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New Restrictions on Vaping, Trans Fats, Food Labeling in FDA Commissioner's Agenda: Reason Roundup

On the upside, agency promises to review over-the-counter drug rules, approve more new drugs, and liberate French dressing.

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The FDA's new regulatory agenda. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is proposing a slew of changes to food, medicine, and e-cigarette regulation, with very few bright spots. Top items on Commissioner Scott Gottlieb's upcoming food and tobacco agenda include declaring war on e-cigarettes, banning all partially hydrogenated oils (a.k.a. trans fats) in food, further micromanaging the use of the word "healthy," and reconsidering some food standards laws.

The only potential upside there from a deregulatory perspective is the last point, which would could cut down on what Gottlieb calls "old-fashioned" and burdensome requirements. These "standards of identity" rules have driven recent controversies over vegan mayo and almond milk. Gottlieb has previously supported increasing enforcement of such laws when it comes to milk, aiming to exclude nut, seed, and other plant-based products—and even animal milk that doesn't come from a cow—from using the milk label. But his agenda shows interest in revoking outdated standards of identity for French dressing and frozen cherry pie.

When it comes to trans fats and food labels, Gottlieb writes,

we're following up our earlier actions on partially hydrogenated oils in foods with a rulemaking that proposes to remove the remaining uses to further reduce deaths from coronary heart disease. We're also working on updating the definition of the claim "healthy" on food labels so it reflects current nutrition guidelines and to encourage its use.

On smoking products, including e-cigarettes, Gottlieb promises "aggressive steps to address the epidemic of e-cigarette use among youth, through our Youth Tobacco Prevention Plan. This comprehensive plan aims to stop youth use of, and access to, tobacco products—especially e-cigarettes. Significant regulatory and research efforts related to access, marketing are already underway and new steps are forthcoming." He also mentions "standards for characterizing flavors in tobacco products; requirements for tobacco product manufacturing practices; implementing product standards for testing battery safety and battery management systems of e-cigarettes; creating registration and product listings for tobacco products; and, administrative detention of tobacco products."

Last week, the FDA sent out a warning to HelloCig about Viagra and Cialisis containing vape products.

Meanwhile, local news programs and "wellness" gurus are touting the benefits of vaping your vitamins.

Gottlieb does offer some potentially positive changes on the health device and drug approval front, including:

  • "exploring the amending and/or repealing of existing medical device software regulations to create brighter lines between products we actively regulate, and those that don't fall under our purview," and
  • "rulemaking to broaden the kinds of drugs that can be made available without a prescription."

So far in 2018, "the FDA has approved 45 novel drugs and biologics, close to our total of 46 in 2017, which was the most approved in more than 20 years," the FDA commissioner notes.

We have record-setting numbers for the total amount of generic approvals in a fiscal year, with 971 total approval actions, including 781 final approvals, and 190 tentative approvals. These totals include 95-first time generic approvals.

This week, an FDA panel preliminarily approved "a new kind of opioid for pain," sufentanil, that "is five to 10 times more potent than fentanyl….The panel vote is not the final step of approval, but the FDA regularly follows the committee's lead." The nod of approval to the sublingual synthetic opioid is already causing controversy but it may offer rapid pain relief to patients who have trouble swallowing.

FREE MARKETS

A Walmart food-safety exec will head the FDA's new Office of Food Policy and Response. In other shakeups at the FDA, Stephen Ostroff, deputy commissioner for foods and veterinary medicine, will retire in January 2019. His role—"a significant food safety and nutrition post at the agency," according to Politico—will be filled by Walmart VP of food safety Frank Yiannas, who's been pushing blockchain tech's role in preventing food contamination.

"Yiannas' role will be different than Ostroff's, with a new title that reflects an ongoing effort to reorganize FDA so the heads of centers, such as the Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, report directly to the commissioner instead of to deputy commissioners," Politico reports. He'll head a newly created Office of Food Policy and Response, pending the conclusion of an ongoing review process.

FREE MINDS

FDA asks for comment on global cannabis restrictions. Last week, the FDA put out a public announcement seeking comment on marijuana reclassification as it relates to international drug treaties. "So far, the agency says it has received more than 2,100 comments—a small fraction of which have been published," reports Marijuana Moment.

The comments range from personal anecdotes about how cannabis has helped patients to arguments about the economic benefits of legalization. Others put the issue more bluntly:

  • "Just legalize it already." —Anonymous

…The comments will be considered as the United States responds to the United Nations World Health Organization. That response will help inform the international group on "whether to recommend that certain international restrictions be placed on these drugs" or whether that should be reclassified under international drug treaties.

QUICK HITS

An annual Survey of American Fears finds "corruption of government officials" is a top fear for the fourth year running.

President Donald Trump now says that he believes that Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi is dead and that the consequences will be "very severe" if the Saudi government had authorized it.

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  1. An annual Survey of American Fears finds “corruption of government officials” a top fear for the fourth year running.

    Save us, incumbents!

