The New York Times Is Protected by Freedom of the Press. So Is James O'Keefe.
The newspaper wrongly implies that press freedom is limited to "real" journalists.

A state judge yesterday issued an order that purports to constrain how The New York Times covers Project Veritas, a self-described "non-profit journalism enterprise" founded by conservative activist James O'Keefe. The Times, which is challenging the order, rightly notes that it raises serious First Amendment issues. But the paper itself seems confused about the rights guaranteed by that amendment, implying that "freedom of the press" is limited to "the news media." That interpretation is convenient for the Times, but it is not consistent with what history tells us about the original public understanding of the phrase.
Last November, Project Veritas sued the Times for defamation, citing the paper's coverage of the organization's "bombshell investigative report" on alleged voting fraud in Minnesota. According to the complaint, the Times "falsely and without any basis" described the Project Veritas report, which consisted of two videos, as "deceptive," claimed "it relied solely on 'unidentified sources,'" said "it offered no evidence of ballot harvesting," and alleged that it was part of a "coordinated disinformation campaign" aimed at distracting attention from the newspaper's coverage of then-President Donald Trump's tax returns.
Westchester County Supreme Court Judge Charles D. Wood, who is presiding over the defamation case, yesterday ordered the Times to refrain from publishing articles based on internal Project Veritas legal memos. Wood's ruling came a week after the Times published a story saying those documents "reveal the extent to which the group has worked with its lawyers to gauge how far its deceptive reporting practices can go before running afoul of federal laws."
Project Veritas suggested that a government source had leaked the documents to the Times after the FBI obtained them during a November 6 search of O'Keefe's home that was part of an investigation into the theft of a diary belonging to Ashley Biden, President Joe Biden's daughter. The FBI also searched the homes of two former Project Veritas employees, Eric Cochran and Spencer Meads. Project Veritas says it bought the diary from a third party last year but was unable to confirm its authenticity and therefore turned it over to law enforcement without publishing any of its contents. The Times denied that it had used documents seized by the FBI, saying it obtained the legal memos described in its report prior to the searches.
Project Veritas asked Wood to bar the Times from publishing any more articles based on the internal documents, describing last week's story as "a bare and vindictive attempt to harm and embarrass a litigation adversary by completely disregarding the sanctity of the attorney-client relationship." By "surreptitiously" obtaining the memos, the organization argued, the Times had "circumvented" the discovery process in the defamation case. Wood asked the Times for its response to that allegation but in the meantime instructed the paper to "immediately sequester, protect, and refrain from further disseminating or publishing any of Plaintiff Project Veritas' privileged materials."
Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet described Wood's order as a form of "prior restraint" that clearly runs afoul of the Supreme Court's First Amendment precedents. "This ruling is unconstitutional and sets a dangerous precedent," Baquet said in an emailed statement. "When a court silences journalism, it fails its citizens and undermines their right to know. The Supreme Court made that clear in the Pentagon Papers case, a landmark ruling against prior restraint blocking the publication of newsworthy journalism. That principle clearly applies here. We are seeking an immediate review of this decision."
In a story about the controversy, Times reporter Michael Grynbaum notes that "the order raised immediate concerns among First Amendment advocates, who called it a violation of basic constitutional protections for journalists." But he also suggests that Project Veritas does not deserve those protections. "Project Veritas has sought to portray itself as a journalistic organization protected by First Amendment rights afforded to the news media," he says.
To cast doubt on the organization's self-portrayal, Grynbaum quotes a November 14 press release in which the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) expressed concern about the search warrants that the FBI served on O'Keefe, Cochran, and Meads. Although the ACLU "criticized the Justice Department for 'invasive searches and seizures' of properties affiliated with the group," Grynbaum reports, it also said "reasonable observers might not consider their activities to be journalism at all."
Why is that relevant? It's not. In the press release that Grynbaum quotes, Brian Hauss, senior staff attorney with the ACLU's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, expressed distaste for Project Veritas' shady practices. But he also made it clear that, regardless of how one classifies the organization, the FBI's investigation of it raised First Amendment concerns.
