Clinton Campaign to Release Health Docs, Schumer Also Had Pneumonia, Arson at Mosque of Orlando Shooter: P.M. Links

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  Oakes De Mandeville/Sipa USA/Newscom

  Now that the Hillary Clinton campaign can't actually hide information about Clinton's health, they're going to release additional medical records this week.

• New York Sen. Chuck Schumer also recently had pneumonia.
• Somebody appears to have set the Florida mosque where Orlando shooter Omar Mateen attended on fire, authorities say. Nobody was at the mosque at the time and firefighters were able to extinguish the flames.
• Somebody trashed a September 11 memorial at Occidental College in Los Angeles.
• Former British Prime Minister David Cameron is resigning from Parliament, effective immediately.
• Eleven people, including seven children, were killed in a house fire in Memphis.
• "Pennsylvania Woman Injured After Being Struck by a Fish That Fell From the Sky."

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Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

...they're going to release additional medical records this week.

Diagnosis: The vapers.

[The Fusionist]

I knew vaping was dangerous!

[bacon-magic]

I'm a vaper, and I say "what difference, at this point, does it make?"

[PurityDiluting]

that should be Trump's reply the next time someone asks him a birther question

[Homple]

You'se a vaper.

[Heroic Mulatto]

You'se a vaper.

*applauds*

[This Machine]

Clinton aide says, 'We could have done better' amid criticism of health disclosures.

Aaaaand the understatement of the week (and it's only Monday, folks!) goes to... the Clinton Campaign! Give yourselves a hand folks. Several hands actually. Help yourselves into a waiting cab. Don't forget your shoes.

[Tonio]

Instead of remedying that, or promising to remedy that...

[That's A Bingo!]

Could've kidnapped that Czech guy and deleted his video. Then no one would have known.

[Auric Demonocles]

Bring back that sugarcoating mean from a couple of years ago.

[KDN]

I'm not going to sugarcoat it: you've had better ideas, and your posts typically use the correct words.

[Auric Demonocles]

I think that might have been too soft on me.

[Ted S.]

You think she's turning Japanese?

[Anomalous]

I really think so.

[Libertarian]

That's *hysterical*.

[Brett L]

This is the best conspiracy theory yet. I am uncertain whether they are promoting that Hillary is dead, or just unable to leave Chelsea's apartment.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Weekend at Chelsea's?

[KDN]

Hillary's the corpse, therefore it's Weekend at Hillary's.

[mad.casual]

I don't know, the one in sunglasses and a wig looks an awful lot like Kevin Kline. The real question is can "she" sing?

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

Thank you.

[thrakkorzog]

It's almost like the Chairman Mao look isn't very flattering.

[Hyperion]

So it's been replaced with the Ozzy look.

[Rhywun]

LOL that's awesome

[Suthenboy]

I hate shit like that. I don't want to be a conspiracy nut but when you are dealing with someone who has a long history of never letting the truth pass their lips and no lie is too big it starts to seem more reasonable just on its face. Then you see photos of her and her 'twin' from years ago and cant pick which is which with side by sides 40 years apart...

Good grief.

[Brett L]

Its crazier than the rats at an old paint factory, but it does make me feel better about myself that I don't believe they'd try to pass off a body double.

[Ted S.]

What about rats in school?

[mad.casual]

Then you see photos of her and her 'twin' from years ago and cant pick which is which with side by sides 40 years apart...

With the sunglasses, she looks an awful lot like Ted Kaczynski.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Same people skills too.

[Bill Dalasio]

The only conspiracy theory I'm buying into is that the Clinton camp is behind the body double conspiracy theory. It would be the ideal opportunity to discredit the opposition.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

THE NOSE IS DIFFERENT!!

I, for one, don't want to look at extreme close ups of Hillary Clinton's features.

[Juice]

Lots of stuff is different. At first I rolled my eyes, but after looking at some of those pics...I have to admit that it sure doesn't look like the same person.

[Tyler.C]

Sometimes when you're a shape shifting reptilian you can't get it just the same.

[C. Anacreon]

When I first saw the video of her coming out of the apartment building yesterday, I remember thinking, 'wow, she's much more attractive than I remember. Is it the lighting, her clothes, sunglasses, what?"

Maybe it's just that it wasn't her.

[Trials and Trippelations]

The after looks like her TV self (Tea Leoni impersonating her on Madame Secretary).

[Trials and Trippelations]

Maybe its just the glasses that make me think that

[Suell]

I don't want to believe... but wasn't it a bit weird that she waltzed out of that apartment building with no Secret Service agents near her?

[Rhywun]

No, because it wasn't her.

[jesse.in.mb]

15 comments in this subthread and not one person referenced 1993 cinematic masterpiece Dave!?

I'm not even sure I belong here anymore.

[C. Anacreon]

did you miss this upthread?

mad.casual|9.12.16 @ 5:09PM|#

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

You still conscious with that heat wave in Quebec? Oh, nm, single payer health care.

[Rufus The Monocled]

We had a heat wave?

[Careless]

Matthew YglesiasVerified account
?@mattyglesias
You don't see people overheating in Canada and Sweden where they have single-payer health care and less inequality.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Does anyone else find this strange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azUpfzDNxpw

[Crusty Juggler]

My guess: someone in the crowed waved their dongle at her. It happens.

[Hyperion]

No, I think it's right in line with the other spells that she's been having with the jerky movements and the fainting/falling. She's most definitely suffering from some chronic progressive condition. She's about ready to have one of her seizure like episodes there, but was able to snap out of it that time.

The one thing I am starting to find really strange is what some people were pointing out here yesterday, who had seen the 911 episode before I did, is that the people surrounding her don't seem to have any reaction of surprise or alarm at all. They obviously expect this and I suspect it's getting more frequent to the point that they expect in on a very regular basis.

[Ted S.]

The possibility that it might happen at the debate is almost enough to make me watch.

[Bill Dalasio]

So, is Trump going to bring a strobe light?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Maybe the debate should consist of an egg-cup race.

[thrakkorzog]

No, no he'll probably just be watching some old Pokemon episodes on his phone in such a way that Hillary can see it.

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

Obligatory

https://youtu.be/_5V8RjQLiIw

[SFC B]

Most of the people who are there with her are almost certainly professional and experienced bodyguards and Secret Service agents. "VIP Passing out in public and needing to be sped away" is a scenario they undoubtedly train for.

It's the people immediately near her, the personal aides and such, who don't react that makes me believe this isn't an unusual thing.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

It's the people immediately near her, the personal aides and such, who don't react that makes me believe this isn't an unusual thing.

I'm guessing the personal aids don't react because they know they're in the middle of a campaign, and anything they do, including an errant facial or emotional expression can be seized upon. Shorter: They're trained too. Also, it may NOT be an unusual thing to those personal aids-- the ones most likely to know her serious health conditions- if any exist.

I was slow to start paying attention to the Hillary/Health controversy because the whole thing seemed a much-a-do about nothing. And one of the videos purporting to show a seizure was (at least to me) clearly an affected reaction to someone asking her a question-- not a seizure. However, the recent stuff where she has CLEARLY shown some adverse reactions or collapses tells me that yes, something is going on. The only question remaining: Is it a serious condition like Parkinson's (as some have suggested) or is in fact just walking pneumonia that will go away with some bed rest.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Ha! "personal aids". that could also be the problem.

[prolefeed]

She's most definitely suffering from some chronic progressive condition.

And her health is bad, too.

[Trigger Warning]

Win.

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

She repeats the SS guy "Keep talking" like she heard him as an earpiece ...

Then, totally OT, she blames The Trumps for killing animals ... and how many humans have the Clintons killed?

BAD ROBOT.

[BigT]

Parkinson's. The most recent episode is consistent with several things, but the s verbal years history seems to suggest Parkinson's.

http://www.thepostemail.com/20.....s-disease/

[CZmacure]

the s verbal years history seems to suggest

Yeah, and what's your excuse?

[PurityDiluting]

"Does anyone else find this strange"
Yes. That and the 'try the chocolate chai' one could use some explaining.

[Fist of Etiquette]

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer also recently had pneumonia.

Hidden under that ample bosom.

[Injun, as in from India]

Is pneumonia sexually transmitted?

[The Fusionist]

The only STD Schumer can transmit is suffocation.

[This Machine]

Good gugu mugou, Eddie, that is complete savagery! From a Papist, no less!

Very well done.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

But only to a chicken.

[thrakkorzog]

Good thing I wasn't planning on voting for him either.

[Rhywun]

Bad thing is I was planning on eating later.

[C. Anacreon]

There's Schumer with a capital S,
And that letter's followed by T,
Which stands for Tumor!
And that rhymes with Schumer.

/Music Man

[Playa Manhattan.]

From the link:
"Clinton left the ceremony before it concluded, and could later be seen on video being helped into a car."

Helped into a car? The fuck outta here.

[bacon-magic]

I've been helped out of strip clubs like that before.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

That's some serious pole dancing, bacon-magic.

[bacon-magic]

No, that is some serious zero balance bank account dancing. Or negative balance...

[Chipper Morning Wood]

You are supposed to be MAKING money, not spending it.

[bacon-magic]

I'm not pretty and I'm a guy that wears khaki pants. *runs away crying screaming "Jake from State Farm and I am hideous!"

[TheZeitgeist]

Helped into a car? The fuck outta here.

Looked like Bill Cosby's date getting into the Scooby Van.

Next motif is going to be what internally is referred to as 'Captain Pike.'

[gaoxiaen]

And her Companion.

[Playa Manhattan.]

It isn't "helping" when the bouncers do it either.

[bacon-magic]

That's why I didn't thank them.

[Agammamon]

He didn't know how many it would take to actually throw him out - he knew how many they were going to *use* though.

[robc]

All the way to the scene of the crash.

[Cyto]

That's a handy piece of information to have....

[OneOut]

Are you the Tater ?

"You got me."

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Eddie Murphy to Charlie Murphy after beating up Rick James and watching drive off in the limo: Man, maybe we shoulda helped him out.

Eddie: Yo man, we DID help him out.

[BigT]

Seen Mrs Schumer? That's old-monia.

[ant1sthenes]

Let's be honest, they both had mono.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Pennsylvania Woman Injured After Being Struck by a Fish That Fell From the Sky."

And it went on to save Pittsburgh.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Because Philly is beyond saving, amirite?

[PBR Streetgang]

**Nods sadly and wanders off to Wawa for a soft pretzel**

[Auric Demonocles]

This sounds like a Ankh-Morpork Times headline.

[Jerryskids]

"Pennsylvania Woman Injured After Being Struck by a Fish That Fell From the Sky."

Simpson's Monty Python did it.

[Playa Manhattan.]

"Now that the Hillary Clinton campaign can't actually hide information about Clinton's health, they're going to release additional medical records this week."

