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Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin Charged With Murder of George Floyd

Riots have raged in the city in response to Floyd's death.

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Officer Derek Chauvin was arrested Friday afternoon on charges of third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd, who Chauvin killed on Monday.

Floyd, who was arrested on suspicion of check forgery, died after Chauvin held his knee to the man's neck for nearly eight minutes while Floyd begged for mercy, repeatedly saying "I can't breathe." The incident was captured on video.

Chauvin has since been fired, along with the three other officers on scene. The U.S. Department of Justice has announced it will initiate a civil rights investigation into the killing.

Floyd's death has rightly prompted a lot of anger. That anger, in turn, has manifested itself both in peaceful protests and in rioting. Videos show a Target being looted, an Autozone set on fire, and several local businesses robbed and set ablaze. Rory Purnell rushed to his barber shop on Thursday night to let would-be looters know that it was run by an African American. He was too late, with one of his windows already smashed in.

A Minneapolis police building was also torched, with Mayor Jacob Frey eventually ordering officers to stand down from that precinct. "The symbolism of a building cannot outweigh the importance of life," he said at a press conference.

As Reason's Christian Britschgi wrote yesterday, armed civilians wound up fending off rioters at one tobacco shop. "That these four amateurs were able to protect this one business raises the question of why the city's more numerous and better equipped professional police weren't able to protect other businesses in a similar fashion," he wrote. Instead, we've seen some cops firing rubber bullets from a rooftop and others defending the aforementioned burning precinct with tear gas and flash bang grenades.

At a peaceful protest downtown, apparently devoid of any such looting, a video shows an officer spraying pepper spray into the crowd from a moving vehicle, where he or she surely faced no imminent danger. Other officers arrested three journalists for reporting on the protests.

President Donald Trump weighed in early Friday morning. "These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won't let that happen," he said. "Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts," he added, in a tweet that has since been flagged by Twitter as violating rules on "glorifying violence." 

The president later said that he was not calling for anyone to be shot but rather meant that violence begets violence. "Looting leads to shooting, and that's why a man was shot and killed in Minneapolis on Wednesday night," he tweeted, referring to Calvin L. Horton Jr., who was shot outside of a looted Minneapolis pawn shop by the store's owner, John Rieple. He is in jail awaiting possible murder charges.

The riots have been condemned by others across the political aisle. "We should and must protest peacefully," tweeted Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.), whose district includes all of Minneapolis. "But let us end the cycle of violence now."

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  1. //Riots have raged in the city in response to Floyd’s death.//

    Really? Is that why? One gets the impression that the riots raged because a fairly large number of people decided to loot private businesses and steal things that don’t belong to them.

    Responsibility? Agency? Nope. Automatons.

    1. The irony is that these riots probably would never have gotten off the ground if it weren’t for the lockdowns. There’s a reason why the CCC put young men to work during the Great Depression. The longer the lockdowns stretch out, the more they look like they’re going to be interminable, the more the likelihood of civil unrest rises from a possibility to an inevitability. Right now there are literally millions of young people in this country with entirely too much time on their hands. Blue-collar workers are out of work, many facing mounting debt and eviction, while students aren’t in class. Eventually they were going to find an excuse to vent their spleen. The killing of Floyd just happened to be the flashpoint they seized upon. There are reports coming out of Minneapolis that the riots were incited and lead by professional agitators from out of state. Whether or not that’s true, it’s undeniable that the situation was a tinderbox just waiting to explode.

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      2. I agree. I think the lockdowns are the problem and the murder of Floyd was the catalyst. I wanted to attend a local protest against Pritzger’s bullshit but I have to work and couldn’t schedule it. A lot of people can’t work, have been deemed “non essential”, know they are likely to be harassed by the mask police if they leave the house and getting pretty pissed off. We’ve seen these riots before following police killings and there will always a percentage of the population that will become violent if the opportunity presents itself. But if these governors don’t get their knees off of our collective throats there will be more catalysts and more riots. Gonna be a long hot summer.

