Eviction Moratorium

Supreme Court Says Private Property Rights and Separation of Powers Do Still Exist in U.S.

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The U.S. Supreme Court has struck down the Biden administration's eviction moratorium extension. In a 6–3 ruling, the Court held that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) doesn't have the authority "to promulgate and extend the eviction moratorium."

The CDC claimed the Public Health Service Act gave them such authority. But that law specifically mentions measures like "inspection, fumigation, disinfection, sanitation, pest extermination, and destruction of contaminated animals and articles"—things that "directly relate to preventing the interstate spread of disease by identifying, isolating, and destroying the disease itself," the Court notes, continuing:

The CDC's moratorium, on the other hand, relates to interstate infection far more indirectly: If evictions occur, some subset of tenants might move from one State to another, and some subset of that group might do so while infected with COVID–19… This downstream connection between eviction and the interstate spread of disease is markedly different from the direct targeting of disease that characterizes the measures identified in the statute. Reading both sentences together, rather than the first in isolation, it is a stretch to maintain that §361(a) gives the CDC the authority to impose this eviction moratorium.

The ruling "is technically a procedural one, not a final decision on the merits of the case," explains Volokh Conspiracy blogger and George Mason University professor Ilya Somin. But "it nonetheless makes clear that a majority of justices believe the new version of the moratorium is illegal. In addition, the Supreme Court's reinstatement of the district court ruling against the moratorium may well have nationwide consequences, not limited to the specific parties in this case."

"Even if tonight's decision does not immediately put an end to the moratorium, it does create a precedent that lower court judges will likely use to rule against the CDC in all the other cases challenging the moratorium around the country," Somin adds.

In any event, the ruling is an important affirmation that private property rights still exist in this country.

It's also a good stand for the separation of powers. Congress can still pass a law extending the eviction moratorium—it's just unconstitutional for the executive branch to unilaterally make this decision. "We expect Congress to speak clearly when authorizing an agency to exercise powers of 'vast "economic and political significance,"'" the Court's opinion states.

Whether supporters of the moratorium are being disingenuous or just ignorant is hard to gauge, but many have been suggesting that the Supreme Court's ruling is somehow undemocratic. Ha! What's actually undemocratic is letting bureaucrats at the CDC make this decision instead of democratically elected officials.

"The Government's read…would give the CDC a breathtaking amount of authority," the Court points out. "It is hard to see what measures this interpretation would place outside the CDC's reach, and the Government has identified no limit in §361(a) beyond the requirement that the CDC deem a measure 'necessary.'"

"Could the CDC, for example, mandate free grocery delivery to the homes of the sick or vulnerable?" the Court asks.

Require manufacturers to provide free computers to enable people to work
from home? Order telecommunications companies to pro
vide free high-speed Internet service to facilitate remote work? This claim of expansive authority under §361(a) is unprecedented. Since that provision's enactment in 1944, no regulation premised on it has even begun to approach the size or scope of the eviction moratorium. And it is further  amplified by the CDC's decision to impose criminal penalties of up to a $250,000 fine and one year in jail on those who violate the moratorium.

Some critics of the Court's decision may very well wish President Joe Biden's CDC had this kind of power. But it's shortsighted to imagine that only administrations you like will wield extensive and authoritarian new powers once granted.

Notably, much of the rental assistance money that Congress granted to ease the eviction moratorium's burden has not been distributed. "The $46.5 billion rental aid program created to pay rent accrued during the pandemic continues to disburse money at a slow pace," The New York Times reported earlier this week. For instance, New York state had distributed just over 1 percent of its allocated funds.


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Biden continues to have a spine about Afghanistan. The president—long an avatar of conventional wisdom, whichever way it blows—is actually refusing to give in to the warmongering hordes who insist that yesterday's tragic terrorist attack in Kabul somehow magically makes keeping American troops there wise. Meanwhile, media that largely ignored Afghanistan for years now give a voice to endless schlock about our deeds there, and partisan hacks who praised former President Donald Trump for negotiating with the Taliban and announcing the troop withdrawal from Afghanistan have been leaping at the chance to score opportunistic points against Democrats and/or reestablish their warmongering bona fides.

It was bad since last week, and even worse with the attack in Kabul yesterday by members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant–Khorasan Province. For instance, Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.)—who profusely praised Trump's withdrawal plans, and continued to praise withdrawal as recently as April—is now calling on Biden to resign. A number of other Republicans have done the same.

Certainly, the Biden administration has made mistakes in the way it has handled the withdrawal, particularly when it comes to getting out Americans and Afghan allies. (There are certainly lots of opportunities for the administration to continue to go wrong, too.) But it's nothing more than self-serving claptrap to pretend that there was a way it could have done this that would've left things in Afghanistan humming along perfectly or without any of the upheaval and violence we're now seeing.

These disturbing incidents are a shining indication of the lies at the center of our project in Afghanistan and a symptom of how badly we failed all along, not a reason to senselessly stay the course.


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  1. Supreme Court Says Private Property Rights and Separation of Powers Do Still Exist in U.S.

    Well, 6/3rds say that.

    1. “In dissent, Justice Breyer [joined by Kagen and Sotomayor] wrote that “the public interest is not favored by the spread of disease or a court’s second-guessing of the C.D.C.’s judgment.”

      I have not read his dissent, but did they even consider the constitutionality of a government agency cancelling the ability of property owners to collect rent? Seems like it is much more about just “doing the ‘right’ thing” than anything to do with fundamental rights.

      1. The CDC does not nor did it have the power to cancel rents.
        Neither did mayors and governors have the power to lock down entire states.

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        2. Governments have the power to cancel rents, lock down entire states, force medical procedures on unwilling people and anything else that citizens put up with.

          Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.

          …Frederick Douglass

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      2. The liberal justices are such pieces of shit. Just going to say that. They don’t even believe in a limiting principle. They just believe government is always right and is not to be second guessed. Well…. unless they imagine racial animus like under trump.

        1. Deserves a repeat, “liberal justices are such pieces of shit”
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        2. They are, first and foremost, activists. They see their role on the court not as one of constraining the government, but of empowering the government to pursue what they view to be socially and morally positive results — with little to no regard of the costs these morality crusades impose upon real people. The sole exception to this rule is criminal cases where minorities are adversely impacted; in which case the liberal activists rule to protect the races with whom they feel politically aligned.

      3. “the public interest is not favored by the spread of disease or a court’s second-guessing of the C.D.C.’s judgment.”

        This is quite frankly bullshit. We might trust the “CDC’s Judgement” that there will be health impact from people being evicted. But no one in their right mind could suggest that CDC has the data to know whether that outweighs the economic impact of millions of mortgages going into default.

        And that is besides the fact of whether or not it is constitutional for any part of the government (congress or executive) to force you to quarter people on your property against your will and without compensation.

        1. In the core of every progressive is a totalitarian. Why have any form of government, especially a big, comprehensive, and intrusive government, if they can’t use it to both define and then strive for “the public interest”?

          I suspect for some progressives, there is no intellectual or practical distinction between COVID health risks, green issues, intersectional racism, and economic inequity. And no pause before demanding complete legal and social control to remake us in their ideological image.

          1. “In the core of every progressive is a totalitarian.”

            It’s not their core, it’s their entire being.

          2. “I suspect for some progressives, there is no intellectual or practical distinction between COVID health risks, green issues, intersectional racism, and economic inequity.”

            Which is why its no surprise that their answer for all of these problems is always the same…more government power, more government money wasted, more mandates, more control over the serfs, and a need for submitting to their govt for what they are defining as the public good on any given day.

            Also the squad hoes frequently mix and match all of the above problems as interrelated. “Climate change and its disparate effect on minorities” etc etc. Its no surprise they essentially have the same solution for all their “problems”

        2. There was a case to be made for agreeing to one for, say, 3 months in the early days of the pandemic, with how many people got their jobs nuked. After that, it should have been debated in Congress, or left to the states to determine.

          The deadbeats are going to have to get off their ass and find a job now, or buy a tent and get ready to fight with the paranoid schizophrenics in the homeless tent colonies over dumpster food.

          1. And again, this goes back to the whole “Breaking Bad” theory of government. If we go all the way back to the root cause- locking down the country- all these compounding bad decisions wouldn’t be necessary. The reason this is a problem today is that, just as Cranston insisted on selling meth, our Government insists it has the right to imprison people in their homes. It is absurd.

          2. The governors that shut down jobs should be on the hook for the costs.

        3. ah, the “public interest” exception. I missed that one in the Bill of Rights.

      4. It’s amazing how many people think the government can do whatever it wants as long as they agree with the ends.

      5. Defending basic Constitutional rights is now considered “second guessing the bureaucracy” by a Supreme Court Justice?

        How come we can’t recall them?

        1. we can – its called impeachment.
          That being said, it was just an incredible outing of their total lack of fealty to the constitution.

      6. Doesn’t a good judge enforce the law whether they approve of it or not?

    2. And given how long it’s taken to get that far, it would be fair to add “…but they can’t be bothered to enforce them” on the end of the headline.

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  2. Biden continues to have a spine about Afghanistan.

    His investments have shifted from defense contractors to pharmaceutical companies.

    1. You can tell by the way he is hunched over when walking away from the press.

      1. You guys are exacerbating as hell. Fucking crazy mfers taking horse pills and malaria medicine but not a vaccine. You guys are driving people crazy. Killing and otherwise fucking yourselves over in the process. I’m over it mostly. I’m just amazed.

        1. Meh, I’ve done none of that. You sound hysterical.

          1. Yep. In need of an intervention, or a medical crisis support team.

          2. Poor Strazele has had a really hard week, so cut it some slack. The Dem Underground boards are full of little man-children complaining that the rest of the country doesn’t share their delusions. And so they need to invent even bigger delusions about why even CNN disagrees with them.

            They are essentially no different from flat earthers at this point- piling rationalization over rationalization over cherrypicked story over interpretation to explain why the majority of the country’s own eyes are deceiving them.

        2. Strawmannnnn. Japan approved IVQ. Here’s a site that does comprehensive meta-analysis for IVQ showing that there is a case for it: https://ivmmeta.com/
          HCQ also shows promise, but I haven’t seen anything as comprehensive as the site above. Just various studies showing some marginal prophylactic benefits. Both are available to humans and have been for a long time. The detailed mechanics are not well understood for either (that’s true for most medicine. Seriously, look up how much we know about anesthesia), but the general theory is that they exhibit a mild immune suppression effect that may help prevent the worst effects of Covid if given in small doses early on.

          Your framing of the vaccine is also pretty damn disingenuous. I’m vaccinated for literally like everything, but this is a different thing. The mRNA technology is new and, at this point, is only proven by 6 months of a 2 year study which has been unblinded, has only had ~15% of the study documents released, and does not have a sufficient sample size to detect rare events with such a low prevalence (at any given time) infection. Anyone who says they have all the answers is a liar. In the face of uncertainty, people should at least be able to choose whether they want to wait and see or not.

          1. It seems a common tactic from Sullum and the like. Dehumanize, belittle, bully, and de-legitimize through weaponizing of words like “Science” to those that disagree.

            1. Yep. Science as dogma. Pretty frustrating.

        3. Lol. You don’t know what exacerbate means. Fucking idiot.

        4. Nope, but I do sometimes eat horse breakfast (oats).

        5. Science-denier believes medicine is magic.

        6. I thought Lord of Strazele was Sullum. Man, he sure is triggered.

        7. You’re psychotic, and fit to be put down like a rabid possum

          1. And seethe.

        8. Time to seal yourself into the house again with plastic sheeting and duct tape.

        9. I’m glad an authoritarian dipshit like you finds us exacerbating. It means that we’re all on the right track.

        10. Exacerbating? Jesus Christ Jakie, you’re supposed to be a fucking editor.

          Btw, have you gotten your 4th jab yet? The 95% effective Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine requires lots and lots of boosters.

