Poll: Tech Regulation Should Focus on Privacy and Security—Not Breaking Up Big Tech Companies
Plus: Arizona prisons censor The Nation, Facebook's feed changes, and more...

Americans have different priorities than lawmakers when it comes to tech regulation. People don't want to see Congress use antitrust law against big tech, according to a new poll from AXIS Research. Tech regulations, in general, are low on people's list of things the government should prioritize.
Only 1 percent of voters surveyed said it should be the top priority. And if Congress is going to spend time passing new tech laws, people think these should be aimed at issues surrounding security and privacy, not competition. Given a list of tech-related topics Congress could focus on, 21 percent of people chose data privacy as the top priority. This was followed by protecting consumers from scams and malware (12 percent), measures to protect children online (11 percent), combating misinformation online (11 percent), and helping to address cyber attacks (11 percent). Only 4 percent said "breaking up large tech companies into smaller ones" was most important and only 3 percent said "limiting large technology companies from growing further" was a major priority.
When pollsters described provisions of the American Innovation and Choice Online Act—an antitrust bill that would make it illegal for Apple, Google, Facebook, and other big tech companies to prioritize their own products or content—79 percent of Republicans, 72 percent of independents and 59 percent of Democrats were somewhat or strongly opposed to it. People also were less likely to favor regulation that creates different rules for businesses based on size, as the American Innovation and Choice Online Act does. Fifty-seven percent said they preferred having "one set of regulations for all businesses."
The poll was conducted at the beginning of July and involved 1,219 likely 2022 voters. Thirty-six percent identified as Republicans, 38 percent as Democrats, 23 percent as independents, 1 percent as Libertarians, and 2 percent as something else.
It found that antitrust law that focuses on stopping companies from getting too big is not what consumers want. Asked what the government should prioritize "when it comes to regulating companies," only 16 percent chose "keeping businesses from getting too big." Thirty percent said the government should focus on more choices for consumers and more than half—54 percent—said lowering prices should be the priority.
This is in line with the consumer welfare model of antitrust law, which judges whether certain business conduct is illegal based on whether it raises or lowers prices and whether it benefits consumers. In contrast, officials in the Biden administration—like Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan and Tim Wu, an adviser on the White House National Economic Council—and some Democrats in Congress believe the goal should be keeping business from getting too big and protecting competitors to big businesses, even if doing so raises prices or burdens consumers. (And some Republicans seem to think the goal of antitrust law should simply be punishing tech companies that make decisions they don't like.)
These poll results are somewhat at odds with some other polling on this issue. For instance, a 2019 poll from the progressive think tank Data for Progress found that "two-thirds of Americans want to break up companies like Amazon and Google," per a Vox headline.
How can polling on this be so different? Because pollsters often use leading questions.
In the Data for Progress survey, people were asked "would you support or oppose a policy breaking up big tech companies by undoing recent mergers, like Facebook buying Instagram, so there is more competition in the future?" Another question asks if people would support breaking up big tech "to ensure that platforms like Google and Amazon don't prioritize content they benefit from financially?"
These questions—reported as people simply supporting big-tech breakups—contain a lot of implicit assumptions. They tacitly suggest that current conditions are negative in some way (big companies are rigging the playing field or quashing competition) and that "breaking up big tech companies" would invariably fix these problems.
The Daily Beast recently cited 2021 polling from Data for Progress which purportedly shows voters in various states supporting the American Innovation and Choice Online Act. Before asking about the measure, pollsters told respondents that supporters say it would "limit major technology corporations abusing their power by squeezing out small businesses' products on their platforms and limiting consumers' choices." Pollsters also offered another side, saying that opponents "say this comes out of political motivations to burden these companies and would fundamentally alter the internet, decreasing consumers' convenience on major technology platforms." But without knowing anything else about the bill, it seems natural that Americans hearing these descriptions might be more likely to side against big businesses "abusing their power" to harm small businesses and consumers than more abstract claims about altering the internet or political bias.
The AXIS Research poll questions were sometimes leading in their own way—albeit not inaccurate descriptors of what the American Innovation and Choice Online Act could do.
"One issue in the news is a proposal in Congress for new regulations on U.S. technology companies that would limit their ability to feature their own products on their sites or applications," pollsters stated. "For example, Google would not be allowed to show Google Maps in search results and Amazon would not be able to offer guaranteed fast shipping. Overall, do you support or oppose these new regulations on U.S. technology companies?" Seventy percent of people surveyed said no.
The AXIS Research poll also saw 80 percent of respondents agree that "consumers benefit most when the government creates an environment where companies can freely compete" and only 30 percent agree that "government regulators should play a larger role in determining which products and services are allowed to compete in the marketplace."
I think these characterizations of tech regulations and the philosophies driving them are more accurate than the Data for Progress descriptors. Regardless, the discrepancies between poll results from the two entities highlight how slippery poll results can be and how political framing alters the way people feel about policy proposals.
FREE MINDS
Arizona prisons censored The Nation magazine over drag queen photo, article on black immigrants, says American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Arizona prisons have withheld "selected issues of The Nation magazine from incarcerated subscribers at least five times in the past 18 months on the basis that the issues promoted racial superiority or contained sexual content," says the ACLU in a press release. But:
The ACLU examined the withheld issues of The Nation and found no content promoting acts of violence, racism, degradation, or the superiority of one race over another. One prohibited issue had a cover story entitled "Black Immigrants Matter." Another issue that was banned, because it supposedly contained sexual content, had a photo of a fully-dressed 93-year-old drag queen in the magazine and a cartoon of two fully-dressed people kissing each other. The ADCRR regulation banning sexual content recently was held to be unconstitutional by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in another censorship case against the department.
Corene Kendrick, deputy director of the ACLU's National Prison Project, said "the ban on these issues of The Nation is yet another example of prisons routinely restricting materials that incarcerated people can access, by way of unconstitutional, arbitrary rules."
In a letter to the Arizona Department of Corrections, Rehabilitation, and Reentry (ADCRR), the ACLU and the ACLU of Arizona asked the prison system to correct the issue.
"This is not the first time the ACLU has called ADCRR to account for its arbitrary censorship policies," said Emerson Sykes, senior staff attorney at the ACLU's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. "In 2019, the ACLU successfully called on Arizona prison officials to allow Chokehold, Paul Butler's acclaimed nonfiction book on racial disparities in the criminal justice system. In 2021, the ACLU filed an amicus brief in support of a Black Muslim man who sued ADCRR for denying him access to religious texts, and to popular rap and R&B music such as Kendrick Lamar and The Weeknd. In January 2022, the Ninth Circuit ruled against ADCRR in the prisoner's favor."
FREE MARKETS
Facebook changes, government regulations…and the end of an era? Facebook announced last week that it will start filling users' home screens with algorithmically popular content from strangers, instead of focusing on content from friends and the pages that a user follows. (A separate feed will still feature this content, in chronological order.) "By filtering content from personal connections out of the primary Home screen, Facebook's experience will begin to look and feel much more like a content and product discovery engine than a social networking site," notes Sara Fischer at Axios.
Facebook's decision to shift people's homepage feeds away from content shared by those they know portends the end of the social network model, under which "keeping up with your friends' posts served as the hub for everything you might aim to do online," writes Scott Rosenberg at Axios. The move will make Facebook feeds more akin to TikTok—which is supposedly part of the appeal. "Facebook and its rivals call this a 'discovery engine' because it reliably spits out recommendations of posts from everywhere that might hold your attention," writes Rosenberg. "But it also looks a lot like a mutant TV with an infinite number of context-free channels that flash in and out of focus at high speed."
While general trends may be partially to blame, the change is also rooted in government regulations:
That's what younger users right now seem to prefer, and it's where Facebook expects the growth of its business to lie, now that new privacy rules from Apple and regulators' threats around the world have made its existing ad-targeting model precarious. …
As it rolls out its changes — quickly on mobile apps, "later this year" for computer/browser users —Facebook will continue to provide old-school friends-and-family networking via a subsidiary tab. Those posts will be chronologically ordered, as some users have long wished for.
This move also helps Facebook avoid claims of bias in its sorting and keeps the company ahead of regulators who are threatening to restrict its algorithms.
In other words, the threat of regulation by lawmakers intent on taking Facebook down a peg is unlikely to actually harm Facebook. But it does threaten to make the Facebook user experience worse.
QUICK HITS
• A study of Census Bureau data from Harvard University researchers found "that by age 26 more than two-thirds of young adults in the U.S. lived in the same area where they grew up, 80% had moved less than 100 miles (161 kilometers) away and 90% resided less than 500 miles (804 kilometers) away," reports the Associated Press.
• A majority of Americans want to see TikTok out of app stores, according to a recent poll from Trafalgar Group.
• The government versus Little Free Libraries.
• The focus on white versus non-white identity in U.S. politics and social justice spheres fails "to recognize the increasing complexities and contradictions of race and racial categorization at a moment of emergent social change," writes City University of New York sociology professor Richard Alba in Persuasion.
• Trade policy has exacerbated a baby formula shortage that has parents all over the U.S. panicking. But, even in the best of times, trade rules can cause parents headaches, argues Kelli Pierce.
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That peaceful protestor is an insurrectionist. He questions the narrative.
Also, "gas" is not part of the narrative.
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Unless it is Joe's gas.
"But what about the buffalo?"
--Henry Gibson from Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In.
https://twitter.com/JohnRLottJr/status/1551905268728045568?t=gdF8NYaIvu80cnwDChGqGw&s=19
Biden has signed an executive order to use $1 billion to federalize the Zuckerberg type ballot boxes run by the federal government. HUD and other fed agencies will run ballot harvesting operations.
What I don't understand is that if you're going to be a hopeless conspiracy theorist, why not just pick a fun one, like lizard people?
I realize the option of being rational is off the table. Being rational is just what Joe Biden wants you to do.
Rational and Biden? That's pretty hilarious right there.
"Being rational is just what Joe Biden wants you to do."
Tony should get this as a forehead tattoo.
Even Democrats will let him park in handicap spaces and ride the bus for free once they read it.
Has anyone noticed YT is letting voluntarists speak freely? Larken Rose is running amok, it's CHAOS! People are getting "offended".
Will the world survive knowing what's really going on? Ah, don't worry, they'll do what they always do, shut it out.
A study of Census Bureau data from Harvard University researchers found "that by age 26 more than two-thirds of young adults in the U.S. lived in the same area where they grew up...
They were locked down. What else could they do?
And by the same area, they mean in their parents basement.
Joe Friday hardest hit.
No way Joe F has kids or parents.
Spontaneous generation?
NPC.
What do you mean "young adults?" Aren't they still "children" up to age 26 according to federal health insurance regulations?
Depends if we’re talking about health insurance or chopping of penises.
And financial liability, like student loans.
