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Meta Can't Buy V.R. Fitness Company, Must Make Its Own Competing App, Says FTC

Plus: A rebranded "Build Back Better," the two-party system creates "a disconnect between elites and non-elites," and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 7.28.2022 9:54 AM

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Another antitrust lawsuit for Zuckerberg. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is suing to stop Facebook parent-company Meta from acquiring the virtual reality company Within Unlimited.

Meta has been betting big that virtual reality (V.R.) and augmented reality (A.R.) will finally have their day, pouring billions of dollars into the "metaverse." Within makes a popular V.R. fitness app called Supernatural.

The FTC says that Meta acquiring Within amounts to a violation of U.S. antitrust law.

"Meta is a potential entrant in the virtual reality dedicated fitness app market with the required resources and a reasonable probability of building its own virtual reality app to compete in the space," says the FTC in a statement. "But instead of entering, it chose to try buying Supernatural. Meta's independent entry would increase consumer choice, increase innovation, spur additional competition to attract the best employees, and yield other competitive benefits. Meta's acquisition of Within, on the other hand, would eliminate the prospect of such entry, dampening future innovation and competitive rivalry."

"Meta chose to buy market position instead of earning it on the merits. This is an illegal acquisition, and we will pursue all appropriate relief," said FTC Bureau of Competition Deputy Director John Newman.

The FTC's suit is silly for a number of reasons, starting with its very premise.

Meta is set on making its metaverse happen, and presumably it wants the best technology and programs in that world. The creators of Supernatural have been spending a lot of time on developing this program, and presumably they want it to get to a lot of people. Meta acquiring Within allows Meta to bring some of the best virtual reality fitness programs to the metaverse without duplicating Within developers' efforts, while also allowing the creators of Supernatural to share their expertise and vision with many more people than they would otherwise. Meanwhile, more consumers have easy access to a highly-acclaimed V.R. fitness program. Sometimes, bigger companies buying smaller ones is a win-win-win.

The idea that Meta should have to develop and promote its own virtual reality fitness app (instead of relying on existing technology) and that this would somehow be good for consumers is such a weird, convoluted scheme. With Meta's mighty marketing power and reach, it may be able to crush Supernatural—but who would that benefit? Or it may make an inferior product, meaning anyone who wants a top-of-the-line V.R. fitness experience integrated into the metaverse is out of luck. Either way, it doesn't seem like consumers really win here.

Besides, there are a lot of companies—including behemoths like Microsoft and the video game company Epic—working on virtual and augmented reality applications. And there are also all sorts of programs specifically dedicated to V.R. and A.R. fitness. Meta buying Within hardly dries up all competition within this space.

And since the Oculus Quest Store operates like Google Play or the Apple App Store, many competing fitness apps could still run through Oculus Quest headsets, even if Meta's deal with Within lets it have a preinstalled fitness app in the metaverse.

There are also a lot of more technical issues with the FTC's lawsuit, which Adam Kovacevich—a self-described "pro-tech Democrat" and the founder and CEO of the tech industry coalition Chamber of Progress—lays out in this Twitter thread. Among other issues, Kovacevich takes issue with the FTC's market definition.

FTC's initial stab against Facebook got rejected because of this failure to establish a proper market, and I think this case will fall into the same trap.https://t.co/sQTIjWnbNG 15/

— Adam Kovacevich (@adamkovac) July 27, 2022

In order to prove any antitrust violation, authorities must start by defining the market that is supposedly being monopolized or undermined. The FTC has a history of shadiness in this realm, defining markets in a way that helps their case but defies reality. For instance, in another lawsuit against Meta (this one concerned with personal social networking services), the FTC defined social network to exclude Twitter, Reddit, TikTok, and Pinterest.

In this case, the FTC defines the market to exclude popular fitness programs run though Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation (as well as other tech-enabled home fitness program options).

And these companies have been busy snapping up gaming studios—"Nintendo has acquired 4 gaming studios in the last year and a half - Xbox has acquired 15 gaming studios over its history - PlayStation acquired 5 gaming studios in just the last year," noted Kovacevich.

He suggests the lawsuit has more to do with politics and "Facebook derangement syndrome" than Meta's deal to buy Within actually being a threat to competition. "It will be long on headlines, but short on results."

Great thread. Of course, we've been warning against the FTC and DOJ's attempt to use antitrust law – and especially merger enforcement – as a political tool for a while now. See e.g. here: https://t.co/jJjE5VhI8q https://t.co/jstz4Ffr0x

— Lazar Radic (@laz_radic) July 28, 2022

(For background on the politics of anti-tech antitrust action, check out my Reason feature from last summer.)

Lawyer Neil Chilson, former chief technologist at the FTC, also suggests there are "major legal problems" with the FTC's latest Meta suit, "the biggest being the gerrymandered market definition."

You can read the FTC's full complaint here.


FREE MINDS

Another reason to end the two-party system. "In America, you still see a lot of high-income voters in the Republican Party, and you still see a lot of high-income politicians and other elites who are more concerned with economic than cultural issues. But there's also a disconnect between elites and non-elites—within both parties: Republican donors are way to the right of their party's voter base on the issue of taxes; Democratic donors are way to the left of their party's voter base on the issues of abortion and guns," Matt Grossmann, a political science professor at Michigan State University and director of the school's Institute for Public Policy and Social Research, tells The Signal. "In other countries, these different interests would distribute themselves across a number of different political parties, but in the U.S., there are only two major parties, so the vast majority of voters end up in one or the other." Read the whole interview here.