        11. doesnt sound like you’re over it…
          just sayin’

        12. “Rants like little bitch”…

          “I’m over it mostly. ”

          You are mostly triggered. Sorry personal freedom is such a problem for you. Maybe another country would be a better fit. Were you one of the ones suggesting moving to Canada in 16? Maybe its time, the people up there are much more docile and compliant. Probably a better fit for a pussy that bootlicks totalitarians.

        13. The horse pulls are more effective than the vaccine based on Israel’s most recent data lmao.

          You should try some sources besides CNN.

        14. Holy shit take your meds.

    2. He might have a spine but his brain betrayed him.

  3. Certainly, the Biden administration has made mistakes in the way it has handled the withdrawal, particularly when it comes to getting out Americans and Afghan allies.

    And luckily Taliban forces won’t have to resort to firing a shotgun from their porch. They’ll have more advanced US weaponry than that.

    1. “Mistakes were made”, let’s move on shall we?

      1. THAT WAS LIKE 4, 5 DAYS AGO! COME ON MAN!

  4. I posted this earlier but it bares repeating:

    The Americans in Afghanistan were told to leave multiple times.

    Since March of this year, the State Department has sent 19 messages to Americans in Afghanistan telling them to leave. Warning them. Offering to pay for them to leave.

    — Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) August 25, 2021

    1. They should be denied health care.

    2. Joe Walsh is great.

      Now of course some Drumpf supporters point to the fact that in 2016 he tweeted he would “grab his musket” if Hillary Clinton won. But I’m sure his evolution into #Resistance icon has been entirely sincere.

      1. Life’s been good to him so far.

        1. Just an ordinary average guy.

    3. Guess they should just fuck off and die, then.

      You’re a fucking animal.

    4. What did the administration (in and out of Afghanistan) say publicly?

      So, then you put the people in the position of deciding which is the lie …

      1. Isn’t it nice to know that norms are restored? Norms being “leave Americans as hostages”

    5. The government never lies, sullum/strazele version 2.0. Now explain it from a libertarian standpoint, or a leadership standpoint, or an ethical responsibility standpoint. Or, for the bonus, since there has been no briefing from the administration that hasn’t mentioned them, explain how this should be viewed by the women and families still there?

    6. Let’s read the warnings. Because at exactly the same time, the state department was delaying visas of the Afghans. And at the exact same time, Biden was insisting that there was no way 300,000 Afghan soldiers would lose the country in a matter of weeks. At the exact same time, the US Intelligence services were signaling that there was still 90 days or so.

    7. Yup, it’s all THEIR fault that Biden fucked up royally.

    8. And citing Joe Walsh? Seriously?

      1. I heard he lost license, now he can’t drive.

        1. but he has a limo, rides in the back
          he locks the doors in case he’s attacked

          1. Life’s been good to him so far!

          2. Just an ordinary, average guy.

    9. How about telling Americans in America to get jobs multiple times?

      Equally inconvenient?

    10. Lol, “but the emails” coming from the left now. Good shit.

    11. It should be “bears,” not “bares.”

    12. So what you’re saying is that Biden lied about the capability of the Afghan Army to hold things together long enough for his dumb photo op? Or did he fuck up by pushing the withdrawal back to 9/11 instead of the original May deadline his predecessor negotiated?

      Make up your mind, dumbfuck.

  5. So when the cdc violates the supream court there punishment will be execution right? Haha no nothing will happen to the totalitarians

    1. I think that the individuals at the CDC should be held personally responsible for paying the back rent. Only fair.

    2. Who is the Supreme Court to second guess a federal bureaucracy?

  6. The California Senate-passed bill to legalize possessing psychedelics like LSD, psilocybin & MDMA will NOT get an Assembly floor vote this year.

    Phew. I was worried that the prohibition industrial complex had lost its pull.

    1. lmao Oh Fist, you still got it, even after all these years.

    2. they need to figure out the taxes, and what they can offer the numerous Dem psychiatrists who prescribe all the ineffective alternatives

    1. I know I feel safe with such a brilliant commander in chief in the White House.

    2. Yeah but the Democrats increased the minimum wage right?

  7. Vice President Kamala Harris continues to poll badly.

    At least she’ll probably be able to carry California for the party.

    1. But she does well on the pole.

      1. She has the endorsement of Willie Brown!

        1. Willie Brown, she’s younger than your daughter…

        2. or is it the endorsement of Brown’s Willie?

  8. Floording in Tennessee killed 20 Americans the other day. A hurricane is on its way to Louisiana right now. Fires out west are burning out of control. Can we deal with our own problems? Is that too much to ask?

    1. Your mother doesn’t even like your writing sullum, but if you think you can control the weather go for it.
      Except for Cali, let it burn, they have only themselves to blame

      1. Good we can start by rebuilding those houses in Tennessee.

        1. Maybe the states should start bearing the cost of their own emergency management and do some hazard mitigation, instead of relying of the federal tit to save their asses for known hazards that they failed to mitigate.

        2. That’s what insurance is for.

          1. Insurance is only for blm arson now.

              1. They didn’t build that/earn that/etc.

        3. And you will be the first to volunteer to help, packed right now and out the door! Or, no, just concern trolling and throwing chaff.

        4. It’s amazing how caring and sympathetic you are to flyover yokels when you can mount their graves for use as a pulpit, Jakie.

    2. Holy crap! It rained in some places, but not others? We are in deep now!

      1. I know! I got wet while I walked my dog this morning! Holy fuck the sky is literally falling I tell ya!

      2. Climate change, don’t you know.
        We must nationalize all assets to deal with this unprecedented emergency.

    3. Don’t worry. The democrats you support are working hard to take away your freedoms so you can feel a tiny bit safer.

    4. Holy shit do you realize how desperate you sound? “Please can we change the subject from the utter humiliation my party is suffering right now?”

    5. The jugfuck of a withdrawal is ‘our’ problem, in that between Biden and Milley, they have made it an American problem. Feel free to volunteer in Tennessee, Louisiana, or California, if those areas are so deeply concerning to you.

    6. “Floording, Hurricane, Fires… Can we deal with our own problems? Is that too much to ask?”

      “NOOOOO! DON’T LOOK AT THE MAN MADE DISASTER!!! Look over there, it’s Mother Nature, and she’s doing stuff!”

      Does anyone here honestly still believe these guys aren’t fifty-centers?

      1. Strazele is literally Jakie Sullum, outed himself a couple months ago. Turns out poor Chuckie Koch is getting absolutely fucking hosed.

        1. “Turns out poor Chuckie Koch is getting absolutely fucking hosed.”

          What did he get out of that Soros deal anyway? Freedom from lefties screaming about how evil Koch and Koch Enterprises was that good of a thing that you had to do this?

          It’s just sad.

      2. Dogs and cats….living together!

    7. Floording? Jesus Christ Jakie, you’re supposed to be a fucking editor.

    8. can we walk and chew gum at the same time?

  9. “Biden continues to have a spine”
    Enb this is why all libritarians call you a progressive shill.

    And the you give poll, how many Republicans think that the US should stay until we pull out civilians and equipment, and not as a global statement, or is that too reasonable to ask?

    1. She’s a stupid bitch that pretends to be a journalist. Mistakes were made…,,

  10. Cathy Young critiques the anti-liberal right.

    She may be on point here, but I had to mute her on Twitter. The pandemic broke her to the point she became a poster child for the pajama class. I can’t imagine she’s regained her senses yet.

    1. What I love is that she condemns a conservative for noting how idiotic it is to try and bring in US-style feminism into Afghanistan.

      It WAS blatantly idiotic.

      Also, to quote the progs, 100% pure cultural imperialism.

  11. “Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.)—who profusely praised Trump’s withdrawal plans, and continued to praise withdrawal as recently as April—is now calling on Biden to resign. A number of other Republicans have done the same.”

    Gotta wonder about Republicans who want a Kamala Harris Presidency…

    1. At least she isn’t senile.

      1. That is not a good thing; while we should heed Obama’s warning to “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up” [prescient, no?] Harris would manage to do much worse.

        1. Every progressive I know thinks Harris is wonderful. They brush aside any criticism of her, even pointing out her attempt to keep convicts in prison past the ends of their sentences as free (slave) labor, as racism and misogyny. It does make me wonder whether a Harris presidency is exactly the right albatross to hang around their necks.

    2. Meh. Same policy committee. Different puppet.

      1. ^committee or star chamber?^

    3. It would fully guarantee 2022. Even liberals hate her.

      1. (Dominion has entered the game)

        I really hope Ken’s faith in 2022 is justified.

    4. I love that mentality of “If you agree with a POLICY, you MUST agree with the execution of it”

      I support letting people drink water. I oppose you drowning them.

      1. It shouldn’t have to be repeated, but since lefties never argue in good faith, it must, yet again:

        The withdrawal wasn’t the issue. Biden and his team going on brain-lock and turning it into a clusterfuck is the problem. They’ve issued so many lies and so many contradictory narratives about it that literally nothing they say can be taken at face value. They’re either lying or trying to cover their ass.

        We saw the President of the United States go into the fetal position yesterday because he doesn’t have the resilience or the clarity of mind to handle the events, and the cabal can’t manipulate the Taliban to just sit back and let the Big Guy have his shining Hollywood moment.

        Lastly, I’m not even buying that this was an ISIS attack. That whole thing has the foul stench of the CIA and its contractors all over it.

        1. Sure ruined the “no American lives lost” talking point they’d decided on a few days ago.

          1. It would be halarious if the state department revoked their citizenship post mortom to keep that true

            1. Nice to know that Milley is saying they shut down Bagram because Biden wanted the embassy fully defended with no additional troops.

              So this was 100% Biden’s fuck up.

        2. “That whole thing has the foul stench of the CIA and its contractors all over it.”

          You might be right, but the stated reason—that the US won’t leave if the Taliban/ISIS/Evil Fairy Godmothers kill enough people leaving Kabul—is incorrect, I think. We’re not coming back even if they borrow a Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator from Marvin, and waste everyone at Karzai.

          It’ll be written off, just like the Marines in Beirut. Though I don’t know who will play the role of Grenada in the subsequent farce. Probably us.

    5. “So, you supported a plan that called for withdrawal on an agreed-upon deadline of May 1st with a plan to extract civilian personnel, but now you have some kind of problem with a president who shitcanned that plan, broke a treaty, moved the withdrawal date, and is leaving thousands of Americans at the mercy of Islamic fundamentalists? WHAT KIND OF A HYPOCRITE ARE YOU!”

      Elizabath Nolan Brown is the fucking poster child for why women have been treated as idiotic children for the vast majority of human history.

    6. She’s the tie breaker in the senate. I read somewhere that her choice to replace her as VP, (were she to take over for sleepy joe) would be subject to senate approval. Which a 50-50 senate could hold up until the mid terms. No more majority in the senate.

      Maybe buttplug will be along to denounce this as wingnut.com disinformation. That’s not where I read it, but I don’t know if it’s accurate either.

  12. “We expect Congress to speak clearly when authorizing an agency to exercise powers of ‘vast “economic and political significance,”‘” the Court’s opinion states.

    How about expecting them to “speak clearly” about all aspects of legislation and not simply delegating? I think that is the bigger picture here.

