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The Messy TikTok Sale Is What Happens When Governments Get Involved in Social Media

Plus: More red states may get legal weed, antitrust action against Google expected this week, the Cuties controversy, and more...


Will America's favorite video app fall prey to executive overreach? It's looking more and more likely that it will.

Fans of the app (or just of freedom) hoped that President Donald Trump's arbitrary ban on TikTok—part of a techlash-y executive order prohibiting American transactions with Tencent Holdings, the Chinese company behind messaging service WeChat, and ByteDance, the entity behind TikTok—could be at least partially circumvented by a U.S. company buying TikTok. The American tech companies Microsoft and Oracle were both in talks about snapping up the popular video platform.

On Sunday, Microsoft announced that it was out of the running. "ByteDance let us know today they would not be selling TikTok's US operations to Microsoft," it declared.

"Oracle Wins Bid for TikTok in U.S., Beating Microsoft," announced The Wall Street Journal, with a range of other publications following suit.

But it's not at all clear that Oracle is in fact getting TikTok.

Chinese state media reported Monday morning that "ByteDance will not sell TikTok's U.S. operations to Microsoft or Oracle, nor will the company give the source code to any U.S. buyers," citing "sources." (ByteDance did not comment.)

"China released a revised catalogue of technologies that are subject to export bans or restrictions at the end of August, which means that ByteDance may have to obtain a license from the government to proceed with TikTok's sale to an American company," reports CGTN.

Note the may before have to obtain there—it's possible that this is the Chinese authorities puffing themselves up more than it is an insurmountable obstacle for ByteDance.

According to a recent lawsuit against Trump's TikTok order—filed by a former TikTok employee represented by constitutional lawyer Mike Godwin—ByteDance isn't based out of China anymore but rather the Cayman Islands, with TikTok headquartered in Culver City, California. "TikTok is neither owned, operated, nor controlled by China or the Chinese government. Indeed, TikTok does not even operate in China," states the suit.

In any event, "the clock is ticking on TikTok's fate," notes TechCrunch:

Beijing was ostensibly absent from ByteDance's negotiations with Washington in the early days, but that seems to have changed as the deal's deadline inches closer, with the U.S. government threatening to shut down the service in 45 days from August 6 (September 20) if ByteDance didn't find a local buyer for the company.

First, the Chinese government revised its export rules that could block the transfer or sale of ByteDance's recommendation algorithms, and now there's the state report refuting rumors that Oracle has secured the deal.

The acquisition of TikTok's U.S. assets has been rumoured to be for as much as $50 billion, according to reports.

ByteDance's rise to prominence is closely linked to its use of algorithm to serve up videos, memes, news articles and other forms of content across its family of apps. Machine learning does away the need for human curation and even social and interest graphs, forming virtuous cycles within ByteDance services—the more content one consumes, the better the apps get at predicting one's interest. The data-driven process transcends cultural differences, arguably why TikTok became the first consumer app from China to conquer the West.

The South China Morning Post reported today:

With a looming US deadline for ByteDance to sell TikTok's US operations, the source said: "The car can be sold, but not the engine.""The company [ByteDance] will not hand out source code to any US buyer, but the technology team of TikTok in the US can develop a new algorithm," the source told the South China Morning Post. The source, who did not want to be identified, said ByteDance had notified US authorities and potential bidders of the decision.


Five states to vote on lifting marijuana restrictions. Come November, "five more states could make it legal to buy weed for medical or recreational purposes," notes Politico. The matter will be left to voters in these states.

The biggest stakes are in New Jersey and Arizona, where polling suggests voters will back recreational sales.

If both measures pass, more than 16 million additional Americans would be living in states where anyone at least 21 years old can buy weed for any reason. That would mean more than 100 million Americans would have access to legal recreational marijuana sales, less than a decade after Colorado and Washington pioneered the modern legalization movement.

South Dakota and Montana could also pass recreational legalization measures this year. The former could become the first state to go from a total ban on weed to legalizing both medical and recreational sales, if voters back a pair of referendums.

Meanwhile, Mississippi voters will decide whether to legalize medical marijuana. Mississippi would join a recent wave of archconservative states—including Oklahoma, Arkansas and Utah—that have embraced medical sales in recent years.

"We're now working in very red states," said Matthew Schweich, deputy director of pro-legalization advocacy group Marijuana Policy Project. "If we win in Mississippi, Montana and South Dakota…it becomes more difficult for those senators to oppose legislation that allows their home states to implement laws the voters have approved."


Antitrust action against Google expected this week. "The real Sword of Damocles for Big Tech could come as early as this week, when a supposedly free-market Trump administration could launch a landmark lawsuit against" Google, writes the New York Post's Charles Gasparino. "Barring something dramatic, [Google] will soon be the target of litigation brought by the Trump Department of Justice and many states' attorneys general for alleged antitrust abuses."

Their case is a big stretch:

Google doesn't fit the classic definition of an antitrust target by costing consumer money—it's a free service for consumers that makes much of its money on advertising. But what makes Google enticing for class warriors is its size ($1 trillion market cap), massive profitability and omnipotence as everyone's favorite search engine, which also allows it to allegedly play dirty.

It's been accused of skewing search results to advertisers and giving top billing to search results that favor progressive political thought, not to mention mining user data for its business.

Given the politics of the moment, Google may be the first, but probably not the last, tech company to get roasted at the hands of the government not for doing anything terribly wrong, mind you, but for simply being too big and successful and the latest whipping boy for politicians in both parties.

For more on tech companies and antitrust, check out this 2019 Reason cover story.


• U.S. Customs and Border Protection bragged about seizing "2,000 counterfeit Apple AirPods from Hong Kong." And yet "based on the agency's own photos, the seized products appear to be legitimate OnePlus Buds—transported in a box that plainly says as much," notes The Verge.

• The Securities and Exchange Commission has busted rapper T.I. for an allegedly "unregistered and fraudulent" promotion of a cryptocurrency offering.

• Joe Biden's $11 trillion spending plan.

• Can Trump win the Mormon vote this time around?

• San Francisco residents will vote in November on whether to lower the local voting age to 16.

• Why a pandemic is a terrible time to buy a house.

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  1. On Sunday, Microsoft announced that it was out of the running.

    Damn TikTok’s time limit.

    1. Trump has lost the crucial Zoomer vote. My sources at CNN tell me there is major enthusiasm for Grandpa Joe Biden among the under 25 crowd. Who’s ready for the BlueWave2020!

      1. The funny thing is that there is nothing remarkable about TikTok’s setup that is unlike many other pseudo chinese companies out there. Nothing except the fact that TikTok Zoomers were responsible for humiliating Trump on his debut rally a month or so ago.

        Do not offend thine Trump, for he is a vengeful Trump.

        1. No, but it’s not like TikTok being a front for the CCP was unknown before now. There’s tech YouTubers from last year saying “hey, you probably shouldn’t get on this platform because the Chinese government is using it to monitor you and will likely try and backdoor your personal information.” Zoom has the same issue.

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  3. Some Senator-wannabe-podcaster seems to be under the mistaken impression about the legal definition of child pornography.

    Legislators and would-be legislators see this as a challenge they’re up to meeting.

    1. They know it when they see it, but will need to see it a lot to be sure.

  4. Facebook now suppressing any posts that mention the west coast fires as being the result of arson

      1. internet posts cause firefighters to shift resources? How?

        1. If you trace through all the links, the claim came from the FBI, but they don’t explain any logic behind it, either:

    1. Wow, even though several have been shown to be arson. Another reason to delete your FB account.

    2. Everyone knows it’s because of climate change. The science is settled, the debate is over. Just because they arrested someone after live-streaming himself setting fires means nothing.

      1. Do NOT fuck with the narrative.

    3. Funny thing about global warming – the Canadian government is reporting an unusually quiet fire season, one of the quietest since the 1990’s. Funny how global warming seems to recognize national boundaries. Although I suppose it’s possible that all these forest fires out west aren’t all being caused by global warming but by racism and Donald Trump as well. But other than that, I can’t imagine any other explanation – everybody knows every single bad thing in the world can be blamed on Trump, racism, and global warming.

