The Cops Took This Guy's $15,000 Jeep Because His Girlfriend Allegedly Used It for a $25 Marijuana Sale
Kevin McBride argues that Arizona's civil forfeiture law is unconstitutional.

Tucson handyman Kevin McBride was hard at work one Friday last May when his girlfriend offered to get him a cold drink from a convenience store. She took his Jeep, his sole means of transportation and the basis of his livelihood. Then the cops took his Jeep, and local prosecutors are now demanding a $1,900 ransom before he can get it back.
This sort of shakedown would be clearly felonious if ordinary criminals attempted it. But as McBride discovered, it is legal under Arizona's civil asset forfeiture law. The cops said McBride's girlfriend had used his Jeep to sell a small amount of marijuana to an undercover officer for $25. Although the charges against her were dropped, the Jeep is still being held as a party to that alleged offense, and McBride has to pay for the privilege of getting his property back.
"They're extorting money from me," McBride says, "and I didn't do anything. I don't know how they can do that. You know, we don't live in a free country anymore, because that's not freedom."
Ordinarily, someone in McBride's position would be inclined to give in, since challenging the forfeiture would cost thousands of dollars in legal fees, and there would be no guarantee of winning. But the Goldwater Institute is representing McBride pro bono, arguing that Arizona's system of legalized theft violates the Fifth Amendment's guarantee of due process and the Eighth Amendment's ban on excessive fines.
When he began to wonder what was keeping his girlfriend, McBride hitched a ride to the convenience store, where he was dismayed to find police loading his Jeep onto a flatbed truck. When he asked the cops what was going on, he was handed a phone number to call for an explanation. He tried the number for three weeks before someone answered, which is when he found out that his Jeep had been seized because of the alleged marijuana sale.
Under civil forfeiture law, neither the fact that McBride was not accused of a crime nor the fact that the charges against his girlfriend were dropped made any difference. Officially, the Jeep itself is accused of participating in criminal activity. If McBride could scrape together the money for a lawyer to challenge the forfeiture, the government would have to show by "clear and convincing evidence" that the Jeep was involved in a penny-ante marijuana sale.
That is actually an improvement on the standard that applied before Arizona amended its forfeiture law in 2017, when "a preponderance of the evidence" (any probability greater than 50 percent) was enough. But the current standard is still a much lighter burden than proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the rule that applies in criminal cases. And unlike criminal defendants, innocent owners like McBride have no right to court-appointed counsel, which makes it much easier to pressure them into "mitigation" agreements like the one proposed by the Pima County Attorney's Office.
"An outright return of the vehicle is inappropriate in this case," Deputy County Attorney Kevin Krejci asserted in an August 11 letter to McBride. Instead, "the state offers the following mitigation of forfeiture," Krejci wrote, saying the Jeep "would be released from forfeiture for $1,900.00." But "if we cannot agree on this mitigation, then the state will proceed with a Declaration of Forfeiture." Since Arizona assigns 100 percent of forfeiture proceeds to the law enforcement agencies responsible for the seizure, this proposal is tantamount to demanding a bribe for the return of stolen property.
Arizona, like the federal government, allows owners of seized property to argue that they should get it back because they were unaware that it was being used for illegal purposes. But then the burden is on them to show they "did not know and could not reasonably have known" about that illegal use. In other words, property owners like McBride are presumed guilty unless they can prove otherwise. So much for due process.
The Goldwater Institute also argues that the forfeiture of McBride's Jeep violates the Excessive Fines Clause, which the U.S. Supreme Court last year ruled applies to civil forfeiture cases. McBride says his Jeep is worth about $15,000, or 600 times the value of the marijuana that his girlfriend was accused of selling.
