Some Countries Are Having Second Thoughts About Electric Car Mandates
The United States should consider adopting a market-based strategy for increasing electric vehicle usage.

As part of the 2015 Paris Agreement, over 190 nations pledged to reach net zero emissions by 2050. To achieve this, some have enacted target dates by which all new cars must be zero-emission. But many of those same countries are now having second thoughts.
Yesterday, the European Union (E.U.) approved a plan to end all sales of vehicles with internal combustion engines by 2035. The rule would apply to both gasoline and diesel and is intended as a step toward achieving complete carbon neutrality by 2050. But according to Reuters, five smaller E.U. member nations privately advocated for postponing the ban. The countries in question—Italy, Portugal, Slovakia, Bulgaria, and Romania—advocated putting off the total ban to 2040, with slightly more modest bans on specific types of vehicles in the interim. The letter cited concerns over the feasibility of hitting target dates, specifically that "adequate and tailored transition periods need to be established." One Bulgarian official stressed "significant differences" in what smaller E.U. nations can accomplish.
At the same time, as the G7 prepared a commitment to increasing electric vehicle (EV) share by the end of the decade, Japan lobbied for more modest language. In place of "collective goal of at least 50% zero-emission vehicles by 2030," it advocated the phrasing, "significantly increasing the sale, share and uptake of zero-emission light duty vehicles recognising the range of pathways that members are adopting to approach these goals." Specifically, Japan's push reflected Toyota's contention that a wide range of options should be utilized, and not just a singular ban on combustion engines. The final G7 proposal adopted Japan's new phrasing.
The U.S. could soon face the same issue. Last year, President Joe Biden signed an executive order establishing the goal of making "half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 zero-emissions vehicles." This was an increase from the 40 percent pledge he hoped to extract from automakers just a month earlier. While Biden's order does not carry the force of law, it does set unrealistic expectations. The reality is that while fuel-efficient vehicles are a good means of mitigating carbon emissions without sacrificing living standards, Americans most likely won't make the switch on Biden's timeline (or California's).
Last year, a Morning Consult survey found that nearly half of U.S. adults would be willing to buy an EV if it cost the same as a traditional vehicle, while 18 percent would even spend more. And that was before gas prices hit record highs. Clearly, the market exists.
However, of the 15 million cars sold in the U.S. in 2021, only about 535,000 were EVs. Meeting Biden's pledge would require a 15-fold increase in EV sales. If the vehicle market somehow managed to scale as rapidly as Biden wants, it's still not clear that the charging infrastructure could support it, despite billions of dollars in federal subsidies.
Additionally, there may not be an immediate need for most people to switch. According to a new report by auto industry newspaper Automotive News, when gas prices hit $4 per gallon during the 2008 recession, motorists abandoned their SUVs and pickup trucks "in droves." But even with prices hitting record highs, there is currently no massive sell-off of gas guzzlers. The paper credits the overall stronger economy, as well as "a significant improvement in the fuel economy of most internal-combustion vehicles, including large pickups and [SUVs]." For example, while the Ford F-150 now comes in an all-electric option, even the gas-powered model has 50 percent better fuel economy than its 2008 equivalent.
Switching from gas-powered cars to alternatives that use less energy and generate less pollution is a laudable goal. Increasing EV sales suggest that many Americans agree. But a top-down exhortation that half of all vehicles must be electric within eight years feels more like wishful thinking than a market-based possibility.
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The United States should consider adopting a market-based strategy for increasing electric vehicle usage.
What happened to Reason? Why is it promoting government marketing of a product and why is government forcing us to subsidize it? That isn't "FREE MARKETS", it's government corruption of free markets and social engineering.
I guess, Reason now says the government is smarter than consumers and the free market is a failure.
Further, aren't those high gas prices also a government created problem, thanks to Biden's intervention in the energy market? Biden successfully converted Mr. Lancaster into the assumption government makes our decisions for us (or the editor choosing the title) and EVs are better for us because the government said so.
It's kinda hard to imagine a more utterly feckless, castrated 'Free Minds and Free Markets.' statement than "the government should consider adopting a market-based strategy for increasing electric vehicle usage."