FREE MARKETS

"Build Back Better" spending plan rebranded as Inflation Reduction Act. Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) is reportedly on board with a trimmed-down version of President Joe Biden's spending proposal—which in proper Orwellian fashion has been rebranded as an inflation-curbing initiative. More from Reason's Eric Boehm:

In a statement on Wednesday evening, Manchin announced The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, a bill that the swing-vote senator says will be built around "paying down our national debt, lowering energy costs and lowering healthcare costs."

Though Manchin's statement is light on specifics about the bill, subsequent reporting by Politico and other outlets quickly fleshed out the proposal. The bill will include $370 billion in new spending on climate change initiatives and green energy projects—a linchpin of Biden's Build Back Better plan through its many, many interactions over the past year—and would dedicate about $300 billion of revenue toward reducing the deficit, which has been Manchin's top priority.

The bill also reportedly includes a three-year extension of the expanded Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies originally passed as a temporary measure during the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as changes to how federal health insurance programs price prescription drugs. Though pitched as a way to cut costs for households, the extension of those ACA subsidies could actually worsen inflation, as Reason's Peter Suderman has explained.

Boehm notes that "earlier versions of the Build Back Better plan were loaded up with gimmicks that in some cases hid as much as half of the package's overall cost," and since Manchin opposed these gimmicks, "it might be fair to assume that his support for this new deal is contingent on it being a clean bill." But an "inflation-combatting, deficit-reducing bill that doesn't combat inflation or reduce the deficit" is not exactly great…


QUICK HITS

The difference between 1 million & 1 billion always blows my mind.

One million seconds = 11.5 days.

One billion seconds = 32 years.

One trillion seconds = 31,688 years.

Congress took $3.8 trillion in taxes last year. Yet it had a $3 trillion deficit. This is not right.

— A lady (@Anastasia_esq) July 28, 2022

• How the Supreme Court's decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization opened up an attack on doctors.

• Stop blaming the Supreme Court for telling Congress to do its job, suggests Hillsdale College politics professor Adam M. Carrington at National Review.

• The CHIPS Act—which passed the Senate on Wednesday—"is corporate welfare disguised as industrial policy," writes Veronique de Rugy.

• Yet another city in the U.K. is trying to ban strip clubs.

• For Reason's banned books issue, Ron Bailey looks back at the banning of Lady Chatterley's Lover.

• What's next for school choice?

• An interesting chart on labor and immigration:

U.S. Labor Demand Explains Most of the Rise in Illegal Immigrationhttps://t.co/atnWGfiLlW pic.twitter.com/pXjoma1PDq

— The Alex Nowrasteh (@AlexNowrasteh) July 27, 2022

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    "Build Back Better" spending plan rebranded as Inflation Reduction Act.

    The Counter Putin's Economy Act

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      This booming economy is great

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        OK, boomer.

        1. workstar   3 years ago

          I made $30,030 in just 5 weeks working part-time right from my apartment. When I lost my last business I got tired right away and luckily I found this job online and with that I am able to start reaping lots right through my house. Anyone can achieve this top level career and make more money online by:-
          .
          Reading this article:>>>> https://brilliantfuture01.blogspot.com/

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        My stake on spittin tobaccy ETFs has made me a billionaire since inflation is just profits.

      3. Weigel's Cock Ring   3 years ago

        Strongest economy ever, inflation is transitory (and all Putin's fault), Joe Biden is not corrupt he's the second greatest president ever (Block Insane Yomomna of course is first), every American is working more productively than ever before, the stock market year to date performance is completely irrelevant, put your mask back on and get your fourth booster shot to slow the spread, blah blah blah blah blah.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          But don't forget all the existential crises that will kill us all (global climate something, pandemic something, MAGA-Republican-Nazi something, institutional racism something, gender oppression something) unless we submit to the new woke world order and vote only for the most progressive Democrats at least twice.

          (Propagandizing simultaneous elation and despair is a challenge.)

    2. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

      What a monstrous, fucking lie = Inflation Reduction Act

      1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

        "Gilligan has promised me that inflation can be curbed with the IRA."

        "It's Ira, sir."

        "Oh, I'm sorry, Gilligan... will be curbed with the Ira."

        -please, somebody get this reference

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          If I googled it would it still count? Not going to in any case. Just asking.

        2. Super Scary   3 years ago

          Based on my knowledge of Gilligans, it's either from Gilligan's Island or...the lady from X-Files.

          1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

            It's Arrested Development. 🙁

      2. Zeb   3 years ago

        They aren't even doing euphemisms anymore; just calling it the opposite of the truth.

    3. CE   3 years ago

      Well, if all the new IRS agents squeeze more money out of people, they WILL have less left to spend...

  2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    GDP drops for 2 quarters in a row.

    Thanks, SleepyJoe!

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Not a recession!

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        What's a recession? It's like you're speaking some weird language. Who even uses words like that? It's such a strange word that nobody has ever used before that we need to have people define to us so we can understand it.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

          Did you fall into some ice and later got thawed out by some of our scientists?

        2. HorseConch   3 years ago

          There's no doubt in my mind that the word recession has its roots in white supremacy.

    2. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      But thank God we are not in a recession!
      The people who say men are women all agree this is NOT a recession.

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Man. And to think just 2 days ago we were being told by a commenter here that the economy was still growing as far as he knew.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        But he wasn’t sure about the price of lobster rolls in Maine.

    4. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      Tell that to Big Spittin' Tobaccy.

