Selling Fentanyl Could Mean the Death Penalty Under New Rubio Bill
As per usual, politicians' response to negative effects of the drug war is…more drug war.

New legislation from Sen. Marco Rubio (R–Fla.) would make selling fentanyl used in a fatal overdose a federal crime punishable by the death penalty. Rubio's bill is backed by a dozen other Republican senators, including Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.), Tom Cotton (Ark.), Ted Cruz (Texas), Joni Ernst (Iowa), and Josh Hawley (Mo.).
The bill (S.4876) would define selling fentanyl that leads to a fatal overdose as a form of first-degree murder under federal law. A first-degree murder conviction means life in prison at minimum, and possibly the death penalty.
Rubio and co. want people to think we have a fentanyl problem because our laws aren't tough enough. But not only does selling fentanyl come with heavy penalties on its own, federal law already criminalizes the "distribution of fentanyl causing death" specifically, too.
Under current law, distributing fentanyl that causes death comes with a mandatory minimum sentence of 20 years in prison and a maximum sentence of life imprisonment (with no possibility of parole, since there is no parole in federal prison).
And yet plenty of people still sell fentanyl. It seems at some point, we have to admit that the threat of punishment—no matter how harsh—isn't going to stop people from selling drugs, nor get America out of the mess we've gotten into with opioids.
Alas, as per usual, politicians' response to the results of the drug war is…more drug war.
Rubio notes, correctly, that the synthetic opioid "fentanyl is killing Americans at a record high. This deadly drug is widespread throughout our country."
But he leaves out the fact that fentanyl took off after the government cracked down on prescription painkillers, making legal—and much less deadly—opioids harder to get. He also omits the fact that a lot of fentanyl deaths come from people not knowing the heroin or other drugs they're taking have been cut with fentanyl, or not knowing how to dose correctly with fentanyl versus heroin (the former can be much stronger). And the fact that part of the reason fentanyl is popular with drug dealers is because it's more potent, which means they can smuggle more in the same volume container as other substances.
("Alcohol prohibition shifted consumption from beer and wine toward distilled spirits. Drug prohibition gave us heroin instead of opium, fentanyl instead of heroin, and sometimes even-more-potent fentanyl analogs instead of fentanyl," as my colleague Jacob Sullum puts it.)
A lot of fentanyl problems could be mitigated by decriminalizing drugs, or at least pulling back on prohibitionist tactics. If more drug users were able to buy from known sources, test their drugs for fentanyl, use at safe-injection sites, or take other harm-reduction steps, we might not wind up with so many overdose deaths. If people in pain could turn to prescription pills, we might not wind up with so many heroin and fentanyl users in the first place.
Instead, Senate Republicans want to simply say an eye for an eye—or an eye for a plea deal, more likely.
The idea of executing drug dealers as first-degree murderers even when they had no intention of killing anyone is draconian, yes. (So, too, the idea of putting them in prison for life.) The punishment isn't proportionate to the crime, it sends a terrible message about criminal justice in America, and it's ridiculous waste of state resources. It also seems unlikely that a judge would actually sentence someone to death for selling fentanyl.
The real benefit, for prosecutors, will be in being able to hang this draconian possibility over someone's head in order to coerce them into taking a plea deal. It's much easier to get someone to plead guilty and accept a few decades in prison if the alternative is life in prison or state-ordered execution.
The losers in this scenario aren't just drug dealers but also drug users. Research suggests treating fatal overdoses as homicides makes people less likely to seek medical attention for those who overdose.
State laws treating drug sales that lead to fatal overdoses as murder have been on the books since the 1980s, but their use seems to have increased over the past decade, according to a report from the Drug Policy Alliance.
"Although legislators and prosecutors may portray such cases as a way to punish callous, death-dealing drug traffickers, the defendant is usually someone close to the decedent," notes Sullum. "The upshot is that a defendant's role in 'distributing' a drug may be limited to buying it for someone else, arranging a purchase, or sharing a stash. When money changes hands, the dealers are often selling just enough to finance their own habits."
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This is how Republicans think, there isn't any problem that can't be solved with more executions.
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People who manufacture, distribute and sell fentanyl products (ostensibly disguised as something else) are knowingly MURDERING tens of thousands of people who unknowingly ingest it.
Personally, I think they should just be forced to ingest the product. After all, what harm is it?
How many people 'unknowingly ingest' black market drugs? 'Taking foolish risks sometimes ending in SUICIDE' is a more accurate description.
Smart people don't take such risks, but foolhardy people don't deserve to essentially be forced to play Russian Roulette with their chosen intoxicants, anymore than boozehounds should have to worry whether their booze is tainted with methanol. The need for above-board legal markets (like how pharmacies used to work before the feds abandoned the Constitution) is apparent.