Sure they are. Sure they are.

[The Fusionist]

It said "additional" records, not all the records.

Like with the server thing.

[bacon-magic]

Go read some of the NYT's comment section. Shills for Shrillary should be a trademarked name.

[Tonio]

I'm sure that there are people on staff (for all major campaigns) whose only job is to shill for the candidate in comments sections, etc. Aided, of course, by unpaid True Believers.

[bacon-magic]

True Tonio. That should be your stage name also.

[Injun, as in from India]

people on staff (for all major campaigns) whose only job is to shill for the candidate

But Tonio, if it's people commenting to support Trump, they're Russian. We need to remember that. 😉

[Tonio]

[high fives Injun]

[Suthenboy]

Yes there are.

Anyone else notice that the lefty shills that used to infest these boards and defend Obumbles every move have almost disappeared now that The Lightbringer is on his way out?

[Free Society]

He's out of political capital. He has no more favors to do them.

[BigT]

Went back to Kenya?

[Zeb]

They didn't say they'd release all of them. Or anything that anyone is interested in.

I just want to know if that hole in the tongue thing is legit. And if she has some serious illness.

Or maybe I don't. I'm considering the possibility that Clinton getting elected and then promptly dying might be the best outcome of this election.

[The Fusionist]

Like I say, once she wins (if she does), she could go to the Lincoln bedroom and watch House of Cards while Kaine runs things.

Bill would be appointed "ambassador extraordinary of awesomness" and sent on "goodwill tours," giving him a chance to line up future clients for his foundation and getting him out of Kaine's hair.

[bacon-magic]

Bill would be "ambassador of Epstein Island".

[Rufus The Monocled]

'Bill...'
'Yes dear?'
'Would you kill people for me like Francis does?'
'If it makes us stronger...'

[BigT]

Bill Clinton called today for the first First Spouses summit on Pleasure Island. Only First Spouses and their personal assistants will be admitted.

[C. Anacreon]

Who gets first dibs on Laura Bush?

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

I'd nominate Crusty, but he's probably already eyeing Barbara

[TheZeitgeist]

Slick's always wanted to be JFK in a way, and these days Jackie O can't say no.

[BigT]

I was thinking more International spouses... Putin's squeeze, Trudeau's lady, etc

[Tonio]

Once she has been inaugurated she's got her place in the history books.

[C. Anacreon]

Bingo. I think that's all she wants and doesn't care a rat's ass about actually leading the country.

As long as she can hang on long enough to take the oath of office, even if it's from her deathbed, she'll go down forever as the first woman President in US history.

If she makes it that far, I'm guessing as soon as she's sworn in, she exhales, and then it's just a countdown.

[John Titor]

Also known as the "Kim Campbell" method.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Oh, I'm sure she wants to start a war or two and claim her Nobel Peace Prize for 'fixing' this or that region before she goes out.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

think that's all she wants and doesn't care a rat's ass about actually leading the country.

Exactly. Her tenure as Secretary of State was only to give her something high profile to put on her resume while she waited out Barry's term. The various email dumps show that she was primarily focused on her portrayal in the media.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Well, that, and the hundreds of millions of dollars in bribes.

[MarkLastname]

I agree; people around here like to say the Clintons are all about money and power, and I disagree. It's all about their legacy. Certainly now. Everything comes down to the family legacy. They'll do anything to get that host of buildings named after them that come with 'making history.'

[Red Rocks Okey-Dokein]

They didn't say they'd release all of them. Or anything that anyone is interested in.

Hold up, so you're saying a woman who claimed that she turned over all her "work-related" emails because the rest were her yoga schedule and banana bread recipes, only for that number to be about 15,000-30,000 short, might not be completely forthcoming about her health records? Why are you such a misogynist?

[Zeb]

Yes.

[Suthenboy]

I mentioned the hole in the tongue thing to a buddy of mine, speculating what it could be. His reply?

"It's some kinda pussy lickin' disease. Which one don't matter."

[Zeb]

That was good for a chortle.

[Suell]

Imaging that said in an awesome southern accent makes it even better.

[Zeb]

That's definitely how I imagined it.

[C. Anacreon]

I knew a southern gentleman back in college, who made it clear his feelings on pussy-lickin':

"Anybody who'd lick a hole would lick a goddam pole, and I ain't no queer."

[Zeb]

That's an interesting theory.

[MarkLastname]

That's actually not an uncommon attitude in certain traditional cultures. Ever watch the sopranos? There's a character that gets in some trouble when his lady friend gossips about his oral skills. In the Mafia, cunnilingus is somewhat taboo; it's said that a man who will suck a pussy will suck anything.

[W. Chipper Dove]

[immediately tears up application to join La Cosa Nostra]

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

So, did he have problems differentiating shapes, or not understand biology...?

[CZmacure]

How'd he feel about Ice Cream Cones?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I say again, she needs to pick a running mate so we know who's going to be president for the next eight years.

[ant1sthenes]

Uh, wasn't Kaine involved with the Sandanistas or something? It can always be worse.

[Zeb]

I actually know very little about him. Could well be worse, but it's hard to imagine.

[Brett L]

Ladies and gentlemen, the next POTUS. Joe Biden is the luckiest sonofabitch in the world. Can you imagine? Zero campaigning and wins the Presidency in the only way he ever possibly could. Just wait, you'll see.

[Pan Zagloba]

Please hurry, I want Biden-Trump debate so badly! In my dreams it's like Basil Fawlty arguing with Manuel. Except they are both characters at different times.

[tarran]

Que?!?

[Zeb]

I know noooothing.

[Agammamon]

No, no Senor, not 'too much ham', its 'uno, dos, tres'.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Oh, oh! Si, si, si! My hamster...

[Chipper Morning Wood]

And Gary could be the gnome statue.

"You want a podium spot for heeeeem??"

[Lee Genes]

If that comes true, I'm going to have to eat some serious crow because my wife called it over a year ago.

[prolefeed]

"The 20th Amendment states that if the president-elect dies before beginning his term, then the vice president-elect assumes his or her spot. However, the point at which a candidate officially becomes "president-elect" is debatable."

Biden only becomes president if Obama dies or is incapacitated. If Hillary wins, then dies, then it is Kaine.

Not sure what happens if Hillary dies, and then wins the election anyway ... I'm guessing a constitutional shitstorm of epic proportions.

[MarkLastname]

The first corpse president? That's kinda making history.

[BigT]

"Now that the Hillary Clinton campaign can't actually hide information about Clinton's health, they're going to release additional medical records this week."

Someone deep in the bowels of the DNC is writing those records this very moment.

[Rhywun]

They've got their Creative Writing intern who's read a bunch of medical thrillers working on it.

[Emmerson Biggins]

Well, cmon, cut them some slack. They don't know what they are supposed to say yet. They have to think about it a little bit first.

[That's A Bingo!]

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer also recently had pneumonia.

He's with her.

[Playa Manhattan.]

So is that little girl she hugged.

[Zeb]

But Chuck is all grown up. With tits and everything.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I was referring to this.

But she likely didn't infect that little girl. I find using her as a prop to be far more objectionable.

[That's A Bingo!]

That moment is literally right out of the movie "Wag the Dog."

[Brett L]

A friend pointed out that aspirational pneumonia is (a)not catching and (b)one of the biggest killers of Parkinson's Disease patients. See? She's not lying or trying to kill that little girl! Just dying of an irreversible neurodegenerative disease.

[Red Rocks Okey-Dokein]

A friend pointed out that aspirational pneumonia is (a)not catching and (b)one of the biggest killers of Parkinson's Disease patients

I mentioned that earlier today--if it's normal pneumonia, a 70-year-old woman probably shouldn't be out glad-handing at a PR event and taking photo-ops, even if they did put her on antibiotics on Friday. If it's aspirational pneumonia, then that's actually worse because she's showing Parkinsons-like symptoms.

[Playa Manhattan.]

She's 68, but anthropologist would probably date her at at least 78 years old.

[Agammamon]

+/- 10,000 years.

[mad.casual]

This was the first thing that occurred to me. Clinton going into her would-be presidency is in worse shape than Reagan was coming out.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

That's what women do, Red Rocks. They glad-hand while suffering [pneumonia].

[Zeb]

I misread your comment as "so that's the little girl she hugged".

[Playa Manhattan.]

I'm so confused and aroused.

[OneOut]

"But she likely didn't infect that little girl. "

I didn't know Parkinsons was contagious ?

[GILMORE?]

Does the Clinton campaign keep a stable of children on hand to run decoy-duty, or was that one delivered special-order for the moment? (then 'disposed of' so as not to draw further press-attention)

[Playa Manhattan.]

No idea. But Martin Shkreli was yelling shit at her from across the street the entire time, so it wasn't all bad.

Hat tip Jesse.

[Suell]

I kept wondering who Pharmabro was reminding me of till my kids were watching Wild Kratts again the other day and I saw the evil dude that is always messing things up for the Kratt brothers. He is a dead ringer.

[GILMORE?]

"Shit!! Shit!!! SHIT!!!"

(waves wu-tang record)

"Triple Shit!!"

[C. Anacreon]

"Cute little girl, run up and hug Mrs. Clinton and tell her she's your hero."

"And then, yes, Mommy and Daddy will get to come home."

[Hyperion]

That poor kid will probably be traumatized for life by the site of that creepy bug eyed goon trying to grope her.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Are we talking about the little girl or Martin Shkreli?

[Rhywun]

Yes.

[Suthenboy]

"So is that little girl she hugged."

Has anyone in the MSM speculated as to why Cankles is trying to transmit her contagious pneumonia to a child?

[Playa Manhattan.]

In her defense, she probably didn't know that the lie would be pneumonia at the time she hugged that little girl.

[Kevin Sorbos Manful Locks]

She wiped her hands clean with a cloth.

[spqr2008]

Or did she use a little bit of bleach?

[waffles]

I guess that's the implication. Ewwww...shudders. I sudden'y had the horrifying glimpse of reality where Sugarfree's stories are nonfiction.

[Ted S.]

I wouldn't be surprised if he were making it up.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Streptococcus: I am with her.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Somebody trashed a September 11 memorial at Occidental College in Los Angeles.

Was it Muslim radicals????

[Zeb]

They flew drones into the tower shaped stacks of Diet Coke 12 packs.

[gaoxiaen]

Pepsi drones.

[C. Anacreon]

I'm sure it was just an occident.

[Trigger Warning]

Booooooo. But I laughed anyway.

[Tonio]

I have come to the conclusion that the Suicide Prevention industry is effectively part of the Grabber movement. Past week was suicide prevention week and one of the pieces of propaganda I saw listed "possession of lethal means" as a Warning Sign that the person was contemplating suicide.

[That's A Bingo!]