    1. It takes a lot of time and effort to spend trillions and trillions of dollars, they need someone to handle details.

      1. And then there were those years of investigating Russian collusion based on a phony thing called the Steele dossier.

        You’re right, they are just way too busy to do their job.

        1. They’ll get around to fixing the problems of this country once you send them a check so they can win the most important election of our lifetime.

        2. We should double, nay, triple the bureaucracy to ensure that these important things get the attention they deserve.

      2. One of the most troubling things to come up in the ruling is one that makes the government responsible for losses to landlords (it is a ‘taking’). Most of the money already spent has been salary for bureaucrats. States and cities, like California and LA are going to be on the hook from August on and don’t have the cash to make their debts good. Of course Congress can act and grant more money, but it is hard to see how.

        1. “Of course Congress can act and grant more money, but it is hard to see how.”

          I see you are not up on the current fiscal thinking, called modern monetary theory.

      3. The want to spend 3 times the (imaginary, inflated) cost of the Afghanistan war in one year….

  13. So I suppose Mayor Deboozio would have a moratorium on property taxes for the landlords.Right?

    1. Certainly not. They are all “rich”.

      1. Which member of the Squad made all that money last year from rental property?

        1. Probably campaign donors and not actual renters.

          1. Also the wildabeast from blm.

  14. “A little-known agreement” between law enforcement authorities and FedEx allows cops “to zero in on people’s property, dress up as FedEx delivery men, and proceed with arrests if they testify that a drug dog alerted them appropriately…”

    They must also have agreements with home intruders because I’ve seen a few viral vids of doors being kicked in by them, too. So I guess flip a coin on defending your home against those in FedEx uniforms.

    1. Apparently they check names on packages with some sort of government database. I bought something online and Fed Ex called me saying they are trying to deliverer the package but has a problem with the address. The address was correct. When I did receive the package it had an address correction sticker on it. The address was was correct. They changed the name to my full legal name on my drivers license. My first thought was where the hell did they find that?

  15. The Wonder Years is getting a reboot.

    I don’t know the show but I hope it includes gender or race swapping otherwise what’s the point.

    1. Danica McKellar is now a man? That would be tragic.

      1. “In this special episode, Kevin learns to not be repulsed by girldick.”

        1. Also, this show is going to take a shit after 2 seasons, max. No one in this era wants to watch a Boomer nostalgia vehicle like they did in the late 80s and early 90s. Gen-Xers make up that demographic now, and you need to pander to what they can relate to. The only people who are going to watch this are a few self-loathing white people, mostly in the media and entertainment industry, and older black people.

          It would have made a lot more sense to start it off right after 9/11, since it would stick with the “20 years later” time differential and make it more relevant to a larger share of the audience.

          1. This is why Stranger Things was a success. It was the nostalgia series that Gen-Xers wanted. They *might* be interested in Wonder Years, only because it was a show they watched as kids. But it will be as niche as the new MacGyver or Fuller House were- not huge successes, but enough to pay the bills.

            1. Burn notice was a way better MacGyver remake

              1. I am also a Burn Notice fan. Never saw the MacGyver remake, but I didn’t watch the original. I have lots of friends excited about the Wonder Years reboot, but I agree it will be a niche 1 maybe 2 season thing.

            2. Yeah, it’s not exactly a coincidence that the toy companies are doing re-releases of all the 80s cartoon toys. That stuff damn sure isn’t being bought for today’s kids, it’s being bought by yesterday’s.

            3. Most might watch it just to see the mimicking of the first couple of episodes, and then clock out after that.

              Also, I see Lee Daniels is involved, so it’s guaranteed to be over-rated, pretentious dreck.

    2. Those are the only things I look for in a reboot.

    3. The “Poor kids trying to express themselves in a gender conforming, straight laced dystopia” episodes just write themselves.

  16. Supreme Court Says Private Property Rights and Separation of Powers Do Still Exist in U.S.

    Flagged as misinformation

  17. https://twitter.com/lassebirk/status/1429152670854565899

    Denmark has good data. Afghan immigrants commit serious crime (“Straffelov”) at index 158 compared to general male pop, their descendants at index 247. And 37% af Afghan men are sentenced for serious crime by age 30, compared to 18% of Danish men.

    1. When an Afghani in Denmark commits a crime, every Afghani everywhere must bear the stain of that sin on his/her soul

      1. Excellent use of sarcasm, jeff.

        Of course we CRT advocates know only white people are obligated to feel collective guilt.

        #RadicalIndividualistsForRacialCollectivism

        1. Nope, whites don’t have collective guilt for crimes either. Try again.

          1. You are falling behind in the latest “science”.

          2. Yes, social ‘science’ says that it’s cis-gendered straight white men who are collectively guilty for all perceived crimes and sins. But, we knew that’s what you meant, you crazy radical individualist you.

          3. True, the nice thing about wypipo is they bear guilt for non-crimes, like liberal democracy and individual rights.

            1. We also bear guilt for any horrible thing non-wypipo do, because they only do bad things because we make them.

              1. Our city schools have such poor attendance and results because there’s a white republican posted at every bus stop.

      2. And Jeff proves he doesn’t know what statistics are.

        1. Oh I know what statistics are.

          Tell me, why should I, an American citizen, be concerned about the crimes that Afghani refugees commit in Demark? Is it the implicit argument that if Afghani refugees commit crimes in Denmark, that they will also commit crimes everywhere?

          1. Do you think there is a conditional probability of behavior based on geographical location? That is what you are implying.

          2. Not sure why you’d assume they’d limit criminal activity to ONLY Denmark. Seems spurious.

          3. You’re a Canadian citizen, cytotoxic.

            But maybe you should consider why Denmark by some accident of chance ended up with all the Afghani criminals while no one else will.

            1. Nor will he consider the connection between this and Denmark implementing an intensive program of civic nationalism that its immigrants have to go through if they want to stay in the country. For rootless cosmopolitans like chemfat, having actual love for one’s culture and country, and wanting to preserve that, is the ultimate evil.

              This is a country that actually sticks its fake “refugees” on an island and basically tells them to fuck off.

          4. Shared culture, or lack thereof?

    2. In the US Afghan immigrants aged 18–54 in the United States were incarcerated at a rate of 127 per 100,000 Afghan immigrants in 2017. Native‐​born Americans in the same age range were incarcerated at a rate of 1,477 per 100,000 – 11.6 times the rate. There were 3 terror attacks from 1975–2017, which combined resulted in 30 injuries and no deaths.

      1. There were 3 terror attacks from 1975–2017, which combined resulted in 30 injuries and no deaths.

        Fucking hell. If you’re going to lie, try to lie about something that anyone over the age 25 can’t vividly remember. Hint: the reason we were in Afghanistan had something to do with a terrorist attack that resulted in about 3,000 fatalities in one day. I’m sure the rest of your statistics are equally as accurate and rigorously sourced. What a retarded fucking piece of shit.

        1. All that is sourced from CATO. Those terror attacks are for Afghanis. 9/11 was perpetrated by 15 Saudis, 2 UAE, 1 Egyptian, and 1 Lebanese.

          1. “All that is sourced from CATO.”

            Speaking of turning this into a farce…

            Let me know when they’re no longer trying to justify the wholesale importation of ‘undocumented newcomers’ by comparing their per capita crime rates to the inhabitants of garden spots like Cabrini Green, and not the crime rates of average Americans.

            1. I mean, it’s hard to find data that differentiates between natural born and immigrants. The CATO data I listed above is notionally for all natural born Americans vs all Afghans as of 2017, and generally checks out – overall incarceration rate was 716 per 100,000 in 2013, but 419 per 100,000 in 2019. For the white incarceration rate I list below (under red rocks), that is NIJ/Pew data as of 2008. Finding multiple data sources to compare, and data of the same years, becomes difficult and this is just a comment section. Be my guest. Generally speaking, the vetting process seems to work well and the Afghans that come to the US seem to not be a problem.

        2. Technically, Afghani males were not involved. It was predominately Saudi males who did it. Predominately if not totally.

          The Afghans did protect OBL but did not actually pilot a single plane into any buildings here.

          1. Is that why obl is all in on afghan immigration or is there another obl I’m foregetting

      2. Native‐​born Americans in the same age range were incarcerated at a rate of 1,477 per 100,000 – 11.6 times the rate.

        Care to break that down by race?

        1. Which would do what? The white incarceration rate is still 943 per 100,000.

          1. That is, white male over the age of 18. Wish there was an edit button

    3. Could that be because the strong unions in Denmark keep them from attaining work?

  18. Sooo…..

    Are the “Free Minds and Free Markets” brigades pointing out Biden’s senility as a reason not to concentrate power in the government, or are they ignoring this damn good argument against concentrated government authority because Democrats?

    1. Maybe, specifically “Biden’s senility”, or “Trump’s erratic behavior”, or “Obama’s arrogance”, or whathaveyou, has nothing to do with the principled argument against concentrating power in the hands of a central government.

      1. Biden’s senility > Obama’s arrogance. Seriously, the man is totally mentally compromised. Stop with the “both sides” bullshit.

        1. I don’t know if he is or he isn’t. The point, though, is that when it comes to the *principled* argument against concentrating power in the hands of a central government, it doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t. Biden could be Pericles reincarnated and it would still be a bad idea to centralize power. Dressing up a principled argument in the form of personal attacks only weakens your standing in making the argument about one of principle. You of all people should appreciate that, aren’t you always complaining about how Reason complained more about Trump’s style than his substance?

          1. No, the risk of a dementia patient in charge is a totally legitimate thing to point out.

            1. Then don’t be surprised when others dismiss your argument as nothing more than partisan sour grapes, and will happily ignore anything more you say on the matter of centralization of power as being a dishonest motte-and-bailey argument.

              1. Nobody gives a fuck what the other side (you) says because they’re pathologically dishonest and completely psychotic.

              2. Considering you spent 4 years humping the leg of Russian collusion conspiracy theories and credulously thought the Russian pee pee tape was god’s honest truth, when we need any lip from you we’ll jingle our fly.

              3. Did you write this about yourself? It’s very apt to you lmao.

            2. And a dementia patient with the Deep State 100% behind him.

              After all, note the utter lack of leaks under Biden.

          2. You aren’t principled. Can you stop with that bullshit too? You railed against a president who lowered taxes and argued it was spending. You railed against a president who refused national lockdowns and argued he should force states to do things. You railed against a president for lowering regulations and cheered buden for ending pipelines. You aren’t principled.

            1. You aren’t principled.

              Yes I am.

              Can you stop with that bullshit too?

              “too”? Are you implying that the argument for Biden’s alleged senility is rooted in partisan points-scoring and not a serious argument?

              You railed against a president who lowered taxes and argued it was spending.

              Nope. I didn’t argue that lowering taxes is the same as spending. I dare you to provide a quotation to the contrary, since we all know you keep dossiers of prior comments on the people you don’t like around here. I argued that lowering taxes is generally good, but there does come a limit where taxes can be lowered too far. Would you agree that there is a limit? Do you think they are there? Are you capable of engaging in this topic on an intellectual level or are you just going to score trolling points on the matter?

              You railed against a president who refused national lockdowns and argued he should force states to do things.

              I never opposed his position on national lockdowns. What specific “things” do you allege that I argued that he should do? Again, pull out your dossier on me and provide a relevant quotation. Otherwise we know you are just lying.

