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Let's Make it Easier for Distillers To Ship Alcohol Directly to Adult Consumers

Congress can start by letting the U.S. Postal Service deliver booze to adults.

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Advocates for distilled spirits producers and consumers are pushing Congress and states to reform antiquated, biased, and heavy-handed rules that make it difficult or impossible to ship liquor directly to consumers (DTC). The charge to modernize DTC legislation in Congress and the states comes as the Covid-19 pandemic has changed the way many consumers buy—and states regulate—alcohol, with online orders and direct shipments gaining considerably in popularity over the past 18 months.

"The pandemic has dramatically changed the way we shop for everyday goods, including beverage alcohol, and the expectation that we can purchase what we need with a click and have it delivered to our door with proper identification will not soon go away," wrote Chris Swonger, who leads the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States (DISCUS), in a USA Today op-ed published this summer.

Two key DTC issues are in play right now. The first is that Congress effectively prohibits the U.S. Postal Service from transporting beer, wine, or spirits directly to consumers. Such shipments must be made through FedEx, UPS, and other private shippers, which are often more expensive than USPS. A bipartisan bill introduced this summer, the USPS Shipping Equity Act, would end that ban and allow the USPS to ship alcohol from licensed producers to consumers of legal drinking age.

The second issue is that even though nearly every state allows DTC shipments of wine, and many allow DTC shipments of beer—directly from brewers and vintners, respectively, to consumers—only nine states currently permit direct shipments of liquor from distillers to consumers. While some states have temporarily relaxed DTC liquor shipment rules during the pandemic, in most cases there's no promise those measures will remain in place going forward.

Though the USPS shipping ban in Congress is a wholly federal matter, state shipping bans stem largely from states' authority to regulate alcohol under the 21st Amendment. While that amendment ushered in the end of federal alcohol Prohibition, it also, I explained in 2017, "basically transferred the language from federal prohibition and made it essentially state prohibition, so it gives the states this incredible power to do terrible things, and not surprisingly, the states have exercised that power with great vigor and glee."

They've done so, I explained in a column, through what's known as the three-tier system, a Prohibition relic under which states generally prohibit direct alcohol sales from a brewer, vintner, or distiller to a consumer. The three-tier system mandates these alcohol producers first sell to a distributor or retailer—a mandatory middleman—who can then sell to actual drinkers.

That mandatory middleman exists in the form of powerful alcohol wholesalers. Not surprisingly, some of those same alcohol distributors—the middle of the three tiers, sandwiched between producers and retailers—are opposed to allowing direct shipments from producers, since that would eat into their profits.

While I've written many times that I'd love to see the mandatory three-tier system scrapped entirely, neither allowing USPS to transport DTC liquor shipments nor changing state laws to allow DTC liquor shipments would overturn that system. Rather, allowing small distillers to ship their products directly to consumers will likely help many of them to grow their businesses and, subsequently, to rely on wholesalers for their distribution needs.

Indeed, more permissive federal and state DTC reforms would be particularly welcomed by smaller craft producers and their customers. That's largely the case because while shelf space in everything from large chain liquor stores to more mom-and-pop operations around the country is chock full of spirits from larger producers—from Jameson whiskey to Bacardi rum—smaller producers, who don't yet need or can't yet afford national distribution, could use DTC shipments to be competitive and grow.

I spoke this week with Dan Farber, founder of Osocalis, a small craft brandy distillery in Soquel, California, near Santa Cruz. Farber, busy overseeing Osocalis's grape harvest, is adamant about the benefits of Congress allowing USPS to ship his products directly to consumers.

"There need to be policies and procedures in place to ensure the safety and legality of every sale," Farber says. "And there are. UPS and FedEx do this every day, really effectively. I don't see any reasons why USPS shouldn't be able to do that as well."

The vast majority of consumers agree with Farber. There's widespread public support for allowing DTC liquor sales. A nationwide DISCUS survey, released in July, found that around four of every five consumers believe that distillers and wine producers should be subject to the same shipping rules, and that "distillers should be allowed to directly ship their products to legal-age consumers in any state."

It makes no sense for Congress to (rightly) allow FedEx and UPS to deliver alcohol but not permit USPS to do the same. It's equally bizarre for states to treat liquor shipments differently than shipments of wine, beer, or cider. In order to protect and create jobs, level the playing field for alcohol producers, and ensure consumers have more choices, Congress and state lawmakers must get to work.

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  1. When’s the last time progressives made it easier to do anything?

    P.S. Fuck Joe Biden.

