort of objective statement.
"It's plainly obvious that only Twitter can get a billion angels to dance at scale on the head of a pin! The number is yuuge, like Trumpian yuuge."
no, the solution is to simply not censor (moderate). allow users to mute or not see users they don't like. done.
no, the solution is to simply not censor (moderate).
Or moderate up front. Despite defaultdotxbe or Brandybuck’s retardation it’s not impossible, or even really difficult to do ‘at scale’. If you compare Twitter to *just* one static page the scales are completely different, but the effectively ongoing ‘Web 1.0’ in total is massive compared to *just* Twitter or *just Google*.
Their statements of ‘at scale’ are essentially a thought-terminating meme meant to obfuscate the statement “It’s difficult to consolidate power without looking like you’re consolidating power.” To wit, no shit, it’s tough to look like you’re not consolidating power when you are doing it at pretty much any scale you retards. The issue is easily resolved by either not consolidating power or being up front about who owns what property and powers and your arguments about scale are a retarded red herring.
I've often thought that a way forward on many of these social media issues would be to allow each user to select (or perhaps even create) his or her own algorithm for how their feed is created. These algorithms would be too complex for most users to develop themselves, but could be subscribed to from a various number of sources (not solely from the parent platform), and would include such things as mix of followed vs related news, amount of general news (or any other genre) content, topic areas, some sort of viewpoint preference, and the amount of advertising or sponsored content (perhaps a premium price for reduced ad or ad-free algorithms) with ads being selected for compatibility with the other selections of the algorithm.
In other words, all the stuff that's currently in the one-algorithm-fits-all could be shifted to individual users. I'd be able to subscribe to an echo chamber if I wanted one, or a well-rounded mix of news perspectives, a single-interest specialty, or just see posts from my friends. The algorithm developers become curators of a sort. Instead of one moderator, we have thousands of moderators, and you pick the one you're most simpatico with.
Algorithm developers could be rewarded in much the same way as content creators are rewarded -- not through advertising, but rather through individual subscribers paying a nominal amount to filter their feeds they way they want to see them. If I were a social media user, I would pay for that!
This fixes much of the engagement-driven nature of current social networking, where clicks-for-advertising drives all. It gets the platforms more or less off the hook for moderation. It shifts much more power to the users themselves (though for sure it allows poisonous echo chambers to develop, but at least they become opt-in rather than foisted upon all the way the current algorithms seem to work).
Not even wrong.
I don't think they'd fly let the algorithm be taken over, because algorithm manipulation is part of how they reward advertisers. But it's still a great idea.
Yeah, can't forget that you (or your attention) are the product being sold.
In the text messages between Dorsey and Musk, Dorsey specifically calls this out and says that the new Twitter must be free from ad-support. For exactly the reason you state.
But it’s still a great idea.
No it’s not. It’s reinventing the wheel to not solve the problem. It doesn’t get the platform producers off the hook, either Alex Jones would still be on their platform or he wouldn’t, and they were all, especially obvious wrt Google, originally one algorithm server among many.
This seems sensible from a user perspective. You could go further and allow advertisers to do the same so creators would what is driving their ad revenue instead of taking Twitter's word for it.
Meh. Why not allow each meta-life user to insert a USB cable directly into whatever brain section will give them the most satisfaction (pleasure, anger, hallucinations), plus a blue pill.
BTW, I just realized the ultimate meaning of blue vs. red.
To me - the Red Pill - means seeing the world as it is - warts and all. Truth first, second, and always.
The blue pill means to just keep lapping up the corporate media propaganda and go about your life - ignoring the fact that you are constantly being lied too. It's simpler and easier to follow the narrative and to join in the world with those blinders on, but at what cost? The very liberty and freedom we claim to represent as a country is literally at stake - and it's not from a few hundred rambunctious protestors on Jan 6th either.
The threat to this country is from the global elites who don't like what America stands for - or at least once stood for... I hope we can rescue it from the left-wing Marxists and their media propagandists who are the tools of the global elites!
"I’ve often thought that a way forward on many of these social media issues would be to allow each user to select (or perhaps even create) his or her own algorithm for how their feed is created."
This is actually discussed in the texts that were disclosed as a part of the lawsuit against Musk brought by twitter. He is specifically discussing with Dorsey (founder of Twitter) and others making the feed of tweets open, and letting people apply whatever filters they want in an open source client.
Imagine if the same thing could be done with a distributed search system- the Search Index is a massively distributed data asset, and people execute searches against it according to the algorithm that they choose.
While I think this is more libertarian, it will also lead to the further balkanization of our discourse as people increasingly only consume the content that meets their biases.
Nice! This gets around the need for a Google or a Bing to control search results for whoever leans on them the hardest.
