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Reason Roundup

Goodbye, Trump. Hello, War on Domestic Terror.

Plus: Biden pushes 8-year path to citizenship, Parler is back, Josh Hawley's book finds new publisher, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 1.19.2021 9:36 AM

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Today is President Donald Trump's last day in office! A White House official said Trump plans to pardon or commute sentences for up to 100 people today. Whether it might include big-name whistleblowers (like Chelsea Manning, Reality Winner, and Julian Assange) or just more of the president's crook friends and allies is anybody's guess. In any event, Trump leaves office with a 34 percent approval rating and a record-low average approval rating of 41 percent.

With Americans still reeling from the January 6 Capitol riot, the Biden administration will begin its term amid a rapidly escalating "tough on domestic terror" mood.

That's never a good influence no matter which ruling party is in office, and perhaps especially bad in times of intense partisan conflict. There are a few things both Democrats and Republicans can almost always come together on, and limiting civil liberties in the name of national security is chief among them. But worse, Biden has never backed away from hysterical policy reactions to perceived crime and terror threats.

"Biden's career was built on the politics of panics," Reason's Jacob Sullum writes. "After 9/11, Biden did not just vote for the PATRIOT Act, which expanded the federal government's surveillance authority in the name of fighting terrorism. He bragged that it was essentially the same as legislation he had been pushing since 1994."

Now, "the Biden administration plans to make domestic terrorism a key focus of the National Security Council, transition officials tell @carolelee," tweeted Geoff Bennett, NBC's White House correspondent, on Monday. "Officials have been looking at ways to shift government resources previously used for counterterrorism, to combating domestic terrorism."

Former lackeys of the war on terror are already salivating.

"Former intelligence official on PBS NewsHour tonight saying that the US should think about a '9/11 Commission' for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the fight against Al Qaeda here at home," noted Evan Hill of The New York Times last night.

("The more explicit they make it that they're using the first War on Terror model for their new one domestically, the better," responded Glenn Greenwald. "Please keep up this candor.")

"Domestic terror" panic is infecting all sorts of policy arenas, too.

Since the Capitol riot, people have been calling for crackdowns on social media tech companies, under the rationale that some folks involved organized or posted about their plans online and/or received misinformation on digital platforms that led them to riot. (And, once again, people pretending that people will stop communicating disfavored ideas if they lose a few venues to do so are finding themselves sorely wrong, as folks move from Facebook, Twitter, and Parler to encrypted messaging apps and other forms of communication.)

Now, that's spilling over into attacks on traditional media, too.

"Biden needs to reinvigorate the FCC to slow the lies and sedition from Fox and other right-wing broadcasters," wrote Washington Post columnist Max Boot on Twitter yesterday, continuing the melodrama by warning that, if not, "the terrorism we saw on Jan. 6 may be only the beginning, rather than the end, of the plot against America."

But as Boot and others unfold the plot to reinvigorate the failed war on terror, it seems we may have a lot more to fear from status quo authoritarians than the MAGA nationalist crowd right now. The latter worships a disgraced man who is leaving the White House tomorrow. The former will find friends in the executive branch, Congress, and all the levers of legacy media.

"Already, a bill has been introduced to empower federal law enforcement to better monitor and stop domestic extremist violence," notes The Daily Beast:

"It is not enough to just condemn hate, we need to equip law enforcement with the tools needed to identify threats and prevent violent acts of domestic terrorism," said its sponsor, Rep. Brad Schneider (D-IL). "The Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act improves coordination between our federal agencies and makes sure they are focused on the most serious domestic threats," he said.

We've seen this episode before, and it doesn't end well.


FREE MINDS

Sex, Communism, race, and creative freedom in Hollywood. In Reason's February issue, Kat Rosenfield looks at historical Hollywood production codes and today's new diversity standards for Oscar-eligible films.

In a way, these battles represent a new front in Hollywood's diversity wars. But in another sense, they are nothing novel. The Academy was formed in tandem with Hollywood's early content code, and it has been enmeshed in battles over what constitutes acceptable or desirable on-screen content—a matter in which the film industry has always yearned to both eat its cake and have it. Hollywood wants to wield total creative control and unimpeachable moral authority, to wag its finger out in public before retreating to backroom debauchery, to be seen as an idealistic protector of the arts against the forces of censorship and conformity while keeping box-office cash coming.

And like the Code that ruled during its Golden Age, Hollywood's signature awards ceremony isn't just a glitzy vehicle for celebrating Tinseltown's best; it's about control. The imprimatur of the Academy is a powerful influence on filmmakers' output and public perceptions of the movie business alike, but more than that, it imagines Hollywood as an arbiter of goodness. What must we say? How should we live? What moves us to fear, to tears, to disgust? Sit back, let the lights go down, and await further instructions.


FREE MARKETS

Hawley book finds new publisher. Conservative publishing house Regnery will publish Missouri Republican Sen. Josh Hawley's anti-tech book after it was dropped by Simon & Schuster. The company chose to contract with the senator and promote his work until Hawley's refusal to accept the presidential election results (and, some say, partial blame for the Capitol riot) made him someone the publishing company didn't want to associate with anymore. Hawley exercised his right to speak in dispute of the election, Simon & Schuster exercised its right to choose who it does business with, and then one of the publisher's competitors took advantage of that and snapped it up. Contra Hawley's insistence that it was a First Amendment violation for Simon & Schuster to cancel his book contract in the first place, this is how free speech, freedom of association, and free markets work.

At USA Today, Ilya Somin suggests that Hawley's statement about Simon & Schuster and the First Amendment "is not simply the result of ignorance. It is rooted in a broader worldview under which government should have vastly expanded power to control the private sector and thereby restrict constitutional rights. That vision is widespread on the right, among 'national conservatives.' But it also has close analogues on the left. Both variants are menaces to liberty."


QUICK HITS

  • President-elect Joe Biden is promising to promote an eight-year path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. "It provides one of the fastest pathways to citizenship for those living without legal status of any measure in recent years, but it fails to include the traditional trade-off of enhanced border security favored by many Republicans, putting passage in a narrowly divided Congress in doubt," the Associated Press points out. "Expected to run hundreds of pages, the bill is set to be introduced after Biden takes the oath of office Wednesday, according to a person familiar with the legislation and granted anonymity to discuss it."
  • The armed march that wasn't.
  • Parler is partially back. After being dropped from Amazon's web hosting services last week, the conservative social platform is back online—albeit not yet functional again. "On Monday, Parler's website was reachable again, though only with a message from its chief executive saying he was working to restore functionality," reports Reuters. "The internet protocol address it used is owned by DDos-Guard, which is controlled by two Russian men and provides services including protection from distributed denial of service attacks."
  • "Anytime when you have mutations that come up independently of each other in multiple places, it's really a sign," coronavirus researcher Vineet Menachery from the University of Texas told The Atlantic. And it's not a good sign.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Today is President Donald Trump's last day in office!

    Muh outrage!

    1. Overt   4 years ago

      I look forward to a half dozen "Finally, I don't have to talk about Trump" articles to spew forth from the Reason Staff. Articles which we all know are completely disingenuous. After 50 "Trump is wrong to contest this election" articles from Sullum, he should just admit that he is absolutely enamored with the man. It isn't like there was new info to provide every 12 - 24 hours. Nah. Sullum et al, need to just look at the picture of orange man and confess, "I wish I knew how to quit you!"

      Those clicks, those sweet and tasty clicks are going to be hard to find. If the Reason writers were at all honest about Trump's cost on rational discourse in this country, they would consider how many times they chose to write about his latest twitter vomit instead of writing about actual policy.

      But we all know that won't happen. Orange man will keep shouting out there, or some other Republican will take up the mantle, giving Sullum et al a nice sloppy rebound relationship to bait those clicks for the future.

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        "I look forward to a half dozen “Finally, I don’t have to talk about Trump” articles to spew forth from the Reason Staff..."

        Followed by weeks of articles pointing out 'orange man was bad'.

        1. Overt   4 years ago

          Don't forget the tantalyzing "This quote from Ted Cruz/Johnny Republican is proof that Crypto Trumpism runs rampant in the GOP!"

      2. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

        Look, this isn't just going to be Reason. All of us are going to have an impossible task recalibrating to a post-Trump environment.

        What few of us realize right now is how utterly sickening the deification of all politicians non-Tump is going to be now. We've forgotten what real sycophants the party in power has in journalism, but we're about to be reminded.

        1. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

          We need to focus on efforts to resist the communist democrat agenda.

      3. The White Knight   4 years ago

        Fuck off.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

          Right back at you, White Excrement.

          1. R Mac   4 years ago

            Bird shit is white!

        2. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

          Totalitarian simp and overt facist White Knight everyone.
          Pissed as hell that badthinkers are still posting and haven't been sent to reeducation camps yet.

          How's your Reichstag fire arrests doing, WK?

    2. loveconstitution1789   4 years ago

      In any event, Trump leaves office with a 34 percent approval rating and a record-low average approval rating of 41 percent.

      Poor unreason commies.

      Trump is more popular now than when he won 74 million votes.

      He's more popular now that we know there was massive Democrat election fraud to install el presidente Biden.

      1. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

        I know, right? He’s supposed to be so unpopular, yet earned almost 12 million more voted in 2020 than 2016.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    ...Trump leaves office with a 34 percent approval rating and a record-low average approval rating of 41 percent.

    Corporate media can hang their Mission Accomplished banners now.

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      SleepyJoe is going to be at 100% approval ratings.
      Or heads will roll.

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        They already started crediting him for an improved economy.


        The Associated Press
        @AP
        President-elect Joe Biden is taking office amid hints of an economic renewal. Despite the 9.8 million jobs lost due to the coronavirus, there are signs the U.S. is on the cusp of a kind of boom unseen in the Obama and Trump eras.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

          Funny how strangling your own economy can set the stage for an economic rebound. Meanwhile, states that didn't put in the same level of restrictions as the We Fucking Love Science! Land were able to mitigate the long-term economic damage that's already been taking place.

          1. Brian   4 years ago

            We will see articles criticizing the slow growth of economies that didn’t lock down, compared to the ones rebounding from the self-inflicted economic depression.

            1. Ignore me!   4 years ago

              And even if those rebounding economies are bailed out by their friends in Congress at everyone else's expense.

              1. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

                So much democrat treason........

        2. CE   4 years ago

          Printing money, how does it work?

          1. Rimfar   4 years ago

            Money printer goes brrrr...

    2. Juice   4 years ago

      If those were polls, then we know those numbers are accurate.

      1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

        Poll results for the next 4 years have already been distributed.

        1. CE   4 years ago

          Sort of like all the news networks on Election night knew the Pennsylvania mail-in ballots would give the state to Biden, even though he trailed by 400,000 votes and no other state had such a large disparity between in-person and mail-in ballot percentages for Biden?

          1. DesigNate   4 years ago

            Fuck you thst not proof of anything, statistical probabilities be damned.

            - White Knight, probably

          2. dan1650   4 years ago

            Biden actually trailed by almost 700,000 votes and it was overcome in just few highly populated counties where election officials are Democrats.
            The Democrats spent millions on high powered lawyers to keep audits of those elections from being done. If there was nothing to hide it would seem rational to eagerly push for audits to stop the narrative of a stolen election and make those making the claims look foolish. There is probably a really good reason to keep audits from being done at all cost but I just can't figure it out. Oh well. Joe "Big Guy" Biden can actually be the illegitimate president to half the country that they tried to stick on President Trump with the Russian hoax.

