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Tennessee Can Enforce Ban on Abortion Based on Sex, Race, or Down Syndrome Status of Fetus

Plus: More losses for the Trump campaign, a win for cannabis delivery services, a ban on LGBTQ conversion therapy violates First Amendment rights, and more...


Tennessee can start enforcing a law that criminalizes abortions occurring for non-state-approved reasons. After a lower court temporarily blocked the full measure over the summer, a federal appeals court ruled on Friday that the state may go ahead with the part of the law banning abortion based on the sex or race of the fetus or its likelihood to have Down syndrome. Performing an abortion under these prohibited circumstances could lead to 15 years in jail and a $10,000 fine.

"Tennessee Republican Gov. Bill Lee enacted the so-called 'reason bans' earlier this year as part of a sweeping anti-abortion measure," notes the Associated Press. "The law gained national attention because it banned abortion as early as six weeks—making it one of the strictest in the country—but it included several other anti-abortion components."

A judge temporarily blocked enforcement of the law not long after it was signed in July.

The new 6th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling does not totally undo the lower court's decision. Tennessee is still barred from enforcing the general ban on abortion occurring once fetal cardiac activity can be detected. However, it may begin enforcing the race, sex, and Down syndrome part of the ban.

It's unlikely that the state will enforce it, or even that it can, however. As it stands, no one getting an abortion is required to provide a reason why and, even if it were necessary, women seeking abortions on unapproved grounds could simply say it was for another reason.

More than a dozen other states have similar laws on the books, and as far I know, there have been no attempts at enforcing them. What's more, there's no particular evidence that U.S. women are seeking sex-selective abortions or race-selective abortions at all, let alone in significant numbers.

Abortions based on Down syndrome status or other genetic abnormalities in a fetus may be more common, because some families feel financially or emotionally unable to care for a child with special needs. Regardless, these are exactly the kinds of private, personal, and heart-wrenching decisions that should be left to families and medical professionals, not subject to state approval.

"Immediately following the appeals court ruling," concerning Tennessee's ban, "the plaintiffs' attorneys filed a request in lower federal court for a temporary restraining order to block the reason bans once again, but this time argued the law illegally prohibits a patient from 'obtaining constitutionally protected pre-viability abortion care,'" reports A.P.


Conversion therapy for LGBT kids to be allowed again in Florida counties. Florida governments cannot ban counseling and other psychiatric programs aimed at changing people's sexuality or gender identity, according to a new ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit. The case we brought by two Florida therapists who argued that laws against conversion therapy in Palm Beach County and Boca Raton violated their First Amendment rights. In a 2-1 ruling, the appellate court agreed, declaring Florida's two laws banning the practice to be unconstitutional. Read more about the case—and why it could be headed to SCOTUS soon—here.


A win for cannabis delivery services in California. Last week, a judge "dismissed a lawsuit that sought to overturn a state rule allowing home deliveries statewide, even into communities that banned commercial marijuana sales," notes San Francisco's local CBS station. "The court challenge raised a fundamental question in the nation's largest legal pot market: Where can you buy it? The state earlier ruled a licensed delivery can be made into 'any jurisdiction' within California."


Disputed states to certify election results as Trump tries to keep up delusion that his case has a chance. The battleground states where the Trump campaign is challenging election results are all gearing up to certify the results—thereby officially cementing Joe Biden as the election winner. "Michigan and Pennsylvania are set to do so Monday, and Nevada will on Tuesday," notes NPR. "Arizona and Wisconsin have certification deadlines next week." Trump has continued to tweet about how he is the real winner and it's only a matter of time before the courts declare it so. But more and more Republicans are falling out of step with the president's propaganda as his conspiracy theory grows increasingly elaborate.


• A third COVID-19 vaccine is showing promising results.

• "The pandemic is increasing child sex trafficking," writes Michael Hobbes at HuffPost, "but not for the reasons you think."

• Nevada is among the latest states to institute new pandemic-related restrictions on dining, socializing, etc.

• Los Angeles is banning outdoor dining now.

• Canada's Supreme Court has ruled "that Ontario's sex-offender registry regime violates the constitutional rights of people found not criminally responsible for their actions by reason of mental disorder."

• Hong Kong pro-democracy activists Joshua Wong, Agnes Chow, and Ivan Lam have all been jailed.

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  1. Tennessee Can Enforce Ban on Abortion Based on Sex, Race, or Down Syndrome Status of Fetus

    When creating protected classes comes back to bite you?

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    3. Am I still allowed to abort based on nationality?

      1. From the article:

        “It’s unlikely that the state will enforce it, or even that it can, however. As it stands, no one getting an abortion is required to provide a reason why and, even if it were necessary, women seeking abortions on unapproved grounds could simply say it was for another reason.”

        When the day comes that you DO have to provide a reason why, this will become HUGELY dysgenic! People smart enough to LIE about WHY they want to abort, will be allowed to abort genetic defectives, while those TOO STUPID TO LIE will be FORCED to give birth! So I’m glad that there’s a HUGE loophole… For now!

        1. I wish they’d have allowed me to abort my retarded child.
          Now I’m stuck looking after a spastic freakshow who thinks the cat’s box is a buffet, and chocolate raisins can be found under rabbit hutches.

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        2. I’m reminded of the original Roe Vs Wade trial. On one interview, Roe herself said that one of her friends told her “say you were raped by a black man, and you’ll get your abortion”. She refused to lie, and she was denied.

      2. Maybe. But you can’t reject sexual advances based on nationality.

        Open borders means open panties, baby!

        1. “Sexual advances” meaning rape in this context? I believe you are allowed to resist rape in all circumstances.

          1. every inmate on line 2 …

          2. Peons, and any mostly-hypothetical libertarian-leaning politicians, aren’t allowed to do ANYTHING here, without witnessed and notarized consent! In triplicate!

            If you are a rich Republican politician, you may pussy-grab at will!

            If you are a Democrat politician, you restricted to hair-smelling only!

            1. Re: Democrats…

              You did not specify location of said hair.


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          3. Nope. Open borders (and mandatory sharing of all personal property) means that rape no longer exists, for countries or people.

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    4. I don’t understand the obsession with not letting progs abort their offspring. If anything we should be encouraging it.

      1. Progressivism breeds in university, that’s where the abortions should be occurring.

        1. The HandMaid’s Retelling.

    5. I get paid over $190 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I’d be able to do it but my best friend earns over 15k a month doing this and she convinced me to try………EARN DOLLARS.

    6. “because some families feel financially or emotionally unable to care for a child with special needs. Regardless, these are exactly the kinds of private, personal, and heart-wrenching decisions that should be left to families and medical professionals, not subject to state approval.”

      So you’re saying that a state can’t possibly have any legitimate interest in protecting the rights of unborn babies — who are considered by a large portion of citizens in that state to have the same rights as any other baby and are indisputably, genetically distinct, individual human beings — even under extraordinarily narrow circumstances?

  2. Disputed states to certify election results as Trump tries to keep up delusion that his case has a chance.

    When will he get it through his thick skull that he never should have been allowed to be president in the first place.

    1. I know. The establishment media was pretty clear on that, but those ignorant proles kept ignoring them.

    2. This but unironically.

      1. TOP MEN only! says the authoritarian lefty.

        1. Not top men, just men who abstain from lobbying our existential enemy for electoral help would be nice.

          1. “Not top men, just top McCarthyites”

          2. The Cold War called, it wants its foreign policy back.

            1. The jerk store called…

          3. Joe “The Manchurian Candidate If There Ever Was One” Biden?

            I’m still not convinced the first 30 min. of Biden’s day isn’t spent brainwashing him to some semblance of reality.

            And I think you’ll agree that Trump displays no signs of similar brainwashing.


    This sinister “Great Reset” stuff suggests we really might be approaching the “end of history” this time – not with the worldwide acceptance of classical liberalism, but with its decisive rejection in favor of “soft” and “limited” authoritarianism.
    The new consensus spreading among Western political elites is that some issues must be taken off the table, placed beyond the reach of voters, “settled” – and thus enforced – by power that cannot be subordinated to democracy.
    In other words, the list of things “free people” don’t get to vote against or refuse to accept grows longer. The size and power of centralized government swells to a scale undreamed-of by the founders of a constitutional republic. Very little of it can be voted out of office.
    This is all supposedly justified in the name of protecting what remains of democracy, and sanding the rough edges off of capitalism. The elites tell themselves they aren’t really authoritarians – they’re just helping “true” liberty flourish by limiting and nourishing it.
    The people cannot be allowed to make choices that would interfere with the government-provided “rights” of others – in other words, the socialized goods and services everyone is “entitled” to. People must be made “free” from want, from insult, even from the need to work.
    Whatever remains of free society after those authoritarian boundaries are drawn will become the new playground sandbox of liberty – smaller, but safer and more comfortable. All that is not steel will be velvet. All that is not demanded will be provided.
    The elite will find just the right amount of authoritarian control to protect The People. You’ll still be allowed to own some capital, provided you use it the “right” way. You can be ambitious, but not greedy. You can speak sort-of freely, but only about approved topics.
    This is now the great illusion of the 21st Century, brought into focus by the coronavirus pandemic, which will be employed to kill classical liberalism by supposedly “proving” that the most important challenges can only be tackled with authoritarian control.
    The delusion will be that authoritarianism can be tamed and harnessed to protect “free” societies. Authoritarianism will become the sleek scientific, industrial, and moral engine that pulls free people into the new century and beyond.
    The political class will tell you this is a modest and necessary imposition on liberty. They’re just putting a few dangerous things where your adorable childlike hands can’t reach them. They’re just requiring you to accept a few more points of “consensus.”
    The list of commands you cannot refuse will get just a LITTLE longer, as will the list of questions you are not allowed to ask, the words you’re not allowed to use, the things you cannot buy or sell, the alternatives you are not permitted to seek.
    Very Smart People of unimpeachable moral authority and unquestionable wisdom will draw some heavy lines. You will be permitted to color within them as you wish, using the acceptable colors provided to you. You won’t be allowed to be dangerous or unpredictable any more.
    In every respect, it’s the end of classical liberalism – the end of universal freedoms and inalienable rights, of absolute limits on political control. Constitutional limits on what you can vote FOR will be replaced by lists of what you aren’t allowed to vote AGAINST.
    You may get to elect some of the deciders, but you won’t be making the big decisions, and you will not be allowed to reject the “consensus.” When capitalism is dominated by politics, risk is replaced by consensus, and reward by entitlement. It’s “safer,” and smaller.

    1. Hope that great spewing of paranoia was therapeutic.

    2. Condensed version: the progressives are going to win.

      1. And will dictate every aspect of your life

    1. Some real Americans with independent thought still exist as they kick the government out for illegal and unwarranted inspections for covid.