"young adults" is a pedophobe word. Please get with the program you reaking pedophobe.
I just call them "yoots" nowadays, à la My Cousin Vinny.
I'm curious how that compares to other times in history. That seems to me likely to actually be pretty high how many people have moved.
500 miles in particular is almost a uniquely American/Canadian/Mexico/Brazil/Big Country thing. I think in most countries to even move that far you'd have to leave your country.
Yeah, I've seen reaction vids by Brits where they're always flabbergasted at how big the US is, which to be honest, while large, is still comparable to a number of South American countries. I think one said that going across just Texas would be like going from the north of Scotland all the way down to the coast on Kent.
A majority of Americans want to see TikTok out of app stores, according to a recent poll from Trafalgar Group.
Trump was right.
I wish the app stores would ban apps like ArriveCAN for violating user privacy, but they won't. They like to talk about user privacy. In actual practice they don't give a shit.
A majority of Americans want to see TikTok out of app stores...
Where will millennials and zoomers go to dance abortion back into legality?
Where will millennials and zoomers go to dance abortion back into legality?
Man, take this one out of context. This might be the strangest sentence I've read this week.
First thing to say to a wakening 20-year coma patient.
They could still dance on Parler, albeit they would be dancing Wild West style with zinging bullets at their feet.
The focus on white versus non-white identity in U.S. politics and social justice spheres fails "to recognize the increasing complexities and contradictions of race and racial categorization..."
Clear divisional lines are necessary for politicians and social justice warriors to succeed.
And this was after a couple of decades of thought stating that race doesn’t really exist anymore because we’re all mixed breeds anyways.
Now race is essential.
Obama had to keep the race hustlers employed.
You mean his church and pastor?
Trade policy has exacerbated a baby formula shortage that has parents all over the U.S. panicking.
It's out of character but the Great Reset must want you to breastfeed.
Bugs have breasts?
Not out of character in the least. You see, formula lines are a good thing. In other countries people don't line up for formula. The rich get the formula, and the poor starve to death."
Thus Spoke Bernie-thustra.
Maybe they just want fewer babies.
preemptive strike on the Roe overturn.
A Maryland school district comes out with guidance to teachers on withholding medical information and behaviors to parents who may not support their kids transitioning.
https://defendinged.org/incidents/montgomery-county-public-schools-gender-identity-policies-bar-staff-from-revealing-students-gender-transition-to-parents/
So again, teachers acting hidden from parents.
Classic groomer behavior.
Nuh uh.
— Pedo Jeffy
No, at this point, they have moved to, "Ok it's happening, but it is a good thing"
Only homophobes have a problem with this
Even the group gays against grooming is right wing homophobes.
That would be transphobes.
No, it's specifically being called homophobic.
It’s still early. Jeffy can easily repeat the cycle daily.
He blocked me again lol.
Me too. It gives him license to ignore our arguments and pretend he doesn't see the links that contradict his assertions.
It doesn't matter though, because I post to refute him, not convince him. You can't convince a paid shill.
Same.
The school administrators have made it clear that they view parents as adversaries, and that they are no longer working in our (and by extension, our children's) interests.
As a parent of a child soon to be entering school you bet your ass I'm their advisary
Since schools are taking over as the parents for these kids, all issues with these kids should be the schools' responsibility. If the kids assault a teacher, the parent should not have to pay a dime in restitution.
I was thinking along similar lines. Or, maybe, if the kid decides five or ten years down the line that "transitioning" was a mistake, the school, administrators and teachers are on the hook in terms of liability.
Qualified immunity.
This is a false choice though. The opposite of "letting parents micromanage every aspect of the public school curriculum" is not "let the schools be full parents". There are a range of possible options that don't go that far.
Ok groomer.
You ranted for 2 days against a school board voting against a text.
"This is a false choice though."
No THIS is the false choice:
"The opposite of "letting parents micromanage every aspect of the public school curriculum" is not "let the schools be full parents". "
The School is telling teachers not to inform parents about crucial information about their child. That is not the same as "micromanaging every aspect of the public school curriculum".
The School is telling teachers not to inform parents about crucial information about their child.
If you are referring to the LA school district documents, that is not accurate. Those documents never said "don't tell the parents". Instead they said that the totality of the student's situation should be considered in deciding how to tell the parents.
Once again you have to confront the situation of the kid who earnestly says that he thinks he will suffer abuse if he tells the truth to his parents about his sexual identity. The parents should find out, eventually, but in a manner that does not bring harm to the kid.
The parents are not always right. I know you don't want to hear it, but it's true. There are terrific parents as I'm sure you are, but there are also complete asshole parents who do horrible things to their kids.
Schools have no right to make those judgements or decisions. They’re obligated to tell the parents. If they think that causes abuse, they’re obligated to report it. You’re not a libertarian.
GFY
I kind of think that will be the big shift. Some sort of large legal payout will happen and it will shift liability in some major way. I think it will hit doctors first though.
Taking hormone blockers is a horrible health choice. If someone takes these they are setting themselves up for a short life with disabilities.
The government versus Little Free Libraries.
"Tell me libraries, tell me free little libraries..."
Show me on the model where the bad man put that book.
I love Stevie Nicks! - Average free little library user.
more than half—54 percent—said lowering prices should be the priority.
If the idea is that the government shouldn't be artificially inserting itself to make products more expensive, good. If people think the government's job is to set or negotiate the prices companies are allowed to charge, we're doomed.
Q33. When government regulators think about competition in the market, which of the following should they be most concerned with? (RANDOMIZE)
1 Lowering prices for consumers
2 Spurring innovation
3 What happens to competing companies
4 Creating more choices for consumers
5 Other / None of the above
So that's the way the question was asked. Given that framing, that apparently government regulators have to think about competition, I don't know how I'd answer it. I think it's a shit question.
Yeah. It is a terrible framed question yet used by ENB to jam into a narrative.
Winston Smith knows now that the correct answer is 5.
You, sir, win the Internet today.
6. Super bon bon ie move aside and let the men go through
At least one of us caught the Soul Coughing reference.
Since "disband the government regulators" wasn't an option, I'd go with 5, none of the above.
I think we are already doomed. Democratic politicians and far too many people talk about prices, along with wages, profits, taxes, supply, etc., as if these are all disconnected, independent parameters that can (and should) be set by arbitrary official edicts and have no financial or economic relations.
I'd like to think some people might learn something from recent experience.
You got your $15 minimum wage (effectively). How's that working out for ya?
I doubt it. Any public frustration with rising prices seems to lead for calls to mandate higher wages.
Higher wages? Just send everyone more cash to combat inflation.
Hmm...How will California offset the loss of gas taxes after banning internal combustion engines?
GPS mandatory on your electric vehicle so they can bill you for the mileage moved (and track your every movement, but expect that to be downplayed for Democrats)
What if you ride your bike? They'd better just track your phone. Or put the chip directly into your head.
I was only replying to the replacement of gas taxes, not trying to be a good citizen and give the regime new avenues for revenues. I am appropriately ashamed. Your suggestion not only expands the revenues to bikes and other vehicles but it also allows the regime to dip multiple times into the same action (you, your vehicle and any passengers all taxed separately) and it provides granular tracking of all state assets, or citizens if you prefer.
"Or put the chip directly into your head."
Or... connecting some dots... give you multiple injections of something to protect you from a disease that you aren't vulnerable to?
Put a switch disconnecting the GPS in your trunk. Drive into an underground garage, most usefully one downtown, park, turn off the GPS, drive out and go on your trip. Return to the same garage, turn the GPS back on, and leave.
GPS tracked you there and back home.
Congestion pricing. It will cost you $15.00 to park any vehicle in your own driveway, $10 for garages.
You can't park in your driveway if it's a designated homeless campground.
They will bill you based on your historical use of gasoline in the past.
Of course, they will not need to maintain roads or bridges, because you can't recharge an electric vehicle when the grid collapses due to a lack of carbon based fuels.
But in the luddite regression roads will be dirt (asphalt is literally fossil fuel, i.e. tar, and concrete production generates almost as much CO2 as driving) and bridges will be wood (but only from trees that volunteered). Maintenance will take on a whole new meaning, and workforce.
Just like Cuba. Sounds like Heaven.
Will we all get to drive vintage fifties cars?
Only if you convert them to run on methane generated from on-board tanks of wood.
No.
We’ll all have to drive shitty teens and 20’s cars.
"Any color you want as long as it's black."
It all works out because the horses that pull your cart prefer the dirt roads.
I do so love it when the proggies want to save the wild horses. They were literally the most important tool of the colonial oppressors.
But progressives are split on wild horses. The hard core greens want to exterminate them, because they are not natural (despite the fact that almost identical horses lived here before the first human invaders arrived and ate them all). And the PETA types want to protect them.
Can we have them settle their differences in a colosseum ring?.
Two progs enter, no progs leave.
Ackshuyally, horses as we know them today weren't in the Western Hemisphere until the Spaniards brought them.
The predecessors to the modern horse went extinct in the Western Hemisphere about 23 million years ago, long before humans existed, let along migrated to the Western Hemisphere.
No, although early members of the horse lineage in the Eocene have been found across the northern hemisphere, subsequent horse evolution was strictly a North America thing. From Britannica:
Equus—the genus to which all modern equines, including horses, asses, and zebras, belong—evolved from Pliohippus some 4 million to 4.5 million years ago during the Pliocene. Equus shows even greater development of the spring mechanism in the foot and exhibits straighter and longer cheek teeth. This new form was extremely successful and had spread from the plains of North America to South America and to all parts of the Old World by the early Pleistocene (the Pleistocene Epoch lasted from about 2,600,000 to 11,700 years ago). Equus flourished in its North American homeland throughout the Pleistocene but then, about 10,000 to 8,000 years ago, disappeared from North and South America. Scholars have offered various explanations for this disappearance, including the emergence of devastating diseases or the arrival of human populations (which presumably hunted the horse for food).
There's also possible evidence that a true horse survived beyond those years, some as late as shortly before Columbus arrived.
But in the luddite regression roads will be dirt
In CA? For about a week.
If you drive a car, they’ll tax the street
If you try to sit, they’ll tax your seat
If you get too cold they’ll tax the heat
If you take a walk, they’ll tax your feet
Imagine no possessions
They're working on it.
The state with the highest poverty rate and highest population will be fun to watch if they actually ban all ICE's. We'll really get to see the future of the haves and have nots in action.
Facebook announced last week that it will start filling users' home screens with algorithmically popular content from strangers...
The pre-metaverse is too provincial.
I'm having U2 and Apple vibes.
Uno, dos, tres, catorce!
Lol, for some reason I really hated that song.
U2 is the most overrated band ever.
This.
Only 1% of Reason readers think Reason should focus on abortion.