        1. Have always thought that is why there is so much more violence in middle eastern countries. Every time they get a little upset about something it turns into a full scale riot. My theory is that most of the 15 to 35 year olds don’t have jobs, other than oil what do they make we can buy here…the only country that has a sizable industrial base is Iran and this is mostly military equipment. If you have to go to work you don’t have time to riot.

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        2. The lockdowns had nothing to do with it, these are the usual suspects who take advantage of whatever excuse is handy to rape, pillage and burn. I don’t actually hearing anyone marching peacefully calling for investigation and trials for wrongdoing, what I see is people committing criminal acts and calling for lynchings. There is no justification for burning, vandalizing and robbing businesses that had nothing to do with this, some of which are owned by black people. There’s no justification for burning a police station and endangering the lives of cops who had nothing to do with this, some of whom are black and live here. This is a lynch mob, not a protest.

          1. As Dr MLK said: “Riots are the voices of the unheard!” Marching and praying has gotten black people no where while they are preyed upon by cops and the systemic white racist system. There is full justification for burning the place down and the police station being that over 400 Black people have been killed by police since January. Fuck the cops….they are all complict and condone this sort of behaviot from their cohorts. No such thing as a good cop as long as they stand by and allow their fellow cops to commit crimes like this, they too are guilty of the crime. The only reason the cop is now in jail is because people rioted, other than that he skates. Furthermore they already have the fix in to acquit him of manslaughter charges they lumped on him which carry a lighter sentence….BUT HEY, A RACIST LIKE YOU DOES’NT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF YOUR HATRED FOR BLACK PEOPLE——FOH INBRED RACIST

            1. The quote is apparently “riots are the language of the unheard”, and I don’t think it the most insightful statement made by Dr. Martin Luther King. Language is language; violent aggression is physical action – it’s often destructive, and it discourages or prevents constructive dialog. There are ample ways for people to be heard, and the most effective ones in modern America don’t require violence. The outcome of this case is unlikely to be affected much by the riots, but the damage done to the community will persist, as will mistrust in the police that serve the community. I don’t understand what useful function is served by burning businesses, especially small local ones, especially in what some might consider a disadvantaged community. It will simply serve to reduce employment opportunities, discourage investment, raise insurance rates and depress property values. A riot is simply an excuse for people to exercise violence; the reason cited – whatever it might be – is ad hoc justification.

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          2. Burning a police station and endangering lives of cops is always justified.
            “The whole good cop/bad cop question can be disposed of much more decisively. We need not enumerate what proportion of cops appears to be good or listen to someone’s anecdote about his Uncle Charlie, an allegedly good cop. We need only consider the following: (1) a cop’s job is to enforce the laws, all of them; (2) many of the laws are manifestly unjust, and some are even cruel and wicked; (3) therefore every cop has agreed to act as an enforcer for laws that are manifestly unjust or even cruel and wicked. There are no good cops.” ~Robert Higgs
            “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

            1. While I’m not going to say it’s justified, trashing police stations is not entirely without merit. The vast majority of police officers have at least enabled the type of behavior exhibited by Chauvin, if not been accessories, by keeping their mouths shut when they see officers acting inappropriately. And we all know it’s virtually all of them. Normally you’d want this dealt with via normal, non-violent channels, but decades of abuse have shown that doesn’t work. Sometimes it takes throwing tea in the harbor to get a point across.

              1. //The vast majority of police officers have at least enabled the type of behavior exhibited by Chauvin, if not been accessories, by keeping their mouths shut when they see officers acting inappropriately. And we all know it’s virtually all of them.//

                Well, that settles it then.

                Ridiculous.

          3. Burning the police station is fine.
            Burning everything else is bullshit

        3. The problem(s) that caused these riots to erupt existed well before the Covid-19 related lockdowns, and so have the kind of eruptions that existed this past Thursday night in Minneapolis, MN and a number of other cities across the United States. Granted, the Covid-19 pandemic and the resulting lockdowns may have helped to make these already-existing problems worse, but that doesn’t justify the killing of a person by a police officer who had sworn to uphold the law and protect the people, and therefore grossly abuses his/her power.