"If the forfeiture of a $15,000 Jeep over $25 worth of marijuana is not excessive," says Goldwater Institute senior attorney Matt Miller, "then it is difficult to imagine what would be." The government presumably will argue that the $15,000 loss is perfectly reasonable given Arizona's draconian penalties for selling small amounts of marijuana, which include a maximum prison term of nearly four years and a maximum fine of $150,000 for amounts less than two pounds.
"In Arizona, as in most states, someone does not need to be convicted of a crime before their property can be forfeited," Miller notes. "Even though forfeiture was meant to be used to target the property of major criminals—like drug kingpins—it is predominantly used against the little guy, even when he has done nothing wrong."
In this case, the little guy is taking a stand against the government's extortion. "Kevin has joined with the Goldwater Institute to inform the government that if they proceed with the forfeiture and take him to court, he will countersue not only get his Jeep back, but also to have Arizona's civil forfeiture scheme declared unconstitutional," Miller says. "If he is successful, it will be a victory for all Arizonans."
[This post has been revised to correct Arizona's maximum prison term for selling small amounts of marijuana.]
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Screw the cops on this. This is wrong. But, my God the girlfriend is a fucking cunt. Thanks a lot babe. Nothing says "love" like borrowing my Jeep to make drug deals.
Assuming this guy didn't know about it, that chick beyond scum.
"Although the charges against her were dropped, the Jeep is still being held as a party to that alleged offense, and McBride has to pay for the privilege of getting his property back."
If he didn't know what she was doing with his Jeep, it seems to me that he should have a legitimate civil case against his girlfriend.
I'm guessing the girlfriend doesn't have anywhere the money to pay for the value of the Jeep. As an aside, McBride should dump the conniving bitch.
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Most likely the narcs were on a fishing expedition soliciting people to "please sell me some weed, I sure could use some weed, please do me a favor and sell me some weed!"
And when the unsuspecting person AGREES to do the worthless piece of shit narc the favor of selling the worthless piece of shit narc some weed, the evil pieces of shit narcs bust the person and seize the person's property, even if no actual sale takes place. Note that this case was dropped for lack of evidence. The victim probably didn't have any weed to sell, likely agreed to get some to sell to the evil pieces of shit narcs, but didn't actually sell any. Hence, the lack of evidence.
Since this case was dropped for lack of evidence, likely the evil pieces of shit narcs were simply trolling for excuses to seize vehicles knowing they couldn't get criminal convictions. The evil pieces of shit narcs should be held personally liable and personally serve sentences for violation of civil rights under color of authority.
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"If he DID OR didn’t know what she was doing with his Jeep,..."
FFS. You do realize with whom he is dealing, do you not?
More likely she had a little weed on her and some guy asked for some outside the store and she sold him some of her own to help out the guy. I the gas money alone prohibits a delivery of $25.00 worth of weed, not to mention the time and hassle.
So you're arguing entrapment? That's an interesting hypothesis. The fact that the charges against her were dropped supports it.
Yet they stole the truck anyway...
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"Yet they stole the truck anyway" -- Perhaps the truck was the target all along and not an arrest for selling marijuana. The truck represents a much bigger profit for the police department.
In civil forfeiture, she did not have to even have a weed on her, or to be charged with anything. The mere suspicion of the officer that the car has been obtained on illegal gains is enough to seize it.
Self medication used to be a right under natural law. Did some one change the law?
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Charges were dropped.
I'm thinking entrapment or a plant or just an outright lie by the fuzz.
Girlfriend didn't do anything wrong. The cops did and now the state is.
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Wait a woman goes behind your back and screws you over? Never.
Oh and Arizonans are dicks. News at 11.
Charges were dropped. There probably was no pot.
Cop likely saw the Jeep and wanted it for his kid so he cooked up a lie and made a fake bust. Now he just has to wait another month for the auction and he can pick it up for $500.
Or the girl is pretty and the cop tried to make a play and got turned down so he cooked up a lie and made a fake bust and felt her up during the arrest.
Charging the boyfriend for the jeep is just gravy for the cop's fragile ego and another way he can punish this girl for turning him down.