I have a rope and a chair. Lethal means?

[Libertarian]

A fatal end justifies the lethal means?

[Playa Manhattan.]

So am I contemplating suicide times 12?

[Playa Manhattan.]

Oops. 2 cars in the garage too. Times 14.

[waffles]

As far as I'm concerned you're already dead 14 times over and therefore a lost cause. We need to reach the children.

[This Machine]

I'm contemplating suicide more than I need, but far, far, less than I want, apparently.

[Zeb]

I just had everything out for a good cleaning and oiling this past weekend. I had no idea how at risk for suicide I was.

[just in case any totally humorless fucks are watching, I have never come remotely close to contemplating suicide]

[Chipper Morning Wood]

So you are not married?

[Zeb]

Well, I am.

And I think I'm completely missing a joke.

[Playa Manhattan.]

A marriage joke.

[Zeb]

Yeah. I'm not so on the ball today.

We're talking about suicide, here, not murder.

[also a joke]

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

By that you mean "marriage"

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

No one needs twelve guns.

[Zeb]

I do. Pretty soon I'll probably need 13.

[Brett L]

I mean, not until the first 11 are shot dry and there are still bad guys out there.

[MarkLastname]

In other words, you're Charles Bronson?

[Citizen X]

My kitchen is full of knives. There's all kinds of poisonous chemicals under the sink. My house is tall enough that i could do serious harm to myself by jumping off the roof, and i have a couple tons of metal parked out front that, powered by explosions, could hurtle me into any number of dangerous situations at over a hundred miles an hour. Somebody keep an eye on me.

[bacon-magic]

Looks like someone is giving you lots of hints but you aren't listening. Listen!

[kbolino]

In other news, wet streets cause rain...

[Agent Cooper]

+1 Speilberged.

[Chipwooder]

Yes, the anti-2A crowd has really been hitting the suicide angle hard lately.

[C. Anacreon]

I've actually participated in several panels reviewing research on suicide risk for national guidelines. There were definitely people on the panels who wanted 'gun ownership' to be listed as a risk, and therefore felt a question on 'access to firearms' should be asked of all patients presenting to ERs (!). Unfortunately for them, the literature does not show any increased risk for suicide in gun owners over non-owners.

What the literature does say is that of people making suicide attempts, those who are gun owners are more likely to use a gun as their method of suicide. Further, because of this, they have a higher likelihood of being successful in their suicide attempts than people who don't have access to a gun. But neither of these says gun ownership raises risk overall, it just raises the risk of agent choice for those people actively suicidal.

It has been amazing, however, to see people try to conflate the 'choice of method' points as reasons for more gun control. So far, cooler heads have prevailed, but I expect these same people will continue to press this as much as they can.

[kbolino]

So far, cooler heads have prevailed, but I expect these same people will continue to press this as much as they can.

And they'll eventually succeed, by the same mechanism they've used everywhere else: wear down the opposition until they are unwilling or unable to resist any more. Proof by cult.

[bacon-magic]

I sell rope, does that make me a murderer or just an accomplice?

[waffles]

Yes.

[MarkLastname]

In their defense, they may be referring to someone apparently procuring the means to commit suicide. For example, if a depressed neighbor with no interest in guns suddenly decides has a revolver with one bullet in the living room, one might call that a warning sign.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Somebody appears to have set the Florida mosque where Orlando shooter Omar Mateen attended on fire...

Was it Muslim radicals????

[BigT]

The gay avenger!

[Jerryskids]

There's a light in the darkness of everybody's life.

[Brett L]

Florida Man Killed Testing "Bulletproof" Vest. No further comment needed.

[Crusty Juggler]

"You're a sick motherfucker, Mac."

[Ted S.]

"Hold my beer"?

[Pan Zagloba]

Christ, people, Witcher 3 is NOT a how-to manual.

[bacon-magic]

I've only played about 2 hours of Witcher 3...need to pick it up again.

[Glide]

Nice, I loved that game and even I didn't think of that reference.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Why don't more people test seatbelts like that?

[jesse.in.mb]

*pours one out for Florida Man*

I was wondering where he'd been lately.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

One 55 gallon drum of lube?

[jesse.in.mb]

Maybe the water-based one. The silicone-water blend is too pricey to just pour out, even if it is for Florida Man.

Y'all should've purchased last time I mentioned it, the price went up on the water based.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I mean, how do you even use that? Do you fill up a zip lock bag before you go on a date?

[Crusty Juggler]

Travel size bottles, bro. Take a few, just in case.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Hey, don't take the visual image of Jesse filling zip lock backs with lube away from me.

[Crusty Juggler]

Chimowo, some men do fill zip-lock bags with lube, but those bags are not used for travel, they are used for a completely different purpose.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Go on...

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

The last person who asked Crusty to "go on" regretted it dearly.

[Pan Zagloba]

To truly honor the Florida Man, lube should be home-made, from readily available ingredients.

[Brett L]

Meth, iguana fat, and capybara blood.

[jesse.in.mb]

Quincy has a recipe for you. Here's an empty 55 gallon drum.

[Pan Zagloba]

*sniffs, lets out a single manly tear*

I love this forum!

[Krabappel]

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer also recently had pneumonia

There is a SugarFree story yet to be written, here.

[The Fusionist]

And may it remain unwritten.

[Krabappel]

Charles grabbed Hillary's hand and placed it over his meaty chest...

[Crusty Juggler]

He does have an ample bosom.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

In this story, does he get titty-fucked by a pseudo-penis?

Cause Hillary would.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Yeah, but not really "meaty". It's more like a pair of sunny-side-up eggs hanging on rusty nails.

[Rhywun]

"If you don't knock it off, I'm going to blow this rainbow whistle."

[Dinosaur-Neil]

I wonder how he got those beads.

[Citizen X]

Almost casually, one of her fingernails pierced the skin above his steaming nipple, digging out a carrot-sized divot of pale flesh with the odor and consistency of old yogurt. The bloodless wound closed with a soft sucking sound.

"Yes, Mother," he moaned.

[Tonio]

Stop that.

[Libertarian]

So it turned you on too?

[Citizen X]

I blame Krabappel, and SugarFree, and that i wasn't raised right.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

If my house was a veritable museum of death traps like yours, I would probably turned out all SugarFreed as well.

[Lee Genes]

Come on man. You know I live not far from you and that fact is going to keep me up at night now.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Former British Prime Minister David Cameron is resigning from Parliament, effective immediately.

I thought they already had some broad on deck or whatever the cricket term would be.

[Agent Cooper]

He went back to being a regular old MP but now he's not even that, I suppose. Another Brexit casualty!

[Injun, as in from India]

This was a huge fall from grace. From PM to Invisible Man in 2 1/2 months.

He may make a political comeback, but it's looking quite bleak right now.

[DJF]

He was just hanging around Parliament, probably using it as a mail address while he tries getting a new gig.

[Tonio]

You know who else hung around Parliament? (Hint: recently deceased)

[Injun, as in from India]

Guy Fawkes?

[bacon-magic]

Madhya Predesh?

[Citizen X]

Any number of homely prostitutes?

[Injun, as in from India]

If you're talking about the Indian parliament, Lashkar-e-Toiba militants in 2001?

[Tonio]

Bernie Fucking Worrell, bitches. Will be missed.

[Get To Da Chippah]

I was going to say Guy Fawkes...

[PBR Streetgang]

Bootsy Collins?

[Injun, as in from India]

Deck would be pavilion. Cameron heads back to pavilion after getting clean bowled by the Brexit yorker. Theresa May walks in, bat in hand, ready to hit a sixer.

[Citizen X]

Look, British people, just because the English language originated on your island doesn't mean you get to just make up words whenever.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I think you're addressing a colonist.

[Citizen X]

I'm addressing the room, Injun merely set me off.

[PurityDiluting]

you're addressing the room? I thought this was a basket

[Injun, as in from India]

I thought this was a basket

...of deplorables?

[Injun, as in from India]

Cricket is actually a really cool game. I would still watch it if it wasn't so corrupt and match-fixing wasn't so pervasive.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

But unless that changes, you are gonna stick with the second most popular sport in India: cricket.

[Brett L]

You know, if people knew what the rules were, match-fixing would be more difficult.

[Fist of Etiquette]

DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT

[Suthenboy]

On my visit to the island I had trouble understanding people and would ask them to repeat fairly often. They would get annoyed and say something so I would retort "Well, we wouldn't have this problem if you would learn to speak English!"

Yeah. It was a big hit.

*Oddly, none of them had trouble understanding me

[Brett L]

They're used to Francophones with bad English showing up and acting like they own the place.

[BigT]

They watch lots of American TV

[Playa Manhattan.]

The cricket term is "pinching a loaf".

[C. Anacreon]

I thought they already had some broad on deck or whatever the cricket term would be.

This may be one of your all-time best lines.

[That's A Bingo!]

Now that the Hillary Clinton campaign can't actually hide information about Clinton's health

Funny.

[Crusty Juggler]

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer also recently had pneumonia.

I had pneumonia!

[bacon-magic]

Crusty gave me pneumonia.

[RBS]

That's not pneumonia...

[bacon-magic]

You mean Crusty LIED? All he kept saying was "would, would, would" and it was sweet music to my ears. Now I have nothing to live for. Let me count all of the suicide implements I have on hand and contemplate this on my Tree of Rope.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

"I got better."

[grrizzly]

But was it aspiration pneumonia?

[Dinosaur-Neil]

You have to follow your dreams.

[Krabappel]

I can picture him describing all of his symptoms in that nasally, whiny accent.

[Private Chipperbot]

I had pnuemonia!

Trying to help in getting the I am Spartacus thing going but everyone missed the bus.

[Playa Manhattan.]

No, I had pneumonia!

We are all pneumonia.

[Krabappel]

We're all Tulpa with pneumonia.

[bacon-magic]

Tulpa = pneumonia

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Being Tulpa is an aspiration?

[Playa Manhattan.]

Infection. Community acquired. Recurrent.

[Jerryskids]

Being Tulpa is the kind of pneumonia where it burns when you pee.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I gave Winston's mom some new moan, ya.

[Pan Zagloba]

Today our Beloved State Broadcaster attempted to teach us idiots about The Economic Sciences.

"The economy today is much more confusing than it used to be," says Benjamin Tal, deputy chief economist with CIBC World Markets. "We used to have a normal economic cycle where the economy goes up, inflation goes up, you raise interest rates, you go into a recession and then you cut interest rates and everything goes back to normal."

"Now we have a situation where it's not working," he says.

Policy-makers from Tokyo, Frankfurt and Washington have tried everything to spark a recovery. After traditional methods didn't work, they turned to modern-day central bank alchemy ? everything from negative interest rates to quantitative easing. And still, eight years after the great recession, the global economy remains stuck in the mud.

