DoorDash Customer Fees Go Up Thanks To Dumb Regulations
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DoorDash regulators get a crash course in economics. Across the U.S., authorities are getting a lesson in how government price controls don't work. When city and state regulators artificially cap prices for an in-demand product or service, providers of that product or service will simply recoup costs elsewhere.
The lesson comes courtesy of DoorDash, a food delivery app that soared in popularity among restaurants and consumers during the COVID-19 pandemic.
DoorDash drivers pick up carryout orders from restaurants and take them to consumers; in addition, the DoorDash app serves as a centralized place for consumers to search for restaurants, read their menus, and order food. For this service, DoorDash and similar apps (like Uber Eats) typically charge a commission to restaurants as well as fees to those getting delivery.
Pandemic-slammed restaurants—which tended to operate on very thin margins pre-COVID—frequently complain about the commissions DoorDash and its ilk take. But DoorDash needs to make money, too. And while restaurant owners might like for DoorDash to cut into their profits less, the fact that so many continue to use the service suggests it's still a better deal for them than hiring their own delivery drivers or not doing delivery at all.
But in many places, authorities—always keen to pick winners and losers in the business sphere—answered restaurant owner complaints by capping allowable DoorDash commissions. Since the start of the pandemic, at least 68 cities, counties, and states have enacted food delivery commission limits and other locales are considering them, NBC News found.
Authorities seem to believe that delivery services can and will simply accept making less money so that restaurants can make more. DoorDash is showing them that this isn't the case:
To recoup what it considers lost revenue, DoorDash has tacked on another flat surcharge of $1 to $2.50, which it often calls a "Regulatory Response Fee." The money goes straight to DoorDash. Only when customers click a tiny button does an explanation pop up saying the city has "temporarily capped the fees that we may charge local restaurants."
NBC News found that DoorDash added supplemental local fees in 57 of the 68 locations that have fee caps.
So, the lost revenue is now being recouped from delivery food consumers—which means higher prices for those who order food. Consumers, in turn, may make up for this by ordering delivery food less often or making smaller or less pricey orders when they do.
NBC News cites restaurant complaints about the new DoorDash fees added to customer food orders and how they make ordering delivery unattractive to consumers. But what did they expect? DoorDash is a business in its own right, not a magical lifeline to help restaurants make more money. (And it's not exactly swimming in dough either: "In the second quarter of 2020, DoorDash made its first profit ever, just $32 million," NBC News reports, and "the company remains billions of dollars in debt," having "lost a combined $355 million in the third and fourth quarters of 2020.")
Lawmakers also seem somehow baffled by the fact that DoorDash won't just altruistically go into more debt to help restaurants make more money:
The newer surcharges have befuddled the legislators who thought they had finally made progress to limit the cost of takeout food in the pandemic. Dan Kalb, the City Council member who wrote Oakland's fee cap bill, was unaware that DoorDash had instituted a $2 "Oakland Fee" until NBC News brought it to his attention.
"I was not anticipating that there would be this extra fee. But I'm not sure that I can stop them from doing that," said Kalb, who represents the northern part of the city. "It is concerning that the fee might be misinterpreted that the city of Oakland is charging something."
But while it might not be a fee directly imposed by Oakland, it is the city's fault.
If Oakland and other areas want to lower prices for delivery food consumers, maybe they could start by suspending taxes on food delivery orders. But I suspect we won't see city, county, and state regulators rush to cut into their own revenue sources the way they do with other people's money.
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The legislation would allow recreational marijuana sales to adults over the age of 21, and set up a licensing process for the delivery of cannabis products to customers. Individual New Yorkers could grow up to three mature and three immature plants for personal consumption, and local governments could opt out of retail sales.
The legislation would take effect immediately if passed, though sales wouldn't start immediately as New York sets up rules and a proposed cannabis board. Assembly Majority Leader Crystal Peoples-Stokes estimated Friday it could take 18 months to two years for sales to start.
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The bill forces applicants for state licenses to first cut deals with labor unions before they can get state permission to operate.
New York.
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4-D Chess.
It's New York. Didn't they already ban guns?
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the lost revenue is now being recouped from delivery food consumers—which means higher prices for those who order food.
The horror!
But it’s not high enough to make them get off their fat asses and waddle down to the hog trough to eat.
I've only ever used the "one free delivery" from each of those. I'm not paying upwards of 6 bucks to save a 5 minute drive somewhere.
Meh, I find them to be extremely convenient. If I have to go to the restaurant, order, and come home, I'm looking at roughly 30 minutes out of my life.
Using DD, I can simply continue working for that 30 minutes, effectively paying for the delivery fee and then some.
Oooh. Look at Mr. $12 an hour here.^
Fancy, fancy.
Delivery services are *extremely* helpful when you're a truck driver. The hours of service regulations mean that once you park for your mandatory break, you can't move at all until it's over. And since Big Brother's Own Timeclock is hardwired to the truck, it knows if you do.
Not to mention that most restaurants don't have parking for vehicles that are 75 feet long.
I cook all my food right on the truck. You don't have to live like a refugee.
On the manifold?
I haven't leveled up that far yet. :'(
Like mid-air refueling? They rendezvous with you on the road?
Hah, that would be awesome.
No, I mean when I shut down for the day and am not allowed to move the truck for ten hours. I just give the address for whatever truck stop I'm at, and tell them which truck to look for.
well its easier to pay for with new minimum income and federal stimulas monies
Lol pretty much what I think every time I see one of those delivery bags.
You can order Everclear Jello Shots through DD in Montana??
"It is concerning that the fee might be misinterpreted that the city of Oakland is charging something."
DoorDash should have called it the Kalb Fee. It's a surcharge for electing economic illiterates.
> The newer surcharges have befuddled the legislators who thought they had finally made progress to limit the cost of takeout food in the pandemic.
Shockingly enough, an economically illiterate legislator couldn't foresee the incredibly obvious consequences of his legislation.
He was probably diddling himself thinking he had checkmated DoorDash and capped commissions.