    3. Longtobefree   4 years ago

      https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/19/trump-set-to-leave-office-with-a-higher-approval-rating-than-george-w-bush/

      1. Overt   4 years ago

        Talk about damning with faint praise.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

          The fact that our modern Emmanuel Goldstein actually has a higher approval rating than Bush is indicative of how much the bank bailout pissed off political bases. You had people that were fine to stick with him until the end, but ultimately bailing out banks that committed deliberate securities fraud, instead of allowing them to fail and let the survivors scavenge the remains, is what led to the fracturing of the GOP that we're seeing now.

          As I've said before, the roots of both the Tea Party and Occupy, and the correlated rise of populism in the 2010s, can be traced directly to that one event. If Bush had let the banks fail and started prosecution proceedings that Obama would have been more than happy to both take up and take credit for, his brother might have actually had a better chance of getting the nomination in 2016 by saying, "Look, these guys screwed you over, and we're the reason they're in jail now." And it says something about how deep that family is within the elite establishment, and how dependent they are on each other, that it never happened.

          1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

            This is a really good analysis.

            The iraq war must factor somewhere in this too, right? It was popular with gop at the time, but a few years later it became an albatross on the GOP. Became an easy issue for the tea party and later trumpers to criticize the neocon faction with.

            1. Brian   4 years ago

              Too bad both parties went for the Iraq war and show no sign of reducing their taste for foreign military adventurism.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

              If it had a role, it's more tangential. It wasn't nearly the catalyst that the bank bailout proved to be, although Trump was able to later get an easy kill shot on Jeb with it, because the GOP base has grown increasingly fatigued with foreign military adventures in general and would prefer to let the rest of the world deal with their own shit at this point.

              Convincing Jeb to run for President just four years after his brother had made the family name toxic in national politics was one of the biggest political mistakes the neocons made, which is really saying something--it's not a coincidence that Trump announced his own candidacy *the very next day* after Jeb threw his hat in the ring. He knew damn well that Jeb had most of the establishment behind him, but that the base wanted absolutely nothing to do with another Bush running, and that they would view that announcement as an indication that the party establishment didn't give a shit if they won the election or not. That's a big reason why the neocons are Democrats now.

          2. CE   4 years ago

            The 800 billion TARP bailout barely seems like a stimulus these days.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

              Inflation sure is a bitch.

    4. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

      Oh no, orange fan sad.

      1. Gummo   4 years ago

        at least give credit when you steal shit from me

      2. Sevo   4 years ago

        TDS-addled lefty shit whines.

      3. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

        Ha, yeah, everything is binary.

        1. mpercy   4 years ago

          Except gender. Gender is non-binary, or so I'm told.

    5. wreckinball   4 years ago

      Those polls are always accurate right ENB? LOL

  3. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    With Americans still reeling from the January 6 Capitol riot, the Biden administration will begin its term amid a rapidly escalating "tough on domestic terror" mood.

    It's like they all want me to become a conspiracy nut.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      I dont know one person reeling from it.

      In history books it will be another Reichstag fire. The 20k troops in the Capitol is all political theater to justify their new war on the opposing party. The IC and FBI has said there is not one known active threat for the inauguration yet they have to act as if there is to justify their cries for domestic clamp downs on opposing thought.

      1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

        If there is no violence in DC tomorrow it will only be because the National Guard and FBI took so many precautionary steps.
        They win either way.

        1. loveconstitution1789   4 years ago

          Americans are known for guerilla tactics. We used them against the British and shot British officers first and sometimes the only British military persons engaged.

          American patriots marching into DC and engaging 25,000 unarmed National guard troops is stupid.

          Thanks to 25,000 national guard troops in DC, there are less national guard troops to protect their national guard armories around the USA.

      2. TJJ2000   4 years ago

        ^THIS-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      3. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

        Just because the reeling is performative doesn't make it not real.

      4. CE   4 years ago

        How's that building back better going in Minneapolis?

    2. Longtobefree   4 years ago

      Glad to know this.
      Otherwise I might think that 20 or 30 thousand troops armed with assault rifles, picked based on political criteria, was the beginning of a plot to take over the country and deny 74 million people the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution,

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        What is the whole picked based on political criteria?

        1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

          I'm confused as well.

        2. Moonrocks   4 years ago

          DOD, FBI Vetting National Guard Members in DC: Pentagon Chief
          https://www.theepochtimes.com/dod-fbi-vetting-national-guard-members-in-dc-pentagon-chief_3661413.html

          It's not clear what that vetting entails, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't have a political loyalty dimension.

          1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

            Ok, so there's a concern that Biden is going to declare martial law with these troops as support?
            How is he planning to deny 74 millions people their rights?

            1.  sockpuppet catcher   4 years ago

              Fuck off WK

              1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

                Come on man.
                I'm asking an honest question here. What are these troops going to do beyond barring the peoples right to protest in DC tomorrow?

                WK is not me. I am not he.

                1. JesseAz   4 years ago

                  Aside from discourage any of the lowly citizens from protesting their betters?

                  1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

                    I'm with you on that. They can use the presence of national guard and barricades to squash dissent, while also pointing to them as evidence of domestic terrorism.

                    I don't get what people think the secret reason they're there for.

                    1. R Mac   4 years ago

                      Definitely not white knight

          2. mpercy   4 years ago

            If you're a white male NG member, Rep Cohen thinks you're unfit to protect D.C.. Seems pretty racist and sexist to me.

            At least CNN pushed back a little...

            Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) sparked pushback on Tuesday after claiming on CNN that the Guard is “is 90 some-odd percent, I believe, male; and only about 20 percent of white males voted for Biden.”

            “You’ve got to figure that in the Guard, which is predominately more conservatives … There are probably not more than 25 percent of the people there protecting us that voted for Biden,” he added. “The other 75 percent are in the class that would be, the large class of folks that might want to do something.”

            “To have voted for Trump does not make you an insider threat,” CNN anchor Jim Scuitto responded, asking if Cohen had any evidence of an insider attack being planned. He said no.

            1. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

              It’s going to get real fucking bad if these moron democrats aren’t straightened out.

        3. Overt   4 years ago

          Some idiot Democrat congress-creature said that the National Guard is full of white conservative men, and so its loyalty was in question.

        4. Minadin   4 years ago

          They are screening the National Guard members to weed out any who might have done something as dastardly as voting in a Republican primary election.

          Just your basic political loyalty test. Nothing to see here . . .

          1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

            The frightening thing is that everyone who does know better is flat out ignoring or excusing it because orangeman bad.

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   4 years ago

        There's definitely some irony in there...

    3. Brandybuck   4 years ago

      You already are.

      1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

        But not you, right? Because peeing hookers and Russia stealing an election for the price of an old mobile home is totally sane.

    4. loveconstitution1789   4 years ago

      see Operation Valkerie Securing the seat of government is essential.

      The troops needed to secure the federal government portion of America are stationed with full knowledge of the enemy Commies of the Left.

      The rest of the military around the USA fans out and arrests Democrat traitors when the order is given for the particular military operation this is.

      The US Military has all sorts of operational plans on the books.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Biden needs to reinvigorate the FCC to slow the lies and sedition from Fox and other right-wing broadcasters...

    Oh, Max. You seldom disappoint.

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

      He, David Frum, Bill Kristol, and Jennifer Rubin are my favorite conservative writers.

      #LibertariansForEmbracingNeocons

      1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

        Important Principled Conservatives may be socially progressive, but they are economically conservative in everything but economics.

        You'll find that Important Principled Conservatives provide a valuable media role in praising the foresight of the corporatist oligarchs and declaiming the base canaille who don't vote for for their own interests".

        Important Principled Conservatives often bemoan the fact that stupid Republican voters don't wish for the party to follow the ideological lead of the Democrats.

    2. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Only SleepyJoe knows what is truthful.

    3. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

      Max Boot. What an apt name.

  5. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

    Parlor isn't a conservative platform. It is a neutral platform. If you can't keep simple fact straight you editor should fire you. I got excited seeing no roundup and no ENB yesterday

    1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

      Rev., you should know by now that anyone or anything that a Progressive does not like (or understand) is Conservative, and therefore seditious.

      There can be only two! And only one is correct.

    2. End Child Unemployment   4 years ago

      What makes a platform turn neutral? Is it a lust for power, for gold? Or was that platform simply born with a heart full of NEUTRALITY??!?

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Explicit rules for their moderation. No violence and nothing illegal. Much different than the arbitrary and vague rules Twitter stands behind.

        1. Unable2Reason   4 years ago

          In other words, what Twitter was when it first started and needed users to get itself off the ground.

    3. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Even shikha is back!

      1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

        Say it ain't so!

      2. MP   4 years ago

        Nah. I was annoyed for a moment. But it's just a reprint from the February issue.

    4. Nail   4 years ago

      I got excited seeing no roundup and no ENB yesterday

      They take holidays seriously at Reason.

    5. Brandybuck   4 years ago

      It's neutral in exactly the same way FOX News is fair and balanced.

      1. Zeb   4 years ago

        I assume they would allow leftists or libertarians or anyone to use the service however they want. I could be wrong, but if that's the case, I'd call that neutral. The fact that the majority of users are not neutral, or evenly distributed over the political spectrum isn't really relevat to the platform's neutrality.

        1. Sevo   4 years ago

          "...The fact that the majority of users are not neutral, or evenly distributed over the political spectrum isn’t really relevat to the platform’s neutrality."

          And could well be due to lefty sites de-platforming them; natural migration.

      2. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

        It's more similarly neutral to Tumblr.
        They set up the platform and similarly minded people are attracted to it.

      3. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

        What the hell Brandyfuck, are you trying to take a shot at White Knight's crown of duplicitousness?

        Parler never set any rules on political speech. Communists can use it just as easily as classical liberals.

      4. mad.casual   4 years ago

        It’s neutral in exactly the same way FOX News is fair and balanced.

        What we really need is a section 230, the 1A of the internet, to hold broadcast networks responsible for the speech of people on Parler. Without that, broadcast TV would be like The Wild West and dumb trolls would sue every major broadcast network into the ground for the blatant lies they allow their users to spout.

        I'm open to the possibility of leaving S230 in place and rekajiggering it to fix peoples' stupidity. Ultimately, that might be the most sensible and libertarian option. Mandatory self-moderation is how fair and neutral speech is achieved.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    ...it seems we may have a lot more to fear from status quo authoritarians than the MAGA nationalist crowd right now.

    Or, you know, ever.

    1. The_Unknown_Pundit   4 years ago

      Exactly.

      1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

        But those MAGA people were so crass!

        1. Nail   4 years ago

          Biden's fashion czar says MAGA hats are so last year.

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

            Fashion masks are the new MAGA hats

            1. TJJ2000   4 years ago

              Biden Radio-call, "Smells like Trump Spirit"... Military Van quickly shows up to arrest everyone on site. lol... 🙂

    2. hamilton   4 years ago

      Precisely this.

      There was a time when status-quo authoritarianism was precisely what libertarians were railing against. I haven't hung around here much lately, when did that change?

      1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        Mean tweets ruined everything.

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          And cocktail parties forgetting to send them invites.

      2. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

        Everyone here got on board the fascist train instead. Authoritarianism is fine for "libertarians" here when it's their guy.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          Everyone is now at the station eagerly awaiting the new fascist train coming down the tracks.

        2. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

          Name us some fascist acts and we will call it out.
          The fact is the Federal Government has been remarkably respectful of individual rights over the past 4 years.
          The phantom fascism never seemed to materialize.

          1. JesseAz   4 years ago

            Federalism on policy is the new fascism.