      1. Clearly Gaia’s wrath against Trump, Exxon, and all the deplorables in the US. She also thinks Trudeau is cute.

      2. For some odd reason, the wildfires aren’t spreading into Canada and Mexico.

        1. Import restrictions.

          1. Trump tariffs?

      3. I’ve actually seen Leftie claims that they are Trump’s fault. But the fact is they are due to piss poor forest management spanning fifty years. We’ve known for that long that the policy of constantly putting out minor fires is bad. But the policies since then exacerbate it. Trees are considered sacred. We had a recent bark beetle infestation in the west, leaving an incredible number of dead trees. But was it allowed to harvest those dead trees for lumber? Or cut them down to thin the forests? To get rid of all that kindling and fuel? Nope. Absolutely positively against the law. Those dead trees are most of what’s been fueling these mega fires.

    4. “We are removing false claims that the wildfires in Oregon were started by certain groups.”

      That’s a bit different from “any posts that mention the west coast fires as being the result of arson”.

      1. When any report of wildfires being started by certain groups is “false”, the two are exactly the same.

      2. Weird how you defend corporate censorship.

        1. Weird how you support misinformation.

          1. we understand that you need your information curated and spoonfed to you

            1. The New Left Religion.

          2. Lol. Says the guy who still pushes the truml tower Russian Bank conspiracy.

            It isnt up to corporations to be arbiters of truth dickwad.

        2. His lefty ramblings are sponsored by Nike.

        3. It’s a pretty standard libertarian argument that a private website should be able to impose whatever rules they want about what posts they allow.

          Having said that, I think Facebook goes too far here. But it is their right to do so.

          1. Qualifier: It is unquestionably their legal right to impose whatever rules they want about the use of their website. It is not, however, their moral right to censor or to discriminate.

            So yes, a good libertarian can vigorously defend someone’s legal right to be a bigot while simultaneously shaming them for their prejudice or hypocrisy.

        4. It is curious that Nardz felt the need to overstate the scope of Facebook’s policy, as if accurately recounting what Facebook actually did would incite enough outrage against them.

          1. Thats cool. Keep defending censorship. Why be forced to think for yourself. You have betters to do that for you.

            1. That’s cool. Keep advocating for government control of private property and speech.

      3. Well, I know one west coast fire at least was started by dummies during a baby “gender reveal” party. I think they count as left-wing terrorists, right?

        1. It’s unlikely a gender reveal party would be thrown by a left-wing family, considering gender reveal parties are thought of as being insensitive to gender fluidity.

    5. Sec 230 is a Superprecedent fukbois in 3…2…1…

    6. From the link, only posts that blame antifa. So everyone is free to blame Boogaloo boys, tea partiers and MAGAists.

      1. The link says “certain groups”.

  5. U.S. Customs and Border Protection bragged about seizing “2,000 counterfeit Apple AirPods from Hong Kong.” And yet “based on the agency’s own photos, the seized products appear to be legitimate OnePlus Buds—transported in a box that plainly says as much…”

    It’s easier to pocket them when they fall of your own agency’s truck.

    1. It would be shocking if a company could counterfeit air pods but not their boxes.

      1. Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. It sounded like a complaint by someone who thinks counterfeit means poorly spelled knock off, not someone trying to pass off a product as the genuine article.

      2. Yeah, I was also really confused about why the box would be considered evidence of legitimacy of a product.

        Unless the article is trying to say that CBP thought they were counterfeit because they didn’t look like real AirPods – which they wouldn’t because they are OnePlus Buds, a different product.
        Bureaucratic incompetence is certainly believable. But if that’s what happened, the description above is pretty poor.

        1. That’s exactly what the article says.

      3. If you had read the article, which you clearly didn’t bother doing before commenting, you’d know that customs proudly put out a press release about how they had intercepted counterfeit Apple earbuds when the box was marked as a non-Apple product.

  6. The Securities and Exchange Commission has busted rapper T.I. for an allegedly “unregistered and fraudulent” promotion of a cryptocurrency offering.

    Yet Gates and Obama got off scot-free.

    1. Not to mention the Fed’s own offering of totally imaginary currency.

      1. The government does love a monopoly. The numbers games only became illegal once the state run lottery became a thing.


    I wonder how this will play out considering we have record gun sales, particularly among more urban and suburban liberals

    As the riots got closer to my home I immediately went to buy guns, experienced how it works buying it, and now have completely flipped on 2A

    1. Welcome to the revolution.
      Please get professional training, and practice as much as your local politicians allow.
      And VOTE!!!

    2. but do you have enough ammo? (You can never have enough ammo)

      1. My brother-in-law explained this quite nicely. If the police ever raid his home he wants the local newspaper to describe it as “an arsenal”. Not “a small arsenal”, just “an arsenal”.

  8. Joe Biden’s $11 trillion spending plan.

    The one campaign promise he can keep.


    .@joerogan Offers To Moderate A Presidential Debate. @realDonaldTrump Says Yes.

    This would be awesome. Do you think @JoeBiden would agree?

    1. “have you tried DMT?”

      How long until he tries to divert it into a discussion of Juijitsu?

      For the record these are not reasons to oppose Rogan as moderator, but reasons to support the idea.

    2. Depends on what Joe’s teleprompter tells him.

    3. 4 hours? Fuck that. I can’t stand to watch either of them speak for more than 20 seconds.

      1. Isn’t that basically the length of one of Rogan’s typical podcasts?

        1. Yeah about that depending on the guest.

    4. friggin do it. Rogan’s going to be the closest thing to a neutral arbiter you could find for a debate. Although I do think 4 hours might cut into Biden’s nap time.

      1. Nap time? If rumors are to be believed, he can’t go more than an hour at this point without having to take a piss, and his staff are trying to figure out the best brand of Depends for him to wear because he’s demonstrating instances of incontinence.

        If Rogan wants to do a four-hour debate, he better have some piddle pads on the floor.

        1. One might be tempted to believe anonymous 4chan rumors aren’t terribly trustworthy.

          1. The grains of salt you have to take with those could fill the Dead Sea.

        2. If we are believing rumors, then Trump was rushed to the hospital a few months back because he had a stroke.

  10. Can Trump win the Mormon vote this time around?


    1. Do Mormons proxy vote for the dead?

      1. No, but they tell all their wives how to vote.

    2. Careful if you say Mormon 3 times you summon killallrednecks

    3. Boom. roasted.

    1. How does that even compare to a guy with a knife coming at a police officer getting shot. #BLM

      1. In all fairness, he was no longer going after the cops; he was attempting to kidnap children.

        1. Democrats are really going for that pedo vote, huh? “Think of the children!” used to mean something else :/

        2. Kidnap his own children?

    2. Yeah, but were they high, ex-cons, and/or violating a court order?

  11. San Francisco residents will vote in November on whether to lower the local voting age to 16.

    The city’s only hope is for surly teens to rebel at the polls against their woke hippy parents.

    1. Family Ties Remake?

    2. No, long hair and hippy shit is still cool on campus. We probably need to wait at least 20 years for the cycle to switch again.

  12. Why a pandemic is a terrible time to buy a house.

    The pandemic and its media-driven work-from-home mandates will dry right up the second Biden wins the White House.

    1. If they’re saying that, it means buy.

    2. False. Biden will lose and the mandates will continue.

    3. But there will be a national mask mandate.

      1. Because science!

    4. But in this K-shaped recovery, rents are falling, occupancy rates are down, and your house might remain overpriced.

      This doesn’t track at all with what I’ve seen in Tucson. If anything rents are going up. I really wish journos would stop lying constantly.


    This guy was a democratic primary candidate in Florida’s 4th congressional district.

    this really is today’s Democratic Party.

    1. Those are things people commonly say to downplay videos of clear police misconduct. He is deploying it ironically in a situation where the roles are reversed. Are you autistic?

      1. Those are things people commonly say to downplay videos of clear police misconduct. He is deploying it ironically in a situation where the roles are reversed. Are you autistic?

        “clear police misconduct”

      2. And it falls utterly flat because when people say it about videos related to the police, its because the videos start mid-encounter after descalation efforts have already failed. Thus giving the false impression that the police tried no other actions first and that the suspect had done nothing to warrant a response. This is because these video are nearly always heavily edited by activists to create as much outrage as possible.

        The video here doesn’t start mid-encounter. We can clearly see that there were no interactions of importance that occurred before the video started that might change our perception of what happened.

        1. These idiots force me to become more pro-cop every week

  14. The Messy TikTok Sale Is What Happens When Governments Get Involved in Social Media

    Yeah, the Chinese Communist government.

    The Commies are aggressive and are using idiots who keep and send very private or sensitive information on their phones to spy on.

  15. Come November, “five more states could make it legal to buy weed for medical or recreational purposes,” notes Politico. The matter will be left to voters in these states.

    Dave’s not registered, man.