              You railed against a president for lowering regulations

              To the extent that Trump actually did lower regulations, that was a good thing. What I criticized was the *image* he projected of reducing far more regulations than he actually did. And again provide a quotation from your dossier of where I actually argued against Trump lowered regulations. Otherwise you are just lying again.

              and cheered buden for ending pipelines.

              I didn’t cheer Biden for ending pipelines. Again, if you think I am wrong here, provide a quotation from your dossier where I supposedly did. Otherwise – another lie.

              You aren’t principled.

              I’m not the one making shit up about you and posting it as if it were fact, like you are doing to me.

              1. God damn you are full of shit. You know you’ve done each of those things. Prior I’ve linked your direct quotes.

                Are you claiming you never were against policies solely because they were from trump? Because nobody here believes you when you deny things you’ve openly claimed.

                1. Prior I’ve linked your direct quotes.

                  Because they are in your dossier? Then you should have no problem producing them. Go on, I’ll wait.

                  1. If he’s done so before and you deny it…why would it be any different now?

                    1. There is no “direct quote” from me cheering Biden ending any pipeline. It doesn’t exist because I never said it.

                      There is no “direct quote” from me arguing that Trump’s tax cuts are equivalent to spending. It doesn’t exist because I never said it.

                      Jesse is lying when he says he has these quotes or has posted them before.

                      But, if he thinks I’m wrong, here is his big chance. He can post his direct quote from his dossier that he keeps on me. But he won’t, because his schtick is to dishonestly paraphrase what someone says in order to push a deceptive narrative.

          3. I mean fuck. You supported the OC and DoJ attacks against trump based on foreign dossiers.

            1. I mean fuck. You supported the OC and DoJ attacks against trump based on foreign dossiers.

              So you can provide a quotation where I expressed my support for such things? That is in your dossier too right? Oh wait, yet another lie.

              1. Lol. So you want to call me a stalker but then ask me to go through 4 years of comment threads for your comments (provided previously) to state what everyone here knows you said? And guess what… you’ll then try to say I’m stalking for doing so? Lol.

                1. Why should you need to go through 4 years of comment threads? You already have all of these juicy quotes of mine in your dossier, right? Like the ones you pasted below?

                  You claimed that I cheered Biden for ending pipelines. Provide the quotation for that or admit you lied.

                  1. Ok you provided some examples, but I’m going to ignore those and ask for a different quote or else you’re lying.

                    — Lying Jeffy

              2. Here one example of your “libertarian ideals” by deferring to the elites over the individual.

                chemjeff radical individualist
                February.26.2021 at 10:42 am
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                So you’re arguing for elites to have power to overrule the mob?

                Sometimes – yes. See the French Revolution for a case study of what happens when the mob runs amok.

                When was elitism a libertarian ideal?

                Elitism in the defense of liberty is a libertarian ideal because the goal here is to defend liberty, not to placate the mob.

                1. Libertarianism is about liberty, not about populism. Why is this such a mystifying concept to you?

              3. Here is you arguing to shoot people for trespassing.

                chemjeff radical individualist
                February.9.2021 at 8:56 am
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                What is there to talk about?

                From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers. Again from a libertarian perspective, the officers would have been justified in shooting every single trespasser. That would not have been wise or prudent, of course.

                They were all trespassers trying to be where they weren’t supposed to be.

                1. That’s right. In Libertopia, lethal force against trespassers is justifiable, because every violation of a right is just as serious as every other.

                  Again you have demonstrated your ability to build a dossier of quotes of mine that you find particularly noteworthy. And yet you also assert without evidence whoppers like I argued against Trump’s tax cuts, or that I argued in favor of Biden ending pipelines, or that I criticized Trump for opposing national lockdowns. And somehow, you don’t have any quotes of mine that prove these contentions. Why is that?

                  1. And Jesse runs away when confronted with his lies.

                    He is a right-wing propagandist, nothing more.

              4. I won’t even bother finding the links where you claimed to be aibertarian globalist and a libertarian socialist. You don’t believe in individual autonomy.

                1. Yes I am a globalist libertarian. I don’t find that to be a particular indictment. Why don’t you explain why you think that is problematic, if you can.

                  I have never once claimed to be a libertarian socialist. If you have a quote from me claiming that I am, please provide it from your dossier. Otherwise STFU.

            2. Now here are some questions for you Jesse.

              Why do you stalk certain people in these forums? In certain discussions, I can see that you respond to every single post that I make. And it’s not just me where you do this. Why? This is just C-level stalking and trolling. What do you hope to accomplish by this tactic?

              Are you capable of discussing issues in an intellectual manner, without tu quoques, whataboutisms, strawmen, or crass insults? If so, when will you start?

              1. A) im not stalking you shit for brains. In replying to your comments in a public board. Find out what stalking means dumbass.

                B) i do not respond to every post you make dumbass. I’m not even im every thread. Youre simply lying because you know what you’ve said in the past and are trying to change the subject.

                C) since I’m not stalking and responding to your argument it is neither stalking nor trolling you retarded fuck.

                D) you dont discuss things intellectually. You deny what you said, resort to sophistry constantly, and fall back into ignorant hypothetical when your arguments are torn apart. You also commit ad hominems against every source that counters your arguments.

                Jeff, youre full of shit.

                And by the way, want to talk about trolling? Look at you, white Mike, and sarcasmic attacking ken the last few weeks for daring to realize both sides are not equal.

                Again, youre full of shit.

                1. A) im not stalking you shit for brains. In replying to your comments in a public board. Find out what stalking means dumbass.

                  When you respond to every single comment that I make, and you do that for several discussions in a row, that sure seems like stalking to me. Granted you haven’t done it recently, because I haven’t been very active recently, but you have done it. You also do it to sarcasmic and others.

                  B) i do not respond to every post you make dumbass. I’m not even im every thread. Youre simply lying because you know what you’ve said in the past and are trying to change the subject.

                  No, you are not in *every single thread* and I never claimed that you were. Learn to read. I said “in certain discussions”. And yes *I* know what I said in the past. Do you?

                  C) since I’m not stalking and responding to your argument it is neither stalking nor trolling you retarded fuck.

                  In my view you resort to troll-like behavior pretty frequently around here.

                  D) you dont discuss things intellectually.

                  Not 100% of the time, no, but I do give it an honest try.

                  You deny what you said,

                  When have I done this? Provide a quotation.

                  resort to sophistry constantly,

                  What you call “sophistry” is actually thought experiments and hypotheticals, so as to discuss the conceptual ideas without getting bogged down in the particular details (and passions) of an actual event. That is EXACTLY the type of intellectual discussion that should take place more of. It is no wonder you reject it.

                  and fall back into ignorant hypothetical when your arguments are torn apart.

                  I use hypothetical situations in order to construct a larger argument formulated on principle. It seems you can only live in the moment of day-to-day politics without considering the larger principled issues involved.

                  You also commit ad hominems against every source that counters your arguments.

                  There are some sources that are just plain unreliable. I am not going to read anything from Breitbart or Gateway Pundit or Alex Jones. It is a waste of time. It is not an ad hominem to acknowledge that they truthfully have a poor track record for honesty and accuracy.

                  And by the way, want to talk about trolling? Look at you, white Mike, and sarcasmic attacking ken the last few weeks for daring to realize both sides are not equal.

                  We aren’t criticizing Ken because he realized both sides aren’t equal. (And no one here really doubts that assertion anyway.) We criticize him for transforming into a Team Red puppet.

                  1. What you call “sophistry” is actually thought experiments and hypotheticals, so as to discuss the conceptual ideas without getting bogged down in the particular details

                    sophistry noun
                    soph·​ist·​ry | \ ˈsä-fə-strē \
                    plural sophistries
                    Definition of sophistry
                    1: subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation

                    Ouch. Your own description meets the definition.

                  2. We aren’t criticizing Ken because he realized both sides aren’t equal. (And no one here really doubts that assertion anyway.) We criticize him for transforming into a Team Red puppet.

                    It’s like he overeats right-wing radio and then vomits all over the comments.

                    1. LOL, using overeating in a debate where chemfat is involved was just delightful.

                  3. When you respond to every single comment that I make, and you do that for several discussions in a row, that sure seems like stalking to me. Granted you haven’t done it recently, because I haven’t been very active recently, but you have done it. You also do it to sarcasmic and others.

                    Except he isn’t actually responding to any of our comments, but rather to things we never said or did.

                    1. Lmao you’re stuck talking to retard Jeff now. My how you have fallen.

                  4. Personally, I “attack” Ken because he has taken the pompous stance of describing himself as a master of logical thinking, but he fails to see huge flaws in his logic. And often he drops all pretense and is blatantly partisan.

                    I don’t “attack” him, by the way. I point out flaws in his reasoning and make fun of his pomposity.

      2. These are however, good arguments for reducing the power of the executive. When viewed against Biden’s spate of executive actions and orders, it seems more important to do so. None of which is to say that the other two branches couldn’t use some pruning as well. If I recall, the most recent, Pelosi-introduced, I think, bill to curtail the executive, put far too much power into Congress’ hands. This is not better, given their devolution into rhetorical pandering versus substance and productive legislation.

      3. “Maybe, specifically “Biden’s senility”, or “Trump’s erratic behavior”, or “Obama’s arrogance”, or whathaveyou, has nothing to do with the principled argument against concentrating power in the hands of a central government.”

        You people need to learn the wonderful fucking power of “Why not both”.

        There is a principled argument (and to be fair, Ra’s never said he was making a principled argument) against giving one man concentrated powers over our lives because it is morally wrong. There is also a practical argument in that giving so much power to one man can lead to situations where that person’s incompetence brings unwelcome results.

        In this case, we have an immoral government headed by an incompetent drool cup. I don’t see why it is a problem to point out the downside of that situation.

        1. In this case, we have an immoral government headed by an incompetent drool cup.

          No, it’s the cabal who put him in power that’s incompetent. Biden is the just the hair-sniffing face of it.

          1. This is the scary thing for me. The cabal in charge are dumber than bricks and completely incompetent. If they had the first clue, Biden could get a lobotomy and it wouldn’t matter.

        2. Considering cytotoxic spent literally every day of his life for over 4 years, anywhere between 8 and 14 hours per day obsessively claiming that Trump should be impeached or removed under 25th amendment grounds, take his sudden sense of propriety and measured analysis for what it’s worth.

        3. The only way to be fair to the collectivistjeff virus is to put a gun to its temple and pull the trigger

          1. Just make sure he’s on US federal government property first so you’ll be fully justified in doing so.

      4. The risk of an incompetent or mentally unstable or malevolent leader having too much power is the main argument for not concentrating power in a central government. Remember George the III? That one Austrian guy in Germany?

        1. Stalin never gets his props in these kinds of comparisons. Sad.

          It pays to be a winner.

  19. https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1431238279198691330

    Biden must extend eviction moratorium because of the pandemic and massive unemployment amongst renters.

    Biden claims the economy is growing at a record rate and he is shutting down the virus.

    Pick one.

    1. Comrade, have you not been introduced to the glory of doublethink?

  20. https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1431010883468251140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Biden says just now that military commanders told him “Bagram was not much value added”. Well, this is not quite what Gen Milley said the other day. He said the military had to choose because of a cap on troop numbers–presumably a political choice by Biden

  21. Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan all voted to keep the eviction moratorium in place?

    Thank goodness Trump won in 2016. If Clinton had won, this case would have been decided 6-3 in favor of keeping the eviction moratorium in place.

    Yes, voting for Republicans can and does make a difference.

    1. Yes, voting for Republicans can and does make a difference.

      It sure can!