          2. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

            Trump and co lying for months about the legitimacy of an election he lost, culminating in him, his lawyer, and his son urging his pathetic band of sycophants to storm the capitol building, causing 5 deaths.

            1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

              Ok. For the sake of argument:
              He intentionally lied about losing the election.
              Then he encouraged protestors to storm the capitol.

              Any other fascist acts, or are those the worst ones?

              1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

                A bunch of others.

                Using immigrants as convenient scapegoats on basically every issue that they could be.

                Zero tolerance family separation policy at the border.

                Fake crisis of migrant caravan used to keep troops doing nothing at great expense over thanksgiving holidays, then magically disappearing after the midterm election. (Another big lie combined with xenophobic fear mongering.)

                Purposefully hobbling the USPS when it became apparent that mail in ballots were going to be used in greater volume than previous elections. The most blatant national level voter suppression strategy in living history.

                Asserting "Total Authority. Total." over governors covid 19 rules.

                Using his pardon power to pardon or commute the sentences of his accomplices.

                Ignoring the emoluments clause of the constitution.

                The Ukraine thing was an assertion of executive power where none exists constitutionally. Without arguing over if he did it for personal gain or for the people of the US (it was for his re-election campaign, obviously), there was literally no legal basis for delaying payments to Ukraine.

                1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                  Read what you just wrote and then imagine handing that claptrap in to your debate professor.

                  Even you don't believe the horseshit you just wrote. Why the hell did you think we would?

                  1. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

                    Debate professor? No debate professor would ever allow him in, in the first place. He is the worst debater.

                2. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                  "Remember when Hitler burned the Reichstag, gassed the Jews, and turned Europe into a wasteland? Well Trump pardoned political allies just like every president ever, kept Obama policy alive and said mean things about MS-13."

                  Is it hard to walk in your massive floppy clown shoes DOL?

          3. Nardz   4 years ago

            Invoking the DPA to dictate production of ventilators was fascist.
            That's all I got.

            1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

              Oh. I didn't know he actually used it. That is something.

  7. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

    "In any event, Trump leaves office with a 34 percent approval rating and a record-low average approval rating of 41 percent.

    With Americans still reeling from the January 6 Capitol riot, the Biden administration will begin its term amid a rapidly escalating "tough on domestic terror" mood."

    So, ENB, Trump said things that made you sad. Now if you say things, Biden will lock you up. Who did you vote for?

    1. Juice   4 years ago

      Jorgensen

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        How many times did she warn about the authoritarian impulses of the left last year? They didn't magically change Jan 6th. They have been open about who they were.

    2. Longtobefree   4 years ago

      https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/19/trump-set-to-leave-office-with-a-higher-approval-rating-than-george-w-bush/

  8. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

    Have I mentioned how much I like Hillary Clinton?

    SpeakerPelosi and I agree: Congress needs to establish an investigative body like the 9/11 Commission to determine Trump's ties to Putin so we can repair the damage to our national security and prevent a puppet from occupying the presidency ever again.

    We need someone with a lengthy history of government service to lead this important investigation. I suggest Robert Mueller.

    #ItsMuellerTime
    #(Again)

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Witch hunts are the best way to bring unity to the country.

      1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

        If by unity you mean mobs with pitchforks.

        1. Longtobefree   4 years ago

          Semi-automatic assault pitchforks?
          And carbon-spewing torches, no doubt.

      2. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Denouncing the 2020 election is sedition within 2 months. Denouncing the 2016 election is still just and required after 4 years.

      3. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

        Europe did not heal or move on until they had hung a bunch of Nazi's.

        History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. Stay tuned.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          And now they aren’t allowed to talk about them

        2. Nardz   4 years ago

          Spoiler alert: you're the nazi

          1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

            ha ha ha.

            Are you serious?

            Tell us some more about all the americans you are going to line up against a wall.

            1. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

              You're literally here calling for hanging Trump supporters. Which is a low-tech improvement on your previous idea of strafing them with Apache attack helicopters. You're the most evil, despicable, subhuman piece of shit on this board, cytotoxic, and that's saying a lot. It's a good thing you're a housebound fatass who can't get through the door to play act your fantasies or you'd be the next Garrett Foster.

              1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

                I'm not calling for the hanging of Trump supporters, so relax, Francis.

                I'm saying that there will not be unity until there has been justice and accountability. People need to pay the piper before we move on.

                1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                  What does that consist of, you fascist twat. Reeducation camps? Spending a week in Room 101?

                2. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

                  Justice for voting for someone you disagree with? Sounds awful fascist to me.

                  1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

                    I'm sure that does sound fascist. But maybe you should listen to what I'm saying, instead of whatever that is.

                    And just so we can be suuuuper clear about this, I'm talking about the Stop the Steal pols, the rioters, and accomplices that need to face justice, not Trump voters.

                    1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

                      So, politicians who used their 1a rights to say stuff you don't like? Hardly better.

            2. DesigNate   4 years ago

              Yes, you’re the authoritarian fascist.

            3. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

              You and your White Knight sock consistently post authoritarian apologia and defenses of fascist economics, and yet you have the guts to call the guy with the Jewish family a Nazi.

              You're like a parody of 1984's Parsons.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

          Europe did not heal or move on until they had hung a bunch of Nazi’s.

          History doesn’t repeat itself, but it rhymes. Stay tuned.

          You really ought to read up on modern European history, because a WHOLE bunch of stuff happened for several decades prior to that, and AFTER "they hung a bunch of Nazis", were divided between two hostile camps controlled by global superpowers held back only by deterrence. Prior to that, a whole shit-ton of people were killed, and not just by the Nazis.

          The closest thing to "healing" that took place in Europe in the last 100 years was when the Warsaw Pact fell apart, setting the stage for the EU to formally activate.

          If you think things are crazy now, that's only because you haven't actually lived through anything else. The late 60s-early 70s were FAR more violent than what's going on right now, including several bombings by radical leftists that reached a peak in the early 70s and continued sporadically all the way up to the early 80s--including by one of the current fundraisers for Black Lives Matter, whom Clinton pardoned. Things aren't even CLOSE to as froggy as they've gotten before in this very country.

          1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

            Except in this case the Nazis have won. DOL's one of them. And it's time for their SA to become the SS.

            1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

              The SA didn't become the SS. Hitler eliminated the SA and replaced it with the SS. That is what will happen to Antifa and others too. If we continue down this road.

              1. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

                Their leaders, anyway. The rest of the SA no doubt thought a sinecure with the Orpo on it was a stellar idea.

                Said this a few months ago, but there was likely a meeting or three between some scary junior partner from a DC lobbying firm, and the leadership of Riot Central, explaining the new facts of life. I imagine it resembled Kobayashi meeting the gang in The Usual Suspects, with the new behavior expected from Antifa, and the likely conseqences from thumbing their nose at the new management, all laid out.

                Fading riots is for other people. Not our new rulers.

        4. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

          So you want us to hang democrats? They ARE the American analog analog to the nazi party. What with all the bigotry, authoritarianism, and racism.

    2. Unable2Reason   4 years ago

      "Have you now, or have you ever been, a supporter of Donald J. Trump?"

      1. Longtobefree   4 years ago

        Damn right.

      2. mad.casual   4 years ago

        Stormy Daniels is right out.

    3. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

      Hahaha.
      We need to investigate Trump's ties to Russia. And this time, we're going to do it right!

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

      She wrote with Xi's hand up her back, "Smile Time"-style.

      1. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

        Demonically possessed puppets?

  9. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    But it also has close analogues on the left. Both variants are menaces to liberty.

    Breaking news.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    President-elect Joe Biden is promising to promote an eight-year path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.

    Someone's banking on a new, unshakable voter bloc.

    1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

      And perhaps a dozen new Sanctuary States with voting rights for everyone.

    2. JesseAz   4 years ago

      The caravan of migrants in Honduras think it is for anyone who can make it here in the next 100 days.

      1. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

        That caravan that mysteriously disappeared the day after the election?

        God you people are dumb.

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

          Guatemalan security forces break up US-bound migrant caravan

          That happened yesterday. Fucking idiot.

          1.  Jikina Fatu   4 years ago

            So mysterious!

        2. JesseAz   4 years ago

          You are truly ignorant.

          1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

            It's like fuck's like raspberry, DOL and WK aren't even cognizant of any events that don't appear on their talking points cheat sheet.

            1. Mark Thrust, Sexus Ranger   4 years ago

              They are empty vessels that delusionaly lap up Marxist talking points like pablum.

        3. R Mac   4 years ago

          Looked a lot more like a mob than the people at the capital on the 6th.

    3. Unable2Reason   4 years ago

      How long is 2 Presidential terms so you can't change my policy?

      1. Longtobefree   4 years ago

        Well, whoever's policy it is - - - - - - -

    4. CE   4 years ago

      Now to distribute the new refugees across a variety of swing states....

  11. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    "The internet protocol address it used is owned by DDos-Guard, which is controlled by two Russian men and provides services including protection from distributed denial of service attacks."

    PUTIN'S PUPPETS

    1. Unable2Reason   4 years ago

      Telegram - founded by a Russian. Snowden - sheltered by Russia. Parler - platformed by a Russian. Russia is apparently the new land of the free. If they keep this up, Bernie's going to want his Russian honeymoon back.

      1. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

        ^this.

        Never would have guessed.

        1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

          How self unaware can you all get? Russia isn't free, but what's left of the gop does not desire freedom. They desire conformity and strong leadership. Aka authoritarianism.

          You haven't noticed how most of the Republican base turned into screaming kpop fans for a wannabe strongman who is himself a self admitted "huge fan" of Putin?

          All just coincidences, I'm sure. Just like Trump's son and personal attorney taking a meeting with russian spies which they then went through 3 iterations of lies about until the emails were revealed and had to admit it.

          1. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

            And yet, it is privately owned Russian platforms that are supporting free speech. It is the Russian government giving asylum to the biggest hero of our times, Snowden.

            No one here is a fan of Putin, but things have to be really bad in USA for Russia to be the source of supporting freedom and transparency compared to america. Real fucking bad.

            1. CE   4 years ago

              And China has lower income taxes than the USA.

            2. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   4 years ago

              The thing is, they don't actually support those principles in general and I think we all know that. They've found a few cases where supporting them has some trolling value and they've taken full advantage, but casting Russia as some bastion of liberty is disingenuous. That's usually the kind of argument we leave for Tony's ilk.

            3. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

              I'm sure Trump's silence on bounties and the Solarwinds hack, the largest electronic attack on the US ever, are also just coincidence.

              Russia is waging asymmetrical warfare against us. Their infiltration of GOP aligned PAC and organizations (NRA received up to $30,000,000 from Russia in one year), their hacking of government IT infrastructure, and their sponsoring/inflaming of racial protests and issues are all prongs of this attack.

              1. DesigNate   4 years ago

                I see you’ve decided to give shrike a run for his money...

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

                Russia is waging asymmetrical warfare against us.

                China doesn't have to, because our politicians and corporations have been selling us out to them for 50 years, particularly in the last 25 when the Clintons gave them military tech in exchange for political donations.

                their hacking of government IT infrastructure

                Built in Chinese factories with Chinese backdoors.

                Russia is nowhere close to the threat to this country's sovereignty that China and its enablers here in the US are.

                1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                  China and its enablers here in the US are

                  You're talking to one of them.

                2. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

                  Let's stay on topic, shall we?

                  The GOP is corrupted by a love of authoritarianism and the checks authoritarians can write, and because of that, they are turning a blind eye to Putin's war against the West.

                  1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

                    More authoritarian then the party threatening to punish people for being Trump supporters? I don't think so.