    1. Hello.

      “…we’re following up our earlier actions on partially hydrogenated oils in foods with a rulemaking that proposes to remove the remaining uses to further reduce deaths from coronary heart disease. We’re also working on updating the definition of the claim “healthy” on food labels so it reflects current nutrition guidelines and to encourage its use.”

      Yeh, that won’t end well.

      That’s a loooong leash you have there, buddy.

  2. A Walmart food-safety exec will head the FDA’s new Office of Food Policy and Response.

    An elderly person in a blue vest will now greet you at the FDA front door.

    1. Except that now they can be armed, because federal building or something – – – – – – –

  3. “seeking comment on marijuana reclassification as it relates to international drug treaties”

    The UN treaty itself allows countries to withdraw from it. Why is Trump playing footsie with the UN?

    1. Make the UN work for the billions we contribute.

    2. Because he likes playing footsie and no one else will play with him?

  4. Top items on FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb’s upcoming food and tobacco agenda include declaring war on e-cigarettes, banning all partially hydrogenated oils (a.k.a. trans fats) in food, further micromanaging the use of the word “healthy,” and reconsidering some food standards laws.

    The principle of limited government isn’t a suicide pact, you know.

  5. news programs and “wellness” gurus are touting the benefits of vaping your vitamins.

    Oh, FFS!

    *** reads link ***

    1. As always, talk to your doctor before adding these products to your daily regimen.

      Pretty sure my doc would say “Oh, FFS!”.

    2. No thanks. I’ll stick to buttchugging my vitamins.

      1. That’s also what Kavanaugh meant by boofing

  6. Just met with @realDonaldTrump and @SecPompeo and we have decided, I will not be participating in the Future Investment Initiative summit in Saudi Arabia.
    ? Steven Mnuchin (@stevenmnuchin1) October 18, 2018

    If his fear is being dismembered by crown prince goons, Mnuchin could always Skype in.

    1. WHAT?! And be hacked by the Russians or Chinese?!

      1. “And be hacked”

        too soon

        1. *** cries up sleeve ***

          1. Didn’t you just sneeze into your sleeve? That’s a disgusting place to cry.

            1. My mom kept Kleenex in her sleeve.

      2. To be hacked, or to be hacked to pieces? That is the question.

        1. Choose your form of collateral damage

        2. Middle East piece.

  7. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is proposing a slew of changes to food, medicine, and e-cigarette regulation, with very few bright spots.

    Hey! Has that statement been evaluated by the FDA?

    1. Who evaluates the statements made by the FDA? We need an FDAA!

  8. We have record-setting numbers for the total amount of generic approvals in a fiscal year, with 971 total approval actions, including 781 final approvals, and 190 tentative approvals. These totals include 95-first time generic approvals.

    Unfortunately Trump’s 5% budget cut is going to put a stop to that kind of efficiency next year.

  9. She didn’t REALLY just say that! Phrase Nancy Pelosi uses when justifying violence against the Right is INFURIATING
    Nancy Pelosi on the Democratic agenda: “If there’s some collateral damage, for some others that don’t share our view, well so be it.” pic.twitter.com/UfcQMjzTXI

    ? Kyle Morris (@RealKyleMorris) October 18, 2018

    1. WATCH: Antifa Thug Who Harassed 9/11 Widow Runs Away When Confronted
      The apparent Antifa protester who seemed to feel empowered when harassing a woman who lost her husband in the 9/11 terror attacks suddenly lost his nerve when confronted by large men who appear to be associated with the right-wing “Proud Boys.”

      Additional footage of the Antifa protester shows him and his friends taunting counter-protesters in Portland, OR, from across the street. After several back-and-forth insult exchanges, a large bald man begins walking toward the Antifa protesters.

      “You callin’ my mom out?” The large Proud Boy asks.

      The Antifa protester then turns and runs away.

      1. “9/11 widow”

        right

        1. Taking a break from your childcare activities, Cathy?

          1. There’s never a break from paying for other people’s childcare.

            1. At least take a break from crying about it. And fucking the kids.

              1. Pretty sure Longtorso, aka you, was the one crying about it.

                1. Aww, you’re upset that I pointed out you were crying about taking care of other people’s kids. Don’t keep crying!

                  Have you at least stopped fucking the kids? You should.

                  1. The projection is really getting next-level with you, isn’t it?

                    1. Lol One of us cried about paying for kids and the other one is me.

                      This is delicious because YOU ACTUALLY WERE CRYING ABOUT IT!!

                      lololol

                      But you should stop crying, and stop fucking kids too.

      2. It’s why I have no beef with the Proud Boys. Conservatives got sucker punched by Antifa for a while before anybody did anything.

        McInness did something. Good for him.

    2. Red Shirts (Dem-o-rats) vs. Brown Shirts (Trumpistas).

      This can’t end good.

      1. Kind of like when Stalin’s mob fought Trotsky’s crew.

        1. Hey NPC Weigel. The flat gray skin hiding the problem acne?

    3. It’s not even “collateral damage”.

      Collateral damage is when you do damage or harm or kill people by accident that you didn’t mean to harm. The damage that Pelosi and her ilk are trying to do to America is 100% completely intentional. She despises normal, patriotic Americans more than anyone or anything on earth.