        4. Clearly the lockdowns are the problem. It’s ridiculous to imagine that these endless outrages by police have anything to do with it.
          Personally, I’m enjoying it and can’t understand the complainers, but there must be something wrong with me.

      3. Maybe when Biden becomes prez he’ll bring back the CCC only this time the Democrats will let black men work alongside whites.

        href=”https://thecivilianconservationcorps.weebly.com/integration–segregation.html”>In 1935 segregated CCC camps were created, war veterans, whites, and African Americans would all be placed in separate, but equal, camps. As a result less effort was made to enroll African Americans into the program and applications made by African Americans were sometimes rejected in favor of white applicants.

        While the CCC was largely a boondoggle, it did defuse a lot of the tension that having unemployed young men crowded in cities was generating. It also resulted in some kinda neat stuff (eg a lot of the Appalachian Trail) getting built but good luck with any of them getting EPA approval these days. 🙂

        1. The CCC was created for the benefit of whites. Blacks did not benefit from it….but of course a white person would deny the racism behind the program which was to employ and uplift whites only….You and Biden, with his condescending racist attitude both can jump in the river

          1. You didn’t actually read my comment, did you? Lot of that here.

            Didn’t bother to go to the linked site either? I know I screwed it up but it was there for you to cut and paste.

          2. Your reading comprehension skills show how inappropriate your handle is.

      4. The sort of people who are rioting would have done so anyway. They see an opportunity to riot and steal stuff they take it. Nobody is doing this because they’re poor, they’re doing it because they are criminals at heart. Nobody is doing it because they’re really angry at police violence, otherwise it would be about attacking the police, and it generally isn’t.

      5. Frankly, if one really looks at the whole history of the United States, and past riots that have occurred without the lockdowns, the riots that erupted in Minneapolis, MN and other places here in the USA have nothing whatsoever to so with the lockdowns. The unnecessary killings of people by police, especially blacks and other non-whites, have been going on for ages, and the situation hasn’t gotten any better.

  2. Fortunately for us, noted political pundit Taylor Swift has blamed it all on Trump.

    Taylor, I loved Red, but we are never ever getting back together. Like ever.

    1. Looks like there is some Bad Blood between Taylor and Trump. I wish one of them would fill in the Blank Spaces that resulted in the riff between them. It would be one of my Wildest Dreams if they were able to resolve their personal conflicts.

    2. Everybody keeps leaving out her middle name, “Notso”.

    3. Why you gotta be so… meeeaaannn.

  3. Way to go Billy, post a picture of a black man in white face to stoke the flames of racism… for shame.

    1. This had me laughing out loud. Well done, sir.

      1. diito

    2. Dave Chappelle’s race skits on Comedy Central probably did more to improve race relations that 8 years of Obama or 80 years of the NAACP.

      1. Absolutely correct

        1. Agreed.

          1. Which is probably why he’s now on the outs with all of them.

    3. yeah funny.

  4. “Rory Purnell rushed to his barber shop on Thursday night to let would-be looters know that it was run by an African American. He was too late, with one of his windows already smashed in.”

    You mean he wanted to warn the looters that looting was wrong and that he meant to defend his livelihood?

    1. I hope he was still able to direct the looters to the Asian owned barber shops that offer haircuts at lower prices.

      1. Meanwhile assholes are sniffing on Twitter that these business owners should have insured themselves better:

        Statehood for DC and PR! Abolish the filibuster! @bayofarizona · 44m

        Replying to @JackieCrosby
        and @StevenTDennis
        Amazing none of them purchased insurance.

        Less avocado toast might have helped

        1. If only Trump had called them Terrorist instead of Thugs, they would be insured*. Why won’t Trump use the term!!!!!

          *under the Terrorism Insurance Act, I think most companies were forced to get it. I know my company is covered.