    5. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      But sarc told me that this wasn't happening.

      sarcasmic
      July.26.2022 at 1:47 pm
      Recession is defined as two consecutive quarters with negative growth. GDP is increasing last I checked. It's on life support, but still positive.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Expect another temper tantrum today.

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Lol. Down below he is still claiming q1 was positive per his Google search.

  3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    Nobody cares about meta.

  4. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

    "Meta is a potential entrant in the virtual reality dedicated fitness app market with the required resources and a reasonable probability of building its own virtual reality app to compete in the space," says the FTC in a statement.

    Such bullshit. The company making the app is probably making solely so they can sell it to a company like Meta. It's like saying it's anti-trust to let Disney have the rights to make Marvel movies, when Marvel wanted to sell the property rights to a big production house.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Ha! Based on the economic principle of "you didn't build that" nobody should think they can create something and expect to sell to another party without the permission of The People, aka government.

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

      Of course. And if the FTC blocks this, they'll just sell to or merge with someone else.

    3. Homer Thompson   3 years ago

      Within was founded in 2014 by Chris Milk and Aaron Koblin. Within creates products, original content, formats, proprietary software and tools for virtual and augmented reality entertainment, fitness, and learning.

      Investors include Andreessen Horowitz, Temasek, Emerson Collective, Disney, 21st Century Fox, Raine Ventures, WME, Live Nation, Vice Media, Tribeca Enterprises, Annapurna Pictures, and Legendary Pictures.

  5. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Democrats introduce bill to fund abortions world wide.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/dems-introduce-bill-to-fund-abortions-around-the-world-with-foreign-aid

    1. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

      This is reaching fetish levels.
      Absolutely absurd.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Insane signalers gotta signal.

    2. Dillinger   3 years ago

      fuck you Alito we'll take the murder machine global.

      1. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

        I assume with an accompanying global baby body parts marketplace.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          Stem Cells. For the Fauci labs that he is not involved in and are no longer research labs.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            Are they in (or not in) Ukraine?

    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

      As long as they're using their own money. Oh, wait...

  6. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

    Put this in the you reap what you sow. Meta wants a totalitarian goverment that dictates what companies do, they deserve to get it good and hard

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Meta wants a totalitarian goverment that dictates what other companies do

      FTFY

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        I wonder if we should encourage the meta thing, and hope that the people most inclined to live in an imaginary universe include most progressives. They could then have their meta-reality, including a meta-one world government, meta-genders, meta-equity, and meta-climate.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          But then they’ll just mandate everyone enter the meta. For the children.

          1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

            They'll mandate everyone pay for their real life housing and equipment, energy and food while they play in their imaginary land.

        2. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          Ready Player One!

  7. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Censorinf accurate covid information worked so well the WHO calls to censor information on monkeypox.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/who-director-calls-on-social-media-and-new-outlets-to-regulate-monkeypox-disinformation

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Can't let the information proliferate or else people may take precautions and then the infection burns out.

      1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

        No, they won't take precautions.

        Didn't you read about Sergio Rodriguez? "a transgender queer man who lives in the East Village, said he tried to get vaccinated before Pride Weekend, but was turned away. He hooked up with a few people..." yada, yada, yada, he got the pox and it's the government's fault.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Libertarianism is freedom to do anything you want without consequences. Well according to the leftists parading as libertarians.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Long before they changed the definition of “woman” and “vaccines”, they changed the definition of “libertine”.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            And that includes the commenters who have given me shit for being a "responsibility fetishist", especially when I dared bring up the concept of responsibility for pregnancy and abortion.

        2. American Mongrel   3 years ago

          Unable to parse transgender queer man

    2. Eeyore   3 years ago

      Let me guess. Participating in orgies is the best way to protect yourself from the pox. Saying anything else is disinformation.

  8. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Chicago tribune.

    “Kid-friendly drag performances are modified to be appropriate for children — more akin to Disney than anything risqué,” The Tribune celebrated.

    Normalization continues.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/more-akin-to-disney-than-anything-risque-chicago-tribune-celebrates-drag-shows-for-kids

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      drag performances are modified to be appropriate for children

      You mean they are canceling them?

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      WHY DO YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE!!??!

      — Pedo Jeffy

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Gays against groomers are right wing - also jeffy

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      How long before Disney character junior condoms?

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        I'm afraid to see if it already exists.

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Victoria's Secret children's line.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          That's Victor/Victoria Junior preteen line.

    4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      more akin to Disney

      Nice self-own, Chicago Tribune.

    5. Nardz   3 years ago

      https://www.city-journal.org/in-portland-the-sexual-revolution-starts-in-kindergarten

      The new curriculum translates the principles of academic queer theory into K-12 pedagogy. The premise is simple: privileged heterosexual “white colonizers” have created an oppressive “gender binary” in order to exploit racial and sexual minorities.

      Beginning in kindergarten, teaches give anatomy lessons with graphic drawings of children’s genitalia. The lessons refer to “person with a penis” and “person with a vulva,” because some girls have penises and some boys have vulvas. “Any gender and kid can have any type of body.”

      In first and second grade, students are introduced to basic queer theory. “Many people think there are only two genders, girls and boys, but this is not true. There are many ways to be a boy, a girl, both or neither. Gender identity is about how you feel about yourself inside.”

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Jeff is still in denial.

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          Chemjeff is a Stalinist pedophile

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Is there any pushback on this insanity? Who voted for this shit? Is this cool with Portland parents? Honestly baffled here.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          Yes to all questions. Yes there is pushback, yes it's cool with many Portland parents. Yes they voted for it, even those pushing back.

