There Are No Good Options in Liz Cheney's Primary
The contest for Wyoming's House seat poses no obvious upsides for libertarians.

As primary election season begins to wrap up, only Alaska and Wyoming hold elections today. Alaskans, in the first test of their new open primary system, will decide whether to renominate Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski as well as whether to choose former Gov. Sarah Palin to be the next representative for the state's only seat in the House of Representatives.
Wyoming also has only a single House seat, but it looms much larger on the national stage. Rep. Liz Cheney, daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney and a Republican stalwart since she was first elected in 2016, faces near-certain defeat in her party's primary against Harriet Hageman, an attorney and former supporter of Cheney. The contest is likely to cause mixed feelings among libertarians.
The reason for her ouster is no secret: Cheney publicly broke with former President Donald Trump, repudiating his shambolic attempts to subvert the results of the 2020 election with conspiracy theories. After the January 6 Capitol riot, Cheney was one of 10 Republicans to vote for Trump's impeachment, pinning the responsibility for the violence directly on him.
A few months later, Cheney was removed from her position as chair of the House Republican Conference, despite a considerably more conservative voting record than her replacement, Rep. Elise Stefanik (R–N.Y.). And that summer, Cheney was nominated to be vice chair of the House's January 6 Committee, one of only two Republicans on the entire panel.
Despite Cheney's longtime support for Trump—she even received an email from Kimberly Guilfoyle, Trump's top 2020 fundraiser, praising her "tremendous support of President Trump, and your leadership and respect among your GOP colleagues"—her public criticism of the former president and support for the January 6 Committee sealed her fate with the GOP. In a recent University of Wyoming poll, primary voters preferred Hageman to Cheney by a two-to-one margin, 57–28. Hageman claims that the 2020 election was "a travesty" and "rigged to make sure that President Trump could not get reelected."
Hageman is troubling, but Cheney is also far from an ideal candidate. In fact, she has become somewhat of an unlikely Democratic hero—Wyoming's Democratic Party is even recommending its members switch parties and vote for Cheney in the primary. Ironically, this positioning tends to either absolve, or simply ignore, her record on nearly every other issue.
Mother Jones labeled Cheney a "hero of 2021" for her Trump criticism. But the article also details a 2010 "McCarthyite witch hunt" in which Cheney ran ads criticizing several Obama administration attorneys who had previously represented terror detainees in court. For representing clients in accordance with the Sixth Amendment, Cheney termed the officials the "al Qaeda Seven."
In 2014, Cheney and her father co-wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed in which they castigated then-President Barack Obama: "America remains at war, and withdrawing troops from the field of battle while our enemies stay in the fight does not 'end' wars. Weakness and retreat are provocative. U.S. withdrawal from the world is disastrous and puts our own security at risk." The two defended the merits of the Iraq War on a TV appearance with Megyn Kelly. And in a 60 Minutes interview last year, nominally intended to focus on her criticism of Trump, Cheney averred that waterboarding is "not torture" and that she "absolutely" supports it—a position she shares with Trump.
Wyoming is not only more Republican than any other state, but it also eclipses its closest competitor (North Dakota) by nearly a dozen points. The candidate that wins the Republican primary is almost certainly going to win the House seat. Democratic primary voters have not been polled, and the state Libertarian Party is running no candidates.
Other than her views on Trump, there's little indication of where Hageman actually differs from Cheney on the issues. (When asked, Hageman simply replied, "I'm not a globalist.") Cheney deserves tremendous credit for the integrity to choose her principles at the expense of her standing within her party. But otherwise, the contest for Wyoming's House seat poses no obvious upsides for libertarians.
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Couldn't be more correct. "Reason" shouldn't be "Spiteful".
Cheney deserves tremendous credit for the integrity to choose her principles at the expense of her standing within her party.
Cheney and integrity: an oxymoron.
Yes, the principle of ruling by executive order while claiming to be defending democracy.
Disagree!