Sacr? bleu! What is one to do when Top Men are confused? Answer: Thomas Piketty. He has us covered.

[Ted S.]

They haven't tried getting the state the hell out of the way.

[PurityDiluting]

Paging Gov. Veto. Gov. Veto, please pick up the white courtesy phone

[gagster]

That's what caused the problem in the first place.

/obama

[Rufus The Monocled]

Knights of the Retarded Table.

[Brett L]

Gee, maybe they should try, I don't know, not printing money, and raising interest rates high enough to drive out malinvestment?

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

"The economy today is much more confusing than it used to be."

Or maybe your previous understanding was stupid and simple.

[Lee Genes]

Let me try for you.

When all the fiat currencies are in a race to the bottom and the central banks are actively propping up the stock markets, it becomes very difficult to know when the bible is going to pop. But rest assured, it will.

[Pan Zagloba]

when the bible is going to pop

Almost John-like quality!

[Lee Genes]

Argh autocorrect

[Juice]

It NEVER worked. EVER.

[Juvenile Bluster]

From that Occidental College link: I can't even.

The student group, Coalition Oxy For Diversity and Equity, posted a statement on Facebook saying "we were concerned by the complete disregard for the various peoples affected by this history."

"When this institution allows thousands of American flags to be placed in the center of campus it speaks volumes to the students that have lived their lives under the oppression of this flag," the group wrote. "From Native students whose land was stolen to undocumented students who live in fear of deportation to Black students who see their communities destroyed by state sanctioned murder, this school is saying your fear and trauma do not matter here."

Students, they said, were confused by the display and asking about its purpose.

"This is not a critique of desiring to remember the fallen, this is a critique of failing to comprehend who, or what, has been lost," the group said. To this end, we wanted to provide more information and more context in order to center the actual lives and individuals affected by 9/11 rather than a simply placing a symbol of one nation.

[RBS]

The American flag is literally responsible for every terrible thing in history.

[Juvenile Bluster]

The thing is, I'm perfectly fine with the NFL flag protests right now. The National Anthem being played at sporting events is completely meaningless. And I've been debating whether to teach the kid not to stand for the pledge when she gets older.

But destroying somebody else's display is far different. And their reasoning is just asinine.

[Suthenboy]

Those are true, textbook useful idiots. Every single bit of that is horseshit, makes no sense whatsoever, and is just the parroting of talking points they have been brainwashed with. Every bit of it.

Just wait until they are out of school. That is when the real fun begins.

[Bill Dalasio]

But destroying somebody else's display is far different.

You don't understand, JB. The flags hurt their feelings! And they're such enlightened, woke, little snowflakes that their feelings take precedence over those icky conservatives "property" rights.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...we were concerned by the complete disregard for the various peoples affected by this history.

It's lack of regard all the way down.

[Cyto]

In their defense, they were probably only 3 or 4 years old on 9/11 and as such have no knowledge of the events or people involved. They also have been rendered functionally retarded by years of preparing for parroting progressive talking points to their humanities professors.

So have a little regard for their plight.

[This Machine]

RRRRRRRRRRETARDS.

[Ted S.]

Students, they said, were confused by the display and asking about its purpose.

And yet the admissions department thought they were competent enough to attend?

[Playa Manhattan.]

Calendars are oppressive too.

[jesse.in.mb]

You know, if we operated on the French Revolutionary calendar.

Happy D?cade III, Sextidi de Fructidor de l'Ann?e CCXXIV de la Revolution, Playa.

[thrakkorzog]

Next up, they can investigate why everybody's mom is dressing them funny on Oct. 31st.

[C. Anacreon]

How much longer until these people are in charge?

New national slogan may then be: 'USA -- It Was Nice While It Lasted'.

[Rhywun]

How much longer until these people are in charge?

They already are, if the current occupant of the White House is any indicator.

[DJF]

"""undocumented students who live in fear of deportation"""

Wouldn't they be happy being deported so they no longer have to live under the "oppression of this flag"?

[PBR Streetgang]

??!! Oh. That's a good point.

[B.P.]

The food is terrible and the portions so small, etc.

[Injun, as in from India]

more context in order to center the actual lives and individuals affected by 9/11 rather than a simply placing a symbol of one nation

So much derp.

Version 2.0 pf 9/11 trutherism/revisionism. It wasn't the US that was affected. We have to figure out who the actual affected lives and individuals were.

[Ted S.]

Non-Americans were most affected, as they lost their American friends and relatives.

[perlchpr]

Well, thus far, I'd say Afghanistan has been more affected by 9/11 than America was.

[Bubba Jones]

That was a choice. All they had to do was turn over one SOB.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Disgusting.

[jesse.in.mb]

Negative stories about Occidental make me happier than they should. Stupid Oxy.

[Ted S.]

It didn't get rid of your zits?

[jesse.in.mb]

Sadly, no.

Occidental was theoretically my school's rival and legend has it we changed mascots from the Squirrels to the Poets because Oxy used to litter our campus with dead squirrels, so we chose something less likely to get murdered by college students (but just barely).

[Playa Manhattan.]

Gene gene made a machine
Jo Jo made it go

[Lee Genes]

Howard Zinn approves

[RBS]

Old People get sick, next on your mid-day news.

[Hyperion]

Now that the Hillary Clinton campaign can't actually hide information about Clinton's health, they're going to release additional medical records this week

Lololololol, yeah right.

[DJF]

"""they're going to release additional medical records this week"""

Her doctors report on her birth and her first grade physical examination.

[Libertarian]

Say, didn't she go to Yale?

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/01.....wanted=all

[Homple]

Ya, I tink she should go yale.

[Get To Da Chippah]

Mrs. Clinton has been found to be very [REDACTED]healthy. It is highly {REDACTED]likely that she will live for {REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED] years.

[Cyto]

This is a joke, but it is also a salient point. They said "more of her records". Which instantly makes one ask "so, which records are you withholding?" It sounds pretty much exactly like the email situation. She's gonna let you read everything except the bits that might be damaging to her election prospects.

[Emmerson Biggins]

Hey Reason Staff, you should tell your buddies over at the Daily Beast that Pepe the frog isn't a Nazi, and they look fucking stupid trying to insinuate as such. Unless of course they already know this and this is an intentional effort to "shape the narrative" (confuse the rubes) as they say.

seriously this is now the one authoritative source over the whole internet for why pepe is a nazi:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/a.....ymbol.html

kind of hilarious actually.

[Hyperion]

Pepe the frog

That's what they call Trump these days?

[The Fusionist]

Woody Woodpecker and Daffy Duck are communists. It's true.

[thrakkorzog]

At least Donald and Scrooge are willing to help out their family members, rather than just letting their nephews become wards of the state.

[Jerryskids]

It's cute that you think those three nubile young orphans hanging out with a duck that wears no pants are his nephews.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Life is like a hurricane.

[GILMORE?]

The only part of that i find funny is that the author's name is "Nuzzi"

Which i pronounced "Nutzy"

[John Titor]

"Journalist fails to understand Internet culture, news at 11."

[Heroic Mulatto]

Hey Reason Staff, you should tell your buddies over at the Daily Beast that Pepe the frog isn't a Nazi, and they look fucking stupid trying to insinuate as such.

The year 2016, everyone. We were supposed to have jetpacks, flying cars, and glittering Art Deco megalopolises.

Instead, this is what we chose to do.

[John Titor]

Actually, you're all supposed to be dead from a limited nuclear exchange. So you know, small blessings.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Fair enough.

[Emmerson Biggins]

I like your positive spin on things!

[Emmerson Biggins]

ahh fuck.

Update:

delete-the-fucking-whitespace or somebody make a tiny-url for me

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/

donald-trump-pepe-the-frog- and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/

[lap83]

they're going to release additional medical records this week.

showing the picture of perfect health, despite some family history of genetic disorders stemming from her middle eastern ancestry....dammit who left that in there?

[Heroic Mulatto]

You're saying she's lactose intolerant?

[Suthenboy]

"Pennsylvania Woman Injured After Being Struck by a Fish That Fell From the Sky."

18 inches long and 5 lbs, huh? Sounds like a fish story to me.

[Citizen X]

18 inches long and 5 pounds, ladies.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Take a picture of it before you flush, or no one will believe it.

[Brett L]

So it was actually 9 inchrs?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

I have an infant size penis...too.

[Hyperion]

It's a sign of the end times. That and Hillary's pneumonia.

[Robert]

Must've bounced off Florida Man 1st.

[tarran]

So, I checked my facederp feed.

A few people speculating about Clinton's health. Nobody stating an opinion is buying the pneumonia story. The proggies are absolutely quiet. Not a single talking point.

They know. They are not at the point where they are willing to admit the lies are lies, and if someone agrees with the lie, they will concur. But they are not willing to spread the lies for the moment.

They aren't at the point where they ditch their uniforms and run away from their positions in their underwear, but it's getting much closer.

[That's A Bingo!]

"Not a single talking point." -- Have they given up on the "This just shows how strong she is!" line?

[Playa Manhattan.]

Probably. It was too easy to ridicule.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Nothing to see here!

[tarran]

Great! Not only do I have to clean tea off my monitor, my boss is asking why the SQL code I'm supposed to be developing right now is so funny.

[Hyperion]

Select a.derp, b.derp
FROM derp a
left outer join derpity b
on a.derp = b.derp
order by a.derp

[Krabappel]

That SQL is so derpy it just returns links to gawker articles.

[Hyperion]

Damnit, I should have joined the special Salon table for some extra heapin helpin of derp.

[Ted S.]

my boss is asking why the SQL code I'm supposed to be developing right now is so funny

Blame Little Bobby Tables.

[Krabappel]

I haven't seen that one in a while!

We have an employee with the last name Null that I've had to do a double take on a few times to make sure it wasn't returning a null value.

[Hyperion]

So maybe giving little Bobby db_ddladmin access to your database wasn't that brilliant of an idea?

[Get To Da Chippah]

No, see, if it were a man we'd all be proud of how tough he is, soldiering on through his illness for the sake of the country. But because it's a woman and she tries to campaign with pneumonia and we make a big deal of it we're sexist misogynistic shitlords!

/derp

[tarran]

They haven't yet trotted it out.

The usual suspects are posting pictures of kids on first day of school and utterly avoiding the political shit.

The people discussing it all agree that the story is bullshit.

[Hyperion]

Are they going to be able to keep up these lies until the bitch just keels over dead on national TV? The dumbfucks are actually going to kill her. Not that I have any empathy for her, I don't. But there's no way she can do it. She can't even appear in public for a few minutes every now and then without coughing up a lung or having a seizure or falling down. How the fuck is she going to be cast into the spotlight 24/7? It will definitely kill her or render her a vegetable.