          1. …but the conflict in the Middle East is a pre-existing condition, so sorry.

            1. Damn insurance companies and their fine print.

      2. What about the white rioters who burned down Black wall Street in Tulsa and destroyed the Black town in Florida etc….

        1. It was horrible, but it was almost a century ago. What has that got to do with recent events?

  5. The president later said that he was not calling for anyone to be shot but rather meant that violence begets violence.

    Yeah, no shit, you dumbass. The cops killed some guy just for shits and giggles and now you’ve got pissed-off and fed-up people rioting. Violence begat violence, and now you’re going to use that retaliatory violence as an excuse to stick your dick in the hornet’s nest. How about if you quit licking cop badge long enough to tell them to quit killing people? And you’re retarded if you think this is about 1 cop and 1 dead guy – there were 4 cops there, being filmed and yelled at and yet even knowing this was all being recorded they still went ahead and killed the guy right in front of God and everybody. You think this was 1 psycho cop and three indifferent cops? No, this is an institutional matter, those cops and all the rest of them have been taught that they are above the law and they can kill whomever they please for whatever reason they please and nothing’s going to happen to them. You’d think Trump of all people might be sensitive to the issue of people doing the most god-awful criminal acts imaginable on the grounds that the laws don’t apply to them.

    1. Trump sensitive to it? This is the same guy that called for the Central Park 5 to be put to death and refused to go back on it after they were exonerated. Same guy who in concert with his father put “c” to denote people of color applying for an apartment.

      He’s a racist and probably sees nothing wrong whatsoever with this. Moreover, he sees fit to break whatever rules/laws/ethics/norms he wants as it is. The last person on the planet I’d expect to be sensitive to it is that shitstain.

      1. “The Central Park 5 were exonerated”

        Lol

      2. Yet you’ll probably go out and vote for Biden who’s had far more influence creating and supporting crime laws that put blacks in jail for petty crimes and while VP supported droning innocent brown people in the Middle East. But yeah trumps the real problem here. You’re so fucking stupid you probably thought it was trumps fault during Ferguson too

      3. “Same guy who in concert with his father put “c” to denote people of color applying for an apartment.”

        If this is true, it’s because New York City housing regulations required it.

        Yes, Trump’s father and grandfather built housing for both whites and blacks in NTC and, yes, it was segregated because the [Tammany Hall dominated] NYC government required separate housing for the races.

        Some people remember Trump’s grandfather fondly as one of the first people who built decent housing for blacks.

      4. “Same guy who in concert with his father put “c” to denote people of color applying for an apartment.”

        so you’re upset that people who trade on being “people of color” were given what they want?

      5. “This is the same guy that called for the Central Park 5 to be put to death”
        No he didn’t. He called for the death penalty to be used against murderers, and the Central Park 5 are rapists. And yes they’re rapists, they confessed in non-coerced confessions, one of them before the cops even knew about the attack.

    2. Interesting, if unhinged, rant

    3. Trump has a raging hardon for men in uniforms. He just can’t help it. One of his many personality disorders. Still the best president in my lifetime.

      1. or he’s pretending because they have a lot of guns that can be pointed at him.

      2. He and many ordinary Americans have that hard on. But the LEO reactions to lockdown infractions, along with Floyd being murdered on national TV, just may change some minds.

      3. He did do the military boarding school thing no?

    4. Still no excuse to violate private property.
      There is a proper way to express your points.

      1. The destruction of people’s property in response to George Floyd’s killing was not right, but it was somewhat understandable, given the fact that many people feel that they can’t get justice.

        1. Irrational actions do seem to lead to more irrational actions, don’t they?

  6. Jackie Crosby @JackieCrosby · 1h
    Century-old Lloyd’s Pharmacy just rubble. One of 170 businesses lost in St Paul

    Click on the link to see the picture. Lloyd’s was one of the few compounding pharmacies around. Completely obliterated. This is so infuriating.