    1. The new Ken? Less verbose, dropping all pretense of logical superiority and going for pure partisan emoting.

      1. Same old Dee. Just squawking.

        1. All part of White Mike’s harassment campaign against Ken.

      2. Gee, Mike, Ken won’t get a room with you? Ignores your pathetic existence?
        Wonder why that is…

      3. Oh, almost forgot: Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.

      4. Progressives are immune to logic.

      5. For the benefit of the thread, arguing with Mike is arguing with someone who will never take responsibility for what he says. In fact, within days he will be acting as if he never said these things in the first place. He is a completely disingenuous adversary and you would do better arguing with the main character from Memento.

        https://reason.com/2021/09/09/california-is-set-to-outlaw-unannounced-condom-removal/#comment-9091773

        That is Mike insisting that he “would never look to Rolling Stone” for news, after spreading their bogus ivermectin story only days earlier. Consider that: He didn’t apologize. He didn’t even try to ignore his mistake. He brazenly tried to dunk on Rolling Stone to make himself look like an arbiter of truth.

        The pathological narcissism required to disrespect the truth and readers so heavily should make him ashamed. It won’t though, so I advise others in the thread to avoid engaging with someone that argues in such bad faith.

      6. Fuck off Nazi Asshole Mike

      7. Is this the thread where we tell White Mike Laursen to fuck off, or Joe Biden?

        Either way, they both work for the Democratic Party and are both unaquainted with the truth.

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        1. ‘And,’ use the ‘and’ gods damn it, ML.

      8. dropping all pretense of logical superiority and going for pure partisan emoting.

        Why waste logical arguments on irrational fascist blockheads like you?

      9. Seven different commentators trashed this post alone Dee. Because you only post garbage and are despised by 90% of the commentariat.

        Go away.

      10. Occasionally, Ken is cawncise.

        1. So many cawmmenters rebuking Dee is a cawlamity.

          1. It is a caws and effect relationship.

    2. You do have a point. (I’m not a progressive, and have no reason to defend them.) I was surprised, when I googled for a literal answer to your question, that the San Francisco government did this;

      https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/heatherknight/article/Red-tape-slashed-New-legislation-would-prevent-15714401.php

      “Also, the bar will soon become higher to challenge transit projects, requiring 50 signatures or five supervisors to schedule an appeal hearing, rather than the current ridiculous standard of just one person.”

      1. “…(I’m not a progressive, and have no reason to defend them.)…”

        Pretty sure steaming pile of lefty shit includes “progressive”.

      2. (I’m not a progressive, and have no reason to defend them.)

        Yet you consistently do.

        1. The ‘I’m not an X’ argument generally includes defense of mostly or only the X group, arguing for/support of their policies, and attacks on any group that holds opposing or differing views. See also ‘I am non-partisan.’ This argument seems to be used here more by the left-leaning and progressives shill-bots and trolls -the righties don’t give a rat’s ass is my guess.

      3. Now they will require two people to block projects?

        1. 50, right in the quote I quoted.

          1. Nobody reads your posts anymore Dee. You’ve exposed what you really are to everyone.

          2. I didn’t have my reading glasses. All I saw was 1 person wasn’t enough.

            1. Who knows — the article’s from a year ago. Maybe they never even put through the proposed changes, and San Francisco is as NIMBYish as ever.

      4. For the benefit of the thread, arguing with Mike is arguing with someone who will never take responsibility for what he says. In fact, within days he will be acting as if he never said these things in the first place. He is a completely disingenuous adversary and you would do better arguing with the main character from Memento.

        https://reason.com/2021/09/09/california-is-set-to-outlaw-unannounced-condom-removal/#comment-9091773

        That is Mike insisting that he “would never look to Rolling Stone” for news, after spreading their bogus ivermectin story only days earlier. Consider that: He didn’t apologize. He didn’t even try to ignore his mistake. He brazenly tried to dunk on Rolling Stone to make himself look like an arbiter of truth.

        The pathological narcissism required to disrespect the truth and readers so heavily should make him ashamed. It won’t though, so I advise others in the thread to avoid engaging with someone that argues in such bad faith.

        1. Does anyone on these comments apologize? If you’re going to make that the standard then every single person here should fuck off.

          1. I’m sorry I played a roll in breaking you.

            1. I love it when he snaps and goes all alcoholic rage and fury on the thread.

            2. I’m not. The fucker is a lying narcissist who is an asshole such as fucking with peoples food. Even in the presence of his direct quotes he lies he said shit.

              1. It’s still very sad so I’ll throw him a bone. You have to remember there’s people that have to deal with him IRL, and they’ve been effected in ways we don’t know.

                Plus the board was better off with only his bad jokes and silliness instead of all the vile, self hating energy he pollutes this place with now.

                We were all better off when he was the jester, not the antagonist

              2. Cooking a steak medium well when someone orders medium well isn’t fucking with their food. Are you retarded?

          2. “Does anyone on these comments apologize”

            I didn’t ask him to apologize. I just pointed out that apologizing or even ignoring his mistake in the past would be preferable than deliberately lying about his views- saying he would “never look to Rolling Stone” when in fact he had just been circulating their fake news.

            It is transparently obvious what kind of conversation you will get with the trumpers, or even with you. But Mike pretends to be reasonable while blatantly gaslighting and lying. And so I keep posting this so that people don’t make the same mistake I did in wasting time trying to have a conversation with him.