    1. What has that got to do with voting?

      1. If Dave’s not registered, he’s definitely voting Democrat.


    So here we have Biden caught redhanded using a teleprompter during a tv interview with James Corden. Now we know why his spokesman refused to answer @BretBaier’s question about this the other day.

    Who wants to bet that the media is going to ignore/cover this up to protect Joe?

    1. Local story.

  17. It’s been accused of skewing search results to advertisers and giving top billing to search results that favor progressive political thought, not to mention mining user data for its business.

    Old people don’t use Google. Old people vote.

  18. Censoring Scott Altas Should Be The Last Straw For Big Tech’s Censorship

    Google and its Lefty handlers are going to regret this censorship of dissenting views on an open video platform.

    As with Trump being the answer to a Lefty attempt to destroy the USA with Socialism, Anti-trust will be used to go after the Socialists that run Google.

    1. What does a professor from Stanford know?

    2. That article has been censored. The Federalist is still letting Google hold their balls? WTF?

  19. OMG! There was yet another police shooting of a Black or Brown body — this time in Pennsylvania. It’s clear American cops are absolutely out of control. Only a Biden / Harris Administration will stop this epidemic of police violence.


    1. And the thug had a knife.

      Meanwhile, black shoots cops without provocation in Compton.

      1. Mostly peaceful assassinations.

        1. Attempted assassination . Piss poor gun control, can’t even make a kill shot at point blank range. Loser.


    Today, in @JoeBiden’s town, a child was egged during our pro-Trump rally by hateful leftists.

  21. Fauci Spills The Beans: A Vaccine Won’t End COVID-19 Restrictions

    What’s this COVID19 thing?

    Here in Georgia we have been “open” for 6 months and we are living proof that you dont need masks or social distancing to survive Lefty propaganda.

    1. They said this in March.

      We’re fucked and accepting mask mandates made the jobs of these criminals easier.

      1. Interesting tidbit; Hong Kong is considering a law against masks.
        To hell with the virus, we need the facial recognition to suppress those damn freedom fighters.

      2. Perhaps we are lucky that the deep state chose masks as an easy to recognize symbol with which to promote and track fear in the populace. It could have been nose plugs, tin foil hats, or adult diapers.

    2. Fuck that fucking Fuckchi.


    A Black Lives Matter rioter in Lancaster got hit in the groin with a less-lethal police round. You hate to see it.

    1. Blue Balls Matter

      1. I’ll accept it. +1

    2. With any luck he won’t be able to reproduce.

    3. You put those stupid holes in your ears, you deserve to be shot in the balls.

    4. copying what someone on twitter said, joke’s on the cop. The little bitch was planning on transitioning anyway.

    5. ow! my groin!

      ~~George C. Scott

    6. The cries of “medic!” whenever these tards are tagged or gassed out, as if they’re combatants on a battlefield, at least provides a semblance of humor for these rage-fests.

      How the fuck is a “medic” (who most likely got his “medical training” by watching cartoons and first-aid videos on YouTube) going to provide relief for someone who just got hit in the nuts with a bean-bag?

    7. Why is he labeled as a “Black Lives Matter rioter” rather than just “rioter”?

      1. Their membership cards were all showing on their lanyards.

        1. There is one guy in the video. You didn’t actually watch it.

        2. I mean one guy that gets hit in the groin. There is absolutely nothing in the video that identifies what his ideological allegiances are.

          1. The membership card in the lanyard was clearly visible.

          2. And cry about it all you want–BLM has now created a culture where, if a minority is killed by police for any reason, even if justified, the city it happened in will be looted and property destroyed, if not burnt to the ground.

  23. Germany investigates 30,000 suspects over paedophile network

    1. hollywood?

      1. Netflix?

    2. Has buttplug posted yet this am?

    3. I feel like this would be a case for concentration camps that everyone could get behind.

  24. “Joe Biden’s $11 trillion spending plan.”

    Sounds like a lot, but Mr. Buttplug told me Democrats are now the party of fiscal responsibility.


    1. Mr. Buttplug

      Did you just assume it’s gender?

      1. There is no gender.
        Given the probability of guessing wrong, I now use soley (old school) male pronouns for everyone.

      2. we need a pedo reveal party for him/her/xe.

        1. Chris Hansen is very lonely so he’d probably do it.

  25. “Desire” showed a 9-year-old girl straddling a pillow to achieve a simulated orgasm. Investigate
    about “Desire”

    1. Thread

      We have told you about MANY Netflix shows which promote sexualization of children, if not outright child p-rn.
      Quote Tweet

      1. Yeah, I’m not sure what Netflix was thinking would they didn’t backpeddle heavily on the cuties debacle. They were just inviting the entire ass internet to go through their entire archives and post screenshots from questionable scenes that have been allowed.

        1. Just a quick reminder that Netflix’s CEO is a major Democratic donor, and was front and center in pushing the Net Neutrality stupidity.

          1. And is probably a pedophile.

            1. It’s Hollywood–at this point, it’s more of a shock when you find someone who *doesn’t* want to diddle little kids.

        2. why do i have a feeling this is going to end with 4Chan going full weaponized autism and bringing down netflix as a company?

    2. Back to basics; Cybill Shepherd in “The Last Picture Show”.
      Full frontal nudity at 17.
      Six academy award nominations, two wins.

  26. FLASHBACK: Black Lives Matter Was Violent From The Start, And Media And Politicians Knew It

    Police murder of unarmed citizens is unacceptable and reform has huge support with Americans. Lefties vote Democrat and the Party of slavery loves them some police and nanny state that have militarized the police.

  27. “The Messy TikTok Sale Is What Happens When Governments Get Involved in Social Media”

    Watching people try to spin this as a bad thing for TikTok users or President Trump is hilarious.

    TikTok users won’t notice any difference in the service at all–certainly not before the election.

    China’s prohibition on the transfer of technology may mean that the winning consortium led by Oracle and TikTok shareholders need to write their own recommendations algorithm rather than get TikTok’s wholesale, but that’s not likely to impact TikTok users in any noticeable way.

    Meanwhile there’s this:

    “Two people familiar with the Oracle deal said it was more appropriate to call it a partnership, rather than an acquisition, suggesting that there wasn’t an exchange of significant assets. At least some of ByteDance’s existing investors, including U.S. investment firms Sequoia Capital and General Atlantic, will get stakes in the venture as part of the deal, said people familiar with the matter.”

    This is TikTok selling itself to its own investors. It’s probably more accurate to say that some of TikTok’s existing investors are paying a premium to take TikTok’s U.S. operations private–although there’s no doubt that TikTok wouldn’t have done this if it weren’t for President Trump. . . . and that’s why people are writing about this–because it makes President Trump look especially good two months before the election.

    The Oracle deal includes a commitment to establish TikTok as a global company headquartered in the U.S., which he said would mean 20,000 new jobs.


    Whether President Trump is reelected depends on whether he can persuade swing voters in the rust belt swing states of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin that he’s the one who’s most likely to be successful in getting their jobs back (from China). Whether we want that to be the case doesn’t matter–that’s the way it is whether we like it or not. And President Trump just forced a Chinese company to sell itself to Americans–over the objections of President Xi.

    It’s nice of people like ENB to write articles denouncing Trump for forcing the sale of a Chinese company to Americans over the objections of Emperor Xi this close to the election–I just don’t understand why she’s working for the Trump campaign for free!!!

    What are you gonna do next–denounce him for bringing peace to the Middle East? Denounce him for getting us out of Afghanistan?


    1. “Ending the war on drugs is a dangerous experiment”

  28. How The 1960s Riots Foreshadow Today’s Communist Weaponization Of Black Pain

    Its a constant battle against the tyranny of Socialism and Communism.

  29. More bad economic news.’s benefactor Charles Koch only earned $165,000,000 on the last business day.

    Which means he’s still down over $6 billion this year, and barely in the global top 20. As brilliant as Mr. Koch is, even he cannot figure out how to be profitable in a high-tariff / low-immigration economy.


    1. But George Soros is still good, isn’t he? As painful as it is to see Koch’s fortune stagnating, it would be far worse for Soros.

      1. Koch and Soros are now besties.

        Love is in the air and they even started a cute little think-tank together:

        This may partially explain why Shikha, Welch and ENB still have jobs at a libertarian magazine.


    Dr. Fauci now recommends vitamins despite Facebook previously banning people who did the same

    1. In a year he will finally realize countries that use HcQ also have lower death rates.

      1. In years? Werent multiple studies put out showing India at an insanely low death rate because of its use?

        1. There is a very obvious correlation with death rates and HcQ. Fauci has refused to relent on his stance though. In fact when the WHO had that false study linking heart attacks and HcQ both France and Sweden stopped using it and their death rates more than doubled (went back down when the study was retracted).