[PurityDiluting]

What's the over/under on first fainting spell during the 90-minute debate?
Or will they find a reason to have the candidates seated instead of standing?

[Hyperion]

I'm not sure what Trump would do, but I think the guy will go for blood. I can just imagine she has to leave the stage for a coughing fit, or worse has one of her epileptic spells. I can just hear Trump 'What happened to Grandma? She can't even stay on the stage! She's got no energy, she's got nothing!' Of course then the media will make him out to be a big meanie. So maybe he just stays cool. But there's no way she gets through the debates without something happening. Maybe they'll try to drug her up to the max extent possible and prop her up with 2 SS guys on each side to steady her a little. It's going to be interesting.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

I knew this campaign season was gonna be one for the history books, but it still surprises (and delights) me that both parties openly talk about finding a replacement candidate. Scrumptious.

[Hyperion]

Hillary is going to go into the Whitehouse being both the most unpopular president in history on day one and also being on her deathbed. It's derptastical.

[John Titor]

Oh, she's working on a solution to the whole 'deathbed' problem.

[waffles]

Skulls for the skull throne!!! Now it makes sense!

[This Machine]

I knew this campaign season was gonna be one for the history books, but it still surprises (and delights) me that both parties openly talk about finding a replacement candidate. Scrumptious.

Right? Man, do we live in an exciting universe.

[Citizen X]

For real. I had been hating every moment of this goddamn election since it started over a year ago, but now it's starting to get almost good.

[robc]

Even many libertarians would like to make a change.

And wasnt there talk at one time than Stein would step down for Sanders?

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

She offered her place at the top of the ticket to him.

[kbolino]

Stein said she would, Sanders declined to take the offer IIRC.

[kbolino]

Of course, I don't think Stein is disliked by the Greens. In fact, she seems to be their purest candidate yet. Rather, I think she would give the nod to Sanders because of his name recognition.

[PBR Streetgang]

Same experience. Not one liberal/progressive/Dem friend of mine has said a peep about Hillary's health in the last 24 hours. Total. Silence.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I had one friend say that it wasn't nice take pleasure in someone falling ill.

Which I didn't. I took pleasure in her getting caught lying again.

[Tonio]

The proggies are absolutely quiet.

Just like in the old jungle movies..."The natives are quiet tonight; too quiet."

[C. Anacreon]

"Oh no, bass solo!"

[Red Rocks Okey-Dokein]

A few people speculating about Clinton's health. Nobody stating an opinion is buying the pneumonia story. The proggies are absolutely quiet. Not a single talking point

There's an article over on usuncut.com that has a bunch of boomer catladies and eunuchs in the comments saying that she just overheated and it was actually super-hot outside, and no, it doesn't matter that Trump was doing just fine in the same venue, you bigot!

[PurityDiluting]

I'll buy the whole campaigning is exhausting story and that old people get sick sometimes but soldier on anyway because of girl power or whatever, but those other un-doctored videos need to be doctored. wtf is that?

[Cyto]

Huffpo is all over the cover story. Lapping it up like good little puppies.... all the while deriding those crazy, nutter alt-right conspiracy theorists who want to make something of such a hero as Hillary driving herself to exhaustion while she's got pneumonia.

[db]

You know when they're afraid of parroting a talking point because they think they might be embarrassingly proved wrong any moment thatbreality may be starting to set in.

[Suthenboy]

They have been pavloved into it. How many times can they be made fools of defending something that turns out to be a lie? So far Cankles has a 100% record. They were bound to get gun-shy sooner or later.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

This new slogan is certainly not nice, but neither is Clinton, so fuck it:

"I'm With Hearse"

[Crusty Juggler]

Smite me, oh mighty Smiter!

[Injun, as in from India]

I laughed so hard I'm Hoarse.

[Krabappel]

...

[This Machine]

*falls out of chair, limps up to lead crowd in thunderous, roof-shaking, CCCP-style applause*

[RBS]

If she dies, she dies.

[bacon-magic]

You win. Please go to the local cemetery to pick up your urnings.

[Injun, as in from India]

Lots of fun definitions to vote on:

Urban Dictionary definition of Hillarhea

[db]

Weird. I live in PA and was standing outside yesterday and got hit with something that fell from the sky. I couldn't find it, but I have been hit with bullets that ricocheted straight up before, and it felt like that. Hit me really hard on the shoulder but I never fount what it was and it didn't leave a mark.

[Citizen X]

That was the backpack that had the fish's parachute in it.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Owning a parachute is a sign that you're contemplating suicide.

[Agammamon]

+1 D.B. Cooper's goldfish.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Jimmy James was D.B. Cooper.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

So Riven was trying to parachute to her wedding?

[Riven]

What can I say? Pimpin' ain't easy, you know?

[Heroic Mulatto]

I like your latest song, by the way.

[Riven]

No one appreciates my genius like you do, HM.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Genius, depravity.

Who's counting?

[Riven]

SugarFree, maybe! He's the gold standard for both.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Those who foolishly draw the attention of the Elder Gods....

[Suthenboy]

Probably was a bullet. Same thing has happened to me but I did find it. It was a 00 buckshot pellet. It felt like a bowling ball. It is amazing how much energy a small piece of lead has at even low velocities.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Today in my Facederp feed, an upper-middle class progressive friend is proud to be claiming victory in a very long fight to keep a Walmart out of his neighborhood because Walmart sucks/it will kill the character of the community/there's a Target like half a mile away. There's an empty field right now where it would be built.

I gave up about 6 months ago on asking him that about the poor people in the surrounding areas who could find work there (you could guess what that answer was) and/or what effect it has on people in the area who could save money there (never really answered).

[Injun, as in from India]

Tell your friend he was likely a useful idiot for SuperValu and Safeway.

I'll bet his reaction would be entertaining.

[Hyperion]

So slightly more expensive Chinese junk > Walmart Chinese junk? WTF?

[Injun, as in from India]

A prog friend of mine was railing against Amazon a while ago.

"2 minutes' hate" isn't fun if you don't have a little bit of variance.

[Auric Demonocles]

The area near my parents has been trying to get a Walmart since Ames closed in like 2002. Thanks to some people fighting it, those people have had to travel up to 70 miles to get to the nearest department store.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

"You should have to have a minimum income (~65k/year) to be able to live in this town, dammit! We don't need cheaper prices and more affordable goods attracting the riff-raff!

Now, where did I put that 'Strike for $15' sign? That's how you support the proles!"

[Hyperion]

It's like that where I live. There's no way there will ever be a Walmart or fast food place here. I have to drive 15 miles to the nearest Walmart super center. At least it's not 70.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Well, apparently, you just needed society's help in how to spend your money, and caring for yourself. You shouldn't be doing business with those places, anyway.

/your betters

[Bubba Jones]

I live in a rich burb with THREE walmarts, two targets, a Sam's and a Costco. Why wouldn't you want these things?

[Hyperion]

Because you're an aging hipster douchebag.

[Sevo]

Prediction: New ag machines in the offing:

"Gov. Brown signs overtime-pay bill for farmworkers"
[...]
"Opponents of the bill said the added cost would hurt farmers and lead to decreased hours for workers."
http://www.sfgate.com/politics.....218015.php

Why does moonbeam hate the farm workers?

[Hyperion]

Breaking: Moombeam hates poor migrant workers.

[C. Anacreon]

No, those ridiculously wealthy family farmers will just have to contribute their fair share at last.

[TheZeitgeist]

"Farmworker" and "farm" I am sure are defined enough so the Westside's Leaf Blower & Mower Battalion are not "farmworkers" nor are the several-acres-and-up properties on the coast and in the hills '"farms."

[Sevo]

I'll bet Pelosi never has to pay her (non-union) workers OT on her winery...

[Hyperion]

It's only because if they work overtime, they'll never become poets or artists. She gives them a peck of free grapes with their 1.50 an hour. Not the good grapes you know, but the ones that they pick up off the ground.

[TheZeitgeist]

Not the good grapes you know, but the ones that they pick up off the ground.

If I recall, Cato the Elder dispensed very similar advice on compensating 'employees' on the ol' rustica.

[rts]

University student fights for right to 'party'

In a decision sure to confound campus authorities, a judicial justice has sided with a beer-toting University of Victoria student who argued that police had no right to search his backpack for alcohol

The 18-year-old ? known as E.S. ? was ticketed last September for being a minor in unlawful possession of liquor. He represented himself in provincial court, cross-examining the officer who charged him.

The officer testified that he searched the youth at about 10 p.m. on campus grounds because he had a backpack with a "boxy" outline, "consistent with the shape that would be made by a beer case."

But Judicial Justice Hunter Gordon said that didn't amount to reasonable and probable grounds for a search.

Good on ya, E.S.

[The Fusionist]

He needed the beer to relax, after his mom threw away his best porno mag.

[The Fusionist]

The judge also threw out charges that the students missed two classes, because the teacher is a jerk.

[Injun, as in from India]

Canada needs this:

A well-entertained student body, being necessary to the college experience, the right of students to drink and party shall not be infringed.

[Injun, as in from India]

Canada needs this:

A well-entertained student body, being necessary to the college experience, the right of students to drink and party shall not be infringed.

[Anomalous]

You can say that again.

[thrakkorzog]

The citation for carrying a whiffle ball bat was upheld though.

[Juvenile Bluster]

NYPD proudly announce theft of $18k from man possessing knife

[Chipwooder]

If you look closely enough at the picture, they also publicly released all his personal data.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

It's heartening to see so many people call them on their prideful bullshit.

[Unreconstructed (Sans Flag)]

Pleasantly surprising to read the responses.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Ummmmm.....

Is that pink thing what I think it is????

[Wasteland Wanderer]

A flashlight?

[Bill Dalasio]

Occidental Students United Against Gentrification posted an identical message on Facebook.

"We have no tolerance for stolen land, colonizers, oppression, genocides, xenophobia, and/or erasure of culture/people (aka US nationalism)," the group said on Facebook.

Fine. Then for once in your miserable, pathetic excuse for a life, show a little integrity and drop out of your little inheritance of Western supremacy and spend the rest of your worthless life tilling a field or engaged in hunting and gathering until you starve of your own impotence.

[The Fusionist]

Will they be free to gambol?

[Anomalous]

They won't have the time or energy to gambol.

[Suell]

You can't handle the gamboling!

[Chipwooder]

Stolen land? Genocide? They really don't like the Comanche, huh?

[Sevo]

Was it you who suggested the book? It is wonderful!

[Chipwooder]

It was indeed, glad you enjoyed it too

[Injun, as in from India]

Occidental College students complain about western supremacy?

Rename your college to Oriental College maybe, to prove your point?

[Juice]

lol

[Zeb]

Then you'd better also start protesting the Japanese, the Chinese, various Indian (as in from India) cultures, Incas, Aztecs, Russians and pretty much every other major civilization ever.

