New Footage Shows Bodega Clerk Trying To Avoid Deadly Fight. Will Manhattan D.A. Drop the Murder Charges?
Alvin Bragg campaigned on "ending mass incarceration." But that promise apparently does not apply to Jose Alba.

Recently released video footage lends credence to the claim that a New York City bodega worker acted in self-defense when he stabbed an unruly customer who attacked him.
The clip, obtained by the New York Post, shows Jose Alba, the clerk, trying to de-escalate the situation after a woman grew incensed that her payment was declined for a bag of chips.
"There's money on there," she says, following a tense back-and-forth. "It's not working now," replies Alba, after trying and re-trying the card several times.
Things then go from strained to untenable. "You fucking piece of shit," she screams. "I'm gonna bring my nigga down here, and he gonna fuck you up. My nigga is gonna come down here right now and fuck you up!"
"That's not my fault it not working, that's not my fault it not working," Alba says. "The machine not working, the card not working."
Austin Simon, 35, is then seen entering the store and going behind the cash wrap while yelling obscenities at Alba. "Papa, papa, I don't want no problem, papa," Alba replies. Surveillance video shows Simon pushing 61-year-old Alba, hovering over him, and trying to pull him out from his workstation. Alba then takes a knife and stabs Simon.
Additional footage, also obtained by the Post, shows Simon's girlfriend stabbing Alba in the arm.
Simon later died, and Alba was charged with second-degree murder and criminal possession of a weapon. Simon's girlfriend has not been charged with anything.
The ordeal has forced new life into a debate around crime and justice, in some sense serving as a microcosm for societal disagreements around who qualifies as a victim or a perpetrator. "You are simply rewarding the guilty and punishing the innocent," wrote a bipartisan coalition of New York City lawmakers in a letter to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who ran for office promising to reform the justice system and end mass incarceration.
New York Penal Law 35.15 allows that a person may kill in self-defense if "the actor reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to use deadly physical force." It also mentions that self-defense applies if "he or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a…robbery."
Reasonable minds may disagree on how the law applies here and how to calculate when and if someone presents a deadly threat, though I personally believe that hearing someone is "gonna fuck you up" and subsequently being attacked would do the trick. Assault victims rarely have the privilege of taking time to calculate how much force their attacker is capable of using.
It is unreasonable, however, to square the promises Bragg made about ensuring a fair and equitable justice system with his decision to move forward against Alba. Prosecutors enjoy wide discretion on the job—a discretion that Bragg exercises liberally when it suits him. Upon ascending to the top of the D.A.'s office, Bragg announced that he wouldn't prosecute certain crimes, like sex work and marijuana possession. That's not because the New York Legislature had a change of heart on those issues; it's because Bragg has the power not to enforce certain crimes as he sees fit.
But as I wrote last week, Alba is apparently not fortunate enough to reap the benefits of Bragg's promises. They mysteriously do not apply to him. Instead, he gets the "tough on crime" Bragg, whose office initially sought a $500,000 bond to keep Alba at Rikers Island prior to his trial after Bragg clinched the position on a pledge to, among other things, reform pre-trial detention. These things are simply irreconcilable.
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Alvin Bragg campaigned on "ending mass incarceration." But that promise apparently does not apply to Jose Alba.
Of course it doesn't. You can't have anarcho-tyranny without the tyranny.
Thug Bill of Rights.
He’s not a fellow traveler.
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If Alba were black and the attacker was latino, would we see the same result? Nah, race has something to do with alba being charged for killing a black thug.
Stories like this hit home with retail workers like me. It makes me think that stores need to be equipped with LRAD cannons, Lucite and Kevlar enclosures for cashiers, trap doors and garbage sluices at the Point-of-sale, razor wire behind the edge of the roof, and sniper towers for incoming hoardes of rioters.
If he somehow gets outcof this, Jose Alba needs,to get the fuck outta NYC and New York State and get to anyplace else where he can shoot back with impunity. Maybe do a Skype video for any campaign against Alvin Bragg.
The City of Philadelphia has banned protective barriers as being "racist". Think that one through.