"Project Veritas has engaged in disgraceful deceptions, and reasonable observers might not consider their activities to be journalism at all," Hauss said. "Nevertheless, the precedent set in this case could have serious consequences for press freedom. Unless the government had good reason to believe that Project Veritas employees were directly involved in the criminal theft of the diary, it should not have subjected them to invasive searches and seizures."
Grynbaum leaves the impression that the ACLU's concern was limited to whether the FBI's searches passed muster under the Fourth Amendment. But the ACLU also warned that "the precedent set in this case could have serious consequences for press freedom," which suggests that freedom extends beyond what Grynbaum (or Hauss) might recognize as legitimate journalism.
As UCLA law professor and First Amendment scholar Eugene Volokh has shown, the idea that freedom of the press is a privilege enjoyed only by bona fide journalists, however that category is defined, is ahistorical and fundamentally mistaken. It is clear from the historical record that "freedom of the press" refers to a technology of mass communication, not to a particular profession.
In a 2012 University of Pennsylvania Law Review article, Volokh carefully considered how freedom of the press was understood when the Constitution was written, in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, when the 14th Amendment (which extended First Amendment limits to the states) was ratified, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and in Supreme Court decisions since the 1930s. The evidence clearly shows that the provision protects anyone who uses the printed word—and, by extension, media such as TV, radio, and the internet—to communicate with the public.
The Times is nevertheless obsessed with policing the line between real journalism (what it does) and fake journalism (what Project Veritas does). "Project Veritas has long occupied a gray area between investigative journalism and political spying," Times reporters Adam Goldman and say in the story that prompted Wood's order. The organization's "sting operations," they explain, "typically diverge from standard journalistic practice by employing people who mask their real identities or create fake ones to infiltrate target organizations."
While that observation is grist for a debate about journalistic ethics, it is constitutionally irrelevant. Goldman and Mazzetti say Project Veritas' "defense" in the case of the purloined diary "will rely in part on casting itself as a journalistic organization protected by the First Amendment." But freedom of the press is not a license to steal someone else's property, which Project Veritas denies doing, and it is not restricted to "journalistic organization[s]."
Grynbaum is wrong to suggest that Project Veritas enjoys freedom of the press only if it qualifies as "a journalistic organization protected by First Amendment rights afforded to the news media." Press freedom is "afforded" to all Americans, regardless of whether they work for an organization that everyone would recognize as part of "the news media." For the same reason, Goldman and Mazzetti are wrong to suggest that Project Veritas has to prove it is "a journalistic organization protected by the First Amendment."
The mistaken assumption that freedom of the press is restricted to professional (and ethical!) journalists was also apparent in much of the commentary about the federal case against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Assange is charged with violating
to "any person not entitled to receive it." On its face, that provision criminalizes a lot of investigative journalism, since news organizations (including the Times) routinely rely on classified information in reporting on national security issues.Assange, like O'Keefe, is widely despised by professional journalists, many of whom argued that he did not qualify for what Grynbaum calls the "First Amendment rights afforded to the news media." But the Espionage Act draws no such distinction, and neither does the First Amendment. Regardless of whether one accepts Assange's self-identification as a journalist, prosecuting him for publishing classified information poses a clear threat to freedom of the press.
Just as freedom of speech applies even to despicable people who say horrible things, freedom of the press applies to activists who publish emails that make Hillary Clinton look bad and Trump supporters who operate in "a gray area between investigative journalism and political spying." That is how constitutional rights work: They benefit people we hate as well as people we like. If the Times wants to claim freedom of the press for itself, it has to accept that the same freedom will be used by people with different methods, ideologies, and political preferences.
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But the paper itself seems confused about the rights guaranteed by that amendment, implying that "freedom of the press" is limited to "the news media." That interpretation is convenient for the Times
Why is it convenient for the Times? Because they have lawyers? Because they have printed badges? Because they have a building that sits on stolen land and they received tens of millions in tax breaks from the city of New York?
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Because their interpretation affords them protections while denying those same protections to web blogers, operations like Project Veritas, and others that are now competing with traditional news media thanks to the internet.