I do wonder about balkanization. How much of what we see today is individual choice, and how much is the platforms sticking everyone in a box? Put another way, would most people choose options that deliver balkanization, or would it just be a minority? I hope it would be the latter, but fear it would be the former.
Imagine if the same thing could be done with a distributed search system- the Search Index is a massively distributed data asset, and people execute searches against it according to the algorithm that they choose.
So, do the users decide what goes into the index or does the platform? If it's the users, this is just yet another newsfeed aggregator. If it's the platform, well then it's still the platform.
The point of a "massively distributed index" is that there is no platform. It is like the Interplanetary File System (IPFS)- think of it as a specialized bit torrent that distributes the index across users, rather than a platform.
Today when you visit a website, your browser downloads the data in order to render it. Most modern browsers also follow the links on that page to "pre-fetch" web-pages. Indeed, you and your browser aren't terribly different than google's indexing bot- crawling from site to site, extracting data.
A massively distributed system would do the processing necessary to build the index as you used your browser. This would of course all be voluntary, but your computer would either store this small index and make it available (again like bit-torrent) and/or otherwise forward the data on to dedicated nodes (again voluntarily run by others) that provides the data.
This feature already exists, and I have used it successfully.
Step one; read the terms of service all the way through.
Step two; don't install the app.
Result, no bogus data from a bunch of self centered fascists.
Why would they do that?
How are they going to control what people think if they cannot control what they read?
My baseline assumption is that Twitter _as a company_ (or Facebook or whatever) doesn't actually care about what we think, they only care about money. So as long as we can keep the money more or less the same, they should be good.
(To the extent they (pretend to) care today, it's because they don't want to get criticism or blame on them. And certainly there are individuals at those companies who are trying to shape our thinking, using moderation as a tool. The proposal takes them out of the loop.)
My baseline assumption is that Twitter _as a company_ (or Facebook or whatever) doesn’t actually care about what we think
But they do. Almost all of Big Tech is run by explicitly ideological actors. Any reading of the released "cozy emails" between the Big Tech ceos and government officials will tell you that. Executives from Facebook telling representatives of the Obama campaign, "We're on your side" when they allowed them to do something they wouldn't let any other campaign tells you that.
What HAS happened is as they've moderated themselves into a corner (through a long litany of 'mistakes' that seem to only go in one direction) while still getting harangued by politicians who say they're not censoring enough, they want to hand over the censorship regime directly to the government. Zuckerberg has made this abundantly clear.
Yup. The baseline assumption is clearly false.
Well, you're ignoring the blatant cooperation between Twitter and government.
The simple way forward is for twitter and other social media companies to be pure raw common carriers, like phone companies and ISPs, with no direct public interface. They have standard access rates, just like phone companies and ISPs.
Separate companies provide the public interface. They use whatever algorithms they want, even none. There will be curators, dynamic searches, self-moderated groups. There might be one company providing all these options, or multiple companies, it doesn't matter.
The reason for no public access to the raw feed common carrier is monetization. Any feeder providing raw access pays the published rate for their common carrier access; they get their own revenue from subscription, ads, inheritance, donations, bribery, who knows, who cares. You have to separate the two to avoid the corruption temptation.
Paying a premium for algorithms with fewer ads was aimed at preserving, more or less, the existing monetization for the platform. Perhaps an additional metering-based premium (heavy users without ads pay more than light users without ads) would also be required. Dunno. Just pulling stuff out of my ass.
The simple way forward is for twitter and other social media companies to be pure raw common carriers, like phone companies and ISPs, with no direct public interface. They have standard access rates, just like phone companies and ISPs.
The simplest way forward is to repeal S230 and let the issues shake themselves out. If Alphabet/Google Fiber, Amazon/AWS, and Twitter/Starlink and their users want to declare common carrier status and collapse their social platforms (see AOL) or spin off their social platforms or some algorithmic permutation of the various options, it's up to them and their users and, in some cases, the courts.
Insisting Twitter become a common carrier adds an unnecessary layer of common carriers on top of already existing ISPs and leaves S230 in tact to be abused by anyone who wants to continue the "We own the protected speech that we don't own." idiocy.
LOL. I like it. But LOL.
Youtube will not even let me alphabetize my subscriptions.
Always keep in mind that "misinformation" is not necessarily untrue. It is information that runs counter to the political class' preferred narrative.
When you hear anyone use the term 'misinformation' unironically recognize it as an admission that they do not trust you to decide anything for yourself. The notion of leaving others to their own devices is not within them. In that sense they are the very essence of anti-libertarian.
Will he institute a red check mark for conservative posters?
Let’s see how important the site is when they switch to an ad free, pay to use model.
This might indeed pose a problem for the Triggly Puffs of the world, but corporate media and academics will just expense the subscription.