      1. That was awesome. Saw it over the weekend.

      2. Obeise Sheriff telling the owner it for your own health look in a mirror maybe join a gym

        1. I’d lay even money that Mrs. Public Health Official has at least 2 comorbities as well.

          DPH should have fitness requirements beyond lifting a clipboard.

      3. Good on these guys. We’re gonna need a lot more to shut this shit down.

      4. “Let me step over the bodies dead from obesity, cancer, depression, addiction, not to mention look past all the kids who are being hampered from socializing and basic learning to address the public health issue that *you* couple dozen people aren’t wearing masks.”

        Maybe it’s just my lens, but I think this is a point that gets skipped over by or fails to be presented to lots of pro-mask people. Making sure every kid learns good nutrition is hard, you can’t just show up with two goons and let the goons handle it. Making sure people don’t suffer depression and OD in their home is hard, you can’t just show up with two goons to every depressed person’s house and let the goons handle it. If you’re really advancing public health, you can’t just choose the two-goon option because it’s easier.

        Now is when these Public Health Officials should be working harder than ever (assuming they should have a job at all) to make sure people are staying active, socializing well enough to avoid depression, and not turning to destructive vices while locked in isolation. Instead, they’re taking a pass in favor of telling other agencies to do a small sliver of public health extra hard on their behalf.

    2. The WHO still wants you in masks and locked down even with a vaccine. Because fuck science. This is about control.

      1. Yeh. That’s not good.

    3. Occam’s Razor. On two fronts we know masks don’t work. First, the large body of RCT evidence going back to 1920. Tired of writing this. Second, it’s EASILY observable. Get off your lazy asses and go look at the graphs of all jurisdictions from the point of mandates. Infection rates tend to SHOOT UP.

      Fucken bozos.

      And it wouldn’t surprise me now in colder climates we’ll start to see some bacterial diseases rise including bacterial pneumonia. Then all the incompetent criminal douche bags and whores running the show will all scratch each other’s balls and pussies asking, ‘What for big boo-boo?’ Maybe you should wear TWO masks! And some saran wrap!

      I don’t think people grasp just how perniciously anti-human rooted in pseudo-science masks really are.

      1. Infection rates tend to SHOOT UP.

        Looks more like no effect to me. If you look at various contries, some shoot up right after mask mandates. Some decline a lot. Some stay flat for a long time. I think the masks do nothing significant and the ups and downs were going to happen when they happened no matter what anyone did.

      2. Remember when Fauci pleaded with people DON’T WEAR MASKS THEY DON’T DO SHIT.

        I remember those early days of last year…but Fauci forgot what he said.

    4. More studies that show Masks do not reduce the spread of respiratory viruses.

      1. Easy guys. As stupid and annoying as masks are, if the sheeple ever come around to believing that masks don’t work, they might demand some new pandemic safety theater that could be much worse.

        1. Appeasement doesn’t work

          1. Nor does arguing with mules (or sheep).

        2. Placebo vaccine delivered via water cannon at mostly peaceful gathering? And, it could double as a great way to put out the fires the mostly peaceful arsonists start while being mostly peaceful and thoughtfully & respectfully destroying other peoples’ livelihoods.

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      2. That’s not what those studies shows, or even what the article makes an argument for, what so ever. Dunning-Kruger at work once again.

        But you got your Trumpist source to tell you trumpist things. So good on you. One more day passes that Jesse does not have to confront reality.

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    5. The MIT study is being updated because there are new conditions.

      “The authors have withdrawn this manuscript because there are increased rates of SARS-CoV-2 cases in the areas that we originally analyzed in this study,” the updated abstract of the study titled “Decrease in Hospitalizations for COVID-19 after Mask Mandates in 1083 U.S. Counties” now reads. “New analyses in the context of the third surge in the United States are therefore needed and will be undertaken directly in conjunction with the creators of the publicly-available databases on cases, hospitalizations, testing rates. Etc.”

      The update adds: “We will be performing this in conjunction with machine learning experts at UCSF. Therefore, the authors do not wish this work to be cited as reference for the project. We hope to have an updated analysis using data from the 2nd and now 3rd wave of SARS-CoV-2 in this country soon. If you have any questions, please contact the corresponding author.”

      I’m sure you will follow up on this when they update the study. Right?

      1. We will be performing this in conjunction with machine learning experts at UCSF.

        More like: our models failed, so we have to try again.

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  4. A third COVID-19 vaccine is showing promising results.

    Third prize is you’re infected.

    1. Preparing for the third wave.

    2. Vaccines are for coofers.

      A. Always
      B. Be
      C. Coughing
      Always Be Coughing.

  5. Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter

    1. Beware trans ideas in sheep’s clothing
      Scottish schoolchildren are being told that a wolf really can self-identify as a sheep.

      Four- and five-year-olds in Scotland are now being taught that some sheep growl. This message was delivered in award-winning author Morag Hood’s Brenda is a Sheep, a brightly illustrated book being given to Primary One (reception class) schoolchildren courtesy of the Scottish Book Trust, and conveniently in time for Transgender Week of Visibility.

      The story centres on Brenda, a wolf who identifies as a sheep. With grey fur and pointy teeth, Brenda has some problems fitting in. Readers are invited to wonder if Brenda might have nefarious motives for wanting to get into the sheep pen, particularly when she starts perfecting her mint-sauce recipe.

      Described by publishers Pan MacMillan as a ‘mischievous and hilarious story about being accepted’, by the end of the book Brenda is welcomed into the warm and woolly ovine community and they all live happily ever after.

      The political motive is about as clear as the claws on Little Red Ridinghood’s grandmother. It is a book about how it is wrong to be suspicious of men who identify as transgender women and demand access to women’s spaces. The book teaches children not to trust their instincts, nor to question the motives that people might have for pretending to be something they are clearly not.

      1. They are literally parodying themselves

        1. How will the Brits respond to the next Hitler?

          1. I’m sure the first step will be asking for preferred pronouns.

      2. The Fabian Society initially used a wolf in sheep’s clothing as its emblem, until they realized their motives were being a bit too obvious. Nice to see that Britbong leftism hasn’t really changed all that much in 150 years.

      3. I think they’re being meta. Isn’t that basically what being a leftist is? A wolf identifying as a sheep?

        1. It’s a wolf telling the sheep that he’s doing it for their own good. Like Newsom and California.

    2. This is what happens when you superficially suppress Darwin’s natural selection. We’ve pandered to the lowest common denominator so much we literally have a case of The Joker leading Arkham into Gotham.

      FFS, PA’s head doctor is Rachel Levine. A man pretending to be a woman. I call it mental illness.

      1. “We shall soon be in a world in which a man may be howled down for saying that two and two make four, in which people will persecute the heresy of calling a triangle a three-sided figure, and hang a man for maddening a mob with the news that grass is green.”
        …and for calling a man in a skirt a man.

    3. That’s a MAN, baby!

  6. “The pandemic is increasing child sex trafficking,” writes Michael Hobbes at HuffPost, “but not for the reasons you think.”

    They just can’t help the clickbait headlines.

    1. #4 will surprise you!

    2. I assumed the increase in child sex trafficking had something to do with white supremacy, transphobia, and Trump’s hair.

      1. Close. Trans supremacy and Trump hair phobia.

    3. I cannot think of any reasons. What should I do?

    4. First using Vox as a source, now HuffPo? Roundup has really hit the shitter for quality, given the dependence on social media and shit partisan ‘news’ outlets for stories.

      1. It’s not like the New York Times or the WaPo are exactly beacons of truth anymore, either.

    5. Is one of the reason that parents simply want the kids out of the house for awhile and somebody has to bring in a paycheck?

      Or is it that the kids are the most immune to covid and are the only ones traveling?

  7. They named their sham election system “Dominion” and Reason is stumping for its integrity

    1. So much mustache-twisting smdh

      1. “WoRdS dOn’T hAvE mEaNiNgS!”

        1. I just think it’s fucked up that Dominion was cleverly telegraphing their game plan and nobody picked up on it until now. I mean, it was right in front of our faces!

    2. To be honest, I assumed it was a company based out of Virginia when I first heard the name.

    3. You mean the voting system for which no evidence of fraud has been presented.

      1. Sure, npc, whatever your masters say.

        1. That’s what the courts say, genius.

          1. ooooh lower level judges … peligro!

            1. The cases are magically going to become more solidly presented as they go to higher courts — if they go to higher courts?


    Mr. Bancel, with a far smaller company, made the opposite bet, embracing the assistance of a government led by a science-denying president. Moderna got nearly $2.5 billion to develop, manufacture and sell its vaccine to the federal government and teamed up with the National Institutes of Health on the scientific work, a highly successful partnership that managed to sidestep the political meddling by Mr. Trump and his aides that had bedeviled other efforts to confront the virus.

    1. In what way did Trump bedevil any efforts to produce a vaccine?

      1. In ways the NYT said so 🙂

  9. A list of actual voting issues still unresolved the general media ignores as it continues to try to only pay attention to the most unreasonable allegations.

    1. Nothing to see here! Move along citizen!

    2. Reminder of the voting norms that somehow swept Biden into office:

      Some of them are quite “believable”:

      1. No incumbent president in nearly a century and a half has gained votes in a re-election campaign and still lost.
      2. Biden is on his way to winning the White House after having lost almost every historic bellwether county across the country.
      3. Baris noted a statistical oddity from 2020’s election returns: “Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”
      4. Randy DeSoto noted in The Western Journal that “Donald Trump was pretty much the only incumbent president in U.S. history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives.”

      1. There was massive fraud. Come on. Open secret. The DNC played this well.

        People who think there wasn’t probably would have been the sort of person who didn’t think Al Capone was a murdering mobster.

        1. You know Capone went to jail for tax evasion, nobody ever proved he had any connection to organized crime whatsoever, and frankly I take umbrage at your insinuation that he was anything other than a fine, upstanding member of the Legitimate Businessman Community.

          1. He built soup kitchens, he was a saint!

        2. The DNC played this well.

          More that they relied on people like ENB a Sullum, to ignore and cherrypick out a false narrative.
          They are now bald-faced propagandists rather than journalists of any sort.

          From martial law lockdowns, to election fraud and a coup, to rehabilitating cannibalism, to the double suicides of free speech and ethical journalism, 2020 really has become a progressives paradise.

          1. They went all in, assuming we don’t have the balls to do what’s needed.
            So far they’ve been correct.

            1. All-talk right-wing pansies may be my favorite culture war casualties to stomp into political and cultural irrelevance in modern America.

              You get to whine about it all day, Nardz, but you will comply. Until replacement.