  9. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    Good morning Peanuts! This is your daily reminder not to obsess about GDP. I admit I wouldn't shut up about the abysmal GDP performance of 2020, but that was different. There was a Republican in the White House. Now that we have President Joe Biden there are more relevant metrics. For example liberal capitalist Larry Page made $6.41 billion yesterday. That means the economy is great and Biden deserves all the credit.

    #TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug

  10. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Twitter resumes censoring accounts for attacking the preferred narratives.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/free-speech/twitter-resumes-purge-scientists-critics-gender-ideology-after-musk-pullout

    1. Ronbback   3 years ago

      If gender is not sex then why are all the people who claim to be a different gender trying to change their sex?

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        It is completely illogical. They demand surgery to gain features determined by sex. But claim it isnt about sex. Just gender.

      2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

        There's no consistency to it. They say whatever is convenient in a given moment.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Post modernism in a nutshell.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            Intentional insanity that they dare others to challenge.

          2. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

            Intersectional dress up

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        To affirm their gender.

  11. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

    "In other countries, these different interests would distribute themselves across a number of different political parties, but in the U.S., there are only two major parties, so the vast majority of voters end up in one or the other."

    Other countries have Parliamentary systems, though, which have their own weaknesses. The loyalty of someone in Parliament is exclusively to the party and not to their constituents.

    Now, that's become the case in the US, to an extent, but then you still have the Manchins, Sinemas, and Liz Cheney's who are able to break free from their parties. This doesn't happen in Canada, where they can force the party to vote in concert on a certain issue (I forget the term but someone can remind me), or else they get kicked out of the party.

    What we need to do in the US is expand Congress. Massively. Instead of each representative speaking for over 750,000 people spread over large areas with differing interests, it should be closer to 100,000 people in more concentrated areas with more direct concerns. And yes, that makes getting sufficient consensus on legislation harder, WHICH IS GOOD.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Please, no more politicians.

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        I'd be happier to greatly diminish the power of any single politician.

        1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          Also, at our level of technology, there's really no need for Congress to all convene in one single building, anyway. We wouldn't need to rebuild the capitol. Just have members vote electronically. We could still request that they all maintain an office in DC for the purpose of keeping government centralized, but it's not like there's any actual policy being resolved on the floor of Congress anymore. Not since C-Span, anyway-everything that happens in open session is performative, now.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Just as long as Zuckerberg is in charge of fortifying Congress’s electronic votes.

            1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

              Congressional votes are matters of public record, though. It's not anonymous balloting. If there's an error, the Congressman can see that his vote is improperly registered and correct it. It wouldn't need to be a sophisticated system at all.

              1. Ronbback   3 years ago

                its not about the public votes its all the closed door shenanigans that they partake in that can't happen electronically unless you are Hillary and erase all your records and say oops.

              2. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

                That is not true. Congress has gone to going to a voice vote more and more so that in spite if the actual vote and who voted for what they can shove through anything they want and not take blame.
                For the vote on the first wu flu bail out it was listed as unanimous yes, Massie (and a few others) voted no and wanted a record of the vote, but they were recorded as part of the unanimous yes

              3. R Mac   3 years ago

                And if a member of the minority party says “That’s not how I voted.” and the speaker says gfys, then what?

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  Because I don’t know if you’ve noticed, the current speaker doesn’t seem to care about rules, and nobody is doing anything to stop her.

                2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

                  I mean if they're going to do that with electronic votes, they'll do it with any voting method. At that point we have a complete breakdown in government's ability to operate if Congresspeople are not in control of their own votes. I don't think we're exactly there, however.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Of you think voice voting is bad, wait until a lobbyist pays for access to the voting button.

          3. Ronbback   3 years ago

            Congress could do everything thru zoom from their home state but they need the privacy of DC for back stabbing and bribing of fellow members. Hard to deny when its on a media platform, to much evidence

          4. CE   3 years ago

            Skip Congress and just have legislature duty like we have jury duty. Select 500 random people each day to vote on the next day's bills, so they have 24 hours to study them first (with no bill allowed to be over 10 pages or cover more than one subject.)

            1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

              That's how the Boule worked in Athens-members chosen by lot to serve for a year.

              Here's the problem, though. If you own a small business, you can't just take a year off from work to serve your term in the Senate. We have exceptions for jury duty for the same reason. The problem is that lawmaking is a more pervasive need than jurors and will affect more people than those on trial, so certain people being excluded based on their industry or personal responsibilities is not ideal. Farmers did not serve on the Boule in Athens for similar reasons, and it created some predictable problems.

    2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      In other countries, these different interests would distribute themselves across a number of different political parties

      ...and the effect is largely the same; you get a big block of right-leaning parties banding together to form a government or you get a big block of left-leaning parties banding together to form a government. "Moderate" coalitions are exactly like our neocon/neolib uniparty and "rainbow" coalitions usually don't last more than a couple of months.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Well, then, how about less government, at least at the federal level?

        Yeah, just a crazy idea. Sorry.

        1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

          That would solve most of our problems with the way Congress is structured.

        2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          We need to do that, too. But you can have more Congressmen while reducing the power of Congress, and I think diluting the influence of each Congressperson is actually one way to reduce Congress' influence.

      2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        What we need to do in the US is expand Congress.

        I disagree. What we need to do is reduce the influence of the federal government. 400 or so windbags is more than enough to debate the details of implementing the powers granted by the Constitution.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          You mean circumventing the restrictions on government imposed by the Constitution.