"Racist?" Hell, they protect anybody who's behind them! 🙂
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That's a joke....right?
I don't know what happened with the proposal, or if another proposal replaced it, but in 2017 Philadelphia City Councilwoman Cindy Bass appears to have proposed such a ban on some establishments.
Nope.
https://www.officer.com/command-hq/technology/security-surveillance/bullet-resistant-glass/news/20986271/philadelphia-city-council-oks-ban-on-bulletresistant-windows-in-food-establishments
Yes, that just blows my mind!
Classic Cloward-Piven.
like sex work and marijuana possession. That's not because the New York Legislature had a change of heart on those issues; it's because Bragg enjoys the power not to direct resources toward enforcing certain crimes as he sees fit.
Now maybe Reason will understand why leaning into the good will of Principals is not as wise as leaning into principles.
Haha, good one.
The Koch / Soros / Reason soft-on-crime #FreeTheCriminals and #EmptyThePrisons agenda includes exactly two exceptions. While advocating little or no prison time for virtually all criminals, we do in fact advocate lengthy sentences for:
1. Anyone who participated in the HEAVILY ARMED INSURRECTION on 1 / 6
2. Anyone whose crime is arguably an act of self-defense against another violent criminal
#BillionairesKnowBest
Isn't that the truth!
The FIRST charge that gets dropped if you're a serious criminal is gun possession or illegal use of a gun, but NOT if you are a generally decent human being who used a gun (or in this case a knife) in self defense. This is so messed up!!
Another progressive Soros DA; he reportedly contributed $1 million to this guy's campaign.
All you can do at this point is recall them as just happened in San Francisco.
Perhaps allowing third worlders to come to and remain in the United States was a gigantic mistake that should have been rectified in 1865.
Or perhaps not.
No, only thugs of any background and extraction need to be thrown out of civilized society, including people like you who would no doubt love wielding a whip prior to 1865.
Fuck Off, Ku Klux Krud-er, and take your contrived handle against Clarence Thomas and his wife Ginny with you!
And you get the non sequitur award of the week.
If you're hoping to excel as a troll, you need to try harder than this.
The 3rd worlders like the Irish farmers starving from the potato famine, or the 3rd worlders who left England broke/in debt to try to make it in the "New World"? Yes, the indigenous Americans made "a gigantic mistake" by teaching them to survive only to have them turn on them and steal their land, put them in concentration camps, and destroy their culture.
We need a constitutional amendment to criminalize the practice of Marxism.
There are already laws against theft, robbery, kidnapping, slavery, and murder.
Nicely done.
I try...
Proving that "the law is the law" means no justice for the ruled, no law for the authorities. The "lawless" "Wild West" was without officials, mostly, especially in the CA gold camps, and major crimes were nil, due to camp committees who self-governed those they lived with and knew face-face. The brutality began with "law and order" hanging judges, officials, taxes, regulations, crony business.
Motherfucking niggers.
That's really biased. You have no proof that the fuck mothers
I’m pretty sure politicians and lawmakers do just that.
No way!
Chris? Mister Rock? Is that you?
That's not "being excellent to each other!" It makes you no better than Austin Simon & Bitch.
Not helpful.
Ohhh Billy you sweet summer child.
Have you learned nothing from the boshavik revolution?
1. Release the criminal
2. Make self defence illegal
3. Take totalitarian controll
The fact that you give the evil, sub human progressives the benifit of the doubt show you are a useful idiot.
Let's hope it goes quickly to a jury trial so that Bragg can experience the humiliation of a jury finding Alba innocent after a five minute deliberation. Sometimes the jury is the voice of the people.
You are correct. Progs are not really human. And certainly not Americans.
In December, 1986 , jury selection began and in April, 1987, the trial commenced before a Manhattan jury of 10 whites and 2 blacks, of whom 6 had been victims of street crime.[26][71] Goetz was acquitted of the attempted murder and first-degree assault charges and convicted of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree – carrying a loaded, unlicensed weapon in a public place.[66] He was sentenced to six months in jail, one year's psychiatric treatment, five years' probation, 200 hours community service, and a $5,000 fine. An appellate court affirmed the conviction and changed the sentence to one year in jail without probation. The order of the appellate court was affirmed because the trial court had not erred in instructing the jury that, if it found the People had proved each of the elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt, it "must" find the defendant guilty. This was not a directed verdict. Goetz served eight months.