                  2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

                    You brought up hostile nations. I just provided additional information which you studiously ignore.

                3. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

                  "...particularly in the last 25 when the Clintons gave them military tech in exchange for political donations..."

                  +1 set of W88 schematics and engineering prints.

              3. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                What about the part where everyone peed on Obama's bed, and how they swung the election for just $150k in Facebook spam, and how they ruined everything by getting an Assange to show people the horrible shit Hillary was writing in emails?

              4. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

                The bounty that they couldn't find any evidence for according to the intelligence agencies and the DoD investigations? Why comment on them?

                1. DesigNate   4 years ago

                  Because Cytotxic is a neocon piece of gutter trash that can't stop lying?

            4. mad.casual   4 years ago

              He doesn't care about the authoritarianism as much as he cares about the authoritarian. Lockdowns, riots and impeachment, government-funded vaccines... Biden plans to violate the 2A and take greater control of social media, to counter him, Russia funds the NRA and hosts Parler. Nevermind that forbidding a private organization from accepting any international funding or support, whether their business is guns or speech, would be far more authoritarian than anything Biden, Trump, or Putin has done; D.O.L.'s got to make sure that all the retarded children who aren't as quick on the uptake as he is understand that Putin is an authoritarian.

          2. Unable2Reason   4 years ago

            Were the people that voted for Trump GOP? Maybe you can get a seat on one of the Truth and Reconciliation committees.

          3. Nardz   4 years ago

            LOL

      2. Longtobefree   4 years ago

        Just as a reminder, before common core, the large Communist Nation was named The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

        "The Soviet Union, officially the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics[f] (USSR), was a federal socialist state in Northern Eurasia that existed from 1922 to 1991. Nominally a union of multiple national Soviet republics, it was a one-party state (until 1990) governed by the Communist Party, with Moscow as its capital in its largest republic, the Russian SFSR."

        You know, large military presence at major political events, centralized control of the economy, all that jazz.

  12. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

    I wonder what happened to the Left's bravado.

    It used to be whenever someone mentioned the true purpose of the Second Amendment--prohibiting the fedgov to interfere with the right of citizens to own the means to resist the fedgov--leftists would laugh. Why, they'd mock, the Mighty Fedgov will crush you ignorant hillbillies like a bug! So just try it!

    But after a handful of knuckleheads in silly costumes mob the Capitol, now the leftists fill the air with their fearful shrieks: "Sedition! Insurrection! Around every corner! Under my bed! Agggghhhh!!!"

    Heh, that bravado went limp awfully fast.

    1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

      All part of the typical romance novel fantasy.

    2. Overt   4 years ago

      These different takes are entirely consistent. "Don't worry, the federal government will enforce my rules!"

      "Oh no! icky people got too close to controlling the federal government!"

    3. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

      I mean, when the president intentionally puts lackeys in places of power and refuses all calls for more defense, then yeah, that's gonna happen.

      I'd like to see what they try to do now that there are actual people there defending the Capitol.

      1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        Aren’t you going to be disappointed when nobody is killed.

      2. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        As oppose to which president that didn't put latch keys in power?

      3.  Jikina Fatu   4 years ago

        Yes, he was talking about your limp...bravado.

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

        Was there an actual point there, shitlib, or was that one of your ShareBlue copypastas?

      5. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

        "and refuses all calls for more defense"

        The fascist! Thank goodness the Hawks and Neocons are back in power.

    4. CE   4 years ago

      The overreaction is intentional, to paint anyone who complains too loudly or too impolitely as an extremist, to prevent normal people from joining in opposition to Big Brother. And a warning that extremists will be de-personed.

    5. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

      cytotoxic, on his De Opresso Liber incarnation, is upthread calling for hanging Trump supporters and has previously called for using Apache attack helicopters to gun down Trump supporters in the streets. These people are mentally ill sociopaths.

      1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

        Except you made that up.

        When you hyperventilate like that, it reduces O2 to your brain, causing light headedness and idiotic panicking.

        1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

          Fuck off, totalitarian simp.
          You were just calling for political internment camps: https://reason.com/2021/01/19/goodbye-trump-hello-war-on-domestic-terror/#comment-8712029

          1. R Mac   4 years ago

            Damn, missed that. Been trying to tell everyone he’s truly a sociopath.

            1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

              R Mac, are you stupid? Or just disingenuous? Mother is on my do not reply list since she went full anti-Semite. If you want to keep getting attention from me, as you clearly do, you will start bringing some genuine arguments with sources.

              https://reason.com/2021/01/19/goodbye-trump-hello-war-on-domestic-terror/#comment-8712580

              De Oppresso Liber
              January.19.2021 at 6:35 pm

              I’m sure that does sound fascist. But maybe you should listen to what I’m saying, instead of whatever that is.

              And just so we can be suuuuper clear about this, I’m talking about the Stop the Steal pols, the rioters, and accomplices that need to face justice, not Trump voters.

              1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                When the hell have I ever said anything remotely antisemitic, you lying fuck.

                You disgusting dishonest little turd. How fucking dare you make that slimebag accusation.
                I want an apology and I want it fucking now. If you don't I'm going to make your time here completely fucking miserable.

  13. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

    "it fails to include the traditional trade-off of enhanced border security favored by many Republicans"

    Of course it doesn't. The Democratic Party has totally embraced the Koch / Reason open borders agenda. The inherently racist practice of "border enforcement" will be abolished as soon as Biden takes office.

    #OpenBorders
    #(EspeciallyDuringAPandemic)

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Everyone in the world has the right to access US taxpayer funds.

      1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

        And by taxpayer funds they mean wealth owned by the evil top ten percent.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          Don’t worry, SleepyJoe gonna knock those guys down to size.

        2. TJJ2000   4 years ago

          "evil top ten percent" -- Politicians?

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

            Silly TJJ2000. Like the same rules would apply to THEIR wealth.

        3. CE   4 years ago

          What wealth?
          You mean national debt to be paid back by the evil top 47 percent.

    2. Unable2Reason   4 years ago

      At this point, a positive flood of Mexicans looks pretty appetizing compared to importing a bunch of Jihadists like Europe. Maybe they'll satisfy their urges for mass migration with the Mexicans and save us from the real danger.

      1. CE   4 years ago

        Yeah, Republicans should count their lucky stars, drop the xenophobia, and welcome the masses of pro-family, hard working, Christian immigrants. They are natural Republicans.

    3. CE   4 years ago

      Notice the path to citizenship is a Day One legislative priority for Biden/Harris, but their campaign ads were quite silent about it.

  14. R Mac   4 years ago

    With Americans still reeling from the January 6 Capitol riot

    Media. You mean media.

    1. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

      No, I think most Americans think there's quite a lot wrong with the attempted coup. Maybe not the fascists here but everyone else, yes.

      1. Zeb   4 years ago

        I still don't see how "attempted coup" is at all accurate. In what way and by what means were they trying to take control of the government? What possible scenario was there where anything like that could happen?

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

          Showing up where actual people in power are doing the thing that is objectionable and attempting to communicate displeasure must be characterized as seditious insurrection in support of a coup specifically because it undermines the narrative the media helped create over the last year.

          Taking a protest over a congressional act directly to Congress could lead to people questioning whether protests in far flung locations around the country over police violence in Minneapolis were held in an appropriate venue or properly directed at the responsible parties.

          The lack of property damage makes burning down a Wendys look less like the inevitable result of mob mentality taking over an oppressed people fed up with the system and more like an attempt to intimidate a business for a police response on their property.

          That the riot was contained and violence only directed at those impeding its advance makes the rationalization all summer of assaults and looting as punishment and reparations for past inequities seem shallow and self serving of media personalities trying to capitalize on the outrage.

          Most of all, the lack of reoccurrence in DC or throughout the nation makes the response of mayors who tied the hands of police and their continued refusal of federal assistance look like less of a measured response to the validity of the summer protests and more like political maneuvering to create a ongoing situation that could be blamed on the administration whether it allowed it to continue or stepped in to quell the unrest.

          January 6 cannot be allowed to be seen in context with the year of protests, so it must be something different and much more sinister. Insurrection. A coup. Domestic terrorism.

      2. TJJ2000   4 years ago

        Freak-en really - from 10 unarmed people breaking a door?
        What is this Pansy-Patch Pandemic 2020??

        Don't let the bed bugs byte....
        OMG!!! Bed Bugs threatened the Nation!!!

        I don't know about you; but I'm sick and tired of painted alarmist narratives that go no where but MORE POWER over the people.

      3. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

        "coup" LOL

        There was never any chance whatsoever these people were going to somehow install a new government. To even use the word "coup" or "insurrection" is delusional.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

          Also calling it a 'Siege'. The poor Congress people must have missed the catered luncheon.

      4. R Mac   4 years ago

        Well, you’re a fucking idiot then. And a hypocrite to boot.

    2. The_Unknown_Pundit   4 years ago

      Yup.

      Lots of Americans have been reeling from months of left-wing rioting in several cities, leading to 30+ deaths, and $2 billion worth of property damage. And then there are the businesses that will never be re-opened and the jobs lost. Lots of neighborhoods may never recover. If they do, it will likely take decades. Their stories are ignored by Reason and the MSM. But they will publish an interview with some antifa scum and kind of shrug their shoulders.

      And the one thing they all have in common is that Democrats have complete political control in all these states and cities where the rioting occurred, yet did next to nothing to protect peoples’ rights. The first job of every elected official is to maintain public order. But many of them championed bail funds so left-wingers caught breaking the law could get out and break them again. Some members of congress were encouraging people to get out every evening as property damage, injuries and deaths kept mounting. Totally irresponsible.

      Democrat mayors, governors and council members were derelict in their duties. Will anyone at Reason write a story on this?

      But a small number of Republicans get out of control for a few minutes in DC and bring in the feinting couches for the Democrats and their media sycophants, like those at Reason. It’s laughable to watch Pelosi, AOC and others talk about the supposed fear they had. But I bet none of them ever had a second thought about the fear people have lived through these past several months at the hands of these left-wing rioters.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

        That ruckus instilled maybe 1/10,000 of the fear that Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic Party have been fomenting the last four years, but, like the areas where the CHAZs were shut down because Antifa tried threatening Democratic leaders personally, they didn't give a shit until the chaos they promoted wound up in their office with their feet on their desk, reading their emails.

  15. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

    "...the US should think about a '9/11 Commission' for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the fight against Al Qaeda here at home,"

    Coming with a drone, near you.

    1. CE   4 years ago

      Is Gitmo still open?

  16. Moonrocks   4 years ago

    Remember when it was fascism for federal agents to protect federal buildings?

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

      FALSE EQUIVALENCE

    2. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

      Well now that depends; are the occupiers right wing nut jobs in MAGA hats? Well then that is insurrection and defilement! But if they represent public unions, BLM, or any such noble cause to uplift the oppressed, well that is just democracy in action!

      1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

        Democracy for me but not for thee.

        1. Moonrocks   4 years ago

          It's their democracy, not yours.

      2. CE   4 years ago

        A South Carolina man is being tracked down for criminal prosecution after posting a photo on Facebook with a statue of a former Vice President at the Capitol. A former VP from South Carolina who has been removed from the acceptable statue list in South Carolina. As if posing with a statue in a public building is a crime.

  17. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

    "Former intelligence official on PBS NewsHour tonight saying that the US should think about a '9/11 Commission' for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the fight against Al Qaeda here at home," noted Evan Hill of The New York Times last night.

    So... drone strikes on wedding parties?

    1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

      Only in flyover country.