"Hey Prog Buddies....guess who has two thumbs and outsmarted DoorDash??"
This is exactly what I was saying during the whole Facebook/Australia fiasco. Name and shame. You are a freakin' tech company, for crying out out loud, why don't you use the tech to support your case?
Tiny button? Pop up explanation? The pop up explanation should be easy to access, obvious, should have a explanation of the ridiculousness of the law that inspires it. THEN, it should have a link to a telephone where you can make a complaint call this council or whoever passed the law. And if the government body is smart enough to replace the number with a recording giving their side of the argument, you instantly edit the page to put your rebuttal in front of the council's explanation. The whole point of having an app-based technology company is that you are quicker and nimbler than your opponents, so why the #*(! are you fighting them on their own ground?
Because the people who are paying extra don't give two shits anyway. They will just tip less
"Mask burning is freedom of speech"
Just mask burning and flag burning ?
Maybe Reason can tell us the rules / logic to determine what burnings constitute expression and why other burnings do not.
*** scratches head ***
Mask and flag burnings do not produce useful energy, whereas fossil fuel burnings do?
In violation of safety provisions banning open flames?
So they aren't heating the capitol with a wood stove. Good to know.
At least they weren’t shot for being on public property.
Idaho cops shoot pregnant women with mental issues. Protesters may shoot back.
Lotta mormons in the shithole part of Idaho(Southeast and south).
Do you live in the shithole Mormon part or the cool part?
Moscow and everything north of it is great.
Hi KARen!
Let me know if you're ever in the NW pussy
I've been in quite a bit of northwest pussy.
I laughed.
Well, I knew mental issues can be lethal, but did not know anyone could be shot with them..... interesting.
How many can be loaded into one magazine?
Or intentionally run over for blocking a road. Or shot in the chest for open carrying. Or blinded by rubber bullets.
Or shot in the head for trespassing. You seemed to have missed one.
Intentionally run over for blocking a road
Newsflash - Pedestrians don't belong on freeways, although that was a sickening thud when the BiPOC turned that protestor into a hood ornament
Back in the 80's, when flag burning was a "hot topic," Johnny Cash did a concert in the podunk town where I was living. He started the concert by explaining his take on flag-burning. Lacking an eidetic memory, I will paraphrase: "I support the right of people to burn their flag. But I keep my rifle handy if they try to burn mine."
National treasure
Buildings are okay if you are supporting BLM.
It's tough to burn a building with an electric coil.
Good to have a of the state's leniency on file in case you wanted to try this with, say, a flag
MY GRANDDADDY DIDN'T FIGHT THE KRAUTS AND THE JAPS FOR A MASK.
He did it because VW's and Toyotas were cutting into his Ford dealership business.
...and set up a licensing process for the delivery of cannabis products to customers.
HBO's High Maintenance hardest hit.
They ban over-the-counter pseudoephedrine and then cry about all the local meth cooks going out of business, smdh...
I blame Wal-Mart.
Where's Walter White when we need him?
That's the amusing part--no one seems to realize that Mexican cartels would inevitably take over the market because they have the resources to mass produce higher caliber meth, versus a bunch of tweakers using smurfs to buy up pseudo stocks through the upper Rockies/Plains region.
The Mexican Cartel exports already dwarf domestic production
You know this seeing as you're a uneducated, backwards, bigoted tweaker.
Traitor.
Or he reads the news and is able to make inferences from the information relayed therein
Unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot.
Give me your REAL ADDRESS.
I did, you’re just too much of a pussy to show up.
Unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot.
Whatever pedo traitor bigot
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“It is concerning that the fee might be misinterpreted that the city of Oakland is charging something.”
DoorDash should have called it the Kalb Fee. It’s a surcharge for electing economic illiterates.
More https://www.thenewsexpress.xyz
OT:
Look on YouTube for the Australian news response to the SleepyJoe news conference. And you thought our former president was an international embarrassment.
Whatever you do, don’t link it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQvBeV9x7pI
"I Am Not Managing It With You Or Any Other Woman, Especially One Who Dresses Like An Australian's Nightmare!"
Thanks!
The Door Dash fee makes economic sense. It's transparent, and shifts the cost burden to the people who use the app and away from the customers who don't use it.
Isn't that a libertarian outcome?
Yep. Government interference in commerce; really 'libertarian'.
If all government interference were this "transparent" we'd be a lot better off.
I think you are exactly right. Let people understand their use fee is going up because local bureaucrats use tactical thinking in a strategic engagement
The more libertarian outcome was what restaurants did before the regulation. Since the restaurants set their own prices on the app most just raised their menu prices to compensate for the commission fees.
It is less transparent (you don't know how much they raised the prices unless you go to the restaurant and compare the in-person menu prices) but I think its more libertarian as it allows the business owner to decide how much of the commission to pass on to the customers and how much to trim from their own profits
And besides, since the delivery services still charge some amount of commission, the price differential now exists alongside the regulatory response fees
the business owner to decide how much of the commission to pass on to the customers and how much to trim from their own profits
What is none, Alex?
Looks like sitting in Nancy's chair and protesting the day before some cop dies of a stroke aren't felonies:
"Prosecutors Struggle With Consistent Story in Jan. 6 Cases"
[...]
"There’s little doubt the Oath Keepers were planning for something on Jan. 6. The question at the heart of the criminal case against its members and associates in the attack on the U.S. Capitol is: What, exactly, did they intend to do?
Authorities suggested for weeks in court hearings and papers that members of the far-right militia group plotted their attack in advance in an effort to block the peaceful transition of power. But prosecutors have since said it is not clear whether the group was targeting the Capitol before Jan. 6. ..."
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/prosecutors-struggle-with-consistent-story-in-jan-6-cases/2968152/?amp
Gee, ya think maybe they were, you know, "protesting"?
It's nice to see the case falling apart, but I'm not sure how much it will matter big picture. If even Reason continues to use words like deadly attack to get around admitting the only person killed in the protest was a protestor, what hope is there?
