George Floyd

A Lawyer for George Floyd's Family Says a Record-Breaking Settlement Gives Cities '27 Million Reasons' To Curtail Police Abuse

But the agreement could complicate Derek Chauvin's murder trial, and it leaves unresolved the question of whether qualified immunity would have blocked the lawsuit.

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The city of Minneapolis will pay $27 million to settle the federal lawsuit that George Floyd's family filed last July, two months after he died during an arrest for using a counterfeit $20 bill to buy cigarettes. Benjamin Crump, one of the family's lawyers, says the payout is the largest pretrial settlement ever in a wrongful death lawsuit involving excessive force by police.

The size of the settlement reflects the widespread outrage and nationwide protests provoked by the May 25 incident, during which former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck for more than eight minutes as the prone and handcuffed arrestee repeatedly complained that he could not breathe, begged for relief, and cried out for his mother. But it could complicate Chauvin's murder trial, and it leaves unresolved the question of whether the lawsuit could have overcome qualified immunity, a formidable barrier to federal civil rights claims.

So far seven jurors have been selected to hear the state case against Chauvin, who faces charges of second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Opening arguments were expected to begin on March 29.

Nearly all of the potential jurors had seen the shocking bystander video of Floyd's arrest, although the ones who have been seated said they were prepared to entertain defense arguments that Chauvin's use of force was appropriate. While it does not officially amount to an admission of fault, the city's decision to settle the case will make it harder to keep an open mind on that question. "Mary Moriarty, the former chief public defender in Minneapolis, said that the timing could hardly be worse for the [criminal] case and that Mr. Chauvin's lawyers might even ask for a mistrial," The New York Times reports.

Until this case, the city's biggest payout for a death caused by police was its $20 million settlement with the family of Justine Ruszczyk Damond, who was shot to death by Officer Mohamed Noor in 2017 after she called 911 to report a possible assault in the alley behind her house. But in that case, Noor had already been convicted of third-degree murder. He was later sentenced to 150 months in prison.

In addition to the city, Floyd's family sued Chauvin and three other former officers who were at the scene: Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng, who helped restrain Floyd, and Tou Thao, who failed to intervene despite repeated and emphatic warnings from bystanders that Floyd's life was in danger. Lane, Kueng, and Thao, who have been charged with aiding and abetting the assault on Floyd, will be tried separately from Chauvin.

The complaint filed by Floyd's family says the officers "had no reason to believe that Mr. Floyd was armed or dangerous" and "did not have a reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm" or "a reasonable belief that any other person was in danger of imminent bodily [harm] from Mr. Floyd." It adds that "every reasonable officer would have known that using force against a compliant, handcuffed individual who is not resisting arrest constitutes excessive force in violation of the Fourth Amendment."

More specifically, "Chauvin's use of deadly force in applying direct pressure to and kneeling on Mr. Floyd's neck was objectively unreasonable and violated clearly established law." Lane and Kueng's "use of force in applying direct pressure to and kneeling on Mr. Floyd's back" likewise "was objectively unreasonable and violated clearly established law." The complaint also faults Chauvin, Lane, and Kueng for "maintain[ing] Mr. Floyd in a prone position without properly monitoring his breathing or pulse." It says all four officers violated the Fourth Amendment by failing to "render medical aid following Mr. Floyd's complaints that he could not breathe and Mr. Floyd's loss of consciousness, each of which demonstrated a serious medical need."

The lawsuit argues that the city also bears responsibility for Floyd's death because it "tolerated, permitted, failed to correct, promoted, or ratified a number of customs, patterns, or practices that failed to provide for the safety of arrestees, detainees, and the like during arrest, including but not limited to the handcuffing and restraint process." It says the city failed to properly train its officers and encouraged them to "turn a blind eye to and not intervene [in] the use of excessive force."

It is well-established that the Fourth Amendment prohibits the use of excessive force during an arrest. But to proceed with their case, Floyd's relatives would have had to show it was "clearly established" at the time of his arrest that the specific restraint techniques Chauvin and his colleagues used qualified as excessive force in these circumstances. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit, which includes Minnesota, has heard a couple of cases in which detainees died after prolonged restraint in a prone, facedown position. In both cases, it concluded that lawsuits were barred by qualified immunity.