No, the government should adopt *no* strategy. Not their fucking job. The market should be free to adopt, finance, and discard strategies as it sees fit. Fuck you. Cut spending.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for being yet another reason scientific retard.
1. They don't use less energy, and they don't pollute less. All it does is shift the costs.
2. there aren't enough resources in the world to make enough batteries. I know you will be submitting your patent for a practical iron-oxide battery any day now, but until do that or you think this all the way through, pleas shut your idiot mouth
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You must be reading something different from me. I don't see the author espousing a particular position here. He's just discussing differing points of view about transition to zero-emissions by different countries. Don't attack the author simply because you don't care for the subject matter. Try actually reading the words instead before you start a dogmatic rant.
He treats it like its a real possibility when it clearly isn't. Writing an article based on unicorn farts and fairy dust deserves a similar response.
What is do great about electric cars anyway?
I think a proper electric car would be a lot of fun.
* A lot fewer parts to pay for and to break.
* A lot quieter.
* Fantastic torque off the line.
* Lower center of gravity.
But practical means
* Recharge within 5 minutes, at as many places as there are gas stations now.
* Recharge as easily as carrying a gallon of gas.
* A lot more range. If they can't go 500 miles under optimum conditions, they can't go far enough in winter or under pessimal conditions.
* Better cost less, since they have so many fewer parts.
There are other aspects, but those are my highlights.
https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-ranked-near-bottom-automaker-reliability-list-toyota-lexus-top-1650861
"...* Recharge as easily as carrying a gallon of gas..."
Run out of gas, call AAA. They show up with a jerry can.
Run out of electrons, call AAA. They show up with a flatbed, and you get to find a hotel.
The biggest issue for us Canadians is that at twenty below a full charge will take you about five blocks. Cold kills range.
Jussie Trudeau, genius that he is, doesn't think this is a problem and is all in on banning gas motors in 13 years.
I can't imagine the heat being any better. On a wonderful 90+ degree day, I can't see the a/c not significantly draining the batteries.
as far as heat goes, i see Teslas all over the place in Phoenix and there don't seem to me much trouble. Father in law has one and it gets him where he needs to go.
I've looked into this a very small amount because i'm interested in battery storage for the house, and it does seem like heat isn't nearly the problem cold is, but i could be wrong.
* Fantastic torque off the line. * Lower center of gravity
I would love to have one as a second, fun car. Crazy acceleration.
They can be powered by anything that can power a power grid, like wind, solar, nuclear, coal, or anything else your country produces, and even if using fossil fuels, the economy of scale when burning those fuels in a large power plant could make electric cars more efficient than internal combustion cars (depending on a bunch of factors, eg. losses through power lines).
You don't know alot about power engineering do you?
No, I don't. Is anything in my post completely wrong?
The efficiency of gasoline is much, much greater than electric.
The grid is almost 30% efficient
The grid is around 30% efficient when you include the 60% or higher losses in a steam power plant. But when you're using the grid to charge a car, there are also about 50% losses in the battery cycle. That gives an overall efficiency of 15%, the same efficiency as an gasoline-powered car had 60 years ago - before fuel efficiency standards, before electronic ignition, before fuel injection, and before computer engine controls. The only advantage of an electric car is that the power plant fuel may be methane, which is the cleanest-burning fossil fuel, but rather difficult to keep in the fuel tank of a vehicle.
Or you might think you can charge your car from solar and wind. But when you plug your car in to charge overnight, it's not charging from the sun. _Part_ of the energy might come from wind, but if that's not 100% backed up by fossil-fuel power plants, you will often get up in the morning and discover that the wind was low and you don't have enough charge to get to work.
Nor are solar panels and wind turbines zero emissions - except to an idiot who doesn't remember that these things have to be manufactured!
Only everything
No it doesn't. That's a fallacy. It is being based on current power loads. When you add in the number of electric cars that Biden wants the emissions from fossil fuel electric plants goes up. With the current technology, wind and solar power is a scam. I'm not even going to go into the fact that our current power delivery system can't handle the requirements needed.