Someone at the FBI was labeling verified material supporting a Hunter criminal investigation as disinformation to remove it from investigations.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/26/fbi-jeopardized-national-security-by-calling-verified-hunter-biden-evidence-disinformation-whistleblowers-say/
Late Monday, Grassley issued a news release citing “multiple FBI whistleblowers, including those in senior positions,” who raised “the alarm about tampering by senior FBI and Justice Department officials in politically sensitive investigations,” including “investigative activity involving derogatory information on Hunter Biden’s financial and foreign business activities.” According to the Iowa Republican, the whistleblowers alleged that Washington Field Office Assistant Special Agent in Charge Timothy “Thibault and other FBI officials sought to falsely portray as disinformation evidence acquired from multiple sources that provided the FBI derogatory information related to Hunter Biden’s financial and foreign business activities, even though some of that information had already been or could be verified.”
What a surprise.....now we have proof of FBI employee ideology driving professional investigative decision-making.
The FBI needs to be drastically reduced; it is corrupt.
These are the cops that need to be defunded.
We had that before. Literally since hover ran it
Now?
Grassley is 89 years and running again. I have to vote against him on principle. Those making his decisions aren't that bad though.
How is this any different from what the Staasi or KGB would do?
It is not. That is why the FBI must be drastically reduced.
Another issue that was banned, because it supposedly contained sexual content, had a photo of a fully-dressed 93-year-old drag queen in the magazine...
I think The Nation knows what gives its readers boners better than prison guards.
You missed the low hanging fruit
"according to the aclu"
The rest is most likely a lie
Since they came around to lockdowns, not sure why they care about the prisoners anymore.
Don't you remember? Wuflu treats prisoners differently from other people. That's why we had to be locked down because of the virus but by the same token prisoners had to be released because of the virus.
And this would make sense if you could get over that white supremacy "logic".
Can prisons really be accused of censorship?
Aren't they just curating a reading list?
Try to get a book on prison escapes or ninja fighting from the prison library. Prisoners can't move freely about the community either.
Hmmm I wonder if they allow the count of Monte cristo
That's probably top on the ban list along with Paul Brickhill's The Great Escape.
Aren't they just curating a reading list?
Do you mean banning books or just exercising their rights as a private corporation?
The rest is most likely a lie
Yeah, between "according to the ACLU" and "a fully-dressed 93-yr.-old drag queen", virtually any combination English words in between is guaranteed to be a misrepresentation.
And yet, ENB is wasting space on the roundup with this article. Sad.
Marxism?
In the Data for Progress survey, people were asked "would you support or oppose a policy breaking up big tech companies by undoing recent mergers, like Facebook buying Instagram, so there is more competition in the future?"
Jesus Christ. It's a compound question, for one. People want competition. But breaking up mergers doesn't guarantee more competition you fuckwits. That's insane framing of the question, about what you'd expect from Data for Progress.
In my experience, Progressives have little need, or patience, for data.
Asking for data is white supremacy, after all.
Tech regulations, in general, are low on people's list of things the government should prioritize.
It's not Congress' fault that people are too dumb to know how dangerous it is when they're exposed to wrongthink.
People could even vote so incorrectly that fortifications will not be enough.
WTF? Racial superiority and men being women should definitely be allowed as a topic of conversation is prisons. What could go wrong?!
As long as they can read Tunneling Monthly and The Big Book of Homemade Explosives.
Shivs for Dummies is an underrated book.
I mean racial superiority is already a topic in prisons
I hear some inmates have developed ethnic knife dances.
Not to mention some men being women. Yikes!
Hey Peanuts remember when Trump was President? Remember how I'd search for info about a particular corporation hitting a rough patch, and use it to prove the entire economy was in the toilet? Well at liberal capitalist school the first lesson you learn is NOT to apply that analysis when there's a Democrat in the White House. So just ignore the news that Walmart shares slump after retailer cuts profit outlook on inflation concerns.
#TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug
Also, inflation is a wingnut.com myth anyway. As long as you're not a spittin' tobaccy addict, the Biden economy is the best ever.
#MoreButtplugInsights
Nobody shops at Walmart because we are all rich now. That’s also why prices are so high, everyone has lots of money .
So, the bums in the derelict RV's and cars camped outside my local Walmart are just overlanding eccentrics cosplaying poor people?
It's a ploy for buttplug to drive down the price before he swoops in and buys WalMart.
Some people aren’t showy about their wealth.
No, they're the FIRE types who retired at 35 and expected to stocks to return 11% every year.
Even if I was like that, I'd still want to do something purposeful, like be a real-life superhero for Libertarian causes.
I watch some of these #vanlife types on YouTube, and with a lot of them, I end up thinking of the conversation in Pulp Fiction where Jules tells Vincent that he's going to quit and "walk from place to place, meet people, get into adventures."
"So you decided to be a bum."
Look, I actually am a 98-99% and I sure as fuck shop at Walmart still. I love Walmart, damn it.
Walmart, come for the low, low prices, and stay for the parade of humanity show.
(Walton family, if you want to use this, I want a modest royalty.)
By the ACLU's operating definition of "White Supremacy" every publication could be barred for Supremacist content.
"Books are racist! The written word is racist!"
Reminder: leftists are literally cancer.
Literally, not figuratively.
From the NCI Cancer Dictionary:
progressive disease: Cancer that is growing, spreading, or getting worse.
James Lindsay brought up that the crt people literally describe themselves as a cancer or a virus like aids
Trade policy has exacerbated a baby formula shortage that has parents all over the U.S. panicking. But, even in the best of times, trade rules can cause parents headaches, argues Kelli Pierce.
Okay, look. This publication LOVES to talk about Baby Formula shortages, it's not a passing interest. You guys are clearly all over this. It's almost an obsession.
So where, exactly, is the deeper dive? When exactly are you going to stop talking about the exact same talking points? It's actually quite interesting: talk about the marketplace. Who is buying formula, where is the money coming from. Look at the history of WIC funding and its relationship with baby formula because those subsidies make up a huge percentage of formula sales in the country. Look at how they've used government force in negotiating lower prices to crush domestic competition. Look at how the regulations on domestic production at the FDA took a wide open market in the 70s down to just 4 domestic producers, most of which utilized one plant in Michigan.
You can't tell me nobody is interested in actually doing this work when you've run so many stories on this topic. Someone has to be interested in going further than "FDA regulations on imports" and "Tariffs." It's interesting and it's very much libertarian. You can Both Sides the fuck out of this issue because the problems go back at least to the early 90s, through multiple Congresses and presidential administrations, plus it's talking about how government insertion into a market kills the free market.
It's insane that I've done about 30 minutes worth of internet research and my comments about this have gone deeper than any of the articles. To be fair, I haven't talked as much about the things Reason has focused on with the specific FDA regulations that are keeping foreign formula from being imported, but they haven't talked about anything BUT that. There's a lot more to be said.
And beyond the marketplace, an objective reporter could investigate the social and health impacts of WIC programs that clearly steer parents into formula use, and into government dependency for sustaining a baby.
Everything you just wrote coincides exactly with my experience. My first kid was born in 1995 and we paid $6-8 for formula. When my second kid was born in 1997, we were paying $12-18 for the same formula, which we always bought extra because it occasionally went out of stock.
Whatever the causes, the latest talking point is that quick and forceful action by Joe Biden has solved the problem and all the grateful mothers need to vote Democratic. Oh, also, he's jawboned the greedy oil companies into lowering gas prices by $.40/gallon and you need to remember that at the polls in November. He hasn't single-handedly staved off recession yet (but is in the process of redefining what a recession is) or won the war in Ukraine but give him time since the U.S. under Biden is respected again and Putin will be shaking in his boots once the Chinese buy up all the U.S. oil reserves instead of buying from Russia.
Baby formula shortage is still very real, and at any store that does happen to have some in stock, the price has jumped almost 100% since the beginning of the year. Small cans are like $25-$30, and the big containers are close to $50. Used to be $12-$15 and $25-$30, respectively.
But only 3%. Above inflation
Those are cans of spittin tobaccy
That takes work. Outside of Nancy rommelman, and robby on the covington catholic story reason hasn't put that amount of effort into anything like that since Virginia postrel left
Not only work, true investigation and reporting from a libertarian perspective might put Reason staff at risk of offending their coastal peers (and current or future employers).
They put out a story on this daily. Cut back on that, have someone actually get into the history of government involvement in the market. They can take 2-3 days to work on it and have the definitive libertarian take on revamping the baby formula industry. Even if it's not perfect after three days, it's almost guaranteed to be more interesting than rehashing identical talking points.
Reason is not a journalistic publication, it’s an advocate for certain topics and policies. Tariffs is one of them.
And if they can figure out a way to insert immigration into it they will.
It's sad that taking obl seriously is the most reasony writer
And look, I'm a big fan of free trade. Tariffs are not my preferred method of taxation, though I concede that taxes are a necessary evil. I'd prefer removing barriers for obtaining things, but it's got to start with domestic de-regulation. There's no reason to force domestic producers to adhere to certain requirements but then to ease those requirements for imports, that's just encouraging outsourcing production.
So the conversation really needs to start with deregulation on the domestic side to allow a healthy market, and then you can bring foreign standards in line with that. And then, if foreign companies can still outcompete domestic producers, they're just winning on the free market, with healthy competition. It's just telling that shutting down a single plant crippled the entire country's production of a fairly common food item-that's not a healthy marketplace.
^+10000000000000000000
Once the dust settles on the whole baby formula saga, it would be nice to see a deeper dive article on the issue. I would hope that they are planning an article like this for an upcoming print issue.
Maybe get Britschgi on it.
Sounds good.
Why does there need to be a delay when this information is already known and talked about in the comments. Readers have already given them their sources.
What a silly precept.
It's entirely possible someone is working on an article for the print magazine. This website we are all hanging out on is just an informal blog where the staff mostly post informal posts about current topics of interest.
But you would make an awesome backseat chief editor.
Stfu Dee.
'Corene Kendrick, deputy director of the ACLU's National Prison Project, said "the ban on these issues of The Nation is yet another example of prisons routinely restricting materials that incarcerated people can access, by way of unconstitutional, arbitrary rules."'
Isn't the point of prison to deprive people of rights?
Not so much rights, but certainly magazines.
Criminals deprive others of rights, so therefore their rights get abridged.
It makes total sense to everyone who has a grooved brain.
"Overcrowding, violence, sexual abuse, and other conditions pose grave risks to prisoner health and safety." - The ACLU
"The real problem is some of these prisoners missed their monthly subscription to Grandpas In Drag Quarterly." - Also The ACLU
It should certainly deprive them of Marxist propaganda.
If they are thieves, con-artists, kidnappers, rapists, and murderers, then they are practicing Marxists, Fascists, Nazis, and all other flavors of Socialism and Collectivism, whether they know the ideology or not.