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-hawks-rage-that-they-want-their-forever-war-back-after-kabul-attack

      Republican lawmakers, former officials in Donald Trump’s administration, and conservative commentators are reacting to Thursday’s horrific Kabul attack by not only condemning the Biden administration—they’re also calling for a re-invasion of Afghanistan.

      Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), long an Afghanistan war hawk who recently called on President Joe Biden to be “impeached” for the withdrawal, demanded on Twitter that the administration “reestablish our presence in Bagram as an alternative to the Kabul airport, saying it was a “problem of will” that it hadn’t been done yet.

      “The retaking of Bagram would put our military at risk, but I think those involved in the operation would gladly accept that risk because it would restore our honor as a nation and save lives,” Graham continued.

      Another GOP senator, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, released a statement urging Biden to “reverse course and fight for our people,” insisting that “weakness will accelerate the bloodshed” while pushing the administration to “rip up the August 31 deadline” and expand its perimeter beyond Kabul. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) also demanded a “forceful response” from the president, saying he “must follow through on his word [and] make these terrorists pay.”

      1. There are also halls on the left you retarded fuck. And most of those hawks are the ones you defended like Cheney, Romney, etc.

      2. WHAT? LINDSAY GRAHAM SUPPORTS A MILITARY ACTION?

        GET THE FUCK OUTTA TOWN!

        Hey, can you point to a single time he SUPPORTED withdrawing?

        1. Because some Republicans are wrong about something, there’s no difference in the kind of Court we have or the decisions they make–not because the Republican won in 2016–is that what ChemJeff is saying?

          ChemJeff is not trying to reason with us. He doesn’t care whether he’s wrong or right. He’s not here to teach us anything. His shitposting is only meant to disrupt. If you mute ChemJeff, I doubt you’ll feel like you’re missing anything.

          1. But it’s fun to laugh at him making a fool of himself sometimes. And he’s putting on quite the show today.

          2. Jeff’s comment was directly relevant to your sales pitch for why we should vote republican.

      3. Do you agree that the Trump’s pick of justices was a win for freedom here, Chemjeff, or are you going to change the subject again?

        1. He’s going to change the subject because the subject was pro-Republican and that’s what he’s paid to do.

        2. In this case? Yes.

          But I will continue to point out that both teams are awful in their own particular ways. Voting for Team Red means that you get some good things, but also a lot of awfulness. Voting for Team Blue means that you get some good things, but also a lot of awfulness. With either team, you get a heaping dose of awfulness.

      4. “Hey, look, a squirrel!”

        And to think, you were humping the leg of the Republican neocons a short 8 months ago when they all joined your war party that has instigated and voted for every single military conflict in the last century.

        1. His war party? Chemjeff is a libertarian.

    2. Giving credit to Trump for others stopping a policy that his administration enacted? Something is wrong there. Yes, his SCOTUS picks are pretty good and he should get credit for that but he’s the asshole that allowed this policy in the first place.

      1. Yeah, Trump was wrong about something, and this isn’t the only example of that.

        Meanwhile, if the Democrat had beaten Trump in 2016, this eviction moratorium would still be with us today.

        Because swing voters in swing states voted Republican in 2016, we have a different court than we would have had if they had voted for the Democrat instead.

        Isn’t that conclusion inescapable?

        1. It is, just wouldn’t thank goodness for Trump on it. Seems like a wash at best.

        2. Seriously, Ken? Trump started the eviction ban. How can you just brush that off?

      2. The eviction moratorium under the Trump admin was approved by congress and also already expired you know-nothing dumbfuck partisan cock licker.

        1. Who was president in July of 2020 when the CDC claimed the authority to do this after the order expired and Congress didn’t renew?

          You know-nothing dumbfuck partisan cock licker.

        2. Not initially. It was initially an executive order from Trump’s desk. That is the reality.

    3. Just a reminder that Trump started the eviction ban.

  22. A push poll with the question emphasizing unfolding events that began less than 24 hours ago doesn’t measure anything other than the desired outcome of the poll-creator.

  23. “But it’s nothing more than self-serving claptrap to pretend that there was a way it could have done this that would’ve left things in Afghanistan humming along perfectly or without any of the upheaval and violence we’re now seeing.”

    Are you going to address any of the actual arguments people are making, or are you just going to continue to make stuff up, Elizabeth? Nobody’s arguing that we should stay in Afghanistan, and nobody’s arguing that things would just “keep humming along perfectly,” because they never hummed in the first place and everyone knows that.

    The actual argument, and the reason why Biden deserve every drop of criticism is that 12 US service members died needlessly yesterday, because the Biden administration lost control of the the operation. Your guy and his administration fucked up and people are dead. Own it and stop making up false arguments to deflect attention from the fact that Biden’s chaotic and disasterous withdrawal now has a body count, AND it’s on track to leave American citizens behind, while blaming them for their own beheadings.

    If you can’t do that, just go write for Slate or Vox, because that’s about the quality of your work.

    1. Biden deserves criticism because he is the guy in charge. Where the buck stops and all that.

      It is also a useful exercise, however, to try to separate the criticism that is well-founded, and the criticism that is just partisan points-scoring.

      This entire crisis arose because American withdrawal revealed the Afghan army to be the fiction that it always was. It was a fiction last year, it was a fiction two years ago, and it was a fiction right up until the moment when the army dissolved and turned into reality. Nothing Biden could have done would have realistically changed that outcome, consistent with the commitment to withdraw this year. So yes he deserves criticism for not realizing how much of a fiction it really was. But it was always a fiction, and therefore there would have always been chaos in any evacuation plan.

      1. He fucked it up.

      2. Biden and his generals deserve criticism for ignoring that it was a fiction, and not preparing for that. For a bunch of guys who have been involved in the planning an execution of Afghan strategy for the past 20 years, any withdrawal plan should have taken into account that the Afghan Army would fold and had a contingency to ensure that American civilians SIV holders could get off the ground safely before the chaos became unmanageable. Troops may have died anyway, but the fact that they died as a result of chaos that could have been mitigated by better planning is squarely on them.

      3. “Nothing Biden could have done would have realistically changed that outcome, consistent with the commitment to withdraw this year. So yes he deserves criticism for not realizing how much of a fiction it really was. But it was always a fiction, and therefore there would have always been chaos in any evacuation plan.”

        He could’ve refused to allow Milley to shut down Bagram until people were all out.

        He did not.

        He should resign. Milley should be turfed.

      4. Your criticism falls into the latter category. Once the US and allied contractors had been refused entry or told to withdraw, there was nobody to refit, fuel maintain the equipment about which Biden and so many of you folks that support him like to prattle. The equipment necessary for the Afghan security forces to fight against the Taliban. Aircraft, but also ground vehicles, communications, and weapons require upkeep, Their components fail and need to be replaced. They need batteries, fuel, filters. With no means for providing this and facing a sustained fight, without much of the know-how, and in many cases being caught unaware by the withdrawal, the Afghan forces were abandoned. Or, in the parlance of your in-group, many of them felt abandoned -the difference here, they actually were physically abandoned by the US. And by an enormous geographic space. This is not difficult to understand, but it is apparently not something you want to accept.

      5. “It is also a useful exercise, however, to try to separate the criticism that is well-founded, and the criticism that is just partisan points-scoring.”

        Only because you want to deflect from the left, who you sympathize with, taking all the blame. And to be clear, that is not what ENB is doing. She is deliberately TRYING to conflate partisan points-scorers with the majority of people who recognize that Biden done fucked up.

        If the US had been out of Afghanistan before the fighting season began, none of this would have happened. The Afghan government would have fallen and we would be here today watching Lindsay Graham shake a can with “Moar Foreign Wars” on it while the rest of the public walked on by, crossed the street trying to walk by him.

        Yes, I am sure that many partisans would have screamed that somehow, Biden turned a perfectly capable fighting force into a paper tiger the 4 months between January 20 and a May withdrawal. But those arguments would have been laughed out of the room.

        And before you go defending Biden again, consider that his total clusterfuck of a withdrawal *and the shilling that ENB is doing* makes a withdrawal from [Iraq|kurdistan|korea] less likely in the future. Biden, and Boehm and ENB are basically making the argument that this clusterfuck is what you get for withdrawing- as if there is no way to leave a country without stranding Americans in place. If we believe that, then no Politician in their right mind (nor many of their supporters) will accept another withdrawal.

        It is only if we make the (accurate) argument that we could have withdrawn without a bunch of americans getting killed that people will trust another politician to try a future withdrawal.

        1. “Biden, and Boehm and ENB are basically making the argument that this clusterfuck is what you get for withdrawing- as if there is no way to leave a country without stranding Americans in place.”

          This is incredibly obvious, but even people like Greenwald, Taibbi, Tracy fall into that trap. Just handling this issue horribly because they’re so focused on people not celebrating withdrawal at any cost. They’re unintentionally making the case for never considering withdrawal.

        2. They should have consulted the Israelis about their mass withdrawal of the bulk of Falasha people (Beta Israel) from Ethiopia and Sudan from 1979 to 1990 and in particular Operation Moses, which evacuated 8000 in a single swoop. The Israelis could have told them that safe and competant evacuations take time and people with their faculties about them. Sometimes casualites and fatalities still happen, but there is no reason why they should be massive as happened yesterday.

      6. It is also a useful exercise, however, to try to separate the criticism that is well-founded, and the criticism that is just partisan points-scoring.

        Nah, the failures were pretty obvious on multiple levels the past two weeks.

      7. If only there had been some kind of a plan in place that would have had all US civilians extracted by May 1st on an agreed-upon deadline that the Taliban has kept to the letter. Instead poor Joe Biden, through absolutely no fault of his own, inherited a situation where he had no choice but to break an agreement with the Taliban, push back the withdrawal date by 4 months, haphazardly withdraw military personnel before securing the evacuation of US civilian and diplomatic personnel, and rely on the Taliban to provide security for the only working airport in Afghanistan. Poor bastard just can’t catch a break.

      8. “He knew the ladder was made out of silly putty, but decided to climb it anyway because, after all, there was absolutely no other possible way to change that lightbulb. Anyone that changed that lightbulb was going to fall face first, shatter the bulb, and end up in the same dark room.”

        See how stupid that sounds?

      9. Trumps withdrawal plan hinged almost entirely on intra Afghan negotiations between the old govt and the taliban to form a functioning coalition government. Those requirements were scrapped by Biden, fatally as we now see.

        So go eat a dick you fucking dunce.

    2. “The actual argument, and the reason why Biden deserve every drop of criticism is that 12 US service members died needlessly yesterday, because the Biden administration lost control of the the operation.”

      They didn’t announce they were leaving until mid-April.

      Then they failed to evacuate our people because they were depending on an Afghan army that only existed as a budget item on a Pentagon spreadsheet.

      We should have been out by May 1st–and we would have been out by then if Trump had been reelected or Biden had stuck to Trump’s deal with the Taliban. We would have been out long before the Taliban took Kabul on August 15th.

      Biden had seven months to act, and he did nothing for the first three months but decide whether or not to actually leave. It was total incompetence on the part of the Biden administration.

      And, yeah, I’ve seen one person here in comments argue that we should stay in Afghanistan. The criticism is just about Biden and his incompetence of the way he withdrew.

      There’s something very progressive about assuming the worst or dumbest motives of their critics and responding to that. No, we’re not against arson because we hate black people. No, we’re not in favor of free speech because we’re anti-vaxxers. No, we don’t oppose the socialism of the Green New Deal because we hate scientists. No, we don’t oppose lockdowns because we hate the elderly and we want them to die. And no, we aren’t upset about the unnecessary suffering of Americans and our allies in Kabul because we want to stay in Afghanistan.