    3. Claptrap   3 years ago

      Other countries have Parliamentary systems, though, which have their own weaknesses. The loyalty of someone in Parliament is exclusively to the party and not to their constituents.

      "Parties in FPTP systems build their coalitions before elections; parties in other systems build them afterwards." Reason's complaints here are always special pleading for influence from a party that refuses to participate in a governing coalition, like the Arabs in the Knesset.

      What we need to do in the US is expand Congress. Massively. Instead of each representative speaking for over 750,000 people spread over large areas with differing interests, it should be closer to 100,000 people in more concentrated areas with more direct concerns.

      Absolutely. The UK is 1/5 our size - why do they have near twice as many MPs as we have Congressmen? Note also that you do this and concerns about gerrymandering and Popular/Electoral vote differences in the EC are mostly mooted. It would also make it much, much more likely that kooky offshoots, single-issue/candidate parties, and ideologically rigid third parties could actually gain some honest representation.

  12. R Mac   3 years ago

    Is ENB getting brown envelopes from the tech companies?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Filled with white powder?

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Porn?

    3. Dillinger   3 years ago

      fingers?

  13. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    the two-party system creates "a disconnect between elites and non-elites"

    Of course it does. And that's a good thing from a Koch / Reason libertarian perspective, since our entire philosophy is about helping the elite. Specifically it's about making billionaires like our benefactor Charles Koch even richer.

    I mean, would you rather have President Biden answer to the tens of millions of middle class and poor voters who supported him? Or would you rather have him do what he's been doing — governing for the benefit of his billionaire donors?

    #OBLsFirstLaw

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Meta acquiring Within allows Meta to bring some of the best virtual reality fitness programs to the metaverse without duplicating Within developers' efforts"

    Duh, the basic operating principle of government is duplication (at least) of efforts. And the purpose of our social-democratic-fascist society is to run businesses like (or as part of) government. We need more people paid to do the same thing, regardless of costs and benefits.

  15. R Mac   3 years ago

    How the Supreme Court's decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization opened up an attack on doctors.

    • Stop blaming the Supreme Court for telling Congress to do its job, suggests Hillsdale College politics professor Adam M. Carrington at National Review.

    Imagine un-ironically posting these two things in a row.

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      It seems to be more of pushing the elite as the political leaders. We need to blindly trust doctors and scientists or something. You can have no opinion.

      1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        We need to blindly trust doctors and scientists or something

        And those doctors and scientists that disagree with the bureaucrats will have their qualifications revoked.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Good. How can someone be an official doctor or scientist and contradict the Party?

          #LysenkoWasRight

  16. JesseAz   3 years ago

    FBI was giving incentives and demanding more crimes being classified as domestic terrorism to pad numbers.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/07/28/more-whistleblower-info-on-fbi-padding-stats-helping-biden-narrative-on-domestic-extremism-n602897

    The FBI is nearly purely political now.

    1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

      The FBI needs dismantling in a big way.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    How the Supreme Court's decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization opened up an attack on doctors.

    Congress' time to shine!

  18. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Also want to ask yet again why Reason continues to ignore the destruction of ESG policies globally, specifically on food supplies.

    They can whine and bitch about regulations on silicon valley that effects some people but then completely ignore the seemingly coordinated effort of WEF connected elites on global markets that effect everyone.

    It is very telling.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Let's see. What would elites living in coastal bubbles worry more about? Trendy tech issues involving billionaires or third world (that includes any rural region) farmers?

      1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        I believe both. There appears to be a WEF and billionaire obsession with population growth and a good way of controlling it is with mass starvation. Big Tech is also a way of control. One of the big Tech companies has an operation going where they are trying to decipher brain waves hence reading peoples minds. Somethings coming to a head. We are being fed lies and forced to testify that it's the truth.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Stop blaming the Supreme Court for telling Congress to do its job...

    They all took constitutional oaths, after all.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The CHIPS Act—which passed the Senate on Wednesday—"is corporate welfare disguised as industrial policy..."

    Your legislator doesn't work for free.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Yet another city in the U.K. is trying to ban strip clubs.

    "Fancy a pasty titty, guv'na?"

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Sexual attraction is patriarchal and must be stopped!

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Fucking redneck Southern X-tians.

      ENB is writing another column blaming American Evangelicals and the Moral Majority as we speak..

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        In this case, it's Kockney Konservative Khristian Kunts and Lousy Labour Lotharian-Lynchers.

        From the article:

        Attacks on SEVs are often fuelled by various groups of ‘feminist’ campaigners who claim the existence of strip clubs – and of sex work more generally – perpetuates harmful misogyny and gendered violence. But according to leading academics studying sex work, like Dr Jessica Simpson of Greenwich University, there is “no credible evicence” to support this.

        I don't know about you, but I'll go along with Dr. Jessica Simpson. 🙂

        Jessica Simpson - I Think I'm in Love with You
        https://youtu.be/U7uxf8kBBlg

    3. Think It Through   3 years ago

      British strip club news seems.....irrelevant to my world. Relevant to the world that Reason covers? How?

      How are the Saudi and Iranian strip clubs going?

  22. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    What's next for school choice?

    The rapid retreat of public school lockdown culture and everyone forgets?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Or a deliberate effort to ban private schools, charters, and home-schooling.

      1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        ^ this.

        California tries to shut down homeschool every few years. The Teacher's union of California is frothing at the mouth over parents escaping the clutches of the shitty public schools here.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Meta has been betting big that virtual reality (V.R.) and augmented reality (A.R.) will finally have their day...