            1. If you say so. I don’t generally have conversations with him. It’s kinda difficult when we both have the same fan club shitting all over our comments.

              1. everything is so terrible and unfair!

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      5. Fuck off Nazi Asshole Mike

      6. (I’m not a progressive, and have no reason to defend them.)

        Well you’re not a conservative. That means you’re a progressive. Duh.

        1. I know. There’s no other possibilities. 😉

          1. Everyone thinks you’re a progressive because you advocate every proggy cause célèbre ever, and rush to defend to the death any progressive that receives even the mildest of criticisms.
            Weird, huh.

            Nobody thinks sarcasmic is a prog BTW. Just a drunken idiot troll who regurgitates whatever he heard on CNN that morning.

            1. He does shit all over any thread critical of dems though since he was broken last year.

              1. Yeah, but that’s more to do with sucking up to the fifty-centers in a desperate search for friends, than any true ideological allegiance.

                He’s got their first fishing trip all planned out. Buttplug will pick him and Laursen up in his old, white, windowless party van with the stained mattress in the back. Then it’s off to Toronto to watch chemjeff get winched out of his basement by a tower crane and placed on a flatbed.

                They’ll rent a half a million dollar house with a quonset (chemjeff’s room), and fish until they’re so drunk that they can’t stand up anymore (probably 11am).

                Then it’s off to shoot these really sweet 3D printed guns that his ex-brother-in-law made before they were fighting.

                Once they’ve all sobered up again it’s time to shitpost on Reason, and wouldn’t it be a blast if they all swapped socks.
                The end to a perfect day.

                1. Scarily accurate. Are you a wizard?

                2. You spend way too much time thinking about me.

                  1. Sure thing sarc.
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      7. ““Also, the bar will soon become higher to challenge transit projects

        So they are making it easier for the government to do things.

        1. Wouldn’t be San Francisco without construction projects all over the place.

          1. cawnstruction

      8. When you have to constantly say you’re not a progressive because you push every one of their narratives, you’re a progressive lying to yourself.

      9. You do have a point. (I’m not a progressive, and have no reason to defend them.)

        Clearly not. You are more extremist.

    3. Pretty recently. They’ve made it easier to buy pot and pot products: just go to a store in some states.

      They made it easier to get abortions in many countries where you used to need certain medical reasons.

      I think progressives were on board with airline and telephone deregulation.

      In many states lately they’ve been working on making it easier to get out of jail free.

      They made it easier to get food relief.

      1. Hmm, those are way better examples than the dumb one I came up with. I’m not sure if Jimmy Carter qualifies as a Progressive, but he helped with making craft beer happen.

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      2. In regards to progressives being on board with marijuana legalization, that was mostly inflicted on progressives over their objections and against their will.

        The reason California, Oregon, Washington, etc. legalized marijuana was because they had referendum processes, which let the people in that state legal marijuana because the progressives that ran the legislature refused to do so.

        In California, anyway, when Proposition 64 passed in 2016, the referendum that legalized marijuana, the progressives controlled both the House and the senate in the state legislature, and they had a progressive governor in Jerry Brown. At that point, the progressives had controlled all aspects of the state government for six years, and the people of California still had to force them to legalize marijuana through a referendum.

        The reason it took so long for the state of New York to legalize marijuana isn’t because the Republicans controlled Albany either. It’s because New York doesn’t have any kind of referendum process, so it was even harder to get around the progressives that controlled the state government in New York than it was in California. Those progressive certainly don’t like to make it easy to do things!

        New York is lucky the progressives didn’t take away their sugary soft drinks.

        1. “they had referendum processes”

          You never specified that your definition of “Progressives” only includes Progressibe government officials, but not Progressive voters or Progressive people in general.

          1. It’s not his fault you’re dense.

          2. The three big signs you’re a progressive are:

            Single Payer health care
            Gun bans
            Eliminate all fossil fuels- AOC Green New Deal.

            All three are completely stupid and are electoral death to Democrats everywhere except in far left Bernie Sanders states.

        2. IIRC there’s only one state STILL that has passed a law the old fashioned way.

      3. “I think progressives were on board with airline and telephone deregulation.”

        We may be mincing some terms here. I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to conflate liberals with progressives. They may both be Democrats, but they aren’t exactly the same thing. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders may be Democrats, but is anyone describing Joe Manchin and Jon Tester as progressives? I’m not even sure anyone calls them “liberal”. They usually call them “moderate” Democrats.

        When we’re talking about deregulating the airline and the telephone industries in the 1970s, I’m not sure it’s accurate to describe Jimmy Carter era Democrats as progressive so much as he/they were liberal. Regardless, if we’re reaching all the way back to the 1970s for examples, you’re helping me make my point about how the progressive tend to make things harder rather than easier.