But hey, if dealers are going around randomly injecting unwilling people full of mystery drugs, then yeah, murder charges would be warranted!
Just put fentanyl in their cell, and let nature take its course.
Getting tough on abortion and drugs. Lil' Taco is getting his resume ready for a 2024 run for the GOP nomination.
Think you could be more racist there, Shrike? Seriously, "Lil' Taco"?
FOAD, kiddie diddler.
Is it really racist if he isn't even using the right epithets? I mean, we all agree racist is thrown around too much these days, and this is a clear case when you could just call him a dumb ass.
another hit piece on Marco Rubio!
translation: he is assured of reelection fo sho, fo sho.
Memo to Val Demings:
You ain't got a prayer, sweetheart. Try your race baiting elsewhere.
Florida Police Assoc send you their best!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2n4ouZzUzo
Florida law enforcement officials who support Sen. Marco Rubio take aim at his Democratic challenger, Rep. Val Demings, in the Republican incumbent’s latest campaign commercial.
The ad by Rubio and the National Senatorial Campaign Committee, which was shared first with Fox News on Friday, is the latest effort by the senator to question the former Orlando police chief’s support for police funding, with the issue of crime and law enforcement center stage in the high profile, high stakes, and expensive Florida Senate race.
The spot, which the Rubio campaign says is part of their current seven-figure ad buy, starts with a clip of Demings, from a June 2020 interview on the "Ellen Degeneres Show," saying that "America has failed."
Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivey then charges in the ad that "Congresswoman Demings, America hasn’t failed. You did."
Marion County Sheriff Billy Woods emphasizes that "America didn’t vote 100% with Nancy Pelosi. You did that."
Steve Zona, president of the Florida chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police, said that "America didn’t praise Defunding the Police. That was Val Demings," followed by Bradford County Sheriff Gordon Smith claiming that Demings sold "out to liberals, turning our back on law enforcement."
Marjorie Taylor Greene shares a video in which she appears to kick a (female) youth activist
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123430805/marjorie-taylor-greene-video-kicking-genz-activist
Hilarious.
"The video does not directly show physical contact between Pecora and Greene."
From the link you provided. Geez.
Could you please not rape me tonight?
More performative B/S
they'll need to replace all the weed convictions
Lil Marco, trying to act tough.
Ballistics can usually give you murder weapon; the chances of tracing the death to this or that pill is next to impossible. That's why there are few convictions that result in life sentences; so asking for the death penalty is grandstanding to the maximus omnibus. If you want to legalize injection sites, put them at e.g. Martha's Vineyard, South Hamptons, Palm Springs, mid town Manhattan next to Central Park, any neighborhood where a democratic member of Congress lives. Anyone injecting outside approved areas will be executed with three days of conviction.
"If you want to legalize injection sites, put them at e.g. Martha's Vineyard, South Hamptons, Palm Springs, mid town Manhattan next to Central Park, any neighborhood where a democratic member of Congress lives. "
The introduction of heroin and other drugs to black neighborhoods has long been seen as a way to keep marginalized populations compliant and marginalized as well as an excuse for sending huge numbers to prison.
I saw Fox News pushing the "Fentanyl is a weapon of Mass Destruction" narrative. Because when the only tool you have is a hammer...
Well, the tough on drugs tactic worked for Biden.
I prefer the high on drugs tactic though.
Don't forget, this is the same government who is prosecuting physicians who prescribe certain legal pharmaceuticals to their patients, if the government deems they have prescribed a bit too much.
So yeah, Marco Rubio literally wants to execute doctors for prescribing medications.
"Safe injection sites"
You just spent an entire article, rightly, lambasting strict enforcement of drug use as a big cause for the black market and your solution is to subsidize drug use? Taxpayer funded heroin use to reduce heroin use?
"Taxpayer funded heroin use to reduce heroin use?"
It makes some sense, especially if the goal is to minimize the negative aspects of heroin addiction. Users of black market heroin often turn to dealing among their acquaintances to support their own habit, thereby spreading usage pyramid-wise. Easier access to unadulterated heroin should eliminate some of the problems.
Even libertarians might consider it a breach of contract to buy some heroin from someone only to find out it's instant death a bit too late.
What is the suggestion to handle this in a libertarian way, considering the seller probably killed a few dozen people that didn't know what they were buying?
Legalization and deregulation. Add more competition to the market. If you breach a contract by mixing something the buyer wants with something that kills the buyer, you still face criminal consequences. But also, word quickly gets out because it's mutual transactions and there are receipts. "My dad bought heroine from Jerry and DIED from it," quickly leads people to stop buying their heroine from Jerry.
When it's all hidden in a black market and nothing is tracked, nobody can be sued because it's all illegal and underground, it provides a layer of cover. And people who purchase have to assume extra risks because they're already violating the law.