Exactly; the Progressive establishment has no respect for anybody’s rights other than their own. Fairly typical of political/social Elites throughout history.
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And this is how you know the media is full of hypocrite authoritarians: no one else gets the first amendment but them.
I see how they think it’s convenient, but it’s disgusting and revulsive to normal, good people.
The hilarious part is that PV doesn't do anything that 60 Minutes or 20/20 hadn't already done for decades. Hell, Stossel could probably write a book on the undercover video stings the ABC folks did during his time on their staff.
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"And this is how you know the media is full of hypocrite authoritarians: no one else gets the first amendment but them."
The Times didn't say that. Heck the ACLU didn't even say that, they just said "reasonable observers might not consider their activities to be journalism at all" (a subjective nod to Veritas existence outside of what we might call mainstream journalistic standards) then *immediately* followed with "Nevertheless, the precedent set in this case could have serious consequences for press freedom. Unless the government had good reason to believe that Project Veritas employees were directly involved in the criminal theft of the diary, it should not have subjected them to invasive searches and seizures."
This is how the moral panic sausage is made, you're the guy fighting to get at the head of the line to buy the links.
reasonable observers might not consider their activities to be journalism at all"
So what? You aren’t a journalist, yet here you are writing crap all the time.
And you can't read or write and yet here you are!
I mean, I certainly think a reasonable observer wouldn't consider this comment section to be 'journalism at all.' That doesn't mean it should be denied protection, but that's actually the 'common sense' reading. This is a comment board.
QA isn't a reasonable person either so has absolutely no basis forcomment.
Queen Analbeads isn't a person at all.
Some hall monitors are special, you know, when they work for a single political party bent on control.
"The Times didn't say that."
You seem to be saying it down here: https://reason.com/2021/11/19/the-new-york-times-is-protected-by-freedom-of-the-press-so-is-james-okeefe/?comments=true#comment-9220386.
I guess no one's saying it, but if they were, they're completely right?
Whatever, authoritarian apologist.
Reading comprehension, how does it work?
No wonder you leap to see bias in the initial OP!
Don't bother. Its a one-trick troll.
That's just not true.
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You're quoting the ACLU rep's statement and pretending it came from the Times?? ("they just said..." "...then immediately followed with") THEY didn't say either of those things you bullshitter.
Incompetence or mendacity?
Because it doesn't matter what reasonable observers may or may not consider to be journalism.
What matters is what the law considers to be covered under freedom of the press.
In effect this statement is a backhanded way of saying that they don't consider PV journalism.
The reporter certainly appears to believe that First Amendment rights are superior for journalistic organizations, whatever that is. And the Times printed it as part of a story. Maybe that just slipped through, but it is hardly the view of just some crank commenter.
Ridiculous. "The press" is a medium, not an institution or collection of particular people. Everyone (and everything) is guaranteed the freedom to publish what they will by the first amendment. There is no mention of journalists, real or otherwise, in there at all.
It’s called economic protectionism.
The same way the New York Times, a profit making corporation that intimidates politicians and influences voters, thinks it’s wrong for other profit making corporations to intimidate politicians and influence voters.
That's silly. It's a legal theory that the freedom of 'the press' means the medium. It's currently the majority theory, I'll give you that. But it's clearly not obvious or universally accepted. If you look up the word 'the press' in any dictionary you're going to find some, well, let's just say 'journalists' adjacent definitions. Your asking the Times to accept your theory as fact and then if they don't they're biased.
Oh, and on top of this it's thin gruel that the Times or even the ACLU was making this argument you're critiquing.
Well, it's either that or freedom of speech encompasses what I just described as freedom of the press. Either way, there is no special constitutional protection for journalists that doesn't also apply to anyone else. There are some laws that give journalists some extra protections, but that is separate from the constitutional question.
"Well, it's either that or freedom of speech encompasses what I just described as freedom of the press. "
What the what? What's the 'either that?'
You . . . you don't know why they're called 'the press', do you?
Contemporary dictionaries are very poor tools to interpret a Constitutional amendment drafted and passed at the end of the 18th century. History and usage of the times clearly favor the "press as a medium" theory.