I have nothing against electric vehicles, wind and solar power. I believe that we are being sold a bill of goods by the environmentalists and their lackey politicians.
If the environmentalists were true to what they preach, we should have about 50 Nuke plants under construction right now.
No, the fucking government should NOT. It should just butt out entirely. It is none of the government's business whether the market increases or decreases electrical vehicle usage.
Fuck off, statist.
^
This.
What part of the term "market-based" don't you understand?
You don't adopt a market-based strategy. The market determines it. To "adopt" a market-based strategy implies that you are and continuing to fuck with the market.
"You don't adopt a market-based strategy. The market determines it. To "adopt" a market-based strategy implies that you are and continuing to fuck with the market."
This is like Newsom's 'plan' to return to a free market.
The part where government manipulates the market
I understand it fully. "Based" clearly means that some decidedly non-market bullshit is going to be set up on the base.
^Well Said.
Your "laudable goal" is not mine, and I have extreme doubts as to you even knowing how to judge, let alone measure, "use less energy and generate less pollution". As for the government, it is none of their fucking business.
Fuck off, statist.
^
Dude. Go smoke a joint or something and chill out. I would think most people would agree that saving energy and reducing pollution are at least desirable, if not 'laudable'. Your problem (and mine as well) is that the author prefaces the statement with "Switching from gas-powered cars to alternatives..." as if that's the only alternative. That could be part of the solution, but I think that as long as we have gasoline, we'll have internal combustion engines, and I'm all for that. There have been major advances in efficiency and cleanliness over the last several years.
EVs do neither
Let me see - -
The word escapes me just now - - -
Oh, yes. BULLSHIT!
To quote Cool Hand Luke, "Captain, I wish you'd stop being so good to me".
"...Yesterday, the European Union (E.U.) approved a plan to end all sales of vehicles with internal combustion engines by 2035..."
And also mandated ponies for everyone!
I've heard it'll be 40 acres and a mule.
That's AFTER they release us from slavery.
“… survey found that nearly half of U.S. adults would be willing to buy an EV if it cost the same as a traditional vehicle… Clearly the market exists.” That’s laughable. No survey would adequately describe the problems one encounters with EVs. It’s like the surveys showing that a majority would like single payer health insurance, until the respondents are told what it will do to taxes.
"Would you like to fly to Europe if it cost the same as NY to DC?"
"Would you accept rolling blackouts to power EV's?"
Polls never seem to mention the possible negatives.
Heroin sounds great if you ignore all of the negatives attached to it.
What's gonna happen to Japan and Korea's economy if the west bans gas guzzlers? They probably make half of the world's cars and they'll be at the mercy of Russia and China for minerals necessary for EV batteries. And they have plant in America as well.
If you live in an apartment, owning an EV is going to be somewhat problematic. And that describes most of Europe and Asia. If I was Asian automaker I would be heavily invested in red areas of America, which is among the few place on freaking earth where Fossil fuel isn't frowned upon as devil's wine.
The apartment dwellers are going to be in for a rude awakening when they get the bill for increased rent necessitated by the installation and then maintenance of a sufficiently robust electrical distribution system for each apartment complex in order to support the demands for charging EVs.
Many existing Apartment Complexes will be virtually unlivable for months while the electrical system is overhauled.
In addition, given the number of fires caused by faulty battery packs the residents may be required to indemnify the landlord from losses caused by such fires, in the form of costly insurance for the possibility of an electrical fire starting from an overheated battery system.
This doesn't even begin to address the upgrades to the electrical distribution grid that will be necessitated by the upgrading of concentrations of apartment complexes, or where the power is going to come from every night to power the charging systems for all these EVs.
Windmills on the roof - - - - - - - - - - - -
They might get stolen. Better put them in the basement.
Above or below the solar panels?
Aw, MAN.
With the solar panels.
And so the "mouse designed by a committee starts looking more and more like an elephant".
Windmills have such high static loads from the additional weight and such incredible torque loads [more than most people can even comprehend] from the pressure generated by the wind that most apartments couldn't bear the additional structural loading.