    1. Compounding pharmacies are a great resource. We need more not less.

    2. Domino effect. What did the initial domino look like?

  7. “Other officers arrested three journalists for reporting on the protests.”

    Or, just possibly, they were arrested for failing to obey a awful order to disperse?
    Besides, they were not journalists; they work for CNN.

    1. I’m sorry but the five branches of government include the executive, legislative, judicial, corporate media (e.g. CNN, New York Times), and Ivy League professors (e.g. Paul Krugman).

      1. You’re getting better at this all the time.

      2. no Eurotrash?

        1. BBC, The Daily Mail, Der Spiegel, Haaretz?

  8. Why was Screech shitting up Dalmias thread with his AmSoc?

    1. My guess is that most people skip the Dalmia articles and that is his time to shine.

      1. ok that actually makes sense

        1. Don’t worry, I scared him off for now.

          1. I’m sorry, I scared Xer off for now.

  9. Former presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar is taking heat in some circles for failure to prosecute police during her time as a Hennepin County Attorney in Minnesota in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

    One of the officers who killed Floyd, an unarmed black man, on Monday in Minneapolis fatally shot a suspect in 2006 but was not prosecuted.

    Derek Chauvin was one of six cops who shot and killed Wayne Reyes in October 2006 following a car chase, according to watchdog group Communities United Against Police Brutality. All officers involved said that Reyes had pulled a shotgun after stabbing two people prior to the chase.

    If this blows up nationwide, I wonder if Biden will rethink his interest in bringing on Klobuchar as his running mate.

    1. That case seems a bit less clear cut than choking a prone man, but what do I know? I lack even the temptation to support Klubooger, so it’s not as if I need to concoct extra reasons to oppose her.

    2. Well that leaves us with Whitmer. Until the Detroit riots begin.

  10. “I jog with Ahmaud” event tonight at midnight in Minneapolis at midnight. Bring Timberlands and a hammer.

    1. But how can you hammer in the morning and in the evening if it’s midnight?

      1. Ask Leonard Nemoy.

      2. Hammer once at 11:59:59 and once at 12:00:01

    2. Always nice when the scum of the earth advertise it proudly (and by that I mean you- wanted to clarify given your evidently low IQ.)

      1. ahahaha look at you cry like a bitch ahahahaa

  11. so let’s all wash our faces with milk?

    1. doesn’t work

      1. lol. what is that dude doing?

        1. i think you were right its milk, but it doesnt help

          1. i’d make a bleach joke but i’m not that kind of guy.

            1. Milk, huh? That’s not the first thing I saw. There’s probably something wrong with me.

              1. probably lol.

        2. Protesters think it helps w pepper spray.

          1. i mean, it does because it is cold liquid, but thats all

            1. I agree. Protestors generally arent smart. But that is why the milk.

            2. No, that’s not all. Capsaicin, the active ingredient in in pepper spray is fat soluble.

              Does Milk Help With Spicy Food?

          2. doesn’t work when you eat them either.

          3. Milk is generally basic, and can help to neutralize certain acid-based irritants, like capsaicin, which is what gives peppers their flavor and also makes pepper spray work. Capsaicin is an oil-like molecule and water doesn’t have much of an effect on it, but since milk is a suspension of a lot of oil / fat particles in solution, it can help wash it away.

            https://www.usdairy.com/news-articles/does-milk-help-with-spicy-food

  12. Charging with murder and not just manslaughter is dumb and can be construed as attempting to get him off without jail time. Murder requires intent. Good luck proving it

    1. You’re right, but good luck mansplaining the law to an angry arson mob.

      1. if you’ll all put your torches down I’ll explain how there will never be a trial.

    2. They charged him with both. RTFM.

      1. For fuck sakes dumbass. I read the article. The tacking on of murder comes across badly to a jury dumbfuck. Once a prosecutor loses one charge it tends to avalanche from there.

        How are some of you so fucking dumb.

        I didnt say manslaughter wasnt warranted idiot.