              1. “pansies”

                So, the rev, with all his railing against homophobia, was always a closet homophobe.

        3. “When Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud—because there are legal consequences for lying to judges.”

        4. There was massive fraud. Come on. Open secret. The DNC played this well.

          Actually, I think they played this poorly. They assumed that Biden was gonna win big, so they didn’t do anything until it was clear that Trump had won. Then they stopped the count in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania supposedly until the following morning. Then a couple hours later, while they were supposedly asleep, they added hundreds of thousands of votes to the totals, every single one of which was for Biden. Not a single vote for Trump or any other candidate.

          I suspect that right now, they’re looking at each other, amazed that they’re getting away with fraud this blatant.

      2. Trump did better, percentage wise, than Clinton in Philadelphia. It was PA’s suburbs where Biden did vastly better than Clinton.

      3. Y’all are morons. Just dumb. Sad.

        1. Says the guy who thinks socialism will work the next time.

        2. Stunning rebuttal. And, honestly, if you are not from the deep South, stop using ‘y’all,’ it doesn’t belong to shitheel progressives from the cities.

          1. To be fair, pretty much every progressive that comments here has turned out to be a hicklib, so Pod being one as well wouldn’t be a surprise.

            1. From Strazele, to raspberrydinners, to Ferrous, it’s all just Jeff’s sockpuppets all the way down.

          2. Y’all should be the standard English second person plural.

      4. As to #4, “pretty much” doesn’t include Benjamin Harrison, who managed this in 1892. Note that Harrison also won the previous election while losing the popular vote. (By the way, Gerald Ford only lost one additional House seat in 1976. That was possibly because the Democrats outnumbered Republicans 2 -1. Thank you, Watergate.

      5. Stopped peddling your “Brenfords Law” talking point, have you?

        1. Why?

          1. Because others pointed out that (a) it is called Benford’s Law, (b) it doesn’t apply well to precinct-level election results. Even JesseAz gets tired of repeating talking points where he is going to be answered with clear reasoning that he is wrong.

            1. The statement that Benford’s Law magically doesn’t apply well to precinct-level election results, is horseshit. Of course it can, it’s rediculous to suppose that the numbers are to small to note patterns particularly when there are thousands of precincts.

              1. I was going to repeat the arguments, but I know you’ve seen them before. Which makes what you just wrote willfully stupid.

      6. “Baris noted a statistical oddity from 2020’s election returns: “Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.””

        This is absolutely untrue. This is why I cannot trust Right leaning outlets. They just repeat complete bullshit.

        Votes in Orange County, CA:
        Clinton (2016): 609,961
        Biden (2020): 813,000

        Votes in Los Angeles, CA:
        Clinton: 1,596,000
        Biden: 3,020,000

        Denver, CO:
        Clinton: 244,551
        Biden: 313,300

        Miami-Dade, FL:
        Clinton: 624,000
        Bideon: 617,000

        Harris County, TX:
        Clinton: 706,471
        Biden: 918,193

        Dallas County, TX:
        Clinton: 458,845
        Biden: 599,000

        That was 5 minutes of checking county sites. These right wing sites are just making shit up and telling you what you want to hear.

        1. Going by your figures, in just four years Biden doubled the number of votes in Los Angeles, and got 25% more in Orange County, Harris County, Dallas County and Denver.

          You don’t find that suspicious?
          Do you think that Biden, who hid in his basement for most of the campaign, was that much better of a campaigner than Hillary, that would account for such an incredible surge in support?

          1. “You don’t find that suspicious?
            Do you think that Biden, who hid in his basement for most of the campaign, was that much better of a campaigner than Hillary, that would account for such an incredible surge in support?”

            Before I answer that, are you going to at least admit that the point being parroted by Barris was wrong? I mean they said “every urban center” around the country underperformed. This was supposed to be evidence of a statistical anomaly. And it was flat out bullshit.

            And yet, rather than acknowledge that your sources are peddling bullshit, you just move on to insisting that by falsifying the evidence provided to support fraud, I have actually proven that there was fraud. You have created a scenario where no matter what evidence is presented, it was obviously fraud. Because the only scenario that makes sense in your head is Trump winning.

            To your questions, though, it is not odd to me. The 2016 election had a 59% turnout. This election had a ~70% turnout. You are absolutely right that Biden is an un-interesting candidate. He is a candidate that very few people were willing to drive to the polls for. Which is why the Democrats spent the last 6 months a) getting people to vote AGAINST Trump and b) making it so that you DON’T have to drive to the polls- you just need to mail a ballot.

            1. Umm, I’m not JesseAz, and I was commenting on what you posted. Not on his argument.

              And no.
              I find it impossible to believe that a drive to get people to mail their votes would account for that kind of increase. Maybe 5% or even as high as 10% (which would be enough to tip most elections), but a 25% to 50% increase is beyond ridiculous.

              1. of course it is.

              2. “Umm, I’m not JesseAz, and I was commenting on what you posted. Not on his argument.”

                I know it is late in the day, but for the record, how is this an excuse? The post was (paraphrased) “We should be suspicious because Biden underperformed in every urban center around the country except the Swing States where he over performed.”

                I contradicted that with evidence, showing that in fact Biden over performed in several major urban centers around the country.

                Your response was, “Biden’s over-performance in counties around the country is totally suspect.”

                You are literally making the argument that my evidence disputing that Biden stole the election is evidence that Biden stole the election. You may not have been the one making the argument in the first place, but I find it pretty much just as disingenuous. You never argued “Hey, JesseAZ, you are wrong- the fact is Biden overperforming in these specific states is NOT evidence of fraud.” No, you were first to the scene insisting that disputing that evidence was ALSO evidence of fraud.

                Look, man, I wish Biden weren’t going to be president next year. The country literally elected a senile drool cup for president in order to get rid of Trump. But to ape the left’s tactics in raising every little wisp of evidence to the level of “They stole the election!!!111!111!” is to cede a high ground that the right cannot afford to cede.

                Consider for a moment that Greenwald has been getting all sorts of shit from the left because he is not accepting the bullshit from their establishment types and grifters. There needs to be a similar impulse from the right. Trump and his hangers on are absolutely politicians and grifters. I think they did much good and some bad. But you cannot let the grifters fleece the constituency with pipe dreams meant to drum up donations. To do so is to be as bad as the NYT for the past 5 years.

          2. Move the goalposts faster!

            1. Oh FFS, how was I moving goalposts you moron. I’m not Jesse and I was commenting on Overt’s figures.

              You really are a moron.

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    3. Jesse is going full on zombie Chavez stole the election.

      You hate to see it.

  10. Los Angeles is banning outdoor dining now.

    So celebrate that Biden victory eating a microwave burrito standing over your sink.

    1. Except it won’t be hot because the electricity is shut off.

      1. And gas stoves are illegal now, so . . .

      2. At least it will be thawed.

    2. Wooo we’re popping champagne! A return to decency!


      Whaddya mean I can’t go get some sushi! I thought that was an old wive’s tale! WHAT?!? I ain’t putting no needle in my arm!

    3. That burrito better not be culturally appropriated.

      1. But who wants to eat English food?

      2. every burrito is culturally appropriated

      3. Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that even He would have to change His name’s pronunciation to Jesús?

  11. Election Fraud Problems Are A Threat To Our Country — And Too Important To Be Left To Conspiracy Theorists

    Trump win in Trump vs Biden is gonna be funny.

    There is a reason that Clarence Thomas has not announced retirement once the media declared Biden the “winner”.

    1. I get the feeling that you won’t be opening the champagne on December 14 when the real election is held.

      1. The SCOTUS stepped in on December 12, 2000 in Bush vs Biden.

        I am willing to wait because there are clear violations of Article I & II where only state legislatures can change election laws. Not Democrat Governors.

        Millions of mail-in ballots are getting tossed.

    2. Trump Lawyers: Pennsylvania Lawsuit Dismissal Moves Us Closer to Supreme Court

      Trump 2020 attorneys former Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said in a statement:

      Today’s decision turns out to help us in our strategy to get expeditiously to the U.S. Supreme Court. Although we fully disagree with this opinion, we’re thankful to the Obama-appointed judge for making this anticipated decision quickly, rather than simply trying to run out the clock.

      The lawsuit argued that the legal guarantee of “equal protection under the law” was violated after counties where voters were primarily Democrats took different approaches than counties where voters were primarily Republicans to help voters with problems with their mail-in ballots.

      U.S. Middle District Judge Matthew Brann dismissed the suit on Saturday “with prejudice,” issuing a stinging rebuke to the campaign for trying to “disenfranchise almost seven million voters.” He wrote.

      Should have voted in person like a normal American. Millions of mail-in ballots are getting tossed.

      1. How are your several armored personnel carriers running, since we are talking about your delusions?

    3. Still, you may want to prepare your “TRUMP 2024!!!” ASCII art. You know, just in case.

  12. New York City’s 2018 Flu Was a Near-Death Experience for Its Medical System

    Hospital beds lining hallways, protective gear running out, patients surging into emergency departments:

    Two years before the novel coronavirus upended life as we’ve known it, officials at NYC Health+Hospitals Corporation were worried enough after a particularly nasty flu season to call Johns Hopkins for help.

    “Our flu season is really terrible. We’re having a hard time with our facilities,” Jennifer B. Nuzzo, senior scholar of the Center for Health Security, recalled hearing in a phone call from Dr. Syra Madad, senior director of the special pathogens program office at NYC H+H, which oversees New York City’s public hospital system, the largest in the nation. Madad was concerned about the number of patients showing up in hospital emergency departments, and the stress on the public hospital system. Would the Center for Health Security help monitor what was happening?

  13. Hong Kong pro-democracy activists Joshua Wong, Agnes Chow, and Ivan Lam have all been jailed.

    Time for our noble professional athletes to take a knee for another cause.

    1. The NBA are all commies, they support the arrests of those “troublemakers.”

      1. Black on the outside, Red on the inside. We need a metaphor for that.

    2. Now is still not the time.

  14. 5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms

    Lefties are so close, just they were with the Trump coup of 2016.

    1. You have successfully argued 2020 was abnormal. Congratulations!

  15. Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests “Unreliable” & Quarantines “Unlawful”

    Most importantly, the judges ruled that a single positive PCR test cannot be used as an effective diagnosis of infection.

    The specifics of the case concern four tourists entering the country from Germany – all of whom are anonymous in the transcript of the case – who were quarantined by the regional health authority. Of the four, only one had tested positive for the virus, whilst the other three were deemed simply of “high infection risk” based on proximity to the positive individual. All four had, in the previous 72 hours, tested negative for the virus before departing from Germany.

