Are Oregonians Ready To Pump Their Own Gas?
A bill would let Oregon gas stations turn their customers loose on a limited number of self-service pumps. Some drivers fear the freedom.

A proposed bill allowing Oregon motorists to pump their own gas is stoking controversy among some state residents who say they aren't sure they're ready for that awesome responsibility.
Earlier this week, a bipartisan group of state lawmakers introduced legislation that would permit customers to operate pumps all by themselves, provided gas stations still maintained a number of full-service pumps manned by an employee.
Oregon, alongside New Jersey, is one of two states in the U.S. that still requires gas stations to have full-service pumps. It's a feature of the state that many Oregonians find both convenient and character-defining. Their attachment to the status quo has successfully prevented all but the most marginal reforms to the Beaver State's full-service mandate.
A pair of bills in 2015 and 2017 legalized self-service pumps in counties of 40,000 or fewer people, where drivers would occasionally end up stranded at rural gas stations that weren't open 24 hours. The pandemic also saw the state temporarily allow self-service pumps as a COVID-19 mitigation measure, but this emergency freedom was permitted for only a few months.
A 2019 bill that would have allowed gas stations to let customers loose on up to a quarter of their pumps stalled in the state Legislature.
Undeterred, fuel nozzle freedom fighters are back with an even more radical proposal and a slicker marketing campaign to sell it.
Under lawmakers' H.B. 4151, gas stations with two or three pumps could make one of them self-service. Larger stations with four to eight pumps would have to maintain a minimum of two attendee-manned pumps. Businesses with nine or more pumps could make up to 60 percent of them self-service.
"This legislation will provide relief for gas stations struggling to remain open during labor shortages, for station attendants racing to serve waiting customers, and for drivers stuck in line at the pump," said bill sponsor Rep. Shelly Boshart Davis (R–Albany) to KOIN. "It's a win for every Oregonian."
To convince the public, proponents of the bill have also launched an "Oregonians for Choice at the Pump" website that enables people to email their state legislator a form letter supporting the bill.
"48 states in the U.S. allow drivers to pump their own gas. Isn't it time Oregonians had a choice?" the website asks.
Standing athwart self-service gas pump reform shouting "help!" are some Oregonians who say the status quo is safer and easier for themselves, and fairer for gas station employees whose jobs could be at risk if pump deregulation passes.
When The Oregonian asked its Facebook followers, "Would you pump your own gas if you could?" the reaction from many commenters was swift and negative.
"No, don't want to. Nor do I want to see people lose their job," wrote one man in response. "This law is heartless and being pushed by greedy firms that want to fire people and make more cash off of you." "Nope!!" wrote another woman. "I appreciate having someone who is employed and knows what they're doing, do it for me."
These attitudes weren't universal, with some commenters saying that they'd gladly pump their own gas if it meant less time spent at the gas station. Whether that will be enough to get the self-service bill over the finish line remains to be seen.
Its passage would obviously benefit drivers who feel they're up for filling up their own cars, and gas station owners who could redirect their employees to higher-value tasks.
That isn't to say the end of the state's mandate would be costless.
The perennial debate over self-service gas pumps in Oregon is a useful illustration of just how powerful people's preference for a restrictive, ridiculous status quo over an innoxious bit of additional freedom can be.
Every day in the U.S., hundreds of millions of drivers may safely and effectively handle fuel nozzles without incident or complaint. The states that allow this have managed to avoid masses of out-of-work gas station attendants.
Despite having some 48 examples of self-service working out pretty smoothly, many Oregonians fret that things could go terribly wrong on attempt number 49. To overcome these fears, supporters of self-service gas stations must busy themselves writing compromise legislation and spinning up public relations campaigns about "choice at the pump."
It's easy to laugh at the learned helplessness of Oregon drivers. But, as economist Alex Tabarrok says, "we are all Oregonians in one form or another."
That is to say, every jurisdiction in the U.S. imposes some unnecessary, irrational, or onerous restriction on freedom that its neighbors manage to do without—whether that's a ban on unlicensed barbers or a requirement that restaurant patrons show proof of vaccination to eat inside.
Oregon reformers' uphill battle to legalize self-service pumps gives people everywhere a chance to reflect on what petty or senseless regulations they too might be clinging to. Should that bill pass, the nanny stater inside each of us would have one less opportunity for introspection.
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LOL which commenter will be the first to demand that you have to have a state-issued license to pump your own gas? "Leave it to the experts!"