Which means the entire complex gets shut down and people have to find somewhere else to live while the months of structural modification are made.
And, once again, the renters will receive yet another massive rent increase for attempting to implement another aspect of the green zealots "energy saving" program.
That made me wonder where various cars of the world are made, so I found this fun chart:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production
Not clear if it splits up by manufacturing origin or the headquarters of the brand, but I suspect the former. It's a fun chart for me still.
In about four more years the EV subset of the Green Cultists are going to come up against the hard realities of life in the form of
A. Not being able to produce enough of the components necessary to manufacture EVs in the form of battery packs and the number of micro-chips required to make these things work.
B. What to do with the starting to wear out current inventory of EVs that people are beginning to discover are basically "throw away" status symbols because it costs more for the labor and downtime to replace the battery packs than the cost of the batteries. Depending on the exact vehicle you will be facing weeks to months in the shop while the vehicle is dismantled, the old batteries removed, the new batteries installed, and the vehicle reassembled.
C. More people become aware of the safety issues, from fires started by shorted battery packs to the problems caused by the special tires required to get advertised mileage which represent a safety hazard from low traction in inclement weather.
D. The complete unsuitability of these vehicles for many scenarios, ranging from people who travel long distances on a regular basis to the need for vehicles to go into areas where "the grid" doesn't exist and power generating systems are only practical with fuel sources based on petroleum products.
E. The growing "elephant in the room" problem as more people become aware of the life-cycle costs of these vehicles and the total is obviously higher for EVs than for vehicles based on petroleum technology. All the current ballyhoo for the "economy" of EVs only work by ignoring significant portions of the energy input costs both for building these vehicles and the decommissioning costs at the end of the usable life of these vehicles.
Or the EV fan boys will reconcile with the luddite Greens, and just tell us that the very concept of a car is evil, and that virtuous people walk, bike, or ride the bus.
Then they go after air conditioning.
They go after air-conditioning and Texas really will revolt. Right after everyone in liberal Austin dies because they're stupid enough to go along with it.
Hmmm, is there a downside to that?
The "everyone in liberal Austin dies because they're stupid enough to go along with it." part I mean.
Short term, market based price spike in funeral service costs? That's all I've got.
" Right after everyone in liberal Austin dies because they're stupid enough to go along with it."
Most of the Texans I know would willingly go along with a program that would rid them of the festering boil that is Austin and environs.
Now if the rest of Nevada could just come up with a similar solution to the problem of Clark County [Las Vegas, so darkly blue politically it's almost black].
Oh, I know! We'll empty Lake Mead so there isn't enough water to power the turbines at Hoover Dam and cut off their electricity supply.
If you think that's some sort of hair brained scheme, it's happening right now courtesy of Mother Nature.
I'd wonder if they'd care about how destructive the mining is for rare earths for them is...but I doubt they'd care if they do not see it on TV on the regular.
Which they will not, natch.
Nimby Attitude at work here.
As long as it's not happening in their back yard, they can ignore it.
Mandates. Executive orders. Bans. Government pledges. Why don't we let Americans freely live their own lives and interact with each other without Big Brother™ imposing ITS laudable goals on them?
Welcome to Florida - - - - - - - -
I'm still paying nearly $5/g for gas though.
Leftists owe me blood
"...Last year, President Joe Biden signed an executive order establishing the goal of making "half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 zero-emissions vehicles."..."
There is no such thing; doesn't exist.
The electricity in the electrical pipes comes from leprechauns.
WHOA!
ML, I was directly promised they'd be unicorn farts. Leprechauns are horribly polluting.
They sure are fun, though.
Second thought implies there was a first thought
32% of 0.04% is 0.01%
That is the anthropogenic contribution of atmospheric Co2, and the proportion of the atmosphere composed of Co2.
Our way of life is being destroyed using the flimsy, irrational justification.
Further, atmospheric Co2 is currently 400 ppm. This is not high. All plant life on earth dies off if we ever hit 180 ppm.
Climate change concern is an evil, misanthropic cult driven by a desire to end all life.