        1. Yeah, it’s important to distinguish progressives and regular Democrats. Like many other institutions, the Democrat party has been overrun by progressives as part of the long march. But that doesn’t mean every Democrat is a progressive, and we can hope that those that aren’t can take back their party.

          1. While progressives win at the district level because of gerrymandering they get their ass kicked at the national level.

            Moderate liberals always win the presidential nomination from Bill Clinton, Kerry, Obama and Biden (the latter ran against Bernie and the AOC programs).

            Many pols have remarked how the deficit-cutting, free trade Obama is really more like an old school Republican.

            It is the GOP that has gone buck wild Aborto-Freak Bible-beating radical.

            1. Are the “Aborto-Freaks” the ones who want to kill babies or the ones who don’t?

              1. Considering what dildo wants to do with children, maybe they’re better off aborted.

            2. lmao…. Obama cut the deficit???? Like Biden is doing???
              You really do live in a world of complete imagination.

              1. The deficit was over a trillion when Obama entered office and 600 billion something when he left. It’s not hard to find that out.

                1. Good Grief where do you leftard’s get your info? From martians?

                  2008 Deficit – George W Bush’s Last Year (prev better) NOT EVEN $1T…
                  2009-2012 – Obama w/D Congress *ALL* over $1T closer to $2T
                  2013-2016 – Obama w/R Congress (2)yrs over $1T (2) Under.
                  2017-2020 – Trump w/R Congress *ALL* but last under $1T
                  2021 – Biden w/D Congress pushing it up over $6T !!!!!!

                  Those are the numbers – I can’t even find what lefty-hack media you’re all getting your numbers from; imagination?

                2. What’s funny you don’t see that BIG FAT BLATANT REASON Obama’s Second term dropped 1/3… Republicans took over Congress.

      4. Pretty recently. [Progressives have] made it easier

        Yup, progressives make sex, drugs, and crime easier; they even subsidize those choices with other people’s money. Glad you admit it.

        1. I was just going to comment that, “It makes no sense for Congress to (rightly) allow FedEx and UPS to deliver alcohol but not permit USPS to do the same.”

          Actually since; USPS survives on tax-payers it makes tons of sense. Because it essentially makes subsidized alcohol purchases. Frankly it shouldn’t be subsidized at all; but what should-be and what is are two different things.

    4. Also, in many states they made it easier to get on the ballot as a candidate in either general or primary elections, and/or to be a voter.

      They made it easier to divorce.

      1. Progressives in my area made it much easier to choose between two democrat candidates for mayor, rather than entertaining any of those pesky republicans or other party candidates, or independents.

      2. In California, at least, they made it way harder for anybody but a Democrat to win an election, with the “open primary” system. But that’s just in California.

        1. Well, that’s simply not true. I don’t live in California.

          1. Part of Dee’s programming is to pretend that the anti-liberty actions performed by the state are more isolated than they really are. So she thinks attributing bad election laws to places like California, where Democrats are going to win anyway, will minimize what the left is doing all over the country. Because she’s paid to do that.

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        Should I continue?

    5. They made it easier to get away with violent riots.
      They made it easier to shoplift.
      They made it easier to sneak into the US.
      They made it easier for the President’s son to get away with crimes.
      They made it easier to steal elections.
      They made it easier for China to steal US commercial secrets.
      They made it easier to move factory jobs out of the US.
      They made it easier for violent criminals to find unarmed victims.
      They made it easier for the Taliban.
      They made it easier for Russia to sell fossil fuels.
      They made it easier for every other non-US oil company to compete.
      They made it easier for millions of parents to finally realize they need to homeschool.

    6. They’ve made it pretty easy to commit violent crimes and get away with it.

      Fuck Joe Biden.

  2. https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1436688502398328838?s=19

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    1. Sorry I’m not up on the Qanon or boogaloo lingo Nardz, but what does “river to the sea” mean?

      When did I lie or libel you?

        1. If a Muslim quoted the Koran or a Hindu quoted one of their texts you could not get it.

          I’m not Christian, so I don’t know the Bible word for word.

          Doesn’t make me ignorant.

          1. The term isn’t from the Bible, it’s a favorite with people like you, people who want to “KillAllRednecks”.

            1. My names a joke.

              Rednecks are ruining our country, but we need to love other people. Even the ones we don’t get along with.

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            1. Please don’t call me anti-Semitic if you have no evidence of it you convicted child rapist

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                Better?

                1. Likud policy hater would be accurate.

                  1. 4 flags for the asshole

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      1. It must be in the Klan handbook.

        But in general it is Gawd’s promise to the Jews concerning their rightful homeland.

        The myth goes on to say it is the homeland manifested when Jeeby returns and sorts the “good-uns from the bad-uns” on Judgement Day then all the fun eternal torture will begin.

        It is so fucking stupid only Trump trash believe it.

        1. Thank you. I’m not much of a theologian so I didn’t get that it was a biblical reference.

          I thought it was a threat or something.