If Oregonians' politics are taken in evidence, they are not able to pump their own gas. Well, Western Oregon anyway.
They’re a bunch of moronic fags. Which is the maximum amount of respect I can show for them.
No doubt there clearly should be occupational licensing. Not everyone is qualified to be a petroleum transfer engineer. I'm thinking at least 200 hours of instruction and 800 hours of hands on apprentice work overseen by a fully licensed PTE.
Unfortunately, I live in Oregon. Last summer I was heading for lunch and my car's engine shut down out of nowhere. I manage to pull off the road and get it restarted. Same thing happens another two times and I'm wondering what in the hell is going on, so I google it.
I find out that of the things that can cause an engine shutdown is a missing/loose gas cap.
Sure enough, it turns out the "petroleum transfer engineer" forgot to tighten my gas cap. I tighten it down, and it runs just fine.
That would have been a much bigger issue if I'd been on I-5 instead of a surface street with very light traffic.
Pump Monkeys is the ONLY thing OR has going. Why screw it up?
Its cool. Its a 1960s throwback.
I wouldnt trade one Pump Operator for all of Portland.
I wouldn't trade a plugged nickel for all of Portland.
My first time going to NJ was weird to me. "I can pump my own gas, dude".
Then the attendant demanded a fucking tip.
"I don't tip when I can do what you do but you will not allow me to do so"
Apparently, some Oregonians think those station attendants receive some years of training, education and a rigorous test to achieve their "Pump Attendant" certificates. This is not the case. It appeared to me that all that was required was the ability to get to work more or less on time and hit the hole in the car body with the gas nozzle.
Also, "innoxious" is not a word. Or if it is, it isn't the one that means "not harmful, unlikely to offend".
what is that photo?
Obviously propaganda.
mom creepily cheering on her previously incapable son
As he sticks his yellow penis in the gas tank.
Nah, they look about the same age. It looks like she wants to pump him with a strap-on. Wait for me, you two! 🙂
It came with the wallet.
@70 and Old Marlton Pike there was a diner and a Sunoco where we always got gas. it was the first place where pops wouldn't let me pump the gas. was always mad about the NJ gas pump thing.
Olga's Diner?
Medport maybe? it's been (good lord) 35 years
Demonstrating the excitement that Oregonians will experience when pumping their own gas for the first time. It's like the first McDonalds in Moscow.
So many questions!
Where is her right hand?
Is she a she?
Is he a he?
What is the price of the gas?
dude that right hand has been bothering me all afternoon.
"Where is her right hand?"
Holding his nozzle!
" shaved his legs and then he was a she..."
Obviously sexist patriarchy. A proper photo would show a strong woman handling the strenuous and risky challenge, while her manling holds the purse and looks puzzled. (And I hear that in the UK, such PC advertising is required by law.)
Isn't that kind of advertising required by law in the United States too? I've seen so many ads featuring unlikely people in unlikely combinations that I assume there's some regulation about it.
Certainly ad agencies can't be that stupid.
IMHO, it is impossible to overestimate the stupidity of the advertising business.
I wonder if they know yellow nozzles aren't always e85. Meh, they'll find out soon enough whether it's kerosene or not, which is what comes out of the yellow nozzle just down the street.
Yes, it's damn handy to have it there but it's getting rare.
A happy young couple sticking it in and pumping away.
What?
Yowsah!
The photo? Obviously the lady loves her full service gas attendent and he really enjoys his job.
This is the gaspump Eden that snakelike libertarians want to despoil?
If there is a right of the people to pump gas, it only applies to gas pump attendents in National Guard motor pools when on active duty.
Where's the bill requiring EV charge attendants to hook up your EV charger? That's the bill he should have introduced.
Yeah I was about to say - what are these gas attendants going to be doing when (their leaders mandate) we make the switch to all-electric vehicles?
Selling squishies and cheetos.
" THANK YOU, COME AGAIN!"
Oregonian EV owner here. In another couple decades our gas laws will become moot. Gas stations will be a fading memory, and gas attendants likewise.
I'm really looking forward to self-driving cars making traffic cops obsolete. We'll see how the police departments react. Sadly, I have a feeling they won't be cutting back their numbers.
Just hope people realize that our electric grid, in no way, can handle the massive increase in demand that electric cars will require.
Democrats don’t, and will destroy our country to try anyway.
Democrats do; and have the rationing plans ready - - - - - - - -
> Sadly, I have a feeling they won't be cutting back their numbers.