And if they are just self-defenders, drug dealers, prostitutes, tax evaders, and unauthorized deck-builders, then they are Free-Market Capitalist Libertarians, again, regardless of knowledge of ideology....And, of course, they don't belong in prison.
" Facebook announced last week that it will start filling users' home screens with algorithmically popular content from strangers, instead of focusing on content from friends and the pages that a user follows."
See, Facebook, like government, knows better for you. In the next stage, the algorithms will steer you away from "bad" friendships and into "good" ones.
I think Facebook is sinking itself. The reason people would use Facebook instead of Twitter or Tik-Tok is because it works differently, and if they want other stuff, they go elsewhere for it. Now Facebook is just trying to play catch-up at doing the things other companies are doing, years behind.
But maybe I'm wrong and the pervasiveness of Facebook will give it an edge in catching up to what other social media is doing.
Yea, this seems like a bad idea. Engagement will really go down, and people will spend less time on there when they aren't seeing content from the people they know. At least the Russian memes won't get Trump reelected because way less people will see them this time.
Seems like Facebook might be shifting itself to an Instagram model. Maybe they're gonna merge the two in some way. I have no idea. I hate all these things so fucking much.
I'm on fakebook strictly for friends and family and my hobby groups. if they start filling my page with useless stuff beyond the unrelated stuff they post now then i will have to give it up. we already have to scroll thru to many adds and suggestions to see what I'm interested in
It's not propaganda or brainwashing if it's democratic.
So ENB writes about big tech, and avoids discussing the economic misery of the American people, caused by the progressive policies of our dementia-addlepated POTUS.
She traded integrity for...whatever.
Wow you lost me at the last line.
ENB never had integrity
Well, at least she properly assigned blame to the Democrats for trying to break up Big Tech. I keep expecting "Republicans pounced", but it never happened. Small kudos for ENB.
"This move also helps Facebook avoid claims of bias in its sorting and keeps the company ahead of regulators who are threatening to restrict its algorithms."
How, precisely, does this move keep them "ahead of regulators"? If the problem was their algorithm with content from people you know, it is not going to change when it involves people you do not.
It’s a shift from keeping connections with friends to stalking strangers.
How old are the strangers we’re talking about?
— Jeffy
There's nothing wrong with adult men and children being close friends.
HAHAHAHA!
It's funny because it is completely believable that jeffy would say that. Considering he thinks that it is fine for schools not to tell parents that their kids want to cut their junk off if the parents might think that is a problem.
Yikes! Jeff. You're going to have to expand on this one. Grown men and children? Are these randos? Kids of your friends? 'Close' friends is a weird descriptor and definitely a boundary trespass.
And it has nothing to do with your being a gay man.
do you like ... gladiator movies?
That is a sock, that is not me.
Obviously sexual relations between adults and minors is a no-no.
The trolls around here are upset that I correctly call them out on their "groomer" nonsense. It is nothing more than a vile slur designed to problematize and taboo-ify any discussion at all about "sexual orientation or gender identity" to kids, even age-appropriate discussion, even discussion that has nothing to do with "graphic sex talk".
Somehow, telling kids that "sometimes two men or two women can fall in love" is GROOMING and part of some agenda to turn kids gay. It is homophobic and absurd.
Nobody said that.
Nardz said it.
https://reason.com/2022/07/18/republicans-seek-child-support-payments-for-fetuses/?comments=true#comment-9605099
Stop talking to 6 year old children about love and sex, you fucking stalinist pedophile
I mean, can anyone really doubt chemjeff's lust for children when it so strenuously advocates teachers talking to prepubescent children about erotic coupling?
erotic coupling
no sane person is advocating for talking to 6 year olds about "erotic coupling"
Hey look, chemjeff Stalinist pedophile is lying again.
"If a teacher says "sometimes two men or two women can fall in love and that's okay","
Do you understand that love and sex are not the same thing?
Nobody believes you Lying Jeffy.
Apologies. He got me.
I have to invoke Poe's law of forgiveness.
It is okay. The trolls really are a problem around here.
Trolls are one thing.
Lying pedophiles are much, much worse.
Now, now, jeffy would never actually abuse a child himself. I imagine he is more like a fat version of the child-catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehcJeNbFBw
Who do you think you're tricking with these comments jeff?
"The trolls really are a problem around here." - Lying Jeffy, a troll
Did you just say that with a straight face?
You still don't even know what grooming is. And you continue to defend its practice.
they see Jeff Groomin'...they hatin'
Smell his finger it’s probably dirty.
LOL
jeffy:Why does everybody call me a groomer?
Everybody: "something related to apologizing for teachers secretly talking to Kindergarteners about sex"
Jeff: "how is that even grooming?!"
Trying to hide curriculum from parents is one thing. I don't approve of that and never have. Teachers and schools should be open with parents about what they are teaching.
But, the term "grooming" is used not just in that context. It is used in the context of teaching LGBTQ tolerance even if there is no deception. It is used in the context of encouraging kids to sign up for a Rainbow Club at school even if there is no coercion and it is completely voluntary. That is not "grooming". That has no connection to child sexual abuse.
Shorter jeff.
"I refuse all information that negates my belief and will only talk about perfectly curated conditions for any topic that support my views."
If you do what the regulators want they won't tell you what to do!
Perhaps the idea is, if you are interacting with people you don't know, you will learn a little bit about their point of view, and won't be so quick to repost that partisan disinformation meme, thereby cutting down on the amount that Facebook contributes to degrading the state of our political discourse today.
No matter the tropic, Jeff can always find a way to squeeze in a prog homily.
Notice that it's not about what the consumer wants but what top men think is good for you.
If people got all their information from only jeff approved sources we would have no disagreements.
Lol. As jeff the last few days has declared everyone who disagrees with him team red. And refuses to read information posted by those he considers team red. Denying the existence of information or the arguments made by his opponents.
Should I post Haidt again?
It really is funny. I argue with Jeff a lot and personally think Bush 2 was maybe the worst and most destructive president in a long time, and honestly I really dislike most of what Donald Trump is.
But I can separate out my feels about Trump being a dumb blowhard narcissist from his policies being more in line with my libertarian principles than most. Importantly, his policies are 1000x more libertarian than anyone on the modern left. The left has gone so insane that they recently are putting even Andrew Yang in the 'Alt-right' category because he wont bow to full on left wing orthodoxy. Andrew, "UBI" Yang, isnt left wing enough for them...
These people really cant see that they have been swept up in a cult.
Do you think Trump poses more danger to the Republic than simply being a dumb blowhard narcissist? Do you think that there are simply some people who are so odious that it doesn't matter what their policies are, those people should never be in charge of the levers of power?
"Do you think that there are simply some people who are so odious that it doesn't matter what their policies are, those people should never be in charge of the levers of power?"
Sure, they are called "Clintons"
You fucking nailed it. After your reassurance, I'm going to see if ButtPlug will sell me some of his FB call options. The stock price is about to be heading to the moon.
We could all stand to learn more from each other. Tolerance and pluralism are concepts that are in declining favor now it seems and that ought to change.
Kind of like your tolerance for Trump and Team Red? I like how you casually fart out these judgmental platitudes when you’re one the biggest offenders on this site. Why don’t you remove the fucking beam from your fat stupid eye before you lecture others you cunt.
This guy gets it.
You're right to a degree, I'm not perfect, I'm a human being who could stand to be more tolerant as well. Perhaps we could both stand to learn a little bit of tolerance and mutual respect?
You’re a lying hypocrite.
My experience on the FB has been the opposite. People who don't know each other tend to be quicker to rail against an unshared opinion rather than open to discourse.
I'm smart enough not to engage at all. It's a waste of typing energy. FB was a place to connect with old friends and family. If that ends I doubt I'll stick around. Already having weird reloads of the content when I am on for more than a few minutes.
I'm not saying that people will instantly change their minds if they are exposed to a different point of view. This process takes time.
I can only speak to my experience - I used to be pretty strongly pro-death-penalty. I would repeat the standard arguments in favor of it - the murderers in society deserve to die, life in prison is too expensive, etc. But only after reading and examining the anti-death-penalty views of others I realized that (a) the rationale for my own pro-death-penalty opinion was fundamentally unexamined, and (b) the pro-death-penalty position is fundamentally inconsistent with my libertarian nature. So I changed. The process took years and many hours of reading and reflection. But if I had never been exposed to the arguments opposed to the death penalty in the first place, I would have had no reason to examine my own assumptions.
And then he stopped learning any counter arguments since so he wouldnt realize his apriori assumptions were wrong ever again. And it was happily ever after.
I find this post even more amusing as it assumes that whatever his current position is is the correct one still. He was wrong and now he is right.
Nah. I could never interact with another liberal and I would still know exactly how they think.
Would you? What is to be gained by always preaching to the choir?
Yes, because leftists are religious in nature. They cannot help themselves. As for what is to be gained; unlike you, I don't not require diversity in anything to be happy in life. And more Americans are figuring that out.
Yes, because leftists are religious in nature. They cannot help themselves
1. Liberals are not the same as leftists. Glenn Greenwald calls himself a liberal. I doubt you'd consider him a leftist though.
2. That you think they are "religious in nature" shows that you don't really understand them. Because you think their positions are faith-based rather than having a rational basis.
unlike you, I don't not require diversity in anything to be happy in life.
Sure, you can be perfectly happy if you never leave your bubble. Your life is not nearly as rich as it could be, though.
And more Americans are figuring that out.
Do you want a xenophobic America?
They are faith based. Every single time they tried to implement socialism, it has failed. The same with communism and the same with Marxism. How many more times must we watch them try before you get it?
Do you want a xenophobic America?
I wouldn't blink if it became so.
"Leftism" and socialism and communism and Marxism are not all the same thing. And they are all different than mainstream left-wing policy in places like Europe, such as social democracy.
Lol. Jeff defends the exact argument made by relying on changing definitions to hide it.
So what does modern American leftism mean that does not involve bigger, more intrusive government in order to achieve social and economic goals, bent towards communalism, and promoting methods of wealth redistribution?
But the term 'communism' has a specific meaning. It is not just "people cooperating". Communism is the collective ownership of the means of production. Socialism too also has a specific meaning. It is not just "whatever government does". Socialism is the state ownership of the means of production. Very few people in the modern American left are advocating for communism or for socialism, with the one possible exception of health care. A lot of them do want state ownership of the means of health care delivery. But even then it is not unanimous. Some want a pure British NHS-type system, but then there are others who want more of a German-type system.
So to claim that one does not need to listen to left-wing arguments because "we already know socialism is a failure" is really just proof that one needs to listen to left-wing arguments to understand what they really are. Very very few of them involve actually advocating for socialism.
I'm not really clear on that one. With the regulatory discussions of tech in general things are confusing because no one really seems to know how to talk about the subject. I think that's why threats of Anti-Trust is so big, because that's a hammer folks understand.