    In their ruling, judges Margarida Ramos de Almeida and Ana Paramés referred to several scientific studies.

    Most notably this study by Jaafar et al., which found that – when running PCR tests with 35 cycles or more – the accuracy dropped to 3%, meaning up to 97% of positive results could be false positives.

    The ruling goes on to conclude that, based on the science they read, any PCR test using over 25 cycles is totally unreliable.

    Governments and private labs have been very tight-lipped about the exact number of cycles they run when PCR testing, but it is known to sometimes be as high as 45. Even fearmonger-in-chief Anthony Fauci has publicly stated anything over 35 is totally unusable.

    1. Test EVERYONE in the UK for coronavirus once a month to make a ‘freedom pass’ system where people with negative results can live normal lives, says ex-Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt

      1. you’re sounding more and more like Bailey.

      2. Once a month testing is about as good as drinking vodka to ward off infection, without the benefits.

    2. Most notably this study by Jaafar et al., which found that – when running PCR tests with 35 cycles or more – the accuracy dropped to 3%, meaning up to 97% of positive results could be false positives.

      The ruling goes on to conclude that, based on the science they read, any PCR test using over 25 cycles is totally unreliable.

      And, without reading any of the studies and going solely on personal experience, the detection limits/false negative rate of 25-cycle tests is similarly/analogously abysmal. If you test positive after 25 cycles, your congestion and hacking cough is providing more than enough material for the thermocycler to amplify.

  16. The state earlier ruled a licensed delivery can be made into ‘any jurisdiction’ within California.

    Ha! Local police are just going to have to shop around the vehicle code to find something else.

  17. Are Covid Patients Gasping ‘It Isn’t Real’ As They Die?
    An ER nurse’s anecdote of deranged denialism went viral. But when the media caught wind of the story, reporters didn’t do their jobs.

    But other nurses who work in similar settings say they’ve seen nothing of the kind.

    I called a number of hospitals in the same part of South Dakota to ask emergency room nurses if they’d noticed the same, disturbing phenomenon. At Avera Weskota Memorial Hospital, about 20 minutes from Doering’s hometown of Woonsocket, an ER nurse told me, “I have not had that experience here.” At my request, Kim Rieger, the VP for communications and marketing at Huron Regional Medical Center, one of the four medical facilities where Doering works, spoke with several nurses at Huron to get their reactions to the CNN interview. None said they’d interacted with Covid patients who denied having the disease. “Most patients are grateful, and thankful for our help,” one told her. “I have not experienced this, nor have I been told of this experience, ever,” another said.

    1. I don’t think I’ve encountered anyone who thinks the virus isn’t real. But the press seem to be determined to paint those opposing the authoritarian policies enacted in response as “virus deniers” when what they really question is the morality and effectiveness of the current policies.
      I have never seen so many things properly described as “Orwellian” happen so quickly.

      1. “Virus denier” is just another pejorative of the I Fucking Love Science! tards who never bother questioning what Science! tells them.

        1. You don’t question Science! You BELIEVE Science!

      2. The irony is this is the same tact the climate alarmists have taken

      3. It’s almost like The Press has an agenda, and isn’t trustworthy

    2. That bitch’s story reeked of shitthatdidnthappen. Amazing what you can find out when you actually start doing real, actual journalism instead of parroting your colleagues on Twitter.

      I suppose this isn’t a coincidence with the media gaslighting about how the Dakotas are suddenly ground zero for the coof, despite the MASSIVE spikes in states where they’ve had mask mandates and restrictions on businesses for months. I mentioned before that an ex-buddy of mine was crowing about that stupid USA Today article a few days ago, gurgling about how glad he was to live in Minnesota where they supposedly follow Science!-based recommendations.

      Fast forward to today, and Minnesota not only had worse case growth than the Dakotas, now Walz is shutting shit down for a month, which is likely going to assrape the state’s small business community and state/local coffers into oblivion. I feel bad for the red voting counties, of course, because they didn’t vote for this shit, but not as much for the battered-wife syndrome suffering blue county residents. My ex-buddy and his fellow Democrats are getting exactly what they deserve.

    3. Remember during the late-Bush/early-Obama era when homosexuals were being denied entry to operating rooms because doctors and nurses were widely and here-to-for unkown closeted bigots? Suddenly everybody everywhere had a gay uncle or lesbian aunt who was being denied their right to scrub in on their SO’s life-saving surgery?

      I don’t either, but this reminds me of that.

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    You do not need permission from the government to celebrate a holiday. This is America. We are Americans. That’s really the only argument we should need to make.

  20. In the future, everyone will need state approval every 15 minutes.

    1. “Your call is important to us. Approval officials are helping other citizens. Your expected wait time is…4…hours.”

  21. NBC, 2019:

    Chinese parts, hidden ownership, growing scrutiny: Inside America’s biggest maker of voting machines
    Scrutiny of the U.S. election system, spurred by Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, has put Election Systems & Software in the political spotlight.

    The nondescript name and building match the relative anonymity of the company, more commonly known as ES&S, which has operated in obscurity for years despite its central role in U.S. elections. Nearly half of all Americans who vote in the 2020 election will use one of its devices.

    That’s starting to change. A new level of scrutiny of the election system, spurred by Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, has put ES&S in the political spotlight. The source of the nation’s voting machines has become an urgent issue because of real fears that hackers, whether foreign or domestic, might tamper with the mechanics of the voting system.

    That has led to calls for ES&S and its competitors, Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems and Austin, Texas-based Hart Intercivic, to reveal details about their ownership and the origins of the parts, some of which come from China, that make up their machines.

    But ES&S still faces questions about the company’s supply chain and the identities of its investors, although it has said it is entirely owned by Americans. And the results of its government penetration tests, in which authorized hackers try to break in so vulnerabilities can be identified and fixed, have yet to be revealed.

    1. But Mah Private Companize:

      FBI warning played a role in Facebook downplaying NY Post report, Zuckerberg says

      Facebook Inc Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg said on Wednesday that a warning from the FBI on hack-and-leak operations before the Nov. 3 presidential election played a role in its decision to limit the reach of stories from the New York Post that made claims about Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son.

      Zuckerberg said it had seen attempts by Russia, Iran and China to run disinformation campaigns. “One of the threats that the FBI has alerted our companies … to was the possibility of a hack and leak operation in the days or weeks leading up to this election,” he said.

      “So you had both public testimony from from the FBI, (inaudible) in private meetings alerts that were given to at least our company, I assume the others as well, that suggested that we be on high alert and sensitivity that if a trove of documents appeared that that we should view that with suspicion that it might be part of a foreign manipulation attempt,” he told lawmakers.

      1. teh same FBI that illegally spied on a person running for president and actually tried to bait them into illegal activity with their spys. Trump for all his faults I’m amazed he didn’t fall for the plot

      2. Zuckerberg said it had seen attempts by Russia, Iran and China to run disinformation campaigns.

        And just those 3, no one else.

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    2. The irony is that there’s been plenty of coverage surrounding the insecurity of computer voting machines, going back to Diebold after Kerry lost Ohio in 2004. Hell, Dominion was getting coverage on this as recently as 2019, when they and ES&S were getting grilled on it by four Democratic senators.

      Suddenly, when the outcome turned out massively in their favor, it’s “whoa, move along, nothing to see here, most secure election in the country’s history!” I guess they figured out over the last year that it didn’t matter if the system was secure or not, what mattered is if their apparatchiks could manipulate those systems to get the outcomes they wanted.

      1. ES&S were getting grilled on it by four Democratic senators

        Suddenly, when the outcome turned out massively in their favor

      2. The ironies are that you all had not problem with any of this in 2016, up to and including hacking done by our enemy after being point blank asked to by your candidate, you had no problem with the same voting machines, you have no problem with all of the down-ticket results, and that these results are being certified by GOP governors and sec.’s of state, and that you take the word of anonymous twitter users and partisan bloggers over dozens of courts in several states which have all found Trump’s complaints to be completely without merit and unsupported by evidence.

        1. you should want to know the truth.

        2. You can try making an actual argument here instead of emoting like a bitch.

          1. He’s facting like a boss.

            1. I didn’t see very many facts there.


    Demanding we ignored constitutional safeguards so that the media can declare a winner? Well you might be a fascist, or an idiot or both

    1. C.W. Buck @StopherBuck · 9h
      Replying to @Timcast
      If you pretend we hired Trump as a specialist to try and destroy the country on purpose to test our security measures & find the weak links so we know how to repair it, then it all kind of makes sense. Let me be first to say, he did a great job, 4 stars! We found all the bugs.


    The Gazette has learned that “science is back” by their usual method, which is by interviewing the leading Harvard professor on the subject. In this case that is John Holdren. Do you remember him? Holdren’s current title is “Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and professor of environmental science and policy in the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences.” But before that he was “[A]ssistant to the [P]resident for science and technology and director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy,” a position in which he served for the entire eight years of the Obama presidency.

    In 2009, shortly after Holdren’s confirmation as Obama’s “science” advisor, a website called Zombietime collected a top-ten list of quotations from “Ecoscience.” Here are a few of my favorites:

    Involuntary fertility control. . . . A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.
    If some individuals contribute to general social deterioration by overproducing children, and if the need is compelling, they can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility—just as they can be required to exercise responsibility in their resource-consumption patterns—providing they are not denied equal protection.
    In today’s world, however, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law regulates other highly personal matters. For example, no one may lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to prevent a person from having more than two children?
    Toward a Planetary Regime. . . . Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. . . . The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market. The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits.

    1. Or you could try another book that Holdren co-authored with the Ehrlichs — “Human Ecology,” from 1973. In 2014 the website CFACT compiled a collection of choice quotes from this one. Again, I’ll give you just a few of my favorites:

      There is good reason to believe that population growth increases the probability of a lethal worldwide plague and of a thermonuclear war. Either could provide a catastrophic “death-rate solution” to the population problem; each is potentially capable of destroying civilization and even of driving Homo sapiens to extinction. . . . Perhaps more likely than extinction is the possibility that man will sur­vive only to endure an existence barely recognizable as human-malnourished, beset by chronic disease, physically and emotionally impoverished, sur­rounded by the devastation wrought by an industrial civilization that could not cope with the results of its own biological and social folly.
      Political pressure must be applied immediately to induce the United States government to assume its responsibility to halt the growth of the Ameri­can population. Once growth is halted, the government should undertake to influence the birth rate so that the population is reduced to an optimum size and maintained there.
      A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environ­ment in North America and to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation.

      1. So his science advisor sees humanity as a “problem”…..

        1. And the reduction of humanity, especially Those People, as the solution.

    2. All I have to know about Harvard is that they discriminate against people based on race during the admissions process. They don’t want the best and brightest students to attend their school.