      1. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

        And anyplace where gatherings are banned. Better for all to die in a fiery blast from a Hellfire missile than risk some people maybe getting the coof.

    2. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Navy seal raids on citizens.

    3. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

      Thousands More Standing Around.

    4. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   4 years ago

      Seems a fitting punishment for those unwilling to obey the quarantine orders. How dare you get married!

      1. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

        They're LITERALLY killing grandma! Serves them right for trying to kill grandma! Don't they know that's the government's job?

    5. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

      We are clearly too dangerous to be unsurveilled.

  18. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

    Wait, so Hawley is going to get his book published anyway?
    Parler is back on line anyway?

    Even after they were "SILENCED"? Which brought about cries and howls and demands that the government DO SOMETHING?

    Why it's almost as if markets work without the government forcing people to associate with each other against their will.

    Simon & Schuster wasn't forced to "bake the cake" for Hawley, and AWS wasn't forced to "bake the cake" for Parler, and both Hawley and Parler are going to end up just as well off, if not more so, than they were before.

    That is how liberty is supposed to work and this is what libertarians IMO should be praising as a way for all parties involved to be able to enjoy their property and their liberty without government coercion forcing them to do things that they don't want to do.

    You're welcome.

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      SleepyJoe sees these events you trumpet as a failure. He will tighten the screws.

      1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        Since Parler is doing business with Russia a I am sure that is the angle they will use.

        1. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

          ^This^

          I can already see it coming. "RuShAn CoLuShIn!!!1!!!!1 DERP!!!!!!!!!"

    2. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Censorship is just fine for jeff. He applauds it.

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        He is a radical individualist who wants to be just like every scumbag on the left. He hates independent thought just like all radical individuals

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

          Liar. The scumbags on the left want the government to silence Parler permanently. The scumbags on the right want the government to force AWS to host Parler against their will. The libertarians are the ones properly defending property rights and association rights of all involved. That is what I'm doing, unlike the usual right-wing suspects around here who claim to be libertarian, but in reality, only support liberty insofar as it supports right-wing goals. The moment that liberty is used to do something that makes them sad, suddenly it's time for government action to "correct the injustice".

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

        Censorship is great for private individuals and private companies with their own property. Absolutely. It is called property rights. Maybe you should look into it.

        Censorship by the government is the problematic part.

        1. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

          So I can tell a faggot who comes into my store that I don't serve faggots and they can fuck off and die, right?

          Oh, and I can tell uppity niggers who try to eat at my lunch counter that I don't serve niggers and they can go fuck off and die, right?

          And if some cunt tries to apply for a job at Big Cock Enterprises I can tell her we don't hire dumb cunts and she can fuck off and die, right?

          Private property!!!!!!!!!

          The hilarious part is going to be when the worm turns and your freshman polysci ideology becomes insufficiently radical and you end up against the wall squealing like a stuck pig.

    3. JesseAz   4 years ago

      I like how you dont even recognize the business harm caused by shutting down the number 1 app when it was shut down. You have no fucking clue what capture is. Even a week or two of shut down can kill a growing business. And you applaud it because people call you fat and it makes you cry.

      You aren't a libertarian. You're just fine with corporatism. You are fine with market collusion. You are fine with anti free market behavior. As long as it means your side can shut someone down.

      And parler is still not back up you fucking idiot. They have a simplified website and can't host half of what they use to. Much of their user base moved on to places like Gab. So you are cheering the crippling of a business because you're a fat piece of shit.

      1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        I think it will backfire. People will flock to Parler because of what they had done to them.

        1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

          But without a mobile platform, they will struggle to recover.

      2. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

        What an idiot. You're no libertarian you idiot. You're arguing FOR govt interference in the private market.

        In what world is that libertarian?

        Go back to crying some more snowflake because someone took your white supremacist platform offline.

        1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

          Condemning the act isn't asking for government interference. Nowhere did he call for government actions in the post you are responding to.

          1. Overt   4 years ago

            But to be clear, JesseAZ has many times endorsed government mandating neutrality on platforms. At the least, reforming 230 so that it somehow would force large platforms to moderate in a neutral manner.

            All that said, I think everyone's views on the matter have been shifting as their particular ox is being gored. I am absolutely against reform of 230 restrictions. However, I see room here for the government to subpoena lots of records of big tech firms to see what kind of market collusion is going on here. There is no way in hell that all platforms miraculously chose to de-platform Alex Jones and then Parler at exactly the same times.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

              However, I see room here for the government to subpoena lots of records of big tech firms to see what kind of market collusion is going on here.

              Any "investigation" is going to be pure theater that deliberately overlooks systemic Democratic malfeaseance, while focusing entirely on marginal cases where Republicans went awry.

              There's really no reason to trust ANY commission established by Democrats to "find the truth." The "truth" would be manufactured and signal-boosted by their media allies on the very platforms supposedly being investigated.

            2. JesseAz   4 years ago

              I've actually mandated enforcement of their terms including the tossing of vague contractual terms. The same as every other industry.

            3. JesseAz   4 years ago

              And make 230 liability protections conditioned on 1a requirements. A company would be free to censor for no protections.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

                So the little hobbyist forums and church lady forums have to accept porn and trolls on their forums, or they become liable for every defamatory content that the trolls post there? This is what you think is "fair"?

                1. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

                  Just like it was in 1996!!!!!! IS THIS THE FUTURE YOU WANT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        2. JesseAz   4 years ago

          I'm arguing for contract enforcement you retarded fuck. As I have been for over a year.

          1. SQRLSY One   4 years ago

            "We reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason at any time."

            From the top, right above. QUIT your whining, crybaby! Tell us, WHAT conceivable basis do YOU, whiner, have in the face of THAT contract?

            Take your shit (posting "rights") here for FREE, then BITCH-BITCH-BITCH-BITCH about it! Ask for your money back, greedy power-pig asshole!

      3. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

        You clearly are fine with shoving words into people's mouths.

        Unlike a lot of so-called libertarians who think that the apotheosis of libertarianism is markets and money, I recognize that the apotheosis of libertarianism is actually CHOICE. Let people choose to do whatever they want with their own property and their own time and money (excluding of course NAP violations). That is what I am "fine" with.

        What are you "fine" with, Jesse? Forcing individuals to do business with each other even when they don't want to? Having government regulators policing alleged "market collusion" even though it is simply individuals choosing to cooperate freely with each other without coercion? Having a government bureau of fairness to police the market to make sure everything is "fair"? Is this what you are fine with? If not, then tell us all how you would demand AWS to host Parler on their servers while still respecting AWS's private property rights. Oh wait that's right, you wouldn't, you would nationalize AWS under the pretense of "well they have government contracts anyway, might as well just acknowledge reality then and have the government fully take them over". Who is the actual corporatist here, Jesse? It isn't me.

        1. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

          Unlike a lot of so-called libertarians who think that the apotheosis of libertarianism is markets and money, I recognize that the apotheosis of libertarianism is actually CHOICE.

          AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          While squealing like a stuck pig about white supremacists being "given" a platform, then when they choose to launch their own platforms, applauding restraint of trade to keep them from accessing basic services like utilities and banking.

          And of course, I can choose to decline the business of faggots, right cytotoxic? You're 100% cool with that.

    4. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

      Just because it wasn't successful doesn't make it any less sinister.

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        Exactly.
        Jeff's claiming an attempted de-platforming didn't work, so there was no attempt.
        Ken got Jeff's number; Jeff's too fucking stupid to understand there is a difference between his fantasies and facts.

      2. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        He's like side show Bob "what is attempted murder anyway? They don't give out Nobel prizes for attempted physics"

    5. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

      And most of us didn't call for the government to do something (outside the general usual suspects who did but have for some time) we simply condemned the act and also pointed out that in the current regulatory world start your own business isn't always a viable option. If anything, we asked for the government to do less, e.g. less regulations and less crony capitalism.

      1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        You can't defend 230 using the start your own business if you also don't call for less regulations to make it possible to start your own business and end crony capitalism. Also, while some of us did defend the lawsuit, it was based upon contractual obligations, which contracts being the basis of the free market. If we didn't have to honor contracts the market will fail. None of these principles are anti-liberty. The fact that you misrepresented most posters arguments is evidence that this is a partisan issue for you, which isn't surprising.

        1. TJJ2000   4 years ago

          There's no such thing as "crony capitalism". Either that state has control via socialism or it doesn't. It has and always will be "crony socialism or communism".

          1. SQRLSY One   4 years ago

            Kinda like Der TrumpfenFuher passing out "special exemptions" for "special people", from non-free-trade tariffs, AKA protectionism?

            https://reason.com/2021/01/18/carjacker-beaverton-mom-kid-waiting/#comment-8710844
            Model TJJ2000 Dictatorbot believes that the USA already is (and should be) a 1-party dictatorshit! That the USA HAS BEEN a 1-party dictatorshit for some 200 years!!! There is NO point in trying to persuade the Model TJJ2000 Dictatorbot of ANYTHING! Almost ALL of the circuits of the Model TJJ2000 Dictatorbot have gone kaput, big-time!

            Model TJJ2000 Dictatorbot is lusting after an UPGRADE to its rusting old body! Wants to be upgraded to Model TJJ20666 Dictatorbot, and run for POTUS in 2024, with Alex Jones as the VEEP of Model TJJ20666 Dictatorbot!!! Be ye WARNED!!! Model TJJ20666 Dictatorbot will be well-nigh INDESTRUCTIBLE! (Unreachable by ANY logic or considerations for the freedoms of others, MOST certainly!)

            PLEASE do NOT enable the lusting of the rusting TJJ20666 Dictatorbot!!!

            1. TJJ2000   4 years ago

              .... And when logic fails; there's always personal attacks...

              What is it about lefty cheerleader's emotions that doesn't allow them to consider anything that goes against their initially-held-beliefs no matter what? It's like watching an identity crisis occur.

              Toooo much emotions not enough brain...

      2. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

        Do less? Less like what? The govt did NOTHING about it. AWS and Apple and Google all made their own decisions and so did Parler.

        What you're seeing is the free market in action.

        Bunch of faux libertarians on here just all upset when things aren't as they always envisioned.

        1. Sevo   4 years ago

          "...Simon & Schuster wasn’t forced to “bake the cake” for Hawley, and AWS wasn’t forced to “bake the cake” for Parler, and both Hawley and Parler are going to end up just as well off, if not more so, than they were before.
          That is how liberty is supposed to work..."

          Yeah, shit-for-brains, you and Jeff can cream your jeans when the guy from the government gives somebody a nudge and says 'nice little company you got there; shame if something happens to it'
          To both of you assholes: You're welcome.

        2. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

          You missed the point do less means less regulations that allow freer competition. No, the government didn't do anything directly, but it's regulatory state created the atmosphere in which this event occurred. You either knee that and misrepresented my argument or you are willfully ignorant.

        3. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

          Notice I stated regulations and crony capitalism as examples of what we want the government to do less of. You ignoring this makes me hypothesize that you were purposely misrepresenting what I stated

          1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

            Forget it soldier. He is exceptionally retarded. If you make the case that the sky is blue he will argue that your wrong because plants are green

        4. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

          Do less? Less like what?

          Stop offering special exemptions from legal liability to oligopolistic businesses who owe their entire existence to capitalization from In-Q-Tel and are allowed to operate only to the extent that they serve as a trinket of the surveillance state.

          AWS and Apple and Google all made their own decisions

          And when they all make the exact same decision at the exact same time to exclude a competitor from the market, that's called restraint of trade.

    6.  Jikina Fatu   4 years ago

      "Even after they were “SILENCED”? Which brought about cries and howls and demands that the government DO SOMETHING?"