          1. Who knew that human biochemistry is so woke?

            1. All those trannies winning gold in women’s events?

          2. he refuses because to do so would cut into any potential profits from a “new” drug the pharma companies develop, let’s call it QcH, which is by no means a redone version of HcQ

      2. I’m guessing mid-November.

    2. Fauci is why I give Trump a C for handling the pandemic instead of a B.

      And where has the Surgeon General been in all this? When’s the last time he made a public statement?

      1. “When’s the last time he made a public statement?”

        When he was saying something about masks. Forget what it was.

        1. He showed us how to make a mask out of a tshirt. I haven’t seen him since.


    Who Are These ‘Unemployed’ Donors Contributing Nearly Half of Democrat Group ActBlue’s Massive Campaign Funds?

    “After downloading hundreds of millions of [dollars in] donations to the Take Back Action Fund servers, we were shocked to see that almost half of the donations to ActBlue in 2019 claimed to be unemployed individuals,” he said. “The name of employers must be disclosed when making political donations, but more than 4.7 million donations came from people who claimed they did not have an employer. Those 4.7 million donations totaled $346 million ActBlue raised and sent to liberal causes.”

    1. They obviously think everyone is stupid.

      1. Yeah, so? They’re right, aren’t they?

    2. Good to see government pandemic stimulus money put to some practical use?

  32. If You Don’t Want To Be Forced Into A COVID-19 Vaccine, Start Protesting Now

    These peaceful protests against forced vaccinations will definitely be deemed dangerous “right-wing” hate speech while being silenced and censored at every turn by Lefties.

    1. South Dakota here I come.

    2. Not likely. The pansies who quake at the sight of a person without a mask are equally afraid of a Trump government vaccine. My progressive neighbors have told me they will never take a COVID vaccine because Trump and Big Pharma have colluded to over-ride safety and science.

      1. But masks are so sciencey.

      2. Ooh boy. This is where you get contraindications and people’s ability to think critically shows itself. Thinking in absolutes always breaks down at some point.
        Vaccines good but Trump bad… What do?

  33. Huge Nevada Trump Crowd Wants Four More Years, Not A New Normal

    This was in Nevada, supposedly a secure Blue state.

    1. Hundreds of thousands of former Californians have lost their jobs in Las Vegas over the course of the pandemic. The old school Nevadans left behind are red state types like they always were. The unions that represent the hospitality workers are still a force, but the people leaving the state in droves were the people who made Nevada bluer than it was before. The old folks and locals aren’t like that, and they aren’t going anywhere.

      1. Can the unemployed Cali refugees in Nevada be re-deployed as fire fighters on the coast?

        1. Can Cali government “workers” who are self righteously getting paid to do nothing at home be redeployed as firefighters on the coast?

          1. Can Cali government “workers” who are self righteously getting paid to do nothing at home be redeployed as sacrifices to Gaia by being thrown out of helicopters into the fires?

  34. Speaking of Afghanistan, peace talks have now begun in Qatar between the Taliban and the U.S. backed government in Kabul.

    If President Trump is reelected, we’ll be out of Afghanistan no later than the end of April. If Biden is elected, all bets are off.

    1. If President Trump is reelected, we’ll be out of Afghanistan no later than the end of April. If Biden is elected, all bets are off. the shooting starts back up.

      1. Well, as soon as the next Biden family scandal breaks.

    2. How crazy would it be if he manages to pull us out of Yemen and Saudi Arabia too?

      1. Dude will have 5 NPP’s before it’s all said and done.

        1. He should make his own peace prize and grant it to himself just to troll everyone.

          1. Trump has been officially nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize.

            1. Oh I’m well aware he’s up for the real one.

              A very Trump move would be to not wait around to see if he wins, just say the real one is worthless since they gave it to Obama for nothing and he’s making his own, much more prestigious award. It’s a 30ft tall bronze statue of himself and he’s going to put it on the front lawn of the White House.

              Just think of the breathless coverage.


    Lancaster Police release body cam footage of the fatal shooting. In the video, the man appears to charge the officer while holding the knife.


      Police released this footage as soon as possible to head off riots in Lancaster. Unfortunately, it didn’t work.

      BLM Riot Erupts In Lancaster After Police Shoot A Charging Knife-Wielding Domestic-Disturbance Suspec

      1. The riots aren’t based on police actions.
        The riots are based on marxist principles.

    2. Clearly, the cops should have shot the knife and not the innocent black hero.

  36. They voted in person
    Joe and Jill Biden leave the polling station after casting their early ballots for the Delaware statewide primary.

    1. Trump should emulate Biden and vote in person as well. In fact, he should vote in person in Washington, DC, New York, Florida and whatever state he happens to be in on November 3rd.


    A few days ago I told y’all to keep your eyes on the east coast and some of you doubted

    So far Rochester and Lancaster have been out of control

    Wait until you see what they have planned for the rest of the week in other major cities

    This is the hotspot right now

    1. Lancaster hasn’t even really kicked off yet. Last night was mainly the local tards getting worked up. That will change if the Antifuck insurrectionists come in from Sewerdelphia; same thing happened in Kenosha when the riot tourists arrived.

      The Lancaster protest is especially stupid because it’s as clear a case of a justified shooting as you can find. BLM and Antifa at this point are clearly trying to normalize ANY attack on a police officer regardless of the circumstances.

    2. Lancaster? It’s a damn shame when the Amish are looting a Best Buy.

      1. Damn that electronic blasphemy! And zippers.

      2. To be fair, Lancaster the city is a bit different from Lancaster the county. The city is apparently one of those artsy-fartsy havens and tends to lean blue; get outside the city, however, and you run into increasingly red-voting farming communities, of which the Amish make up a substantial number. The county as a whole tends to lean red because the city residents don’t quite outnumber the farmers.

        1. Haven’t been to Lancaster recently, but that sounds about right. They also have great food and outlet shopping.


    NEW: LASD & the families of the two ambushed deputies have given me permission to show this graphic photo of the moment after they were shot. I’m told female deputy was shot through jaw, still radioed for help & applied tourniquet to male deputy’s wounds. Both stable now.

    1. Why is that picture “no longer available “?

  39. GOP voter registrations surge in key battleground state

    If this is true, this supports the notion that Trump will win even more states than in 2016.

    Swing states like New Mexico, Colorado, Washington, New York, Maine, Nevada, Minnesota, Virginia, New jersey, New Hampshire…

    1. I suspect Trump has a good chance of winning swing states like California and New York as well.

      1. wat.

    2. I don’t think Jersey’s going to go for Trump, but in my exurb/rural area, You see a lot of Trump signs/flags/billboards (yes, really), and nothing for Biden.

      1. I golfed in Rockwall (Dallas suburb) last week and the houses surrounding the course were littered with T flags and bunting etc.

      2. It’s the same with bumper stickers. I’ve seen a lot of Trump 2020 stickers, I can count the number of Biden 2020 stickers I’ve seen on one hand.

    3. Washington ain’t swinging.

  40. Reason just can’t help but defend Big Tech, can it?

    THE GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY INVOLVED WITH SOCIAL MEDIA. It grants them special favors and protections. Stop trying to “muh free market” this issue.

    And the only thing worse than Cuties is the Beltway libertarian defense of it. I don’t care if you’re trying to criticize the sexualization of children. You can’t sexualize children in order to accomplish that end. It’s sick.

    1. It’s classic degenerate gaslighting–“We’re criticizing child sexualization by portraying it in mass media! Anyone who has a problem with this just doesn’t understand nuance!”

      I guess by this logic, Stormfront is really a woke organization of white allies for black people.

      1. I’m surprised they haven’t resorted to the old “if you’re against sexualizing children then that means you’re really a pedophile!” trope yet.

        1. A. “We are showing how bad it is” is a 180 from their earlier celebration of “childrens’ sexuality”.

          B. Kids taking drugs is bad. We will prove that by giving these 11 year olds some crack and filming the results.

          1. Here’s the thing: I love the cinema of excess. Movies like The Wolf of Wall Street and Spring Breakers and even Project X manage to make the viewer abhor hedonism by making them complicit in its excesses. But casting actual kids in a movie like this is sick.

            Why not make an animated film with the same message? I wouldn’t have a problem with that. And now, some Australian website is claiming that the producers of the film asked for videos of kids twerking during the audition process.

