Coronavirus

Don't Let Temporary COVID-19 Restrictions Become Permanent

Emergency restrictions should always be lifted as soon as the crisis has sufficiently abated.

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State and local officials are now taking sweeping emergency actions to combat the spread of COVID-19, including shelter-in-place orders, bans on large gatherings, and widespread business closures. Such measures are occurring as part of the traditional police powers of the states to regulate on behalf of public health, safety, and welfare. But even the most necessary of emergency actions may still pose a significant risk to liberty. That is why emergency restrictions should always be lifted as soon as the crisis has sufficiently abated.

The U.S. experience during World War I offers a cautionary tale about how government restrictions passed in the heat of a national emergency can linger around for years afterward.

When President Woodrow Wilson took the nation to war against Germany in 1917 he did so in the name of making the world safe for democracy. But the president also targeted certain enemies much closer to home. "There are citizens of the United States, I blush to admit," Wilson said, "who have poured the poison of disloyalty into the very arteries of our national life…The hand of our power should close over them at once."

The hand of power struck. At Wilson's urging, Congress passed the Espionage Act of 1917, a notorious law that effectively criminalized most forms of anti-war speech. Among those snared in its net was the left-wing leader Eugene Debs, who was arrested and sentenced under the Espionage Act in 1918 to 10 years in federal prison after exercising his First Amendment rights by giving a mildly anti-war speech at an afternoon picnic. In 1919, the same year that the U.S. government signed the peace treaty that formally ended World War I, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld Debs' conviction for speaking out against the war. Debs would continue to rot in federal prison until he was finally pardoned by President Warren G. Harding. As for the Espionage Act, it has been amended several times over the years and still remains on the books.

State governments imposed various restrictions of their own. Nebraska's legislature responded to America's entry into the Great War by cracking down on the civil liberties of its German immigrant communities. Most notably, the state banned both public and private school teachers from instructing children in a foreign language. The target of that law was the state's extensive system of Lutheran parochial schools, where teachers and students commonly spoke German.

Robert Meyer, who taught the Bible in German at the Zion Evangelical Lutheran Parochial School, filed suit against the state for violating his constitutional rights. But the Nebraska Supreme Court waved his arguments away. "The salutary purpose of the statute is clear," that court said. "The legislature had seen the baleful effects of permitting foreigners, who had taken residence in this country, to rear and educate their children in the language of their native land."

The U.S. Supreme Court reversed that ruling in 1923. Thankfully, the rights of Meyer and others were ultimately restored. But once again, the offending restriction was not eliminated until well after the war was over.

We should all be on guard to make sure that temporary COVID-19 restrictions—as necessary as they may be—remain temporary.

Related: "Police Powers During a Pandemic: Constitutional, but Not Unlimited."

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  1. Well this can’t continue as we are going to all be dirt farmers if they keep this up. Also it would be nice if someone, anyone could give me what a metric for success for this bug looks like besides a hashtag.

    1. The metric is we let it runs its course. That’s probably another two or three weeks, sad to say. I think the government response has been too late and an overreaction, but the danger is real.

      And it is an overreaction. On a scale of one to ten, we needed a six, but the government gave us a nine. Thankfully I am considered “essential”, but very few of my friends are. Their jobs and businesses have been officially declared illegal.

      1. If were overreacting then why did India just today decide to shut down the entire country for three weeks. Same thing in the UK, France and Germany. Does it occur to you that you don’t know wtf you’re talking about?

        1. Ooh, let’s trust government, they haven’t led us astray before!

        2. Throw MAGA into the Woodchipper
          March.24.2020 at 1:28 pm

          “Yes, mom, if my friends jumped off a cliff then I would too.”

        3. “If were overreacting then why did India just today decide to shut down the entire country for three weeks.”

          Because over-reacting ain’t just a river in Egypt.

          1. Which also just placed the whole country on lockdown.
            Though, to be fair, I’m not sure that’s any different than status quo there

        4. You’re talking about a country of hyper-dense urban areas where people shit in the street.

          Oh wait, that’s just like our modern Democrat-run cities, isn’t it?