Those cases involved detainees who were actively resisting. Floyd, by contrast, initially resisted when the officers tried to put him in a patrol car but did not seem to be fighting them once he was pinned to the ground. While that factor presumably would have weighed against qualified immunity, it is impossible to say for sure. In practice, qualified immunity frequently requires defendants to identify precedents with nearly identical facts. As UCLA law professor Joanna Schwartz, a leading critic of qualified immunity, put it, Floyd's family "would have to find cases in which earlier defendants were found to have violated the law in precisely the same way."

The settlement not only means we won't find out how qualified immunity would have been applied in this case. It also means that question remains open in future cases, since there still will be no 8th Circuit precedent addressing facts like these.

Even without establishing such a precedent, large payouts like this one could encourage Minneapolis and other cities to adopt policies aimed at curtailing police abuse. "That trickles down to decisions in the communities across this country," said L. Chris Stewart, another lawyer representing Floyd's family. "When there is a city council or a mayor deciding, 'Oh, should we get rid of no-knock warrants, should we get rid of chokeholds, do we want to change these policies?'" he suggested, "they have 27 million reasons now why they should. And that will make decisions happen. That will make accountability happen."

The Times reports that the money for the settlement will come from "a fund for legal payouts and workers' compensation claims," and "residents have expressed concern that their taxes are subsidizing payments for the misconduct of the police while failing to hold officers accountable." But according to City Coordinator Mark Ruff, "officials were confident that the Floyd agreement would not lead to an increase in property taxes."

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    1. Look, it’s Ken the resident racist. What are you outraged about this time?

      1. Qualified immunity only protects individual officers, not the City of Minneapolis. It, like big pharma, has no qualified immunity, and can be sued if a municipal policy or custom contributed to George Floyd’s death.

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  2. $27 million and they’re still going to burn the city to the ground. Worst ransom ever. Sheeeeeeeeiiiiiiittt!

      1. Well, come one. Let us be fair. He did ask to be restrained on the ground. Had he overdosed and died in the back of the cruiser, the family probably could have settled for at least twice as much. That was his biggest mistake. Location, location, location!

        1. I have a strong feeling that George didn’t often consider his family’s welfare during his daily search for drugs.

          1. So racist of you to imply that George Floyd was on welfare.

    1. I want to know how they came up with that figure. Usually it is estimated career earnings with punative x3 or about that. But apparently ODIng on fentanyl is worth a shit ton of money.

      1. Divided the damage done to the city by 20?

      2. Well, based on that formula, the settlement should have been about $320 including the punitive damages. And that’s giving George the benefit of improbably earning $80 legit some time in his lifetime.

        What they’ve done here is make multi-millionaires of a group of people who largely didn’t give a damn about him [reasonably so] when he was alive and of whom the biggest majority are and have been a net drain on the system themselves. Suddenly they are all bereaved and feeling this “tragic loss of George”, which can only be compensated in terms of millions of taxpayer dollars. Ironically, this doesn’t count as earned income, won’t be taxed, and possibly won’t even disqualify the recipients from several government programs. This reminds me of a city bus accident I saw last week where 20 people jumped on the bus and started holding their necks and moaning.

        The settlement was absurd and agreed to by people who will suffer no personal financial loss. The punitive aspect of this is against the property owners in Minneapolis as their tax bill next year takes a massive hike. The only true winner here has yet to be decided because it is those who will ultimately swindle the family members out of their windfall. Check back in 2-5 years and you’ll find that several will have died and the rest will be all but broke.

    2. What is one supposed to think, when people in Minneapolis protest against an allegedly racist Trump and “systemic racism”, because of the way a cop they hired, trained and managed, dealt with Floyd? Trump had nothing to do with it. And I saw a clip on TV of a police training video, training the police to do exactly what Chauvin did, though I can’t say if there’s any training about how long it’s safe to do so.

      The way I see it, is the people in Minneapolis are really mad about how the people they elected ran their city and police, but the Democrats managed to blame Trump’s alleged racism. BTW, why isn’t the fact that Trump dated a black woman for a couple of years reported with that allegation? Or how about the large number of blacks he’s hired? So how is Trump still racist?

  3. I like how they think the “city” is paying.

    1. Exactly, the city doesn’t care. They’ll just raise taxes when they need to pay off more families

    2. At least the Jewish mayor kneeled before Floyd’s golden coffin and prayer for forgiveness for his white privilege.

      1. He was just trying to see if it was real gold…

    3. Typically, in a wrongful death case, you multiply the decedent’s earning capacity (accounting for increases in earnings over time) and multiply it by the number of years they were expected to continue working. In addition, you usually tack on as damages the decedent’s expected contributions to the household, damages for loss of consortium, and the emotional distress suffered by the decedent.