Here principles in this case is being a deep-state, warmongering neo-con.
Gotdam,
Oops.
Gotdam, Reason. Probably time to pull the plug and just end the whole thing, whatever it was you saw yourselves doing.
I can't imagine being servile and pathetic enough to write an article lamenting Dick Cheney's daughter's loss in a Wyoming primary for a house seat.
How progressive.
No shit.
Toss the bitch and celebrate.
The proper response.
Living in Wyoming - Evanston - you actually get to meet and talk to elected officials - the population is very small. Liz Cheney may have scruples and principles, but mostly she felt she was owed her seat in congress by right of inheritance. She was in with the Beltway crowd, as was her father, and despised Trump as an outsider from the beginning. "Not the right sort."
Or as the preppies used to say, NOKD [not our kind, dear].
Trump may have gotten elected in 2016 as an "outsider," but his 2-month Big Lie campaign and January 6 putsch to overthrow a Constitutional election marked him out as a fascist. Cheney's conservative Republicanism may be distasteful, but even so, the choice between Cheney and fascism should be easy.
"The lesser of two evils".
Yeah, that about sums it up.
"Fascist"="anything that resists the left"
In an electoral democracy such as the USA has been for some 200 years, there are methods (voting, publishing newspapers, etc) to resist the Left that do not involve dascism.
Fuck off you marxist scum. The left changed the rules for the election unconstitutionally and you're fine with their lying and cheating.
Yeah, but you don't even know what fascism is without looking up the definition on Wikipedia, which is heavily influenced itself by decades of post-war agitprop that declared fascism to be "right-wing" only because it didn't fall in line with Soviet marxism.
"Fascism" has specialized meaning in Europe, but in America it has been used as shorthand for the antidemocratic Right, just as "communist" is shorthand for the antidemocratic Left.
You’re not good at this. Piss off.
Hoping this is sarc. Stupid this bad is probably really painful.
Leftists are literally, not figuratively, cancer
Cancer is a nasty disease, but I wouldn't call it evil.
Cheney's conservative Republicanism may be distasteful, but even so, the choice between Cheney and fascism should be easy.
Cheney is a fascist.
In the dark, all cats are black.
Beginning to think STUPID.
"...despised Trump as an outsider from the beginning. "Not the right sort."..."
And needs to be tossed on her ass as a result.
All patriotic Americans have an obligation to support Liz Cheney. And if she loses this battle, our next step is to help her defeat Ron DeSantis for the 2024 GOP nomination. (#TrumpDocuments guarantees Drumpf can't run again since he'll be in prison.)
#LibertariansForABetterGOP
#PutTheNeoconsBackInCharge
Are you trolling? She wont even come cloe to beating either Trump or DeSantix, which is a good thing.
OBL is, far and away, the most principled, courageous, and honest poster on this forum.
Xe is a treasure.
Mother Jones labeled Cheney a "hero of 2021" for her Trump criticism
Which is all need be said about Liz Cheney, and speaks volumes about Reason Magazine as well.
Motherfuckingjones
Whenever I see 'her' referred to as a Republican, I wonder why it is a political party cannot expel, or deny membership to, anyone.
She is no more a Republican than Nancy Pelosi.
Could Trump run as a Democrat?
(and wouldn't that make heads explode?)
Well according to ye old libertarian principle of free association, they should. Of course if you take that result to it's natural conclusion, there are no more open primaries.
Trump is a late comer to the Republican party and has given money to candidates of both parties.
This!
Trump is NOT a republican, he is a populist whose primary focus is himself, not the Republic.
Poor little, corrupt soy
And?
Of course he did. He was a real estate developer on NYC. He himself said big projects don’t get approved if you’re not making donations to ‘the right people’. Which in NYC is democrats.
So what?
"Whenever I see 'her' referred to as a Republican, I wonder why it is a political party cannot expel, or deny membership to, anyone."
i see you don't understand how democracy works.... she pissed off a majority of the party in her state, and that is why she won't win the primary. you don't expel people, you just don't vote for them.
i see you don't understand how democracy works.