          1. So odd that Seattle and the surrounding area is one of the hotter zones…then again, maybe not

            1. Seattle and NYC seem to be outliers in the US.
              Hmm…

              1. International flights. I bet the disease spread from those international flyers. Notice that some countries didnt have traitor media and Lefties who prevented quarantine of travelers from China. Those countries (South Korea) have mitigated new outbreaks and deaths.

                Unless it was a deliberate biological warfare attack but this is a lame virus to unleash compared to what bugs some countries have frozen.

              2. I live in NH (near Boston) and Boston is also having a substantial COVID outbreak – larger than Seattle’s, at this point, iirc.

        5. Notice that no one in government misses a paycheck though

          1. Well, those chairs don’t warm themselves…

        6. French deaths per million 12.8, USA’s 1.9. Numbers as of five minutes ago. So we should follow France’s lead. BTW, Germany’s is the same as the USA’S.

        7. Higher population density? Or maybe they’re overreacting too?

          What a stupid question.

        8. I’m a nurse. This is a GROSS overreaction. This issue was that we didn’t have enough PPE. They should have put the money toward quick manufacture instead of restricting civil liberties because this is already out in the community on a much larger scale than is estimated. And speaking of estimates, they use estimated cases of flu to calculate death rate but they are using VERIFIED cases of Covid only (those requiring hospitalization) to calculate death toll %. Misleading and controlling to keep fear the number one issue.

          1. I forgot to mention hospital equipment shortage along with the PPE.

            1. Seems obvious to me: if you only test severe cases, 100% of your confirmed cases will be severe. Meanwhile they are slowrolling people being able to do their own tests.

        9. India shutting down its economy was one of the most idiotic moves during this whole s***show of a pandemic. Do you have any idea how many people there will starve? Migrant workers became trapped in foreign cities after being given four hours notice of a complete lockdown. The homeless population tripled overnight. Oh wait, and what good does a lockdown do if the streets are full of homeless people with nowhere to go and no access to food or shelter, let alone hygiene?
          Do not suggest that a serious lockdown is a good idea ‘because India did it’.
          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/world/asia/coronavirus-india-migrants.amp.html

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    2. Well this can’t continue as we are going to all be dirt farmers if they keep this up.

      The politicians have one month, maybe two, to get things back on an even keel or there’s going to be increasing civil unrest the longer it goes on–to the point that some of them are likely to need body armor and a cadre of bodyguards to go anywhere.

      1. Trump’s comments last night and today indicate that he’s pretty intent on getting back to “normal” next week or so.
        And the DOW avg finished +2100 today (they’re crediting the stimulus outlook in the press, which I’m sure is part of it, but I think Trump’s reassurance that the country shouldn’t be shut down much longer is the bigger deal)

        1. The market will roar back by next week. Many Americans will be going back to their lives by this weekend.

          1. No, probably mid April things will start loosening up.

            But several weeks after that we will have a second wave because people will become careless.

            1. Yeah, there’s going to be some re-spikes. But the more herd immunity gets built up, the less severe they’ll be.

              If you’re asymptomatic, you’re already spreading it around anyway, so it’s not like these stupid “essential”/”non-essential” business closures are doing any good.

            2. “No, probably mid April things will start loosening up.

              But several weeks after that we will have a second wave because people will become careless.”

              I agree on your timeline, but I think that your second point can be dealt with because the narrative over the next couple of weeks will be “targeted quarantine” to protect the population that we now know is actually at some risk from this.

    3. Americans are going back to their lives by this weekend.

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  2. as soon as the crisis has sufficiently abated.

    Ah, but there’s the rub. “We cannot know when we are truly safe, so ….”

    1. Whenever that is, lifting the crisis will not stop every subsequent death, all of which will be laid at Trump’s feet because he lifted restrictions “too soon.” Only Joe Biden is competent enough to tell us when it is truly safe to stop cowering in our homes.

      1. It’ll also be interesting to see how “religious/strongly-held-belief” exception requests play into this drama. “Well, you’re free to not get the COVID vaccine, but you’ll have to shelter in place until you do.”

        1. They don’t have a vaccine and the one they are testing here in Seattle is being made through methods that have been illegal until now. They are rushing it through. Very scary indeed.