      Progressives need to hear these things said in order to even respond to them, and then they’ll argue the point–in each and every case. It’s like progressivism depends on that psychiatric disorder–“splitting”.

      “Splitting (also called black-and-white thinking or all-or-nothing thinking) is the failure in a person’s thinking to bring together the dichotomy of both positive and negative qualities of the self and others into a cohesive, realistic whole. It is a common defense mechanism.[1] The individual tends to think in extremes (i.e., an individual’s actions and motivations are all good or all bad with no middle ground).”

      —-Splitting

      1. I don’t think the left or right have a monopoly on this fallacious style of arguing. It is just easier to caricature what people think than to deal with their arguments. We have Fox news running in the morning while we get dressed, and I can guarantee you that there are a hundred Republican congress critters who do exactly the same rhetorical caricaturing as the left does. I just don’t think you notice it because you are sympathetic to the right.

        1. I don’t notice because I haven’t watched Fox News in years, because it was also hyperventilating garbage, just from a different direction.

          My problem here is, I (naively) expected better arguments from a publication that call itself “libertarian.” 10 years ago, I’d have gotten it. But now, the only thing worth reading on this site are the comments.

      2. “we would have been out by then if Trump had been reelected”

        You do not know that counterfactual. That is just your partisan faith.

        Trump has a document history of having the attention span and follow through of a gnat.

  24. https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/08/27/resign-n2594830

    You know what the Sergeant Major of the Army tweeted today, just before about a dozen of our troops were blown apart in exactly the way anyone not rocking in his chair, gulping mush, and staring at his stories on the tee-vee saw coming?

    “Diversity is a number – do you have people that don’t look or think like you in the room? Inclusion is listening and valuing those people. #WomensEqualityDay reminds us we’re smarter and more lethal when we come together as an inclusive, cohesive team. Our values demand it.”

    …Remember his ridiculous screed about “white rage?” Well, today – because of his failure – he has managed to unite Americans of all colors and shades in their rage at a failed military establishment whose lack of seriousness and gross incompetence has not only humiliated our country but gotten our troops killed. He has created a rainbow of rage.

    1. NBC NEWS, Sept. 24, 2020, 5:30 AM EDT — By Courtney Kube and Dan De Luce:
      WASHINGTON — More than 200 retired generals and admirals endorsed Joe Biden for president in a letter published Thursday, saying he had the character and judgment to serve as commander-in-chief instead of President Donald Trump, who has failed “to meet challenges large or small.”

      Some of the officers who signed the letter supporting Biden had retired only in the past few years, including Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who served as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump before he retired in August 2019; Vice Adm. Gardner Howe, a Navy SEAL leader who also retired last year; and retired Adm. Paul Zukunft, who oversaw the Coast Guard until 2018.”

      We are Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. We love our country. Unfortunately, we also fear for it,” they wrote.

      The retired officers and officials said the country needs a principled, honest leader who shows empathy for fellow citizens, values alliances, makes informed decisions and takes personal responsibility.

      “While some of us may have different opinions on particular policy matters, we trust Joe Biden’s positions are rooted in sound judgment, thorough understanding, and fundamental values,”they wrote.

      1. The fact these fart-sniffing idiots ended up in the positions they did shows why the US military, when it succeeds, does so in spite of these degenerates, not because of them.

      2. Again, fire everybody at O-8 and above, and think about purging the E-9 ranks as well.

        Just embarrassing.

    2. Inclusion is listening and valuing those people.

      Gosh, it wasn’t that long ago that South Park, before TDS and cocaine degenerated their brains, was making the argument that just because you tolerate something doesn’t mean you should have to celebrate or value it.

    3. I need to point out, just for the lulz, that SMA’s “diversity” picture that accompanied his tweet is a collage of authorized women’s hairstyles from the new update of the regulation.

      He couldn’t even be bothered to find a picture of actual female soldiers doing actual soldier stuff.

  25. The U.S. Supreme Court has struck down the Biden administration’s eviction moratorium extension.

    So when do impeachment proceedings begin? He said he knew it was likely a violation of the constitution, but he was going to do it anyway. Now that we know it was unconstitutional, he knowingly violated the Constitution.

    1. Mistakes were made, let move on, shall we?

    2. That’s nice, dear, deliberately violated the constitution, sure it’s terrible… BUT LOOK OVER THERE! MEAN TWEETS!!!

    3. he knowingly violated the Constitution

      Unquestionably. And what is Congress going to do about it?

      1. Impeach Trump in his stead.

  26. Biden continues to have a spine about Afghanistan.

    You’re not even trying any more.

    1. He’s still got it after he woke up from his nap and the Taliban handed it to him.

  27. Didja hear that since we left the Taliban in charge of Kabul, we gave a list of the Afghans who helped us to them, so they can be cleared to get to the airport to not be airlifted out?

    Democrat idiots.

    1. I did hear and swore I wasn’t hearing that. Guess I was wrong.

  28. “Biden continues to have a spine about Afghanistan.”

    I guess that’s the only possible positive take given these circumstances. How many hours did it take you to find it? Did you have to sleep on it?

    I’m not sure Biden has a spine on this so much as he has more to lose politically by reversing course at this point. He’s already taken the heat for the negative consequences. Looking indecisive at this point won’t help him any.

    The chances of the American people backing the reinvasion of Afghanistan isn’t likely to happen because Biden changes his mind at this point. That’s probably why Biden appears to have a spine–because he’s afraid of what would happen to him politically if he changed course.

    The calls for a cognitive test should be getting louder already. If Kamala were more popular and Biden’s Green New Deal legislation weren’t pending, the Democrats in Congress might already be calling him to resign.

    1. “I guess that’s the only possible positive take given these circumstances. How many hours did it take you to find it? Did you have to sleep on it?”

      “Sure he shit his pants, but isn’t it great that he was wearing some?”
      ENB always looks on the bright side (when team D’s involved)

      1. “Sure he shit his pants, but isn’t it great that he was wearing some?”

        Got a hearty guffaw out of me.

    2. I’m pretty certain the US is going to take a lot more losses and Biden is going to end up looking worse than he does now, but any vain hope he has of ‘changing courses’ is not going to help anything.
      As of now he’s at the mercy of the flying hour limit on those transport pilots, and what the Taliban lets him do.

      1. I saw on the news that the reason he has a hard date of August 31st to get everyone out is because the Pentagon is telling us that he shit is gonna hit the fan after August 31st.

        1. We’ve certainly left them with enough weaponry to cause some harm, and of course the apologists will point out that they’re not our weapons.
          As if ‘property rights’ is a reason not to destroy them in a conflict.

  29. “Supreme Court Says Private Property Rights and Separation of Powers Do Still Exist in U.S.”

    Until Nancy Pelosi says otherwise – – – – – – – –

  30. Fucking terrible worded poll


    YouGov America
    @YouGovAmerica
    Following the Kabul airport attack, voters are split on whether the US is right to leave Afghanistan.

    This can be interpreted in so many ways. Leave now. Leave after all citizens are evacuated. Never leave. Why does ENB fall for push polling?

    1. Because she’s a TDS-addled lying piece of partisan shit.
      Did you catch this?
      “…and partisan hacks who praised former President Donald Trump for negotiating with the Taliban and announcing the troop withdrawal from Afghanistan have been leaping at the chance to score opportunistic points against Democrats and/or reestablish their warmongering bona fides…”
      Yeah, “partisan” to point out the guy had enough sense to have a plan in mind instead of blindly stumbling along.

    2. Probably because she’s distracted by the pole pushing into her.

  31. “A group of right wing extremists just decided to throw families out of their homes during a global pandemic.”

    Buttplug is de Blasio. It’s all so clear to me now.

    1. Somehow, that’s an insult to both of them. Circular idiocy, or something like that.

  32. “The president—long an avatar

    Hey! Who just redpilled ENB?

  33. “…Certainly, the Biden administration has made mistakes in the way it has handled the withdrawal, particularly when it comes to getting out Americans and Afghan allies….”

    Quoting Babylon Bee here?
    ‘Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?’
    Yes, mistakes were made, primarily by the electorate last November when we ended up with droolin’ Joe.

  34. “Congress can still pass a law extending the eviction moratorium—it’s just unconstitutional for the executive branch to unilaterally make this decision. ”

    Wow ENB. And here I thought you were writing for a libertarian magazine.

    To be clear, it is just as unconstitutional for Congress to force landlords to allow squatters who pay no rent. It is taking property without compensation.

    1. You do t really think this a libertarian magazine, do you?

      1. It’s more like The Global Corporate
        Socialism Daily.

  35. Cathy Young holds forth on the virtues of Libertarian-Colonialism.

  36. “…Biden won’t budge on Afghanistan,..”

    ENB assumes:
    1) Biden has some idea of what’s going on.
    2) Biden is capable of making choices.
    3) Biden has some freedom of maneuver in the matter.
    All of which assume facts not in evidence; Biden is a puppet at this point with the Taliban pulling the strings.
    Stuff your TDS up your ass, ENB, so your head has some company.

    1. Ron Klain and Susan Rice are pulling his strings. Neither of whom know anything about the Taliban, Afghanistan, or what they’re even doing, and the Great White Rage Hunter Milley’s certainly no help.

      But Hey! Top Men! Smartest people in the room, right chemjeff?

      1. Trust the experts!

  37. “Vice President Kamala Harris continues to poll badly.

    Her rating, at 37%, and tweeted this morning, “VP Harris has lowest feeling thermometer of any first year VP going back to Gore in 1993 with an unprecedented ‘very negative’ rating on @NBCNews survey tracking.”

    The survey put her positive rating below former Vice Presidents Al Gore, Dick Cheney, Joe Biden, and Mike Pence.”

    Cripes, worse than Cheney at his lowest… and she’s slated to be the next puppet president too.

    It’s going to be tough sleeping your way to the top this time, when your bosses are 330 million people.

    1. She only needs to sleep with the people who fortified the last election.

      Fuck the rest of us. And not in the fun way.

    2. And this is an NPC NBC News poll no less. Can you imagine how underwater she really must be, in real life?

    3. Cripes, worse than Cheney at his lowest

      Oh, bullshit. Dick Cheney polled about 12% at his lowest in 2008.

      You are so full of shit, ML.

      (Harris is pretty worthless though)

      1. I guess your citation wasn’t inside some 8 year old kid’s asshole, or else you might just have found it.

        (I’m implying you’re a child fucking because of that time when you posted hardcore child pornography on Reason.com and got your account banned. Remember how that happened? How you posted child pornography?)

      2. Poor Buttplug.

        1. I was quoting ENB and the article.

        2. You just invented that figure for Cheney.

        Now tell us again how you totally aren’t a shill who’s paid to cover for the Democrats.

        1. Vice President Dick Cheney also leaves office amid negative perceptions, as his approval rating stands at just 13 percent. That matches his lowest approval since he assumed office.

          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/

          Now bow down to my superior knowledge!

          1. Look at you, trying to pull a fast one again.

            From your article:
            “Forty-four percent of Americans now view Cheney unfavorably.”

            From ENB’s:
            “Kamala Harris – Total negative – 46%”

            Secondly, the quote I posted said “VP Harris has lowest feeling thermometer of any first year VP going back to Gore”
            Which you ignored and pulled out Cheney’s rating from his eighth year. Cheney (bless his dirty heart) only had a 25% total negative rating in his first year.

            You’re so shit at demagoging, if I were your boss at the fifty cent factory I’d can your ass.