  10. The comments range from personal anecdotes about how cannabis has helped patients to arguments about the economic benefits of legalization. Others put the issue more bluntly

    ISWYDT, Elizabeth.

    1. Nice catch. ENB is lit.

  11. “liberate French dressing.”

    Why bother? It will just surrender again at the first opportunity

  12. New Restrictions on Vaping, Trans Fats, Food Labeling in FDA Commissioner’s Agenda

    Don’t fret, we were promised a wall that Mexico is going to pay for. That should even everything else out.

    A Walmart food-safety exec will head the FDA’s new Office of Food Policy and Response.

    I see an investigation into Wholefoods in the works. And not coincidentally, you cynics!

    An annual Survey of American Fears finds “corruption of government officials” a top fear for the fourth year running.

    Why would they harbor such fears, with a lyin’, cheatin’ Neu Yawk real estate developer in the presidential seat? Gee, stop the paranoia, people!

    President Trump now says that he believes Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi is dead and the consequences will be “very severe” if the Saudi government had authorized it

    He’s going to have a summit with the crown prince and show him a video of what a great statesman he could be. That’ll teach him!

    1. I seriously doubt that Walmart and Whole Foods have much overlap in customers.

      1. I shop at both.

      2. Lol. Culture war bullshit is not data.

        1. [citation needed]

        2. Why are you crying about his post? Don’t you have kids to fuck?

          1. No, I don’t. But you seem confused in general since you can’t tell the difference between laughing and crying.

            1. Cry more about it. At least you took my advice and took a break from fucking kids.

          2. What the hell is wrong with you?

  13. That response will help inform the international group on “whether to recommend that certain international restrictions be placed on these drugs” or whether that should be reclassified under international drug treaties.

    We didn’t elect this president just so he could roll over and show his belly to the world!

    1. But that’s how you get pets!

      1. Unless you’re pussy cat. They seem to be asking for it, but aren’t.

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

      2. Fuck off Hihn.

  14. Americans (including kids) killed by Obama drones – Meh. Whaddya gonna do? Give him a Nobel Peace prize.

    A Muslim Brotherhood agitator journalist – OUTRAGE TO ELEVENTY. After 541 red lines, they finally crossed the wrong one!

    I’m sure there have been many a journalist killed in the past largely ignored.

    They just didn’t have the value need to spend political currency on.

    1. If this Khashoggi guy had been a soldier, sailor, or marine, the scum in the JournoList would be like “Who gives a flying fuck”. We know this because that was their reaction to Benghazi.

      A fellow member of the JournoList though, THAT they want to create a major international incident (if not a world war) over. Many of these same scumbags didn’t even think we should have retaliated over 9/11!

      1. Khashoggi writes a column for the Washington Post and worked at a number of Saudi media organizations, print and broadcast. Broadly speaking, he is a journalist, as the U.S. press is describing him?with the caveat that most Arab journalists primarily serve the political masters who pay and protect them, and often represent the interests of intelligence services.

        So how did a former Saudi official with ties to intelligence services, connections to the Muslim Brotherhood, and a long history with a terrorist responsible for nearly 3,000 deaths on U.S. soil obtain permanent resident status?

        Khashoggi must have important American patrons, because even though he reportedly moved to the United States in 2017, he already had a green card. According to the Washington Post’s David Ignatius: “Friends helped Khashoggi obtain a visa that allowed him to stay in the United States as a permanent resident.” So who vouched for him and why?

        A few treats from the federalist;
        http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/15 /10-key-questions-khashoggi-affair -answer-buying-press-narrative/

        1. This guy seems to think Saudia Arabia is some kind of linchpin for the whole world, I think the world would do ok with a few less rich terrorists…

    2. I’m still waiting for the evidence that the Saudis were involved in the slightest.

      Right now, all we have is Stalin declaring that he has proof Hitler ordered the murder of someone who disappeared in the Soviet Union. It’s perfectly possible that Stalin is telling the truth, but only a fool would take his word for it before the proof is actually presented.

  15. We’re also working on updating the definition of the claim “healthy” on food labels

    Soon “healthy” will mean “natural and organic”.

    1. So, still meaningless.

      1. “Oh, very well. We’ll change the mandatory labeling to include the phrase ‘These terms have not been defined by the FDA’.”

    2. and “carbon neutral”

  16. Texas Democrats Ask Non-Citizens To Register To Vote, Pre-Checked Citizenship Box On Applications, Report Says
    The Texas Democratic Party reportedly asked non-citizens to register to vote and sent applications to immigrants that pre-checked the citizenship box as “yes,” according to complaints filed on Thursday.

    1. “Collateral damage”

    2. More evidence that even Democrats know the jig is up. Democrats will continue to lose political seats as they become less and less popular with Americans.

      Election 2018 will be a Democrat bloodbath.