          1. “methods that have been illegal until now”

            I’d be curious to know more about this. Are you talking about things that are illegal because they are potentially dangerous or immoral, or only things that are “illegal” because they violate some Byzantine set of regulations?

      2. Whenever that is, lifting the crisis will not stop every subsequent death, all of which will be laid at Trump’s feet because he lifted restrictions “too soon.”

        It’s like you’re some kind of profit or something.

      3. Will that be when Biden stops cowering in his home?

        1. its look like hot curfew in whole country its must ASAP

    2. “Ah, but there’s the rub. “We cannot know when we are truly safe, so ….””

      Paging JFree:
      ‘If it saves just one life!’

  3. “The salutary purpose of the statute is clear,” that court said. “The legislature had seen the baleful effects of permitting foreigners, who had taken residence in this country, to rear and educate their children in the language of their native land.”

    Based. I’m glad we realized codifying such things in law is a bad idea, but thank goodness Americans are rediscovering the issue and appropriately critiquing it via the culture war.

    1. They should be able to educate their kids however they damn well please. But in public schools English only.

  4. The Fed decided they have the authority under existing law to give money directly to corporations. I’m sure no one will have standing to object at least until a Democrat executive gets into office and uses this power to fund universal basic income.

    1. Or to give all the money needed by the corporation to the corporation, if you catch my drift.

    2. “…I’m sure no one will have standing to object at least until a Democrat executive gets into office and uses this power to fund universal basic income…”

      Of course not! Why this manufactured panic changed everybody into a raging fucking ignoramus like you.

    3. “Give money”

      What?? SO the government forces you to shutdown and your company is in distress and them compensating you for that is somehow a gift?

      Fuck you its restitution you idiot

      1. And I am pretty sure they are talking loans, which side something the government has done multiple times in the past.

        1. *which is…
          Can we use this “crisis” to get Reason to finally allow an edit function?

      2. Governments at all levels are doing things like shutting businesses down by making up rules as to which are “essential” and which are not, demanding that businesses keep paying employees who are not allowed to work anymore due to the business being shut down. Landlords are not being permitted to collect rents or evict people (as if all deadbeats are suddenly virus victims). Price gauging laws are preventing supply and demand to balance out. At every turn governments are screwing businesses over.

  5. But DO let temporary lifting of restrictions become permanent. Thanks.

  6. ” Among those snared in its net was the left-wing leader Eugene Debs, who was arrested and sentenced under the Espionage Act in 1918 to 10 years in federal prison after exercising his First Amendment rights ”

    What great idea! So we can finally lock up old ‘take a vacation then take over’ Nancy?

  7. Such as the temporary tax on phone service exclusively to fund the Vietnam whatever-it-was-that-was-not-going-to-be-a-declared-war?

    1. Spanish American War.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_telephone_excise_tax

      1898-1902 – at the end of a completely different war. Then again from 1914-2006ish and was only ended because of a bit of wording in the tax which stated it was for telecommunications that are charged for distance *and* time used. By that point, no one was charging long-distance as such – only for the amount of time on the network and so the courts upheld multiple challenges by companies not wanting to pay the tax.

  8. You can bet that those who have been in denial the whole time (and still are) will be as useless in getting rid of those restrictions as they were in figuring out which restrictions are necessary to deal with the virus and which are just the usual BS excuses for authoritarian restriction.

    1. We can be certain that chicken littles will milk this for every whine they can get.
      Stuff your PANIC!!! flag up your ass, stick first.

      1. Oh thank you. I sent Chicken Little all over the internet DAY ONE and find references to it everywhere now. That’s what this is. I’m on many forums with different monikers. ????

    2. 1.9 deaths per million Americans. Time to panic.

      1. And it’s not evenly distributed by any means. 11 per million in New York state (and I’m sure 75% of that or more is in NYC area alone, so the deaths per million gets even higher when broken down to that level). About 1.4 for everywhere else. And drops further if you take out a few other localized hotspots in NJ, CA, and WA.

        It’s almost like there are drawbacks to living in ultra high density, precisely planned urban environments. Must be the notoriously libertarian and laissez faire governments in those big cities.