    3. Minnesota has 3rd degree murder. That just requires a intent harm.

    4. Murder requires intent. Good luck proving it
      Holy shit, no one even knows the cause of death. Yet, they’re certain he died from what this cop did, that I’ll bet he’s done to lots of people – both of color and of pallor.
      They’ve got to get over that hurdle, first.

    5. Posted this in an earlier thread.

      First degree requires intent.

      609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
      (a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

      Pinning someone to the ground by placing your knee directly on his neck, causing that person to display serious distress, then continuing to do so even after summoning EMS seems to fit that bill.

    6. Not only that but note that his actual arrest comes only after the “inconclusive” autopsy was released (which conveniently leaves the door open just enough for him to squeak out an acquittal by th the thinnest of margins) so they can still have his show trial and when he gets off and works somewhere else next year, they can all say “see at least we tried to hold them accountable.”

      1. Inconclusive to me means that if not for the actions of the cop he most certainly would not be dead.

  13. So who has watched the full 8 minute video? It’s legitimately horrifying. There’s a point, not too long before Floyd passes out, where he starts screaming, “Mama! Mama!” He was also screaming things like, “They gonna kill me!” And there’s three fucking police officers standing around to ensure that not a soul could reach George Floyd to help him.

    Charge the other three as accessories. We could learn today that Floyd died due to a combination of a drug overdose and the physical exertion of struggling with the cops and it would change nothing, the callous disregard for life is horrifying.

    1. I agree the dude was basically executed. However, the issue right now is how to keep the rest of the city safe from rioters who are happily doling out injustice the same way the those cops did. I don’t know what would stop this quickly short of forgoing a trial and staging a public execution of all of these officers. I would like to think that this will make the media think twice about forcing literally every story in to a racial narrative, but I’m just not that naive anymore.

      1. I don’t see how the city dealing with angry mobs prevents a DA from charging murderers.

    2. I did. And I was horrified. Not just saying that. But I am straight up horrified that a police officer in 2020 America can murder a man while fellow LEOs stand there and do nothing. And this happens more often than we care to admit.

      And BTW, the bystanders who were witnesses did nothing but scream, either. Had one person stepped out and banged on the truck of the police car, would that have changed anything? We will never know the answer. But I do know that if I am ever in that situation, I will not stand by and just watch. I will step out, bang on the trunk of the car and ask to be arrested…something, anything to disrupt the actions of the officer murdering someone, even if for a few seconds to buy time for everyone to think. That was missing here.

      In my worldview it works like this: strike for strike, blow for blow, and life for life. This police officer murdered this man; he deserves death.

      1. I don’t think that the police officer who murdered George Floyd deserves death, because, when the state executes a murderer, it’s putting itself down to the same level of brutality, if one gets the drift. The cop who killed George Floyd deserves jail time.

  14. This isn’t protests or rioting…let’s call it what it is…..ghetto shopping.

  15. Bookstores and shops selling work boots were unscathed.

  16. The actions of these police who kill black people like a majority of the comments here indicate why segregation works. We have been trying to achieve equality for 244 years now. 2020 minus 1776.

    Yet well nourished white police with 18 complaints of rudeness and excessive force still think a black mans neck is a resting place their knees. The calloused deliberate indifference here is amazing.

    It’s hoped this former cop upon conviction get the maximum sentence which I hope he serves in the prison general population. Let’s hope Trump is not reelected to commute or pardon his conviction.

    1. //The actions of these police who kill black people like a majority of the comments here indicate why segregation works.//

      Where do we sign up for the race war?

    2. You mean the Trump who has started the criminal justice reform process? You’re so fucking stupid.

  17. “At a peaceful protest downtown, apparently devoid of any such looting, a video shows an officer spraying pepper spray into the crowd from a moving vehicle, where he or she surely faced no imminent danger.”