  17. The FDA’s new regulatory agenda. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is proposing a slew of changes to food, medicine, and e-cigarette regulation, with very few bright spots. Top items on Commissioner Scott Gottlieb’s upcoming food and tobacco agenda include declaring war on e-cigarettes

    But Trump-tards keep saying he is taking a hatchet to these job-killing regulations!

    1. To be fair, there have been some cuts in regulation under Trump. Not sure how significant they are though.

      1. Yes, I saw one on coal but for the most part they are non-existent.

        CNBC interviewed a Trump supporter who sits on the manufacturing council and he was asked for an example of an industry regulation Trump had cut and he couldn’t think of one.

        Its Trump Fiction. It exists only in the feeble minds of his supporters.

        1. A quick google yielded this.

          1. Stream Protection Rule
            Environmental
            DoI
            Repealed
            10/19/2017

            So coal burners can dump coal ash straight into streams now? (Duke Energy is the worst)

            Fuck these assholes.

            1. You’re one of those idiots who think the “Patriot Act” was a good thing… after all it’s labeled “The Patriot Act!”

              God you’re fucking retard.

            2. EPA dumps waste into Colorado River

              No proof of what you said but the EPA dumped waste directly into the Colorado River.

              It was under Obama, if you care.

            3. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug|10.19.18 @ 10:27AM|#
              “So coal burners can dump coal ash straight into streams now? (Duke Energy is the worst)”

              IOWs, Trump IS removing regs, so you were lying and now you don’t like the ones he did remove, so you’re trying to change the subject?

          2. That’s an illustr’n of how counting pages of Fed. Reg. isn’t a good indicator of regul’n, as all the deregulatory changes require rulemaking as well.

            1. Fuck off Hihn.

              1. Am I now the pro-Trump Hihn or the anti-Trump Hihn? Or am I the anti-Hihn Hihn?

                1. Fuck off Hihn.

          3. I see there FDA wants to hold off on the deeming rule (treating vape as a tobacco product) but are being sued by advocates to go thru an entire notice-&-comment procedure for it.

            1. Fuck off Hihn.

          4. Wow, see the Off-Label Intended Use Rule nx? This is something I’d not known was in the works, arose from a vape case, & IS FUCKING HUGE!! The rule at issue is whether the feds can treat off-label uses of products as “intended”; this is how they go after a vast # of products, based on purveyors’ knowledge of consumer knowledge of uses of such products. If we can get this single under-the-radar change accomplished, it will vastly deregulate food & drug law in this country. It’ll accomplish much more than most of the supposed deregulatory moves being touted.

            1. Do you realize how much freedom we’ll have if we can get authorities to limit what they consider intended uses of products to just those on the label? Or even to those advertised?

              1. Fuck off Hihn.

            2. Wassamatta, don’t I get a “Fuck off, Hihn” for that one? You slacking or just late?

            3. Fuck off Hihn.

        2. “In the aggregate, the Trump administration is issuing fewer major regulations on manufacturers than that of the Obama administration, and it is seeking to eliminate or delay several major regulations on manufacturers that were issued by the Obama administration. (The difference from the Bush administration is less stark.) The number and cost of new major regulations on manufacturers is likely to remain low, and it is unlikely that the cost of compliance with long-standing regulations will be reduced significantly.”

          http://www.industryweek.com/ec…..nd-numbers

          1. From your link:

            Fewer New Regulations under the Trump Administration
            To see what is going on, let’s compare Donald Trump’s first year in office with that of Barack Obama and George W. Bush (see Table). The first takeaway is that there are significantly fewer new federal regulations coming out of the Trump administration than under his predecessors. Whereas the Bush and Obama administrations each issued more than 3,000 federal regulations in their first year, the Trump administration has issued fewer than half that number.

            So only 1500 NEW regulations have come out of the Trump administration vs 3000 for Bush/Obama?

            1. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug|10.19.18 @ 10:22AM|#
              “So only 1500 NEW regulations have come out of the Trump administration vs 3000 for Bush/Obama?”

              “Only” a 50% reduction? Push that goal post turd!

              1. So Trump imposing 1500 new regulations is something you support.

                Got it.

                1. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug|10.19.18 @ 10:44AM|#
                  “So Trump imposing 1500 new regulations is something you support.
                  Got it.”

                  Keep pushing that goal post turd; it’s all you got.

                  1. What moving goalposts? Trumpistas like to brag on Trump reducing regulations, and all he’s done for the most part is lower the rate of NEW regulations. Very few OLD regulations have been removed.

                    1. “and all he’s done for the most part is lower the rate of NEW regulations. Very few OLD regulations have been removed.”

                      Lol.

                    2. Woody Chip Hurrrrr?|10.19.18 @ 10:58AM|#
                      “What moving goalposts? Trumpistas like to brag on Trump reducing regulations, and all he’s done for the most part is lower the rate of NEW regulations. Very few OLD regulations have been removed.”

                      The goal posts which started where ‘trump isn’t doing anything about regulations’ to the new location somewhere near ‘cutting the new regs by 50% isn’t enough’
                      And then we have the list below of the ones removed.