        1. Who knew that packing people into densely populated areas, with questionable sanitation, would result in higher disease transmissions and fatalities? Guess no one read Poe’s the Mask of the Red Death or anything else about the plague… Will New York City turn into a Monty Python skit anytime soon?

        2. Basically, at this point if you don’t live in NYC, LA, SF, Seattle metros, you have had a one in a million chance of dying from this so far. If you do live there, it’s more like one in a hundred thousand. Of course if you control for age and health, for the vast majority of us the probability is much less than even those numbers, and for a few it is quite a bit higher.

          1. Lol
            Just saw a map highlighting the “shelter in place” states
            It’s basically a red/blue split

          2. It’s early days….

            There is plenty of time for more to die. We aren’t at peak plague yet.

            1. Yep, lots more people *WILL* die. But every day that goes by is adding data that support the assertion that this will be “not that bad” except in a very, very small portion of the population that was already at very high risk of dying from just about any infection.

          3. Not even. My whole family had it here in Seattle back when we were told you had to have contact with someone from Wuhan. That was the mistake that was made since respiratory viruses travel quickly and there was never going to be containment. Still isn’t. Most people will get and never know.

            1. The question is, are we going to have enough data at the end of this to prove they were full of shit? They’re preventing home testing to determine if you’ve already had it……

      2. I hope you were a better medic than you were a rifleman.

        Aiming behind an accelerating target is no way to hit the enemy son

        1. Actually, swinging through an accelerating target, starting behind the target and swinging through it is one of the best tactics for hitting a moving target. This is widely used by wing shooters, skeet shooters and trap shooters.

        2. And it is the rate of acceleration that is important, not the actual acceleration itself.

    3. Let me know when Eric Idle begins pulling a wagon through downtown New York City and then I’ll panic.

      1. Bring out your dead………….

        1. I’m not dead!

  9. About the restrictions as government dicta, I agree.

    It is, though, dangerously naive to think that some few weeks will permanently banish the risk.

    We are, however, going to have to face that this C-19 pandemic is a preview of and a screeching siren warning us to create a new way to live; because it or a new and worse mutation of it or some new worse bug is going to require that much of these and better efforts to impede contagions continue for the foreseeable future.

    1. “We are, however, going to have to face that this C-19 pandemic is a preview of and a screeching siren warning us to create a new way to live; because it or a new and worse mutation of it or some new worse bug is going to require that much of these and better efforts to impede contagions continue for the foreseeable future.”

      Cool story, bro.
      You first.

      1. I’m more than OK with being first to avoid a stint in an ICU.

        Enjoy your time on the respirator, after we go right back to those contagion breweries known as public schools, and some little snot monster brings you C-19 or worse.

        1. “I’m more than OK with being first to avoid a stint in an ICU.”

          When does the sky fall, chicken little? Is the big, bad wolf after you again?
          Be sure to check under your bed for boogey men, wittle boy.

        2. Are you elderly or have cardiac issues? Statistically you will think you have a strange hybrid cold/flu and not much more. Please see my earlier comments. Stats on this are being highly misreported

        3. COVID-220, -221, whatever it takes.

    2. Yeah we are going to have to live with it. Gee like polio, tuberculosis, smallpox and measles. How in the world did anybody survive?

      1. Most of that time by not really knowing what they were or how to do anything to prevent them and in some cases, like with a worse C-19 mutation or another new bug to which we’ve no preexisting immunity, by losing up to 90% of their population – ie: smallpox in the first contact Americas.

        Have we learned nothing since the 15th century.

        1. You act as if vaccine study stopped back in the 50s.

          Yeah, viruses mutate all the time. It’s called evolution, and anyone is naïve to think that Mother Gaia isn’t always coming up with new and exciting ways to kill us, especially in filthy environments like factory farms or bushmeat markets.

          We’re in a stage of the human history where, at least in the First World, there’s not a lot of living memory anymore of a time when things like cholera could rip through a community and kill off half the populace. People tried to mitigate the effects as best they could back then with the knowledge they had available, but they were far more accustomed to dealing with high mortality rates, and people dying young, than we are. And so, with the Boomers approaching the end of their lives and not having experienced anything that threatened a quick end to that since Vietnam–a period of nearly 50 years–we now have this massive global overreaction.