      At this point why should I think their professors are the best and brightest?

    3. Eugenics under a new name. many don’t know this but the U.S. once sterilized female orphans. this happened to a friend of the family. it was for their own good you know

  24. What’s more, there’s no particular evidence that U.S. women are seeking sex-selective abortions or race-selective abortions at all, let alone in significant numbers.

    If the EEOC has taught me anything, it’s that disparate impact is prima facie evidence of discrimination. Does one race or one sex get aborted more than another? Boom. There’s all the evidence you need.

    1. They never thought disparate impact would be something that would destroy constitutional rights.


    Everyone gave up on @GenFlynn. Willing to let him go to jail for something he didn’t do.

    Everyone EXCEPT Sidney. @SidneyPowell1.

    I’ll never give up on Liberty and Sidney is fighting for truth and Liberty.

    1. She’s nutso, but good luck.

      1. Or at least she became one once WK discovered she wasn’t TeamDNC.

        Hold on WK, I’ve got this… Canadamanbad.

        1. No, she’s really nuts. Even Trump campaign is now acting like they never knew her.

          You gotta keep up with the spin, if you want to make Cultist Level 6 before the great awakening!

        2. I’ll let you in on a secret, Mother’s. I’m joking around about Canadians. I don’t really dislike Canadians. Well, except for you.

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  26. Florida governments cannot ban counseling and other psychiatric programs aimed at changing people’s sexuality or gender identity, according to a new ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit.

    As long as the patients can choose or not choose it.


    What the hell.

    Another reason Trump needs to win or they’ll make this the new normal in schools and churches.

    1. Progressivism is munchausen-by-proxy as ideology and turned into a faith.

      That poor five year old is dragged up to declare they’re genderqueer just so Karen can get off on the “so brave” accolades from her idiot peers. Kids that age aren’t sexual beings.

      1. Kids that age aren’t sexual beings.

        I’m pretty sure that Phoenix didn’t stipulate “And she prefers ‘she’ and ‘her’ pronouns’.

        Between the rainbow asthetics, the little kid, and the man handing out flowers, and all the androgynous gray-hairs, it reminds me of the fact that Heavan’s Gate used to castrate males as a means to greater enlightenment.

  28. Which party are the facists again?

    Michigan Legislators Face Calls For Possible Criminal Charges After Meeting With President Trump On Certification


    Interesting cable leak from Wikileaks

    Dates back to 2006

    1. Wikileaks is a Russian mouthpiece. No evidence needed. It is known.


    Dear @TulsiGabbard progressives, your only hope to stop the endless wars, and the political establishment is to support @SidneyPowell1’s movement. We The People are going to take our country back!

  31. Covid: Pizza worker’s ‘lie’ forced South Australia lockdown

    The strict lockdown began on Wednesday after the state detected 36 infections, including its first locally acquired cases since April.

    But this would have been avoided if the man had told the truth, that he worked shifts at the shop, officials said.

    He said he only went there to buy a pizza.

    This misinformation prompted health officials to assume the man had caught the virus during a very brief exposure and that the strain must be a highly contagious one.

    …Police did not identify the man, but said he worked at the Woodville Pizza Bar in Adelaide.

    1. I found another way for the left to ‘reduce’ COVID cases and deaths:

      90-Year-Old Woman Chooses Suicide Over Facing Another Lockdown

      An elderly woman chose to end her life through doctor-assisted suicide, rather than endure another looming lockdown at her long-term care facility last month in Canada.

      The prospect of such a lockdown led Nancy Russell, 90, to end her life via controversial medically-assisted suicide.

      CTV News reported that during Toronto’s first lockdown of nursing homes, Russell declined physically when she was isolated from loved ones and her normal routine was disrupted.

      “She just truly did not believe that she wanted to try another one of those two-week confinements into her room,” Russell’s daughter said.

      “It was contact with people that was like food to her, it was like, oxygen,” the daughter added.

      1. Was there an option for the daughter to not leave her in there? Because that would be shitty if there was and she told her mom “gee, mom its too bad it had to come to this. Well, I have an airbnb reservation to get ready for in my guest house so see ya!”

        1. If it was me, I would sleep on the couch if necessary so my parents wouldn’t have to be stuck in one of those places alone

        2. maybe it depends it got to the point that my mother could not take care of her husband because she couldn’t leave him alone for a second it gets tiring. in this story this women did not seem to be at that point but maybe

      2. Yeah, I keep saying, loneliness lack of physical interaction kills old people. It’s fucking cruel and perverse.

      3. No, her suicide is clearly a COVID death. And must be counted twice because it was extra sad.

      4. two-week confinements” interesting how some want to outlaw confinement in prisons but think its okay to confine elderly people because they aren’t needed anymore or some such shit. when you are 90 the only thing left in life is friends and family because hopefully by then you have realized material items do not make a life

  32. “enacted the so-called reason bans”

    Liberals hate this, but love reason bans on vaccines. Nice, solid liberal hypocrisy.

  33. Hand recounts underway in WI and GA. AZ, NV, MI, PA certifying results so they can be challenged.

    Trump vs Biden is gonna be funny win for Trump like Bush vs Gore was a win for Bush.

    Trump campaign website

    The media liars are so desperate. At first they wouldn’t follow Trump campaign election news and now they are trying to dismiss any signs of the massive election fraud by democrats.

    1. The 2020 Trump ship has sailed LC.
      Time to gear up for 2024.


    “He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh, over color, over despair.” – Ezra Klein, on Obama in 2008

    1. More true than he knew – the triumph of talk over action.

      1. He was pretty good at kinetic military action though.

  35. “Regardless, these are exactly the kinds of private, personal, and heart-wrenching decisions that should be left to families and medical professionals, not subject to state approval.”

    1. What is heart wrenching about it? I thought it was a right that is deeply embedded in the Constitution. Abortion rights are the bedrock and, I dare say, life blood of our society.

    2. This weird deference to “medical professionals”. [I am one]. Are medical professionals some kind of super intelligent, ethical, and moral class who get to decide who lives and dies? If so, can I as a medical professional render a final opinion on the matter for all to follow?

  36. Dominion rep responds to Trump campaign claims in Fox News interview: ‘Physically impossible’ to switch votes

    “Its physically impossible to switch votes” except when it happened and the vote tallies were changed when caught.

    1. Why Industrial Scale Fraud Is Just So Hard To Hide

      Its why they hoped Trump would concede and no investigation of election take place.

  37. Lower the PCR from 40 cycles to reduce positive tests, adopt the “worldwide standard” WHO test of a COVID death, take advantage of vaccines the science-denying Trump didn’t use because Orange Man Bad (and the vaccines weren’t announced until 2-3 weeks after the election) and you have the Democrats saving all our lives so we owe them everything.

    you wind up missing the real picture.

    in this vein, i’d like to address a few possible confounds to my hypothesis.

    1. different counting. most of asia and africa are using the WHO covid death measure. it results in MUCH lower reported deaths than those used in the west.

    …based on this analysis (which looks correct to me) US deaths would be ~45% lower if we followed this standard instead of reporting “death with positive covid PCR test.”

    1. I’ve been wondering why Africa’s numbers have been largely sanguine since this all started. I guess it’s easy to have lower case numbers and death counts when your bureaucrats don’t have a vested interest in pumping the numbers up as much as possible.

    2. when it’s your turn, you get covid. everyone thought masks and SIP were working in peru and argentina, then, they stopped. it did not stop disease spread in japan, seroprev looks very high. something just stopped it from being severe/deadly. that’s immunity, not NPI.

      so let’s stop making the same mistakes over and over again as out panic to “do something” sets off another down-spiral of self-harm. it’s not helping. it never did.

      Truer words have never been spoken.

  38. I keep hitting people over the head with the same facts–because they keep ignoring reality.

    “The political polarization that grips the country is reflected in partisans’ views of the media, which are now the most divergent in Gallup’s history.”


    September 30, 2020

    When asked how much trust they had in mass media, “when it comes to reporting the news fully, accurately and fairly”, 89% of Republicans and 64% of Independents answered either “not very much” or “none at all”.

    The sad fact is that the news media has driven its credibility into the ground in this country, over the course of the last four years, especially, and that is at least half of the reason so many average Americans refuse to believe what the news media is telling them about the results of the election. There are market solutions to that problem, and they’re already at work. In the meantime, yelling at the townspeople for refusing to believe the Boy who Cried Wolf anymore is missing the point. If your bullshit was so thick for so long that people won’t believe anything you say anymore, the fault is all yours.

    1. The other half of the reason people are so reluctant to accept that Joe Biden won the election is because they have legitimate and genuine concerns about what the Democrats plan to do with them when Joe Biden makes it into the White House.

      It’s the same kind of thing that ultimately drives their reluctance to accept anything scientists have to say about man-made climate change. Because progressives are promising to destroy our standard of living using the excuse of climate change, people who don’t want their standard of living to be destroyed are highly reluctant to concede on anything that might suggest climate change is a legitimate concern.

      Likewise, the progressives, who have spent the last four years demonizing the white, blue collar middle class, are promising to remake the economy by way of the Green New Deal, launch a war on guns like we’ve never seen before, keep social media free from Republican views under the guise of hate speech, and effectively, to send private insurance packing with the introduction of Medicare for All. And they aren’t kidding about any of it.

      Under those circumstances, it would be irrational of the white, blue collar, middle class NOT to question the validity of any election results that will put Joe Biden in the White House. In the absence of a news media in which average non-Democrats have much trust at all, the Democrats could publicly make clear that they have no intention of doing all the awful things I listed above–but they fully intend to pursue each of those goals to the extent that the results of the Senate election in Georgia will let them.

      Reluctance to accept the legitimacy and legality of the terms by which your enemies have justified hanging you is not irrational. If you’ve been sentenced to death by hanging, the question isn’t whether your appeal is entirely justified. You should appeal the verdict and your sentence to a higher court using whatever objections are available to you–regardless of whether the only objections available to you are justified or rational.

      If the progressives didn’t want their opponents to react this way, then they shouldn’t have promised to remake the economy around socialist principles, promised to violate so many people’s rights, and they shouldn’t have preached naked contempt for the white, blue collar, middle class for so long. What progressives say generally shouldn’t be believed, but there is no good reason not to believe their policy objectives aren’t exactly what they say. And their campaign promises are horrifying.

      1. Good points. If you had a blog I’d follow it.

      2. Is progressivism a mental illness? If a progressive lives to indulge in delusional realities AND indulge in zealous evangelical activism, and is immune to any rational challenge, then what is their mental state?