    Have you never been to a protest? This is the usual game: pepper spray the people who protest peacefully, and don’t interfere with anyone breaking windows… which will of course soon include some of the people who were peacefully protesting and got sprayed, no matter what organizers (if you can even have an “organizer” in a situation like this) encourage. And all the attention — including your attention in this article — goes to the inevitable broken window, or since we’re dealing with flat out murder by 4 cooperating police officers this time buildings will be allowed to burn, to pull attention from the real story.

    1. “…buildings will be allowed to burn,…”

      Ah, yes, because buildings just want to burn if left to their own devices. Cops fault, for sure.

  18. “Officer Chauvin … kneeled on his neck … until he died…”

    Sounds like murder. But since their is no court case on record where a police officer was found liable for violating a person named Greg’s constitutional rights by kneeling on his neck until he died I guess Chauvin can count on qualified immunity when the family sues him.

  19. The charges brought against this cop are perhaps minimal, but certainly appropriate. Given the foregoing, which reflect my own opinion, one wonders as to the final outcome of a local trial.

  20. “Violence begets violence. Looting leads to shooting..”? What does suffocating a man to death lead to?

    1. We don’t know. The medical examiner has found that he was not suffocated to death. Oops.

  21. A man in jail for defending his property and livelihood from a person violently attacking it, and therefore him?

    In many localities, prisoners are being released and the few persons currently being arrested are not being incarcerated.

    Perhaps we should all simply start looting?

    1. Works for Antifa.

      The fact law enforcement did jack shit about them likely added to the mess (even though riots of this sorts have been around long before Antifa thugs) since people probably know they’ll mostly get away with it.

      Idiot Mayors fail to protect their citizens and in fact often side with the mob as Twitter did in their punk spat with Trump.

  22. Astonishing that a bunch of self-styled “libertarians” are less concerned about the police murder of an unarmed, HANDCUFFED individual than they are about outraged citizens setting fire to a police station. Fuck alla y’all.

    1. You don’t know who is less or more concerned about what. Interesting how you left out the outrage over the destruction of private businesses.

    2. Yes, because burning Wendy’s down is productive and makes a point in the name of justice.

      Nihilism isn’t justice.

    3. Most of the libertarians here who have commented on the burning of the police precinct station seem to think that of all the buildings looted or burned, that one was the only arguably legitimate target.

      1. If they had to choose something to burn down that’s the one.

        Taking down a barber shop is retarded and serves no justice.

  23. You’re right it’s ridiculous. You can’t possibly think that both murder by agents of the state and angry mobs roaming through a city indiscriminately destroying private property are both really bad things. I probably wouldn’t care much if they only burned down a police station. They have now burned down a housing complex, a police station several private businesses and countless private vehicles. They’ve also defaced untold amounts of property and there’s not a snowballs chance in hell that dozens of people will end up hospitalized and at least one other person is murdered when this is over. You’re right. The mob is certainly doling out true justice specifically targeted at the perpetrators of the murder. We’re being silly to be concerned about all that other stuff. Have you ever considered having an honest conversation?

  24. So much for the omnipresent police state theories. Big Brother, blah, blah, blah. What I’m seeing within these uprisings, protests, lootings and riots is the sovereign body affirming who’s really in charge.

    Authority as we know it crossed a rubicon; it picked the systemic wound of racial disparity once too often. The bully stepped over the symbolic line of consensual, permissible control.

    The cops got got.

    Yea, we’ve got another black man wasted, cities ablaze and rage run wild. It ain’t pretty. But the real outrage ain’t just that- rather it is or ought to be that the mother fuckers who induce and crystallize these ugly conditions aren’t reduced to ashes on a weekly basis.

    Just to remind them who’s really running the show.

  25. Jack Dorsey is a punk ass coward.

    What a clown.

  26. WHY ISN’T ANYONE SOCIAL DISTANCING OR WEARING MASKS?!?! WHY AREN’T COPS STOPPING THEM?!

  27. So who’s coordinating these riots?

  28. Thank God , they hear the voice of the police, please this have to stop.

  29. I wonder if there will be riots when ANTIFA and civil rights groups figure out that more blacks are killed by other blacks than any other type of homicide? Ya think? No excuse for unnecessary police violence, but if black lives matter why not protest black-on-black homicides.