          1. Um…….we boomers had polio to deal with until the early 60’s. Polio was a terrible disease that created numerous cripples, who suffered greatly and required lots of help.

            Kids!

            1. Polio was stopped with better sanitation and was already on the massive decrease at the time of vaccine introduction. It was also reclassified at the same time so we will never have accurate numbers. Dad told me the government told kids not to play in “dirty polio puddles.”

            2. I did say “since Vietnam.”

        2. (Does this dude know that the 15th century is the 1400s, not 1500s?)

      2. Or SARS, MERS, Zika, West Nile, hanta, H1N1, bird flu, …

      3. SHHHHH!!!!

        Nobody gets those anymore (except the anti-vax crowd) so they are no longer useful tools to get people to surrender their freedom.

    3. That is not how viruses generally evolve. They rarely become more deadly.

      1. True in the long run, but oversimplified.

        Their mutations are random. Some will be more deadly. Some less deadly. Yes, the persistent and pervasive form of the virus will likely be a less deadly mutant due to their greater mortality impeding the spread of the more deadly mutants; but more deadly mutants will still exist, if only in lessor or temporary numbers.

        1. And more deadly outbreaks will be much shorter and tend to be much more localized because they kill their hosts to quickly to spread effectively. Or their hosts are to sick to transmit the virus effectively.

        2. BigGiveNotBigGov
          March.24.2020 at 2:55 pm

          “True in the long run, but oversimplified…”

          It’s whiny, childish, idiots like this who ratchet up government size and control:
          ‘Gee, this is horrible; the next one will be even more horrible, so let’s keep letting the government control more and more of our lives!!!!’
          BTW, this one has yet to prove to be ‘horrible’, but watch out for the boogey man!
          Fuck off, slaver.

          1. No it’s those too stupid to recognize a cause from a tertiary effect. These current government ordered restrictions are largely government trying to fix its own mistakes.

            Big government causes bigger government to “fix” its own mistakes.

            Much of what makes us more vulnerable to contagions is government herding us into its own Petri dishes:
            Gov’t Schools
            Gov’t Transit
            Gov’t Housing
            Gov’t Stadiums
            Gov’t Offices
            etc.

            Or those forced upon the private sector to create by regulation, taxation, and exclusion.

            We need to take this C-19 hint to not allow ourselves to be herded into government Petri dishes, nor allowing government to bully us into making and jumping into our own.

      2. Absolutely true. They become less virulent over time

    4. “warning us to create a new way to live”

      And what is that exactly- living huddled up in our habitats like moles, waiting for our government deposit into our bank accounts? GTFO. I’d rather take my chances with a disease that has a 75% chance of bleeding out my ass until I die than that.

      Here’s a hot take for you- to what extent are we contributing to the seriousness of future pandemics by not letting at least minor ones like this take their course? It’s like a forest fire- keep putting out the small ones that burn up a bit of dead underbrush every few years, and eventually you will get a roaring inferno that you can’t control, plus even your “good” trees may have lost some of the characteristics that make long term survival against fires possible.

      And I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that we will see virus after virus now, each more deadly than the last. Why would we? The only reason we ever see these things to begin with is when they cross over from different species, almost always because of, umm, certain cultures and their disgusting and unsanitary dietary and hygiene habits. But it’s not the virus’ goal to kill us, or even make us seriously ill; in fact, that is precisely counter to what makes a virus successful. So with a bit of time, and yes, collateral damage, the virus will either die out or mutate so as to become much more benign, and thus simply endemic in the population. The other real dangerous (and exceedingly unlikely) possibility would be some sort of man-made infection, as a weapon. However, one would assume that any bad actors who created such a thing would first have a vaccine before unleashing it. Thus, it probably wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to create that vaccine ourselves, and/or take it by force from those who already had it.

      1. Interestingly there is plenty of scientific evidence that Europeans were less susceptible to future pandemics then others because of the black death. Those who survived tended to have a genetic mutation that made their immune system more resilient than those who were not exposed, i.e. central and south Africans and Native Americans.