Dems simply don't care that there is no justification for any of the extreme actions being taken. They have the power, and they can invent events from thin air and the media will dutifully repeat it as truth.
Maybe the TDS-addled shit WK will quit lying about it?
Unjustified optimism.
Never.
You'll have to pry Sicknick's skull out of my cold, dead hands.
Hi sqrsly
The White Knight II: The White Knight Rises!
March.28.2021 at 2:17 pm
And, by the way, JesseBahnFuhrer does not allow anyone to belong to a libertarian tribe, or belong to no tribe at all. If you are not a Trumpista, you are an enemy of the Trumpistas.
Meant for below. Dammit.
Maybe slow down, amigo.
Maybe stop sockong after you've been warned dummy. Lol.
"sockong"
Maybe slow down, amigo.
Why? Your linked story had nothing to do with Sicknick’s death.
Some day, we'll pry Sicknick's skull off your dick.
Maybe that's because Sicknick's death had nothing to do with the protest.
Check and Mate. Nice play
It is so critical to your identity to absolve the Capitol rioters from any involvement in his death, but the problem is it is obvious to any non-partisan observer that Sicknick died as a consequence of doing his job trying to control the rioters.
Maybe you want to consider some self reflection on how you have ended up being such a Trumpist ideologue that you cling to this preposterous position that Sicknick’s death was just a Xi incidence.
It is so critical to your identity to absolve the Capitol rioters from any involvement in his death, but the problem is it is obvious to any non-partisan observer that Sicknick died as a consequence of doing his job trying to control the rioters.
Woof, the projection in this statement can be seen from Pluto.
My buddy on Alpha Centauri said it was clearly visible from there as well.
Did you pray to your perv god that doesn't exist this Sunday?
Goddamn mormon pussy!
Pedo traitor bigot
Stop digging. If nothing happened on Jan 6 he is still dead today from natural causes.
Very unlikely he just happened to die by natural causes. He collapsed in his office immediately after returning from riot duty, and never recovered.
Unlikely how? You have zero knowledge about this guy other than fucking cursory speculation
He collapsed in his office immediately after returning from riot duty
Collect your $.50, you disingenuous cunt. Redefining 'immediately' to mean the next day definitely qualifies you for payment.
Or have you simply forgotten that both his mother and brother have debunked that particular pile of bullshit? Nah... I am sure the lying is part and parcel of being a such a raging cunt.
You don't have the story straight. He collapsed in his office on January 6th. The same day.
He died the next day, but he collapsed immediately after returning to his office on January 6th.
Nope. He told his brother that night he was fine. You have it wrong.
Sicknick’s brother told ProPublica that he got a text from Sicknick after the riot saying he got pepper-sprayed twice but was in good shape.
The next day, the family was told that Sicknick had suffered a blood clot and a stroke, according to the brother.
Sicknick’s mother said the family is also in the dark about what exactly happened, though they believed that being bludgeoned was not the cause of death.
“He wasn’t hit on the head, no. We think he had a stroke, but we don’t know anything for sure. We’d love to know what happened,” she said in an interview.
Read the bolded part you lying sack of shit.
You also neglected to cite the research that shows stokes and blood clots as side effects of exposure to bear spray.
Because you can't.
Because you are LYING.
“He told his brother that night he was fine.”
a) That in no way changes the fact that he collapsed in his office after returning from riot control duty.
b) He obviously was not fine. He died shortly after telling his brother that.
Gave cite about pepper spray and strokes yesterday, when Mother’s Lament asked for one.
Have provided cites before. Not going to keep doing so, because I don’t believe you are open to learning from a cite.
He obviously was not fine. He died shortly after telling his brother that.
So, I got you from 'immediately' to 'shortly after'. Care to waffle some more, cunt?
Gave cite about pepper spray and strokes yesterday
Nazi research? Because scientists are not allowed to gas people for studies.
Fuck you. The guy had an aneurism. That isn't anybody else's fault. You could just as easily blame a guy that cut him off in traffic.
Hey Mormon pussy: someone being smarter than you doesn't make them a troll or means they get paid.
You shouldn't be criticizing anyone. You wear magic underwear and pray to a DISPROVEN perv god.
Goddamn evil pussy.
EXTERMINATE THE MORMONS!
People die of natural causes hourly shit for brains.
Yes, but in this case it is unlikely he just happened to die of natural causes unrelated to having just been on riot control duty. He collapsed right after returning to the police station.
False. Quit lying, cunt.
Your perv god is false you goddamn pussy
KAR is a pedo traitor bigot liar
"It is so critical to your identity to absolve the Capitol rioters from any involvement in his death, but the problem is it is obvious to any non-partisan observer that Sicknick died as a consequence of doing his job trying to control the rioters."
Steaming piles of shit like this is the reason you don't bother engaging TDS-addled shits.
Yet you do, over and over, every day. You even feel compelled to tell everyone when you hit the flag button, which ridiculously defeats the purpose.
You are all about anger and signaling to your fellow CACLLs.
Whereas you are all about obfuscation and signaling to your fellow cuckolds.
Mormon Chuck needs to die
Unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot, and he can visit you so you have the chance to make good on that personally.
Pedo traitor bigot liar
Oh shit. Great acronym. Did you coin it?
Yes. We are allowed to do that in the U.S. of fucking A. Not like Canada where you have to get approval to coin an acronym.
The White Knight
October.22.2020 at 3:18 pm
It means conservative and conservative-leaning libertarian, and I coined it.
Is there a law in Canada that ordinary people aren’t allowed to coin acronyms. Here in the godamn USA we have freedom of speech..
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"You are all about anger and signaling to your fellow CACLLs."
You, OTOH, are all about being
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Obvious from what facts? Media narrative?
It's possible that he died because of something that happened at the protest/riot. But far from obvious since the fire extinguisher story seems not to have happened.
Yes, the report that he was hit with a fire extinguisher was retracted. It is unlikely that was the cause of his death.
However, there is video of his being sprayed in the face with bear spray. That is likely to be the "something that happened at the protest/riot".