Zero Emissions. Lol. Haha. Lol.
All the while not building a single new power plant and mothballing all the current coal fired plants. SCIENCE!
"The United States should consider adopting a market-based strategy for increasing electric vehicle usage."
Get woke! Market approaches to commerce, and to public economies in general, are by definition racist and oppressive, and really, really slow down the imposition of the Master Plan.
I have a Ford F150. I went that route for the towing capacity.
I might consider an electric vehicle if it met all of the following.
1, It can tow at least 8000lbs.
2. A single charge range of at least 350 miles while towing at least 3/4ths of it's maximum capacity.
3. The battery can be fully charged from less than 10% to 100% in under 30 minutes.
4. It costs no more than $50K
Find my that electric vehicle and I'll think about it.
Now now. This is not important. What's really important is presidential lunges for steering wheels and assigning proper authorship of hastily written notes.
You're pretending to be sarcastic but you truly mean that.
Half the comments there are yours exclusively.
So yeah, it is.
We know you REALLY believe that, jeff.
Both that it matters AND that it happened.
Under Oath. For crying out loud, she retold the story that somebody supposedly told her under oath. Until somebody else makes up a different trial, and gets somebody who may have been there to testify on tv, not behind closed doors, under oath, he can believe himself.
The United States should consider adopting a market-based strategy for increasing electric vehicle usage.
By "market based strategy" do you mean, let people buy whatever cars they want?
Hopefully I'm just being cynical, but I'm reading "market based strategy" as "subsidies".
" But even with prices hitting record highs, there is currently no massive sell-off of gas guzzlers.
Because of temporary mandatory lockdowns, I stopped commuting to the orifice. Now that covid is "over", I still work from home and will do so indefinitely. My gas Toyota 4-Runner sits in my driveway nearly 7 days a week, being used only for grocery store runs and the occasional trip for random reasons such as visiting a friend (I'm libertarian so I don't have a lot of those) or hike in the mountains. It's nearly 4 years old and it has ~25,000 miles on it. The irony is, the less I drive it, the less I want an electric vehicle.
Also, the occasional environmentalist who's able to read more than 140 characters at a time has noted that if there was a sudden, wide adoption of electric vehicles causing a massive dip in the demand for gasoline, the price of gasoline would crash and become cheaper than ever, so some kind of "price floor" will have to be established by governments.
So when "Reason" says "market strategy", I can't help but think about that "middle/housing upzoning" strategy they were cheering on in San Francisco until about 9am today.
i'm in the same situation. my 2018 honda still hasn't hit 25,000 miles. Its nice only needing to change the oil once a year.
End ICE automobiles and pretend electric cars are not running on fossil fuels that produce the electricity with the added environmental damage of needing to mine more lithium and other metals for the batteries.
Not to mention windmills made from ... wait for it ... refined petroleum.
CARBON fiber and EPOXY resin both made from OIL. Rapid erosion of the blades meaning they require replacement every year or two. Difficult to recycle so universally stored in landfills.
AND...Solar Cells made with lots of toxic metals and lots of energy to make (almost entirely in China using COAL power). VERY difficult to recycle so universally stored in landfills. And expected lifecycles of only 10 years or so until a Hailstorm shatters them first.
Ain't "ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY" great?
The solid state windmills look interesting. Lower maintenance, moving parts, less flicker and hum, no bird strikes.
Mandating anything is counter productive because it is essentially force.
If electric vehicles make sense then people will buy them and if they are not then people will not.
Better to build the infrastructure to support electric vehicles to remove or lessen the negatives of electric vehicles such as range.
Energy is still energy, electric power however has a negative that it can't be stored or transferred without appreciable loss.
Proponents of clean energy seem to forget that electricity needs to be generated. Often the stable power is coming from a source that pollutes more than the petroleum based vehicle they are replacing.
There is lots of conversation about unstable or inconsistent "Green" power sources. Couple the inconsistent and therefore unstable power source and the dilemma related to power storage and transfer losses makes the "Green" source untenable.