          1. It isn’t a Bible reference. If you’re getting your theology from Buttplug, then you’re even dumber than I gave you credit for.

            1. In fact it’s almost exactly the opposite of Buttplug’s claim.

              Palestine will be free from the river to the sea”, is a proggy call to eliminate the Jews.
              https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/337807/the-real-meaning-of-from-the-river-to-the-sea/

              1. Ok Nardz is so fucking stupid and crazy I thought he was being cryptic to appear tough.

                1. Maybe don’t be so ignorant on the first place.

                  1. Well now I know. At least I’ll admit when I’m wrong. ML and Nardz just lie and move the goalposts.

                    They’re fascist little cowards.

                2. “Nardz is stupid and crazy because I didn’t know something and say crazy shit about Mormons”

                  Okay?

                  1. I admit I could of looked it up and should of.

                    I thought it was some kind of threat or he was being cryptic to sound tough or some bs.

                    Nardz wants to murder over half the voters in MY COUNTRY because they didn’t vote for his guy. That’s why he’s stupid and crazy.

                    1. Asshole gets four more flags.

                    2. The “should of” is a knock at Nardz.

                      Anyways I’ll take having imperfect grammar over being a lying fascist.

        2. It must be in the Klan handbook
          You’re definitely not wrong for a change, Buttplug. Definitely racist shits shouting it.

          It is so fucking stupid only Trump trash believe it.
          Oh it’s fucking stupid all right, but “xtian Trump Trash” just might not be it’s chanters.

          It’s always a delight to see a fifty-center fuck up so badly.

        3. turd lies. If turd posts it, it is or contains a lie. turd is too stupid to understand the difference between truth and his lies; his dishonesty is a result of his stupidity.
          turd lies; it’s what turd does.

          1. Sevo’s senile
            It’s what Sevo is
            Who knows if he’s off the wagon
            He’s so goddamn senile, where to begin?

    2. Wow, Hillary is *really* short. I never noticed before. 5′-2″?

    1. “German doctors frequently argued that Jews spread disease. Reflecting common themes in Nazi propaganda, these medical professionals repeatedly pushed false claim that Jews were especially responsible for outbreaks of typhus—a deadly contagious disease.” [link]

      1. Well, there’s more to it but piece of shit Reason won’t post it

      2. In defense of the Germans, being Jewish is only ~99.6% effective at preventing you of dying of COVID.

      3. You may not know it, but Jews actually cured typhus outbreaks in WW2 ghettos by figuring out social distancing and promoting hygiene, as best they could.

        Prior to their efforts, the science hasn’t figured out typhus. These poor souls did it without microscopes or sanitizing chemicals. Just ingenuity.

  3. Never bet against an alliance of puritan Karens and crony capitalists.

  4. Fuck Joe Biden. Do not comply.

  5. Hmm…I guess we’re not doing the topic of the post.

    Which isn’t as scary as the medical-authoritarianism stuff, but really, do you want the Post Office delivering your likker to the wrong address?

    1. “Mommy, this package is addressed to the neighbors.”

      “No, it’s not, honey, and if you don’t tell the neighbors Mommy will let you have swig from this before she finishes it off.”

      1. With my postman, anything that sloshes would become “lost mail”. He already takes an hour every day to deliver my next door neighbor’s mail to her back door.

        If several private sector companies have worked out the details and have a superior overall delivery rate, I don’t need to see USPS get further emmeshed in the delivery process or put another crimp in another quasi-government organization. The need is served. I don’t recall having an Amazon package of mine delivered to the wrong address, yet my neighbor and I have a daily meeting to exchange mail.

        It’s a far bigger deal to get the government OUT of the liquor business itself. Around here, you aren’t going into a Walmart, Costco or other private liquor store to replenish your hootch. For that you have to visit a State owned ABC store because they are the only ones they license and trust to sell it. Nothing like having the government using it’s own power to enforce its own monopoly. You violate that government right and you’ll do serious time.

        Not surprisingly, just two miles away over the State line, several companies have built thriving businesses offering lower priced product.

        1. Very different from our mail delivery person, who seems to be autistic. She would never mix up or miss a delivery, but you do not want to incur her wrath if you park in front of a mailbox. Or try to have a conversation with her.

          1. So your mail lady doesn’t like you either.

        2. The whole dynamic of state liquor stores has the same mixed incentives as “sin taxes”: the government is supposedly imposing taxes on a vice to discourage it, but soon becomes dependent on the revenue from the vice.

          Our state government debated whether to close the state liquor stores during the pandemic lockdowns, and decided to would not be good to have a bunch of alcoholics going through withdrawal all at once. (Or maybe they just realized they’d lose a bunch of revenue.)

          1. Or maybe a bunch of angry alcoholics would descend upon the capitol.

          2. My State did this too. Evidently, drinking bleach for COVID-19 is bad (and rightly so,) but drinking Everclear does wonders as long as the ABC Store is The Good Doctor.