      As far as I can tell, at the time of his death Floyd was was a part-time security guard at a night club barely scraping by, and a full time drug addict. The autopsy report makes a compelling case that he was well on his way to dying anyway had the cops never bothered to intervene. Frankly, the damages should have been $0 dollars.

      From that $27 million settlement, the family will keep $18 million, with the remaining third going to Crump. Quite a windfall. I fully expect the family to completely blow through the money over the next five years.

      1. Ghetto lottery strikes again!
        Pay up whitey.

        1. Our “totally not racist” resident alt-right Trump cultists just having a Monday morning “totally not racist” conversation.

          Nothing to see here, except a little economic anxiety being expressed.

          1. De Oppresso Liber = ohlookMarketthugs

          2. No Black man should fear for his life when robbing a liquor store. Hands up, don’t shoot! Black Lives Matter!

          3. You are just mad that you flunked your Blacked! audition even after cramming all those cocks down your throat, while all your girlfriend had to do was be 4’7″.

            1. I don’t get to sit at the cool kids table so I don’t know what “all your girlfriend had to do was be 4’7″”. Can anyone explain this to me.

              1. Your girlfriend can explain it, but she’ll probably prefer not to because it’ll make you feel bad.

          4. I spent 16 years in SF teams rooms and never once met a liberal. What was that MOS again?

            1. Admiral McRaven probably counts for both, albeit the SEALs have always done their own thing.

              Oddly, of all the combat arms branches, I’d think 18-Series guys would be the most liberal of the bunch. Even if that meant they were moderates, or classical liberals politically.

              1. You are way off. Liberal? My entire weapons class came from Ranger Battalion and the 82nd. Maybe the Chaplain. The standard team guy is in his 20s and 30s, he only listens to politicians in the chow hall when wars are brewing. There are right wing guys due to religious beliefs and anti-abortion. Gun grabbers are never going to be popular with SF guys. They are counter to the the entire organization’s beliefs.
                As for Presidents, Reagan and Bush Sr treated SF very well. Bill and Hillary threw SF under the bus many times and were universally hated. There were SF snipers on counter-sniper duty protecting Hilly when she lied about the sniper in Bosnia. It was a slap in the face to every man there and people got their asses chewed. Nobody wanted to call “The First Cunt” a liar.
                Obama was also never popular. Hated would be a closer approximation. He promised to end Afghanistan and Iraq, he didn’t, twice. SF lost a lot of good men for no gain. A lot of people were sitting in Afghanistan taking fire and unable to fight back while the Generals and Contractors got rich for eight years.
                I wasn’t around for Trump. I imagine that he was popular. I’ve still never met an SF guy that would vote for Hillary. Nobody in SF is that left.

                1. The increased diverse background of knowledge needed to make a good SF guy—the languages, cultural exposure, foreign liaison work, etc—makes guys that look at multiple ways to solve problems, and aren’t tied into one way being ‘the way.’ Unlike a lot of Big Army.

                  I’m not saying they’re Leftists. Far from it. I didn’t say they were. I’m saying they’re mentally and ideologically more flexible, looking at a giant distribution of their personality types, than say, looking at a distribution of the personality types of a Tank Commander in a Cavalry unit.

                  Which is what they were trained to do.

                  As for blaming Presidents for 20 years of shit in Central Asia, yeah, Obama takes a big chunk of blame. But he didn’t start OIF. Or let AQ’s higher ups flee to Pakistan and other places. It was Bush the Lesser.

                  (Whatever did happen to Zawahiri? Never hear his name anymore.) Mullah Omar is likely a greasy smear somewhere, but I’d not heard of Ayman being likely under a few thousand tons of rubble.)

                  1. Whatever did happen to Zawahiri?

                    Probably tiddling around in Ghazni somewhere.

                  2. They put a 1000 pounder on Zawhiri’s house and killed him.

                    SF had a massive shift in 2002-2003. Prior to that, standards were much higher. The age of operators dropped from 30s to low 20s. When Bush Jr started this crap, they wanted to increase the size of SF. Congressmen and Senators were showing up at Bragg, threatening careers and demanding that the standards be dropped so that operator numbers would be increased. Check out the story about “Night Letters”. The entire training section imploded. It is pitiful now. Adding women just finished it off. My sons and grandsons will never serve. It just isn’t worth it anymore.

                    1. “When Bush Jr started this crap, they wanted to increase the size of SF.”