For those happy few who are old enough to remember the above... I don't know anything about a modern New York Jury vs a New York jury in 1984. There was a time when crime in New York was so bad that average... real people New Yorkers were sick to fucking death of being terrified to ride the subway and subsequently there was no way Goetz was going to be convicted of murder. I question a modern New York jury though.
Oh, and Bragg should not fret, Alba doesn't have qualified immunity, so his Beatch can go forward with a civil suit.
In March 1985, James Ramseur reported to police that two men apparently hired by Goetz kidnapped and attempted to murder him.[83] The following day, after detectives played back to Ramseur the emergency 911 recording reporting the kidnapping, Ramseur admitted it was his voice on the call and to fabricating the report. Ramseur explained it was merely to test police response when a black person was a crime victim, and was not prosecuted for this hoax. Ramseur was convicted in 1986 of the 1985 rape, sodomizing, and robbery of a young pregnant woman and hence was incarcerated at the time of the Goetz trial. Ramseur was conditionally released in 2002, but was returned to prison for a parole violation in 2005. He finished his sentence in July 2010. In 2011, on the 27th anniversary of the shooting, James Ramseur died of a drug overdose in a possible suicide at age 45.[84]
Goetz's #1 failure, unlike that of Alba, is that he didn't finish the job.
Alba has video, and the possibility of a juror or two who paid attention to the Rittenhouse trial. I'd be surprised if the charges aren't dropped on Friday at 4:49 PM.
Without the footage, the tsunami of media and politico hacks screaming for Alba's head would be deafening
I really don't see why this got this far. Made a national issue out of a local event.
Rittenhouse I can see, because of course he was racist and crossed state lines and everything else that could be made national and divisive. You expect prosecution when the mob is calling for it. Especially since the only lesson we learned from that trial was that you shouldn't bring a skateboard to a gunfight.
But this is just embarrassing for the prosecutor. There are millions of other victims out there to strong arm, you could let the guy with video from multiple camera angles skate a bit on the trumped up murder charges.
The goal is to punish everyone who fights back and defends themselves. You're supposed to rely on the benevolent state to protect you.
If NY, with NYC being the largest voting block in the state, wasn't one of the few states that are so liberal that the typical person can't get a CCW permit or not even need one, perhaps this wouldn't be of as much national interest.
However, with NY and a handful of other states ignoring the Second Amendment (and doubling down after Bruen), it is of national interest that NYC fundamentally chooses to discourage people from defending themselves from lethal force and chooses to encourage thugs to use such force to take whatever they want.
It is of national interest because these states have representation in the House and Senate and residents get (unfortunately) to vote for President. These entities pass laws that affect everyone - hence, the "national interest".
It is also of national interest that in these jurisdictions that politicians' fear of law abiding citizens carrying guns is clearly not "public safety" as they claim but rather is clearly "safety for thugs".
Assault victims rarely have the privilege of taking time to calculate how much force their attacker is capable of using.
Or stand around, waiting for the microsecond to occur where the severity of that assault changes.
"Alba is apparently not fortunate enough to reap the benefits of Bragg's promises. They mysteriously do not apply to him."
No mystery about it. One ethnic group stands above all, in the "equity" hierarchy.
Yeah, it ain't no mystery.
It ain't a mystery
Baby, not to me
Funny, funny, funny mystery
Baby, not to me
With all the attention this is getting, he'll drop the charges. There's other low-visibility incidences of blatant self-defense he can prosecute.
Ah, but in fishbowl World, with every place having video, everything is high-visibility. Let's let's hope Bragg slinks back under his rock after this.
Can we charge the girlfriend with inciting the fight? There's no evidence of Alba "slapping" the chips out of the kid's hand. All he did was try to ring her up and tell her that it wasn't accepting her card. And then she went and got her boyfriend to try to come beat up an old man and her boyfriend got stabbed, and she jumped into the fight.