In Republic like ours each state has two Senators. The Senators are elected to advocate for the wishes of the people of the state they represent. When the Senator chooses to go against the will of the people she represents she is not likely to get re-elected. It has nothing to do with who she pissed off in the party and everything to do with how she chose to do her job.
The party is right to be not want her as a Republican. She didn't represent her constituents or the party.
"i see you don't understand how democracy works..."
From a TDS-addled shit pile with a 65IQ.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
“Shambolic”. Describes the editorializing here exactly
"I'm not a globalist." That's a pretty big difference, as the Cheneys are globalists to the hilt.
Yeah, but Reason is staffed by globalists, that’s why they love Cheney and hate Hageman.
"The contest for Wyoming's House seat poses no obvious upsides for libertarians."
Joe Lancaster is dead wrong.
Real libertarians and freedom loving Republicans in Wyoming will overwhelmingly vote the lying war mongering Trump impeaching Cheney out of office.
Not being a globalist isn't sufficient distinction to favor a US senate candidate against a notorious globalist? She knows it is.
Liz: even more despicable than her father.
Anybody is a better choice than Liz Cheney. I’d vote for a Democrat sight unseen over Liz.
Liz Warren?????
Yes, even Warren: unlike Cheney, Warren makes no secret of the fact that she is a leftist and a globalist.
It is nice when they do that. Makes it easier to round them up down the line when we kick them out of the country.
No more Marxists!
Yes, but is Warren really the right candidate to end all this tribalism?
The reason for her ouster is no secret: Cheney publicly broke with former President Donald Trump, repudiating his shambolic attempts to subvert the results of the 2020 election with conspiracy theories."
Remember that the woman Joe Lancaster is not-so-subtly shilling for is a notorious neocon who blocked troop withdrawal from Germany, and helped contribute to the Afghanistan debacle by blocking the original plans for withdrawal.
House Democrats, Working With Liz Cheney, Restrict Trump’s Planned Withdrawal of Troops From Afghanistan and Germany
I noticed no real criticism of Cheny's oppenent othet than she is backed by Trump. Joe couldn't be bother to even look at her campaign website. The article is just 'Cheny is our hero for standing against Trump'.
+1
That and the now customary rigged election conspiracy theory. In a sane world, that alone would disqualify her from consultation for elected office.
Consideration.
It was obviously rigged. But democrats hate being called out on their fraud and theft.
"Cheney deserves tremendous credit for the integrity to choose her principles"
Perpetuating lies about January 6 because of a personal vendetta isn't ever going to be principled, Joe.
+1
"And that summer, Cheney was nominated to be vice chair of the House's January 6 Committee, one of only two Republicans on the entire panel."
She willingly participated in a Soviet-style show trial. She deserves to lose.
They didn't even think it worth mentioning that she was nominated by Pelosi, not the Republicans.
Unimportant detail!
Elections are not about good and bed, they are about better or worse.
Or more generally, about bad and worse.
Publicly calling out Trump for his behavior following the election was warranted.
Voting for a lame duck president's impeachment over the riot at the Capital was democrat theater and Cheney should have been smart enough to see that.
Joining the Jan 6 committee as part of a biased smear to boost democratic chances in Nov. is unforgiveable if you're GOP.
Joe Lancaster downplays this outright snub by Cheney of the GOP and praises her for her principles...This isn't an example of principles, this is Cheney being vindictive.
It speaks as much to Cheney's sense of entitlement as it does her principles that she's made the choices she has. In no universe was doing something that aided Democrats going to be seen in a good light by the GOP or their base, but Liz clearly felt she could do what she wanted and her position and pedigree would cover for that.
At this point, it's less about holding Trump accountable than it is proving that she's "right" and everyone else in the party needs to fall in line to "save itself" or something. Framing this slapfight as a "choice between Trump and the Constitution" was one of the politically dumbest moves she ever made, one guaranteed to make the base write her and her family off forever, and now she's having to resort to begging Democrats to temporarily switch party affiliation to try and stay in office.