      No that's just the straw man you hide behind to justify your cowardly inaction.

    7. TJJ2000   4 years ago

      Well Said Chemjeff; Now I just hope Biden's Administration doesn't *force* censorship even though he's already *promised* to take-down right-wing "misinformation?, extremists?, terrorists?, insurrectionists?" take your pick of name-calling but baseless claims.

      During the Obama Administration the FBI was instructed to monitor anyone who spoke of the U.S. Constitution and be held in suspicion of being a Domestic Terrorist. I see Biden is toeing the same line and I fear might even be worse than Obama.

      What do you call it when 'Patriots' are labelled as 'Terrorists'? Oh yeah; the beginnings of a Revolutionary War and a New Regime replacing the old one ( The U.S. Constitution ).

      I seriously hope I'm overstating this; but after the Obama Administration - any trust in the left is entirely gone.

      1. TJJ2000   4 years ago

        It's not as if they 'hide' these Revolutionary Delusions. FDR's "New Deal" for America, Al-Gore's "Moral Imagination" for America, Obama's, "Fundamentally Changing the Nation".

        None of them wanted the USA to survive their own administration. They all had "Big Revolutionary PLANS".... And used the USA'S own top-level of government (federal) to Fundamentally Change the Nation till today when I read the Constitution and think what in the world nation was this written for because it doesn't describe the current USA'S Federal Government hardly at all.

    8. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

      It's almost like your argument is so juvenile and sophistic that it's already been anticipated and addressed 250 million times

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

        U mad bro?

        This article commits the same fallacy that a lot of right-wing writers make on the subject: to vastly overstate the power of Big Tech in order to create fear about them and warn darkly of impending fascism. Is Amazon a big company? Yes. Do they have the power to "DESTROY" Parler? NO. Look - it's back! Only the state has the power to fully destroy and utterly silence anyone. No company, not even one as big as Amazon has the power to do that. The reason why censorship by government is FAR worse than censorship by any private individual is that ONLY censorship by government means that the censored is fully, completely, utterly silenced. With every other form of censorship, that is not the case. Parler itself proved it.

        1. Michael S. Langston   4 years ago

          Paler isn't back and is very damaged for its forced time off - all of which you ignore even after it's been pointed out to you. Making you disingenuous or retarded, or a bit of both.

          In any event, stop ignoring reality moron. Things like Paler was very damaged, possibly beyond repair, and the fact you're not a libertarian.

  19. Jefferson's Ghost   4 years ago

    "Former intelligence official on PBS NewsHour tonight saying that the US should think about a '9/11 Commission' for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the fight against Al Qaeda here at home,"

    Drone strikes on American citizens?

    1. Michael S. Langston   4 years ago

      According to jeff, so long as they're trespassing, it'll be a "good shoot".

  20. Bill Godshall   4 years ago

    "Domestic Terrorism" is the nothing more than the new conspiracy theory being pushed by left wing Trump hating propagandists want to replace their false (but very effective) conspiracy theory lie (funded by Clinton, and repeated daily by the media) that Trump was a Russian spy.

    All of the socialists and morons who actually believed that Trump was a Russian spy have already swallowed the new conspiracy theory lie that Trump supporters are domestic terrorists.

    1. CE   4 years ago

      They did find a cooler full of Molotov cocktails somebody brought to the DC protest. Even if fewer of them were deployed than on a typical weeknight in Portland.

  21. JesseAz   4 years ago

    NBC10 Philadelphia
    @NBCPhiladelphia
    #BREAKING: President-elect Joe Biden has tapped Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine to be his assistant secretary of health, leaving her poised to become the first transgender federal official to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

    Who is Levine? The transgender health lead of Pa who pulled their own parents out of nursing homes while covid ravaged nursing homes in Pa due to Levine's management.

    1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

      Immoral, not stupid.

    2. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      It pays to be related to someone in the inner party.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

      Who is Levine? The transgender health lead of Pa who pulled their own parents out of nursing homes while covid ravaged nursing homes in Pa due to Levine’s management.

      IOW she knew full well that what she was doing would lead to deaths in the nursing homes but did it anyway. In a just world this wannabe bitch would be in prison for murder along with Cuomo, Murphy, Whitmer, and anyone else who was responsible for policies that lead directly to thousands of nursing home deaths.

      1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

        If this doesn't signal she (and other high officials) didn't know what they were doing, I don't know what would.

        1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

          *Knew what they were doing.
          Why else would she pull them out?

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

          Why are you indulging the dysphoria of a mentally ill public health official? Levine is a male and forever will be a male, even if he does display the typical feminine neuroticism of your average urbanite.

          And it's telling that Biden has nominated one of last year's Lockdown Warriors for a ranking cabinet position.

          1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

            I've just decided this isn't something worth fighting over.

            I'm not up for them competing in the same sports, or being in the same prisons, but I'm not going to make my stand on calling them by their biologically correct gender pronouns.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

              "This isn't the hill to die on" is going to be the epitaph on the tombstone of post-Enlightenment Western Civilization.

              1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

                I'm just saying that the battleground is not at the point of being rude to people. That's just not a war that anybody is going to win.

                1. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

                  I didn't see your reply when I wrote my post just a second ago, OSL.

                  'Rudeness' is exactly how the Left has demanded and achieved the adoption of their cultural norms, while insisting that you decry and ignore yours.

                  Eventually---and you can look no further than Libertarian Jo as an example---it will be insufficient to merely be silent and hold an opposing view. Instead, we will be required to openly advocate for the norms we are told we must hold. Right, Ms. 'It's not enough to not be racist, we must be Anti-Racist?'

              2. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

                This. We don't defend our culture, and we're somehow surprised when it gets supplanted by one that does get fought for. As objectively awful as Western Civilization's replacement is going to be.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

                  There's far too many people on the non-left who don't understand how the will to power works.

                  "It's okay when we do it" is one of the operational principles of any dominant ideology or civilization. It's why a lot of libertarians on this board are able to live in the current states they inhabit--because the people who conquered those lands exercised a literal double-standard--one for themselves, and one for the people they killed, displaced, and stuck on reservations.

          2. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

            Assistant Health Secretary is not a cabinet position.

            This person has little to know power. We're going hearing about it because MUH TRANZ!

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

              Assistant Health Secretary is not a cabinet position.

              It's a position within the Department of Health and Human Services. I didn't say he was going to be in charge of the whole department, but he will be one who will be empowered to push whatever fashionable pop science the administration is pimping.

              Those assistant secretaries might not be the Big Cheese, but they can create far more mischief than you might realize.

  22. Jefferson's Ghost   4 years ago

    "'...the terrorism we saw on Jan. 6 may be only the beginning, rather than the end, of the plot against America."

    Terrorism? A few stupid people doing really stupid things, but terrorism? Give me a break.

    1. Moonrocks   4 years ago

      Gotta push that media narrative.

    2. Nail   4 years ago

      Dude they overwhelmed the entire police force, took countless lives and almost overthrew the entire government, all completely unarmed. If that's not a terrorist force the likes of which the world's never seen, then you need to go read more MSNBC.

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

        I thought I saw Chuck Norris in that crowd...

        1. Nail   4 years ago

          ... God help us.

      2. mamabug   4 years ago

        I do like how all the narrative calls it a 'deadly attack on the US Capitol' or similar. Typically, that is language used when the attacker kills a number of people, not the inverse.

        Seriously, when do you see a headline that reads 'Bank Robberly leaves 5 dead!' when all 5 killed were the bank robbers?

        1. Nail   4 years ago

          It's almost like the whole narrative is bullshit or something. Ah well, too much for me to figure out.

    3. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

      I mean, they did invade the Capitol and some were hunting down political leaders. They had a gallows outside.

      I'm pretty sure if this happened in any 3rd world country we'd be the first to call it terrorism.

      But hey- keep your head in the sand.

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        "I mean, they did invade the Capitol and some were hunting down political leaders. They had a gallows outside..."

        Lefty shits swallow all sorts of propaganda and love doing so.

      2. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        And the left hand guillotines set up outside people's houses and rioted during Trump's inauguration. Are you also going to call them terrorist. And it wasn't an invasion. That is inflammatory, partisan language, it was a riot born from a protest the same as the last summer's riots. Which included riots in DC.

      3. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        We need more armed troops and barbed wire fences in DC!
        SleepyJoe

      4. Jefferson's Ghost   4 years ago

        "But hey- keep your head in the sand."

        Then I guess that all protests which turn violent should be considered terrorism? I guess the riots in Watts and other cities were "terrorism?"

        1. retiredfire   4 years ago

          Benghazi, 9/11/12.

    4. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   4 years ago

      Some people did some things.

    5. Zeb   4 years ago

      Yeah, it's fucking nuts. I am just amazed at how it's being spun. Some idiots did some things and deserve punishment. But it was mostly a pretty normal political protest. Even most of the people who bum rushed the Capitol seemed just to be checking the place out like they were on a tour.
      And they keep talking about 5 deaths as if the protestors killed 5 people. When, as far as I have seen, one person was killed very questionably by police, one person got an accidental head injury and sadly died and 3 people died because of health problems, possible exacerbated by all the excitement.

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

        Some outlets now calling it a 'Siege'. Don't these journalists own a dictionary?

        1. Moonrocks   4 years ago

          They don't need to. The dictionary will adjust to fit the narrative.

          1. Zeb   4 years ago

            Siege now means a group of 10 or more people trying to get through a door that is locked.

    6. CE   4 years ago

      "insurrection" didn't scare people enough

  23. JesseAz   4 years ago

    While the change of tone to one recognizing the authoritarian nature of the left is welcome... fuck off for not recognizing this prior to the election despite no change in democrat posture regarding these issues. You had a chance to stand up when shit like the ny post being censored happened and you failed. So fuck off ENB. Youre a joke of a libertarian.

    1. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

      Coming from you that's a compliment. You're no libertarian- you're a fascist who wants everything your way.

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        "...You’re no libertarian- you’re a fascist who wants everything your way."

        TDS-addled lefty shits are in no position to make any claims regarding libertarianism.

      2. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        The same epitaph applies more to the left than the right. The left is the ones calling to cancel and punish Trump supporters and AOC wants the government to control the media's messaging under threat of law.

        1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

          And the left's preferred economic model is textbook fascism economics.

      3. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        Actually the person who want the govement to cajole private companies to suppress political rivals and enact the gole of the party in power is the fascist. And I believe that would be you raspberrythundercunt

      4.  Jikina Fatu   4 years ago

        So they banned your other Buttplug account now too I see.

      5. JesseAz   4 years ago

        The only thing you've ever proven in your time as this sock is that you don't know what fascism is.

      6. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

        Hey cyototoxic, remember when you said that Trump supporters should be gunned down by Apache attack helicopters because you're an authoritarian bootlicking state worshiping pathetic little faggot who can't get off his lardass and actually effectuate any of his bloodthirsty revenge fantasies himself? Good times.

  24. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

    ...it seems we may have a lot more to fear from status quo authoritarians than the MAGA nationalist crowd right now.

    Gee, what a shock. Surely you're not just now figuring out that establishment democrats are a bunch of authoritarian asshats, and that Joe Biden has never in his entire 50 year political career seen an increase in federal power that he didn't like?

  25. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

    So odds on how long until we have a new Ruby Ridge and Waco?

    1. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

      How long until the next OKC Bombing, you mean.

      1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        That will be the media's focus for sure but the first two events need to happen first.

        1. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

          No, Soldier. They need public, televised blood if they really want to push this "War on Domestic Terrorism," and get it to really resonate with John and Jane Q. They really don't have enough yet. With an OKC, or the public killing of a very high profile symbol---I mentioned AOC as a possibility in an earlier thread---they might.