      2. Birth of a Nation was a film exposing racism.

        1. What’s ironic is that Cuties’ most stentorian defenders are the ones who’d like to memory-hole Birth of a Nation.

        2. Triumph of the Will exposed Nazism.

        3. 1927’s October exposed Bolshevism.
          Fahrenheit 9/11 exposed left-wing opposition to the Iraq war

          1. Saw was a movie that exposed torture.

          2. Fahrenheit 9/11 is probably Moore’s best movie. It’s his least partisan effort, and he actually makes good points throughout. Still one of the worst Palme d’Or winners, though.

            1. Clearly you have never seen Canadian bacon

        4. Star Wars exposed most of Carrie Fisher.

          1. was hot w/that machine gun in Blues Brothers

            1. Even hotter with the flame thrower

    2. “…It grants them special favors and protections…”

      Cite missing.

      1. Guess your search engine is broken – –

        1. Nope, but my bullshit detector is working just fine.

        2. 230 was a mistake. Internet services should have either functioned as publishers or utilities.

          Instead they got to have their cake:
          “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker”

          And eat it too:
          “(230) provides “Good Samaritan” protection from civil liability for operators of interactive computer services in the removal or moderation of third-party material they deem obscene or offensive, even of constitutionally protected speech”

      2. Do you think Big Tech doesn’t receive special subsidies and tax cuts? Do you really think they obtained their respective monopolies through free enterprise?

        I swear, libertarians devote so much energy towards protecting an industry that wouldn’t lift a finger to help them if they were on fire.

        1. I don’t think you know what “monopoly” means. Come back after you learn.

          1. Answer his question. Do you believe thse companies deserve extra protections?

          2. Fine. Oligopoly. That’s soooooooo much better.

            Are you one of those people who enjoys correcting others by telling them the U.S. is a republic, not a democracy?

  41. Per pool report, Trump campaign spox Tim Murtaugh on tonight’s *indoor* rally: “If you can join tens of thous. of people protesting in the streets, gamble in a casino, or burn down small businesses in riots, you can gather peacefully under the 1st Amendment to hear from” POTUS.

    1. In two weeks they will say 500,000 cases of the China virus were traced to the rally.

  42. Nobel Peace Prize Committee Considered Mussolini And Stalin, But Not Trump

    Writer and Nobel Prize winner Thomas Mann once said “a harmful truth is better than a useful lie.” So in that spirit, perhaps we should thank former Nobel Committee member Geir Lundestad for conceding in December of last year that “Obama did not do much before winning [the Peace Prize], but he represented the ideals of the committee.

    1. So the Nobel prize, like collage and med school admissions, lower the criteria for black people. Oh the soft racism of low expectations indeed

  43. Some Senator-wannabe-podcaster seems to be under the mistaken impression about the legal definition of child pornography.

    This guy and Shriek appear to have a lot in common.


    Harris said a Democratic administration, which she called “a Harris administration together with Joe Biden,”

  45. Michelle Obama Is Complicit In Netflix Child Porn Film ‘Cuties’

    Since “#cancelNetflix” started trending, Netflix has lost a whopping $9 billion in market share.

    Voting with your wallet gets Lefty’s attention since they can use YOUR money to subsidize their pet projects. Lefties have to produce entertainment that Americans approve of.

    1. It doesn’t help Netflix that their content has gone largely to complete, utter shit in the last few months. Even on Amazon Prime, there’s a fairly extensive library of free or light-ad content material that you can watch, which grows if you add channels like the PBS service. You can skip over their “original” content, which is largely mediocre, entirely and still get your money’s worth out of the service.

      Netflix isn’t just losing subscribers because of their promotion of child sexuality; they’re losing them because they don’t have any decent shit to watch.

      1. I’ve seen predictions of Netflix’ demise going back several years – as streaming services cut into cable TV revenue, more and more content generators will be offering their own streaming services and what will Netflix be offering once all the movie studios are keeping their films for their own distribution channels? It’ll be interesting to see what happens if this coronavirus pandemic crap continues as long as Trump is in office – the movie theater distribution channel will be closed off to the movie studios, will they partner with Netflix to get their releases out or will they simply go straight to offering their own service, new releases as well as their back catalog?

        1. It’s more likely they’ll go to their own services. They might set up a share agreement with Netflix to get extra eyeballs, but ultimately people will be more inclined to make the decision to just go with the proprietary service if they know they can get that content on demand, instead of whenever Netflix feels like having it available.

          I mean, really, is there any high-profile, high-demand media that Netflix can offer that people can’t already get on other services, and more consistently? The only one I can think of is The Witcher series.

          1. The only REAL media that Netflix has total control over is Bandersnatch, and that is only because it’s so interactive. These are the shows that Netflix should be focusing on.

            Even if they MAKE Stranger Things, I can watch Stranger Things on any number of pirate sites. Something like Bandersnatch is ONLY possible on Netflix. Very surprised we haven’t seen more of this style of show.

            1. Man, it says how bad Stranger Things became, in a short period of time, that I completely forgot about it until you mentioned it.

    2. So does this mean poundsign metoo is over?

  46. Although many details about the Great Reset won’t be rolled out until the World Economic Forum meets in Davos in January 2021, the general principles of the plan are clear: The world needs massive new government programs and far-reaching policies comparable to those offered by American socialists such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) in their Green New Deal plan.

    Or, put another way, we need a form of socialism — a word the World Economic Forum has deliberately avoided using, all while calling for countless socialist and progressive plans.

    “We need to design policies to align with investment in people and the environment,” said the general secretary of the International Trade Union Confederation, Sharan Burrow. “But above all, the longer-term perspective is about rebalancing economies.”

    1. For those of us who support free markets, the Great Reset is nothing short of terrifying. Our current crony capitalist system has many flaws, to be sure, but granting more power to the government agents who created that crony system and eroding property rights is not the best way forward. America is the world’s most powerful, prosperous nation precisely because of the very market principles the Great Reset supporters loathe, not in spite of them.

      Making matters worse, the left has already proven throughout the COVID-19 pandemic that it can radically transform political realities in the midst of a crisis, so it’s not hard to see how the Great Reset could eventually come to fruition.

    2. In other words, their solution for coronavirus (I’m assuming that’s what this is) is exactly the same as their solution to climate change, healthcare availablility, police reform, violent crime, economic recessions, and rheumatism.

    3. This sounds like the lunacy that came out of the Malvern Conference and its American counterpart in the early 1940s–the thirst by the morally and spiritually weak for globalist organizations to socially engineer entire nations and all of humanity into one managable organization, under the auspices of a self-contradicting, philosophical umbrella of pseudo-Enlightenment/neo-Marxist pretensions.

    4. I sure hope they put the right people in charge this time.

    5. Maybe we need something akin to the papal bull of 1493, and divide the planet into domains. The progressive left can have Europe. The authoritarian right can have Russia and Africa. People who prioritize liberty get the Americas.

    6. Reset? It’s an escalation.

  47. George Orwell
    What is Fascism?

    It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.

    Yet underneath all this mess there does lie a kind of buried meaning. To begin with, it is clear that there are very great differences, some of them easy to point out and not easy to explain away, between the régimes called Fascist and those called democratic. Secondly, if ‘Fascist’ means ‘in sympathy with Hitler’, some of the accusations I have listed above are obviously very much more justified than others. Thirdly, even the people who recklessly fling the word ‘Fascist’ in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.

    But Fascism is also a political and economic system. Why, then, cannot we have a clear and generally accepted definition of it? Alas! we shall not get one — not yet, anyway. To say why would take too long, but basically it is because it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily without making admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make. All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.

    1. But Fascism is also a political and economic system.

      Fascism is a political and economic system. It’s one where the government allows private ownership of the means of production, but only so long as it serves the interests of “the people”, which, since it is the government that defines the interests of the people, really means insofar as it serves the interests of the state.

      Looking at it that way, what are tariffs and subsidies if not government deciding what is in the people’s interest despite the people themselves deciding it’s not in their interest or why would an industry or a specific company need tariffs or subsidies?

      To the extent that you support subsidies or tariffs, you subscribe to the Top Men theory of governance, that somehow we must be encouraged to do certain things we’d rather not do or discouraged from doing things we’d otherwise do because we’re too goddamn stupid to know what’s for our own good and people smarter than us must therefore step in and guide us in the way we should go.

      Of course, left unquestioned is the matter of how the fuck do they know? What man has been given the omniscience to know the consequences of their actions? You can claim all you want what the intent of your actions are, but you know what they say about the road to Hell.