    1. Plenty of people in the black communities throughout the United States do protest against black-on-black crime. You just don’t here about it.

  30. I did see a preliminary autopsy report that showed serious cardiovascular issues longstanding in the body of the deceased. Toxicology was not yet completed.
    He was lying on his stomach, prone, hands cuffed behind his back. NO sign of asphyxiation in the deceased, thus the copper’s knee did NOT cut off oxygen or blood

    Tnis is beginning to appear as though it may be another angelic choirboy played outside his league and lost, or perhaps another “Hand Up Don’t Shoot” rerun.

    As always, not wise to jump to confusions until a whole lot more facts are known.

    Not saying the copper is blamless… we now know that Freddy Gray, died of natural causes based on his own extremely poor health as he was accosted for selling single cigarettes on the sidewalk. Is that a capital crime? Of COURSE not. Should be no crime at all, That is just NYC enslaving her own to their ridiculous punitive tax habit.
    But, the copper had signed up to enforce the laws on the books.. which make selling loosie cigs illegal. Should this be so> Absolutely not. But until the corrupt government of NYC change, more may be at risk.

    Ini this case, however, passing bad funds (I’ve read both conterfeit currency and bad checks) led to his arrest, a just and legitimate arrest. It may well be his own poor health and/or ilicit substances in his system are the proximal causes of his death.

    One thing is certain… had he NOT been stealing by means of funny money of whatever flavour he was proffering, he kay be alive yet. Unless he had OD’d and the damage had not yet kicked in. In that case, the copper had as much to do with his death than I had.. and I live three thousand miles away.

    1. You actually said “copper”?! Did you just arrive ina time machine? Regardless of how you arrived here I could wonder how you arrived at your conclusions which are failed veiled stupidity. Are you commenters all Libertarians? If so I say “Good luck with that”.
      It is refreshing to read all pontificating using new hipster slang and know there is a whole new generation that has no concept of Rights, violating Rights, who is supposed to protect those Rights, and how can Rights be taken away or disregarded. A guy cannot even smoke a cigarette anymore without the do-gooders going into the fake cough chorus. There are a few who still have not gotten the word that “Protect and Serve” was just a made up motto not a job description. And I am quite sure that no police training manual demonstrates the knee-to-neck restraining technique used for stopping handcuffed face down bad check writing alleged criminals from doing further damage to the community with a ball-point pen. The other officers were there only to observe what violating Rights looks like in case it should ever happen for real. Let this be a lesson that if you are going to take on a police force be sure to get a physical and train a little bit. If you die because you cannot take a bit of rough-housing and die it is nobody’s fault but yours.
      By the same logic that the copsucker tionico employs I assert the officer in question was acting in self-defense because he has had altercations with niggers before. That just comes with the territory of being a cop, they all are racist, someone has to be so why not every cop in the land? Yes it was heartbreaking to see the sacred AutoZone burn but it stood longer that any housing project that the government put up and tore down. It is all someone else’s fault. The racism libertarians are spouting spewing and spitting out must make REASON proud as can be. Meanwhile the FBI is killing citizens somewhere because they looked at the agents wrong and somehow Trump caused it all. Ya’ll make Hells Angels look like amateur choirboys. Watch yer step, your last one will be a doozy.

  31. Shop owner shoots a looter outside and goes to jail immediately? 1. What happened to “no rush to judgement”? 2. This ignorant owner should have pulled him back onto his property. Or, did he know that and forgot under duress? Either way, self-defense means keeping informed and thinking under pressure. If you are too lazy to research and too emotional to keep your head about you, best hire someone to defend you.

    1. You are a complete idiot, the whole set, complete.

  32. I was 8 minutes and 45 seconds. That’s almost 9 minutes. Do you know how long that is to strangle someone to death? A looong time!

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