Most reason dot com commenters are actually huge bootlickers and love cops because they use violence against those who they perceive as either leftists or violators of private property in some way. They are damaged
Go make your autononous zone.
I promise we will not come in for anything.
Sounds like a dystopian future. We should get rid of the democrats so that doesn’t happen.
Collecting the paychecks for their no-longer-extant jobs from the Oregon government. Sitting in a booth, watching the EVs charge up.
Sounds like Oregon.
OMG! High voltage.
Yep. Attendants who are required to plug in your car will also be required to show proof of 1,000 hours of state certified training in recharging station safety and maintenance, and first aid for accidental electrocution.
To be honest, I've seem several people injured by high voltage. The fact that you don't have to touch it is the most dangerous part. It's probably more dangerous than the gasoline because of the potential for lightning.
On behalf of Oregonians, yes we are ready to pump our own gas.
Seeing how you guys vote I'd say not.
Nice stereotype there jerk. Outside of the willamette valley, Oregon is pretty conservative. Most people I know in southern Oregon have no problem pumping their own gas. There are some people that might not want to get rid of the jobs though. Either way the law is dumb and the state should have the right to mandate this on a company like this.
More like outside of Eugene and Portland. Plenty of red areas inside the valley.
E Or is Red.
"Pump Their Own Gas"
You mean electricity, right? Because I heard that gas is bad.
Fucking losers.
After years of not pumping gas they are now too dumb to ever resume.
In Portland they’ve been allowing antifa to control their downtown area for nearly four years. When they should have all been arrested and given lengthy prison sentences in the first month.
Embarrassing and wasteful.
But if there aren't any attendants, who will be checking vaccine status?
i shit you not, when this was attempted in 2019 some oregonians opposed it because "pumping your own gas is too dangerous." i hate driving thru oregon because i can't pump my own gas and always buy gas at the border to avoid the oregon gas stations. these people are so damned backwards, but they did just pass a permanent mask mandate in the state.
Unelected bureaucrats passed the permanent mask mandate. They had a comment period for it and there were 0 comments in favor.
Just a little perspective. In Portland, the stations pay an attendant and you never have to get out of your car to get gas. Even so, if you cross the river 5 miles into WA, you still pay more for gas.
That is the reason why this is still a thing. They may change the law, but they will raise the gas tax to make up the difference.
The difference in due to Oregon having no sales tax.
WA gas tax is also fairly high.
Very..
Shop in OR...
I’m nowhere near OR.
how does paying an attendant affect gas taxes? the higher taxes in WA have absolutely nothing to do with stations being self serve. you're conflating two things that are not related in any way. i drive across the border into idaho to buy gas because it's usually about $.50/gal cheaper. both idaho & wa are self serve showing that lower taxes has nothing to do with self serve stations. higher taxes are always caused by democrats.
Spokane?
People dont comprehend the taxes. They see a superior good at a lower price and think, why would i vote to give this up?
You drive to ID because the product is the same.
If OR goes to self serve, OR will raise the gas tax. I guarantee it.
No. I mean I seen how Portland is run. I don't know if they can handle a gas pump. I mean typing in your credit card/debit, lifting a nozzle.
How many will put diesel into a regular car. Won't someone think of the engines. The Engines!
Who types in their credit card?
Those of us in areas where card readers do not survive long outside...
When I was growing up there was no such thing as self service gas. There were pump jockeys who not only pumped the gas, they also washed your windshield and checked your oil. Probably prevented a lot of accidents caused by poor visibility and millions of rod bearings. Unsung American heroes. The pumps also did not have digital displays so if the bill was halfway between 3.68 and 3.69 you could argue with the guy and beat him out of a penny. How many billions has Big Oil made off of all those half cents now that we're forced to accept their digital price? Somewhere in the 70s Big Oil invented the self service pump specifically to bust the powerful pump jockey union. Turns out most of them didn't want the job anyway and all went to work for DC think tanks or became political pundits. Like my mom always said. Things have a way of working out.
Gas was 28 CENTS!
Ah the Good ol Days.
I vaguely remember gas-war (remember those? Oh, sorry, no you won't) prices of 22¢ per gallon. This would have been in the early '50s, well before I was allowed to drive.
Of course, this may just be part of my everything-was-better-in-the- old-days syndrome.
Considering inflation, 22 cents then is equivalent to 2 or 3 dollars now. They have to drill much deeper or go to some of the most inhospitable climates on Earth to find oil now. It would seem that this would make the oil much more expensive, but technological advances brought the cost back down.