            1. pretty sure turd is a loser at everything he’s ever tried.
              He certainly shows no signs that what most consider ‘an education’ ever had an effect on him.

  38. “Cathy Young critiques the anti-liberal right.”

    In the other thread about neoconservatism, I wrote the comment about Cathy Young (and Michael Young and Charles Paul Freund) making libertarian arguments, here at Reason, in favor of our projects in Afghanistan and Iraq, back when they were happening, but I wrote that comment before I saw ENB had posted anything in this one.

    To cop Orwell and turn his famous statement around, the real difference here is not between libertarians and authoritarians but between conservatives and revolutionaries. Because libertarians can and do make libertarian arguments that conflict with each other, does not mean that one side is the real libertarian side and the other one isn’t. It just means that libertarianism can and does legitimately encompass more than one strain of legitimate libertarian thought.

    It MAY BE necessary for an argument to be libertarian to be correct, but being libertarian is not a sufficient condition for being correct. Sharpen your pencils. Do some thinking. Figure out why Cathy Young is wrong on the facts or wrong in logic. If you can’t accomplish that task, then formulate a libertarian counterargument of your own that conflicts with Young’s–and then thank Cathy Young for making you smarter than you were before.

    This is the libertarian way.

  39. FYI, our willingness to let bunches of Afghans in is causing them to head to the airport causing the security headaches.

    Fuck the Dems.

  40. ENB wrote: “But it’s nothing more than self-serving claptrap to pretend that there was a way it could have done this that would’ve left things in Afghanistan humming along perfectly or without any of the upheaval and violence we’re now seeing.”

    Nothing like defending Biden’s continuous blunders in Afghanistan and criticizing Trump supporters (and Biden critics) by creating the straw man argument that Trump couldn’t have withdrawn from the country without “any” violence.

    ENB, like most others at Reason, has a chronic case of TDS.

    1. Look Bill, there were only 2 options: To stay in Afghanistan indefinitely, or to discard the prior administrations plan and agreement, push the withdrawal date back 4 months to try to score propaganda points, get 12 American soldiers killed in a suicide bombing, and leave thousands of American civilians stranded in a failed Islamic fundamentalist theocracy. Sure, through absolutely no fault of his own, some bad things may have happened on Biden’s watch. But those were inevitabilities and the only other option was to occupy Afghanistan for all eternity.

    2. ENB’s review of “Our American Cousin”, 4/15/1865:
      “Wonderfully written and acted, with superb lighting and costumes. Simply a terrific way to spend an evening!
      Unfortunately, last night’s production was marred near the end by someone with wonderful intentions”.

  41. Biden’s a fuck up and everyone now knows it. The people hate him, and the supreme court bitch slaps him

    1. John MarshallJohn Roberts has made his decision, now let him enforce it.

  42. >>The Wonder Years is getting a reboot.

    someone should be lampposted for this.

    1. I think the entertainment industry forgets, back when the Wonder Years was popular, prime time television shows were very limited.

      Now that people can watch literally anything they want, whenever they want, they are not likely going to watch Fred Savage.

  43. You know what is disingenuous claptrap? Minimizing the Biden administration’s withdrawal as “mistakes were made”.

    To be sure, there are those who argue that we should never leave Afghanistan. (See what I did there?). But they are neocon establishment hacks from both parties.

    For the most part, the criticism is about how the exit was handled. And it isn’t partisan Monday morning quarterbacking to point out that a better plan was already in place …. You know, because it was already in place.

    The criticism has primarily been about *how* to go about leaving Afghanistan to fight amongst themselves. This is a refreshing change from a year ago when everyone except Trump was against withdrawal. (Even here at Reason we couldn’t get a full endorsement… It had to be “yeah, Trump is literally Hitler, but he happens to be right about getting out of Afghanistan… Except he should just pull out right now and be gone in 24 hours…)

    So what legitimate criticism is there?

    Well… Giving up your air base before getting Americans and their allies out was pretty dumb.

    Apparently the agreement with the Taliban and the Afghan government would have kept the air base under US control to help keep the peace and serve as a base for intelligence gathering. I don’t know if that is a good idea or not… But it certainly is better than abandoning the base before you evacuate.

    What else?

    Well, how about not announcing that you are breaking the agreement with the Taliban unilaterally and then announcing that you are going to pull all troops out on a date certain without consulting with any of the vested parties? This directly and immediately lead to the fall of the Afghan government (well, coupled with pulling authorization for contractors to work on Afghan military equipment supplied by the US.).

    And then?

    Well, how about not advising people to leave before the pullout? How about making proclamations that you cannot keep?

    Stop with the Rachel Maddow spin. The question has never been “what could Biden have done to leave and guarantee that the Afghan government would be successful and stable?”.

    It isn’t like this required 4D chess. There was already a process in place and it already was working. Instead of the knee jerk “I am tossing out the previous administration’s process for a spring departure and we are leaving on Sept 11 because that is symbolic for domestic partisan reasons”, they could have just gone with the process and taken credit for it.

    Pulling out civilians first and the military last would have avoided everything they are being criticized for. And if things did go tits up, you’d still have a huge airbase for contingencies instead of a tiny, 1 runway airport in the middle of a city.

    None of that would have guaranteed a Taliban-free future. Far from it. In all likelihood they would be in exactly the same place in 2022 either way. But without all of the negatives we are witnessing in real time.

    1. ‘That was four days ago, five days ago.’ isn’t much different from ‘What difference, at this point, does it make?’ in terms of callousness refusing to take responsibility. Oddly, both are career grifters and political hacks.

      1. I think this is the consequence of the protection they receive.

        Neither of these political climbers was the A team. They were always the backup. The B team. The foot soldier.

        On becoming the face of the organization, they received the full protection of the propaganda machine and the political machine. After a few years of having every gaff and grift swept under the rug, they lost that feeling of danger that helped them steer clear of these sorts of land mines.

        So Biden brazenly brags about his graft from the Ukrainians, even going so far as proclaiming simply asking about his corruption to be a high crime against the state. And Hillary can boldly commit obstruction of justice, knowing she is protected…. so she has no fear of reprisals for screwing up and getting a bunch of embassy staff killed, and brazenly proclaims any investigation into the events an irrelevancy of the past.

        So of course Biden walks right into this one. He has been under an umbrella of protection the likes of which we have not seen at least since Kennedy.

    2. ENB certainly proved herself to be a TDS-addled pile of shit, didn’t she?

      1. I wanted to give the critique without any reference to the prior administration… But it just seemed to inform the whole thing.

        No rational person, left or right, could be supporting this buffoon. And even if you did, you would have to at least acknowledge that he has screwed this one up, big time.

        So the only rationale that I can see is the hangover from the Trump rage. They got so invested in needing this guy to beat Trump that they willed themselves to believe that he was not just a viable candidate, but a great leader who would save us from the evil that came before. And now that the evil T is gone, they are still moving under the momentum of that rage.

        1. Reason is totalitarian leftist, like the rest of the MSM.
          Their role is controlled “opposition” which is intended to allow them to deflect from leftist problems with some credibility.
          Reason is playing their role as blocker for the regime.

          1. Exactly. The day the comments are gone so am I.

        2. There is an alternative:
          The lot of them are embarrassed to tears regarding the support they gave Biden and the grief they gave Trump; purely adolescent ‘father figure’ failed romance.
          So now, rather than admit to that failure of logic, they are trying *every* possible avenue to deflect attention from those actions, and hoping no one catches on.
          Brandyshit is the poster little-boy in this regard.

    3. And as to the sideshow?

      I will remind you of the histrionics around here every time Trump tweeted something that could even arguably be misconstrued. Funny how the standard for “literally Hitler” moved from tweeting about “fake news” all the way to the point where nobody is bothered that their entire executive branch is lying directly to us every day in real and substantive ways.

      “The Taliban is not able to threaten the country before 18 months.” “Chaos is extremely unlikely”

      “nobody could have planned for this” “We will not leave any Americans or Afghans who worked with us and want to leave behind”.

      “Chaos was inevitable”. “everyone knew the government was going to fall”. “We planned for every contingency”.

      How about this one:. “what about people who cannot reach the airport? Are you going to guarantee their evacuation? Will you guarantee that you won’t leave them behind?”. Answer: we guarantee that everyone who gets inside the airport will be evacuated. You will not be left behind!”.

      And if that wasn’t weasley enough… A couple of days later they warn Americans to avoid the airport. Nice! But we won’t leave you, we super promise.

      Let’s not talk about every member of the media. Just look in the mirror. How much of a pass would you have given Trump on that one? How about the president’s refusal to take questions? If this had happened in December, how would you have covered it? Would your primary worry have been that Democrat hacks were criticizing the pullout? Can you even make an honest assessment of that question?

      1. Most of us have been on the “Ok, can we be done with this?” Side of Afghanistan (and Iraq) for at least 12 years. This is a pretty anti war crowd. So picking out Biden for special praise for “sticking to his guns” on the withdrawal is a bit weird.

        First: he didn’t stick to his guns. He broke the US government’s agreement on day one, probably without bothering to even read it. Then he got criticized for the 9/11 cheeseball date, so he changed it, seemingly on a whim. Then he made some unilateral announcements that sounded quite extemporaneous and were possibly simply designed to appease a particular audience that he happened to be standing in front of at the time. Nobody seems to even know who decided that contractors were not going to be allowed to work on equipment for the Afghans, but the net result of that was the local afghan government officials and commanders knew that they were being hung out to dry, so they immediately negotiated surrender for cash.

        That is a pretty high level of ineptitude for us on the “I disapprove of everything the government does” to just give a pass to, particularly with a guy who could have advocated for a withdrawal at any point in the 8 years he was the number 2 executive in the White House.

        And that leaves off the optics of having the same general who just told us with great passion that it was vital to national security that our military confront white rage now being the guy who thinks it is a good idea to pull the military out of a combat zone before getting all the civilians out. You’d think a pro-free-thinking, anti-authoritarian magazine could squeeze a few think pieces out of that dichotomy.

        This is a target rich environment. I’m not sure praise for Biden because he is tough enough to withstand criticism for how he handled the draw-down in Afghanistan without folding to some nonexistent pressure to send 30,000 troops in to retake the country. Once he screwed the pooch, he really couldn’t unscrew it. Going back in now would be extremely difficult, and not just politically.

        1. I keep telling myself that there’s GOT to be a market for a real libertarian look at the news, maybe on Substack.

          I’d pay $5/mo to Substack for access to the same commenters as I see here. (As a bonus, we’d be rid of the bots and the socks)

    4. ““I am tossing out the previous administration’s process for a spring departure and we are leaving on Sept 11 because that is symbolic for domestic partisan reasons””

      That is the funny thing here. You know for a fact that it Trump had won and moved the withdrawal to September 11 they would be EXCORIATING him here for him wanting to do a PR stunt at the expense of American security. Remember when Reason was complaining because Trump was rumored to be delaying those libertarian stimulus checks so that he could get his name on them? This is just as bad if not worse.

      1. There were a ton of “Trump is a dictator” think pieces written on news reports that turned out to be “fake news”.

        I am thinking specifically of the “Trump sent the military to clear the street in front of the white house so he could have a photo op.”

        We are not Republicans here. But neither are we Democrats. Our lot in life is to form issue-based alliances.

        We declined to do that during the 4 years of Trump. And it looks like we are sticking with one side of the aisle this go around as well. This seems to be a strategic error.
        None of it was true, it was easily falsifiable the same day… Yet numerous opinion pieces were written proclaiming Trump to be a third world dictator. The editors were even worse in person, letting their real disgust loose on podcast discussions.