      “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.”

  48. The Left Is Setting The Stage For A Coup If Trump Wins

    It didnt work in 2017 with the attempted coup by Mueller and it wont work now.

    What it will do is unite the Silent Majority to initiate violence in self-defense against Socialists and Communists in the form of Civil War 2.0

    As Civil War 1.0 was started by Democrats, Civil War 2.0 has already begun with shots across the bow of the Silent Majority.

    1. The American left terrifies me.
      They’re setting the stage to destroy civilization in the Western world and they are too arrogant, entitled and naive to see it.

    2. What if this is all a misdirection to convince us that they plan insurrection in the event of a Trump victory? What if their real plan is to make sure there’s not going to be a Trump come November 3rd?

  49. The left is overplaying their hand on the antifa wildfires rumor.

    “Antifa activists did not start the West Coast wildfires”

    That statement is just as wrong as the statement that we know antifa set the fires on purpose.

    Because there is no proof yet that any of the alleged arsonists in custody are associated with antifa, that does not mean that, “Antifa activists did not start the West Coast wildfires”.

    As the arson suspects are arraigned, we’ll learn more and more about them, and the chances that none of them have ever expressed any support for antifa are pretty low.

    All the right needs to do is find one arsonists who expressed support for antifa once, and the whole news media narrative comes crashing down. I didn’t think the news media’s credibility could get much worse, but that’s a mighty thin branch they’re dancing on out there!

    1. FWIW, this alleged arsonist, who was arrested in Ferguson in 2014, apparently identifies with Black Lives Matter rather than antifa.

      I’m not sure voters care about the distinctions between BLM and antifa so much as they care about people purposely setting wildfires.

      1. It’s a distinction without a difference.

      2. What’s the incentive for Anti-Fa to start west coast wildfires? To piss off all the liberals that live in the bay area or San Fransciso or Seattle? Those places do not vote Trump.

        1. Yeah, I don’t think they’re too concerned about who they piss off.

    2. Local news about a man arrested for arson for setting a mostly peaceful fire:

      “While this fire was discovered and extinguished before it grew in size, the potential for the fire to have spread quickly was there,” the sheriff’s office said. “We are thankful for the community members who spotted and extinguished the fire before it was able to hurt anyone or cause any structure damage.”

      1. At this point, anyone caught trying to start a fire should be shot on sight and their body thrown in a lake.

        1. Don’t pollute the lakes.
          Keep the fire burning under control long enough for an impromptu cremation.

          1. ^This

      2. Yeah, that’s the thing. I don’t think anyone in the news media is arguing that self-identified anti-fa people aren’t perpetrating arson in Portland and elsewhere. In fact, I’ve seen stories that defend arson and looting with the logic that black people’s lives are more important than property.

        It’s just that, for some reason, they’ve suddenly become adamant that anti-fa doesn’t start wildfires. I think it’s all because they think that revelation would be bad for the Biden campaign and good for the Trump campaign. So, whereas before they would have been happy to report on anti-fa burning down Portland, Seattle, or Minneapolis, suddenly there’s no way anti-fa would stoop to setting wildfires.

        It’s all about the perception ahead of the election rather than any facts. What they’re saying doesn’t make sense otherwise.

        1. Notice, in this logic, it’s okay to burn people’s property down.

          Wildfires are unacceptable, however, because they destroy nature rather than people’s property?!

          I’m trying to understand why arson is okay in a riot in Minneapolis or Portland but not okay as a wildfire, and the most plausible explanation seems to be that it’s all about the implications on the election.

          It might have something to do with it being okay to burn down businesses but not people’s homes, too, but, again, the driving concern seems to be about the PR implications for the Biden campaign. Biden doesn’t want to say it’s okay to burn down people’s businesses but not their homes either.

          1. Ken, to be honest, I would rather see SFC burn down than the Sierras.

          2. More local news: A man was arrested on Sunday for intentionally setting a brush fire near Interstate 205 in Portland then, just hours after he was released, he was taken into custody again for lighting six more fires, according to Portland police.


            1. And this: The Linn County Sheriff’s Office said responders were called early Monday to eight small fires east and west of Sweet Home, as well as outside Brownsville. The blazes occurred in a two-hour timeframe.

              Authorities are looking for “a vehicle of interest” — a small white or silver 1990s Nissan pickup truck with a black canopy. The truck was seen in the area of one of the blazes.

              Despite at least four arrests in suspected arson cases around the state in recent weeks, local police departments and the FBI have roundly rejected and debunked rumors of widespread arson in relation to the massive wildfires that have burned in Oregon over the last week.


    3. Did they find the notarized membership card in his wallet?

      1. Yes, yes they did.
        They cannot comment publicly until after the trial.

    4. Yeah, every story about it leads with the denial. Methinks they doth protest too much?

      Pun intended. Haha.

  50. You may have heard about Joe Biden’s proposal to require current owners of “assault weapons” and “high-capacity magazines” to register them under the National Firearms Act. Here’s an overview of what that registration currently entails.

    1. Was that thought up by that fuckhead Mexican LARPer Robert Francis O’Rourke?

    2. It’s a damn shame us gun owners are so clumsy and lose all of our banned items in truly unfortunate boating accidents every time this subject comes up.

      We really need to be more careful.

  51. Mail-Vote Madness in Pennsylvania
    The swing state is heading toward an election crackup that could draw the entire country into a legal brawl.

    Pennsylvania has already suffered one interminable mail-vote delay in 2020, and a repeat in November could draw the entire country into a legal brawl, while putting the result of the presidential election into serious doubt. How about heading off this too-predictable debacle before it happens?

    1. Hanging chads, anyone?

      1. I don’t know about hanging Chad, but I do have a list for the gallows.

  52. Census Cuts All Counting Efforts Short By A Month

    Anyone else notice barely a peep from the MSM about the Census?

    It was clear in 2019 that the Census 2020 was going to result in over 10 lost House seats in Blue states to red states like Georgia and Texas.

    I personally think the Kungflu hysteria by Lefties was designed to not only make it easier to hijack the election via mail in ballots but also to stall the Census shift to House seats.


    Vaush The way I see it, the age of consent exists out of respect for the numerous power imbalances older people have over younger people. As those imbalances (or at least some of them) are redressed though the advent of socialism, the age of consent should therefor be lowered.

    1. Vaush is the idiot who actually argued that St. Kyle would have been safer staying put on the ground and not surrendering to the cops.

      He looks exactly like I would expect someone with his politics to look.

      1. That was the common refrain of the left, that Kyle Rittenhouse should have peacefully submitted himself to the mob. This in stark contrast to their righteous indignation over the idea that a suspect resisting arrest should have to peacefully submit himself to lawful orders from police officers.

        1. What’s ironic is that they can’t, or more likely won’t, admit that what Kyle did is exactly what they’d get with “community policing”–a bunch of them getting ventilated for trying to burn communities to the ground.

          1. Because they don’t believe that community policing will be members of the community defending themselves and possibly meting out vigilante justice. They intend for “community policing” to be Antifa thugs enforcing diktats from bureaucrats, those bureaucrats being themselves. See Portland for the left’s vision of “community policing” (they even admitted as much in the wake of the leftist executing that Trump supporter).

  54. That’s not what the Sword of Damoclese means.



    Scientists at MIT, Cardiff University, and elsewhere have observed what may be signs of life in the clouds of Venus.

    Precisely as I advised clients a decade ago.

    This is the announcement video to be officially published on September 14th, 2020.

    We are not alone.

    1. I don’t know. Like she mentions, phosphine is naturally produced by non-organic processes (heat, pressure) in gas giants. And like gas giants, Venus too has an incredibly hot, incredibly acidic and extremely high-pressure atmosphere.
      Another possibility is that phosphine that was expelled by the gas giants (meteor hits, etc) is captured by the larger rocky planets gravity. We wouldn’t notice here on Earth because we already have biologically produced phosphine.

  56. Joe Rogan Offers To Moderate A Presidential Debate. Trump Says Yes.

    1. The best chance Trump has for an impartial moderator.

    2. It would be worth for just how many people would be furious.

  57. everyone’s favorite search engine

    I avoid it as much as I can. I block all cookies and redirects, etc. That goes for FB/IG and Twitter too.

  58. Climate fight campaigners quit as Extinction Rebellion starts to split
    Allegations of bullying, racism and power-trips are hurting Extinction Rebellion’s credibility

    It was a disastrous interview that had viewers glued to their screens. The Extinction Rebellion spokeswoman Zion Lights was asked where the group had obtained figures which it claimed showed that climate change would kill “billions of people . . . in the next 10 to 20 years”.