                2. No, but the 50% reduction is a good sign. As always, it depends on what team you are on.

                3. I do if they “new regul’ns” are mostly deregul’ns! Every reg change (including rescissions) is “a new reg”.

                  1. Fuck off Hihn.

        3. Updated Jan. 20, 2018

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..ama-rules/

        4. I’m in the trucking business and while we have not seen regulations eliminated, existing rules are are being modified in ways that have benefited my little business greatly. And Obama regulations in the pipeline seem to be on hold. So from my business perspective Trump is doing what he promised to do. On the other hand this FDA guy, after a promising start, is turning out to be another asshole statist. Still better than what we would have had with Clinton so far. I’m hoping Trump shitcans this clown after the midterms but I see no indication that he will. .

      2. Let’s see the net change in food, drug, medical device, & cosmetic freedom over time. I bet we come out ahead. Of course that depends on weighting. If you’re big on vape, you might not care as much about lung flutes, etc.

        That bit about clarif’n of which articles are under FDA jurisd’n & which not might be good nx for the flutes. If they’re declared gen’l-use articles, that’s a +.

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

    2. Imagine! Turd lying again!:

      “President Donald Trump has made much news over slowing down the flow of regulations in 2017, and over new promises to reduce even more red tape in 2018.
      But the question has come up over which regulations, exactly, did he get rid of.
      And of the ones that Trump added?were they expensive?
      What has clearly happened is that the flow of new regulations has dropped greatly.Regulatory Reform: Completed Actions Fiscal Year 2017

      This chart excerpts executive branch agency E.O 13771 deregulatory actions completed in Fiscal Year 2017. (See original at OMB.)

      Department of Agriculture (5)

      Department of Commerce (7)

      Department of Health and Human Services (7)

      Department of Homeland Security (4)

      Department of Interior (12)

      Department of Labor (7)

      Department of Transportation (2)

      Department of Veterans Affairs (1)

      Environmental Protection Agency (16)

      Federal Acquisition Regulation (1)

      Small Business Administration (1)
      https://cei.org/blog/so-what-
      regulations-did-trump-eliminate

  18. McCaskill Staffer: It’s “F-Ing Beautiful” How Planned Parenthood Secretly Donates To Her
    Journalist: What were you telling me last night about Planned Parenthood?
    Starost: How they never- How they don’t donate to Claire because they don’t want to ostracize pro-life voters in Missouri.
    Journalist: But they still somehow get us money?
    Starost: They put it through, like, different organizations.
    Journalist: Keep the Planned Parenthood name off the thing, but we still get the dough?
    Starost: Yup. I love that stuff, man. It’s f-ing beautiful.

    1. You in favor of campaign finance laws, Longtorso?

      1. I’m in favor of not being constantly lied to. You favor politicians with the ‘right’ views lying to get the power you think they deserve? Go back to defending child rape.

        1. No, I favor an end to campaign finance regulations of all kinds.

          1. Well crying about them like that won’t get you anywhere. And you should probably stop fucking kids.

          2. You like rich people in charge of everything. go it.

      2. I am in favor of transparency, but not limits.

        1. Do you also think private citizens should have to disclose their donations to a public database that links their name with their employer?

          1. I think you’re embarrassing yourself by crying about it like that.

            1. You’re not exactly the authority on that subject.

              1. And yet it is true and you’re still crying about it!!!

          2. The issue is a large, public lobbying firm heavily subsidized by you covering up donations for people…who vote to continue giving them money.

            Not sure why you’re confused on the issue here, Cathy.

            1. I’m not at all confused about faux libertarians calling for better campaign finance regulation enforcement.

        2. Forced transparency is still force.

          1. The government releases all political contributions each year as part of a transparency plan.

    2. James O’Keefe is my hero.

      This sounds like the kind of confession that could swing a super-close election in the final days.

      1. I don’t get the hate for O’Keefe. He is doing, you know, journalism. Which is, I’ve heard, super important.

        But, apparently, only if you leak comments made by Mitt Romney at a dinner in 2012. Not leaking what a candidate says about her state.

    3. I like the implicit admission that Planned Parenthood has such a generally toxic reputation that a Democrat Senator cannot admit its support.

  19. “Watch Out Workers, Algorithms Are Coming to Replace You ? Maybe”
    […]
    “A.I. is still so new that it remains relatively unregulated. Does that worry you?

    There is no lack of dystopian scenarios in which A.I. emerges as a hero, but it can actually go wrong in so many ways. And this is why the only really effective form of A.I. regulation is global regulation. If the world gets into an A.I. arms race, it will almost certainly guarantee the worst possible outcome.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18
    /business/q-and-a-yuval-harari.html

    Yep, if the NYT can’t use climate change to get you all under a central global control, maybe AI will work!

  20. “President Donald Trump now says that he believes that Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi is dead and that the consequences will be “very severe” if the Saudi government had authorized it.”