            My State alsk has a similarly schizzy policy with the “Education Lottery.” It has a lottery, yet at the same time advertises on each ticket and kiosk: “Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLINGBUG” or words to that effect. (The anti-gambling clinic is prolly run by the State or private crony Quacks who get kickbacks.)

            And goodness knows, our Gummint Skhoolz aren’t good at teaching about probabilities, so effectively, the allegedly virtuous State has a vested interest in keeping the PowerBall rolling.

            1. Yeah, I think that describes the lottery in every state.

        3. With my postman, anything that sloshes would become “lost mail”. He already takes an hour every day to deliver my next door neighbor’s mail to her back door.

          Are you sure it’s mail he’s delivering to her “back door?”
          AR!-AR!-AR! 😉

    2. Stay in topic and comment on the article?!

      “Congress effectively prohibits the U.S. Postal Service from transporting beer, wine, or spirits directly to consumers. Such shipments must be made through FedEx, UPS, and other private shippers, which are often more expensive than USPS.”

      This seems like a good state of things to this libertarian. The private companies are likely shipping the liquor at cost plus a reasonable profit, whereas shipping via USPS is likely subsidized.

      I’d be fine with the USPS not shipping any packages at all.

      1. That is literally the first libertarian thing I think I’ve seen you write.

        1. Well, thank you. There have been others, but you just happened to miss them.

          1. Sarcasmic pushes the same lie.

        2. It benefits his pocket book. It is also why he ignores slave labor in China.

        3. “That is literally the first libertarian thing I think I’ve seen you write.”

          Broken clocks

      2. Besides, what would be the specialty libation of the USPS anyway?…

        Sloe (Slow) Gin? 😉

        I’ll be here all week. Try the frozen veal shipped from Omaha Steaks!

        1. Talk about de-livered.

          1. Ooooh, that one hurt!

            Fortunately, I checked the Omaha Steaks Menu and they sell Calves’ Liver and Onions for replacement…as well as a nice Chiant-ie!

            F-F-F-F-F-F-F!

    3. Impossible. The narcs and SWAT First Responders™ never kick in the wrong door and shoot the wrong dog and homesteaders. But the whole idea of decreeing an unconstitutional postal monopoly was to make Republican Comstock laws into eugenic, protective tariff and prohibition enforcement tools. “Ban The Beer” Bert Hoover included the Postmaster General or his assistant in his every meeting with drug prohibition enforcement fanatics.

      1. I bet you had soup for supper didn’t you?

        1. Applesauce for dessert.

          1. I love that he mentioned Comstock too.

            1. It’s a good brand name for pie filling, not good at all for the regulation of other sorts of “pie.”

              Granted, the Comstock Law has been effectively de-fanged by The Supremee and didn’t touch everything that exists, but it was an ominous and dangerous law and Hank is doing a good thing to ring the Plague Bell and ward away any future returns.

              1. Pretty sure old Hank knew Anthony Comstock as a child. Also, old Hank seems to think that the future for Comstock Law is still with Christian religiosity, rather than coming from those groovy feminist chicks he used to know.

        2. Now, now. Soup for supper is better than BATFE pancakes at a seige.

      2. The Postal monopoly over letter mail came in 1851 after Lysander Spooner showed up the USPS and sent letters faster and for less.

        This, combined with the Slave States desire to censor Abolitionist literature, is what sealed (so to speak) the fate of U.S. mail service, then the Comstock Act, tariffs, and Prohibition kicked in later, making mail even more stringently controlled.

    4. I don’t want my tax dollars going to subsidize anyone’s liquor habit, via USPS.

      Let them have to pay more or use the local stores that contribute to the tax base. No reason I should have to be taxed more so that they can save money.

  6. So has anybody than that one (IIRC) Australian health minister admitted that there is no end game here other than the imposition of a new world order, that the pandemic and the emergency orders emanating from it is never going to end? We already know the vaccines don’t work in that you can be double- and triple-vaccinated and yet you still have to wear a mask (or two), still have to socially distance, still cannot gather in large groups, still have restrictions put on your travel and other daily routines. Yet “get vaccinated” is still the only message they’re pushing. As the virus mutates, the vaccines are going to become less and less effective, what are they working on for a treatment or a cure for the virus? At what point are we just going to have to accept that the virus is here to stay and we’re going to have to learn to just live with it and get on with our lives? Never? Is that their plan, has that been their plan all along? Orwell asked us to imagine a future with a boot stamping on a human face – forever. I think the future might be here.

    1. Those Chinese communist germ lab technicians really know how to wage a biological attack. Japanese submarine I-29 was carrying influenza virus specimens when sunk in July 1944 (according to Code Girls author Lisa Mundy), so the tactic is no newer today than it was in 1918 or 1944.