People really, really don't understand tech.
https://twitter.com/toad_spotted/status/1551627470092238850?t=CYYj1bK_YHkWL0rf4ZTwYw&s=19
Twitter force-trending "She is a Nazi" about Marjorie Taylor Green a few days after she said gender transitions were mutilations and child abuse tells you something about the value set guiding social media now.
Twitter also thinks all homosexuals are really pedo groomers, so you know where they stand on issues.
You know who else mutilated children and called it science?
Frankenstein?
The democrats?
Planned parenthood?
Phizer?
Moderna?
Chemjeff.
Kermit Gosnell.
Holy fuck! I had to look that up, I had no idea about Gosnell. Amazing job by the MSM in suppressing the story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
special place in hell waiting for that fucking guy.
He isnt even unique.
https://texasrighttolife.com/abortionists-like-robert-rho-and-kermit-gosnell-are-not-outliers/
Media also tried to censor the movie about gosnell.
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/october/we-had-npr-refusing-to-run-our-ads-movie-about-abortionist-kermit-gosnell-facing-backlash-censorship
Yeah. That was surprising to me. I would have thought the media's craven drive towards sensationalism would have won out in the Gosnell case.
That German guy?
Einstein?
https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1551635166296145920?t=ub6SPQ4whaB_lUuVN9UsRg&s=19
When it’s them vs. when it’s you.
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Let's all take a moment to celibate a roundup without a mention of abortion and hookers
Or*
Will ENB get punished for not meeting the quota?
I think not getting to mention abortion and hookers was already her punishment.
Very clever. Now if only we could get a certain population to celibate information about monkeypox.
>>celibate
Freud?
Hey, celibacy is white patriarchal oppression! Oh, wait...
I've been watching reruns of the A&E series on Playboy and Hugh Hefner recently. A common thread that seems to run through the entire series, even if it's not directly acknowledged, is how the "sexual revolution" was little more than a cover for predators to exploit women, under the guise of glamour and "liberation," and how this exploitation was tacitly supported and enabled because the left assumed their were owning the "prudes" and "attacking the system" by encouraging the sexual deviancy which led to this kind of abuse.
It's notable that Hefner in particular had an obsession with Hollywood and was constantly chasing celebrity validation by acting as a pimp for them, only the payment was them mainstreaming his publication and his lifestyle by hanging out at the mansion all the time. Considering all the pedophilia and sexual abuse that goes on in Hollywood, perhaps he saw in that industry a kindred spirit.
Too bad that it usually ends up being their own that get owned? The left and Hollywood aren't nearly as influential as they believe themselves to be. They convince their own to liberate, but the "prudes" aren't ever going to take advice from Hollywood.
Hefner was practically celibet by today's Hollywood standards.
Patrice O'Neal gave a great interview about it.
At least we can all relax now that epstien was killed and his client list is lost, that means all of the clients stopped being predators
Celebrate by celibacy?
https://tomluongo.me/2022/07/25/none-dare-call-it-a-recession-lest-the-democrats-lose-the-mid-terms/
I’m not disputing the idea that there’s not economic dislocation on the horizon. There is. It’s epicenter will be Europe, not the US. That will insulate us and the Fed from the worst of the fallout. Davos‘ only play now is to create as much chaos as possible to take down anyone who stands in their path before the Democrats get blown away in that hurricane I talked about.
The Democrats are happy to burn the country to the ground, since they are now officially traitors to the country after 18 months of pure, unadulterated economic and cultural vandalism. They keep telling us it’s all for the greater good… theirs, not yours. And while you are mostly still free to complain about it privately…
Whatever you do, just don’t call it a recession.
Words like "recession" and "hyperinflation" have meanings.
Leftists redefine words to suit them, while conservatives are supposed to be above that shit.
Supposed to be.
Maybe not "hyper" by Weimar standards, but the inflation rate is far higher than 9.1% right now, using the original 70's and 80's metrics instead of the current ones, and 9.1% is still the highest in forty years. Also, the US is undoubtedly in recession.
So, don't use the word "hyper" just use high inflation. Hyperinflation really does have a meaning, it still happens today in the world. We're not near that.
Just like this bullshit redefinition of "recession" that's being attempted is frustrating, so is this tendency to reach for the most extreme term to describe something. It's used to win arguments, but it's not actually helpful for improving the situation at hand.
Hyperinflation is extremely rapid or out of control inflation. There is no precise numerical indication of hyperinflation.
Going by 80's metrics inflation may already be out of control. Hyperinflation here sounds like hyperbole, but it isn't necessarily. Never in human history has so much money been created and dumped into circulation. Half of all money ever was created in the last two years.
Recession is defined as two consecutive quarters with negative growth. GDP is increasing last I checked. It's on life support, but still positive.
Hyperinflation is defined as 50% inflation per month. We're not there. Yet.
If I was using those words it would be hyperbole. But I don't think that's the case with you righty-tighty-whiteys. I think you mean it.
Which means you're mental.
When did you last check your gdp knowledge?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/04/28/gdp-2022-q1-economy/
Also amusing is your "sarcasm when I do it, mental when you do it" lol.
He wouldn't be sarcasmic if he were honest.
Lol. You turned a criticism of the left into an attack on the right. Amazing.
It’s what he does.
If you call being disappointed an attack, then yes. I'm very much attacking the right for stooping to the lows you expect from the left.
No. You've attacked them over virtually anything since your boy biden became a disaster. Most often in threads of even mild criticism of democrats. Stop lying.
“Stop lying.”
It’s what he does.
Jeebus. The WH and their acolytes are redefining as of last Friday. And, as usual, you lap up what your masters put in front of you
Compound that with Prime Minister Zoolander's announcement that
he is going to impose the Dutch government's drastic ‘Climate Change’ restrictions on Canadian farmers.
https://torontosun.com/news/national/trudeau-pushes-ahead-on-fertilizer-reduction-as-provinces-and-farmers-cry-foul
For those of you that are unaware, the Canadian prairies also export more wheat than Ukraine did.
I thought your only exports were science fiction, music, poutine and lumber.
And Celine Dion.
You can have Jim Carey back now.
Nickleback barf...
Don't forget Tim Horton's and Doner.
But the farmers are those icky types that support the truckers and food can always be imported from elsewhere.
Why import food? The supermarket is full of that stuff.
The globe currently has too many people to make the Great Reset feasible. Covid didn't kill enough of them. Gotta starve some, have a some freeze to death during a fuel-less winter, and then maybe another pandemic next spring.
Export? Not for long...
It is true that the NBER isn’t supposed to mechanistically plug GDP numbers into a formula and declare a recession. Mostly, though, that’s to prevent failing to call a recession, so you don’t get a situation where the economy shrinks dramatically in one quarter and then does a dead-cat bounce the next to eke out, say, a 0.1% gain. That clearly isn’t the case here. You’ve got AT&T reporting customers can’t pay their phone bills and Wally World slashing sales projections. This clearly isn’t just a glitch in the data. The Biden administration is plainly trying to put pressure on the Dating Committee to ignore the data and avoid declaring the obvious so a friendly media won’t have to acknowledge the issue. Unfortunately, the NBER has a history of somewhat suspect decisions on this front, and I’m not sure they’ll resist the challenge to their integrity. I would not be surprised to see them say a recession started in Q1. They’ll just say so in late November or December, after the midterms. In the meantime, anyone saying that we're in a recession on social media will be targeted as a hoarding, wrecker, kulak spreading dangerous misinformation.
You know, I always thought 1984 would be scary. I just never knew it would be this retarded.
Unfortunately, the NBER has a history of somewhat suspect decisions on this front, and I’m not sure they’ll resist the challenge to their integrity. I would not be surprised to see them say a recession started in Q1. They’ll just say so in late November or December, after the midterms.
Isn't this basically what happened in 2007-2008 during the Bush administration? The data was soft-pedaled for months until the obvious "oh, by the way, we've been in a recession for a while" couldn't be hand-waved away anymore.
"It's not a recession unless it's from the Recession region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling misery." - t. chemjeff
Did... did you also listen to 3 Martini Lunch or is this comparison to Wayne's World going around?
It's going around. I've seen it on Twitter several times today, but it seemed very chemjeffy.
Yeah yeah whatever. Both teams do this sort of crap. Because they know that any president is judged, fairly or not, most harshly on the state of the economy. So the out-of-power tribe will try to catastrophize the economy as much as they can, and the in-power tribe will try to gloss over the weak parts of the economy as much as they can. Buttplug pulls this same stunt when he comes here and says "Trump presided over the worst economy ever!!!!" when that really just refers to the COVID lockdowns which were largely out of his control. During the Obama years, Team Red would routinely try to point out that the very slow recovery after the Great Recession was due to some Obama policy, and not, say, just the natural workings and sortings of the economy after any recession. It is all just tribal noise that ought to be ignored.
Jeff's always "both sides" when evidence against Democrats is irrefutable.
He is also economically illiterate as he doesn't believe a massive regulatory state has economic effects.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynecrews/2016/12/30/obamas-legacy-2016-ends-with-a-record-shattering-regulatory-rulebook/
Oh look, more gray boxes from the trolls.
Sure Jeff, we know you're peeping.
Just like he does at his local elementary school.
Advertise the ignorance - jeff.
https://twitter.com/cypheralgos/status/1551905908850032640?t=52G1248QlDTpdZVMH38owA&s=19
what the
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No need to go anywhere.
Sorta like living in jail.
If it allows free egress, that is the main feature for any Libertarian to want. Hey, I may want to take an air-car out and hike the Appalachian Trail or see The Burning Man, then come back to Spaceley Sprockets.
The funny thing is that they actually think that those human chicken--farms are appealing to people.
This looks familiar, a 5 mile long wall with 9 million people? Can't think of it... Oh wait... There it is
"The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace.
A self-contained world five miles long, located in neutral territory. A place of commerce and diplomacy for a quarter of a million humans and aliens. A shining beacon in space . . . all alone in the night.
It was the dawn of the Third Age of Mankind – the year the Great War came upon us all."
Yeah, aren't there a whole bunch of scifi books and movies with something like this? Usually, it's the clean, shiny city full of clean, shiny people inside, and a whole bunch of "uncleans" outside.
Depends on the book. Oftentimes, the hyper-dense urban enclave is a dystopian setting.
Eloi and Morlocks.
Mega City 1.
Oath of Fealty
Elysium, though that was more of a satellite the poors weren't allowed on.