Women picking fights for their men to settle need to be held accountable. We can't just let this shit continue to happen.
She stabbed Alba. Charge her with ag battery.
Or just tie cinderblocks to her feet and throw her in the Hudson.
Sentenced by Judge Barzini.
Or take her for a drive an send her off a bridge.
Sentanced to Ted kennedy
Back in the Eighties, Soldier of Fortune Magazine sold T-shirts that read "Member of The Chappaquiddick Bridge Club" and showed Teddy's car going over the bridge. 🙂
She used the N-WORD!!!!
Nothing else matters.
So what if she solicited a murder?
So what if she attempted theft?
So what if she committed an assault with a deadly weapon?
She used the N-WORD!!!!
No punishment is too severe.
But I'm being actually serious, here. She lied to someone and used those lies as the foundation to incite someone to commit violence. That violence was a direct and imminent threat, and a person died as the result of that violence being initiated.
Her speech to her boyfriend doesn't pass the Brandenburg test. She provoked a fight that had deadly consequences based on bullshit.
Murder it is
Clearly you didn't watch the Rittenhouse trial otherwise you'd know that using the N-word is no big deal and that everyone takes a beating sometimes.
She said "nigga". Should trigger federal charges too.
Oh please. Just because someone tells you to do something, doesn't mean you are compelled to do it. She didn't have a gun to his head. He showed up . He could have said, "no, I won't go down to the bodega."
Witches aren't real. People are responsible for their own actions.
Just because I pay you to murder someone doesn't mean you are compelled to murder the person. Yet, I get charged for soliciting murder regardless of if you follow through on it or not.
Likely her anticipated outcome here was that she would get the chips (and perhaps some money from the register) when "her nigga" beat and perhaps killed Alba and it was implied she would give "her nigga" a blowjob or two (or similar) in payment.
Same difference.
We know that she at least made a true threat. She clearly stated the threat and the use of her "nigga" as the weapon and we now know she had the means of carrying out the threat by deploying that weapon.
Of course, she should also be charged with stabbing the person she threatened.
If BadLib were king, Alba would never have been detained and "girlfriend" would end up (assuming no priors) serving a minimum of five years in prison before being eligible for parole based on a spotless prison record and having obtained at least a High School education while in prison if she didn't already have it.
Assailant: Black
Charged: ANB. Anything not Black.
Of-fucking-course they won't drop murder.
We never ended separate but equal. We merely flipped who was the victim.
The fuck is wrong with this clown? Can he be recalled in NY?
I don't think a jury would convict the guy. Hope he doesn't waive that right.
We're waiting on the grand jury now, the issue of a trial jury comes up if there's an indictment.
Several things.
She's paying for chips with a card. I assume it's a SNAP card. If it is why are junk foods covered by SNAP? If she wants chips she should by a potato and make them herself.
Throughout the vid it appears Alba is selling looseys. I thought that was a death penalty felony in NYC. Who buys cigarettes one at a time? Crackheads?
Look up the tax on a pack of cigarettes in NYC.
Only a democrat could possibly afford a full pack.
But also, we now know why he's charged with murder. Indisputable evidence that he was selling looseys. DA just isn't going to let that slide. He's charging him with murder so he'll plea down to denying Big Brother his fair share.
It's definitely EBT.
"Throughout the vid it appears Alba is selling looseys"
It's not the looseys, it's the shamed NAME, Alba!!!
As I posted before...
Alba and his haircut (especially his longish beard) make him look a bit shabby... Like SmegmaLung, with greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes!
Well anyway, maybe the DA's "punishment boner" could be satisfied with a light punishment of this particular shabby offender, with his shabby haircut... Ass punishment, cut OFF his shabby "Alba-Tresses", and hang them around his neck!
End repeated post...
To that I must add a NEW the-very-most-post that has some STING to it! PREPARE yourselves!!!
I will turn your face to Alba-Baster,
When you find your servant,
Has become your master!
I hope you can handle that! 'Cause it gets worse, not butter, Julia Childs!
There's a little back spot,
On my nose today,
It's a lot bigger
than yesterday!