        1. Waiting for Mtrueman to come along and berate me for using the wrong form of then/than….

        2. You have to use your immune system for it to work well.

      2. Under Pressure, the social Darwinist. Ebenezer Scrooge is his role model.

    5. “We are, however, going to have to face that this C-19 pandemic is a preview of and a screeching siren warning us to create a new way to live; because it or a new and worse mutation of it or some new worse bug is going to require that much of these and better efforts to impede contagions continue for the foreseeable future.”

      I’ll let you get right on that.
      Let us know how it goes

    6. Based on the information that developed pretty quickly, we could have avoided the economic crisis of horizontally shutting down the entire economy and gone vertical by asserting restrictions on the most vulnerable.

      This would not be without some health consequences but, wait until we see the consequences of destroying an economy.

      By the way, I’m in the over 60 camp and I do have high BP (treated).

  10. Trump says back in business no later than April 12. problem is these dictators , oops I mean governors, keep trying to outdo each other on taking away liberties.

    Its like “wait what did that other governor do, hear hold my beer”

    Waiting for the Reason article on that one though, ……..

    1. And of course progs are losing their minds. “How irresponsible!” Thing is, you have to give people hope. If you want them to follow your advice to drastically change their lifestyles, you need to give them an endgame. I, and probably most people, would be more likely to at least make some effort to keep home if I was told “look, can we try this for three or four weeks at most? We know you can’t do this forever.” But what we are getting instead is finger wagging and “lock yourselves in your homes until I say you can come out you worthless peasants! Don’t ask how long, because I don’t know, but if it needs to be 18 fucking months, then that’s how long it will be!” There HAS to be a point where it either works or it doesn’t, and we just get on with our lives. And that point has to be in weeks at most, not months.

      1. Agree, it doesn’t work.

    2. Trump doesn’t have a virus czar, he has the guvunahs to do the dirty work and take the blame.

    3. I’m in Seattle and our idiot copies Newsom, the worst of the worst.

      1. I’m in Connecticut and our idiot copies Cuomo, the third worst of the worst?

    4. “these dictators , oops I mean governors”

      Cuomo had me in all kinds of knots today. One the one hand, I think he’s dead-on balls accurate to talk about moving to a precise and targeted isolation/quarantine policy that can protect the elderly and also get people working again.

      But the he goes and starts spouting BS about using the DPA to get 40k ventilators in 21 days…

  11. How many of the freedoms lost after 9/11 have been regained? How about after the war on drugs? How about any crisis in the last 20 or more years?

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  13. Woodrow Wilson. Progressive hero and WORST…PRESIDENT….EVER

    1. WRONG. Lincoln is the leader in the clubhouse.

      1. Lincoln definitely had his bad points, but I think Buchanan, Jackson and both Adams gave him a run for his money, if we are talking pre 20th century.

        1. Nope, it’s Wilson
          We can thank him, and his protege FDR, for the progressive era establishing itself as dominant

          1. My bad
            Didn’t read all the way through to the “pre 20th century” part

            1. Honestly, Wilson still probably gets it even counting pre 20th Century. WW1 was an absolutely needless loss of life that just made things worse for Europe. Then there was the stomping of civil liberties, the rise of the Fed, Revenue Act of 1913. You can’t hate Wilson enough.

              I feel pity for Lincoln more than anything else. The chance for a peaceful resolution to the slavery question was long gone by the time he showed up.

              1. Slavery is an economic loser. It went away in the rest of the world without war, and I believe it would not exist today without the war. Lincoln’s war wasn’t about slavery. It was about establishing federal dominance over the states. Before the war the United States was plural. After the war it was singular.

                1. Considering the south seceded despite no attempt to end slavery (and no plans to) I doubt Lincoln could have avoided war except by allowing secession.

                  1. And King George could have let the Colonies walk away from the Crown too. Lincoln’s response to the secession of the South was not that different than George’s desire to keep the Colonies as part of the empire. It surely seems likely that had the remaining United States just allowed the Confederate State to secede, that slavery in the South would have lasted awhile longer but ultimately died out as am economic and ethical loser.

              2. FDR was worse since he locked up 70,000, and left a more permanent and horrible legacy. Wilson left few footprints.

                1. “Wilson left few footprints.”

                  But the ones he did leave are just as devastating.