Not to mention, that the "press as an instution" theory is virtually impossible to apply in any reasonable jurisprudential manner. What makes someone a member of the "press?" Do you have to make your living at it? Do you have to publish with some regularity? Do you have to purport to report facts, or does opinion count?
There is no standard one could come up with that would be both workable and fair.
The NYT pretty clearly collaborated with the FBI to attack a mutual adversary. In no way are they "journalists". They're propagandists who deserve what they get. Keep simping for those fed boys, Sullum
NYT is a Marxist propaganda organization that is conspiring with other traitors to commit treason and subvert the constitution. PV is a group that engages in investigative journalism.
PV is a legitimate member of the press. NYT is not.
Uh, what's the complaint here? The Times reported *what the ACLU said*, and the OP seems to think the ACLU got the analysis right.
ACLU is a partisan activist group. But you know that you weasel
Talk about irrelevant!
I get it though, you want to chew the red meat Reason threw you just now and don't care if it's 99% sawdust. Get those libs!
Irrelevant? You the weasel that brought up the ACLU.
Reason red meat? Do you read this site?
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What's going on all of a sudden here at Reason? I know you guys hate O'Keefe, your coverage of him has been relentlessly negative practically from day one, but between this and your coverage of Rittenhouse it's like you've all been forced to enroll in Libertarianism 101 in the last week or two.. Have the donations completely dried up, is that what this is?
Yeah, that O'Keefe is practically Freddie Freakin' Hayek! Lol.
Haha, your Antifa allies are dead and Kyle walks free.
He exposes democrat treason.
I don't know about that. They are still both sides-ing all of these in the most ridiculous ways. The general take is certainly less leftist than usual, but it seems like the writers can either write neutrally (like when the right is correct) or editorialize in a mostly left direction. I still don't see them exhibiting the basics of libertarian principles in their framing.
If Sullum was honest then he'd be saying the NYT is at best a bigger propaganda outlet than Veritas. He also wouldn't be covering for the NYT printing illegally collected materials obtained against PV when the NYT is rightly being sued for defamation. I don't agree with everything PV does, but NYT and the FBI are clearly and unambiguously in the wrong here.
From my perspective, it seems like they've hit their limits about what is acceptable. They might not like O'Keefe, but having the FBI raid their offices to take materials in a clearly trumped-up premise that made no sense (getting documents about a diary that they no longer even had) and immediately leak the data to the New York Times is so transparently corrupt that I cannot even fathom it happening in reality.
If I was a judge, I would be livid. I cannot think of a greater contempt of the court's authority than attacking the opposing party outside of the courtroom. However, given that everything is done indirectly, I don't even know if there was a law broken.
This order basically gives some protection to Veritas, and if they do it again, the judge can give them contempt of court charges even if it is indirect.
The NYT is being sued for defamation by Project Veritas. I am not sure if the court ordering the Times to not further defame the plaintiff while the trial is going is a particularly troubling violation of press freedom. However, the Times apparently getting access to materials taken in an FBI raid while the NYT is accusing PV of unethical journalistic practices is rich.
"apparently"
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I may be reading too much into this but, to me, this implies you don't think O'Keafe is a 'real' journalist.
A “REAL” journalist is a credentialed leftist silly.
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Ever heard of the Stamp Act? Probably more than anything else, the requirement that any document required the King's stamp of approval (which you had to pay for) helped kick off the American Revolution. Printing presses were tightly regulated and licensed at the time, you needed a stamp of approval because the King sure as hell didn't allow anybody to just go around printing whatever they wanted to about him and his laws. Freedom of the press didn't refer to the news media, it referred to the idea that everybody had the right to print whatever sort of opinion they wanted to without being subject to the approval of the government.
Which is the basic problem of the Democrats leaning on Big Tech to eliminate "misinformation" off their platforms.
So, is "freedom of the press" redundant with freedom of speech? Is every instance of speech also an act of journalism, insofar as it communicates new information, no matter how insignificant, to the recipient? Or, are the two freedoms distinct? If so, what specifically does the freedom of the press protect, that isn't already protected by freedom of speech?
'press' is publication.