I hope that someone gets my
Mouse turds in my butt-hole
A hundred billion mouse-turds
Washed upon the shore!
I hope that someone gets my
Mouse turds in my butt-hole
Mouse turds in my butt-hole...
('Cause I can not STAND them ANY more; their sting-thing is unbearable!!!)
I've heard from various customers that New York EBTs can be spent in fucking strip clubs!
Goddamnit! Can't people have the dignity to earn their money for Jello Shots and VIP treatment?
Welfare EBT's usually have two accounts, one for groceries only, and one for everything else. You can draw cash on the second account - IF you can find an ATM that hasn't been beaten to pieces by thieves, that is, one that's inside a place with security. In the daytime, that's many groceries and other stores. If you need cash at night, the strip club may be the last place open with an ATM.
The one thing I know about EBT with 100 percent certainty is that I pay for it.
Thanks for passing that along and I don't condemn the messenger.
Still, the fact that they can spend it in there is outrageous! And I'm no prude, but I earn my tit-'n'-ass, drinking-and-carousing, fucking around money and everyone else should too!
I have horror stories about EBT-ers and wicked WIC users that could take up a whole Forum by itself and they will burn you out on hope for humanity!
The left wants people disarmed and unable to fight back. They have to make a case out of him so others won't do the same thing
They also want the discretion to completely annihilate the “wrong” sorts of people. As in the Bonfire of the Vanities.
Like the college professor who got arrested and facing massive jail time for having a inoperable 300 year old dragoon pistol in his car when stopped.
Or the couple in St Louis facing off with BLM
Sometimes, it is just time to take out the trash. Everybody has a right to take out the trash.
Having a job is white supremacy, so Alba loses out in the victim hierarchy. That's why he was charged.
But congratulations to the woman. Her entitlement killed her boyfriend. She believed she shouldn't have to pay for what she wants and had her boyfriend attack someone to get it.
She should be charged with attempted murder for her knife attack.
And she lied to her boyfriend and claimed Jose slapped the chips out of the child's hand when there's no video evidence of it. Hey girl, your mother used you as a prop to lie to her boyfriend to get him killed, how does that feel?
She lied to make herself seem in the right, then doubled down at every opportunity. Pathology up and down.
Sometimes people are shitty, especially when they're told they deserve something they don't have.
Why do you think she cares?
Can't you think of what she's lost now she's can't threaten other people with his violence? Have some compassion.
He's not black. Attacker was black. That's all we need to know.
'Things then go from strained to untenable. "You fucking piece of shit," she screams. "I'm gonna bring my nigga down here, and he gonna fuck you up. My nigga is gonna come down here right now and fuck you up!"'
Now that's how to anti-racism.
Black Lies Matter
"New Footage Shows Bodega Clerk Trying To Avoid Deadly Fight. Will Manhattan D.A. Drop the Murder Charges?"
Of course not.
Democrats think guns are evil.
Democrats want the government to have all the guns.
Therefore Democrats want the government to have all the evil.
Democrats are pure evil. They need to go away.
"criminal possession of a weapon."
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Alvin Bragg is a scumbag. Alba should sue him personally for malicious prosecution.
-jcr
Prosecutorial immunity.
They mysteriously do not apply to him.
Probably not really much of a mystery.
Late to the party, as usual.
I spend all my time on Twitter now.
So, apparently in NY, you can use deadly force to defend against the threat of deadly force, but not to defend against the threat of imminent bodily harm. Maybe the prosecutor wants to thinly slice the salami and claim that the clerk was "merely" facing serious bodily harm and not death. Of course that's a stupid distinction in the case of an older man attacked by a violent criminal - only a crooked politician or ivory-tower professor would parse such distinctions.
Maybe here's an area where some actual criminal justice reform is in order?
At least the duty to retreat (which NY stupidly has) doesn't apply when there's video evidence of the clerk trying to retreat from a confined space only to be put back in that confined space by the criminal.
He couldn't retreat anymore. He was boxed in.
Didn't I just say that?
Just because sarc responded to your post, doesn’t mean he read the whole thing.