If you looked back at the last 10,000 yrs. of radiocentric city "planning" and said, "I can come up with a way, way stupider idea." I'd be hard pressed to imagine something different than this. I mean, I'm no Freeman Dyson or Larry Niven, but even I can appreciate the need to close a loop to save... time, resources, energy, and complexity.
https://internationalman.com/articles/david-stockman-on-the-all-out-commitment-to-destroy-fossil-fuels-will-it-succeed/
Investment in all phases of the fossil energy industry has swooned sharply in recent years, owing to both government regulatory and tax subsidy interventions and also due to the takeover of the Wall Street energy narrative by the ESG (environmental, social and governance) nonsense.
https://summit.news/2022/07/25/former-olympian-swimmer-says-trans-hate-mob-has-made-my-life-hell/
Former Olympian swimmer Sharon Davies has revealed that she is struggling to keep her career as a pundit and a sports ambassador going because she has been relentlessly attacked by trans ‘activists’ for speaking up for women’s rights in sports.
If she wanted job security she should have been a woman with a penis
start her own Punditry & Sports Ambassadorship company.
Having trouble doing your business while standing up sounds like a distinctly female problem to me.
Not in official 2022
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/07/cia_director_very_proud_of_afghanistan_analysis_the_led_to_the_disastrous_withdrawal.html
Same article, headline visible
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/cia-director-very-proud-afghanistan-analysis-led-disastrous-withdrawal
If the CIA paid attention to the reason commenter they would have seen it comming
"That's what younger users right now seem to prefer, and it's where Facebook expects the growth of its business to lie"
With CIA financing, the early Facebook already did the college kid route and it didn't pay off until they expanded out, and look at what happened to MySpace, etc.
Facebook's core constituency is middle age and elderly women keeping up with their social circles, friends, kids and grandkids; and it sounds like they're going to throw that away.
That's what I thought as well. But Facebook's expansion into foreign markets is probably a bigger part of its business model now than US users, so perhaps the foreign markets are using it differently.
What about fortifying elections?
Already started in my new Blue State home. Mailed me a mail in ballot request for the upcoming election. Referenced the changes made in voting for 2020. Let the fortification begin.
"A majority of Americans want to see TikTok out of app stores, according to a recent poll from Trafalgar Group."
So don't download the app.
Problem solved.
Get woke! (or right with the lord, or onboard with whatever program)
People do not have the capacity for independent agency.
OTOH, the fewer shits you give about the denizens of your walled garden the more it becomes either a mausoleum, cenotaph, concentration camp, or combination of the three.
I think more parents probably just need to start taking their kid's phones away.
Yup.
There is a market out there for phones or tech devices in general that are somewhere between the fully adult unlocked version, and the fully baby-fied version that you might give to a 7-year-old for emergency use only. Let the tweeners have some access to some Internet but not the full adult access to everything.
Yeah Jeff, gender affirming for a 7 year old really does need to be done face to face by a government employee.
Gotta watch out for what they’re seeing on their phones, though!
>> The focus on white versus non-white identity ... fails "to recognize ... at a moment of emergent social change," writes CUNY professor Richard Alba in Persuasion.
holy fuck we did it wrong.
Facebook announced last week that it will start filling users' home screens with algorithmically popular content from strangers...
Yeah, funny how all that content is telling me just how wonderful the Biden regime is and how anyone questioning progressive dogma is a racist, homophobic ignoramus who is in desperate need of re-education. But, I'm sure that was purely a random result of totally unbiased algorithms just totally providing me with content I'd appreciate.
Imagine for a moment that when you opened an article link at Reason.com, you were instead whisked away to a piece from The American Conservative or Commentary. This is only a step or two removed.
You have to admit that most Democrats have gotten pretty strange. (So kudos to Facebook for some level of honesty)
Yeah, funny how all that content is telling me just how wonderful the Biden regime is
Is that what is actually happening to your Facebook feed, or is this a contrived hypothetical example?
He clearly says it's actually on his Facebook feed, but look at you insinuate otherwise.
What a weasel you are, Jeffy.
the uncontrived hypotheticals will get you if you don't pay attention.
Begone, chemjeff stalinist pedophile
Ah, if only Reason articles had the level of erudition of Commentary. I'd be able to be angry about the arguments being made rather than confused about the fuck they're actually trying to say.
Imposing privacy and security requirements on companies is a classic form of regulatory capture and barriers to entry. This is how we’re end up with a free all powerful monopolies.
Such regulations also simply end up exempting companies from liability.
How about we let users sue tech companies for damages. E.g. accidental disclosure of private information resulting in 16h of work for each user protecting and securing their various accounts = $3200 damages per user.
Extend that to AGs that release conceal carry info
3200 bucks? How about 3 million per user? 16 hours of work won't take your information off the dark web -- it's compromised forever.
Can individual users now not sue a company for a data breach?
But as far as regulations go, ones that try to impose minimal safe conditions are IMO one of the least objectionable ones.
"Tech regulation should focus on privacy and security...."
Or, I don't know, leave tech companies unregulated, and let investors and customers determine what happens to them?
And if they violate anyone's rights, let the courts determine the penalties?
You can't pull the "let investors decide" card anymore, vanguard and black Rock have a political agenda in who they give the fed money to
measures to protect children online (11 percent), combating misinformation online (11 percent),
And these, of course, have nothing to do with the ministry of truth.
Facebook announced last week that it will start filling users' home screens with algorithmically popular content from strangers, instead of focusing on content from friends and the pages that a user follows.
Strangers like CNN, NBC, Washington Post, HuffPo, MSNBC, The New York Times etc.
While general trends may be partially to blame, the change is also rooted in government regulations:
Government regulations that Facebook has undoubtedly asked for.
They didn't spend half a billion + to fortify the election for nothing
A study of Census Bureau data from Harvard University researchers found "that by age 26 more than two-thirds of young adults in the U.S. lived in the same area where they grew up, 80% had moved less than 100 miles (161 kilometers) away and 90% resided less than 500 miles (804 kilometers) away," reports the Associated Press.
This is a little sad IMO. I would encourage young adults to go see different places before settling down and establishing roots. When you see different places - and not just as a tourist, but for an extended period of time - you get to understand that the people in these different places really aren't all that different from yourself. You learn that the Blue State coastal people, by and large, really aren't a bunch of crazy whackadoodle leftists, and you learn that the Red State heartland people, by and large, really aren't a bunch of Bible-thumping rednecks. They're just people with their own goals and their own aspirations that aren't much different than your own. I've lived in 5 different states, two blue states, two red states, and one purplish state, and it has helped inform me of my views for sure.
They do see different places through their tik tok feed.
Not really. And that is the problem. Lots of people need to travel more and see more of the world *in person*, let alone their own country. And not just as a tourist.
The jokes don't come with a roadmap.
Besides being dishonest, Lying Jeffy’s also plenty stupid.
Why?
Who cares if they insulate themselves ina bubble?
It broadens one's perspective. It can cut down on the rancor and the ignorant opinions about people you've never met. Overall in my view it leads to a healthier society and a healthier discourse.
I don't want to force anyone to travel, but I would encourage them to.
The longest lived and the highest trust societies are the most insular and the most xenophobic.
The facts do not support your point of view.
They never do.
Look at Japan right now. They are insular and somewhat xenophobic. They are also completely stuck in a rut.
Have you been to Japan?
"Invasive species are just a figment of the collective imagination." - Jeff
I said nothing about invasive species. WTF are you talking about?
Is this where you try to interpret everything I say in the worst possible light? "Travel and see the world" becomes "He wants to spread invasive weeds everywhere!" Is that it?
Is this where you try to interpret everything I say in the worst possible light?
"Wah! Bad faith interpretations are only OK when I do it! Pointing out the obvious and foreseeable negative outcomes of my unbridled optimism is a non-sequitur!" - Jeff
And when, as I occasionally do, make a bad-faith interpretation of someone's statement, there are plenty of people willing to pile on me to point it out.
So you completely invented a bad-faith interpretation of my statement for what purpose then?
Expose your naïveté?
It's not naivete, it's characteristic and consistent dishonesty
Occasionally?
What's the area you ranged over though? I'm confused about this, because 500 miles is a big range. For instance, if you were born near Washington DC, a 500 mile distance from DC includes:
Ottawa
Toronto
NYC
Philadelphia
Nashville
Boston
Detroit
Indianapolis
If you were born in mainland Europe, 500 miles includes even more major cities and likely many capitals of foreign nations.
Beyond that, this is and has always been true, and I'm guessing these numbers are actually lower than they've ever been in history. I think there's a presupposition here that's probably not as meaningful as people say.
All the way from California to Pennsylvania. So a pretty big range. I agree that those percentage figures are probably lower now than they were in the past, but they are still too high IMO.
And I'm saying I don't know if that's a meaningful thing.
If you were born in Paris and then lived in Zurich it's probably a bigger cultural difference than being born in Boston and then living in LA. And even then, I'm not sure either of those things would necessarily increase your understanding of things.
There's a bias here that living in different places makes you less parochial, and that assumes facts not in play. I've definitely met folks who jet from city to city across the US and the world who are extremely short in their understanding of things because they only visit big cities and interact with a specific group of people. I actually don't think there's a whole lot of meaning to derive from the stats either way.
Jeff forgets people are individuals, and the same experiences might affect others differently or not at all.
There's a bias here that living in different places makes you less parochial, and that assumes facts not in play.
Yeah, if you lived in Seattle and then moved to Austin, Texas, you're not really expanding your social intelligence all that much.
Plus, if you’re a giant douche like Lying Jeffy, the types of people you need to meet in different places to broaden your horizons are going to shun you so it’s a pointless exercise regardless.
To continue the metaphor, we need bifocals: a race-based lens to help us see the disparities that still exist in American society, and an assimilation lens to help us see the ways in which racial boundaries are weakening. The combination can give us ideas about how white and non-white Americans can come together to continue to expand and diversify the mainstream.
The soft spoken, good-cop of Critical Race Theory.
a race-based lens to help us see the disparities that still exist in American society
Is it "critical race theory" to simply collect statistical data?
"I don't understand good-cop/bad-cop police work or Mott-and-Bailey. Unless you try and do it to me, and then I'll act like I understand and try to call you out on it." - Jeff
Oh I understand motte-and-bailey quite well. Team Red is trying it with the whole GROOMER nonsense.
I also understand trying to associate every concept that one doesn't like with the most extreme version of that concept.
Under no reasonable definition would simple statistical data collection be considered "critical race theory".
But I understand that if one truly wanted to get rid of that practice, one would be strongly motivated to try to associate it with "critical race theory" because it would improve one's chances of success.
I personally don't see anything wrong with simply collecting statistical data. How that data is interpreted is an entirely different question.
Oh I understand motte-and-bailey quite well.
The first sentence of my post was a summation. The second half was an extrapolation. Thanks for validating the predictive power of the model.
I see. So this is where you play semantic games to try to catch people in a Catch-22.
Are you ever going to get around to explaining why simply collecting statistical data constitutes "critical race theory", if that is the position that you hold?
There's no semantic game being played here, Jeff. There's also not a Catch-22.
There's no semantic game being played here, Jeff. There's also not a Catch-22.