                      Everyone wants to. There’s never enough guys. And never enough patience to wait for everyone to trickle through SFAS, BUD/S, and whatever the Marines and SAD get up to. Judging by the death of MSG Joshua Wheeler, they still get old guys in CAG, or whatever they call themselves now.

                      Abu (looks it up on wikipedia) Musab al-Zarqawi, he of AQI, got blown up by aerial bombing. I was talking about though about Ayman al-Zawahiri. “The Egyptian”, and who likely was the brains behind AQ. His ass is still running around.

                    2. “I was talking about though about Ayman al-Zawahiri. “The Egyptian”, and who likely was the brains behind AQ. His ass is still running around.”

                      Somebody has to be telling Obama what to tell Rice to tell BidenHarris to do…

          5. Yes, the law and damage calculations are racist. God damn, stick to stealing Valor.

            1. Floyd’s family can probably afford to buy a very nice house, and one pink diamond in the forehead.

              1. All one has to do is look at the majority of former NFL players 5 years later to see where this goes. Most end up signing autographs for cash, but only so long as there’s anyone who remembers who the hell they were. Then they can’t pay the property taxes and utilities on the mansion, it gets seized in foreclosure, and yet someone else is to blame.

                1. It sounds “systemic”. Call a press conference!

                2. “We make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money.”

      2. The Minneapolis justice system is not a “ghetto lottery”. They have updated to a system of “scratchers” with whimsical names.

      3. So you mean that the family should owe the city for saving it money?

    4. A few years back, Minneapolis raised their welfare amounts to attract more Democrat voters. They actually advertised. They received a whole pack of new voters from Chicago who moved there for one reason, a few hundred extra unearned dollars per month. They also imported Somalians and now their poor voters are “living the dream” of enhanced multiculturalism and outrageous amounts crime.
      My town tries to attract people by providing high paying jobs. What are they thinking?

      1. “Our people probably get paid way to much, but they deserve it. For now, bwah ha ha ha ha!”

        This won’t scare an effective worker for obvious reasons, btw.

    5. Maybe when they raise taxes to pay for the Floyd settlement, people in Minneapolis will realize they’re getting exactly what they voted for. After all, the police is a local city function, so is managed entirely by the local Democrat politicians, who blamed racism (obviously their own racism since the GOP had nothing to do with it) for Floyd’s death.

  4. But it could complicate Chauvin’s murder trial, and it leaves unresolved the question of whether the lawsuit could have overcome qualified immunity, a formidable barrier to federal civil rights claims.

    Do I have to read the whole article to find out why qualified immunity would have complicated a lawsuit against the City of Minneapolis?

    1. The city could argue QI prevented the law suit from proceeding.

      1. Let’s be serious though. Any city lawyer who settled for $27M wasn’t going to argue any such thing.

      2. That doesn’t answer my question. Qualified Immunity only applies to direct lawsuits against individual officers or government agents. It does not apply to victims suing the city of the agency itself.

    2. Given a civil settlement by the city, it’s practically an admission of guilt by the city, that avoids a civil trial, and complicates the murder trial, as “Mr. Chauvin’s lawyers might even ask for a mistrial” as reported. Usually civil trials follow the related criminal trial.

      This may simply be a way for the local D politicians, to get Chauvin off the hook (after all, they hired, trained and managed him, and from what I’ve seen he followed their directions – so is Chauvin or the people managing the police responsible?). I believe the D politicians see this as preferable to a trial exposing how they manage the police, their instructions to kneel on necks, and the inevitable result of backlash against them. This way, they just raise taxes, and make the people pay for who they voted for.

  5. So I guess the moral of the story is that if you take a fatal overdose of the drug, call the police and hope for a huge settlement

    1. Well, if you’re willing to die for it, sure.

      1. Most people that live for drugs are very willing to die for them. See “Crack Dealing” in urban cities.

    2. Pretty much.

      How bad does progressivism have to get before we do what it takes to end it?

    3. Well, that is pretty good advice … but only if you are black. Otherwise, the most your family stands to get out of it is maybe enough cash to buy a used car at a police auction. If you are comfortable with your mom driving some cholo’s flamed out orange lowrider to your memorial service, I say go for it.

    4. Nah, I think you just hope your idiot brother George does it so you don’t have to.

  6. Really? Worker’s Comp funds?
    One more reason to remain in Free America.

  7. I wonder if the calculation was based on how much he would have spent on drugs over the next 20 years.

    Pretty ironic that all these athletes, celebrities, and city council members are doing a better job of taking care of Floyd’s kids over the last year than he ever bothered to do when he was alive.