These concerns need to be addressed and if possible solved. Forcing people to accept a inferior vehicle that is not cost effective without heavy subsidies to artificially tilt the market.
Remember that the government takes money from the tax payers so they can return our money back to us. This is not a market force where supply and demand rule using common sense, but rather simply force dictated by the ruling elites.
We also do not have the distribution system or power plants to support all electric. Germany is starting up coal plants to meet energy needs because they prematurely shut down their nuke plants. It is all idiocy.
There is the war in Ukraine and the American insistence to shut down the Russian pipeline. Reliance on fossil fuels has its drawbacks.
Reliance on another country has bigger drawbacks. That is why Trump's road map to energy independence was so important. Not to say nukes and water, wind and solar are not important, never put all your eggs in one basket. Diversity is the key, and yes fossil fuels still need to be part of that, we are not at the point of all green yet, a point you seem to have missed in your comment.
"That is why Trump's road map to energy independence was so important. "
There is lots of dependence on Mexican and Canadian sources of fossil fuels. And for America to maintain an empire it must control overseas sources as well, like the Persian gulf and that seems to lead to a permanent state of war and instability. It's no coincidence that this business in the Ukraine comes down to whose fuel do the Germans burn.
In countries like China and India where there are not significant amounts of oil and gas locally available, they are pushing the green agenda the hardest. China has enormous amount of investment in hydro electric, nuclear, solar, and is by far the world's biggest producer of electric cars, cars that everyone can use, not just toys for the super rich.
I don't see any mention of China or India postponing efforts to produce electric cars. These are the important actors and will provide leadership for the world. Bulgaria and the other nations mentioned are too small and their actions are largely inconsequential in the long run.
The United States should consider adopting a market-based strategy.
Free-Market Capitalism?? I thought that was what the USA was....
Oh yeah; Some treasonous Nazi's (National Socialists) have invaded it and have been taking it over....
And nothing causes more Nazi worship than poverty stricken... It's a self-fulfilling root of despair. Put Gov-Guns in charge of energy and they will throw just enough pebbles to keep people BEGGING for more.
Not quibbling with the fascist label, but the German Nazi's were patriotic (sort of) nationalists, the democrats are anti-nationalist new world order types.
Best quote I ever saw against EV mandates by Mark Mills:
https://issues.org/environmental-economic-costs-minerals-solar-wind-batteries-mills/
Yep.
Actual end-game; everybody gets forced into electric cars, then Communist China shuts down battery production. USA immobilized.
Yes. It's also worth noting that this is very much more of a top-down demand shortage issue than any other in history. That is, previous 'peak' predictions were largely private sector and started from a premise of "If production continues like this...", this peak prediction is about with regard to a government (money printer go brrrrr) initiative (several actually) starting from a premise of "If we don't meet these production goals, we all die..."
That can't be the best quote ever because it omits the main reasons EVs won't be widespread for decades -- the lack of infrastructure and performance that would allow your average person to use one in a practical way within the way people currently live their lives.
Not to mention, affordability.
I keep waiting for the articles describing the great jobs created by all the new nuclear power plants we're building to support the load these electric vehicles represent...oh, wait. We need more power plants? I guess we didn't factor that into our fancy mandates and green fantasies.
"I keep waiting for the articles describing the great jobs created by all the new nuclear power plants we're building to support the load these electric vehicles represent...oh, wait. "
Wait for you to learn how to read the Chinese press? That'll take at least 5 years and a considerable amount of effort. Better to stick to the Indian press, the other nation with an ambitious nuclear power program.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/nuclear-energy-can-meet-indias-energy-needs/article65507022.ece
Never going to happen. We’d have to double our electricity generation - that is 13 Trillion kilowatts - without burning any more coal or gas? Not possible. Also not enough lithium, cobalt and rare earth minerals for those tens of millions of batteries and motors. The electrical grid is maxed out now. How will it handle double the load? Oh yeah, your neighborhood grid can only handle 2-3 home charging station per block - any more and the entire local grid will have to be rewired or it will melt down. You might as well mandate flying cars.
"You might as well mandate flying cars."