And of course, how the shit is Islam not at the top of every list of the worst and most prolific imperial, culture destroying, colonialist civilizations?

[Free Society]

I'm sure they do protest the Russians. They're uncomfortably white and of largely European descent. That's the enemy.

[Heroic Mulatto]

They're uncomfortably white and of largely European descent.

They are pale, indeed. But they need to come to grips with the fact that they are just half-Tartars who've learned to shave.

[Sevo]

That Russian eagle faces both directions...

[Heroic Mulatto]

-1 beauty pageant.

[AlmightyJB]

I'm hungry for some Tatar

[The Fusionist]

Nice. The judges would also have accepted, "take a look at those Tatars!"

[Zeb]

Yeah, I bet they do. I just wanted to flesh out the list a bet. I guess they mostly count as "Western".

[Rufus The Monocled]

You asked the $64 question. More people were killed with Islamic slavery - something like 150 million - than the American version which was, really, just a piss in the bucket of world history. Not only that, Muslims didn't even use middlemen, they just went into homes and stole kids and people outright to sell into slavery.

The ignorance of these ignoramuses is not acceptable.

[Free Society]

Well the advantage of the Islamic world's slave trade, they hid the bodies so to speak. They took far more slaves for far longer than the Europeans did, but the Muslims killed the slaves when they could no longer work and in the case of African derived slaves, they castrated the males and culled the offspring of the females so there is no surviving population of the descendants of those slaves alive today. I'm sure the race baiters and bleeding heart academics would be just so outraged at Islamic civilization's past transgressions if it were easier for them to notice that it happened.

[Zeb]

It's amazing.

I'm not so bellicose or pessimistic as some here when it comes to Muslims. But it's just dumb to pretend that Islam is very high up among the most murderous and imperialistic movements the world has ever seen.

[Free Society]

Seriously? Islam has spread to and dominated how many countries by the sword? Like what, 58 out of 60? Not including the ones that were won back from it's oppressive maw. Murder and imperial conquest are divinely ordained concepts in Islam.

[Zeb]

But it's just dumb to pretend that Islam is NOT very high up among the most murderous and imperialistic movements the world has ever seen.

I left out a "not". I meant to say that it is among the most worst. Woops.

[Limpee Wiltstock]

Yeahr and study the fucking history of North Africa and of India. Bloody hell is what it was.

[Cyto]

The whole argument against gentrification has never made a lick of sense to me. What is the concept here? People who live in crappy neighborhoods should never have any hope of redemption? Class should bind us all, and should also be permanently bound to the soil?

It just sounds insane. "I don't want any nice homes in my neighborhood!" "Stop decent stores and restaurants from opening here! We like crappy prices and crappy service!"

[Hyperion]

Well, you never know, I mean dirty Asian businesses could come in.

[Rhywun]

It's just code for "moar white people".

[Bill Dalasio]

And you'll inevitably find the same assholes railing against "whitebread suburbia". You see, it's cool when they move into the neighborhood. Because they're down with the struggle. It's when those other people come it that it's a problem.

[Robert]

There's a serious reason: quarters become too expensive for existing residential & biz renters as the rent is bid up.

[Rhywun]

Cue "rent control"; or, the young subsidizing the old and generally wealthier.

[waffles]

Shackford! Your links are so dreamy...*drools*

[C. Anacreon]

Just in my email inbox, from MedScape:

Latest Updates for September 12, 2016

New Developments in Parkinson's Disease Psychosis

Coincidence? I think not!

[PapayaSF]

Topical!

[Stormy Dragon]

?"Pennsylvania Woman Injured After Being Struck by a Fish That Fell From the Sky."

Holy Mackerel!

[Sevo]

http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot

[AlmightyJB]

Carpnado

[AlmightyJB]

And why isn't the government doing anything about this

[JayU]

Was the mysterious object that fell out of Clinton's pants covered already? I don't really feel like reading through 400 comments to find out. But this is getting to the point where it no longer seems real anymore.

[Crusty Juggler]

If you had bothered to read the comments you would know that one of our more eagle-eyed commentors recognized that that the "mysterious object" was in fact a wireless vibrator. I guess Hillary needed a little extra stimulation to get through the memorial service, which most likely contributed to her dehydration.

[MetalBard]

Eewww! You're a very bad man

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I thought it was an Epipen... but for parkinsons.

[Hyperion]

She also lost her shoe. I'm not sure what the significance of that is, I guess it's a common symptom of pneumonia.

[MetalBard]

We are living in an alternative universe where Alex Jones is always correct.

[Hyperion]

They've determined that the depends gotta be taped up a little better. Some heavy duty duct tape maybe.

[PapayaSF]

My guess is some part of a catheter.

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer also recently had pneumonia.

Did they also have to drag his limp, lumpen sacs of fatness drooping from his skeleton and haul it into a van during a public event?

[db]

That is the definition of pneumonia, so clearly, yes.

[MetalBard]

I love the new name by the way.

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

Why thank you. Unfortunately, my thing is to change it every couple of weeks, so it's not gonna last. For those unaware, I'm always (whatever the new name is), Jr., so that's the tip-off.

The best part: the next couple of months are all but certain to inspire a way better screen name.

[Ted S.]

What was the old name?

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

There have been too many to count, and I don't post very much. The most recent: Wasted Vote, Jr., then Guy Behind the Guy, Jr., then it gets fuzzy. I've also used:

F. Stupidity, Jr. (and several variations thereof including Comrade F., F. Iron-Ass, and Mx. F.)
Stand by Ion Control, Jr.
F. Woman Logistics, Jr.

Why F.? It's an inherently funny letter IMO.

[TheZeitgeist]

Dude, she lost her balance for only like a second. Listening to all you zealots you'd think Hillary had a seizure or stroke or something.

[MetalBard]

It's not a seizure. Hillary made a deal with the devil, and now he's cashing in.

[Hyperion]

The ants. They got in her pants. Now they trying like hell to get out, you know, because the old lady in depends smell.

[Cyto]

I watched her barely able to stand, being propped up by a staffer.... then collapsing completely when attempting to walk. She had to be carried with feet dangling limply below her for the last few feet. She was completely out for at least a few seconds.

[Hyperion]

Shut up you knuckle dragging tea fucker, we'll tell you what you saw. That was pneumonia! Experts say so! Are you an expert? Well?

[Hyperion]

Yes, and he was having seizure like spasms too, because everyone with pneumonia does that. The science is settled, shut up you deniers! Hillary is healthy and good looking!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

CNN, true to form, reports that TRUMP says "something going on" with Hillary's health.

Mcguffin Journalism at its best.

[Free Society]

Trump SAID that? Well then, everything I hear about Hilary's health from here on out is a fake scandal. /Dem voter

[MetalBard]

Trump hates sick people!!!

[Suthenboy]

Yes, he said it. A month ago. He was ridiculed for it. Now that he proves to be correct they will try to make him seem like a ghoul.

Lying shills are gonna lie and shill.

[The Fusionist]

"something going on"

You know you've changed and your words they lie
That's something you can't deny

[AlmightyJB]

That's some dancing right there.

[C. Anacreon]

Wow, what a magnetic performance in that video. The choreography! The athleticism!

Seriously, an overly-made up middle-aged woman listing from side to side lip-syncing a terrible song?
It's only Monday, please be kind.

[The Fusionist]

I actually didn't watch the video, I was just trying to infect people with an earworm.

[The Fusionist]

Maybe you'll like this video better.

[The Fusionist]

Is Damon Root reading these comments?

If so - check out this and this, about an excellent Catholic libertarian judge not named Napolitano.

[Crusty Juggler]

Is Damon Root reading these comments?

No.

[The Fusionist]

Other than a desire not to be precipitated into realms of non-Euclidian madness, why the heck not?

[Crusty Juggler]

You could email him the links. I email Reason writer links sometimes. I don't receive hat tips if they write about them, but hey, I'm not complaining.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

That was the old way of doing things. But then commenters cheapened the process by sticking them directly in the comments, and those of us that went through the staid pageantry of respectfully notifying the writer whose baileywick the story fell under got left behind. Like a Hillary panic button falling out of her pants.

[The Fusionist]

Eh, it was a long shot.

The progs smeared Butler very effectively. There's not much of a constituency today to rehabilitate him. The Church is full of progs, and libertarians aren't big fans of the Sky Daddy crowd. Favorite-son sentiment from Minnesotans can only take him so far.

[The Fusionist]

Eh, it was a long shot.

The progs smeared Butler very effectively. There's not much of a constituency today to rehabilitate him. The Church is full of progs, and libertarians aren't big fans of the Sky Daddy crowd. Favorite-son sentiment from Minnesotans can only take him so far.

[The Fusionist]

Also, some of his actions have a 100% American flag-waving factor which is kind of a turn-off for some.

[The Fusionist]

(The term "libertarian" is borrowed from one of the articles, though I would not use the term myself. The author was determined to clear Butler from the accusation of being a conservative.)

[LoneWaco]

Schumer Also Has Pneumonia

Someone hates these cans!

[AlmightyJB]

Nothing ever happened to the cop that I'm aware of.

http://nbc4i.com/2016/09/12/ci.....ed-at-dog/

http://nbc4i.com/2015/06/30/pa.....surgeries/

[The Fusionist]

"It is too early in the investigation to respond to all of the statements made to local media regarding the incident, but not all of them are correct....The Division will take the steps necessary to appropriately address what happened, make any necessary changes to training or policy and take any corrective actions that are warranted to lessen the chance that a tragedy like this ever happens again."

In other words, it's too early in the investigation to tell the public *exactly* what happened, except we *know* it's not as bad as the poor cop's critics are saying, and we're inclined to the view that the cop shot the girl because of defects in our training and policy, so if you look at it that way, it really wasn't his fault.

[The Fusionist]

Of course, you might think that if the shooting was the fault of training and policy, the people who created the training and policy would see some consequences, but seriously, nobody is *that* naive.

[AlmightyJB]

It amazes me that cops are always in mortal from dogs that no one else seems to be scared of. And then the cop is so retarded he shoots a little girl in the leg? That dude is a menace.

[Gray Ghost]

Not surprised. The cop who tried to shoot a rattlesnake out of a tree with a .357, and ended up killing some neighbor's kid a few hundred yards down range, managed to skate through his manslaughter conviction and, given his conviction was expunged, probably back being a LEO.

I really hate BLM for making a racial issue out of the fact that the cops really have no problem shooting anyone. And few lasting consequences when they do.

[AlmightyJB]

Am I reading this story right?

"But it wasn't until they saw the server, who the restaurant says is African-American, had posted a screen-shot of their receipts with the words "another four reasons why I hate black people."

http://nbc4i.com/2016/09/11/an.....ial-media/

[The Fusionist]

A black server publicly insults black guests and publishes their information?