"...most of them didn't want the job anyway and all went to work for DC think tanks or became political pundits."
Not all of them. There were alleys full of down-and-out pump jockeys, sad souls who bet on the wrong horse, who thought their gas pumpin' expertise would be their road to the high life. Instead, they were sitting by the dumpster, drinking warm Buckhorn Beer.
Just curious. How does it work when paying with a credit/debit card? I always have to type in a PIN or a ZIP code when swiping the card at the pump. Do they actually give their codes to the guy attending the pump?
no, they always run it as credit so no pin is needed.
Yes, but in most stations if you use credit you have to put in a billing zip code as a kind of 2ndary authentication. Oregon stations don't require it. You just swipe your card and you're off and running.
I don't know how it works with debit card because I've never used one for gas in Oregon. In fact, now I'm curious about that.
Swipe, swipe fails 3x, type numbers, enter, type pin, enter. Select and pump.
Oregonians need to get the lead out and support this bill! As self-serving as it may appear, it’s actually about taking a can-do, self reliant approach—no matter one’s station in life. Oregonians, don’t be gaslit anymore!. I don’t mean to sound inflammatory, I just think they should be more pumped about the change!
if i was betting my money would on the bill failing.
Two reasons for keeping the full-serve restriction: jobs for idiots and pussies as citizens.
Are they going to post gas pumping directions in Braille?
Yay!
Who comes along and fills up Oregonians' gas powered lawnmowers?
Whoa now! That takes at least a two year community college program, over 2,000 hours as an apprentice to a journeyperson licensee, plus an extensive exam and hefty fee for the state license needed. Plus any additional municipal requirements.
George Jones?
How many Oregonians does it take to change a light bulb?
three.
One to grab it.
Two to spin him around.
Well, at least in the Portland area, they have no trouble self filling their Molotov cocktails.
Next up in Oregon, legalizing vending machines.
I'm an Oregonian & I LOVE the fact that I can get service without paying extra. Change the law & I'll have to pay through the nose to get service, which is how it works everywhere else. No thanks!
Yeah, it’s “free”.
wow that is some funny economics. somehow requiring an employee to service customers reduces prices. you don't really believe that, right? how does eliminating said employee, thereby reducing the station's overhead increase prices? what economic theory is that?
The democrat theory of everything. Which explains the runaway success of all their policies.
No, he's saying that if full service is no longer required, then full service (not gas in general) will go up in price. I think that's probably true considering that the attendants will be idle more.
It doesn't actually increase the price, it just increases the station's profit a little. Which, to an Oregonian, is just as bad as paying a higher price.
So if freedom is inconvenient for you in any way, better to be a slave. Got it. You must fit right in.
Huh?
Do you think that gas station attendants work for free? They have to paid somehow, and that price is included in every single gallon of gasoline.
I'd love to see you out waiting to flag down a pump attendant in Texas. Lmfao
"Every day in the U.S., hundreds of millions of drivers may safely and effectively handle fuel nozzles without incident or complaint."
Please don't defeat the point of your argument with mathematically invalid hyperbole. With ~330M citizens, there are only ~230M drivers and they're not all filling fuel tanks every day. That's what those without a valid argument use to try and emphasize their point. At most, tens of millions of drivers on a daily basis, and more likely closer to a measurement in millions of drivers based on the frequency of tank refueling that is actually needed.
It says "may". The drivers "may" (as in, are permitted to) handle the nozzles every day, even though obviously most of them don't on any given day. The statement is therefore technically correct.
You know who else in Oregon KARes to pump his own?
Are they allowed to use the self check-out at the local Walmart or is that far too complicated for Oregonians also? What about coin/bill/credit operated machines that dispense everything from sodas, coffee, sandwiches, compressed air for their tires, ATMs, etc. are those legal in Oregonia?
No. They have the Wal Mart Greeters pump your gas...
You get a drool and a smile! Wipe your CC off before putting it back in your wallet
They are considering a bill mandating vending machine attendants. You know, to put your money in and retrieve your bag of chips or candy bar. They'll also have special training in "banging the machine to facilitate delivery" if your item gets stuck. $15/hr.
Who would want the government to be regulating such a thing?
Never mind ...