Even if it is not, as you said, "It’s possible that he died because of something that happened at the protest/riot." It's not just "possible", though, it is very, very likely.
Yes, the report that he was hit with a fire extinguisher was retracted. It is unlikely that was the cause of his death.
You have the giant balls to claim that it is 'unlikely' that something that didn't happen was the cause of death?
The level of your commitment to permanently associating Jan 6 to deadly violence is astounding. It goes way beyond stupidity and into the realm of truly evil.
Are you always this confused about what is going on? The current theory is that bear spray may have killed him, not a fire extinguisher.
The current theory is that bear spray may have killed him
Keep flailing, evil cunt.
You're the evil Mormon Chuck.
Pussy
Fuck off mormon traitor
"...Even if it is not, as you said, “It’s possible that he died because of something that happened at the protest/riot.” It’s not just “possible”, though, it is very, very likely."
TDS-addled asshole is.
STILL.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
LOL, Sevo thinks anger is equivalent to thoughtfulness.
Reason can't even acknowledge the fact that the federal prosecutors in these cases are all withholding bail ensuring many of these protestors get at least some time in jail.
It won't really matter. None of these cases will ever see the inside of a courtroom. They're all falling apart, and they'll either plead people out on some petty bullshit or quietly drop the charges. They just need to keep it on life support long enough to ram through whatever authoritarian garbage they want to ram through, and by then it'll be too late. They'll find another boogey man to replace this one by then.
Man, someone check on wk/sqrsly. Apparently the bear spray change never took off.
We shall see.
Keep grasping at straws, TDS-addled shit.
HO2
NACL — you are the last person who should comment on my HO2 typo.
I clarified someone else's caps error. You fought like hell insisting that the dihydrogen monoxide was HO2.
B.S. You didn't realize the significance of capital letters in chemical formulas until I pointed it out.
And I never "fought like hell". I made one comment with a typo.
1. You're a liar.
2. You insisted over and over that "technically" HO2 and H2O are the same thing.
3. You're a liar.
Cite #2 please.
Haha because you can’t deny 1&3.
"It is also known as hydrogen dioxide. It has lots of names" - when correcting someone who said hydrogen monoxide vs dihydrogennmonoxide, is neither a typo nor innocent. It shows you to bebscientifically illiterate. You are a fraud, as always
You're flat out lying here.
Furthermore the context of Unicorn Abattoir's "NACL" was obviously in mockery of you, but here you are trying to misrepresent it.
Finally, NACL is a capitalization error, whereas you fucked up on the whole chemical formula and then doubled down.
"And I never “fought like hell”
Yes you did:
https://reason.com/2021/01/12/antique-plate-fiestaware-school-evacuation/#comment-8695663
The White Knight
January.12.2021 at 1:57 pm
Okay well I think technically both work in this situation.
The White Knight
January.12.2021 at 2:02 pm
Whatever.
The White Knight
January.12.2021 at 2:01 pm
First, I wasn’t even wrong, we were both correct in this situation. But yes, I probably should not have been so quick to correct you when we were both right.
The White Knight
January.12.2021 at 2:47 pm
I misread what you wrote and accidentally corrected you, then apologized to you. You don’t need to be so harsh.
Damn. Brutal Dee.
LOL, Mother's Lament, you just did me a huge favor by linking to the original conversation. The handle on all those posts you are quoting is: T-h-e-HAIR SPACE-HAIR SPACE-HAIR SPACE-HAIR SPACE-HAIR SPACE-W-h-i-t-e-HAIR SPACE-HAIR SPACE-HAIR SPACE-HAIR SPACE-K-n-i-g-h-t
That is, it was all a spoof by Tulpa. This whole time I thought you guys were telling the truth about my having argued for hydrogen di-oxide and I just didn't remember the conversation.
Hilarious!
"sure yeah, that's the ticket!"
"Actually, water would be “hydrogen di-oxide”, not monoxide. Guessing you didn’t ever actually take a chemistry class." -WK
You pathetic illiterate lying gaslighting POS
LOL, went back and looked at the comments where I supposedly said this. It was all comments Tulpa had posted using a spoofed handle. Turns out I never made the hydrogen dioxide comments in the first place.
Gotta admit, you got me good on this one, Tulpa.
Really, this is a new low for you.
Taking a guilty until proven innocent approach is so Dee.
I’m not taking a stance on legality, or on whether the DoJ will decide to press charges for killing.
I am saying Sicknick was most likely killed as a result of the riots. This is just a common sense judgement that does not need to meet a legal standard for criminal trials. It’s a very unassuming observation on my part, but you guys wouldn’t recognize non-partisan impartiality if it bit you.
Non-partisan impartiality would be refraining from use of the term "riot" for a mostly peaceful protest of questionable election results stemming from the refusal to verify mail ballots using the standards previously employed
This is just a common sense judgement
A guy dies of a stroke and it is common sense judgement to blame a bunch of people who caused him some stress the day before?
A level of partisan hackery off the fucking scale. Go back to claiming he was clubbed to death like a baby seal. It certainly couldn't make you look like more of an idiot.
"A guy dies of a stroke and it is common sense judgement to blame a bunch of people who caused him some stress the day before?"
You just made my point.
You just made my point.
Not even remotely, you fuckweasel.
Fuck off mormon traitor
Pedo traitor bigot liar
"You just made my point."
Lying pieces of shit post this often when their hat has been handed to them.
Fuck off and die, TS-addled asshole.
But prosecutors have since said it is not clear whether the group was targeting the Capitol before Jan. 6. …”
Turns out that being able to monitor social media posts and text messages 24/7 might not work out in your favor if nothing in their posting history shows what you're accusing them of doing.
I mean, I guess they could alter evidence like the news media does, because who other than maybe Glenn Greenwald or Matt Taibbi is going to call them on it?
Anyway, if the cases are falling apart, that doesn't matter to the FBI or DoJ. The process is the punishment, and they're hoping to ruin these people's lives by ensuring the remain destitute. If anyone does happen to get jail time, it's just a bonus.