Okay, so if one interprets speech to include the written word, how does that change anything? Are our words on this comment forum protected by "freedom of speech" or by "freedom of the press"?
Both.
It's pretty common to distinguished spoken vs written speech in law. For instance, there are two forms of defamation, libel (written) and slander (spoken).
I think the founders knew it had to protect both freedoms, because some tyrant would come along and use the difference between the two to violate one or the other, if not both, if it weren't explicitly spelled out.
And if they did it to someone on the right, Jeffy and his lefty friends would cheer it.
I would argue that speech and press are almost the same thing. Look at the punctuation in the First Amendment.
There's a comma between the "speech" and "press" clauses, but a semicolon before and after those clauses. This indicates that speech and press are related more than the rest of it.
Press is just speech with technology.
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chemjeff, you have hit on the definitive question. The answer will not satisfy many members of this audience.
Press freedom is not speech freedom. It is a separate right. This audience typically wants the two rights conflated, as Professor Volokh has repeatedly done. That always happens to the detriment of press freedom.
Constraint of institutional media is too often the intent of the conflation. Many right wingers hate what they deride as the mainstream media. They long to hamper it, because they see it as a powerful rival and critic of their own preferred politics.
Press freedom is indeed about publication. Everyone is free to publish. Some folks publish opinion, and only opinion. Others publish all kinds of other things, including news. Viewed that way, press freedom is indeed a universal right, but the analysis cannot end there.
Those who publish news may engage in various activities to further that purpose. All those activities—including activities typically not engaged in by pure opinion publishers—nevertheless get constitutional protections under press freedom. One signal activity is, of course, news gathering. Opinion publishers do not usually do that. Doesn't matter. Their right to do it would be constitutionally protected if they did practice news gathering. Their rights are alike, even when they are not used alike.
Less obviously, to support news gathering, or anything else characteristic of an institutional press, typically requires revenue. Revenue is often raised through sale of advertising.
If government became hostile to the news gathering press, and wanted to hamper them, then government might pass laws to restrict advertising sales. But press freedom decrees power to block that kind of illegitimate government restriction. Under the press freedom clause, a journalistic institution barred from selling advertising could sue successfully for constitutional protection of its freedom to sell advertising—but under the press freedom clause, not under the speech freedom clause. The latter, however, might be invoked to protect advertising content.
In short, all activities necessary to maintain press institutions are constitutionally protected, whether or not non-institutional publishers customarily take advantage of them. There is no power under the constitution to restrict institutional publishers only to activities which everyone does practice, or can practice. But of course, everyone who can do it, and wants to give it a try, is free to set up shop as an institutional publisher.
So there are two different rights, protected differently according to requirements necessary to fully accomplish each. At the root of the issue lie the needs of the institutional press, which America's founders did protect on purpose.
Both rights are available alike to everyone, but customarily institutional press freedom has been practiced only by a self-selected minority. That can make an institutional press look elitist when it claims necessary protections that others do not use. But many inferences based on that appearance have been mistaken.
Consequent advocacy to treat all expressive freedom as if it were speech freedom would leave an institutional press short of protections for activities it absolutely requires. To thus constrain a right to foster an institutional press would deliver a loss of liberty, not an increase.
Press freedom is not speech freedom. It is a separate right. This audience typically wants the two rights conflated, as Professor Volokh has repeatedly done. That always happens to the detriment of press freedom.
No. Stop. Just stop. They are not separate rights. Nobody cares about your weird, failed publisher take.
"Project Veritas has sought to portray itself as a journalistic organization protected by First Amendment rights afforded to the news media"
Yes, the Times is insinuating a double standard, with a "news media" afforded First Amendment rights denied to others.
Benjamin Franklin was a printer, he would print pamphlets from just about anyone who paid for the service.
This is the literal meaning of freedom of the press - the use of a printing press. If any profession was specially protected, it's printers, not journalists.
Yeah, "freedom of the press" had nothing whatsoever to do with journalistic media. It just became that way because local gossips employed them to keep the town appraised on current happenings, or provide general reading amusement, and as those gossips became more involved in local politics, the two things became conflated.