Contrast Cheney's actions with that of Brian Kemp, who's about to sail to re-election despite Trump putting a target on his back, simply by saying "I know Trump's mad at me, but I'm not mad at him."
"Other than her views on Trump, there's little indication of where Hageman actually differs from Cheney on the issues. (When asked, Hageman simply replied, "I'm not a globalist.")"
Um no. She's said a little bit more than that: "“I’m an America First candidate,” Hageman told me in a June interview, explaining why she would have voted against the $40 billion aid package to Ukraine that Cheney supported. Wyomingites, she says, care about border security, inflation, and protecting energy jobs. “I think about what Americans need. Liz Cheney thinks, What does Lockheed Martin need?”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/running-to-unchain-wyoming/
It amazes me that a so-called "libertarian" magazine could ever bring itself to praise Liz Cheney. I'm not a fan of Trump either, but I thought we were all at least on board with the fact that the Neoconservatives were worse. Cheney actively fought against withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan, still supports water-boarding as a tool for interrogation, and defends our massive surveillance state. You should be cheering Cheney's defeat.
Reason isn’t libertarian.
Reason is supportive of globalist, authoritarian war mongers like Liz Cheney.
"The behavior of any bureaucratic organization can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies."
- one of Robert Conquests' Three Laws of Politics
It’s REATDSON.
Reason Editors are NOT libertarians. They are far left progressives that may own a few pet libertarians principles. But they're full of raging TDS; as this article highlights.
Reason is Libertarian Plus!
Either the author did very little actual research or he is not much of a libertarian.
From Harriet Hageman's website:
Our government must be transparent and accountable and so we must rein in the surveillance state in America. The FBI and NSA have been pursuing surveillance operations outside of the public eye and in violation of the Constitution.
Current FISA law inhibits Congress’ ability to exercise proper oversight of FISA activities and investigations. FISA laws must be reformed to restrict the government from circumventing the Fourth Amendment, from snooping through our private records and communications, from pursuing political witch hunts, and from abusing its power.
Every decision that Congress makes should be focused on what is best for American families and businesses, not on what helps the globalists or the military industrial complex.
The federal government has grown so massively in excess of anything our Founders could have ever envisioned that they would hardly recognize this country today. For years, Congress has been delegating its authority to ever-expanding agencies, thereby empowering unelected government bureaucrats to write and enforce regulations that affect the lives and livelihoods of every person in Wyoming.
It is vital that we rein in spending. High inflation is a hidden tax on Americans at the grocery store, at the gas pump, and in every aspect of our lives.
Their agenda is Critical Race Theory, imposing bone-crushing taxes on American families, taking our guns, silencing free speech, weaponizing government agencies against us, and destroying the American dream.
And quite a bit more. I don't agree with some of it, but it is far better than most major party candidates I have seen.
https://www.hagemanforwyoming.com/issues
She's 10 times better than liz fucking cheney by ANY libertarian measure.
Does liz fucking cheney have a whole section on her campaign site devoted to "Deregulating the Administrative State"?
Does liz fucking cheney have a whole section devoted to "Demanding Transparency in Government and Reining in the Surveillance State"?
"Stopping the Radical Biden Agenda"
"Fighting for Federal Land Management Reform"
All of these are more libertarian than liz fucking cheney.
At least liz fucking cheney voted no on the assualt weapons ban and no on the Inflation Creation Act. I'll give her that much.
Like any vulnerable Democrat, that vote may just have been for show; she knew it wouldn't make any difference.
Reason misses the intersectional analysis of the race:
A self-identified cisgender woman replaces a self-identified cisgender woman.
It's a wash.
Liz Cheney is gay, isn't she?
Or does that not count anymore?
One very good result would be having that warm-mongering gasbag tossed out on her ass.
"Either the author did very little actual research or he is not much of a libertarian."