Yeah, but then the only people who would see their corporate account posts are other corporate accounts.
The primary economic value Twitter has is getting your message in front of the triglypuffs.
Against the tide of the culture war, Musk is nothing more than an antisocial, impulsive, immature, autistic, disaffected, dorky, wealthy, inconsequential, low-character piece of shit.
Musk has folded on Twitter -- if he can be believed this time -- because he recognized a Delaware judge would ensure that even a remarkably wealthy, stubborn asshole is governed by the rules established by his betters.
Musk and Peter Thiel together couldn't delay by a month the inevitable victories of reason, progress, science, modernity, inclusiveness, and education over conservatism (backwardness, superstition, bigotry, dogma, insularity, ignorance).
The American culture war isn't over but it has been settled. Clingers hardest hit.
That's no way to talk about an African American.
"The American culture war isn’t over but it has been settled. Clingers hardest hit."
Lol, seethe harder in upside down world, idiot. xD
Oh, btw, where's Jackie? 😀
Yes, where IS Jackie?
Musk is so awesome. All the worse people hate him so I know he's doing something right?
Haha. The rev is calling someone “inconsequential”.
Too funny.
Remember how the media agreed to stop quoting any claims by Republicans without the qualifier "without evidence"? (even when detailed evidence was cited)
Well, it is time to do the same thing with media claims about the need to suppress misinformation.
I suggest "which they use as a cover for Big Brother style censorship".
Or perhaps "in defense of their party sponsored propaganda machine".
If it gets done early enough, based on the people he's aligned with, yes, it could actually affect midterms.
More than the Herschel Walker debacle?
"Twitter is not a real place." - Dave Chappelle
Close. "The internet is not a real place." - Every geek since construction workers paved the first mile of the information superhighway.
Which is at least one part of the problem. They think that what matters on Twitter is somehow important to regular people, aka the people they allegedly represent. It isn't, which just makes those fuckwits even more out of touch with reality than they already are.
Well there's no way Musk could make Twitter worse than it is. When the hole you're in reaches all the way to bedrock, there's no where to go but up.
Plus all the pants shitting from the left will be worth it. Where's the popcorn?
When the hole you’re in reaches all the way to bedrock, there’s no where to go but up.
Bullshit. Ask any 6 yr. old. You just switch to creative mode and keep going.
"yes, it could actually affect midterms."
LOL you think? Love all the regime apologists hyperventilating because the Twitter trends could affect elections. ONLY when it's not fully controlled by stalinists though.
This whole thing is extremely telling. Journalism writ large seems to agree that they're influencing elections, and have a strong handle on that influence, and said influence will be lost if Musk takes over.
yep. the mask came off with the Musk Twiitter deal. From the beginnnig
>>Some reporters on this beat are becoming serially guilty of overstating the importance of Twitter to general life.
this place uses tweets as source material and polling, but now Elon’s buying it the importance is overstated?
What a moronic headline.
But as one who has never been on Twitter or Facebook, nor any other so-called social media, I too can assure everyone that the world will NOT end if Musk buys Twitter.
Good article, Robbie. Just one quibble:
“What happens on the blue bird site matters a great deal to Washington, D.C., policy makers and their media foes.”
The problem is the media are not the “foes” of the people currently making policy, they are their spokesmen.
he did not type that ... no wait I see it now ... lolz
Bingo
Elon should buy Reason (maybe for $1), fire all the staff, and turn it into a libertarian magazine.
A libertarian magazine that will have the balls to ask the touchy questions, such as: where is Jackie?
I think several members of the commentariat could write articles that are actually libertarian and even laden with facts. Just not the commie kids and leftist pedos.
If they shook hands today, it could take months for Musk to gain legal control and months after that for the moderation team to be sent to reeducation camps.
The fact that it is the leftist media types that are screaming Armageddon over this is telling don't cha think?
Tells me that it is long overdue.
Elon’s hair is as dumb as that teacher’s prosthetic tits.
What a sissy.
Insightful!
Naah: Assholish, as that commenter always is.
Stuff your head up your ass.
Still salty that you can't censor your enemies? You're pitiful.
Oh, my goodness the progtards are squealing louder than Ned Beatty getting railed by Bill Mckinney in "Deliverance". There can't be freedom of speech on the right that's an "Act of Violence" don't you know? Another movie reference, sorry, I just saw it recently on TCM.
iT's a PrIvAte CoMpanY, IF yOu DOn't lIKE iT BuILd Your OwN!
It'd be awesome if Musk bought Twitter and then just shut it down.
Operational pause to assess and plan for future changes.
"Elon Musk Buying Twitter Is Not the End of the World"
Hopefully, it's the end of the liberal stranglehold on free speech for the platform!