Without video AND audio evidence to the contrary, I'll believe either before I believe she was busted for a $25 pot sale.
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You can still but any amount of pot for $25.00?
"buy"
Geeze, Reason. Spend a few bucks and get an edit function. And maybe a spam filter.
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But with free delivery?
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Not with delivery, admittedly. 😉
That's the price of an 1/8th ounce where I live. It's not a lot, but it's not nothing, either.
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May when his girlfriend offered to get him a cold drink from a convenience store.
Beware of girlfriends that do nice things for you...
The cops said McBride's girlfriend had used his Jeep to sell a small amount of marijuana to an undercover officer for $25. Although the charges against her were dropped, the Jeep is still being held as a party to that alleged offense, and McBride has to pay for the privilege of getting his property back.
But on a serious note, this shit has to stop. When there isn't even a crime, that's just theft and extortion. At least when there's a crime you have what at least amounts to a fig-leaf of justification.
Watch out for the other kind too. End Joe Biden's racist Drug War.
That same cop-licking sockpuppet is back--this time cross-dressing in a pussy hat! Is there nothing God's Own Prohibitionists won't stoop to?
The Cops Took This Guy's $15,000 Jeep Because His Girlfriend Allegedly Used It for a $25 Marijuana Sale.
Tucson handyman Kevin McBride was hard at work one Friday last May when his girlfriend offered to get him a cold drink from a convenience store. She took his Jeep, his sole means of transportation and the basis of his livelihood. Then the cops took his Jeep, and local prosecutors are now demanding a $1,900 ransom before he can get it back.
This sort of shakedown would be clearly felonious if ordinary criminals attempted it. But as McBride discovered, it is legal under Arizona's civil asset forfeiture law. The cops said McBride's girlfriend had used his Jeep to sell a small amount of marijuana to an undercover officer for $25. Although the charges against her were dropped, the Jeep is still being held as a party to that alleged offense, and McBride has to pay for the privilege of getting his property back. marketing services
A very shocking article I have seen ever.
But these aren't ordinary criminals we're dealing with.
"...he will countersue not only get his Jeep back, but also to have Arizona's civil forfeiture scheme declared unconstitutional,"
McBride should get a GoFundMe page for the value of the jeep and go straight to the countersuit as a patriotic pursuit for the good of the state. Receive an extorting tyrannical state assault, then counter with a no holds barred nut punch in return.
Seconded. I'd throw $5 in that pot. (HAH!)
I would only support this if there is a serious attempt with a significant chance of success that a prosecutor or DA or politician goes to prison for this and for a long time.
Otherwise, you are just throwing good money after bad.
By doing this you simply raise the value of the kitty. Next the cops will go after the Go Fund Me Money and that too will end up in their pocketses.
Once the charges against McBride's girlfriend were dropped, the vehicle should have been released back to the owner. The notion that an object is involved in criminal activity law enforcement is unwilling to prosecute the person using the object for is nonsense.
Yes. It is. End Joe Biden's racist Drug War.
"The notion that an object is involved in criminal activity law enforcement is unwilling to prosecute the person using the object for is nonsense."
enter the Commiefornia anti gun laws. It's the gun, it's the gun, it's the gun screams Commiefornia democrats who won't prosecute 85% of gun crime b/c the perps are protected black and brown minorities in commiefornia.
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Rip 'em a new one.
End Joe Biden's racist Drug War.
So what? She sold the drugs, which was illegal, and the cops took the Jeep according to state law. Nothing to see here, if they don't like the laws in their state they can either work for change or move to a different state. She effectively got off a drug charge which commonly sends people to prison for a $1,900 donation to the cop party fund. She should be happy she got so lucky. If you don't want consequences, don't violate the law.
...said the authoritarian enabler of injustice.