I live in WA and have a sister in Portland, and I hate buying gas there. DO NOT mess with my truck, that really bugs me! Especially when the attendant screws up. Top it off, I say. Then I find out that the pump handle clicked early, at maybe 2/3 full, and the drone did not reset the handle. Grrrrr. Normally that doesn’t matter too much, you just have to stop sooner at another station, but when it happens at a dinky little town at the edge of nowhere, it might mean running dry on some desolate forest road. So you have to turn around and go back to actually FILL it. JD
no gas can?
Then I wouldnt be on FS roads!
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Oregon and New Jersey are dreadfully stupid states. Pump your own gas you spineless twats.
Jersey I can genuinely understand not wanting to get out of your car for gas. Winter is bleak.
I'm staying away from Oregon next fire season. All the exploding gas stations will set all the unraked forests on fire. Oh, the humanity!
It really does astound me how resistant Oregon and NJ are to this, especially in the face of overwhelming evidence that self-serve is safe and the lower prices are preferred over convenience by the vast majority of drivers.
I remember going through this song and dance in Massachusetts in the early '80s. We legalized self-serve, for a while most stations had both, and after about five years all the full-serve pumps were gone. And somehow we avoided gangs of unemployed pump jockeys roaming the streets.
I also wonder: does Oregon allow self-checkout at grocery stores? Same argument: "I don't want anyone to lose their job."
It's odd: Safeway doesn't give me a discount for using self-check and as a result, I stick with the staffed lines. If they gave me as little as a 1% discount, I'd be all over self-check. I wonder why they don't?
That's a dumb argument when we're in a labor shortage. The people doing useless jobs can go do more productive things.
I had an occasion where I stopped for gas in Oregon. There was one employee fueling six cars including mine. It was not "full service" as in days gone by. All the guy did was pump gas.. It doesn't get much more ridiculous than that.
everytime this comes up, i always get a kick out of the mental gymnastics defenders of the status quo go through, like somehow NJ and Oregon have it all figured out and 48 other states are doing it wrong
I used to work for a company based in Portland. It was bizzaro world not being able to pump your own gas. I never thought to investigate, but are OTR truckers unable to pump their own diesel in OR and NJ?
Oregon and New Jersey have created a whole class of 'skilled' workers that can really only pursue their career in Oregon or New Jersey... or maybe there is a program to train them to do the same at airport filling up airplanes?
When Driving through Oregon I intentionally fill up before entering the state, or time it so I can fill up on a reservation where I am allowed to pump my own gas.
I despise Full service. It is slow, it costs more and is a waste of everyone's time and money in the name of creating jobs nobody actually wants.
I traveled to Oregon and rented a car. I pulled up at a gas station, and got out to fill my tank. A young man came running up to me demanding that I stop because I wasn't qualified to pump gas. Good Lord. I was pumping gas before he was born.
He's highly-trained man.
And now you can be too:
https://skidrowcracked.com/pumping-simulator/
They back off about the time they see outsider plates and you've offered to break his arm if he touches your truck.
Visited my sister once.
In the 1990s I used to visit Portland often on business, usually having my gas filled. by a limp and disabled white man around 30.
He was so earnest in overcoming his disability: EXCEPT WHITE PRIVILEGE. (shame on you race baiters).
Dennis Trigubetz
Los Angeles
No!
Oregonians will all burst into flames if allowed to pump their own gas.
Oregonians will all die of Cancer-Causing Benzene In Gasoline if allowed to pump their own gas.
Gas station attendants will now be required to wear fire retardant suits and SCBA's (self contained breathing apparatus) while pumping gas for their own protection.
We must protect Oregonians!
(sarc)
Back in college, I was interning near Washington DC, my girlfriend was living upstate NY (near Albany).
At ... lets say just above speed limit. It was a 5hr trip, which included one break in which gas station attendant filled the car as I took my own break.
So there is some use for full service.
On the flip side, late on night, the attendant only took cash and only took exact change. I had a 20 and needed about $10 worth and as a college student I'll be damned if I'm tipping $10! That's 20 beers at 50 cent mug night! Could he have taken a credit card? Maybe, but he said no.
Of course allowing people to pump their own gas would be something that the Koch controlled Reason would support! America would be better off if gas stations still only had 4 pumps and the only thing you could buy inside was peanut butter crackers and a coke.
About those jobs: They're make-work, as valuable as having some people dig ditches all night so other people can fill them in during the day. Next thing you know, Oregonians will bring back elevator operators to push buttons for us.
And "full service" is a misnomer. Oregon's attendants only pump gas. They don't check tire pressure and fluids (much less top them up if low). *That* is something you must do yourself -- and pay extra for.