    2. The sad fact is that so many people thought they had any credibility to start with. It’s not “over the course of the last four years” that they’ve revealed their bias, hell, their bias has been open at least since Pulitzer and Hearst.

    3. Journalists have always been partisan shills, but before 2000 they did a better job of hiding their powerlevel, and at least made an effort to talk directly to people instead of merely citing whatever AP-issued dreck from Twitter as news. They’ve gotten SO lazy due to social media and the general left-liberal groupthink of the profession, and this stuff is all encouraged at journalism schools now as standard practice.

      I was reading a commentary recently by a Boomer former news editor at a small local paper, who had assigned one her cub reporters to talk to the county clerk about some statistics for an article. A couple of weeks later, she asked this kid what he had found out, and he said, “Nothing, he never responded.”
      “Well, did you try calling him?”
      “No, I emailed him but he never wrote back.”
      “Pick up the damn phone and call him, now. That clerk has a policy of not responding to emails from journalists because he wants to see if you’ll actually make an effort to speak to him directly.”

      Email and social media has made Gen-Xers and Millennial journalists into stunted autists that can’t handle direct conversation, because it’s a lot harder to come up with some glib response to something when you have to think on your feet instead of responding on an internet board.

    4. The reason distrust of the media is so high among republicans is that right wing grifters have created “alternative fact” media buffets that republicans prefer to comfort binge on, rather than face uncomfortable realities which may challenge their faith based beliefs.

      1. You imagine 89% of Republicans are strange in this way–which is a number so high, it’s going into the mainstream. Meanwhile, the news media has little or no credibility with 64% of Independents, too. How does your theory account for that?

        Maybe the reason people think the media is so deeply biased is because it’s deeply biased.

        1. You trust polls now? Ok, fine.

          Yes, I think 89% of people who self identify as republicans are at least mildly delusional. That people prefer comforting lies to hard truths is not surprising, in the least. The good ol’ opiate of the masses is still popular, especially among this same demographic.

          And I would have to see how the question is worded, since fox news and huffington post are both considered part of the “mainstream”.

          1. lol @ HuffPo being “mainstream”, ignoring independents while assuming delusional thinking on 89% of Republicans….seriously you’re just too much.

            The only thing that makes it more disturbing than funny is you actually believe it.

            1. Huffington post is fringe? My point is that there are bad sources with different types of bias (fox on the other side) that are considered “mainstream”, so someone answering this question in the affirmative might not be against all media, but against specific examples that they are thinking of.

      2. The reason distrust of the media is so high among republicans

        ::ignores the 64% number among independents::

      3. rather than face uncomfortable realities which may challenge their faith based beliefs.

        Sort of like mask mandates and public gathering restrictions failing to stop record spikes in covid cases.

      4. Now do racial differences in IQ and other measurable human parameters.

        1. Why would I? Seems like that’s your thing.

  39. there seems to be a lot of grandstanding by the lockdown governors (who are almost invariably democrats as this issue has become distressingly partisan) but when one looks at red state vs blue state outcomes, it raises some serious questions.

    (graph from david steinmier, PhD)

    the blue states are faring noticeably less well than the red.

    this has been true all along.

    interestingly, red states are noticeably fatter which is a significant cov risk enhancer (and links to others like diabetes)

    so, ceteris paribus, you’d expect more red state deaths.

    but the record on these lockdown policies is clear:

    they are staggeringly expensive,

    they inflict massive harm on lives, mental health, and education,

    they cause big spikes in deaths of despair,

    and they do not work.

    to admit this is political suicide for their architects, so do not expect that

    they have to brazen this out, get bailouts, and will lie cheat to pin medals on themselves and claim to be heroes

    there is no other choice for a politician. but it’s a terrible course for a society

    1. I bet the difference is mostly urban/rural.

      1. And probably has little to no correlation with lockdown severity or length.

        1. That’s where my money is. If they do accomplish anything it’s only to kick the can down the road (and, rather stupidly, to kick the can down the road to flu season where infections are more likely to cause serious illness.).

  40. The Dominion voting machines is such a conspiracy Klobuchar and Warren warned against it. So ‘reliable’ the country where it was founded didn’t use their machines. I mean, when Justin doesn’t think you’re up to standard, maybe you need to rethink your product.

    And it did have some Chavez love.

    But nothing to see here!

    1. Two good things that we do here in Canada is require ID to vote, and use paper ballots which are handcounted and recorded on paper.

  41. “Conversion therapy for LGBT kids to be allowed again in Florida counties”

    Is there a conversion therapy for so called straight kids?

    1. Yes there is. It’s called mainstream media and public school.

      1. I’ve never noticed. Who exactly is trying to make you gay?

        1. The gay and trans propoganda is nonstop. Where have you been?

          I’m not even christian or anti-gay but come on, it’s clear and everpresent.

        2. I have lived in very liberal areas and very conservative areas, and I can say from firsthand experience that in liberal areas the messaging to kids does go way beyond “it’s OK to be gay or trans” to being gay or trans considered desirable, heroic, and a badge of honor for your parents.

        3. Read the book linked above.

        4. Who exactly is trying to make you gay?

          I don’t think it’s intentional, but as WK points out, gender-non-conformity isn’t just “accepted” – it’s heroized while straightness is outright demonized.

          My 13yo daughter, for example, tells people she’s bi because she doesn’t want to admit that she’s straight, which she thinks is the minority.

          1. My 13yo daughter, for example, tells people she’s bi because she doesn’t want to admit that she’s straight, which she thinks is the minority.

            WTF? Dude, that’s straight up brainwashing by the schools right there.

            Progressives really need to stop imposing their neuroticisms on the rest of the non-mentally ill population.

    2. Did you miss the bit about the idiots in Scotland?

  42. Abortion is the most over-hyped over-rated american political issue of all time. From Columbia, TN, smack dab in the middle of the state, it is a 90 minute drive to get to another state.

    1. To REALLY understand abortion, you have to have the best ANALOGY! Abortion is like this:

      You’re drunk off of your bleeding ass, driving down the road and shit, minding your own business and shit. Maybe you shouldn’t have dropped that acid, either, but the cops haven’t caught you, and, innocent till proven guilty, right? So you keep on driving… Your drunken ass is bleeding and shit, by the way, ‘cause you’ve got some wicked hemorrhoids, and shit!

      Then some space aliens swoop in on your car, and abduct you, and shit. They start anally probing you. For some strange reason, the little green men have a conscience attack, they start worrying about fucking up your health, and shit, what with your giant bleeding hemorrhoids. So they cease and desist, yank their probes out of your ass, and probe your nose instead, and shit. They don’t even bother to clean the bloody shit off of the probes, and shit!
      But then a mucus vampire circles around you and swoops in like a vulture!

      See, a mucus vampire, well, they’ve got some sort of magical nose for this kind of thing, and somehow he catches on to what’s going down, and he wants to suck your mucus, and shit. So he shows up, to get in on the action.

      But when the mucus vampire sees all your blood and shit mixed up with your mucus and shit, he gets all disgusted and shit. The blood, he can handle… Some of his best friends are blood vampires. He’s a tolerant and broad-minded vampire, and shit, you know. But REAL shit, in his mucus??! Now THAT is TOO MUCH shit, and shit!

      So he says, “Dudes, getting blood and shit into your mucus and shit, that’s like getting chocolate into your peanut butter and jelly and shit! That’s like getting your stupid and your evil all mixed up into your philosophy! This is some seriously fucked up bloody-snot shit! I’m outta here!” And the mucus vampire is SOOO sickened, he barfs all over you! Then he wraps his cloak around him like Batman folding up his bat-wings around himself, turns into a bat-shit crazy bat, and shit, and flies away, all disgusted.
      The little green men, being kinda autistic, take everything literally. They are also HORNY little green men, already excited by anally and nasally probing you, and, upon hearing the mucus vampire talking about “…seriously fucked up bloody-snot shit…”, get all carried away, and shoot their little-green-men jism all over your bloody-snot shit!

      Now if we sit back and think about this, your shit bacteria get all fucked up, ‘cause they were expecting a decent burial in your toilet, and they don’t get one. Your nasal bacteria and viruses were expecting to LIVE, or, at least, a traditional, honorable drying-out session in your booger rag, and they don’t get that, either. Your little green men sperm cells get REALLY screwed over, ‘cause they were expecting at least SOME long odds (but a real fighting chance) at some little green woman’s egg cell. Your red blood cells don’t matter, ‘cause they have no cell nucleus, let alone a nervous system, or any kind of independent life. Your white blood cells? Well, yes, they have a nucleus, and their own genes. But they’re WHITE, dammit! You cracker muthafuckers!!! WHITE means you’re a RACIST, and WHO CARES about the rights of racist honkeys?!?!

      Ergo, we must conclude, this whole thing is an abortion all around! Since abortions are, by definition, abortions, they need to be outlawed!

      1. I wish I’d aborted, but we didn’t have prenatal freakshow tests back then.

  43. “The pandemic is increasing child sex trafficking,”

    Without reading any further I’m willing to bet this is untrue.

    1. TL;DR version… the usual suspects are all “internet predators more active during lockdowns!” and the people who actually study the stuff are responding with, “Yeah, what’s actually happening is that most ‘child sex trafficking’ happens with people in the family or who the family knows, and that’s why it’s high: because kids are spending more time in lockdown with those people, and not interacting with others (external) who would notice the warning signs”.

  44. But what about conversion therapy for fetuses?

  45. People may chose sex selective abortion for personal reasons, like they have girls and want a boy or vice versa. But people may also have a very valid reason for making sex selective abortion particularly as they relate to sex linked conditions like hemophilia. Just like the Down Syndrome case do we want government stepping in to make decisions that people should make with their doctors and other support people.

    1. Now do every other type of medical decision.

    2. “But people may also have a very valid reason for making sex selective abortion particularly as they relate to sex linked conditions like hemophilia. Just like the Down Syndrome case do we want government stepping in to make decisions that people should make with their doctors and other support people.”

      Angling for a medical personnel job in Biden’s Forced Unity Camp? ENB could probably hook you up with some of her twitter connections.

    3. Driving my new car gives me severe anxiety ever since I rolled the last one. The longer I am driving the more anxious I get. Therefore, I have to get to my destination as quickly as possible before I start to feel uncomfortably anxious. Thankfully, with the help of my doctor and other support people, I have a letter stating my medical need to drive as fast as I need to without regard to speed limits and other such advisories. School zones really make me anxious so I’ve really got to get through them quickly. I love my doctor- she’s so… accommodating and affirming.