    1. Wow, come to Reason for anger and racist feelings. Sorry, you don’t have a license to be violent

      1. That didn’t stop George Floyd from pistol whipping a pregnant woman during a home invasion.

        1. Why does that matter? A fetus is just a parasite. George Floyd attacked a woman, and a parasite. If he had killed the parasite, he would have done the woman a favor.

          Speaking of which, have you heard about Biden finally levelling the playing field in the military by agreeing to send women with parasitosis into active combat? So progressive.

          1. Maternity flight suits. That’ll work well pulling a 9-G turn in an F-16.

            1. “That’ll work well pulling a 9-G turn in an F-16.”

              Is that like an Assault Rifle (“AR”) fifteen?

            2. I have visions of unplanned ejections.

            3. Isn’t any pregnancy going to put you on a non-flying (and, shhhhh! Non-deployable) profile anyway? If so, why does s/he need a maternity poopy suit?

              1. To keep the parasite from escaping …

              2. You’re missing the entire point. It’s not so women can fly and no pregnant mother or her doctor is going to suggest it. It’s for the same reason my neighbor [who has never been in the military] sports camo to go out and get the mail. It’s a fashion statement and a talking point for Papa Joe to virtue signal his wokeness.

              3. The issue of military members being pregnant has not been an issue for decades. This is nothing new. They are put on a special physical training program and they ensure that they are not mistreated. It is a normal part of military life. The Army has had “maternity BDUs” for decades, I’m sure that the other services have them too.
                This is total nonsense by the media.

                1. “The issue of military members being pregnant has not been an issue for decades.”

                  Perhaps I misunderstood what you wrote. It’s still an issue, now. Mainly because manning isn’t made up in the billet to cover for her now far more worthless ass. Since, as you note, the mother-to-be is put in a special program, this frequently means she can’t do the work she was doing before she got knocked up. Physically hazardous to the fetus, too grueling due to her weakened physical condition, whatever.

                  The work can’t go undone, and it’s not like billets have a great deal of spare people these days—which is, ironically, the first argument why we need women in the Armed Forces that many of these senior clowns are making on their social media accounts—-so everyone else has to do her work for her. Which aids unit cohesion to no end.

                  1. I understand your point. It is one of the reasons that I think that manning issues can only be fixed by separating the sexes. Women are serving on Special Forces teams now. Losing one of your twelve operators for over a year due to pregnancy is bad news. They should just make separate units.
                    I was speaking to the fact that the military has been dealing with the pregnant soldier issue for a while. The press is acting like it is a new issue.

                    1. Women have completed SFAS and Robin Sage? I knew they’d completed Ranger School (and USMC TBS, the one infantry officers go through. which pissed the former Marines I’ve known off to no end.) But I didn’t realize they’d completed the SF panoply of courses. From what I’ve heard about womens attempts at completing Ranger School—getting peered out twice on patrols, having the BG in charge of the school stop by to personally observe, etc—I’m sure the standards weren’t changed at all.

                      The pisser is, there are women, very brave and exceptional women, serving in things like the aforementioned SAD, or the Authority, or other code word orgs that need females. And by public accounts, do very well. See, e.g., someone like the late Shannon Kent: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_M._Kent

                2. Its a hige fvckin ossue in the Navy, where 1/3 of shipboard women are pregnant, special considerations have to be made in a restri ted space environmemt, and their jobs have to be covered

          2. He’s leveling the playing field by forcing American taxpayers to pay for menin the military, who want to mutilate themselves(gender reassignment) for some twisted fantasy of becoming a woman.
            I can see it now: the year 2030, the Red Chinese have invaded America and the American military cannot defend its shores as its personnel are too busy deciding which dress goes well in combat and what color lipstick to wear.
            Meanwhile blacks everywhere are ODing in front of police in hopes of collecting big payouts for their ahem…families.
            I fear America has been dragged down into this progressive hell hole deliberately.

        2. He did not pistol whip her. He merely put the gun to her stomach to influence her to make the right decision.

      2. Wow, come to reason for denial and misplaced racism taunts. The man was a Junkie, race never had anything to do with that.

      3. Not being a drug addict or deadbeat dad = racist.

    2. If you don’t like big settlements being paid to the families of drug addicts, then take it up with the killer cops.

      1. Or the faggot mayor.

        Although, and please correct me if I am wrong, I am getting a sense you would be the perfect ambassador for taking it up … with the mayor.