Gotta stick up for your traitor pals!
Traitor
Unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot.
Hi KARen!
"Vaccine stops brain tumor growth in humans: We're beginning to exploit the Achilles' heel of cancer"
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/3/28/2023353/-Vaccine-stops-brain-tumor-growth-in-humans-We-re-beginning-to-exploit-the-Achilles-heel-of-cancer
LOL. Okay, using Kos just gave away your game. Good long play on parodying an idiot lefty. Got many of us. Kudos.
Strazele links to article chock full of very detailed chemical information. JesseAz dismisses without reading because of the source.
So, what are the ground rules for debate here, JesseAz.
I thought that, even when someone gives a cite from a conservative news source, I am expected to read it and consider what it says. But, apparently, the rule is that we can simply dismiss cites based on source, rather than judging on content.
Caw caw!
You are actually defending Daily Kos which is one of the most laughable/lefty conspiracy sites of all time. Hilarious.
But not a lefty folks!
Kos is Farsi for cunt.
Ah, can count on misogyny to rear its head amongst the CACLLs.
Quiet, kos!
CAClLs
COOLCLLS
CODICILS
I agree that Kos has a heavy left bias.
Did you look at the article? It was well written.
Also, it wasn’t even a political topic, yet you treated it as such.
You are defending Kos you non lefty you. Lol.
Bit we know what ot takes for you to believe something, it has to be well written. See discussion above on Capitol riots. Lol.
No discussion of facts, you just say it looks and sounds good.
He didn't treat it any way at all because he didn't say a thing about the content of the article. You are such a little bitch. You so clearly frequent Reason just to promote lefty talking points and attempt to chase away libertarians by annoying the shit out of them.
"So, what are the ground rules for debate here, JesseAz."
1) Don't waste time with lefty shits like Strazele.
2) Don't waste time with TDS-addled shits.
LOL, yet you do. All the time. Every day.
TDS-addled asshole claims pointing out that TDS-addled asshole is full of shit is 'engaging' TDS-addled asshole.
TDS-addled asshole lies.
Yes, Daily Kos. The site that proved 9/11 was an inside job because someone couldn't melt chicken wire using lighter fluid.
Strazele links to article chock full of very detailed chemical information
Does it have the chemical formula for water?
Nope, nor does it have the chemical formula for salt, which is NaCl, not NACL.
Lol, he was mocking your fuck-up, but here you are trying to weaponize it.
So is DailyKos hardest hit from getting rid of brain tumors?
Great article thanks. Explains a very complicated subject nicely.
GBM is a very mean and nasty tumor.
This one is hilarious. Dude is so narcissistic.
Trump wanders into Mar-a-Lago wedding reception, proceeds to run through a laundry list of his own personal grievances instead of toasting the happy couple: “Do you miss me yet?” https://t.co/NGBFhDGjzJ
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) March 28, 2021
TDS-addled shits are so obsessed.
Fuck off and die, pod. Your 6th grade class will be happy to be rid of you.
I love you too!
Fuck off and die, pod. Your 6th grade class will be happy to be rid of you.
“Daily Beast”.
LOL
He used daily kos just above, lol. Good parody.
I think if you don't want a Trump speech at your reception, maybe not have it at Mar a Lago?
If they're having it at Mar-a-Lago I'm pretty sure that that's exactly what they wanted.
Oh, boy. A marriage built on a mutual desire to hear Trump rant about all the injustices he has suffered.
God forbid anyone have opinions that differ from yours.
But he totes isn't a lefty people!
LoS....Who the fuck is Jim Eagle? Do you know?
Sounds like a native american to me.
Trump wanders into Mar-a-Lago wedding reception
Was he with the 2 Corinthians who walked into a bar?
You fucksticks are more obsessed with Trump than Trump. Keep it up. It makes it even more obvious that everything you post is bullshit.
Trying to fifty-cent libertarians must be like herding cats. This place isn't exactly Huffpo.
I wonder if these guys get double pay?
KILL Mormons
This is the worst bot yet.
Over the weekend, China and Iran entered into a 25-year economic and strategic partnership, in which China will be investing $400 billion into Iran's, "oil, gas, petrochemical, renewables and nuclear energy infrastructure".
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-27/china-signs-25-year-deal-with-iran-in-challenge-to-the-u-s
There are so many important aspects to this for American foreign policy, it's hard to know where to start, but the observation that the Biden administration's choice to head off the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and their allies (and to pull the rug out out from under their reapproachment efforts with Israel) seems especially thickheaded in light of this deal.
Trump's policies were about helping those countries form an alliance among themselves to stand up against Iranian aggression in the region, so we're no longer responsible for guaranteeing the security of the Middle East. Biden undid those efforts to keep the United States on the front line of those conflicts--because he wants the U.S. responsible for guaranteeing Middle Eastern security.
It's now obvious that taking that pressure off of Iran does not mean they will renounce their aggression or capitulate to reason--not that anyone but TDS addled chatroom Pollyannas thought that's what Biden was trying to achieve.
Why is the United States in direct conflict with Iran better than U.S. allies armed and defending themselves against Iranian aggression without us?
The Biden administration is at best stupid and at worst, they're setting us up for a direct conflict with Iran. Assuming they're too stupid to see where this is headed is giving the Biden administration the benefit of the doubt.
I don't understand the Democrats on this one. I can think of conspiratorial evil reasons for their actions, but I can't think of any stupid reasons for their actions. It makes no sense to undermine a policy that worked after two decades of policies that didn't.
We must wipe clean off the surface of the earth all evidence that Trump existed.
Pretty sure the pussy fingerprints are long gone.
"It makes no sense to undermine a policy that worked after two decades of policies that didn’t."
The left has all but abandoned Wilsonian foreign policy in practice. They're still liberal internationalists, when it comes to countries that take their place in the international order and behave themselves, but they're also neocons.