    Not enough! If he isn’t jumping up and down and screaming, he’s not doing enough! And if he’s jumping up and down and screaming, he’s not ‘presidential’!
    Impeach him!

    1. I like that people in the media are pitching it like, “Now, Trump admits he might be dead.” Like the comment about ‘rogue killers’ he made immediately after the meeting meant the killers showed up to play canasta or something.

      It’s so bizarre how this happens to this one journalist on Saudi soil and people in the media practically want him to go to war over it but if every reporter in the Charlie Hebdo office gets gunned down, ‘well, they just shouldn’t have been so crass. That’s just the price you pay for free speech’.

      Especially considering that, 6 mos. ago, this was the same Crown Prince that was being lauded for ushering in a modern progressive era into Saudi history.

      1. It’s so bizarre how this happens to this one journalist on Saudi soil and people in the media practically want him to go to war over it

        Sure, not selling someone the weapons they’re using to oppress and starve their neighbors is totally like going to war.

        Wait.

        1. Sure, not selling someone the weapons they’re using to oppress and starve their neighbors is totally like going to war.

          Look, I’m not the one who blurred the lines between sanctions, tariffs, conventional wars, and trade wars but it was a mistake to take advantage of the fuzzy definitions.

          However, the point still stands. How many people were murdered in the Charlie Hebdo offices? Did we sanction anyone? We’re talking about sanctioning the same prince who just won Time Magazine’s reader poll for Person of the Year, right?

        2. Cry baby need a titty? You gonna keep crying about it Cathy? And then fuck some kids?

      2. this happens to this one journalist on Saudi soil

        Turkish soil. Khashoggi disappeared on Turkish soil, not Saudi.

        1. Wrong. The Saudi embassy is Saudi soil.

  21. Footballer dropped from Italian team for supporting far right

    Teammates of Concetta ‘Titty’ Astar?ta refused to play after she was dropped from pro-integration Afro-Napoli side

    https://goo.gl/f8rvK3

  22. Nothing wrong with labeling transfats which have been shown over and over to be toxic. The other things not so much.

    1. Nothing wrong with labeling transfats which have been shown over and over to be toxic.

      Unhealthy, not toxic, and not all trans fats are inherently ‘toxic’ or even necessarily unhealthy.

  23. I never understood Libertarians hated of labeling, it just gives the consumer more information. Not everyone is a fucking microbiologist/nutritionist/PhD in physiology. It’s banning things that bugs the shit out of me.

    1. There is a strain of libertarianism that says even if a company directly poisons consumers the remedy should be legal action for damages instead of a regulation to prevent toxins sold as food/drugs.

      1. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug|10.19.18 @ 10:36AM|#
        “There is a strain of libertarianism that says even if a company directly poisons consumers the remedy should be legal action for damages instead of a regulation to prevent toxins sold as food/drugs.”

        There is a lefty turd who thinks the government is his nanny.

        1. To prohibit the use of certain poisonous substances, or to require special precautions in their use, to limit working hours or to require certain sanitary arrangements, is fully compatible with the preservation of competition. The only question here is whether in the particular instance the advantages gained are greater than the social costs they impose.

          Written by that “lefty turd” F.A. Hayek

            1. You hate classic liberals like Hayek, you stupid bastard.

              You are for TEAM RED. Policy doesn’t matter to you.

              You are a partisan TEAM RED hack.

              1. Remember yesterday when you were caught straight up lying? Good times!

      2. While it’s true that civil liability can and does act as a deterrent to negligent behavior and insurance companies encourage their policy holders to act proactively to prevent certain things, it is also true that criminal negligence, from reckless endangerment to negligent homicide, is a real libertarian thing. Anyone who thinks libertarians don’t think people should face criminal penalties for violating other people’s rights doesn’t know anything about libertarians.

        And anybody who thinks the threat of criminal and civil penalties for violating other people’s rights isn’t a deterrent to violating other people’s rights is an idiot.

    2. There are all sorts of problems with labeling.

      For one, it’s expensive and becomes a barrier of entry into the market, or, in other words, it becomes a means for the government to harass all sorts of people for doing things that shouldn’t be illegal.

      They already go after people for cooking food at home and bringing it somewhere to feed the homeless. How long before they go after small farmers for selling home made, gourmet ice cream at the farmer’s market for not having an accredited laboratory certify every new flavor batch for trans fats or whatever else comes down the pike next week?

      If the market cares about trans fats, competitors will differentiate their products by labeling them saying that their products don’t have them–and then they’ll charge a premium over the competition for the lack of them. At best, forcing labeling is nothing better than inflicting your preferences on others in the market. At worst, it’s rent seeking.

    3. I never understood Libertarians hated of labeling, it just gives the consumer more information. Not everyone is a fucking microbiologist/nutritionist/PhD in physiology. It’s banning things that bugs the shit out of me.

      I don’t disagree with the labeling too much, but it doesn’t have to be mandated and, when it is mandated, the labeling and the banning go hand-in-hand de facto. Expiration dates are not really mandated in any real way and, depending on the food, it can and does become acutely toxic much after the expiration date.