Yes.
Wisconsin's supreme court recently ruled that yes, the state had violated it's own election law.
Anyone who even SUSPECTS that the federal election of 2020 wasn't all on the up and up is now 'troubling' and considered to be without 'integrity'
what a joke
Michigan changes were also ruled illegal.
Cheney was one of 10 Republicans to vote for Trump's impeachment, pinning the responsibility for the violence directly on him.
Which runs counter to all reality and no sane person could make such a claim. The people who are "directly" responsible for the violence are the ones who acted violently. This is the equivalent of 'society made him murder that shopkeeper for twenty bucks and it's not his fault'.
It would also be analogous to blaming Patrice Cullors, Nikole Hannah-Jones, and Charles M. Blow for violence in Minneapolis, Portland, and Kenosha.
Cheney deserves tremendous credit for the integrity to choose her principles at the expense of her standing within her party.
Now do all the other congressmembers who have stood up for various principles they have and got vilified for it. Do Marjorie Taylor Green or Rand Paul next, I dare you.
I haven't seen one Reason article praising ANY non-left member of congress for their principles in ages.
Reason Editors - principles only count when they align with our far left progressive ideals.
(When asked, Hageman simply replied, "I'm not a globalist.")
So the only difference between Cheney and Hageman you can find is one that matters (Hageman is not a globalist) and one that does't (believes 2020 elections were rock-solid/believes 2020 election were full of shenanigans).
Amazing article.
Reason, as an ostensibly libertarian publication, should have used the time and space investigating why the Wyoming LP didn't bother to run a candidate in such a high profile race.
Good question as there was obviously an opportunity here for Libertarians to make gains.
Aug.17, 2022 Hageman declared primary winner.
Aug.18, 2022, Hageman dies in mysterious airplane crash.
Aug.19, 2022, Liz Chaney takes Hageman's place.
.... or hunting accident.
liz fucking cheney is a neo-con who voted to send 100Billion of our money to Ukraine.
There is a clear-cut choice in that race of which one is more libertarian and it aint liz fucking cheney.
Reason has become a joke.
Well, the cunt lost by 37 points, so there’s that.
Hageman claims that the 2020 election was "a travesty" and "rigged to make sure that President Trump could not get reelected."
All four of the major swing states that went for Biden after first looking like they went for Trump were states where they had emergency provisions in place for lax mail in voting to occur, sometimes in violation of their own constitutions. That is a fact. It's not disputed. And someone who looks at that might reasonably consider this to be an act of 'rigging' or at the very least, clearly opening the possibility for shenanigans and rigging.
How is this a "troubling" thing to note?
Mean Tweets. No price is TOO high to get rid of literally Hitler.
Again, Reason Editors are far left progressives. Which means, the means justify the ends. This is a staple of far left progressives. Millions of dead citizens across the planet are clear proof.
"The integrity of her principles "
LOL
Let me tell you about this bridge I have to sell.... there are other buyers making offers, so you will want to get your bid in quick....
Virginia Is For Lovers Of Liz Cheney.
>>Cheney deserves tremendous credit for the integrity to choose her principles at the expense of her standing within her party.
I can't even. a Cheney and integrity. maybe stop writing for money.
"The contest for Wyoming's House seat poses no obvious upsides for libertarians."
Joe, you got completely owned in the comments for this trash article. Please seek help for your terminal case of TDS. Maybe there is still hope. And please stop pretending to be a libertarian. Just admit you're a far left progressive. Come out of the closet Joe. You'll feel better.
No matter how much Reason insists that murdering the unborn is a vastly greater libertarian priority than any other policy, it remains true that Republicans are far preferable to Democrats from a libertarian standpoint. This article is absurd to pretend otherwise.