You say two decades of policies that didn't work (I think it's more like 16 years, and then a president who was undermined at every turn by a military and intelligence establishment), but if you're talking about the years between September of 2001 and 2016 as a disaster, you're not looking at it from a neconservative standpoint.
Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya are all going according to plan. The problem was things like Obama abandoning Iraq too soon, Trump getting in the way of the invasion of Syria, and Trump trying to get us out of Afghanistan. If you see tremendous costs in terms of treasure, lives, and suffering, if you see little benefit in the toppling of Hussein and a power vacuum that Iran has exploited, etc., etc., then you're not looking at this through the eyes of neoconservatives.
In the aftermath of dictators being removed from power, there is a tremendous amount of destruction and carnage, but those dictators need to be removed from power anyway. The predictions about them meeting us with flowers and how the wars would pay for themselves, etc. were baloney, but "noble lies" have been baked into neconservatism since Leo Strauss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie#Leo_Strauss
The travesty of the War on Terror is not a travesty if you're a neoconservative. Everything is going according to plan except for those presidents and policies that deviated from the plan. Syria and Iran are next on the list, and it is not for Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Bahrain and others to spread Pax Americana. We don't make friends with the heathen. American freedom must be spread at the point of American guns.
Just think: If we had started tapping all the petroleum, shale, and Uranium the U.S. Geological Survey had discovered back in the Eighties, every one of these Islamofascist and Ba'athist regimes would be broke from the cheaper energy supply and they would be off the face of this Earth...all without the U.S. firing a single shot and without injury or loss to one U.S. life!
9/11/2001 may have been just another day, with the planes of paasengers all headed for Six Flags Over Mecca and Medina, or the Pistachio Ice Cream convention and Rave Party in Tehran! The resorts and casinos of Libya and Egypt and all of North Africa would turn the Mediterranean into Le Grande Riviera for French and other Euro tourists!
Yep, doing for yourself at home and being the good example to others is truly the best way to change the world.
Well, without a President capable of face to face unscripted conversations with other heads of state, there is not much that can be done to prevent a Communist Chinese takeover.
And Biden has taken steps to try to capitulate to both China and Iran.
I'm not there, yet, in a lot of ways, but I'm coming around. I've always argued that trade with China was in our best interests--and that remains so from an economic standpoint. However, if they're actively taking the side of our enemies, that stance needs to be reconsidered in that light. North Korea was a legacy of the 1950s. When China started dropping its support for, say, Shining Path or some of the the other communist revolutionaries at the end of the Cold War, their ascension to the WTO became possible. If they're going back to fighting proxy wars against us, then the rest of our relationship with them needs to be reconsidered in that light.
And that's about as far as I'll go for now.
Glad you saw the light, Ken = I’ve always argued that trade with China was in our best interests–and that remains so from an economic standpoint. However, if they’re actively taking the side of our enemies, that stance needs to be reconsidered in that light.
China will invade Taiwan. It is only a matter of time. This country needs to immediately start preparing for war in the Taiwan Strait.
Even trade with China is not worth it from an economic standpoint if they are working to subvert the country through grey zone warfare and overtly through threats of nuclear escalation, to say nothing of siding with our enemies. Both Russia and China actually became more, not less, belligerent about retaining the right to resort to nuclear warfare as an initiating response, after the Obama administration announced that it was dialing back its nuclear deterrence posture.
A lot of people, especially libertarians, don't want to accept that China is a full-blown adversary, because they're afraid if we pull our manufacturing out of there, they might have to pay an extra $5 for a tshirt from Walmart or an extra $2 for a hammer.
What has policy with Iran and China accomplished? Everyone else is still trading with them. So are we it is just costing more. They are both more aggressive in the economic and military spheres.
About the only thing that is maybe having some effect is the US Navy and a few rocket attacks.
Iran is testing missiles and spinning up the centrifuges. China has only become worse in civil rights.
Biden is more hawkish and more of a trade protectionist than Trump was. I don’t see things getting better.
Interesting. Guess they figure even the S. China Sea reserves aren't going to be able to meet their required consumption. Wonder how they're getting the minerals from Iran to China? Pipeline across Afghanistan and up through the bird's neck might do it. And avoid their otherwise considerable SLOC security issues.
What is Delta-8 THC and why are authorities freaking out about it?
IT’S A NEW VARIANT!
Looks like the Suez Canal traffic jam will break:
"Traffic in Suez Canal resumes after stranded ship refloated"
https://www.reuters.com/article/egypt-suezcanal-ship-int/traffic-in-suez-canal-resumes-after-stranded-ship-refloated-idUSKBN2BL12O
Evergreen never should have partnered with Swift.
"NBC News reports, and 'the company remains billions of dollars in debt,' having 'lost a combined $355 million in the third and fourth quarters of 2020.')"
Great, on top of this they have tax loss carryforwards, so we get to hear from imbecile leftists how DoorDash doesn't pay any taxes for the next several years.
For a long time, I've been pointing out that the real objective of the Democrats' crusade against "hate speech" is really about purging the public square of Republican ideas.
They believe that opposition to abortion is misogynist; opposition to gay marriage is homophobic; support for a wall on our southern border is xenophobic, and opposition to affirmative action is racist. Regardless of whether you agree with any one of or all of those summations, the fact is that practically every Republican in the country holds at least one of those views, and purging social media of everyone who holds one of them would means removing Republicans from the public square. Going after "conspiracy theories" and "misinformation" more or less accomplishes the same thing in practice.
The Wall Street Journal ran a pretty good summary of some reason victims of this kind of purge. Some highlights:
1) Google deplatformed a YouTube channel over "misinformation" because they ran a video in which a Catholic bishop criticized the use of fetal cells in vaccines. Can't have people questioning abortion in the context of vaccines, I guess?
2) Another Catholic Bishop was deplatformed by Twitter for opposing assisted suicide.
3) Amazon banned a religious book that challenged transgenderism.
4) Facebook banned a religious publisher from advertising their books, including "The Devil and Karl Marx", or “Motherhood Redeemed", apparently because the ad said the book challenges "feminism in the modern world"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/big-tech-censors-religion-too-11616959164?