      Moreover, government mandated labeling is doubly retarded as for every study showing that trans fats are bad, there’s at least one government-implemented dietary policy that is/was worse.

      CLA is a trans fat that is widely touted as being beneficial to human health, especially heart disease.

      1. Isn’t the “C” in “CLA” for “cis”?

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

    4. Libertarians are against government forced labeling.

      As we see now, there is so much labeling that much of it does not mean anything or is not helpful.

      Meanwhile every bit of labeling costs the company, therefore the consumer, more money.

    5. Libertarians hate coerced labeling because it distorts the market. Forcing everybody to post calorie counts costs money, and if some people want carb counts and don’t care at all about calorie counts, they probably won’t be served since the money was already spent.

      In a free market, some business wouldn’t label anything and pass the savings on to the consumer, others would label calories for people who think that is relevant, other business would post carb counts, etc…

      A free market is going to provide what the consumer wants. The government is going to provide whatever pin headed notion gets paid for most effectively.

    6. Speaking only for myself, but my problem is simply that with this or any regulation the government (and lovers of government intervention) just never know when to quit.

    7. It is a lot easier to consistantly label preprocessed packaged food than it is for fresh food prepared on site with a number of different options. Mandating labeling creates an inherent bias for the processed food. It limits choice in an indirect fashion that may not even be intended by the supporters of the policy.

  24. Two weeks of Kavanaugh favored the Republicans.

    A week of making Trump defend arms sales to the Saudis favored the Democrats.

    Next week will likely be all about the migrant caravan making its way through Mexico to the U. S. Border.

    I’m not sure how Republicans in swing districts can talk about that in a way that plays to their advantage with undecided voters.

    1. Just run ads showing the coming horde/mob/huddled masses juxtaposed with Trump saying ‘build the wall’ (or Dems saying ‘don’t build a wall’).

      1. We’re talking about appealing to undecided voters in swing states.

        The people who want Trump to build a wall are already voting for the Republicans to keep the House and the Senate.

        The people who are still up for grabs are people who, in a referendum on Trump, might pinch their noses and pull the lever for Trump–in spite of Trump wanting to build a wall to keep out families.

        1. “TECUN UMAN, Guatemala?A caravan of 3,000 Honduran migrants that has drawn the ire of U.S. President Trump began to mass near Guatemala’s border with Mexico, setting up a showdown with Mexican authorities who have vowed to prevent the group from continuing their journey to the U.S.

          Tension was palpable in Ciudad Hidalgo, a tiny tropical village in Mexico surrounded by rain forest and banana plantations that borders Tecun Uman in Guatemala, with the two towns separated by a muddy river. Late Thursday, some 300 Mexican federal police officers equipped with antiriot gear were deployed to the border crossing ahead of the caravan’s expected arrival.”

          —-WSJ, October 19, 2018

          “Migrant Caravan Masses Near Mexico’s Southern Border”

          http://www.wsj.com/articles/mi…..1539952930

          That’s a likely candidate for the source of Monday morning’s front page headlines.

          1. That’s a likely candidate for the source of Monday morning’s front page headlines.

            Is anyone else getting the impression that these caravans may not be entirely organic?

            It just seems odd that 3,000 people just up and leave at the same time and if they’re slowly building to some critical mass over some portion of time, why don’t they have their documents and how, precisely, do you know when the caravan has officially assembled and departed?

            If we were talking about 3,000 people in Myanmar, there’d be a village burned to the ground, or similar, and the total population would of the village would’ve been like 5,000 people or something. When it was a surge of children under one president and a surge of adults under the next, it kinda had the air of randomness. But the fact that these 3,000 people just decide to up an leave at the same time, and that it keeps happening is a bit bizarre and, thanks to the media, unexplained.

            1. Somebody is organizing them, or Trump wouldn’t already be talking about it.

              I don’t know how effective blaming everything on Soros is with swing voters either.

              Trump might do better to talk about jobs and wage growth. Just don’t take the bait.

            2. Well, it’s not like the TV videos show police escorts and barricades set up to protect the marchers or anything. (Question for the lefty feminists: why do the videos show women walking and only men in the trucks?)

              And all those (sort of) well fed and washed ‘refugees’ seem to have magically found a bunch of trucks.
              Where are the videos of what happens each night when the simple uprising of refugees has to stop for the night? Do they simply sit in place and quietly starve, or is ‘someone’ providing food and drink? Where are the marchers digging their latrines? Or is ‘someone’ providing sanitation facilities?
              These guys are better scripted than most reality TV shows – – – – – –

              1. These guys are better scripted than most reality TV shows – – – – – –

                Indeed. It is a rather long walk from Honduras to the U.S. border. And in the footage I’ve seen, the people don’t seem to be carrying a lot of stuff.

            3. Someone should go to Seattle and offer 3,000 liberals indigents homeless people and get them headed north for legal pot and free health care and see what the utopia of Canada does for them at the border.