      2. You would think that a claimed SF soldier would know the difference between a choke and an Overdose, never mind being capable of reading and understanding an autopsy report. You were never in a team room unless it was to drop off paperwork.

        1. Lol, when did he add SF to his stolen medal list?

          1. His screen name is the motto of Special Forces. If he was ever there, he would know that stolen valor is an obsession with some guys. It won’t work out. Some guys live to hunt fakers. You have to be a real loser to engage in stolen valor.
            I have never once met a liberal SF guy. It doesn’t happen. I only knew one guy in 16 years that voted Democrat. If he is as liberal as he acts, he would hate SF, hate SF guys, and really hate the chain of command. The entire organization is center or right.

            1. I know quite a few SF, thank you for your service btw, and agree with what you said above. It is obvious he has never been on the armed forces. He makes obvious mistakes non stop, like claiming JSF was built by Raytheon. SF especially would know which companies make what. Yet he persists.

      3. Who pays out when Junkies like Floyd kill people?

      4. If I want analysis from someone whose knowledge of anything is a mile wide and an inch deep, you’ll be the first I call.

        1. I’m not sure that this subject requires anything more than an inch deep of analysis.

      5. Oh Officer Fentanyl, a word please….

  8. “A Lawyer for George Floyd’s Family Says a Record-Breaking Settlement Gives Cities ’27 Million Reasons’ To Curtail Police Abuse”

    NO. Irresponsible left wing officials in Minneapolis just gave away $27 Million of taxpayer dollars to assorted relatives of a career criminal who died from overdosing on heroin, fentanyl and methamphetamine while resisting arrest (after he committed another crime).

    1. Flag for racist violence

      1. Flag for being a dumb fuck.

        1. LOL

          Sarcfaggot found a new crusted jizz sock to wave around.

          1. Good luck with that. I’ve been around here a long time.

            1. I think he’s referring to Marketthugs

              1. Wait, I thought Marketthugs = De Oppresso Liber or something. How many actual people comment here anyway? With all the socks running around is it maybe only 8 or 9 distinct individuals?

    2. US taxpayers will end up footing the $27 Million as the $1.9 Trillion left wing spending/bailout bill passed by partisan Democrats in US Congress gave Minnesota and Minneapolis Democrats billions of federal taxpayer dollars.

    3. I love how all of the “totally not racist” Trump supporters around here have all gulped down the defense’s narrative completely uncritically, and are defending a cop who knelt on a man’s neck for minutes.

      Very libertarian and cool, defending blatantly negligent (at the very least) killer cops.

      Just a bunch of economic anxiety around here. Yup, Trump support and racism is totally not correlated.

      If you ever feel the need to ask yourselves why everyone thinks you are racist, or if you are feeling a little down about being called a Nazi again, come back to this thread and review.

      1. Are you kidding? Around here we support President Joe “No Darkie Malarkie” Biden!

      2. Or, you could just read the autopsy report and stop emoting like a child:

        https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

        1. Shhhh, he’s on a role in race for most ignorant. Good head start on WK.

      3. Calling people racist doesn’t mean anything anymore, Cupcake. Just give up. Calling an overdose an overdose is not racist. It is science. If you can’t understand the actual autopsy report, just keep your man-pleaser shut until someone explains it to in pictures.
        27 million dollars of hush money and an Obama/Sharpton funeral. It doesn’t get anymore better than that, does it? They literally crowded Jessie Jackson off the stage, and yet, he was the first high level race-baiter to arrive in Minneapolis looking for “green justice”. In the ghetto, do you think that will make things better? Is that a good message? They will be teaching their crotch droppings to do heroin. They will be salting their kid’s meals with Fentanyl, PCP, and Meth before sending them to the playground in hopes of a big payoff.
        BTW Valor thief. George Floyd jokes are really popular in SF team rooms. Non-leftists don’t buy this nonsense. You were never in a team room.

        1. If this doesn’t sound like a shakedown…….
          One that would make Rev. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton jealous with envy.
          Now, how many grade schools are going to be named after George Floyd? Or how many streets and public parks?
          The comedy show is only just getting started.
          How about a George Floyd history month?
          “I have a dream” has been replaced with “I can’t breathe”.

      4. How many times are you gonna play this played out race card? I agree that kneeling on a man’s neck till he’s dead with no regard to human life is a disgrace. Stick to that. This officer should be punished to the full extant. It’s also a disgrace that taxpayers are on the hook for it to the tune of $27 million. And that won’t solve a damn thing.