        1. “…Our lot in life is to form issue-based alliances…”

          Except for TDS-addled assholes like the Brandyshit little boy. If you don’t have L in front of your name, for get it! And if you are not Brandyshit’s idea of a father-figure, well, he’ll be happy to support a droolin’ imbecile again.
          Right Brandyshit? Tell us about Trump’s mean tweets again; adolescent whining is so amusing, asshole.

  44. https://www.lifezette.com/2021/08/australian-media-celebrates-news-of-renewal-in-freedoms-from-covid-lockdown/

    #BREAKING: From September 13, NSW residents that are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will be given new freedoms.

    Residents of hotspots can leave home for an hour of recreation on top of their exercise hour, while people in other areas can meet five others outdoors

    1. The chocolate ration has been increased to 10 grams.

    2. “New Freedoms”

    3. #BREAKING: From September 13, NSW residents that kneeled to Caesar will be given new freedoms.

      That moment when you realize that the dystopia has arrived.

    4. I always read that north south west. You suck Australia.

  45. >>somehow magically makes keeping American troops there wise

    can’t spell gaslight without ENB lol

  46. The F-Up right there, “Supreme Court’s ruling is somehow undemocratic”….

    And those that believe this hyped up B.S. tell us ONE thing; what’s the reason the judicial department even exists???? Representative Democracy takes places in Congress so what would be the point of a Judicial department???

    That’s right; you idiots are too d*mn stupid to realize the USA isn’t a democracy.

    It’s a Constitutional Union of Republican States. Setup by the founders of the USA that wrote a LAW over their government because there needed to be a SUPREME LAW that would prevent the USA government from turning into a [WE] mobs rule Power-Mad struggle. And that SUPREME LAW ensured *every* Individual Liberty and Justice.

    The USA looks more like the middle east every day BECAUSE far too many people don’t understand what nation they live in and why it ?was? so great to be here.

    If you can’t comprehend or want to play ignorant to what the USA is; MOVE. You don’t belong here.

    1. ….As-if the very name wasn’t a dead give-away. “United States”.

  47. Herschel Walker’s embarrassing Senate bid

    That Trump assumes a famous Black football player is immediate competition for Warnock is both ridiculous and casually racist. Walker may be a willing pawn, but that doesn’t make this political stunt any less embarrassing, and favorable to Sen. Warnock’s re-election bid.

    Although Trump is certainly no political scientist himself, it’s hard to ignore the political instincts of a famous huckster that somehow successfully tripped his way to the presidency and arguably nearly toppled American democracy in a single presidential term.

    “I think he’d win,” Trump declared. “I think it would be very, very hard to beat Herschel.”

    https://news.yahoo.com/herschel-walkers-embarrassing-senate-bid-135648705.html

    1. turd lies. And supports lying lefty shits. It’s what turd does.
      turd is a pathological liar, and too stupid to understand that the rest of us know quite well that if turd posts something, it’s beyond a 99% chance that it’s a lie, or spun such to be a lie.
      turd lies; it’s what turd does.

    2. A racial attack on a black who wandered off of one of the Democrats vote plantations. How typically establishment Democrat of you.

      1. Did they call him the black face of white supremacy? No?

        Well, then this is a puff piece. That is where we have set the new bar.

    3. That Trump assumes a famous Black football player is immediate competition for Warnock is both ridiculous and casually racist.

      Of course! Obviously, he should have pointed out Hershel Walker’s lack of a negro dialect and cleanliness.

      You gotta come up with something a little better to red herring your senile savior’s unending fuckups, shreek. Try posting some child porn. Wait, shit, you already did that.

    4. I think it would be very, very hard to beat Herschel.

      I guarantee no politician is going to beat him in a footrace.

    5. Hey a-hole, he’s been a businessman for far longer than he was an athlete. Reminiscent of the leftist complaint that the former president of SAG and two-term governor of California was “just an actor.”

  48. Woke Army Sergeant to American Civilians: ‘That Weapon Is Pointed… At You’
    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/08/27/woke-army-sergeant-to-american-civilians-that-weapon-is-pointed-at-you-n1473297

    “If you do not get in your house when I tell you to,” Bronson warned, “you become the enemy. Martial law. You know, when your rights get curtailed?”

    1. Is…this really a “woke” soldier saying this? If you’d have shown me that video with the caption “A liberty loving soldier explains how declaring martial law turns citizens and military into enemies”, I’d completely agree with what she is saying.

      1. LOL! It does display a firm understanding of the oath they take to acknowledge that you can’t give orders to civilians without first suspending the Constitution. It’s not like cops and their ‘lawful order’ bullshit.

    2. Chemjeff and Buttplug are in love. Finally, a soldier and a military action that they can get behind.

    3. Come and get it motherfucker. You just got buttfucked on international TV by a bunch of illiterate 14th century religious fundamentalists who fuck goats, let’s see how your high school dropout, “10 more years til the pension!” boolicking ass fares.

    4. I look forward to her Nuremberg trial.

  49. It’s also a good stand for the separation of powers. Congress can still pass a law extending the eviction moratorium—it’s just unconstitutional for the executive branch to unilaterally make this decision.

    Did ENB fail high school civics or is she just a really shitty libertarian? Congress does not have the power to interfere in legitimately executed private contracts. The founders were so sure of that fact that they specifically prohibited the States from doing so on their own in Article 1, Section 10. By definition, real property can’t move across state lines, so the courts can’t weasel around it by invoking their magical mantra of ‘interstate commerce’.

    To the extent the courts are allowing this shit, there should be no question a moratorium on the collection of contracts is a taking by the government. They should be forced to pay interest and any penalties allowed under the contract at a minimum. The claims are going to get ugly.

    As the Constitutional Convention was completing its work on prohibiting states from issuing paper money as legal tender, Rufus King of Massachusetts rose to propose “a prohibition on the States to interfere in private contracts.” King relied on a central provision of the Northwest Ordinance:

    [I]n the just preservation of rights and property, it is understood and declared, that no law ought ever to be made, or have force in the said territory, that shall, in any manner whatever, interfere with or affect private contracts or engagements, bona fide, and without fraud, previously formed”

    The Obligation of Contract Clause thus had its origins in earlier national policy, by extending to the states a prohibition that was already in effect in the Northwest Territory.

    https://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/4/states

    1. Did ENB fail high school civics or is she just a really shitty libertarian?

      Yeah…

    2. Did ENB fail high school civics or is she just a really shitty libertarian?

      Embrace the power of “and”

    3. Did ENB fail high school civics or is she just a really shitty libertarian?

      1. The schools don’t teach High School Civics. So, technically, it may not be her fault. She grew up in the ‘equity and inclusion’ era.

      B. Yes.

      1. In the immortal words of SugarFree, “[S]he’s a Libertine, not a Libertarian.”

        1. B’tween you, me and the fencepost, I suspect she ain’t the former, either. The whole “sex worker” schtick seems to be intrinsically designed to make sex boring. It’s like having your trysts managed by the Post Office.

  50. Of course there’s a separation of powers. Powers have been separated from us and collected in DC.

  51. “Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.)—who profusely praised Trump’s withdrawal plans, and continued to praise withdrawal as recently as April—is now calling on Biden to resign.”

    Is it so unconceivable that somebody can approve a policy and find the execution mind-bogglingly inept?

    1. Well, there was a major change:
      Trump had plans and functioning agreements for a withdrawal.
      Biden decided we should get an ass-kicking instead!

      1. And Jeff will say “they would not have honored the agreement under Trump” which might be true…but Biden was the one who broke it.

        1. It’s possible they would violate the agreement under Trump, but not likely. Trump once dropped a MOAB on their country, and I’m sure they remember that.

  52. Australia is building concentration camps.

    1. But for everyone this time. Not just the Jews. So equity.

    2. How did they fail – slowly at first and then all at once.

    3. Australia/ New Zealand are the new Maoist base camps for CCP slavers.

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  54. Abolishment of private property is the root foundation of the Socialist Utopia. The liberal justices are treasonous scumbags.

    1. ^THIS
      “You didn’t build that!”, Obama quote sure comes to mind.
      The [WE] mob gang will self-proclaim every creation as their own.

  55. Before the Democrats try to push through the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill without any Republican support in September, make sure your purply swing voter friends and family get a gander at this:

    “The Office of Management and Budget said it expects consumer prices will rise 4.8% in the fourth quarter from a year earlier, up sharply from the 2% rise that the Biden administration forecast in May.”

    —-WSJ

    “White House More Than Doubles Its Inflation Forecast in New Update”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-more-than-doubles-its-inflation-forecast-in-new-update-11630085695?

    The White House just doubled its inflation forecast, and now they want another $3.5 trillion in Green New Deal and entitlement spending?!

    When we get average Americans to see Biden’s $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation bill the way they see Biden’s handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal, the $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation bill goes out the window.

    1. That’s part of the plan, Ken. Raise SNAP and all other transfer schemes by 25percent and tax anyone who works for a living or owns anything through inflation.

    2. $15 Now! is going to seem like a lowball figure.

    3. Still think bitcoin will be crashing?

    4. OK, but let’s make sure purple voters also look at this:

      https://www.axios.com/trump-ashli-babbitt-justice-call-2f2b9156-df6d-470f-bc4e-75d2e6ccd9cb.html

      “I spoke to the wonderful mother and husband of Ashli Babbitt, who was murdered at the hands of someone who should have never pulled the trigger of his gun,”

      Seems like neither major party is a great choice, at least for voters who favor fiscal responsibility _and_ the continued existence of American democracy.

      1. Oh, look! The assholish piece of shit Mike is now trying to defend the cop shooting the unarmed protestor with a BOTH SIDES

      2. Are you fvckin serious?

  56. “Cathy Young critiques the anti-liberal right.”

    Cathy Young can fuck directly off…

    https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/1430757188427997184?s=19

    In which Cathy Young pretends Australia’s COVID authoritarianism isn’t really authoritarian because only SOME people aren’t allowed outside.

    1. Check out the person schooling Cathy Young:

      You’re not arrested. In particular situations you might be given an infringement notice and told to go home.

      This is supposed to make us feel better about Australia’s policy.

      1. “Oh, my bad. Only 5% of your population is imprisoned unjustly in their homes. That’s totally okay.”

        1. I mean, how many Jews are there in Australia?

      2. What happens when you refuse to go home? Do you get arrested then?

  57. In another blow to Reason: just two days ago Reason was stating only SIV holders are coming to the US currently and anyone who questions the vetting is evil Nativist, today the Pentagon confirmed less than 50% of evacuees entering the US are SIV holders or applicants.

    1. As somebody here said, they were simply the people who could push their way into the front.

      1. Yes everyone go there and see all my rebuttals to Mike and how he still hasn’t apologized yet for misrepresenting what I said that night. He only apologized for calling me xenophobic because he took me out of context and only because he changed to the narrative that I am fearful.

        1. You’re wasting time trying to explain anything to Mike; a random handful of mud is more intelligent.
          That asshole is so pathetic, he continues to defend a cop shooting an un-armed protestor in the face.

        2. And, let’s see, how many times have you apologized for accusing me of being a progressive yesterday, long before the conversation about vetting refugees. Oh, that’s right, zero.

          1. Let’s see, how many times have you faked NOT being a steaming pile of lefty shit?
            Thousands, steaming pile of lefty shit.

  58. The Wonder Years is getting a reboot.

    At least this one doesn’t look like a Jean Shepherd rip-off.

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