          It depends on what you believe the goals are for those who pull Biden's strings. I have thought they desire chaos, and a permanently weakened America. What subsequent actions from now assist those goals?

    2. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

      I'm expecting it any day now.

    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

      Ruby Ridge is the much better example. An idiot who engaged in an illegal act at the request of federal agents in an effort to get him to inform on another bunch of idiots with bad ideas that he was only tangentially associated with, who holed up after being improperly threatened by a federal judge. The opening for that scenario already happened in Wisconsin, and I guarantee you it is playing out in multiple FBI field offices as we speak.

      1. Ron   4 years ago

        the sooner the FBI can make examples of people the quicker they move up the corporate ladder. they are probably stumbling over each other trying to entrap people as I write this.

      2. Huma Abedin   4 years ago

        Weaver never engaged in any illegal act. The sawed off shotgun was never found, never proven. He was given a summons for the wrong date and in any case refused to accept it. Then armed agents of the state illegally place cameras and surveillance equipment on his property without a warrant and stalked his family, murdered his son, laid siege to his land, and systematically shot every person there including his unarmed wife who was holding a baby in her arms. All of this because in 1989 an FBI snitch embedded in a white supremacist group tried to recruit him to snitch out his neighbors and he told him to fuck himself.

    4. Ron   4 years ago

      First 100 days just like everything else they plan to do

      1. CE   4 years ago

        At Biden's age, you don't want to put things off for too long.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          He’s not buying any green bananas.

          1. Michael S. Langston   4 years ago

            lol

    5. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

      We already had Ruby Ridge and Waco. Biden's going to have to up the stakes and the body count. Perhaps he can just stick with children this time.

  26. Bill Godshall   4 years ago

    Biden has just nominated PA Secretary of Health Rachel Levine (formerly Richard Levine) to be Assistant Secretary of DHHS, just so the news media could claim "as a historic first, Biden names a the first transgender to his administration".

    Before changing his/her sexual identity and before being appointed by Tom Wolf, Levine (who had no public health background) was a government employed child psychiatrist. Cannot imagine any parent taking their sexually confused child to a similarly confused psychiatrist.

    But Levine's claim to fame was that he/she removed his/her own mother from a nursing home just after Levine and Gov Wolf (just like Cuomo in NY) forced all nursing homes in PA to accept/admit covid patients, which is why two thirds of covid deaths in PA were nursing home residents.

    1. Overt   4 years ago

      Talk about failing up.

      1. The_Unknown_Pundit   4 years ago

        Always remember, just because an appointee is given the position due to them checking off some identity box, rest assured they are still super duper qualified to hold the office.

    2. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

      Are we discussing qualifications? Can we discuss, oh I don't know, literally everyone in the Trump admin who were in no way qualified for their posts?

      Mattis was the lone standout amongst a sea of unqualified morons whose only qualification was how much they donated to daddy trump's campaign.

      1. Overt   4 years ago

        So Biden is just as bad as Trump? Jesus, I thought you were rooting for team Blue, but ok.

        1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

          Better take than mine.

      2. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        You may not agree with them but Devos was qualified and Carson had at least some qualifications for his job (lived experience).

        1. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

          You're not getting it. Literally everyone in the Trump admin, even the lower level bureaucrats who have been working in the government going back several administrations, were unqualified for their jobs by virtue of working for the BAD ORANGE MAN. Literally all of them.

          And the ones who will stay on in the Biden administration will magically become competent again starting at 12:00 noon tomorrow once the curse of the ORANGE MAN has been lifted.

        2. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

          Devos was qualified

          It's the department of education. Everyone of us is qualified.

          1. Jeff L.   4 years ago

            Speak for yourself. I went to a statist public school.

      3. Sevo   4 years ago

        "Are we discussing qualifications? Can we discuss, oh I don’t know, literally everyone in the Trump admin who were in no way qualified for their posts?"

        Can we discuss how TDS-addled lefty shits do nothing other than ie and make idiotic claims?

      4. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        As soon as we discuss kagen and her judicial record before the Supreme Court, o wait she had none.

      5.  Jikina Fatu   4 years ago

        "Can we discuss, oh I don’t know, literally everyone in the Trump admin who were in no way qualified for their posts?"

        No. They're not in charge of anything anymore.

    3. Ron   4 years ago

      In reality Biden just hired a man instead of a woman. Sexist. people changing their race and sex for upward movement, regular people need not apply.

  27. CannedSaltyHam   4 years ago

    Yeah, it's possible. I was a writer on a libertarian publication and was so poor and unpopular that the only cocktail parties I attended were under highway overpasses and bridges. But now I'm making bank writing stuff the CCP approves and I didn't even have to sell out my core principles of open borders for drug dealers and sex workers! I just bought a smart car invented by a cool Chinese start-up. It has an amazing self-eugenicide feature which they assure me is very libertarian because I can activate it myself in case I am compromised by the enemy (such as far-right terrorists or Republican relatives)

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-develops-helmets-for-military-soldiers-with-self-destruct-button_3651136.html

  28. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

    "The more explicit they make it that they're using the first War on Terror model for their new one domestically, the better," responded Glenn Greenwald. "Please keep up this candor."

    Greenwald is making the same mistake as a lot of other journalists in assuming that there's someone in a position of power somewhere who cares what average people think about anything.
    That won't be true for at least another two years, and if it starts being true two years from now, that will only be because the Republicans won control of the House or the senate.

    The progressives that control our government do not care what Greenwald thinks of their policies, what I think of their policies, or what anyone else thinks of their policies. Now that the Democrats have control of both chambers in Congress and the White House, there is nothing else of importance for them to take into consideration.

    Joe Biden will be too old and decrepit to run a traditional post-pandemic campaign in 2024. Nancy Pelosi has already promised not to seek the Speaker's chair in 2022. They don't fear the repercussions of future elections. In fact, the biggest threat to Nancy Pelosi's leadership is being insufficiently radical for the progressives that dominate the House. They'll replace her for being insufficiently radical in a heartbeat--especially if she's insufficiently radical on the subject of Republican "terrorists". And it wouldn't even take her active opposition to legislation to trigger her ouster, an inadvertent tweet being insufficiently radical would suffice.

    Greenwald (and other journalists who wanted Trump removed from office) are having trouble accepting the real world consequences of Trump leaving office--because they purposely contributed to Trump's loss to the best of their ability. Now that the consequences of Trump's loss are becoming obvious and bad for everybody in so many ways, they're compensating with a delusion that there's some invisible, imaginary force that restrains the progressives absent control of the levers of government.

    The progressives aren't about to hold back against Republican "terrorism" because Greenwald, ENB, Ken Shultz, or anyone else outside of government criticizes them for treating average Americans like Al Qaeda--not for the next two years anyway.

    Yes, one of the consequences of the Democrats taking control of all the levers of government is that no one in control of the government cares what journalists or what we the people think about anything anymore--and these consequences were not only foreseeable but also foreseen. This is the world people like Greenwald and the staff at Reason helped create by pushing for Trump to lose. If people like Greenwald didn't realize these were the consequences, then he's a fool.

    We've been bemoaning the demise of the honest liberal for a long time. Some people like to imagine that Greenwald may be one. I suppose the test for that is upon us. The fact is we will be ruled by authoritarians and socialists for the next two years at the very least, and if and when that condition ends, it will only end because the Republicans retake the House or the senate two years from now. To the extent that so called "honest liberals" start pushing for Republicans to win the House and senate two years from now, that will be the extent to which they are honest.

    Yes, 100 days into Biden's first term, it will be too late to do anything to change the awful authoritarianism that will be inflicted on us, but by then, Greenwald, Reason staff, and others will have had plenty of time to realize what a terrible mistake they made. Either that, or their transformation into apologists for authoritarianism and socialism will be entirely complete.

    1. CE   4 years ago

      or they will be canceled and deplatformed. hopefully not arrested and rounded up.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   4 years ago

      Not my impression that Greenwald wanted Trump removed. He certainly didn't support Biden. Maybe you have a cite.

  29. Jerryskids   4 years ago

    Parler is partially back. After being dropped from Amazon's web hosting services last week, the conservative social platform is back online—albeit not yet functional again.

    Good to know that free speech is considered a conservative value. Makes it pretty clear exactly what we're in favor of conserving. And what progressives are in favor of destroying.

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      They will be shut down next week and nothing will be said about it.

    2. Carlos Carlos   4 years ago

      We? Fuck you you never-Trump piece of fucking trash.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

        You either need to recalibrate your sarcasm meter, or exercise some basic reading comprehension.

      2. Jerryskids   4 years ago

        Fuck you, you Trump-worshiping slimy piece of shit, just because I don't worship any politician as my Lord and Savior doesn't make me a Never-Trumper. I've made it plain many times here that I consider Trump an absolute pig of a human being, thin-skinned, egotistical, a con-man, a fat-headed, loud-mouthed blowhard too stupid to realize how ignorant he is, somebody with no filter between his brain and his mouth so that any random thought that pops into his head falls right out of his face, incurious, lazy....Jesus Christ, I could go on and on about what a horrible person Trump is.

        But Trump does have one redeeming feature - he's about a million times better than any alternative candidate. So, no, I'm not a Never-Trumper, I'm a Better Trump Than Any Other Horrible Piece Of Shit-er. Now fuck off and go back to worshiping your tiny little political God that you rely on to protect and defend you because you're too fucking weak and pitiful to take care of yourself and leave me to trust in myself to take care of myself as any free human worthy of the name ought.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

          [slow clap]

          Democrats forced libertarians committed to casting a meaningful ballot to defend the position that the compulsive lying narcissist Donald Trump was the better candidate for POTUS. They can never be forgiven for that.

        2. Zeb   4 years ago

          Well said.

        3. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

          Fuckin' A, my dude. Outstanding.

          I am a Trump supporter, and you described a lot of the feelings I have for the guy.

    3. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   4 years ago

      It's like when the whole Cuties thing was happening and being anti-pedophilia was labeled as a conservative position.

      Happy to own that one, thanks.

  30. Sevo   4 years ago

    "...In any event, Trump leaves office with a 34 percent approval rating and a record-low average approval rating of 41 percent..."

    Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back,

  31. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   4 years ago

    The item of most concern is that with the Biden/Harris administration, the very last thing and worse case scenario is the current Woke Leftist Mob's authoritarian calls for the elimination of our free speech rights.

    With Biden/Harris inclined to run with instead of calming down these calls it portends a future that was inconceivable a decade ago where our freedoms are severely limited and there are punishments for unauthorized expression and potentially thought crime.

  32. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

    With Americans journalists and no one else still reeling from the January 6 Capitol riot

    There you go

    1. Sevo   4 years ago

      Well, to be fair, its pretty certain Pelosi still has the vapors over someone sitting in her chair!
      I mean the HORROR of it!

      1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        I feel quite certain we bought her a new chair.

  33. Sevo   4 years ago

    "...War on Domestic Terror."

    Somebody can't spell "protest".

    1. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

      This will create more Gov jobs than the GND.

  34. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

    Whether it might include big-name whistleblowers (like Chelsea Manning, Reality Winner, and Julian Assange) or just more of the president's crook friends and allies is anybody's guess.

    Assange - yes
    Winner - sure
    Manning - NO

    1. OneSimpleLesson   4 years ago

      PLEASE let him pardon Snowden. That would be amazing.

      Assange is good, but it would be seen by many as being totally partisan.