    The FTC must have a lot of Facebook stock they don't want to see tank by VR folly.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    But there's also a disconnect between elites and non-elites—within both parties...

    Hey, you got Trump for a while.

  25. Sevo   3 years ago

    "House committee finds AR-15 style guns brought in over $1 billion in last decade"
    [...]
    "Sales of AR-15 style weapons have brought in more than $1 billion in revenue for gun manufacturing companies in the last decade, according to a House investigation released on Wednesday..."

    Guns and the concept of actually making a profit! Kryptonite to proggies!

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Selling something popular results in its manufacturer making money. I am shocked! Shocked, i say!

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        BTW, the headline in the dead tree version this morning had the $1Bn as "profits", and even that claim avoided any comment regarding percentages.
        J-school fucking idiots...

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Finance math, and ethics, are hard.

    2. Ronbback   3 years ago

      they always pick some number of years till it comes up with a number to make things sound more scary or sinister than they are, why stop at ten why not 20 or a 100. BTW revenue is not the same as profit

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        US federal government has brought in more than $33 trillion during the past decade!

        Really. But spent almost $48 trillion.

    3. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      The gun industry thanks House Democrats profusely for the last 10 years of free advertising.

    4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      "AR-15 style guns"

      It's a style.

      1. Dillinger   3 years ago

        hey Maloney (D) the pink guns still tear shit up

    5. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      LOL. Legitimate companies sold legal products to willing buyers and THEY MADE MONEY DOING IT!

      Democrats: OMG!L!!?!?!!!!

  26. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    it might be fair to assume that his support for this new deal is contingent on it being a clean bill

    What from Manchin's history could possibly make you think that? If anything, I think it's fair to assume the bill is loaded with handouts to his wife.

  27. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    Stop blaming the Supreme Court for telling Congress to do its job, suggests Hillsdale College politics professor Adam M. Carrington at National Review.

    Posted right after a link bitching about Dobbs. And i'm sure the irony is 100% lost on you.

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Reason writers are nominally independent, so they may (occasionally) have differing opinions.

      1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        Whoops, that should be Reason Editors.

      2. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

        Even from themselves

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          Matt Welch [unwittingly?] called to have the communications decency act repealed, which means a repeal of section 230. Unless he comes back and does the Democrat version of deregulation: repeal and replace!

  28. Sevo   3 years ago

    "WHO chief advises men who have sex with men to reduce partners to limit exposure to monkeypox"
    [...]
    "(CNN)The vast majority of cases in the growing monkeypox outbreak are among men who have sex with men, according to the World Health Organization. WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus advised members of this community Wednesday to limit their exposure to the virus by reducing their number of sex partners and reconsidering sex with new partners..."

    Oh, NO! My activities might affect my health?!

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Locking billions at home for months and crashing economies over a really bad cold is one thing, but banning orgies for a couple of months is the real authoritarianism.

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      Two solid years of hatred for people who fought against wearing the useless masks or didn't want the useless vaccine. Hatred and claims that we were killing grandmas, while guys like Cuomo actually killed grandmas. Yet the guys who are going to continue to spread the completely preventable ass-pox until grandma comes down with it are beyond criticism.

      Every 'public health official' should be hanged over the entrance to the building they work in. Every single fucking one of them that refuses to denounce the ass-pox spreaders.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      And your "activities" might affect your pregnancy status!

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Monkey Pox can have periods too, bigot.

  29. Ronbback   3 years ago

    In America, you still see a lot of high-income voters in the Republican Party"

    stereo typical left wing garbage talking point in first sentence not much need to read further

    1. Illocust   3 years ago

      Aren't modern statistics the opposite, that most wealthy people vote Democrat? Or is lot being used as a weasel word here.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        But those are good wealthy people, not the evil rich people who vote (R).

      2. CE   3 years ago

        Most of the high income wage earners (with mountains of student loans) are Dems. But there are still a few high income entrepreneurs who continue to be Repubs. Which is why the Dems are sending forth swarms of new IRS officers to find out how they made it through the pandemic without going bankrupt. They must be hiding something.

        1. Dillinger   3 years ago

          >>swarms of new IRS officers

          armed with those scary ar-15s

        2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

          But there are still a few high income entrepreneurs who continue to be Repubs.

          AKA kulaks and wreckers. Those the IRS doesn't get will be swept up by the FBI for lying to the IRS.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Bien pensant Democrats see the world as a series of old tropes.

    3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      I think it's still true that the Republicans have a good chunk of upper-middle class white voters compared to say, inner city welfare recipients.

      Biden DID get 90% percent of the black vote overall and black americans make up the biggest part of the lowest quintile of income.

      Basically the democrats have a firm stranglehold on the very poor and that hasn't changed much. Now, lower working class and middle working class have certainly been moving away from the party of drag queen story hour and personal pronouns...

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

        "if we get this passed we'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 100 years"
        Lbj on welfare

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

          Not that the WEF isn't a big problem but I'm not going to worry about anyone reading my mind any time soon. Anyway, I've heard a tin foil hat can prevent that.

      2. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        Joe Biden's highest approval ratings are from Blacks. Depending on the poll 55% to 70%.

  30. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    "FTC believes that Within deal a "VR fitness app monopoly" on the Oculus platform."

    Like Facebook, Oculus is CIA funded via In-Q-Tel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel#Software
    Left column, five down.

    Maybe they don't want all their eggs in the same basket?

  31. Dillinger   3 years ago

    >>In America, you still see a lot of high-income voters in the Republican Party

    lol 1990 called, Matt Grossman, political science professor @MSU

  32. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    Another reason to end the two-party system.