"attacked by a violent criminal"
Watch you don't slander the guy. His family probably will be telling the media that "he was turning his life around" and "thinking about going to back to school."
Politics in America is not about doing what your voters want you to do...it's about doing what the elites want you to do...and what the elites want you to do is enrage the other side
For what reason was the woman who stabbed Alba not charged with anything?
That is a very good question.
Vagina.
She stabbed him AFTER he grabbed and introduced a kitchen knife into a fist fight and started stabbing someone to death. It's called self defense of another. PS Just before the altercation TWO NY police officers can be seen walking past the register on their way out. She screamed '..please help him...' (before the fight) but apparently the cops couldn't be bothered to take five minutes to find out her welfare card (or the machine) wasn't working and told her to stop screaming and leave the store.
What exactly could the police do about a card or machine not working? Intimidate the worker into giving her the chips for free? About the only appropriate response for them in this situation, would to be to escort the woman out of the building for causing a scene, and to be realistic until she started shooting threats, there wasn't cause to escort her out.
lol the appropriate response would be to intervene in a "chill out folks, let's break it up and move on" that cops have done since there were cops.
If they had taken 5 minutes to do that, we'd have 1 more live thug, 1 more unstabbed old guy, and 1 less bad prosecution.
According to NY Post the DA's office isn't charging her because “she was protecting her boyfriend” from Alba.. It maintains their claim that Simon was the victim but the aggressor.
By the way, why is "Marijuana" and "Sex Work" tags for a story that has nothing to do with either?
If marijuana and sex work were involved here, no one would have attempted robbery or got beat up or killed.
Assuming these vices were legal, of course.
Clearly self defense but then again so was Rittenhouse. AND this guy's victim is the wrong color so he's obviously guilty of racism or something.
Heck Kyle was guilty of racism for shooting three white guys who were attacking him.
Blue city justice is a complete joke.
In the video a NY two police officers walk by the register looking at this cell phone while she screams to the cop '...please help him...' just before the altercation occurred. The cops left in the middle of people screaming at each other. A fist fight then started and one of the combatants grabbed a kitchen knife and went after the - he'll have his day in court to explain why he had to escalate a fist fight into a one way kitchen knife fight. She stabbed him AFTER he had pulled a knife and started stabbing someone. She has an iron clad case of self defense of another being stabbed to death.
She has an iron clad case of self defense of another being stabbed to death.
This is false. One element of self-defense is that you must be acting legally. By first threatening the worker and then arranging his assault she was clearly not. This is to prevent self-defense in exactly this situation where the party initiating violence claims self-defense when the person attacked defends himself.
Stupid, in the video Alba was in a place he had every right to be and was also cornered by Austin behind the counter and had no means of escape. According to both "Stand Your Ground" doctrine of other States and New York's "Duty To Retreat" doctrine, Alba had every legal and moral right to self-defense.
Also, a fist is a blunt instrument and if it strikes the temple of the head, the thorax of the throat, or shocks the body to the Solar Plexus hard enough, it can kill. Fists are even more deadly if the fist is equipped with long fingernails or knuckle-duster-like devices.
In this light, using a knife in self-defense in a fist fight is perfectly justified.
The Bitch with Alvin Austin was aiding and abetting Alvin Austin's initiated assault on Jose Alba by stabbing Alba in the arm. Hence, she and her dead boyfriend are both thugs and it's a shame Jose Alba didn't kill both. The poor little girl misbegotten into this Hellscape Universe needs better guardians than these two.
Anywho, stop defending these Goddamn scum who attacked Jose Alba and Fuck Off, Armchair Social Justice Warrior!
Any other town, Alba would only have to make a statement to the cops and he would be back at work, that is any other town that doesn't have a Soros owned D.A.
Unfortunately Soros owns quite a few of them and they are all his little workers, working to sow chaos and crime everywhere.
Alba is the victim here, not Simon or he baby mamma.
Wow, the same people who wanted George Zimmerman strung up for self-defense, and wanted Kyle Rittenhouse strung up for self-defense, are trying to string up Jose Alba for self-defense.
It's as if their actual principle is being on the side of thieves and thugs.
It is....isn't it.