Mr. Lancaster makes it clear that he has no respect for former president Trump. He consistently implies that Trump is more corrupt than any other politician and any federal agent/agency. Anyone who concurs is thus OK and touted as being principled. Just check how many of his articles are about Trump and how many are about Benghazi, the Steele dossier, Bruce Ohr's testimony to Congress, or any other refutations of the 'orange man bad', all democrats good. Most Libertarians recognize his bias and do not count on him to write about the dangerous double standard that has become ubiquitous in our government and 'journalism.'
Totally agree. You don't have to like Trump to realize how authoritarian our governance is becoming.
Anyone other than Cheney is a good option in that primary.
Buh bye.
Cheney deserves tremendous credit for the integrity to choose her principles at the expense of her standing within her party.
What a load of crap from Reason. Cheney is anti-Trump because he insulted her daddy, a war criminal, globalist and neo-con.
Is there any hope of Reason regaining some credibility and non-partisanship? I doubt it. I believe Reason is not only irredeemable, but further radical leftist then the HuffPo and the Daily Beast.
What a mess! Her principles are that war and torture are fine and that it's ok to stomp all over due process and minority rights in the pursuit of destroying your enemies. So what if she chose her principles if her principles are crap?
I would say Reason can be redeemed but they need to stop attacking Trump reflexively. If they want to beat up on Trump for renewing the Patriot Act or not getting rid of more career unelected bureaucrats like he insinuated he would, that's fair game. If they want to go after him for the bump stock ban, go for it. His personnel picks like Bolton, have at it. Continuing direct U.S. wars and support for the war in Yemen, absolutely!
But not all criticisms of Trump are equal and too often Reason goes after Trump whenever the subject of the article has even the loosest tangential connection to him. Dishonest warmongers like Liz Cheney don't earn any added thumbs up just because they dislike Trump.
Her opposition to Trump has nothing to do with any libertarian issue. Biden's inflation reduction act doesn't become a better policy just because he also dislikes Trump.
And with the caveat that Reason should hit Trump for actual libertarian issues, they should also give him credit on libertarian issues where it's deserved (i.e. tax cuts, deregulations, putting us on track to finally leave Afghanistan, leaving Somalia, First Step Act, etc.)
"Cheney deserves tremendous credit for the integrity to choose her principles"
Liz Cheney was hugging the witnesses, and in particular, the most debunked witness. This was not in any way an impartial proceeding. It was a show trial with Cheney cultivating personal relationships with the opposition.
Before looking at the article or the comments, let me venture a guess that there's a fairly good candidate (by duopoly standards, that is) running against Cheney.
It's like I'm psychic.
If the LP wanted an upside....by definition the LP would have had to run a candidate...right? Not sure the purpose of this article.
Orangemanbad.
Hageman supported the sale of large swaths of gov property.....LP's are on board to that right?
Sometimes I still occasionally stop by Reason and check it out. Then I read complete bullshit like this and remember why I quit a while ago. At least the folks in the comments were worth reading.
Missed this article this am.
God damn, Reason is really going all in for Dems before these midterms.
I predict Liz Cheney will become a democrat once that party realizes that waterboarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques can be useful for them to use against anyone who doesn’t agree with them on…well anything
Reason's entire case against Hageman is she doesn't believe in the 2020 election results. Is believing the results of an election without question a requisite libertarian position? When else has trust in government bureaucrats been such a high virtue of libertarianism?
The only other thing Reason notes is Hageman says she's not a globalist. Again, not sure libertarians need to follow to oppose Hageman here.
"Other than her views on Trump, there's little indication of where Hageman actually differs from Cheney on the issues."
You geniuses know she has a campaign website right? (https://www.hagemanforwyoming.com/issues). On Policy she wants to reign in the surveillance state, regulation and taxation. Those sound like somewhat libertarian ideas to me.
There's also the added benefit that Hageman isn't the daughter/cheerleader of Dick Cheney's Iraq War or the CIA's torture programs.
Reason doesn't have to like or even vote for Hageman, but pretending like it's an exceptionally hard choice for libertarians here is goofy.
The question remains in my mind. Is Reason truly a libertarian site, or a liberal/Democrat site attired in libertarian camouflage?