I don't share any of those religious views per se (with the possible exception of Marxism being fundamentally incompatible with Christianity), and I'm not interested in defending any of those views. What I'd like average American to understand, however, is that when the Democrats are talking about going after "hate speech", "misinformation", and "conspiracy theories", they aren't talking about targeting Twitter trolls, bullies, and the Proud Boys. They're talking about coming after the speech of your cousins, your coworkers, and maybe even you.
And this situation does not fit a theoretical argument about whether tech companies should be free to make choices for themselves about their own association rights. The Democrats have repeatedly threatened to break up Big Tech companies over "hate speech", "misinformation", and "conspiracy theories". They have a plan to do so that was publicly released in October of 2020 (linked below).
The Democrats are using the coercive power of the antitrust divisions of the Justice Department and the FTC–to threaten to break up Big Tech companies if they don’t disassociate from whomever the Democrats want in the name of censoring speech they don’t like. Freedom of association is a serious consideration, but the Democrat controlled government forcing social media companies to deplatform people for expressing their religious beliefs is not an excellent example of protecting the First Amendment--as some of our misguided fellow libertarians want you to believe.
My old link to the report is busted.
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic lawmakers are calling for Congress to rein in Big Tech, possibly forcing Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple to break up their businesses, while making it harder for them to acquire others and imposing new rules to safeguard competition.
The proposals in a report issued Tuesday follow a 15-month investigation by a House Judiciary Committee panel into the companies’ market dominance.
Those kinds of forced breakups through a legislative overhaul would be a radical step for Congress to take toward a powerful industry. The tech giants for decades have enjoyed light-touch regulation and star status in Washington, but have come under intensifying scrutiny and derision over issues of competition, consumer privacy and hate speech.
----Associated Press, October 6, 2020
https://apnews.com/article/technology-50e69e921c6699a3edbd730c12292436
It's an end-run around the 1A. They can't constitutionally prohibit speech, but they CAN use regulatory power to de facto prohibit speech, by slapping a "hate speech" or "misinformation" label on it and requiring tech companies to censor for them or face regulatory destruction.
Well, at least until the nuke the filibuster and pack the courts, at which point they no longer have to pretend to care about constitutional rights. They'll just have their new, liberal courts rubber stamp speech codes and then tech companies are off the hook.
The tobacco industry signed away its right to free speech as part of the consent decree that settled the liability claims against them.
The final objective of most every antitrust case is a consent decree. The government can't violate your First Amendment rights, but you can sign them away if you want--much like you can waive your right to a jury, waive your right to remain silent, waive your right to an attorney, etc.
In this case, the social media companies want speech codes--because they're advertising platforms and the advertisers want speech codes. Big Tech is worried about being broken up, however, or having restrictions put on future acquisitions of other companies. They'll sign onto the consent decree the Biden administration is negotiating through the antitrust cases.
In the meantime, they're basically doing whatever the Democratic party says because the Democratic party and the government are the same thing now.
Democratic lawmakers are calling for Congress to rein in Big Tech, possibly forcing Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple to break up their businesses, while making it harder for them to acquire others and imposing new rules to safeguard competition.
These guys aren't going anywhere, unless you have the Democratic equivalent of a Theodore Roosevelt who bucks his own party to bring anti-trust actions against them. The Tech Trust's collaboration with the DNC has been far too beneficial to the party within the sphere of national elections and manufacturing the cultural consensus for them to break these guys up, especially when the NSA and CIA are already exploiting their platforms to spy on Americans.
Muh Private Companies pose no threat to Rights
I use my bicycle to delver via food delivery apps. I have done it in Washington DC and the surrounding suburbs, Cleveland, and both Northern and Southern Cal.
Because the apps now have to used new methods to pay extra money per hour in California, I can only use them in California and not when I travel to other states. (I could likely change the settings in the app but it is not immediate and would mean days of lost earnings every time I make the changes).
As we reflect in our time of Covid, it is time to see what was missed, what was wrong, etc. One of which? Shutting down society for the betterment of fat people.
Severely obese COVID-19 patients were 61% more likely to die and 33% more likely to face hospitalization than their peers at healthy weights.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/we-need-to-stop-overlooking-one-politically-incorrect-covid-19-death-factor
Society altered their entire livelihood to protect those that intentionally chose their own health issues (see Jeff). They asked everyone else to reduce their risk while they continued to grow theirs.
As COVID-19 lockdowns and restrictions have trapped people in their homes over the last year, many have gained weight. A new American Psychological Association survey showed that 42% gained weight over the last year, an average of 29 pounds.
Let people manage their own risks. Do not force others to mitigate risks for those who choose not to mitigate their own.
Right, their entire way of going about things was, in essence, to reduce everyone down to our least common denominator. Just like education, for that matter.
Wait a sec. It's kind of what all the democrat policies do....hmmm.
an average of 29 pounds.
Holy fuck. Eat a carrot, Jeffy, so I can take off the damn mask.
You shouldn't be criticizing others weight you fat fuck.
You cared more about a Wendy's burning down then the capitol riot.
Fat Mormon fuck
Whatever pedo traitor bigot liar
Paging Sullum:
On Thursday, Pelosi, justifying her efforts, said, “If I wanted to be unfair, I wouldn’t have seated the Republican from Iowa, because that was my right on the opening day. I would have just said, ‘You’re not seated,’ and that would have been my right, as Speaker, to do.”
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/03/26/media-fact-checkers-silent-as-nancy-pelosi-falsely-claims-she-can-unseat-any-member-of-congress-she-wants-n1435201
Fortifying Democracy, one House seat at a time.
He's too busy ignoring that as hard as he can.
Subtle unpersoning, “the Republican from Iowa “.
"I was not anticipating that there would be this extra fee. But I'm not sure that I can stop them from doing that," said Kalb, who represents the northern part of the city. "It is concerning that the fee might be misinterpreted that the city of Oakland is charging something."
I love this quote so much! I'm not sure I can remember something so concise that perfectly embodies the folly of these people.