"Journalism" primarily started as a subversive, radical-left enterprise around the French Revolution, and it's never really evolved beyond those roots except in rare instances.
We can say "partisan" rather than "radical-left," and whether it started in the French Revolution depends on your definition of journalism.
Red Rocks, institutional publishing—which was many decades old before the French Revolution—was the principal tool the founders used to foment the revolution, and to establish this nation. That probably has something to do with their decision to put a press freedom clause in the Constitution.
Cal Cetín, at the time of the founding, Benjamin Franklin had for years been the biggest newspaper publisher in America, and maybe in the entire world. He started so many newspapers that historians today are still unclear about which ones he held continuing interests in. Franklin followed a disarming practice of keeping in the background, while encouraging and supporting others in activities Franklin thought constructive.
Another, "pamphleteer," who was in fact an institutional journalist was a guy named Tom Paine. Who, by the way, was also one of Franklin's many proteges.
On this topic, Professor Volokh has been feeding an eager right-wing audience a story it wants to hear. But Professor Volokh is not a historian, and he has the story wrong.
Now you're a dopey, wannabe historian on top of failed publisher?
I don't know if you can fix propaganda in the age of the internet. It's a new experiment. It may be all of our undoing.
But the least we can do is not afford lying propaganda the same protections conferred upon the press. These rights exist for pragmatic social reasons. A world full of lies is not one of the potentially fruitful outcomes the enlightenment thinkers envisioned.
Propaganda in support of a governing force (the Republican party, in O'Keefe's case) is the antithesis to a free press.
When is the FBI scheduled to raid the NYT?????
Oh yeah; Only the Nazi-Regime plays crooked like that.
As-if Nazi Congressmen didn't shut-down President Trump entirely.
..because that's how Nazi's roll.
It is not a "experiment". It is an old experiment using new technology. The experiment was initially done with the broadside of the 18th century, and it is the same old fear of the ruling class, that they cannot control the narrative.
the least we can do is not afford lying propaganda the same protections conferred upon the press.
You know the NYT is a lying lefturd propaganda rag and has been since at least the 1930s, right? Google "Walter Duranty", you degenerate commie scumbag.
-jcr
Fuck off slaver.
Someone said "journalism", Tony heard "urinalism" and got excited about starring in some golden shower bukkake.
Word of warning, never use the phrase "taking the piss" around him. He gets*way* too excited.
So you agree the NYT should be shut down?
It is an arm of the Bolsheviks (after they were thrown out of Russia they seem to have found a home in the US in academia, media, non profits, wall street, and big tech). As enemy agents yes it is time to shut down the NYT..they are at war with real Americans.
Propaganda in support of a governing force (the Republican party, in O'Keefe's case) is the antithesis to a free press.
Then what are ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NPR, Yahoo "News", Microsoft 'News', Facebook, Twitter, and all the nations "newspapers" other than the New York Post?
You don't have any problem with "propaganda in support of a governing force" as long as the governing force is the Democratic Party.
"Project Veritas has engaged in disgraceful deceptions, and reasonable observers might not consider their activities to be journalism at all,"
PVs "deceptions" are less offensive than the NYT and pretty much every other left-media participant. Further these institutions are public relations firms for left wingers.
So, apparently publishing illegally obtained, then illegally leaked, attorney client privileged documents is considered journalism now, but undercover reporting of information freely given is not.
The reality is that for its size, PV does a lot more investigative journalism these days than does the NYT, which, at least at the national level, does a lot more propaganda for the DNC and Deep State than investigative journalism any more.
The NYT has published some great investigative journalism, but has never been at ease while doing it. The NYT is far more at home as an institutional conduit for the American establishment. Which is an important journalistic niche, by the way.
Love the cite to Eugene Volokh. His nascent VC was the first blog I ever read, two decades ago (after I followed a links in his .sig back to his blog, in an email chastising me for incivility in a Listserve group we both belonged to) and one of the first I still read every day. He is unique in having both his 1st and 2nd Amdt historical legal work cited favorably by the Supreme Court. Amazingly, in two decades of following him, I have never seen him make a heated or personal attack on anyone, regardless of provocation.