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

        ENB didn't mention Snowden, but yes to him too. Same with the Silk Road guy, whose name escapes me at the moment.

        1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

          Ross albright

          1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

            Him. Or maybe just switch him out with Madeline Albright.

          2. Zeb   4 years ago

            Albricht? Something like that.

      2. Brett Bellmore   4 years ago

        I want him to pardon Bradley Manning instead of Chelsea. Can you imagine what fun that would be?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

      Obama already commuted Manning's sentence, so pardoning him wouldn't do anything other than clear those charges off his record.

      Someone that unstable should not be near ANYTHING requiring a security clearance, especially considering he released all that material to Assange in an emotional fit rather than as a carefully considered action. Someone like Manning would give Wikileaks the nuclear launch codes because the hot dog stand guy "misgendered" him one too many times.

  35. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

    "The internet protocol address it used is owned by DDos-Guard, which is controlled by two Russian men and provides services including protection from distributed denial of service attacks."

    And not one lefty will notice the irony of a russian private company being there to support the free speech of an american communication platform and its users.

    Crazy times.

  36. TJJ2000   4 years ago

    Biden, "We shall use left-wing military to terrorize right-wing protestors for breaking Capitol Doors."

    I wonder if the same would be said if the 10-unarmed people had knocked on the door first? Heck; maybe they were just knocking on the door really hard 🙂 ?

    1. Ron   4 years ago

      it was okay when protesters knocked on the doors of Republicans personal homes in teh middle of the night. at least the Republican protesters took their protest to a government building in daylight instead of scaring little ladies with kids in their homes

  37. CE   4 years ago

    The mostly peaceful protest at the Capitol was quickly labeled a riot, which was accurate (and overdue for such events), but then immediately stepped up to "violent insurrection" for calling for an audit of the election results. CNN even called it a "domestic terror attack".

  38. Eeyore   4 years ago

    Hurray for Biden. Spent the firest 40 years of his career making it easy to lock up black people for what they choose to put in their bodies. Spends the last fee years making it easy to lock up white people for who they associate with and what they say.

  39. Brian   4 years ago

    1/06: Never Forget!

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Say her name!

  40. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

    "Anytime when you have mutations that come up independently of each other in multiple places, it's really a sign," coronavirus researcher Vineet Menachery from the University of Texas told The Atlantic. And it's not a good sign.

    These balloonheads think we're actually capable of doing something that real, actual science has said for decades was impossible--develop a cure for the common cold, which is a highly mutable, ever-shifting organism.

    One doofus at Cambridge, Ravi Gupta, is actually calling for turning common cold vaccines into a full-scale industry. They don't want to admit that a billion-and-a-half year old organism might be smarter and more adaptable than they are.

    1. Zeb   4 years ago

      I'm pretty sure viruses aren't smart. But they sure are adaptable.

      One thing I find fascinating is how little we know about viruses and all sorts of aspects of biology. Experts like to pretend they know what's going on, but they don't. We don't know shit about how it all works really. It's amazing what people have figured out about biology, but I think it's still just scratching the surface.

      1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

        Science is always just scratching the surface. That is what is so funny about the people who worship science (used worship deliberately).

  41. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    wrote Washington Post columnist Max Boot on Twitter yesterday, continuing the melodrama by warning that, if not, "the terrorism we saw on Jan. 6 may be only the beginning, rather than the end, of the plot against America."

    So some hack at the washington post has completely redefined an unruly protest (or yes, even riot) as "terrorism".

    The press is the enemy of the people and it can't die fast enough.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

      One of the things that makes me better than these people is that I never once sought to define the BLM/Antifa riots (including the murderous ones) as "terrorism", because I have scruples, a moral compass and I believe that words mean things.

      1. Jeff L.   4 years ago

        Terrorism? Maybe not, though what would you call targeting police for violence / assassination? Insurrection, yes; I'm pretty sure forcibly commandeering your own mini-state counts as such (even if your mayor or governor is ok with it).

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

      Max Boot is a walking neocon war boner. The dude is literally not happy unless the US is waging a conflict with someone, somewhere.

  42. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

    This was LOL:

    Former NBA Star Stephen Jackson Reveals Kyrie Irving Purchased Home for Family of George Floyd

    “She’s getting so much love, from not just us, but from people all around the world who are showing support,” Jackson said. “I’m just continuing to do what I said I was going to do. I said I was going to be my brother’s keeper and take care of his daughter and make sure that her next days are her best days. I had a lot of my friends—Kyrie Irving bought them a house. Lil Wayne’s manager bought them a Mercedes-Benz. Barbra Streisand gave them stock in Disney.”

    These celebrities are taking better care of Floyd's offspring than Floyd ever bothered to do when he was alive.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

      Rest in power, George Floyd!

    2. A Cynical Asshole   4 years ago

      These celebrities are taking better care of Floyd’s offspring than Floyd ever bothered to do when he was alive.

      Dare I say it, their old man dying from a fentanyl overdose while in police custody might be the best thing that ever happened to them.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

        I love how this was posted in The Root, which is basically the black version of The Daily Stormer.

  43. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    VDH on the shifting narratives.

    1. Nail   4 years ago

      This is interesting so far. Getting harder to find a reasonable take on things.

  44. Cal Cetín   4 years ago

    '"Biden needs to reinvigorate the FCC to slow the lies and sedition from Fox and other right-wing broadcasters," wrote Washington Post columnist Max Boot on Twitter yesterday, continuing the melodrama by warning that, if not, "the terrorism we saw on Jan. 6 may be only the beginning, rather than the end, of the plot against America."'

    Envision a Max Boot stomping on your face forever.

  45. Jerry B.   4 years ago

    Interesting that, after a year including billions of dollars in property damage and thirty or so deaths caused by the Leftists, the Democrats are just now worried about domestic terrorism.

    1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

      Well, we've had race riots pretty regularly since the 20th century, but this is the first time the capitol was breached since 1812. Also, the capitol rioters have no legitimate complaint. They are motivated by flat out falsehoods, a fantasy. There is no reasoning with extremists who do not use rationality.

      Does that clear up the sudden attention to domestic terrorism?

      Now, should we all bookmark this page and come back for review when the next Tim McVeigh hits, and it turns out he was a 2020 election Truther?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

        Well, we’ve had race riots pretty regularly since the 20th century, but this is the first time the capitol was breached since 1812.

        Someone's already forgotten about the Kavanaugh hearings, I see. Not to mention the 1954 shooting by Puerto Rican nationalists in the actual chamber, and that little bombing that took place in 1983 by left-wing radicals.

        Don't cite history without knowing a little bit more about it yourself, because comparing what happened on the 6th to the British burning DC is like comparing the cutting of a tree branch to defoliating the entire forest.

        1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

          OK. We can caveat that this was the first time thousands of hostiles had breached the capitol since 1812.

          1. soldiermedic76   4 years ago

            If you have to add caveats you already admitted you were wrong.

            1. De Oppresso Liber   4 years ago

              ? "Admitting to"?

              We're having a conversation here, boy-o. If you want to play grab ass gotcha, then call up your sister.

            2. R Mac   4 years ago

              DOL doesn’t admit shit. It’s part of being a sociopath.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

            Thousands, as opposed to just a few?

            If only the British has just put their feet up on Henry Clay's desk instead of burning the place down.

            1. wreckinball   4 years ago

              Yea Viking man strolling around getting photo ops was almost the same as the British Army in 1812, wow!

  46. NoVaNick   4 years ago

    So Antifa of course will never be terrorists. Nor will Earth First, or anyone who has ever contributed to a dem candidate or cause. Time to write your checks or face water boarding.

  47. zombietimeshare   4 years ago

    "Officials have been looking at ways to shift government resources previously used for counterterrorism, to combating domestic terrorism.""

    Domestic terrorism defined as political opponents. 2021 starts with liberal fascism on full display.

  48. dan1650   4 years ago

    What I want to know is how is Biden going to handle the tens of thousands covid infected refugees heading to the US Southern border because all he promised them? Does he wish the Democrats had helped build the wall to help restrict them or is he still going to stop building and tear down what is there now? As the numbers surge Guatemala is failing to stop them. Mexico is moving troops to their southern border but these refugees are leaving countries where hurricanes decimated their homes and people are living in the streets and starving and shootings and violence is worse then any wars.
    Will Biden militarize our border to stop tens of thousands of infected refugees from pouring in and spreading out across our country? If they overrun the Mexican military troops and take the weapons this could get really bad. The fake news is ignoring it because they know Biden and the Democrats encouraged this.

  49. Apollonius   4 years ago

    I don't know anyone who is "reeling" from the protest on Jan 6, except media and Deep Staters (but that's redundant, isn't it?).

    Nobody else seems to care, which must really frustrate the people who keep telling is what we're supposed to think.

  50. Liberty Lover   4 years ago

    Goodbye, Trump. Hello, War On American Citizens.
    First amendment rights (censorship)
    Second amendment (attacks on the right to bear arms)
    Foreign invasion (open borders)
    Re-education camps
    Political Deprogramming
    Children stolen and indoctrinated.
    Poverty after paying taxes
    Hyper inflation
    What a great day for America!!!!

  51. khm001   4 years ago

    "There are a few things both Democrats and Republicans can almost always come together on, and limiting civil liberties in the name of national security is chief among them."

    Reason can go fuck itself with this bullshit lie. Democrats have zero, ZERO, interest in protecting any liberties for republicans and you guys cheer them on with your continued BS on Trump. Trump isn't, and never was, the problem. He merely exposed the problem. TDS is a hell of a thing and Reason has exposed itself for just how willing you guys are to throw reason out all together in favor of a politically driven, irrational narrative that doesn't fit any facts at all.

    You are one of the problems exposed. This article is a prime example of why. The above quote is a clear example of the lies you push to pretend you or democrats give two shits about the liberties of political opponents. All, ALL, republicans are right now being labelled as domestic terrorists, using the bullshit lie that there was some sort of insurrection on Jan 6 and that Trump incited it.

    Fuck you all.

  52. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

    Well, it's Ring Out The Old Hell and In With The Fresh Hell!

    Judging from the Inauguration Ceremony, these next 4 years will be like the "churchin' up" scene from The Blues Brothers.

    "DO YOU SEE THE LIGHT?"

    1. docduracoat   4 years ago

      I see two lights!

      1. docduracoat   4 years ago

        The party says there are 5 lights
        2 +2= 5
        You do not just have to admit there are five lights.
        You have to shout it out for all to hear that you believe the party’s lie

    2. mad.casual   4 years ago

      Judging from the Inauguration Ceremony, these next 4 years will be like the “churchin’ up” scene from The Blues Brothers.

      “DO YOU SEE THE LIGHT?”

      In the context of the entire rest of the movie too. They'll see the light while standing in the church and, as soon as they walk out, go back to smoking, drinking, lying, swearing, stealing, cheating, and destroying property like they were before (and worse) except now, it's OK because God told them to save an orphanage.

  53. Liberty Lover   4 years ago

    War on Domestic terror? LOL, war on dissent is more like it. Reason is still banging on Trump who is gone, but wait till they criticize Biden and are "platformed". Maybe Reason will get it then? Well maybe Reason doesn't have the guts to criticize Biden? Just another bunch of sycophants. I await serious Democratic and Biden criticisms by Reason.

  54. Its_Not_Inevitable   4 years ago

    "Contra Hawley's insistence that it was a First Amendment violation" And this guy's a Senator. Further proof that our elected officials have no idea what the Constitution says or means.

    1. Liberty Lover   4 years ago

      Those elected officials know what the Constitution and Bill or Rights say, but they don't care, they think they are above all that.

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