    Ms Lights, a leading figure in the group, had to admit that the figures were “disputed”. The BBC’s Andrew Neil, sensing blood, pounced, accusing her of “scaring people with rhetoric”.

    Looking back, Ms Lights, 36, who has since left the organisation and become a campaigner for nuclear energy, said her experience in “XR” had left her “exhausted”, and is candid about what she perceives as its misgivings.

    1. It’s funny how Millennial/Zoomer activism basically just a retarded rehash of the Boomer protest movements of the 60s and 70s. These people are basically empty inside and are desperate for something to give their useless, miserable lives some kind of meaning–even if it results in all of society burning to the ground around them, after which they’d complain that no one tried to stop them.

      1. Yup. The pitfalls of attempting suicide as a “plea for help”.

  59. “Barring something dramatic, [Google] will soon be the target of litigation brought by the Trump Department of Justice and many states’ attorneys general for alleged antitrust abuses.”

    . . . .

    It’s been accused of skewing search results to advertisers and giving top billing to search results that favor progressive political thought, not to mention mining user data for its business.”

    The antitrust case doesn’t make any sense based on free speech. The purpose of antitrust law isn’t to address free speech issues. It’s to address things like monopoly rent.

    The antitrust case against Google (and Apple) makes more sense in terms of their app stores–especially those apps that aren’t selling their services for free.

    Google and Apple, for instance, both have music services–Google Play Music and Apple Music. They both cost $10 a month. Google’s and Apple’s app stores also sell apps for Spotify. Spotify also sells their service for $10 a month, but if you subscribe to the Spotify app through Google’s or Apple’s app store, Spotify has to pay Google or Apple 30% of subscription price.

    If Google and Apple aren’t abusing their position, it’s probably only for fear of regulators. Are Google or Apple offering better terms to artists and record companies than Spotify can offer to get their music on their own service and not Spotify’s? If not, why not?

    That’s only one example.

    I’m not saying the government should introduce antitrust case here, but I am saying that antitrust against Apple and Google centered on their app store practices makes a hell of a lot more sense than trying to pretend that antitrust has something to do with free speech or regulating companies that don’t charge consumers anything. If there’s app store abuse, it isn’t about consumers who pay nothing, and it isn’t about free speech either.

    1. It’s 15%, and almost no one uses the in purchase feature to sign up. In other words Spotify made a big nothing burger about it when in fact they hardly pay any fees to Apple because people use Spotify’s website to sign up instead.

      1. “Apple requires that Spotify and other digital services pay a 30% tax on purchases made through Apple’s payment system, including upgrading from our Free to our Premium service. If we pay this tax, it would force us to artificially inflate the price of our Premium membership well above the price of Apple Music. And to keep our price competitive for our customers, that isn’t something we can do.

        As an alternative, if we choose not to use Apple’s payment system, forgoing the charge, Apple then applies a series of technical and experience-limiting restrictions on Spotify. For example, they limit our communication with our customers—including our outreach beyond the app. In some cases, we aren’t even allowed to send emails to our customers who use Apple. Apple also routinely blocks our experience-enhancing upgrades. Over time, this has included locking Spotify and other competitors out of Apple services such as Siri, HomePod, and Apple Watch.”

        —-Daniel Ek, Founder and CEO of Spotify

        I was using that as one example. Fortnight’s recent blow ups are another.

        The point was, IF IF IF there’s a antitrust case to make, it’s on the app stores and it’s about apps consumers pay for–rather than about free speech or free apps.

        I’m all for free trade with China, too, but using antitrust law to go after Google or Apple for that doesn’t make much sense either. When they reveal what they’re doing to Google, I bet it has something to do with the app store and little or nothing to do with Section 230 or free apps.

  60. “it’s a free service for consumers that makes much of its money on advertising.”

    ENB, you dishonest shill, the advertisers are the consumer, the users are the product.
    That’s like insisting that cattle are a meat packing plant’s customers.

    1. When I was a kid, listening to six day creationists talk about science made it seem like scientists woke up every morning thinking about how to disprove the Bible–and then got to work misinterpreting the world around them to push their anti-bible message.

      Sometimes I think TDS victims are really like that.

      Everything that happens is another reason to vote against Trump, and in their minds, to provide more reasons to vote against Trump seems to be the only reason why think anything happens. If a tree falls in the middle of a forest and it doesn’t suggest that Trump shouldn’t be reelected, then it shouldn’t have bothered to fall.

  61. Fucking American rednecks won’t let us have Canadian style gun laws.

    Over 80 gunshots fired at Toronto gender reveal party shootout

    Shootouts such as this one are becoming more and more common in the Greater Toronto Area, often with the exact same MO. Armed attackers show up in a car where they know their targets are going to be and open up on them.

    1. The irony here is Toronto is basically a Democrat north city.

      Those idiots gave Justins a second mandate. And now Justin is going to try and steal the guns from ‘rednecks’ because of the retardation of urban violence.

      But the important thing is was the gunman wearing a mask?

      1. Here’s the money line: “Etobicoke continues to experience a surge in violent and bizarre incidents in the year 2020.”

        It doesn’t matter how much you pay people off to sit in their homes with their ass glued to the couch, isolating one of the most social creatures on the planet for weeks and months on end is ultimately going to result in increasingly psychotic, anti-social behaviors manifesting themselves. Especially in modern urban areas where the population already tends to act like the rats from John Calhoun’s experiments.

        1. More like chimps, who spend all their time in the wild pursuing and exploiting tribal status.

          At least humans include a handful of (anti-social) libertarians.

  62. > Can Trump win the Mormon vote this time around?

    While Mormon’s are one of the more goofier sects, they do take their religion seriously. The Evangelical Right is all too eager to dump their religious based morality in the toilet in favor of voting for Trump, but Mormons don’t so easily shrug off their faith.

    Voting for Trump while holding the nose is one thing. In a two party system it may very well be that he is the lesser evil. But he is still evil, and no Christian should ever be proclaiming him a good candidate or holding him to lower standards than they hold themselves. The man is a philanderer, a liar, a proclaimed sexual offender, who mocks the disabled, the poor, the veteran, and who has not once apologized for any past action. Back when Bill Clinton was running, the mantra on the right was “Character Matters”. Trump a tenth the character of Bill Clinton.

    1. I know a Mormon who’s in school to be an engineer. He registered libertarian and is voting for Donald Trump.

      Mormons take the direction of their twelve apostles very seriously. if the quorum of the twelve told Mormons not to vote for Trump, plenty of them wouldn’t.

      Meanwhile, Democrats are official champions of all sorts of things Mormons . . . um . . . aren’t necessarily on board with. For instance, it’s my understanding that Mormons believe we were male or female before we were born.

      I’ll buy that plenty of Mormons will stay home rather than vote for Trump. They’re not about to vote for Biden en masse or celebrate his victory.

      And they’re far more tolerant than is generally appreciated. A nice chunk of Las Vegas is still Mormon.

    2. While Mormon’s are one of the more goofier sects, they do take their religion seriously. The Evangelical Right is all too eager to dump their religious based morality in the toilet in favor of voting for Trump, but Mormons don’t so easily shrug off their faith.

      It didn’t bother them all that much in 2016 when the neocons desperately tried to run a neocon Mormon spook as an “independent” to try and prevent Trump from taking Utah.

    3. “Trump a tenth the character of Bill Clinton.”

      Pedo Island frequenter Bill Clinton?

      1. Well Slick Willie did have a certain aw shucks kind of charm. He also had the ability to just ride through the storm like it was nothing. Trump is more reactive. Whole different style.

      2. The guy that sold MIRV tech to the ChiComs

    4. But he is still evil, and no Christian should ever be proclaiming him a good candidate or holding him to lower standards than they hold themselves.

      We’re not electing a rabbi or a priest, we’re electing the political head of the federal bureaucracy. His sex life is of no concern as long as he does his job and stays within the bounds defined by the US Constitution.

      ack when Bill Clinton was running, the mantra on the right was “Character Matters”.

      Yes, and the right is figuring out that this is foolish. What matters is in a president is lawfulness and good governance, nothing more.

      1. The idea that Christians should be voting based on the perceived morality of the candidate is ludicrous. Judge not lest ye be judged and whatnot. To the extent that Donald Trump is immoral or is a sinner, God will sort him out when the time comes.