I had a more verbose answer but there's elegance in simplicity.
brevity soul wit.
Then I don't understand what is going on.
Typical.
Then I don't understand what is going on.
This is the truest thing you’ve said in a long time.
Saved.
maybe the first honest statement from you I have seen
Oof. That was brutal. And quite enjoyable!
a race-based lens
simply collect statistical data?
These two are incompatible.
It makes some white dudes uncomfortable to talk about race at all, which makes you wonder why civilized western Europeans bothered inventing the concept in the first place.
you know who else (other than current day progressives) was obsessed with race?
Hitler and his predecessors in the American South.
Facebook changes, government regulations…and the end of an era? Facebook announced last week that it will start filling users' home screens with algorithmically popular content from strangers, instead of focusing on content from friends and the pages that a user follows.
"We better torch this place before Musk gets ahold of it!"
Pesci & DeNiro better run, Mom Nature is out for the Goodfellas cast ... long live Paul Sorvino.
Today in libertarian commentary:
Once again this is not libertarian, this is "anti-left".
If AP wants to write their style guide however they see fit, why should any libertarian complain? No one outside of AP is being forced to use the style guide. I seriously doubt Fox News reporters use the AP style guide (or at least not this section being discussed here).
Furthermore, this statement:
‘A person’s sex and gender are usually assigned at birth by parents or attendants and can turn out to be inaccurate.’
How is it a lie? Even the authors admit that there are very rare disorders that impede normal development of the fetus and because of this, a baby's sex as assigned at birth could turn out to be inaccurate. But the authors instead argue against a strawman that what the AP style guide "really" means is that they think sex is an entirely social concept decided upon at a whim without regards to biology. That isn't what the style guide says, is it now? In fact is there anyone seriously arguing that biological sex is an entirely social concept?
Furthermore, sex and gender are not the same thing.
This article is pulling the Robby "to be sure" trick, spending a passing moment to acknowledge the truth but then spending the rest of the time arguing against the leftwing bogeyman that they have created.
It is pro truth and pro free speech, therefore, like the name "Reason" magazine, it's pro-reason. It is therefore, completely libertarian.
First, in Libertopia, people would have maximum freedom of conscience so they would be completely free to believe whatever they wished, even if it was not objectively true. There are people right now who believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old. They are free to believe that even though all objective evidence says otherwise. I would not want to force them to accept an objective reality that they are not ready to confront.
Second, the statements that the AP style guide makes aren't even untrue, as I have pointed out. They are either strictly factually correct, or at worst a value judgment (whether 'deadnaming' ought to be tolerated or not). There is no objectively right or wrong answer to that.
So. You pull this particular twist a lot. You say that people should not be forced to believe something in response to people's statements calling out something as wrong.
So, I'm not getting a strong "the government should shoot the AP until they change their guidelines" vibe from Paul there or the article. So, you just argue that it's unlibertarian to disagree strongly with something. You also do this when we've discussed mental health in the past, where you've decried the idea of someone recommending help to someone as unlibertarian. This was also in the case of the Transgender discussion.
I will once again repeat that you are advocating something closer to a strawman representation of libertarianism. A radical isolationism moreso than an individualism. The idea that people shouldn't even interact particularly as it may effect the outcomes of their thinking.
I have to go soon, but I at least wanted to give you the courtesy of a response.
Ultimately I think the question is, if a person were to believe that the Earth was 6,000 years old, or believed some other thing that did not conform with objective reality, could that person still be a libertarian in good standing? And I think the answer is yes. Whether we would WANT those people to be libertarians in good standing is another matter.
A man cannot become a woman, nor a woman become a man, is way more scientifically solid than believing the earth cannot be only 6000 years old.
Haven't you ever heard of hormones? The only difference between males and females are hormones, and they come in bottles now.
Why do people who know nothing about embryology or geology insist on having opinions about them?
LOL
You're right, the human condition is a tragic farce. The potential to know the deepest secrets of the universe, couched in a brain that would almost always rather tell itself how great it is for believing what it was taught when it was in kindergarten.
Why don't you cut to the chase and explain what you want the government to do to trans people?
the fact that you think its this simple, shows exactly how simple you are
Fucking idiot doesn’t know about chromosomes.
You gonna check everyone's DNA before they're allowed to wear the clothes they want?
Now apply this to DNA.
I'll go!
I don't think the government should force you to do anything because of what's in your DNA.
What do you think it should be forcing people to do?
Nothing. Unlike you I dont think government should force acceptance of mental disorders regarding DNA based outcomes.
And yes it is a dysmorphic disorder.
Just like we don't treat anorexia with liposuction. Or give in to those wanting to cut off an arm or paralyze themselves. And I sure don't want them enforcing acceptance of mental disorders to make people play along.
this is correct. The analogous situation would be allowing anorexic girls to get liposuction or "toxic" bros to take steroids in high school to get extra jacked.
Why would 'living your truth' be limited to people only identifying as as sex/gender they will never be? Wouldnt the more reasonable approach allow women to look more like an ideal woman and men to look more like an ideal man?
So all of this hysterical whining is all about you having an opinion about the mental status of hypothetical strangers?
Why is anyone supposed to give a shit about your stupid-ass opinion?
If you don't want the government to do anything about any of this, then why are we talking about it?
Weird. You blocked me after telling you that yesterday.
Or did you think the name of Reason magazine was chosen by accident?
Furthermore, sex and gender are not the same thing.
Gender is a concept that shouldn't exist. There is ONLY sex. Your "gender expression" will never change that biological fact. Gender is used as a stereotyping (and more often than not, entirely misogynistic bludgeon) by the trans movement.
I'm not a woman because I wear a dress and lipstick. And I'm not a man because I wear pants and no makeup.
Gender is a concept that shouldn't exist. There is ONLY sex.
Well, the concept of gender does exist, that is simply reality. And if it didn't exist, we would nonetheless have to come up with a word for "the appearance and social conventions commonly associated with members of a particular sex".
Suppose you go to a party, and you see a bunch of people in a group who appear as, and conform to the social conventions of, members of the male sex. So mentally you might assign each a gender of "man" in order to decide for yourself which social conventions you should use in order to interact with them. But then supposed at the end of the party, when everyone has gone home, you realize that one of those "men" was actually a trans-man, i.e., a biological female. Is this person a "man" or a "woman"?
Gender is a pretty recent construct resulting from an extrapolation from a linguistic term. It's a sociological concept, and a name for the sort of statistical distribution of how the different sexes act in a given society. So "gender roles". This was always a somewhat vague term, but if sociologists had use for it that's fine. It is a reality in the sense that the men and women are different on average, but it's definitely less real than sex because it's more a normative description and changes from society to society. It's a name for a statistical distribution.
And now many folks are attempting to divorce gender from sex as a biological concept because it is viewed to free people from the facts. So, now it's just used as a means to confuse.
So, for instance, you're now pushing Paul into a largely meaningless linguistic discussion as a way to ignore the core thing being discussed. You do this a lot.
It's a name for a statistical distribution.
Yes, more or less.
And now many folks are attempting to divorce gender from sex as a biological concept because it is viewed to free people from the facts. So, now it's just used as a means to confuse.
I don't see it that way. I see that the separation of the concept of sex from gender is to try to have a better, more factual description of reality. It is a recognition that social conventions are not dictated by biology, they are dictated by society. So there ought to be IMO separate terms to describe "one's biological genitals" and "one's social conventions that one chooses to adopt".
"I see that the separation of the concept of sex from gender is to try to have a better, more factual description of reality"
Literally psychotic.
It is a recognition that social conventions are not dictated by biology, they are dictated by society.
Having a dick or breasts is actually dictated by biology, not society. Cutting those off because you've deluded yourself in to thinking you shouldn't have a dick or tits to function like a normal human being is literally the opposite of a factual description of reality.
"Having a dick or breasts is actually dictated by biology, not society. Cutting those off..."
How do you "have" something you have amputated? Is this a riddle?
You're trying to assert an essentialist argument by referring to things that can very well be changed. If you want to assert that there's a mystical mote of femininity or masculinity in people, then describe that. Don't say people can't change something by changing it.
Please amputate your head so we can finally formally prove you were born without a brain.
Here, fetch. It gots electrolytes.
Youre again saying sex and gender are separate yet advocate for changing gender based on sex based representations.
You are the one who is inconsistent here.
Lying Jeffy getting hammered by BUCS, one of the most non confrontational commentators on the board.
What’s next, Zeb starts calling him Lying Jeffy?
And finally,
Suppose you go to a party, and you see a bunch of people in a group who appear as, and conform to the social conventions of, members of the male sex. So mentally you might assign each a gender of "man" in order to decide for yourself which social conventions you should use in order to interact with them. But then supposed at the end of the party, when everyone has gone home, you realize that one of those "men" was actually a trans-man, i.e., a biological female. Is this person a "man" or a "woman"?
She was a woman. The fact that you were either wrong in your assessment or too polite to call it out does nothing to change that fact. It's not a particularly good counter-example.
She was a woman.
Okay, so in that group of people at the party, there were two different types of people: a man acting like a man, and a woman acting like a man. And both of these are different than a woman acting like a woman.
No, they really aren't. My family had had women with stereotypically male personalities and stereotypically male ways of dressing and stereotypically male hobbies and in some cases stereotypically male nicknames, and none of that has made us be any less of woman than any other woman. Pronouns, behaviors, and modes of dress are malleable by environment, biological facts aren't.
A transman will cease to have any difference from a tomboy in a language that doesn't indicate sex through pronouns and word endings. A woman will not cease to be have biological difference from a man depending on what language you use.
A woman putting on a "man" costume doesn't make her a man. She is what she is. A is A. She's a woman wearing a "man" costume.
Just ask Jame Gumm.
Then what are the terms you would like to use to distinguish between:
a man acting like a man
a man acting like a woman
a woman acting like a man
a woman acting like a woman
a man acting like a man
a man acting like a woman
a woman acting like a man
a woman acting like a woman
Each would depend on one's definition I would think. Acting like or trying to pass as the opposite sex can be defined different ways. Some gay man act very effeminate, according to my definition of effeminate. Some Lesbian women act very manlike, according to my definition of manlike.
A trans person with a penis and a beard that is wearing a dress is a man in a dress to me. Nothing in appearance and behaviour would say woman. Elliot page in man clothes with surgery to remove her breasts is still a woman to me. The eyes, softer skin, rounded features and butt shape are still womanly characteristics that chest surgery can't do away with.
A splurb is a splurb. It's jus' logic.
Ayn Rand was a stupid bitch. Saying a word means what the word means is a tautology. It is 100% devoid of content.
You're not saying anything other than "I deserve to be able to be rude to trans people and not be thought a bad person."