      1. You do realize that Japanese and Chinese people are different, don’t you? And that they were enemies back then.

        1. His post doesn’t contradict any of that bird.

        2. Do you know what a non sequitur is?

        3. Uh hilk… Germans were depicted as germ warriors in 1918 political cartoons, the same Germans expelled from Japanese-controlled ports in China AND Japan in WW1. Much of China was to Japan as Vichy France was to Germany after June 1940.

        4. All part of the Asian cawntinent.

    2. “As the virus mutates, the vaccines are going to become less and less effective, what are they working on for a treatment or a cure for the virus?”

      Yes and yes. Read an article recently. The team leader working at Pfizer on the mutations and how they are approaching the challenge. Yes they are working.

      There are very few people in the world who can do this kind of work.

      1. There are very few people in the world who can do this kind of work.

        Not at all. There are loads of people who could do this work. There are very few people who’ve worked their connections to get themselves to the top so that they could be draw parallels between COVID and influenza and then squeeze every last drop of profit out of morons by selling a series of monovalent vaccines when multvalent vaccines is how we’ve (failed) to treat influenza for years.

  7. Shouldn’t the headline be “Let’s make it easier for adult consumers to distill their own alcohol”?

    1. That was the whole point of the 18th Amendment. It shoved breweries and distilleries out of the picture, and newspapers and magazines tilled up with ads for Karo syrup, Hubinger Brothers, Corn Products Hershey’s corn sugar, Fleischmann’s yeast and Anheuser Busch and Pabst malt extract. German submarines cut off sugar and the Glucose Trust grew fat enough off the resulting oligopsony to buy sufficient politicians to use the Constitution as a marketing tool. Mystics believed it was God’s miracle, and it did not ban drinking, only trade, production and transportation.

    2. I’m not opposed to that so long as we also include a provision that when your trailer blows up from the combo of heat and alcohol vapor, you also cover the cost of putting out the fire and don’t raise the cost of my insurance by submitting a claim. I’m more of the libertarian view, “feel free to do as you like so long as you don’t ask me to rehab you or step over, let alone bury your body, or raise your spawn.”

      The reality of it is that making gin isn’t as fast as it sounds, and those who think otherwise are likely getting their ideas from Hawk and Beej on MASH, or the kind that think it’s silly to waste all that heat coming off the grill, so bring it inside.

      Those remainder who actually have the desire and intelligence to pull this off for the small pittance of liquor they use, probably already do it for the hobby value because really is pretty easy. They just don’t tell everyone they know about it.

      Gotta remember about moonshine = = Only the chronically lucky or intelligent survived, and it’s an activity that doesn’t pay off except either in satisfaction or when you produce in a lot larger volume than you and your kin will consume. That said, I still know an old timer in N Georgia who is quite an artiste and produces a very high quality product from peaches.

      1. I have multiple friends micro distill. It isnt fucking cooking meth.

      2. “Only the chronically lucky or intelligent survived…”
        I’m sure that had nothing to do with the bullets being slung at them by federal revenuers and gangsters alike.

        The thing to remember about distilling in general is that the bar to entry and the penalties for experimentation are so high it makes people think it’s much more difficult than it really is.

    3. Distilling one’s own alcohol seems like a canonical example of a personal activity not to bother asking the government to approve.

  8. Lest you forget, Fuck Joe Biden.

    1. Fuck Joe Biden. Fuck Trump. Fuck you.

      1. Fuck TDS-addled assholes. With Biden’s dick.

  9. “Though the USPS shipping ban in Congress is a wholly federal matter, state shipping bans stem largely from states’ authority to regulate alcohol under the 21st Amendment.”

    Would the USPS still have to obey state alcohol laws?

    Here’s the relevant language from the 21st Amendment, Sec. 2:

    “The transportation or importation into any state, territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited.”

    There is nothing in there which says “except for the U. S. Postal Service.”

    So I’d think the Postal Service would have to obey state importation laws.

    1. Ah, here we are:

      “The U.S. district courts shall have jurisdiction to render judgment upon any claim brought by a state, local, or tribal government against the USPS of a violation of state, local, or tribal law regarding the sale, mailing, transportation, or importation of alcoholic beverages into any U.S. state, territory, or district. The USPS shall not be liable for interest prior to judgment or for punitive damages.”

      https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3287

      (Oi, again with the states appearing in federal district courts)

  10. Sections 2 and 3 of the 21st Amendment ought not to be there, since what FDR voters wanted was Section 1 (repeal 18A). Texas is using a barratry and SLAPP suit variant of this dangling 18A remora in order to weaponize the Klan, and Protestant White Terrors into terrorizing women’s health care providers. An honest Atlas Shrugged amendment would fix that: Congress shall make no laws restricting the freedom of production and trade.

    1. I see they shipped the liquor to *you* already.

    2. >>”Congress shall make no laws restricting the freedom of production and trade.”

      So you’re actually arguing FOR the right to sell your children, or perhaps buying someone else’s is your thing? Extortion, cons, bribery, kidnapping [so long as it’s for ransom]. Or anything else so long as there is a dollar exchanged. Banks can do to consumers what they want and buying/selling votes and political favors is A-OK!