        Voting because you think a candidate’s policies are moral makes sense, you want to live in a society that lines up with your own morality. Voting because he behaves morally in his personal life makes no sense, his personal life doesn’t affect you.

  63. ” Can Trump win the Mormon vote this time around?”

    If the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints still abhors abortion, yes.

    1. I don’t think they do, actually. They think the soul goes into the baby at birth.

    2. And what if they also abhor immoral people like Donald Trump? That’s two conflicting directions, and why would it be automatic to consider only one abhorrent factor and not the other?

  64. forming virtuous cycles within ByteDance services

    I’ve never heard the term ‘virtuous cycles’ before and, holy shit is that a wicked piece of newspeak for ‘self-referencing’, ‘incestuous’ or ‘feedback loops’.

  65. Microsoft’s dance vid was awful.

  66. I think the Tik-Tok deal goes down in flames; that app will be banned.

  67. Equipo de Futbol de Washington is in first place, Ken.

    1. Eagles look like garbage.
      Cowboys have some work to do too

      1. Every day the Eagles lose is a good day. Cowboys played like ladies and still should have won. Refs fucked us on the Offensive PI on the last drive.

  68. The mob of BLM protesters showing up at the hospital in Compton and blocking the entrance presumably to keep the deputies from being treated and then chanting they hope they die, shocks the conscience. The deputies were ambushed. One of them is a mother of small children. And BLM mobilized to protest what? That the deputies were not left on the street to die?

    Anyone who defends BLM is either just willfully ignorant or a complete and total scumbag or both. If we had any kind of a functioning and honest media in this country after this weekend BLM would be more toxic and more hated in this country than Al Quada after 9-11. Instead we don’t, and BLM basically runs the Democratic Party and is on the payroll of nearly every major corporation in America.

    1. What we are seeing is unbelievable. It is the deliberate and intentional destruction of the greatest country on the face of the planet. My question is who is funding this?

      1. You and I are funding this. We still have race riots and violence after how many years? How many democrat or republican governments? They feed off this crap. It lets them attack and blame the other side. It causes fear and crisis. They need that.

      2. My question is who is funding this?

        Look who it benefits: China, Europe, and huge multinational corporations.

    2. Now see, that could be the basis for a very powerful Ad campaign. BLM and Antifa are suffering from an echo chamber that really makes them believe everyone is A-Okay with shooting a cop who’s minding his own business. Get this kind of story in front of people and ordinary folks are going to have a very low opinion of the rioters actions.

      1. Unfortunately, a large portion of the country will here very little of this story.

        1. They may yet, with well-timed and well-crafted commercials.

    3. “shocks the conscience.”
      Even the left has a conscience to be shocked. But they are told, and believe, what the Biden ads are telling them: the violence is all due to Trump’s hateful, divisive words and that Joe Biden will speak compassionately and unite us.

      1. The ones who will believe that, and they exist but are not all of them, will believe anything and support anything the Democrats do up to and including mass murder.

        1. I think there is a non zero percentage of people who are also just going to vote Biden to give the left the lollipop they’ve been screaming about for 3 years. Can’t really argue with the logic except you never negotiate with terrorists. But that vote is certainly out there.

          1. The Democrats are essentially demanding that we vote for them or else they’ll keep destroying their own neighborhoods. Appeasement logic only applies for the people that live inside those neighborhoods and haven’t yet escaped.

            1. Need to tack on: Appeasement logic only applies to people living in those neighborhoods and haven’t yet escaped and don’t see a reasonable chance to vote the Democrats out of their neighborhood.

            2. And the republicans are demanding we vote for them or your suburbs will turn into Mogadishu. I don’t see much difference between them.

              Maybe it is just human nature. Humans have a side that feeds on conflict and war. Politicians, kings, gang leaders, they know this so they give them what they want. It is a paradox because they also want order, safety, and security so they promise them that. At a price.

              1. There’s quite a difference. Note that all these riots are only occurring in Democrat-controlled cities. Coincidence?

              2. And the republicans are demanding we vote for them or your suburbs will turn into Mogadishu.

                When you look at what happened in Minneapolis and Kenosha and New York City, how is that not true? How the fuck can you look at the Democratic supported rioting and think the problem is Republicans telling the public that voting for Democrats is voting for chaos? How does that work in your mind?

                1. Biden is openly saying that all of these problems will get worse if we re-elect Trump.

                  That is not a prediction, it is a threat.

                  1. Or, to be more precise, it’s his handlers threatening that.

                    And they’re not bluffing. I guarantee if Trump wins, a whole bunch of cities are going to burn, because the Dem party elites don’t give a shit as long as their own homes aren’t threatened.

    4. The deputies were ambushed. One of them is a mother of small children.

      Amazingly, the female cop remained cognizant enough to not only call in the shooting, but give her partner first aid. Contrast that to the Antifags that screech “medic!” every time they get a bit of tear gas in their eyes or flop down in a quivering puddle whenever a cop uses the slightest bit of resistance against them.

      No wonder the BLM-tards want her to die–they’re clearly afraid this Full Metal Bitch is going to come back on the street and curb-stomp them.

    5. I know a few incredibly gullible well meaning types who like BLM and at some point they too will see whats really happening. Even the media can’t spin that recent story. From what I saw, their strategy was to deflect and talk instead about the “peaceful protests” directed at the NBA.

    6. It didn’t make me want to hold hands in a circle and sing “Lift Every Voice and Sing”.

    7. Not defending the protestors at the hospital, although I’m sure you will twist my words and say I am.

      There wasn’t a “mob”. There were four or five protestors. And there was nothing that associated them with Black Lives Matter. Again, you are casually engaging in guilt by association.

      I’m not defending Black Lives Matter, either, by the way. I’m pointing out, again, how you play fast and loose with guilt by association. I’m sure it will be twisted into saying that I defended BLM, when I have done no such thing. Criticize BLM for things they are actually involved in.

  69. I do not think the government should be involved at all. All of these things data mine including this one. If I go look at some ads for power tools pop ups for power tools will be all over my pages.

    Not only that our government spies on us all over the place. I assume the Russians spy on us and we spy on them. It is a consequence of the technology.

  70. “Mail-Vote Madness in Pennsylvania”
    Looking less likely to matter. My source in county GOP says their internal polling shows Biden gained another 2% on Trump in the last two weeks. {Now up by 7%] Biden ads blanketing Penna. with three themes: Trump’s words promote violence, Trump’s inaction on virus killed tens of thousands, and Trump will take away your social security by 2023. It doesn’t take but a small percentage to buy this bullshit and flip a swing state.

  71. “Daniel W. Drezner
    Some Senator-wannabe-podcaster seems to be under the mistaken impression about the legal definition of child pornography.”

    There’s some serious 9D chess being played by Trump and the Republicans here.
    With only a month and a half until the election, they’ve got all their adversaries in the media and on the left looking like they’re covering for pedophilia.

    1. Yeah I saw a tweet the other day that was basically “It has come to my attention that being anti-pedophilia is now a right-wing position. As a right-winger I will proudly own that one”.

      1. Look how hard they were trying to play down Rosenbaum’s criminal history as a child rapist after St. Kyle ventilated him. Rosenbaum probably saw those pudgy apple-cheeks and had flashbacks to his moment of greatest happiness.

    2. There’s some serious 9D chess being played by Trump and the Republicans here. With only a month and a half until the election, they’ve got all their adversaries in the media and on the left looking like they’re covering for pedophilia.

      It’s plain that they are. The only question is whether they are violating any laws doing so.

      1. What I don’t get is how stupid they could be to think “but it is not illegal” is any kind of a good position to take. The film has 10 year old girls twerking with each other and rubbing themselves through their clothes. Anyone who sees that and thinks that it maybe being technically not child pornography under federal law makes it okay or in anyway excuses it, is either a pedo themselves or has lost their fucking minds.

        1. Gillespie tweeted it. Sullum wrote an article. Chances are that all the Reason staff will defend pedophilia now

          1. Gillespie’s jacket is going to beat the shit out of all of them for this. It’s never tolerated pedos.

  72. The Messy TikTok Sale Is What Happens When Governments Get Involved in Social Media

    But enough about the Chinese government spying on Americans.

    1. It’s not really a ‘sale’. Oracle will buy a minority stake in exchange for getting some of the bandwidth used at their data centers and resulting $$ incoming from the IaaS (infrastructure as a service) sales.

    2. How is the TikTok app “spying” any more than, say, the YouTube app “spies” on its users?

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  74. How is the TikTok app “spying” any more than, say, the YouTube/ Facebook apps “spies” as well on its users?
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