      1. I neglected to mention my “other support people”. Let me introduce you to my emotional support dog Roscoe. Roscoe is my 120lb Great Pyrenees. You know the airlines always push back that I can’t bring him in the cabin but thankfully my doctor wrote me a note to allow it. Similarly, Roscoe himself also suffers from anxiety so he has an emotional support animal. Jimmy is a 100lb pot bellied pig. Pigs are known for their emotional intelligence. Thankfully, my veterinarian was able to write a note to allow Jimmy to travel with Roscoe. It’s really incredible how much you can accomplish with a good doctor’s note. For my vet, I have updated my original Yelp review to reflect the changes.

    4. So what you’re saying is that if black people have sickle-cell or Jewish people have Tay-Sachs, they should abort as a public health service?

      1. I am saying what I said earlier. The decision to end a pregnancy can be very difficult and is best made by a woman or couple supported by their medical provider and their support group (relatives, friends, spiritual advisers, etc.). The Tennessee legislature is none of these and it would be best if it just stayed out of the way.

        1. “best made by a woman”???!!!!

          OHMAGAWD!! Stop assuming zir gender. You are doing violence with such careless, unscientific statements. I’m literally shaking right now.

        2. But people may also have a very valid reason for making sex selective abortion particularly as they relate to sex linked conditions like hemophilia. Just like the Down Syndrome case

          Um, you were quite a bit more specific earlier, is this the motte after the bailey?

          1. No it a response to your challenge. I noted conditions that are related to sex linked conditions and you responded with additional genic conditions, neither sex linked. Nor for that matter is Downs syndrome. In cases like these where genic conditions will result in an individual facing difficult medical conditions, the mother or the parent couple faces really terrible choices. My contention is that choice is best made close to the people most affected. Not the Tennessee legislature.

            I am not sure what your position is perhaps you should indicate who you think should make decisions in these cases.

            1. No, it’s textbook fallacious argumentation.


    Spoke to restaurant owners in LA on this latest lockdown. They had spent thousands making outdoor dining feasible. They had prepped for Thanksgiving week, one of their biggest nights for business of the year. This is devastating for them. His one question: where is the science?

  47. People are still being too nice…

    *language warning*
    New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy was accosted by a group filming for not wearing a mask while out for dinner with his family.


    The DC U.S. Attorney today confirmed to me that they will not pursue an investigation of who is funding the thugs who attacked my wife and me and sent a DC police officer to the hospital.


    The people who call Trump an authoritarian are the same people who support their governors forcing businesses to close, mask mandates, travel restrictions, curfews, and who are now trying to cancel everyone’s Thanksgiving and Christmas.

    Add it to the list.

    Feminists are sexists
    Antifa are fascists
    Anti-racists are racists
    Anti-authoritarians are authoritarian

    They are precisely whatever they accuse others of. Every time.

    1. which other groups in history had to practice their holidays in secrecy. is that where we are heading.
      I think besides destroying statues to change history they want to get rid of our holidays to silence our religious beliefs. we are living
      George Orwells 1984


    The Holocaust Museum in Florida has received backlash after announcing the opening of an exhibition concerning George Floyd, the man whose death in police custody sparked a resurgence of violent riots earlier this year.

  51. The most massive crime against humanity ever committed

    Small businesses are being wiped out by the thousands. Millions of people plunged into economic catastrophe. Yet somehow this is hardly discussed. We all pretend it isn’t happening. I’ve never seen a crisis of this magnitude so thoroughly ignored.

  52. As it stands, no one getting an abortion is required to provide a reason why and, even if it were necessary, women seeking abortions on unapproved grounds could simply say it was for another reason.

    Oh sweet child, you have no idea how stupid some people are or how vicious prosecutors can be.

  53. Yea, this and the extreme anomalies

    Dear Progressives, The rigged Muller investigation, along with the rigged impeachment & the rigged corporate media leads reasonable people to believe that this election was rigged.


    What the hell is this??

    DC is trying to vaccinate your kids without telling parents? No parental notification or consent?

    A secret process whereby parents are deliberately cut out of the vax decision process.


    The new laws not only proposes to cut parents out of the decision making process but it also proposes to create mechanisms by which the billing for a vaccine is done secretly and directly with the insurance companies so parents don’t know and can’t stop it.



    I’m not even anti vax. But I don’t know that I want my kids getting this vaccine either.

    But I do know is that I sure as fuck don’t want the state getting between me & my kid by creating a conspiracy to keep me on one side & the insurance co., the Dr. and my kid on the other.

    1. The more I read stuff like this the less I trust the new vaccines. They want to force kids to take the new vaccine that no rational parent would get voluntarily because they don’t NEED IT. So wtf is their plan, exactly?

    2. There’s nothing wrong with holding off on a new vaccine to see what the potential side effects might be, especially one that’s been rushed out this quick. Hell, a commercial variant of the Salk polio vaccine actually gave 40,000 people polio one year, because they didn’t practice proper QA to ensure the vaccine virus variant was dead instead of active.

      The slippery slope I’m seeing come up is that state governments are VERY likely to require people to show they’ve been vaccinated before entering public buildings or allowing businesses to open. If this vaccine has particularly acute side effects, a lot of people are going to sacrifice their health and maybe even their lives just so they can have their bug card ready in order to eat at Red Lobster in peace.


        I dont think vaccines will be forced on anyone

        I do think that most large multinational corporations will probably require them

        to clarify

        I mean government wont force it, private companies will

        Dave Rubin:
        If all the giant corporations and airlines jump in on this (which it looks like they will), it will be irrelevant whether the government forces it or not.

        1. I’m sure there’s going to be some self-imposed restrictions by various BigCorps, but you can count on a lot of states implementing it anyway so they can pat themselves on the back about how much they’re protecting people.

      2. This is an RNA vaccine, no chance of getting the illness from it. It has gone through all of the same safety protocols as all other vaccines do (other than the anthrax vaccine which failed to get certified and was still forced on service members), just with less bureaucratic paper holding between steps.

    3. Kids don’t even need the vaccine they will be fine if they get it just like the cold and that is why you wonder who is behind this. Not just Authoritarians but also corporations that want the money

      1. It’s $6.80 per dose. Pretty elaborate scam to get less than $7.

    4. It takes a village.

  55. Life is consciousness. A zygote is certainly not conscious and there is no moral reason to equate it with the woman within whose body it develops as an embryo when it reaches the womb. Nor for some time after it reaches the womb.

    However, consciousness does occur before birth and a woman who waits too long in pregnancy too abort it should be regarded as having VOLUNTARILY committed herself to taking the fetus to full term and giving sustenance after birth.

    1. When they said they were the party of science, they were just talking about climate science.

      1. Or climate catastrophe science fiction.

    2. Shut up, you chauvinist woman killer.

    3. What the heck are you trying to say? How are you defining consciousness? A one celled organism will respond to stimuli is that consciousness? A individual in a permanent vegetative state will also respond to stimuli but we don’t think of that person as conscious.

      1. Consciousness means ‘knowing’ (duh), like knowing you exist.

        1. Does a one celled creature know its exists? Does a person in a vegetative state know they exist?

          Knowing you exist is a much higher level of consciousness? I don’t think a child really knows that until early childhood. Like two or three when you are seeing the first signs of detachment from the mother and a level of independence.

          I suggest you try again,

          1. Yes, a full-term or even 30-week fetus is exactly the same as a one-celled organism or someone in a vegetative state. Exact same thing.

            A baby is pretty conscious if it’s left out in the open to die of exposure.

            Interestingly enough, I’ve known two women who were all “it’s only a clump of cells!” change their tune after they miscarried, and ended up getting pictures with that “clump of cells” in the hospital afterwards.

          2. “Does a one celled creature know its exists?”

            Of course not. That’s why there should be no restrictions on abortion during the early stages.

            My point was women should get their abortions early before the fetus becomes a conscious being with a will to live.

  56. Meanwhile, California progressives start to fight over who is more aggrieved, and thus deserve’s the Senate seat vacated by Harris:

  57. This whole debate about Election statistics reminds me of the infamous #deflategate controversy. On its face, the claim seems pretty specious and insignificant. Indeed, the outcome of the Patriots-Colts game likely wasn’t changed by a minor change in the PSI of the football. But analysis of the Patriots fumble and passing percentage statistic shows that they became impossibly better at holding the ball in about 2006, when the NFL changed the rule about who prepares the football for the game (the home team for both, or each team for their own.)

    I couldn’t find the original analysis I read, but this one has the gist of the argument:
    “Once again, a key takeaway is deadly obvious: Prior to 2007 the Patriots were right in line with the league averages across the other nondome teams. When you look team by team, they literally are in the middle of the pack for most seasons. But starting in 2007, all similarities totally vanish.

    The statistical “jump” the Patriots make in the 2006 offseason, from one fumble every 39 plays to one fumble every 76 plays is nothing short of remarkable. Their trend line over this period is not even close to that of the rest of the NFL.”

    So, just as the stats urged me to consider there was something significant happening with deflategate in conjunction with the incident that prompted the investigation, the statistical anomalies in this election make me think there’s something shady going on. Whether fraud will be proven is another matter.

    1. And I can concede that as a Colts fan, I’m inclined to think the worst of the Patriots. Just as I’d prefer Trump to be President rather than Biden, and that may affect how shady I interpret the anomalies to be.

    2. My question on the football thing is, was there an actual rule defining at what pressure balls must be inflated to? If not, then the Patriots were just following the great football tradition of testing the limits of the rules.

      1. Yes, ~13 PSI. Aaron Rodgers preferred overinflated balls, but he and Brady were only the ones I can recall that ever expressed a preference.

        If not, then the Patriots were just following the great football tradition of testing the limits of the rules.

        And there has never been a more brazen practitioner of this tradition than Belichick’s Patriots. The Deflategate penalty was a lifetime achievement award for thumbing one’s nose at the rules.

      2. Yes, there was a rule that specified the range. I believe it was 12-14 psi

    3. Mail in voting is not enough explanation for you? Benford himself debunking every Trumpie cultist’s rushed statistical “analysis” not convincing? The down ticket results somehow don’t seem equally fishy?

      Then you might be suffering from Hurt Feelings. Get your safe space and blankie today!

      1. The Trump admin is grasping at straws trying to cling to power, but there’s still a lot which should be studied. Mail-in voting has an established track record, and that record should be the used as a baseline in any discussion. I’m specifically curious about:

        1. What is the typical % turnout and rate of disqualifications in OR, CO, and other long-standing mail-in states in a Presidential year?
        2. What is the turnout and disqualification rate in each newly-adopted states, and how does it compare to that control group?
        3. What was the % of single-candidate ballots this year and in prior Presidential elections in each state?