  14. Wilson cracked down on leftists and immigrants? That’s awesome! Oh wait, Glenn Beck said he’s a bad guy. Now I’m confused.

    Will one of you right wingers true libertarians please clarify?

    1. He was bloody awful, but the tall fugly one was the worst.

      1. Bent. Not broken. And if you keep saying the same stupid shit in response to my comments I’ll call you Tulpa. It doesn’t get more insulting than that. So dude, lighten the fuck up.

        1. “And if you keep saying the same stupid shit in response to my comments I’ll call you Tulpa”

          LOL
          Ok, sqrlsy 2
          When do we get to the part where you pathetically beg me to hang out with you?

          Face it, sarc – you used to have ideas and opinions, even if they were just regurgitation of something someone smarter than you wrote, but you’ve descended into complete, bitter irrelevance.
          If there aren’t enough people here to join your self-conceited circle jerk, go find some real friends. There’s plenty of people on twitter that’ll slap you on the back for your “durrrr Trump supporters!” buffoonery.

          1. When do we get to the part where you pathetically beg me to hang out with you?

            No worries on that dude. I’d rather hang out with Tony than you.

      2. Though since you wish death on people who disagree with you, like you’re at a rally in Iran, I don’t expect you to change your behavior.

        So please, if it makes you happy, keep calling me broken.

        I’ll call you Iranian Tulpa.

        1. The funniest thing is that I tried being nice to you for a bit, but you couldn’t control your resentment and kept lashing out in the most vapid manner.
          Now you want to whine because I’m being honest with you. Truth hurts.

          1. I tried being nice to you for a bit

            Was that when you were pissing into my Wheaties instead of shitting on my pillow?

        2. Councilwoman Candi CdeBaca last week responded to a tweet that said, “For the record, if I do get the coronavirus I’m attending every MAGA rally I can.”

          She responded: “#solidarity Yaaaas!!” with laughing emojis.

  15. The chance of these restrictions becoming permanent is next to zero. That was never in the cards, barring an extinction level event. But make no mistake – the Wuhan coronavirus is a dangerous virus, and one you do not want to contract and suffer complications from.

    I can foresee another 15 day isolation period that would expire near the end of Pesach. That would make the festival celebrating our freedom that much more meaningful.

    1. Pesach?

      Is that Jewish easter/spring celebration?

      1. The festival of Passover. It runs for eight days, starting the evening of the 8th. This year, my Seder will be alone, in my home. I have literally never been alone for a Seder in my entire life, so it feels completely alien. I am buying all the ingredients online, with the exception of brisket; I’ll risk the trip. 🙂

    2. “The chance of these restrictions becoming permanent is next to zero”

      I lack your confidence. These are neat toys our betters are playing with. They aren’t going to forget where they dropped them.

      1. No, I expect a rerun at some point.
        And if the legislated vote fraud somehow slips in, it’s all over

        1. Yes, Trump should announce he will veto any bill that is not entirely directly related to the bug.

      2. Perhaps I am too much an idealist, Gray_Jay.

    3. “Wuhan coronavirus is a dangerous virus”

      If you are a man over the age of ~70+ with serious comorbidities, then yes. If you happen to catch it (transmissibility still unclear) then you have some thing like 10-15% chance of dying from it.

      Otherwise, your chances improve substantially.

      1. Dude, are you paying attention to the data coming out of NYC? I encourage you to look at it. Roughly 33% of hospitalizations are young people. It is not just about the mortality. Think it through.

  16. The bureaucrats and “officialdom”, nameless and without responsibility, must be kept forever on the shortest of short leashes.

  17. Yes, you are correct. Since we are now facing a big battle which is to fight Coronavirus 2019, let us fight for it and do not make it permanent. It is a deadly virus and we should be careful as always. Let us follow the rules in avoiding covid19 like social distancing, washing our hands, using alcohol every time and wear face masks. Since it is a deadly one, let us isolate ourselves to protect from covid 19. We will make everyone happy in our house while having our isolation by having a carpet cleaning, We should go to their website and get their help in [cleaning our carpet](https://www.carpetcleaningbismarck.com/). They remove pet stain and odor. They provide perfect carpet cleaning and care here in Bismarck.

    1. “using alcohol every time”

      So… business as usual then?

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