ENB....No reaction to the pathetic performance of POTUS Biden last Thursday? What....you forgot? The man successfully put together three complete thoughts at the start of the Presser, and then became increasingly disorganized in thought.
Cheat sheets? What would you have said if POTUS Trump had used cheat sheets?
Whether you and the leftists at Emote want to acknowledge it or not, we have a very cognitively challenged man in the White House. That is a direct threat to our national security.
The party doesn't talk about events that never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQvBeV9x7pI
Nothing on the Uber Eats DC murder huh? Guess it doesn't fit the narrative here.
If a murder takes place that can't be spun as religious or conservative, it is local.
Murder mormons
So... are we going to talk about vaccine passports?
Kinda a big deal.
Modern forearm tattoos.
ENB....Do you think that releasing covid-19 positive illegal aliens into the country might be contributing to the increased case count we are currently experiencing? Nah....
SpRiNg BrEaKeRs!
The only proven contribution of illegal aliens to the USA - communicable diseases.
They contribute more than mormon fucks like you.
Bigoted mormon pussy.
Do the country a favor: strangle your fat cunt wife with her magic underwear.
Coward!
The left, everybody.
I speak for myself and no one else.
By your logic all canadians are fascists like you.
STFU, grow up and remove yourself from the adult conversations taking place. It'll be better for everyone involved, you pedo traitor bigot liar.
lol
One of the more amusing trends coming out of the Hollywood set recently is claiming that if you're not constantly in a mind-altered state, or if you're self-medicating with one substance but not another, that means you're not an addict.
Demi Lovato talks about being "California sober" because she can't go a single day without drinking or taking drugs. Seth Rogen talks about smoking weed all the time for his "Tourette's and OCD," while claiming he's sober for not drinking booze anymore. Miley Cyrus is doing the typical "oh i fell off the wagon again LOL" thing that addicts do when they're bouncing between sobriety and indulgence.
At least Dax Shepherd came clean and admitted he relapsed because he's an addict, not for some bullshit reason to justify those addictive behaviors.
People don’t see it as a problem so long as they are functional. Willie Nelson has smoked more weed than the State of Oregon. He is still going strong. Winston Churchill started his day with whiskey and a cigar.
Are you a loser 12 stepper like Sevo?
You're both Traitors
Unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot.
I'll take that as a yes.
What's it like being an inferior loser pussy who can't handle his booze?
Goddamn pussy
What's it like being too much of a pussy to unmask his email like he promised? For someone who talks big, you sure don't want anyone finding out who you are.
Unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot.
redrocksisapussy@byu.edu
That's not unmasking your email, you hicklib faggot.
What is it really, ILuvBugChasin@GRIDS.com?
Please, KAR is clearly an @nambla.org user.
Hi KARen!
Pussy
I wouldn't say that that means you aren't an addict. But I also wouldn't say that frequently using mind altering substances necessarily means you are an addict. Or if it does, then perhaps being an addict isn't necessarily a terrible problem.
Why is it wrong for Door Dash to charge its customers a fee, but not wrong for them to charge restaurants something like 30% of the total order, which basically takes away all the profit?
And yes, restaurants don't have to use it, but then they will be retaliated against by these companies, affecting their review scores and even search engine results.
People who use doordash are likely well off to begin with. They shouldn't be having their meals subsidized by restaurants and the delivery drivers (who likely end up reducing the value of their car more than they make).
There's a reason that delivery food was traditionally only a few things, high profit items like pizza.
The problem is the fee, but for the interference from the Oakland Councilman, wouldn't exist. That is the crux of the article. No one is surprised that DD makes things more expensive or outraged that they would pass on cost increases to customers. Well no one with a three digit IQ anyway...
Well no one with a three digit IQ anyway…
By definition, half of any range is at or below average.
On a related note, 34.04% of eligible voters got Biden elected.
Fuck off Mormon traitor pussy
Hi KARen!
Let me know if you visit the northwest pussy
Unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot, and he can visit you personally.
It's redrockswhiteprivilegeisatrator@gmail.com
Are you sure it's not KillAllRednecksLowTCellCount@yahoo.com?
KAR: Immapedotraitorbigotliar@nambla.org
How do you get bad reviews on a seevice you arent using?
Door Dash should hire attorneys as drivers, that way they can charge a 30 to 40 percent commission and lawyer lawmakers will lay off the regulations.
door dash is barely necessary now. go get your own food
door dash is barely necessary now. go get your own food
Hell, it's never been necessary to begin with. I've been shopping in-person for as long as this stupid pandemic response has been going on. DoorDash and other foodie apps are for urbanite townies who tend to do that shit anyway. They're also for fat fucks like chemjeff who find the energy it takes to throw on a muumuu, waddle to the car, drive to the store, ride the go-cart basket through the store, drive home, make 2-3 trips between the house and the car to bring in the groceries, and put them away to be too physically onerous.
My State is charging me a 5% fee on my sales tax because I don't file it by computer, as it's a cost of doing business I simply add it onto my bill. I even got a little stamp so I can itemize it on the bill
What is Delta-8 THC and why are authorities freaking out about it?
Delta-8 THC is the one Chuck Norris smokes. Or rather, Chuck Norris is the one Delta-8 THC smokes.
The author wrote:
"Consumers, in turn, may make up for this by ordering delivery food less often or making smaller or less pricey orders when they do."
That's one possibility. Here's how I think it actually works. Consumers are like businesses. You have in your mind a upper limit on the amount of money you're willing to spend on a meal (like a business has in mind and upper limit of total wages they can afford on a daily basis). Factored into that calculation is whatever the various taxes and fees add to the base bill.
You have no control over the new fee that doordash is passing along to you. You have no control over the prices the restaurant charges for its food. And, for many of us, you probably don't have much control over what you put in your cart before you submit your payment.
The only thing you can control is your tip. I suspect that many food delivery drivers are seeing their tips drop by part or all of this new regulatory fee, and we should be hearing about this completely expected outcome very soon.