    4. He was about to drive that car high as a kite and on the brink of overdose. I have zero pity for Junkies. They are like locusts, they only destroy. I have never encountered one that wasn’t a horrow show of a human being. When I lived in the ghetto, they were a constant threat to everyone else. Being poor in a poor area would be more tolerable if it were not for the George Floyds of the world. When the people of the ghetto become less tolerant of this nonsense, things could get better.

  9. $27 million? They don’t even care about $27 billion.

    It’s kinda interesting how screwed up government incentives are.

    1. Systemic racism causes Black people to experience Brownian motion when confronted by police.

      1. And that Brownian motion, being random, is usually lost in the White noise.

  10. But according to City Coordinator Mark Ruff, “officials were confident that the Floyd agreement would not lead to an increase in property taxes.”

    The city’s tax collectors in blue are going to need to wring that out of its citizens in different ways.

    I’m going to guess it will take a whole lot more of these before police antics will be too expense for cities to insure.

    1. You know what else officials were confident about?

      1. That they could leave the laws against steel roll-down doors over business windows in place, because they’ve bought off the Black population?

    2. Minneapolis is famously flush with cash right now.
      That’s why they forced (burned down) business owners to pay taxes before issuing building permits.

  11. So far seven jurors have been selected to hear the state case against Chauvin

    When the remainder are selected, the judge will instruct them on jury nullification.

    1. So fucking dumb.

      You think murder is a charge that should be jury nullified? You know the libertarian endorsement of that tactic is only for victimless crimes, right? There is a victim here, and the jury should make their judgement in accordance with the law.

      1. If fentanyl keeps killing Black people, should the government ban its possession?

        1. How far do you think those gun bans the Dems lust over would go if they said the real reason was to prevent gangbangers from killing each other?

      2. One measure of intellect is the ability to understand humor.

        1. brevity soul wit

        2. He’s apparently on a rampage. Humor be damned!

      3. “There is a victim here …”

        But, more importantly, where in the Hierarchy of Victims does he belong? Below, or above, Greta Thunberg?

        1. Brainwashed child soldier or deified monster? To me, one of these is more sympathetic than the other.

          1. The answer is actually: Andrew Cuomo. Hoist miserably on his own petard, he must now face a daunting firestorm of unfair criticism and cruel abandonment by the people he once called friends.

            1. I’d prefer a Schrodinger’s Cuomo experiment. Lock him in a box with vial of covid…

              1. Don’t forget….fentanyl.

            2. But you can’t take back that Emmy! Especially since he and Fredo used it for a prop.

              1. At least it wasn’t the Nobel Prize……….

        2. You need more info to understand scale. You could try a scale of John Kerry’s jet to Greta Thurnberg’s sailboat “The Mongoloid Meteor”. Which craft moves more nonsense without harming the planet.?

      4. You know the libertarian endorsement of that tactic is only for victimless crimes, right?

        I would argue that is not correct. It may be the unstated intent, but the general idea is this– in the most generic of terms:

        Jury nullification occurs when jurors acquit a defendant who they believe to be guilty because they conclude that the law he or she violated is unjust or carries overly harsh penalties.

        When we libertarians conjure this ideal in our heads, most of us, I would agree are thinking of victimless crimes. But… (link posted in next reply because only spammers use multiple links), Reason has specifically discussed jury nullification in crimes which were NOT victimless, but where the the penalties were merely “overly harsh.”

        1. Here is a crime which I would argue is not “victimless” but where jury nullification was on the table at Reason:

          The prosecution that shocked Underhill was a dubious federal “child pornography” charge growing out of a state statutory rape case. A U.S. Attorney’s Office press release alleged that defendant Yehudi Manzano, 31, “sexually assaulted a 15-year-old female victim in Connecticut, video recorded the assault with his cell phone, and uploaded the video to his Google account.” Yet “the only people who ever saw it were the guy who made it, the girl who was in it, and the federal agents,” Norman Pattis, Manzano’s attorney, says.

          Now, one could, through a certain amount of contortion argue that “statutory rape” is a victimless crime.

          I’ll let the jury decide.

      5. Again, from the Reason vaults:

        Advocates of jury nullification argue that jurors have both the power and the right to acquit a guilty defendant if they believe the law or its application is unjust.

        Interpreting that in the most general way, a jury could certainly conclude that the particular charge being applied to Chauvin is “overly harsh” given the totality of the circumstances, and therefore would be a candidate for nullification.