There is work being done for change. That's what the Goldwater Institute is doing by taking up the case. Your evil, low-IQ "tough shit" attitude doesn't help in making change, either. Would you support that change? If you did, the nature of your comment would be a lot different. It seems to me your just fine with law enforcement extorting the common man to fund their questionable activities.
The whole concept of civil asset forfeiture is based on the assumption that the driver is just an expendable courier, while the drug kingpin is practically unreachable, so forfeiture is an attempt to financially undermine drug operation, rather than prosecute the courier. In this case, it may be that "the common man" is actually the actual big fish.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, or just a slaver in need of being tarred and feathered..
This is exactly what you get if you vote for Republicans or Democrats. Hold your nose.
They dropped the charges, so according to the law she didn't do anything wrong.
Civil asset forfeiture does not require anybody to do anything wrong.
The law is wrong. There's no moral obligation to obey a wrongful law. The narcs should not have been enforcing wrongful laws. As it turned out they didn't have sufficient evidence anyway, likely because they tried to entrap her. The narcs should be prosecuted and imprisoned for violation of civil rights under color of authority.
Funny joke!
I'd love to see the case that strips their "qualified immunity" on this one...
"I've found a case where a woman was arrested and released for selling pot and her jeep was confiscated under asset forfeiture, the charges were dropped and the jeep was ordered returned...."
Yeah, but was it his girlfriend?
"No, it was the wife"
Yeah, case dismissed. The rights have to be clearly defined by prior case law, or else qualified immunity applies.
This is, naturally, the weirdly perverse outcome of the Timbs logic. SCOTUS did not rule on civil asset forfeiture or on due process, but merely that if the criminal asset siezure is excessive relative to the prescribed fine then it is an excessive fine. If no fine is prescribed (as in this case) then there is nothing to compare it to.
They will probably try to argue that any fine in the absence of a legal prescription is excessive, but I'm guessing the court won't like that (after all, executive agencies prescribe their own fines all the time). They might get away with that if it's limited to police takings, but I'm afraid what they'll actually get is assume bs standard like "excessive relative to the alleged criminal activity" which will just encourage police to claim everyone is a kingpin. They should judge the whole thing as a due process violation since it is taken not "forfeited" and a person is thus "deprived of property without due process of law" regardless of nonsense like filing against the car rather than the person. But they won't. They had decades to apply that obvious justice.
Yeah, it is not even close to constitutional. But nobody seems to care about that stuff any more.
You will not hear Biden or Trump talking about asset forfeiture.
There is one other candidate who does. As well as ending the drug war.
Oh, they already did. Trump famously joked about destroying Konni Burton's career for daring to oppose it, and Biden literally sponsored the Comprehensive Forfeiture Act of 1984 (1984 being an apt year for it).
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The fact that the charges were dropped is irrelevant. They might be not filed in the first place, and still the forfeiture would be perfectly legal. The mere suspicion that the property is obtained on illegal gains is enough for the government to seize it. In the same way, if police officer finds $1K cash, he can confiscate it right there without even searching the car, not to mention arrest or any charge.
The car itself is not contraband and once they dropped the charges against her, whether or not a crime occurred can never be determined in a court of law, so the presumption must be innocence.
Heh.. Yeah, right.
Not in civil asset forfeiture. They run it just like an organized crime racket. They extract what they can - and the little guy is the one who gets squeezed.
People who are "unbanked" thanks to reforms pushed through over the last 30 years, particularly under Obama. (you know, people who are also likely to be immigrants or minorities and poor) Sending 5 grand back to your family in Guatemala? Oh, no... we'll just take that for you.
Got in a fight with your boyfriend and the neighbors called the cops? Oh, damn... they found the $15,000 you had under your mattress. You'd have it in the bank, but Obama's "operation choke point" convinced the banks that they shouldn't do business with you because you act in adult films. Oh, well. It's their money now. I guess that makes Uncle Sam your pimp....