[The Fusionist]

Oh, and hates black people.

And now will be bitching about how they can't get a job.

[AlmightyJB]

She evidently has more than 4 reasons why she hates black people. Guess she'll have to find a new line of work where she'll fit in better. I'm sure the local cops are always hiring.

[Juice]

I waited tables. The stereotype was true then. It's probably still true now. If you waited on black people chances were that you were going to get a very low tip or no tip.

[The Fusionist]

I actually can't think of a tasteful joke to respond with.

[MetalBard]

Why should paint your canoe black? Cause blacks don't tip.

There was that hard? Oh wait you said tasteful..

[Cyto]

How about a true story.

As a teen, I worked at an all you can eat seafood restaurant. We had a group of a half-dozen large black women who came in every now and again. Large, as in north of 250 large.

And they'd put a hurting on the food. I'd say each of them downed at least 5 striped bass and a pound of fried shrimp every time. Plus associated sides.

We brought the food on chinet plates to the bench-style booths. When they finished up it looked like Armageddon.

I had their table the first time they came in. After each polished off enough food to feed a family of five, they asked for the desert menu. Well, we didn't serve desert. They were pretty pissed. They got plenty loud, despite my polite apologies. But that's not why I remember them.

No, the thing that sticks out in my mind.... the one thing that kept us talking about them for years, was the fact that they insisted on getting sweet and low to go with their tea. They were very loud about that as well, as they used up the entire batch I brought them when they ordered.

They easily consumed 5,000 calories each, and were plenty pissed they didn't get desert.... but they just had to have that sweet and low. Can't be too careful with those extra calories!

Oh... and they never left a tip. Not even a penny, despite being more work than any 5 normal tables.

So there ya go. Sometimes stereotypes exist for a reason.

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

As a teen, I worked at an all you can eat seafood restaurant. We had a group of a half-dozen large black women who came in every now and again. Large, as in north of 250 large.

HAWT

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

HAWT

Yeah, I would imagine that, when in close proximity to each other, they tend to raise ambient temperature just a bit.

[Red Rocks Okey-Dokein]

When I waited tables, we had two sets of regulars that came in every Sunday for about three months. One a group of about 10-12 black churchgoers, other 8-10 Mormons.

Shittiest tippers ever. Would spend north of $100 and leave about $5, at most, every time. I'd cringe every time they came in. Thankfully, because of my Hispanic-inherited brown skin, the black family didn't hassle me much, but I knew it was racial because when they had a white server they'd run them ragged for over an hour for about $1 in tips. The Mormons were at least nice to everyone but the shitty tipping still stung.

[Unreconstructed (Sans Flag)]

Back in my table-waiting days, after getting a particularly awful tip from a (mixed, but mostly black) group of young people, my (black) co-worker walked up to me, put his arm around my shoulder, and said "I hate waiting on black people too". Stereotypes often have some basis in fact.

[JayU]

Cornell did a study on it. Found it to be true. Not sure it qualifies as a stereotype, because that's like saying it's the theory of gravity.

[Suthenboy]

"It's just very upsetting, I've never come into direct contact with statements like that or racism directly..."

Wait, wait, wait. A black girl who is a minority in a country populated primarily by racist white people who have institutional racism out the wazoo and is old enough to be in college has NEVER COME INTO CONTACT WITH RACISM DIRECTLY?

I think someone didn't get the narrative memos.

[GILMORE?]

it's just like, even still, I'm just like,

[AlmightyJB]

And the first time it happens it's by another black person.

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=8cc_1352405973

[Juice]

A lot of it is imagined, like a retail clerk asking "can I help you find something?" is racist. They're really not trying to help you. They're just letting you know they're watching you so you don't steal anything.

[Zeb]

And it came from another black person, apparently.

[MetalBard]

So there is one form of white privilege that exists. I'm allowed to vote for whatever political party I want, but blacks aren't allowed to. They can only vote Democrat otherwise their blackness comes into question. The effectively live in a one party state. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWZZ07jMOc

[BigT]

Can you imagine how sweet the salty Hillary tears would be if she had to bow out, or when she loses!!

Bids start at $1,000,000 per milligram

[AlmightyJB]

What a world. What a world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7GJcKuVGm8

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

"What a worrd! What a worrd!"

[AlmightyJB]

Nice:)

[Hyperion]

Do you think they'll have to upgrade her depends?

[Suthenboy]

I am hoping she won't bow out but lose by a big margin. If the campaign doesnt kill her being soundly rejected and missing out on 'her turn' would turn her into a vegetable. This would give me great satisfaction.

[MetalBard]

I would have preferred watching her lose in the primaries. To watch the dems reject her yet again would have been fun.

[AlmightyJB]

BDM

http://time.com/4487295/optica.....lack-dots/

[Juice]

spooky

[ant1sthenes]

The fact that I can't see them all bugs the shit out of me.

[The Fusionist]

Jewett Williams update

"[The VA system in] Togus [Maine] to celebrate 150 years Saturday

"Department of Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert McDonald and members of Maine's congressional delegation are expected to speak after Saturday's parade....

"Following the parade, live music and a barbecue will precede the dedication of the veterans tree and hospice memory garden. The re-enactment, called "Til the Last Shot's Fired," begins at 3 p.m. The re-enactment's Facebook page says the event will honor Jewett Williams, a Maine Civil War veteran who was institutionalized in Oregon until his death in 1922. Williams' cremains stayed in Oregon until Thomas Desjardin, former Maine education commissioner and a longtime Civil War historian, started the process to bring Williams back to Maine. His cremains returned to the state last month."

[Ken Shultz]

Scalp 'em, swamp 'um
We will take 'um big score
Read 'um, Weep 'um, Touchdown
We want heap more
Fight on, fight on, Till you have won
Sons of Washington

Rah! Rah! Rah!

Hail to the Redskins
Hail victory
Brave's on the warpath
Fight for old Dixie!

P.S. Deal with it.

[The Fusionist]

Some poor college student just read that and is now sitting the corner, in a fetal position, quivering, sobbing silently, too traumatized to even speak...

[The Fusionist]

Rah rah rah,
We won't let them take the ball from us
We'll defeat our opponents
Like we should have done with Christopher Columbus
Go Native Americans!

[Ken Shultz]

+1

[creech]

You sure the official line isn't "Fight for Old D.C.?"

[Ken Shultz]

Yeah, they changed it when I was a kid.

[Libertarian]

"Steady.............steady..............."

http://realclimatescience.com/.....09/386.jpg

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Mike Pence Declines to Call David Duke 'Deplorable'

Mike Pence declined to call former Klu Klux Klan leader David Duke "deplorable" in an interview on Monday, telling CNN's Wolf Blitzer that he's "not in the name-calling business."

The Republican vice-presidential nominee was criticizing Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for saying "half" of Donald Trump's supporters belonged in a "basket of deplorables" when Blitzer noted that the campaign has attracted some support from white nationalists, including Duke.

"I'm not really sure why the media keeps dropping David Duke's name," Pence said. "Donald Trump has denounced David Duke repeatedly, we don't want his support and we don't want the support of people who think like him."

"You would call him a 'deplorable'?" Blitzer asked.

"No, I'm not in the name-calling business, Wolf. You know me better than that," Pence said. "What Hillary Clinton did Friday night is shocking."

Clinton pounced on the remark, retweeting a video of the exchange and commenting: "If you won't say the KKK is deplorable, you have no business running the country."

Hillary is charmed to have such complete and utter morons as opponents. The correct answer to that question, governor, is "Yes.".

[BigT]

The correct answer is: "I don't know David Duke. But the ideas associated with him and the KKK are deplorable."

[The Fusionist]

"David Duke is utterly deplorable. And you know what else is deplorable? Carrying water for Hillary and trying to link millions of Trump supporters with David Duke. This is why people don't like the media."

[C. Anacreon]

Why O Why couldn't he have said exactly that?

Millions arounde the world would have cheered, Wolf Blitzer would have choke-coughed and gone into stunned silence, and Pence would have new admiration and prominence. There would have been absolutely no down side to saying it.

It's not like he didn't know the question was coming. Why do these politicians always answer in the most milquetoast way possible, that will get them even more ridicule than even just nodding off to sleep would have?

[Ted S.]

The correct answer is, "As deplorable as Robert Byrd was".

[The Fusionist]

Pence is like a cute little deer standing in the middle of the road, gazing into the headlights of an oncoming Mack truck.

[The Fusionist]

A truck whose driver's family was trampled to death by a bunch of deer.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I thought it's the "D-Word" now.

[Crusty Juggler]

Hard-hitting, Wolf.

[BigT]

Climate variations explained by planetary motions:

"planetary resonance drives cosmic rays & climate change"

http://tinyurl.com/z3usw2q

"A new paper by Dr. Nicola Scafetta et al published in Earth Science Reviews finds an astronomical origin of the ~2100-2500 year Hallstatt cycle found in "cosmogenic radioisotopes (14C and 10Be) and in paleoclimate records throughout the Holocene." The authors, "show strong evidences for an astronomical origin of this cycle. Namely, this oscillation is coherent to a repeating pattern in the periodic revolution of the planets around the Sun: the major stable resonance involving the four Jovian planets ? Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune ? which has a period of about p = 2318 years. Inspired by the Milankovi?'s theory of an astronomical origin of the glacial cycles, we test whether the Hallstatt cycle could derive from the rhythmic variation of the circularity of the solar system disk assuming that this dynamics could eventually modulate the solar wind and, consequently, the incoming cosmic ray flux..."

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

So Mars's global warming isn't human caused?

[AlmightyJB]

Does that mean we're in the Age of Aquarius?

[Rockabilly]

Even war mongers get sick.
Me, I'm sick of the war mongers.

[PurityDiluting]

I see what you did there. +1

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

OT, so George Clooney has gotten himself into what we armchair historians call a "foreign entanglement" and now he's suffering blowback as a direct result of his meddling.

A regime that he was instrumental in putting into power by repeatedly touting as "the good guys" has turned out to be one side of a very bad coin he's partially responsible for minting, and now Clooney is involved in an attempt to unravel this quagmire that has his fingerprints all over.

He's acting like this discovery that "hey, these guys are bad!" is the discovery of the Higgs-Boson particle.

A fucking actor-- who pretends to be other people on TV, has personally engaged in foreign policy chess and has about as much success as real politicians have had: Negative and unintended consequences with a trail of bodies for his trouble. And now, NOW he's spinning the whole thing as a "discovery" of what's driving the conflict. Which if you read between the fucking lines is the same fucking thing that drives every goddamned civil war between two power-hungry despots.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37338432

[Hyperion]

What's up with Wyatt Earp there? He looks like he's up to no good.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Truth is stranger than fiction: the hat was a gift from George W. Bush.