Tough shit. There's no excuse for rudeness.
well when the truth is considered "violence" its quite a different situation than being 'rude' to trans people
to tell a tranny they will never be the opposite sex, all attempts will likely leave them scarred and miserably depressed, and they will have a terrible, unfulfilling sex life and partnership, is just frankly in line with the statistics.
Facts, unfortunately, dont give a fuck about your feelings. You can call that 'violence' if you want, but doesnt make it any less true
#partyofsciance
So explain what you want the government to do to trans people, who are, after all, just people making personal decisions for themselves.
If you don't want the government to do anything to them, then why do I care about your poorly informed nonsense opinions?
How about a white person acting like a stereotypical underclass black person? What is his reality?
The reality is I don’t want to be anywhere near the type of parties you go to
I think in your example, Jeff, and what we are seeing in the world is TRANS is the construct. It requires a non-biological interpretation of the reality of sex. It is another first world, entitled concept that has grown exponentially while we have gotten more comfortable. You mentioned travel in an earlier post. How many third world countries with less resources concern themselves with this stuff.
A woman that pretends to be a man is not a man. They can be socially accepted in circles as a 'man' but always with the qualifier. The TRANS movement is intent on making that qualifier normative, but that can't be forced. And as we are witnessing, the trend is being pushed so hard that some children who ten or twenty years ago would be tomboys or effeminate/emo boys are now being pushed toward changing sex. It is not a positive trend, especially for young people who are unsure of themselves.
It is a social construction. The byproduct is also we get terms like non-binary and pansexual or even a basic Queer that is another category. The categories are the important part, not the behaviour. Kids want to fit in, however they can.
So a mature adult woman that dresses like a man, maybe does away with her boobs and still menstruates is not a 'man' and never will be. It doesn't matter that I recognize it now or later, when I do I either care or I don't. That is all that matters. I can't be forced to care, call that person a man. She still can't stand beside me and take a piss in the woods after too many beers if she is still woman. That is a natural fact.
And a woman with a penis still has the testosterone and more aggressive nature of a man no matter how much estrogen he takes and how much silicone he stuffs in his chest.
The rest is societal playtime. We are indulging the next generation with this while crippling their sense of individuality further by not allowing it to be questioned.
Mike Myers' Austin Powers 'That's a man, baby.' is now a trigger warning. Do we really want our kids to grow up with that?
It's not an entirely settled issue, I'll give you that. Feminists and gays thought we were deemphasizing the importance of gender roles in the 20th and early 21st centuries. Then trans people came along and started reemphasizing them, saying not that they are somewhere in the middle of a spectrum of behavior, but that they were in the "wrong" bodies, that stereotypical gender roles were important to them, and that freedom was the ability to choose.
At the end of the day, if we care about freedom, we simply don't care what people call themselves or do with their own bodies. How are you going to stop them? With the government?
they can do what they want
it just has no place in classrooms.
your fantastical bullshit ideology has the same standing in the classroom as any deity worshipping or reincarnation focused ideology does
and if you insist to have your religion in classrooms, then you sign onto christians having theirs back in too. Just because your god isnt one of the 'traditional' ones doesnt make it any less silly
So how should a teacher discuss the topics of sex and gender?
The topic of sex should only be taught as part of sex ed, and be age appropriate. Gender shouldn’t be taught at all, groomer.
Sex Ed has been a failure since it was introduced in the 70's
What R Mac said^.
Sex can be informational and part of sex ed at MUCH later ages than they are pushing. Floridas law, and the freakout by the left about it, proved to us they are trying to push this stuff on inappropriately young ages.
So some more appropriate age. Id imagine that ends up being 11 or 12 at the earliest.
And gender discussion only so much that you are teaching kids specifically about their bodies. You are a girl, so your boobs are going to grow and youll start having periods. You are a boy so wrap that shit up if you fuck someone.
Any other discussion of gender is not appropriate for school. Transgenderism has as much place in the classroom as trans-substantiation. Neither religious doctrine should be pushed on kids.
So you do want the government to do something: you want it to pretend that trans people don't exist.
How shall they treat Jews?
Tony, I don't care. But why then is our government devoting an entire month to the celebration of their ideas about themselves? Why are our schools and department of education indulging this idea to the extent that the stereotypes are being used to define a child's sex?
We were de-emphasizing, now we are re-emphasizing, but with a twist. Those same stereotypes are used to leap to conclusion in the name of compassion. All except for one. The typical, logical hard as nails male stereotype. That one is now toxic masculinity. Until its needed of course.
I don't have the first clue what's going on in classrooms, but I know that neither I nor a FOX News propaganda bitch are better experts at teaching children than teachers are.
People who react to science and knowledge with fucking pitchforks shouldn't have opinions on how to educate people.
I get that you want your fairy tale of human social norms from the 19th century to be forced on children. But even if you succeeded, they have the fucking internet on their phones. The horse has left the barn dude.
Maybe it's the case that the rigidly imposed social roles for the gender were missing a lot of the spectrum of human behavior the whole time. That's what "rigidly imposed" implies, after all.
Just learn to enjoy freedom and maybe you'll not have a premature heart attack. Stop watching FOX News, for the same reason.
A woman that pretends to be a man is not a man.
A woman that pretends to be a man is not a biological male, that is correct.
But a woman that pretends to be a man is not following the social conventions that are expected of biological females, either.
So the word that is in common use to describe this person is "trans-man". The person is a "man" from the point of view of social conventions, but biologically, this person is a female. So in describing this person as a "man", no one is seriously claiming that the person has the biological organs of a man. Only that this person has chosen to adopt the social conventions associated with biological males. Fair enough?
Your ilk's redefinition of the word "gender" isn't even 25 years old and 75% of the population doesn't accept it.
Go play your rhetorical games somewhere else, Jeffy.
So in describing this person as a "man", no one is seriously claiming that the person has the biological organs of a man. Only that this person has chosen to adopt the social conventions associated with biological males. Fair enough?
The circles are claiming that this definition of 'man' be accepted as an equal representation of being male. When pushed, the circle attacks to try to force that idiom on whomever dares question. That is not fair, no.
That person can adopt whatever social conventions they want, but if they want to call themselves a 'man' and someone else doesn't see it that way, doesn't accept and then ridicules that person that is the consequence of the adoption. No one should be required to accept an illusion they don't perceive. We learned that in the book The Emperors New Clothes as children.
"That's a man, baby." - Austin Powers. It's an observation not a accusation. It's rooted in another truth.
It is not reality. It is a post modernist construct.
Why do trans females express themselves based on representations of the opposite DNA expressions? Same with trans men. Why is surgery required if DNA and gender are not intermixed?
seven or eight years hanging out at this place I *still* don't know what you are
I'm just being me.
A lying socialist who put on a libertarian costume but has so little knowledge of it really sucks at it. Not even a d movie acting job.
It is a lying, psychotic, malicious clump of cancer
I conceptualize him as a vestige or ancillary vessel of something like The Supreme Head of the World Party from Dick's Faith Of Our Fathers.
sorry that was to Diane. or Paul.
If AP wants to write their style guide however they see fit, why should any libertarian complain?
It's conveniently distilled with ideologies that pre-date libertarianism and most libertarians simply acknowledge concepts and ideas outside libertarianism and simply reference those, but if you have to strictly confine it within libertarianism: Women have and hold certain physical properties (in the 'something to which one has legal title' sense but the 'a descriptive characteristic' works as well) that men don't (and vice versa). The AP is re-writing their style guide to devalue said property and/or strip women (and men) of their ownership of it.
this is "anti-left"
AP is changing it's style guidelines to deny objective truth in an effort to protect the feelings of at the very most 0.3% of the population? Criticism of that is better classified as "anti-insanity".
William Bruce Jenner won the Decathlon event at the 1976 Olympics in Montreal. He was on my Wheaties box. If you disagree with that, fuck off and die. Painfully and soon.
Do you think you people could speed this thing along before you do something stupid and start voting on the trans issue, as if it were actually important?
By this thing I mean your inevitable acceptance of trans people, just like you did with gay people and black people and women, just slower than everyone else.
Black people and women aren't defined by their fetishes.
The biggest lie of the 21st century is to pretend mental illness and assfucking is the same thing as having an XX chromosome or Sub-Saharan ancestry.
If someone wants to wear a dress or suck a dick should they be allowed? Fuck yes.
Should everyone else be forced to play along with their perversions or delusions and spend a month celebrating the crazy? Fuck no.
Who's forcing you to "play along"? You need to be specific in your words, because I'm not entirely convinced you don't want to use the government to hurt gay and trans people. Republicans have been doing that this whole time, after all.
You must hate that.
My first exposure to libertarianism (or really anarcho-capitalism) was in a cyberpunk game.
So it's utterly baffling to be that supposed libertarians suck up so much to megacorps
"People also were less likely to favor regulation that creates different rules for businesses based on size..." Sure sounds like "suck[ing] up".
I hate to fall back on the old logic, but it seems to me that if the people like for certain services to be uniform, without competition, and cheap, they don't allow them to become private monopolies, they socialize them. Otherwise we have a problem, because not even capitalism claims it works correctly if one private company is allowed to dominate an entire sector.
I don't even know what a socialized social media looks like, but I suppose there's competition enough, and the built-in competition that comes when younger generations find their parents' social media uncool.
Amazon could be socialized. It's got infrastructure and addresses basic needs. Jeff Bezos's space dick is not actually an essential part of this equation.
Durr I'm a libertarian and I believe the government should force people to wear exactly the type of clothes I'm personally comfortable with them wearing and no others!
"I didn't say that."
Then what the fuck are you saying, asshole?
"I don't know. I mostly eat glue."
No shit.
Jeff and Tony have the same sophomoric argumentation skills. They refuse education and believe repeating something over and over makes it true.
Where did you get your education on trans issues? Does it rhyme with Professor Shmen Shmapiro?
Get that strawman! Fuck him so hard you give him the monkeypox!
What the fuck are you saying, asshole?
And we know it’s not glue you’re eating.
I'm not saying, I'm asking: What do you want the government to do to trans people?
My job is easy. I may not understand what it's like to be a trans person, but I don't have to, because I don't want the government to force anyone to do anything, and I also am perfectly comfortable being polite to others.
So what's the big deal? Do you even know? Are you just jumping on the culture war bandwagon du jour because you don't know any other way to be?
I love how mad you are. Stamping your feet and yelling at the library computer.
Who will stand up for Individual Liberty and Justice for all?
I'm pretty sure that breaking up large tech companies into smaller ones won't have a beneficial effect. Right now, they regulate everything pretty decently, but if they'll get broken up into smaller ones, it'll be way more complicated. Also, when it comes to user-generated content, it's easier for big companies to benefit from it. And it's actually important, you can read more about it by the link https://claid.ai/blog/article/ugc/, so I think it'd definitely be a bad decision, so I hope it won't be taken seriously.