The left doesn't always attack self-defense though. After the Rittenhouse trial a BLM protester was threatened by a presumed right winger and killed him. It was ruled self-defense.
The response was revealing. The right maintained its pro self-defense position, while the left completely reversed itself. All the Rittenhouse hype that carrying a weapon is a provocation and thus precludes self-defense simply disappeared. The media, understanding the left was contradicting it's previous assertions and eager to protect itself and its allies, buried the story after a day.
Most people including myself only have vague memories of it while Rittenhouse was a massive media propaganda event.
Reading this article, I can't help but think of Snoop Dogg of those who "talk shit get dealt with real quick."
Simon is dead because he attacked someone who was willing to defend himself.
“Simon's girlfriend has not been charged with anything.”
According to NY Post the DA's office isn't charging her because they have determined that she was “protecting her boyfriend” from Alba. This maintains their fiction that Simon was the victim.
Not fiction. Fact based on video. She pulled her knife AFTER the owner introduced a carving knife into a fist fight, i.e. if you saw your son start a fist fight and the other kid pulls out a deadly weapon you can draw and fire down on the kid to protect your son but you better be 100% correct in your facts.
In a progressive society isn’t it important that people practicing alternative shopping not be at risk of harm from their victims.
More interesting is wondering if the female, who wound up stabbing the clerk three times, will be charged with anything.
She won't be. It wouldn't make any logical sense:
We are prosecuting Alba for murdering Simon...and we are prosecuting you for trying to stop Alba from murdering Simon.
Once the DA accepted the idea that Alba was the murderer, it made the GF pretty much impossible to prosecute.
Accepted the idea? Or invented the idea?
Maybe we need to add a check or balance on the DA's discretion on prosecution. I get that some of that is a necessary addition of common sense that a strict reading of the law doesn't have and that such offices need to prioritize cases. But when a DA straight up announces he isn't going to prosecute, that is a de facto legalization without going through the legislative process with all of its checks and balances. At this point, what is stopping a DA from announcing that he won't prosecute assaults on campaign donors of his electoral opponents?
This is ridiculous, Simon and the bitch both deserved to die that day and Alba should be getting an award for cleaning up the toxic environment.
These George Soros sponsored and supported Da's are going to force the reconstitution of Citizens Vigilance Committees.
The traditional penalty for actions such as this assistant DA is engaging in is to be hung over moving water with pockets filled with bricks.
It should be noted that the assistant DA wouldn't be getting away with this sort of abuse of office without the consent and support of the District Attorney, who bears equal responsibility for these egregious actions.
"It's because Brag has the power..." to tyrannize granted to all officials by voters who later complain, yet continue to forfeit their rights, their sovereignty, by granting others moral/political monopoly. Grow up! Self-govern with reason, non-violence. It's only logical.
Also note Bragg did not charge the woman who had a knife and did stab Jose Alba. The message from Bragg if you are black you can commit no crimes. If you are Latino it's another set of rules
No you never drop your leverage to bargain it down to some kind of manslaughter and probation. You learn that first day of DA school. If he gets it past a Grand Jury, all the emotional hoopla goes away and the store keeper will have to explain and prove to a jury it was reasonable to introduce a kitchen knife into a fist fight over a $2.00 bag of chips.
There are many instances of elderly persons being killed by just being punched - Alba had every right and was reasonable and justified in fearing for his life - the value of the merchandise is totally irrelevant as he was facing a potential beat down...
Don't start shit.
Don't take shit.
You cannot even make this shit up - Alba is charged and the girlfriend who stabbed him is NOT!!!
What's with you and Moishe? If you have any White Supremacist, Antisemitic bullshit to say then you can Fuck Off too!
Bull shit. That applies so long as its fist to fist. If your son starts a fist fight and the other kid pulls a deadly weapon, I guess you're the ONLY one wouldn't draw and fire down at the kid with the knife?
Yeah! What he said!!!!!!
Stupid Bitch, the fist is a deadly weapon too and I wouldn't come to the defense of anyone who initiates force, no matter what the weapons involved.
Get back to your crack den! You have nothing to contribute here!
Apparently no one is going to stop it.