      6. To give an example: some people are against the death penalty. Meaning, that no matter how many pieces the killer hacked that small child into, even though he’s guilty, a jury might find the death penalty to be “overly harsh”, therefore nullifying his conviction.

      7. Political prosecutions should be. The guy died of 3x the fentanyl lethal levels. But you’d know that if you educated yourself just slightly. His lungs were well over normal weights, pointing to an OD.

        1. This is not the point. It’s a neat narrative but it didn’t have to happen. This cop kneeled on his neck till he was dead (and after) with no regard for human life. Floyd was on drugs, sure, but he didn’t have to be. Anyone could have a weak heart or lungs or any other ailment for any number of reasons. This cop didn’t give two shits about this guy and demonstrated it for all the world to see.

      8. The real victims are the American business owners that had their businesses burned by BLM racists and their ANTIFA flunkies.

        1. Yes. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.

  12. They think a measly $27 million payout is an incentive to do something differently? Forget about the fact that no cop is on the hook for that much, and it’s really just a circle-jerk of a bunch of taxpayers transferring funds to someone else…I’m pretty sure in a city like Chicago they budget at least twice that amount because they know the cops are dirty and don’t care. I’m too lazy to look up the actual number, but I know the city bakes into the budget the fact that they know they’ll have to pay a certain amount of claims every year.

  13. 27 million reasons for blacks to resist arrest.

    1. Just revise it downward and claim it can’t be scientifically proven.

  14. The niggers will sure get a lot of grape drink for all that money. I don’t think a nigger ever saw a bill larger than a 20. They will actually be able to buy real underwear now instead of stapled newspapers they pulled out of the dumpster.

    1. Not surprising that someone who can’t pay their mortgage keeps doing the hard FAIL at parody accounts.

    2. Leftists really can’t meme

    3. Purple drank……
      and a 9mm
      to go with that 40 oz. King Cobra.

  15. The depths that the far left will sink to in order to appease the mob.

    This is a state run by leftist jerks including a very corrupt AG.

  16. I am sure the family is happy their troubled relative is gone and they were able to cash in on him. I doubt you will hear one of them say I would give up all that money to only have him back.

    1. That’s a guarantee.

  17. The family of Floyd got $27 million?
    Good!
    That’ll teach the taxpayers of Minneapolis to violate someone’s rights!

  18. Watch this fellow be forgotten about as other cops try to get on the bandwagon for committing a high-profile offense just so they can count on their favorite political party’s president to pardon them in a momentary surge of seemingly improbable events, such as a riot in a major city.

    Who says police can’t jackpot public sentiment?

    Call me cynical, but those who repeat the past may not had cared to had read about it.

  19. What is even more shocking about the incident is that the pigs didn’t beat the fuck out of the filmer and smash her cell phone.
    The second most shocking action: three cops show up for a bogus $20 bill??

    1. On your second point, Reason is still spouting the mainstream shorthand.
      The bigger issue was that he was clearly intoxicated/high and was about to operate a vehicle. I think that’s the larger issue that lead to them removing him from his vehicle. You can find the cops lapel camera footage online which shows the interaction from the beginning.

  20. George Floyd a felon with multiple convictions becomes the face of so many in Black America. I my opinion if the Black community ever hopes to achieve any sort of parity with everyone else then it’s time to stop turning zeroes into heroes.

  21. Look up the newest Charlie Hebdo cover that riffs on the Floyd killing.
    BwaHahaw!

  22. Out of that $27 million, Crump will collect his usual attorney’s fees of $10 mil.
    The , ahem, family (illegitimate children) of the late George Floyd will then have $17 mil to divide between them, that is until one or more also dies from O.D. or is shot to death by another ghetto hood rat.
    Someone made the prediction that the local Mercedes and Porsche dealers will enjoy a surge in sales. I predict Cadillac dealers as well.
    The truth is, poor people when confronted with large amounts of money ie : lottery or pay outs, often end up just as poor only a few years later. This also includes the poorly educated.
    So it’s anyone’s guess as to just how those survivors (sic) will be able to manage that much money to keep themselves from becoming dead broke within a few years.
    Meanwhile the people of Minneapolis are going to be shaken down for even more with higher taxes and aggressive fines and levies.
    The victims of the riots are left with burned out hulks of what remains of their once businesses and forced at gunpoint to divvy up more money in the form of taxes before they can rebuild.
    My guess is that section of Minneapolis is going to resemble much like any other city that has experienced rioting and burning in the past.
    Areas of Detroit and Watts have never recovered from the riots of 1967.
    Minneapolis will be no different.

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