Used that money from your lawn care business to buy a nice 2-year-old Lincoln Navigator? The one you always wanted... the one that says, I've made it! Yeah... not in that neighborhood. Cops can take it, and it is up to you to prove that you didn't steal the money, or get it selling drugs. Don't want to fight it in court? Don't have the $43k bond they require? Don't have the attorney's fees? Afraid they might start looking in to your immigration status, even though you've been running a business in this town since 1997?
Yeah.... Presumption of innocence. Right....
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To paraphrase the sub-headline that spews the BS about Biden/Harris vowing to make government even bigger when in fact non-security state spending is at historic modern lows:
'Conservatives spewed law and order demagoguery for decades in order to attract the racist vote, now we all suffer though it.'
What? You Conservative supporting sheeple thought that only "Those People" would be the victims like you did when it came to the decimation of shared prosperity and the middle class at the hands of trickle-down/supply-side Satanomics, aka Conmanitalism that you voted for to, as the confession of the Architect of the Regan Revolution puts it "and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites."
Wow, that is a-historic.
Biden was the champion of the crime bill in the senate in the 90s. You know, the one signed into law by Bill Clinton.
You know, that crime bill that created all those horrible mandatory minimum sentences and all that racial disparity.
You know, the one that Trump just pushed through a big reform bill to help correct?
This comments section seems to have specialized in idiotic partisan trolls - but that one takes the cake. Holy crap, is that stupid.
I think this context indicates one of many corrupt actions that is inevitable with a prohibition of recreational drugs.
We know from the context of 1920s alcohol prohibition that prohibiting a drug that people want to consume creates contexts of massive exploitation and corruption. It also creates highly unfair and illogical laws like this one.
Prohibition could even be said to turn police officers into criminals as it does here with the extortion that the article points out would be illegal in any other context and is clearly ethically and morally wrong but makes sense to law enforement, but that is because they are used to the laws of drug prohibition that do not actually make sense.
Voting for anyone is risky and passing legislation that financially rewards police for seizing via civil asset forfeiture is clearly a known loser for the people. It encourages civil asset forfeiture to enrich the police. I wonder how many times I will write in my name on ballots this fall? Voting for a Trump or a Biden is sick.
We should start framing politicians with drug possession crimes and seizing their assets. That would motivate them to change these laws.
Serious question:
How have a bunch of prosecutor's houses not been burned to the ground in this country?
I mean, I get that they are "just representing their client's interests" and it is the legislature that created the ludicrous laws that they are using to extort money, but the prosecutor is the one who claims that returning his jeep is not appropriate without a payment of nearly 2 grand. That's 100% in his discretion.
Yet we have not heard of prosecutor's homes suspiciously bursting into flames all across the nation.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. I had a prosecutor treat me in a similar manner (if in a much smaller way). He knew I was not guilty of a traffic offense I was accused of, but instead of dropping the case he offered to drop it if I agreed to pay a civil penalty of $110. It was extortion, plain and simple. He knew that taking off another day from work to return to court for trial would cost me way more than $110. And I'd need a lawyer for that if I wanted any hope of winning. So by demanding $110, he was basically saying "I can easily cost you the better part of $1,000 if you don't pay me $110 now."
5 years earlier I would have been a student, and I would have extracted every ounce of pain from the judiciary that I was able to out of sheer spite for the injustice. But having a job and responsibilities and not having a huge stack of cash to pay someone else to handle it for me.... I caved in and cut the check.
But I know a lot of guys who are way less level-headed than I am.
So why didn't the cops confiscate his bank account too? The $25 must've been stashed somewhere before it was exchanged for Satan's plant leaves. Herbert Hoover and George Bush republicans would've seized the entire bank until depositor innocence could be proven. Whenever depositors decide to remove their money from the local danger of looter confiscation, that fractional-reserve leveraged multiplier kicks in. With any luck the entire state once proud of Justice O'Connor could bankrupt itself to please the initiation of force. Classy!