      I hesitate to suggest that the question, “And then…?” be referred to as a critical thinking exercise for those over the age of 4, but sometimes adults have just skipped right over tic tac toe thinking, and moved right to copy/pasting legal terms to sound scholarly.

      Best of luck to you.

      1. Naturally, a Constitutional Amendment recognizing the right to production and trade has to be within the bounds of the 9th Amendment and not deny or disparage the Individual Rights to Life, Liberty, and Property of others.

        1. I fear you’re wasting your time. The hand wringing is strong in this one.

          1. Hand-wringing or Strawman-making? This peeson seems to be doing the latter.

      2. “buying/selling votes and political favors is A-OK!”

        Do you spend much time in the sunlight? Have you even looked at any recent legislation? Why do you suppose that the $3.5T spending package has $12,500 rebates for electric vehicles built in the US but only for those built with union labor? Deduct $5,000 for non-union built EVs in case you were wondering. I admit it’s a funny way to buy votes but it’s certainly a political favor to the unions.

        It also might violate the equal protection clause but I ain’t no lawyer. It’s also funny how the news broke on a Friday allowing the entire weekend to avoid the week long water cooler/coffee maker talk. Assuming all have their vaccination cards are are allowed to chat.

        1. Sorry, it’s a tax credit not a rebate proper so poor people who don’t pay that much in taxes need not apply.

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  12. George W. Bush compares 9/11 hijackers to Jan 6 Trump Trash in speech today:

    There is little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home. But in their disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols, they are children of the same foul spirit. And it is our continuing duty to confront them.

    When you’ve lost Bush you’ve gone to far to the pro-fascist extreme.

    1. So you’re a Bush cock sucker now?

      Fuck you Bushpig.

      1. I would guess Bush fucked his wife with Obama’s dick. Certainly not Clinton’s or Biden’s. One is diseased, the other is flaccid.

    2. Pretty sure that the Trump crowd lost “W” back in 2016, when Trump told Jeb in the debates that his brother was a warmonger.

      It’s like Buttplug can’t remember shit that happened more than a month ago.

    3. “When you’ve lost Bush you’ve gone to far to the pro-fascist extreme”

      Wait. So you’re saying when you’ve lost the support of a president who got America involved in two major imperialistic conquests, and brought in the Department of Homeland Security you’ve gone to far to the pro-fascist extreme?
      And what “facist extreme” would that be? The Abraham accords? DPRK rapproachment? The peace deal with the Taliban? The First Step Act? Dropping the TPP?

    4. When you’ve lost Bush you’ve gone to far to the pro-fascist extreme.

      “If Hitler disapproves of your actions, you must be doing something wrong.” – SPBP2

      I was going to add an “… or Jewish.” but, alas, SPBP2 is just not that bright.

    5. turd lies; that’s all turd does.

  13. I thought I’d make a 9/11 related remark.

    We hanged Bin Laden from a sour apple tree, and who knows how many second-in-commands we killed.

    If another country gives someone like him sanctuary again, declare war (via Congress) invade and bomb them until they stop doing it, then grab the terrorists and leave.

    Don’t try and impose a women’s studies department in every university. That’s not even worth fighting for in America, much less in a foreign country where U. S. soldiers are being asked to risk their lives.

    1. True, that. The Military’s proper purpose for a free society is to kill people and break things from abroad that threaten the Life, Liberty, and Property of U.S. Citizens, not to “change hearts and minds,” “nation-build,” or serve as an International Meals-On-Wheels.

      While this doesn’t categorically mean no intervention whatsoever, it does demand that any time spent overseas be defensive or retaliatory only, swift and certain in execution, total in destruction of the enemy, and followed by getting the Hell out ASAP!

  14. What do you call a bottle of Manischewitz with a flaming rag in the top?
    A Mazel tov cocktail.

    1. That’s truly awful, *giggle*

    2. Instead of “L’Chaim!” the toast is “L’Chumby!”

      You are a Righteous Dude!

  15. Great the world is going to shit because of incompetence in the federal government and idiots who refuse to get vaccinated …

    But at least we can drink ourselves to death. Fun!

    1. I thought the latest narrative was that the vaccines don’t do anything and you need to have 50 boosters?

      1. You are partially correct. To be a good party member you must know (and preach to others) that (1) the vaccine is a miraculous cure that everyone must accept, and (2) any contact with the unvaccinated will lead to painful death, even if you are vaccinated.

        Clever religions always require demonstrations of extraordinary faith, including logical contradictions.

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    2. “Great the world is going to shit because of incompetence in the federal government and idiots who refuse to get vaccinated ….”

      No, asshole, it’s going to shit as a result of fucking lslvers like you.
      Fuck off and die.

  16. Wrong answer. The correct answer is to privatize the post office.

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