    How? Are you gonna force people to vote for other parties?

  33. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Weekend at Bernies:

    Here’s 20 seconds of a pre-recorded speech Joe Biden gave yesterday. Take a look at how much the White House edited it.
    (I did not edit this in any way)

    (video)

    https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_/status/1552114134224887813

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Here’s the two videos back and forth. Pay attention to his physical appearance and his voice. Again, both supposedly from today, both only a few hours apart. What the hell is happening here?

      https://twitter.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/1552124554918727681

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        And people claim Reagan was senile. I've seen clips of Reagan from 1987 and 1988, and he was charming, coherent, and unedited.

      2. Eeyore   3 years ago

        Just trying out different cgi effects companies to see if we notice. For when the president dies or can't talk anymore.

  34. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

    Off-Topic...so far:

    Hey look, everybody! It's The Reason Roundup Road Show. 🙂

    Fight erupts among right-wing convoy truckers after rival faction hurls accusations of being 'pedo protectors': report
    Brad Reed
    https://www.rawstory.com/trucker-convoy-dc-2657756230/

    This nation will never defeat Biden or Antifa, BLM, SJWs, and Wokesters with shit like this! And you know Red China, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Russia all eat this up and laugh!

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      ???

      Watched the video. Seems like a late night territorial squabble between two pushy individuals, not some sort of internecine ideological battle.

      I don't think it actually reflects on, well, anything.

      1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        Which one is FBI?

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Probably a few in both and neither group knows it. You'll notice I stay away from the crazier threads here. There's a reason for that.

      2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        You're so deep into this, you don't even notice when it's happening here?

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Deep into what? And no, what's happening here?

          1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            Just about every Comment section here has a thread like this street fracas.

  35. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Just like how chemleft, White Mike and sarcasmic hate it when we post their old quotes after narrative shifts:

    RNC now passing along quotes of Biden's own economic advisors, as recently as last May, defining "recession" the old fashioned way.
    (quotes)

    https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1552365720721399817

    1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      I have no problem with you posting quotes of mine. It's always an opportunity to show how stupid you are.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Well thats not true at all.

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        You claimed it was stalker behavior to repost things you've said.

        sarcasmic
        January.19.2022 at 12:43 pm
        No shit. Occasionally when Reason logs me out and I'm subjected to comments from JesseAZ and Mother's Lament, I'm downright creeped out by their admission to having pages and pages of bookmarks to "prove" whatever nonsense they're peddling about me or some other recipient of their troll's wrath.

        Well excuse the fuck out of me for not bookmarking comments and taking copious notes on these Reason comments.
        I'll leave that to the trolls I have on mute.

        https://reason.com/2022/01/19/voters-around-the-world-are-cooling-on-populists-gravitating-toward-technocrats/?comments=true#comment-9312367

        1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

          LOL

        2. R Mac   3 years ago

          Embarrassing.

    2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      Do you mean when I did a google search on 'US Q1 GDP' and repeated what I found?

      According to you that makes me a liar because I should have known the numbers that came out a few days later.

      According to anyone with a brain (that excludes your troll buddies, they'll proudly announce themselves soon enough) that makes you an intellectually dishonest piece of garbage who cares only for scoring points, and who has never had any interest in the truth. Just a point scoring troll. Internet garbage.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Q1 was negative retard.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          If he'd only spend a second thinking before hitting 'submit', he'd have a very different experience here.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            You give his thinking to much credit.

  36. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    The CHIPS Act—which passed the Senate on Wednesday—"is corporate welfare disguised as industrial policy,"

    That's pretty much every spending bill.

    Make the Commerce Clause great again.

  37. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    Build Back Better" spending plan rebranded as Inflation Reduction Act.

    Calling it the Inflaction Reduction Act is Ministry-of-Truth-level bullshit. Unreal.

  38. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    What's next for school choice?

    The death of all public school? One can hope.

  39. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Public trust in media is close to non-existent. This new Gallup poll reveals that only the Dem-controlled Congress (7%) is trusted less by the public than TV news (11%), with newspapers (16%) also very near the bottom.
    Almost zero self-critique from journalists about why.

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1544436943890837504

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      And journalists are fuming over it.

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

        Bohem will blame the readers for calling him out on his bs

    2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      There's a reason I get new subs every day. People are desperate for any type of media that discusses the news like normal people instead of DNC drones.

  40. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    On purpose or through ineptitude?

    Skyrocketing natural gas prices are ravaging Europe and oil prices are likely to pop once Strategic Petroleum Reserve releases end, and yet the Biden administration has "no energy plan past November," a senior energy industry insider tells me. Scary stuff

    (link)

    https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1552333120350785537

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      So nothing past the election, that makes sence

  41. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    As a Canadian this is exactly how I feel about Trudeau. Substitute J6 for the truckers. The Davos lunatics are running the same racket in multiple countries:

    Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays
    Jul 27
    Am I supposed to feel as if the President of the United States is my personal enemy?
    Because I do.
    Every time Biden says "insurrection" I imagine people who look a lot like me being imprisoned by people who have been duped by Biden's gaslighting.
    There is a line.

    https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1552271170816200704

  42. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Let's put a name and a face to the worst of the FBI hoaxers.

    Meet the FBI Analyst Behind The Decade’s Biggest Political Disinformation Campaigns
    Brian Auten pushed Trump-Russia collusion and is now accused of discrediting Hunter Biden stories

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      I don't know if it's comforting or disturbing that it's the same guy in both cases.