            4. why don’t they have their documents

              Lol

          2. “A caravan of 3,000 Honduran migrants” is not a good look to be campaigning for.
            I thought the ‘build a wall’ thing was a bunch of b.s. in an overflowing pile of Trumpian b.s. Now? Not so much

            1. Again, you need to consider the audience. We’re not talking about people who already think immigration is necessarily a bad thing.

              Campaigning against destitute and defenseless families isn’t a good look in their minds. Getting the swing vote in the last two weeks is about persuading people who don’t want what you want and don’t like what you like.

        2. They’re commin’ for yer jerbz!

          1. No, they’re coming fer our welfare!

  25. Manchin is up by 6 points in WVa. How does this bode well for GOP taking more senate seats?

    1. Uhhhhh, he’s up because he voted “Yes” to confirm Kavanaugh and he’s basically the last sane democrat left in congress.

      If he had voted “No” he’d be in huge trouble, just like Heitkamp, Donnelly, McCaskill and every other democrat in a tough state is.

    2. He will prove to voters that he is a DINO or he will be out.

      Kavanaugh was one single drop of evidence.

  26. “The City of Montgomery prosecuted Daniel French for destruction of property, after an abortion facility escort manager had him arrested, claiming that he was responsible for breaking a $25 umbrella. The Thomas More Society was able to demonstrate that accusation to be false, and that the umbrella was ruined as an angry abortion clinic escort smashed it over Daniel’s head….

    “Travis Jackson, an abortion clinic escort whose problematic misbehavior was well known, was volunteering the morning of May 18….

    “That particular day, after making vulgar sexual gestures towards Valarie French, Jackson became enraged at her suggestion that his obscenities negated his claim of “championing women’s rights.” He charged toward her waving the umbrella as a weapon, apparently intent on physical assault. Daniel French, who was recording the incident on his phone, stepped toward Jackson, deflecting the umbrella with his hand, shouting, “Don’t you do that to my wife!” With Daniel’s phone still recording, Jackson quickly raised the umbrella and brought it crashing down on Daniel’s head, destroying the umbrella.

    “Later that day, the coordinator of the abortion clinic escorts signed a warrant for the arrest of Daniel French for destruction of property ? the umbrella that Jackson smashed over Daniel’s head.”

    1. “abortion clinic escorts”

      I didn’t see that coming when they shut down backpage

      1. lol

    2. I have no intelligent response to this.

      1. That never holds me back.

  27. “Yiannas’ role will be different than Ostroff’s, with a new title that reflects an ongoing effort to reorganize FDA so the heads of centers, such as the Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, report directly to the commissioner instead of to deputy commissioners,” Politico reports. He’ll head a newly created Office of Food Policy and Response, pending the conclusion of an ongoing review process.

    I saw this “efficiency” move in an episode of Yes, Minister – next they’ll be creating a Department of Budget Cutting and Laying Off Staff that will require a large budget increase and a buttload of new hires to get up and running.

  28. Trump lacks legal authority to send military to U.S.-Mexico border

    CBS thinks this is accurate but the Constitution gives the President absolute discretional use of military to defend the USA border.

    US Constitution, Article II, Section 2:
    The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States….

  29. So Gottleib wants vapers to switch back to the good old, time tested cancer sticks which are already FDA approved

    1. No filters either. Filters are the uncompostable waste from cigarettes and are now on Lefty radar to do something about.

      1. Cigarette filters do degrade over time, and its been like this for a while (except for Parliaments). If you’ve ever observed cigarette butts on the sidewalk, old ones are reduced to little more than paper. Proggies don’t care though, they just want to make tobacco/nicotine as unappealing as possible.

  30. Amazon Revisits Some Cities as HQ2 Decision Looms

    These Lefty cities are so hopeful and it is reflected in the propaganda wing.

    Amazon is leaving a lefty city and would be stupid to move to another city controlled by psycho Lefties who consider Amazon a giant piggy bank.

    Amazon will likely choose an area with low regulation, low government intervention, and high quality of life.

    Unfortunately, this means that traffic will greatly increase in Georgia.

  31. Elizabeth Warren seems to be abandoned. The news dropped her like a bad habit.

    1. Are you saying the press is Indian giving its attention?

      1. I’m not sure, but I have reservations…

      2. As long as nobody Sioux, they will be fine.

      3. The MSM is trying to Pawnee her off until some better time.

    2. I think this is the idea – when she’s back in the headlines, the “Indian” thing will be Old News, so all the discussion will be about her courageous run for President on behalf of working people of all races and all genders, etc.

      1. #shepersisted

      2. #PeruvianColumbianMexicanTribesVSGermanTribe

    3. cold front. migrating south.

  32. We’re also working on updating the definition of the claim “healthy” on food labels…

    English teachers disappointed the new regulation isn’t about requiring the word, “healthful”, on labels.

  33. Tighter regulations for e-cigs? The FDA must be on the payroll of Big Tobacco! 😉

  34. The FDA; 5.1 billion ways to cut federal spending.

  35. >>>Just met with @realDonaldTrump and @SecPompeo

    are those people?

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