        1. “there’s still a lot which should be studied”

          I agree. A few takeaways from 2020, that should be applied to making elections better *in the future*:
          1. Voting machine software should be open source so that anyone can examine it.
          2. Sending out ballots, as opposed to applications, is a bad idea.
          3. There should be systems in place for handling massive amounts of mail-in voting. There will be another pandemic someday.
          4. As a libertarian, I find it offensive that canvassing boards consist of two Republicans and two Democrats, and that is considered non-partisan. WTF, that is ensconcing two-party rule.

      2. I’d expect there to be big differences with mail in ballots this year. What doesn’t make sense is that while most states are fairly similar, the swing states, especially the few metro areas in those swing states, run contrary to the trends seen everywhere else in the country.

        So, just like I’d love to hear from Bill Bellichick what his magic solution to fumble prevention is, I’d like to know what makes those cities special that they’re so different than expected.

        And considering my supposed hurt feelings, it seems you have much stronger feelings than me about this topic.

    4. Except the elephant in the room was the actual science. Living in AZ we know all about how air pressure is affected by weather as the check tire lights light up after the first cool night here.
      The ‘science’ in deflategate was bad in major ways.
      1. There was never an initial measurement of the ball’s psi. There was a process whereby the refs and ball managers inflated and deflated the balls as needed and then did a cursory check, with two different measuring tools, and called the balls ready. None of this information was recorded.
      2. Temperature most definitely has an effect of air pressure. That is 4th grade science. As the weather got colder and wetter, the wetness helping to keep the cold on the balls, the air pressure naturally deflated.
      3. The balls were then assumed to be at 13 psi and measured with the same two measurement devices which yielded differing results on the same ball.
      Shit science to conflate a result that would then punish the Patriots.
      The final proof came at the end of the year when in spite of Goodell’s sanctions the Patriots won anyway, and though the process of measuring the balls throughout the season was instituted, the results were not shared.
      Karma can be a bitch. Dems take heed.

      1. That was my issue. When the figures came out that it was a difference of just a few PSI AFTER moving the balls from warm to cold environments, plus their instruments weren’t providing consistent results.
        Totally agree with what you’re saying. My whole point is the fact that they’re such an outlier makes me think there’s something to it. That is not definitive proof. Just something that makes me raise my eyebrows.

        1. Understood. It could also be something as simple as having a more consistently measured and inflated ball at the Patriot’s games because of the attention resulted in the players having a better ‘feel’ for the balls from week to week.
          If I remember, an impetus for Brady wanting a more precise ball was a game with the Jets where the balls were overinflated to a degree that made it hard to throw, like 16 psi.

  58. 2018:

    Google canceled a Pentagon contract for AI in drone targeting. But there’s no shortage of national security work for Silicon Valley.

    “Think Scowcroft Group, Kissinger, RiceHadleyGates, Albright, but my generation,” explained Michèle Flournoy, referencing the myriad of consulting firms founded by former top national security and foreign policy officials, during an interview on Capitol Hill. Flournoy herself is the former under secretary of defense for policy and one of the co-founders of WestExec Advisors.

  59. What is the Great Reset?

    I’ve got to say I’m not a fan of someone telling me I no longer own my stuff. But lets go to the source – how does the architect of the Great Reset describe his own initiative?


    You literally flew to Nicaragua to meet and advise Daniel Ortega -a brutal authoritarian dictator- on how to spread propaganda in the United States, you bragged about it on camera.

    We must never “normalize” authoritarianism. In ways that would’ve been beyond belief a few years ago, Trump and his team, through outrageous lies and conspiracy theories, are undermining American democracy. They must not and will not succeed.


    jon gabriel
    “Defund the Polic… WAIT! Is that a black guy walking in public?!?!”
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    Cops rolling through minority neighborhoods looking for mask violators. What could go wrong?!

    1. The irony of all these new restrictions on family gatherings is that this is likely why minorities have been getting more coof cases than white people since the pandemic started (well, that and bunching together in mass sweaty protests since the end of May)–because they’ve continued meeting up for weekend BBQs for months and spreading it to family members. Throw in the fact that a lot of older minorities are fat as hell from subsisting on a diet of high-cholesterol, high-sugar foods, and you have a great recipe for spreading an upper respiratory illness that rips through the eldery and obese like a buzzsaw.

      There’s no real, actual proof that restaurants, barber shops, gyms, and salons have been the source of virus infections; the lockdown governors are just arbitrarily punishing them out of panic because “SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING!”

  62. Breaking News: President-elect Joe Biden is expected to nominate Antony Blinken, a defender of global alliances and a close adviser, as secretary of state.

    1. But we were just saying this in case Republicans won. Whine!!!
      This is actually creepy
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  63. Tennessee can start enforcing a law that criminalizes abortions occurring for non-state-approved reasons.

    I’m so sorry that this is happening to you ENB.
    Killing retarded babies is libertarian feminism in action and a human right.
    Maybe its a consolation to know left libertarians will soon be able to go and have a nice progressive meal of long pork.

  64. Had a “Zoom” court meeting today. My daughter’s room mate filed an order of protection against her to cover up some damages the room mate had done to the apartment. The defendant claims to have Covid. OK. We need to set up a date to clean my daughters stuff out of the apartment. I hand signal online for Friday – get this done. The room mate says no. This Wednesday ? Nope. Why not the Judge asks? She’s going visit Michigan those days. She lost all validity then. She wanted to wait till next Monday. Nope – not happening. I was glad to make as bad for her as possible. Judge had enough with her. Seeing her stuck with the Judges ruling – Wednesday – is one of the few good things about this Covid crap.


    A friend of mine planned to drive up to Michigan this week to do Thanksgiving with the family.

    They were gonna have 11 people.

    The grandparents made the mistake of mentioning the party to their neighbors.

    Neighbors threatened to report them.

    Mom and dad canceled the party.

    1. This is the worst.

    2. This is the kind of thing that would encourage me to figure out the exact limits of local noise ordinances.

      1. Or the physics of flying bricks.

      2. … and then violate them

        1. You only know you’ve reached “too loud” when the cops actually show up, prior to that it’s just an opinion.


    Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts.

    1. So, now you are putting forth Nancy Pelosi’s judgement as support for Trump’s case? You realize that is what you are doing, right?

    2. Unless you are saying the Trump campaign and Pelosi are off their rockers. In which case, I heartily agree.

    3. I’m gonna guess your position is that it was wrong when Democrats whined about the 2016 election results, but it is noble that Trump is whining about the 2020 election results.

      1. I think the idea is apply the same standard. If it is okay for your Heroes Warrior Pelosi to clamor about the hijacked election then Trump gets the same level of grace.
        It also boils down to the two wrongs don’t make it right concept. If Pelosi can order an investigation based on allegation then should not Trump be accorded the same process in the order of fairness?
        Ultimately, it’s throwing smokescreens to get one tribe in over another. What we really need is an audit of those election results to get to the truth about how the elections were run. If Sleepy takes it, so be it.
        I’m actually concerned more that if the result is somehow overturned the rioting and peaceful protesting will be more destructive that we seen to date.

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  68. from the article, “Regardless, these are exactly the kinds of private, personal, and heart-wrenching decisions that should be left to families and medical professionals, not subject to state approval.”

    If an unborn baby is not human and therefore subject to being killed at the will of the mother, what is heart wrenching about such a decision?

    The double speak is strong in the pro-abortion crowd.

    1. “Regardless, these are exactly the kinds of private, personal, and heart-wrenching decisions that should be left to families and medical professionals, not subject to state approval.”

      Abortion is the only medical decision that merits this level of respect for the individual’s choice. Every other medicine or treatment requires total government oversight and approval.

  69. >>banning abortion based on the sex or race of the fetus or its likelihood to have Down syndrome

    how about spite? also, abortion is unjustified killing. do whatever the fuck you want with your body, but own your act, ladies.

    1. They want to be able to kill Down Syndrome babies and they do not want to have to explain themselves or answer any questions about it. Is that so much to ask?

      1. they should definitely shut up about hunters.

  70. the part of the law banning abortion based on the sex or race of the fetus or its likelihood to have Down syndrome.

    Well that’s gonna suck. I thought the going theory was that the national crime rate had been steadily dipping over the last few decades because black women were having abortions.

    1. And that’s not racist eugenics because reasons.

  71. Abortion wasn’t legalized on the basis of my body my choice. It was legalized on the basis of sympathy towards teen girls exceeding sympathy towards a dead fetus that can’t be seen. Women who abort based upon “bad” reasons aren’t sympathetic, so at some point that choice is going to get banned.

    People will try to justify the hypocrisy, but the reason is sympathy.


    We are now well beyond any level of tyranny that I previously would have thought would spawn a revolt.

    1. What’s your plan, Nardz. Going to put on body armor and go shoot up a shopping mall?


    Just a reminder of what the vote looked like in key states before they yelled “STOP!”

    1. Amazing what happens when the Republican incumbent tells his supporters for months to eschew voting by mail, and then mail-in votes are counted after in-person polling is counted.

      Well, not all that amazing. Predicted by many, many people long before it played out exactly as expected.

      1. Predicted by many, many people long before it played out exactly as expected.

        Yup. Couldn’t have said it better myself…


    In Georgia, a pipe burst was faked to kick out observers from State Farm Arena from 1030PM to 1AM.

    23k votes at 98% for Biden uploaded at 1218PM.

    9 witness affidavits of “pristine ballots, no folds, no creases, perfect bubbles, all for Biden”

    1. I’m sure this tweet was carefully fact checked before it was posted.

      Whatever alt-right reality you need to cling to, despite their being checks and redundancies in ballot counting, despite the Georgia vote having been counted twice already and certified, and being recounted a third time.

  75. What are laws in neighboring states? From almost anywhere in Tennessee, it can’t be more that a couple hours drive to Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, etc. with possibly less restrictive laws, right? And nothing “the authorities” can do about it.

  76. Sad the blind antireason infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome joins the lamestream media/Dem cabal in pretending there’s no obvious fraud in its blatant steal attempt of the election Trump clearly won even greater than 2016 in view of the many affidavits of fraud and chicanery and the mathematical impossibility he could have gotten 10 million more than 2016 with thousands in his real rallies, standing in line for hours, and still lost to the Biden corpse and his 12 man “rallies,” the convenient middle of the night ballot “dumps” where thousand of “votes” magically switch a big Trump lead to a narrow Biden lead. “Reason” is a cesspool of Dem useful idiocy no intelligent or rational person takes seriously, only blind Trump haters and Dem sycophants. Disgusting.

  77. Canada’s Supreme Court has ruled “that Ontario’s sex-offender registry regime violates the constitutional rights of people found not criminally responsible for their actions by reason of mental disorder.”

    Which completely undercuts the conceit that the registries are not punishment.

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