If you're looking for relief from so much civility, you've come to the right place.
FUCK YEAH!
I am not quite sure what I am supposed to be disgusted with re: PV.
If someone lies about themselves to get you to be honest about your activities and ideas... then they accurately report what you said yourself (often by playing video of you saying it yourself... and often on long form video to give accurate context) then what's the problem? They didn't defraud anyone of anything of value in some sort of transaction. They didn't defame you by lying about you. They didn't force you to be honest about things you would prefer to stay secret.
That is a lot better than someone who tells the truth about themselves and lies about you in their reporting.
I seem to recall a mainstream-media broadcaster sending journalists undercover in a grocery store by getting jobs under false pretenses, then videoing the alleged abuses in the store. They got sued under some sort of fraud/trespass theory. I can't recall every detail.
Here we go:
https://www.rcfp.org/journals/news-media-and-law-spring-2012/landmark-food-lion-case/
But in that case they lied to get a paying job (and then used that access for undercover reporting). That is fraudulent. In a case where PV cashed a check, I would agree it was wrong. From what limited knowledge I have of all of PV's reports... getting a paying job doesn't seem to be common. I could be wrong and would be OK with that fraud being prosecuted... but it doesn't alter the fact that people told them what they told them without coercion.
As an Italian American I was very disappointed that Mr. Mazzetti works for the NYT...seriously he is probably the only Italian American allowed in there by the Bolshevik Times.
I would correct the Times to say the NYT is not a journalistic endeavor...it is run by old world commies who have engaged in the worst form of propaganda and bigotry (New Orleans Lynching, Ukranian Genocide, and various Middle Eastern Wars that killed thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of peoples in the region). Time to call out what the NY Times is...and it isn't a newspaper.
What was the New Orleans lynching?
The internet is very disruptive, but it cuts very selectively. For industries such as the media, for example, it has turned their entire world upside down. For industries such as trucking, on the other hand, it has made changes only at the edges.
So, what constitutes "the press" these days is an open question. It's not a question that should be answered by the Court, however, it should be answered by the people.
I personally would like to see some amendments to the Constitution clarifying exactly how some of its language is to be interpreted. We shouldn't have to just put up with judicial precedents, we can adjust the law to what we want, and Courts will have to follow. An activist court is an abomination, but an activist legislature is an unalloyed good.
Who are "the press" now? What are the limits on the Commerce Clause? What is the definition of the term, "sex"? What exactly is and isn't meant by the "right to bear arms"?
These are Constitutional questions, and they ought to be answered in a Constitutional forum, not by the courts, which have a very limited role in our system.
I want to know what is in the Diary, I mean, you know if the FBI feels the need to raid 3 houses, to find copies of it or crib notes or the name of the guy that found it, there must be some pretty cool stuff in it. If it is fiction, release it, if it was found, it's public information. Its a diary for jeepers sake. Did anyone from the Biden crime family report it being stolen?
Apparently Biden's niece describes Joe Biden taking showers with her when she was a girl. Given what we already know about Biden, I'm not sure that would even count as a shocking revelation.
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Laws should be applied evenly, but the reality is that law are not applied evenly. The New York Times is part of the elitist Corporate Media that believes that whatever they publish warrants Freedom of the Press protections, but anything counter to their opinion should be shutdown and demonized.
Even when the positions of the New York Times have been proven to be deceptive and factually incorrect, they refuse to afford any acknowledgement that independent media sources who questioned the New York Time were correct even if the independent media source was 100% correct.
The problem is that these elitist Corporate Media enterprises are wrong a decent percentage of the time and I believe are intentionally attempting to sway public opinion while knowing that their content is false.
The NYT's "real journalism" consists of publishing selectively leaked information (and sometimes out-right lies) from their fellow-travelers within the government bureaucracy in other to advance a particular ideological agenda.
They have as much in common with "real journalism" as Der Sturmer or Pravda or TASS. They're a dishonest state propaganda organ, period.
Well, they did refer to it as "just the currently accepted ????ℎ????????????????".
So they've given you a good quibbling.