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Time to get the wood chippers fired up. Brian.

  43. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Simultaneous news stories:

    1. Trump was allegedly too slow (178 minutes!) in speaking out against the jan6th protest violence during the fog of war.

    2. Insiders complain that Biden puts off important decisions for a year and . . . probably doesn't understand them.

    Context.

    https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1552280258035851264

    Someone needs to make a list of all the things one would need to believe to be a Democrat.

    1. Republicans don't bring guns to their own coup.
    2. Trump knew the election was fair. (Um, how?)
    3. Trump talks in "mafia talk" in which words such as "find" mean crime.

    https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1550821490697723905

    1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      Trump was allegedly too slow (178 minutes!) in speaking out against the jan6th protest violence during the fog of war.</I.

      Wait, hold on. I haven't been following j6 at all because who gives a shit but... is this really the main charge against Trump and why he is supposedly at fault?

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Yes.

        So far the narrative of the hearing's has been:

        1. Trump attempted a planned insurrection.

        2. Okay, loosely planned.

        3. Okay, not planned, but he encouraged it.

        4. Okay, he didn't encourage it, but he didn't try to stop it.

        5. Okay, he did try to stop the protest, but he should have done more, and sooner. Less than three hours is still too long, and tweets and a video address aren't enough...

        1. Eeyore   3 years ago

          6. He should have gone the capital personally and start killing his own fans with a firearm.

  44. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Judicial Watch @JudicialWatch
    “The Secret Service is violating FOIA law by slow-rolling and hiding Hunter Biden records,” Judicial Watch President @TomFitton
    in The Washington Examiner. READ:

    https://twitter.com/JudicialWatch/status/1552268308929515520

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      What happens when you have nothing to lose politically? A lot of fun.

      Benny Johnson @bennyjohnson
      Matt Gaetz single-handedly brings DOWN Biden Crime family by pulling out copy of Hunter Biden laptop during speech:
      "I entered it in the Congressional record!"

      https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1551655806281605121

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Now that Hunter's laptop contents are entered into the congressional record I wonder what the establishment will pull next?

  45. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Tulsi Gabbard @TulsiGabbard
    Telltale sign of an authoritarian regime is when those in power target & prosecute their political opponents and protect their own. That's exactly what the Biden/Harris Admin are doing - undermining our democracy, eroding our trust in the rule of law & equal justice for all.

    https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1551906518961905665

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      I honestly can't figure out if Tulsi is just looking for a grift, or is so pissed at the DNC for undermining Bernie in 2016 that she's willing to burn the whole edifice to the ground.

      1. Nardz   3 years ago

        Probably a little column A, a little column B

      2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

        They didn't just undermine Bernie. They came at her HARD for standing up to the DNC in the first place. Hillary called her a Russian shill! My guess is because Tulsi is ACTUALLY anti-war.

  46. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Muh private company:

    Grace Chong (ultra/dark) @gc22gc
    Not simply Facebook…Twitter is loaded with Intelligence Community hires …these social media platforms are up to their neck in ‘national security’ connections and cash ….

    https://twitter.com/gc22gc/status/1552003187363590144

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      On a roll Mother.

  47. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

    Probably a few in both. You'll notice I try to avoid the crazier threes in these Comments.

  48. CE   3 years ago

    Start your engines for 2024:
    NewsNation poll on top Prez choices if Biden and Trump don't run:

    Dems:
    Someone else: 44.2%
    K. Harris: 16.1%
    B. Sanders: 10.7%
    G. Newsom: 8.9%
    P. Buttigieg: 7.8%
    AOC: 5.6%
    G. Whitmer: 4.2%
    (it's like a rogues' gallery)

    Repubs:
    Someone else: 38.1%
    R. DeSantis: 23.4%
    M. Pence: 20.5%
    N. Haley: 4.8%
    T. Cruz: 4.7%
    G. Abbot: 3.8%

    1. JimboJr   3 years ago

      Desantis wipes the floor with any of the dems. Their bench is dismal

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Not a republican but I'll go Desantes or Trump at this point.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      P. Buttigieg: 7.8%

      And they had such high hopes for Mayor Pete. He even attended the World Economic Forum's Leadership Course.

      https://www.weforum.org/people/peter-buttigieg

      I guess that there's a few duds now and then.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        he has the unfortunate position that pride/gay wins him lots of points and social cred among libs...but his white skin and cis gender lose him more.

        If he was black or transitioning he would potentially be all the rage of the democrats. But the window for 'just gay' was sadly (for him) very small, and he is about to get hit with all the 'cis white' attacks and benefit very little from his LGBTQ cred.

        And of course conservatives wont vote for him. So he is effectively done. Likely he will go on to be a pundit after he's done and will have a cushy safe job at CNN.

      2. JimboJr   3 years ago

        also didnt you hear?

        An unarmed black person died in his city when he was mayor, therefore he is a racist, by the new CRT definition.

        Id feel bad for him if he wasnt a sociopathic narcissist

  49. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Build your own vr fitness company

  50. Merryl   3 years ago

    Metaverse, which is now growing with a large turnover, gives many game developers the opportunity to get experience in VR projects and startups. I, for example, already did a couple of my modest ideas based on metaverse with the help of great gamedev specialists. If you are interested, you can read more info about it on the web.

  51. Olman Grand   3 years ago

    That's actually might be promising since VR games are getting quite popular. Even though I'm more into slot games, I know that many people are buying VR sets and getting into virtual reality because that's pretty entertaining, and even I might consider something like that as well one day. But for now, I prefer gambling

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