My money is on buses. Plain old non flying electric buses.
I'll buy an electric car when it is as cheap as, as reliable as, has as many "refueling" stations as, travels as far as and "refuels" as fast as internal combustion.
Until then, no thanks.
"I'll buy an electric car when it is as cheap as, as reliable as, has as many "refueling" stations as, travels as far as and "refuels" as fast as internal combustion."
This sense of entitlement to all the advantages of internal combustion is lacking in newly developing countries like China and India, where general car ownership is something very new, and electric vehicles make a much larger portion of the market.
When all you're doing is driving around and very close by to your city of millions, that's a different situation. Apples and chain saws.
Driving around places without access to electricity will be difficult for electric vehicles. In the US, even places distant from large cities have access to the electrical grid. In large cities, I envision electric buses which is a far far more energy efficient way to move people than individual passenger cars which are idle for more than 90% of their lives.
Until there is a way for the average person to store considerable amounts of energy that doesn’t require access to a power grid, I will stick with my gasoline powered car.
If Everyone has an EV, lockdowns will be a whole lot easier to enforce when people can’t go anywhere because they can’t charge their modes of transportation. Utility companies already have the ability to cut power to certain appliances during high use periods (its voluntary now to get credits on your bill) so why wouldn’t or couldn’t they cut the power to your EV charging stations too somewhere down the line ?
Why is it assumed that reducing carbon emissions is a useful goal to begin with?
There is a simple business model which makes electric vehicles the lowest cost highest performance solution. It is the Rented Batteries Electric Vehicle. Buy or lease the vehicle and rent 25 kWh swspable battery modules as needed. Use 1 or 2 around town and 4 to 10 at a time on a road trip. Recharge at home or fast swap for full modules as needed. Trip speeds as fast as gasoline power, no battery anxiety depreciation, and no engine wear and maintenance costs. Also sticker prices would be about $4000 lower than gas power.
16% of global CO2 emissions are from transportation. I know Greens are fucktards, but shouldn't the adults recognize that this a whole lot of jumping through hoops for very little gain?
You are assuming there are actual adults with an actual adult level of education in the green cult leftist zealot movement.
Which, from my perspective as a technologically knowledgeable person across multiple technologies who witnessed first hand the transition from analog to digital, is a real stretch.
Most of these people have been victimized by 12 or more years of Institutionalized Child Abuse through the Public Schools System where they have been systematically propagandized and subjected to Lysenkoism instead of actual science.
What is Lysenkoism? Politically Correct Propaganda packaged as science and dispensed by propagandists in a monogrammed lab coat [and yes, Bill Nye "The Science Guy" I'm looking in your general direction].
Unless they begin with a plan to greatly increase _reliable_ _24-hour_ electric power production, switching to electric vehicles is nothing but a plan to increase control over the population by keeping them in one place.
How much of an increase is needed? Back when I was in college, majoring in electrical engineering, we estimated that transportation used 30% of the USA's energy needs. That is, to change transportation from self-powered to externally powered would require an increase of 30/70 in all other energy use. Since a portion of that other energy use is direct heating rather than electric power, this would be an increase of well over 50% in electric generation.
That was 40 years ago. I don't know exactly how things have changed, but I suspect a 40 - 50% increase is still needed. That's not happening. We aren't even maintaining the generating capacity to keep up with the existing demand. CA has rolling blackouts every hot summer, and no realistic plans to increase capacity even to fully supply the electric power they already need. The rest of the USA is probably in better shape, but only by a little.
In Michigan, I just got a newsletter from my electric co-op warning that they only avoided rolling blackouts in 2020 because of the factories and commercial buildings shut down by COVID, and the shortage of generating capacity is getting worse. Wind and solar are not going to replace the closing coal-fired power plants, and they can't even get permits for new natural gas power plants.
Yesterday, the European Union (E.U.) approved a plan to end all sales of vehicles with internal combustion engines by 2035???
Ya, umm, "Yesterday" doesn't sound like "second thoughts."
P.S. And alleged Libertarians should know that "the rare exception is only the rule for Conservatives."