I meant more along the lines of how should the person be punished for killing a few dozen people with mislabeled products. Would the death penalty be justified, or would a small fine suffice?
Most self-styled libertarians talk a good game about legalization and deregulation, but then get a bit fuzzy on enforcement and punishment.
"If you breach a contract by mixing something the buyer wants with something that kills the buyer, you still face criminal consequences."
Long term use of adulterated heroin can damage your liver and kill you. But it's the adulterants rather than the heroin that does the damage. I don't see how deregulating a market without regulations is going to be of any use.
"Even libertarians might consider it a breach of contract to buy some heroin from someone only to find out it's instant death a bit too late."
Heroin users get accustomed to buying and using low quality, impure heroin. Death from overdose comes to those who suddenly buy and use much higher quality heroin but dose themselves according to their normal practice. If anyone is in breach of contract, it's the dealers who've been selling the low quality product.
You have to wonder what the chicoms would do if the US was allowing chemical plants to produce and ship chemicals to drug cartels in SE Asia to produce a drug, including putting this drug into counterfeit pharmaceuticals they then smuggle across the border into China resulting in a million or more deaths a year from overdoses. You think they would just make a few speeches about getting tough on crime?
Ever heard of history? See Opium Wars. See FDR's fortune.
So when does Rubio intend to arrest and execute the Sackler family.
Or does he intend to spare them the death penalty because they are billionares?
I wonder why they are not suggesting the same penalty for meth.
Fentanyl is sold at most pharmacies in the US. People OD on Rx drugs, all the time. Even if the prescribing physician or pharmacist have no ill intent (or any real say at all in a drug's end use) will they also face federal charges?
Several years back, my sister died from an Oxycontin OD. All perfectly legal! No one was held accountable...save for my sister, of course. I hate it, but ultimately, the responsibility for the OD is on the person who willingly ingests the drugs. Ingesting black market substances comes with great risk. Then again, prescription pills do, too.
Now that the DEA and other government entities are persecuting pharmacists and doctors, they are terrified to prescribe opioids for pain relief even in cases where they are well-justified. Legitimate patients suffer needlessly, but at least 'limited government Constitutionalist' authoritarian statists like Rubio can sleep a little better knowing that now not just one, but TWO or more people will die from many ODs! If that ain't victory, what is?
https://twitter.com/TheInfiniteDude/status/1571055136981778433
Death penalty for dealers and transporters of Fentanyl is a start
Drone the Fentanyl making cartels, in Mexico
We should put a bounty on the folks sending the Fentanyl components from China.
Legalize weed and magic mushrooms
I think we listen to the same guy.
300 people a day die from fentanyl.
Drone the cartels. Execute sellers. Publicly.
If we photographed altogether the 300 Americans killed by fentanyl today, this is what we would see.
https://twitter.com/TheInfiniteDude/status/1571207943340851202
There are so many things on the street that can kill
The deadly thing in question today is called fentanyl.
Death penalties for anyone who sells it, or tries
Unless of course you just want PEOPLE TO DIE
https://youtu.be/eXWhbUUE4ko
@ScottPresler - Sep 15
I’ve been tracking fentanyl poisoning for the last 2 weeks.
Based on NIH data, 154 Americans die from fentanyl daily.
That’s the equivalent of 38 mass shootings.
In the last 14 days, 2,156 Americans died from fentanyl poisoning.
That’s the equivalent of 539 mass shootings.
Teen girl dies of Fentanyl over dose at Hollywood High.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/teen-girl-dies-of-fentanyl-overdose-at-hollywood-high/
How many more men, women and young adults have to die before someone gets serious enough to really do something?
I mean close the border, hard and secure. Patrol the southern border with helicopter gunships and special forces. Declare war on the cartels and halt all products from China.
legalizing drug use is NOT WORKING! It is only making the situation worse. Don't believe me just try and stroll along the sidewalks in Frisco, Philly, L.A., Portland and Seattle. See how that works for ya.
Anyone caught selling Fentanyl should get life at the very least.
Over 110,000 Americans died from drug overdose last year, mainly from Fentanyl. George Floyd would still be alive and so would thousands of Americans.
Close the border, start wiping out the cartel camps.
I was shocked to hear Trump call for the death penalty for illegal drug dealers two weeks ago. Seems like its the latest GOP talking point to bring back and escalate the failed War on Drugs they colluded with Joe Biden to enact and impose the past 30 years.
The only reason drug cartels have been unlawfully transporting and selling fentanyl (and meth, marijuana and other illegal drugs) in the US is because US drug prohibition laws (aka War on Drugs) have created and made the cartels very wealthy and powerful (because demand for their drugs continues to increase in the US).
Regardless, legalizing the illegal weed is long overdue, as weed is far less harmful alternative for opioid and alcohol addicts.
I agree with legalizing weed. So do many Republicans.
Drone the terrorist cartels.