[Hyperion]

I don't know why, but for some reason that doesn't surprise me.

[GILMORE?]

It is a style with a respectable pedigree

[The Fusionist]

If the report is accurate, it reflects well on Clooney for, I presume, subsidizing it with money he could have spent on hookers, hot tubs and cocaine, like Mr. Rogers did (just kidding about Mr. Rogers).

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Well hello there, hooker. Wanna be my neighbor?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Seriously. Celebrity politics is not a joke.

These people have no training of any kind, aren't generally educated or informed, and tend to be of average intelligence.

SO WHY THE FUCK DO WE OPEN PARLIAMENTARY FLOORS TO THEM OR GIVE THEM PROMINENT SPACES IN PRESTIGIOUS PUBLICATIONS OR ANY OTHER PLATFORM?

It truly boggles the mind and upsets me to no end.

Jesus Christ, what's next? Jessica Alba decides to try her hand at being a diplomat for Spain?

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Star fuggers... 'Nough said.

[PapayaSF]

Even better, they're setting up a migrant camp near Clooney's place at Lake Como.

[Suthenboy]

I called it.

So they are going to concentrate all of the migrants in that camp? Figures. It looks just like I thought it would.

[GILMORE?]

"Sorry" Means Nothing

Most apologies are just self-exculpations/aggrandizement that don't actually 'ask' anyone for forgiveness; they just assume it, pretend to moral accomplishment.

They generally show a person still far more interested in themselves than the assumed "offended" - who still get little/no additional say in the matter.

to wit = FARC says, "Maybe In Retrospect, Those Thousands of Kidnappings Weren't the Best Idea"

the other one that come to mind was Bill Clinton's 1998 Africa-Apology-Tour - apologizing for slavery and the genocide in Rwanda' - both things that Bill Clinton had very little to actually do with.

It mainly served as a helpful launchpad from which to flag all domestic political opponents as racists.

I recall at the time wondering why no one in the media ever bothered to note that he could have also used the opportunity to apologize for things HE HAD been directly responsible for - e.g. his own administration's policy in Africa, which helped inadvertently provoke a war that caused the deaths of millions

It was around that time i realized the degree to which media helps sell lies

[Heroic Mulatto]

4 links? What devilry is this?

[GILMORE?]

"who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science!?!"

Its the https thing. They all count as "1".

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Since when?

[GILMORE?]

Since reason.com went to https-prefix itself?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

So it's Preet Brahara's fault.

[Pan Zagloba]

He's practically staff, what with his "Fashion Advisor to Mr Welch" thing...

[straffinrun]

I'm truly sorry that Gilmore feels this way.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I'm guessing in the case of the FARC, they found that it was counterproductive and made it hard for even the Sean Penns of the world to be sympathetic to their cause of social justice.

[GILMORE?]

re: that point about "Clinton in Africa".... things like this are worth reading to get a grasp on just how godawful Susan Rice's tenure was.

Its notable - anyone in any other kind of career would be considered toxic, a complete disaster, forever tainted by epic-scale-incomptence that led to the deaths of millions....

but! Because it was *africa*? and no one either pays attention/or gives a shit? (*and everyone knows, with Democrats its all about *intentions*, not results).... It was simply swept under the rug, and chalked up to 'Diplomatic experience'.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

So the war went on, sweeping an estimated 100,000 Africans to their deaths. Every leader whom Susan Rice had embraced would soon reveal himself to be just another vainglorious African tyrant; all of them would build hideous histories of human rights abuses and yet . . .

When Meles Zenawi died Susan Rice rushed to his funeral and delivered a heartfelt eulogy, praising Meles as "uncommonly wise" and "a rare visionary" and a "true friend of me." She made no mention of the fact that the "uncommonly wise" Meles had burned entire villages in Ogaden and slaughtered the Anuak ethnic people of western Ethiopia. A 2011 State Department report would cite Meles and his gangster security apparatus for the "arrest of more than 100 opposition political figures, activists, journalists and bloggers" and also for the "torture, beating, abuse and mistreatment of detainees by security forces."

So she's the George Clooney of the State Department.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

In September of 1999, Susan Rice was extolling the "hands-on efforts" of Jesse Jackson for helping to realize the disastrous Lom? agreement. For months thereafter she praised the accords; she told the world that Jesse Jackson had "played a particularly valuable role."

?!

Why is Jesse Jackson involved with any foreign policy as it relates to any foreign nation? Jesus fuck this country has(d) lost its way.

[Ted S.]

What do you have against Hymietown Jackson?

[SIV]

When Jesse Jackson was right, America twice didn't listen.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Only a week after the Sunday talk show debacle the Washington Post's U.N. reporter, Colum Lynch, dutifully wrote a glowing profile of Susan Rice ? it was pure adoration. Mr. Lynch's article did not mention Susan's Benghazi spin doctoring until paragraph thirteen and that language was included by Post editors who found Lynch's hagiography too transparently partisan even for the Washington Post.

Huh.

[straffinrun]

Make A Wish Foundation endorse Hillary yet? Let's come together and hold a fake election, make the hospice into a classy replica of the Oval Office and have Bill hand out celebratory cigars! You did it girl! You did it!

[Rufus The Monocled]

After hours PM links?

[Wizard with a Woodchipper]

A sharpshooter killed a top ISIS executioner and three other jihadists with a single bullet from nearly a mile away ? just seconds before the fiend was set to burn 12 hostages alive with a flamethrower, according to a new report.

http://nypost.com/2016/09/11/s.....mile-away/

THE BEST PART: The British Special Air Service marksman turned one of the most hated terrorists in Syria into a fireball by using a Barett .50-caliber rifle to strike a fuel tank affixed to the jihadi's back, the UK's Daily Star reported Sunday. The pack exploded, killing the sadistic terrorist and three of his flunkies, who were supposed to film the execution, last month, the paper said.

[GILMORE?]

For some reason, I felt like I'd read that same story 6 months ago. And even then it sounded apocryphal and implausible.

For instance =

When did the UK ever start acknowledging the roles of SAS service members? And when did they ever acknowledge having any troops at all in Syria? And since when are NATO troops actually getting into direct shooting-fights w/ ISIS characters? I thought the entire pretense was that western forces were "advising" etc.

And seriously, don't @#(*$@$* ISIS film everything under the sun? They'll never do a flamethrower-execution without at least a half-dozen iPhone films of the event. You'd think if anything remotely like this actually happened, that even they would be like, "LOL OK GOOD ONE YOU GOT US THIS TIME BRO" and have that shit on youtube by now

[Gray Ghost]

When did the UK ever start acknowledging the roles of SAS service members?

There've been a few, recently. See, e.g., the "SAS men dressed as women" in Syria story from the beginning of this year. Or the recent, "two ISIS with one bullet" story. I guess it's UK media trying to salve the sting of ISIS's leading star being a jihadi from the UK.

My two cents, from the start, somebody's been on the ground, telling the bombers where and where not to bomb. Be they SAS, DevGru, CAG, SBS, GIGN, or some other acronym of the month, there needs to be something in the battlespace besides a drone at 20K AGL to figure out who needs killing.

[Robert]

You'd have to get extremely lucky to set fire to a fuel tank with a rifle shot. If the bullet penetrates the tank wall anything close to squarely, it'll just make holes in it. You'd have to get a grazing hit that would both create a friction spark & gouge enough of a slit to cause the fuel to leak out rapidly enough to get a fire going. It still wouldn't explode unless a lot of air had been admitted to the tank.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Jason Bourne did it.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Depends on the round. If the sniper was prepared for this particular scenario, some type of tracer/phosphorous incendiary round could be used. And that barrett .50 cal has a whole host of specialty rounds-- one for every occasion.

FWIW, I'm skeptical of this story because it's too cinematic.

[Robert]

Still not enough air in the tank.

[Gray Ghost]

Air-shmare. If a Raufoss .50 hits it, it's exploding whether there's air in the fuel tank or not.

[That's A Bingo!]

"fireball by using a Barett .50-caliber rifle to strike a fuel tank" -- Mythbusters tested that. Didn't work.

[GILMORE?]

e.g.

Aug 10th - SAS Sniper Saves Father and Child from Execution

A story about a "hero" SAS sniper who reportedly killed a member of an Islamic State (Isis) death squad as he moved to behead Syrian villagers is an "easy sell" to the British public, according to a military expert.

"Such stories don't require corroboration to have their desired effect on the readership of such publications," a spokesman for a UK military think tank told IBTimes UK on the condition of anonymity.

While he was not in a position to ascertain the accuracy of the report, which appeared in The Daily Star and Express attributed to an anonymous SAS source, the expert suggested its authenticity is almost irrelevant.

February 15th - ISIS Executioner Beheaded by SAS Sniper's "Special Bullet"

A SAS sniper has beheaded an ISIS executioner with a single shot while the militant was teaching jihadis how to decapitate prisoners, it has been reported. ... A witness said the entire group of student jihadis then fled, deserting their cause after the ill fated training session at a small village in northern Syria.

[GILMORE?]

December 15th - SAS sniper in Iraq kills five ISIS jihadis with just THREE bullets: Marksman detonated terrorist's suicide vest with precision shot

An SAS sniper was able to stop a group of jihadis launching a suicide bomb attack by killing the terrorists with just three bullets in a dramatic shoot-out in an ISIS-held part of Iraq.

The marksman, who joined the SAS a decade ago, potentially saved the lives of hundreds of innocent people by firing three well-aimed shots at the jihadists as they left a bomb factory near Mosul.

Are you starting to suspect there's a bit of a cookie-cutter pattern at work here?

fwiw, these 3 examples aren't even all the times i've heard the "SAS Sniper" trope being thrown out there. It makes you go, "How stupid do they think we are..."....

...and then you realize..., oh, right, yeah. We're that stupid.

[Stormy Dragon]

West Virginia police department fires officer for NOT shooting someone:

Weirton terminates officer who did not fire at man with gun

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Immediately, the training he had undergone as a Marine to look at "the whole person" in deciding if someone was a terrorist, as well as his situational police academy training, kicked in and he did not shoot.

"I saw then he had a gun, but it was not pointed at me," Mr. Mader recalled, noting the silver handgun was in the man's right hand, hanging at his side and pointed at the ground.

Monster.

[creech]

Every cop drama on tv always has the cops (e.g. the entire Regan family on Blue Bloods) holding their fire and talking down armed perps. Fire them all!

[The Hyperbole ((Very Tall))]

I noticed that you conveniently left out the part where he

"failed to eliminate a threat."

His non-action endangered the lives of others. What kinda cop hating thug lover are you.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I'm all about the Thug Life.

[Ted S.]

If it endangered lives, it was only the lives of cops. Spraying bullets and endangering the lives of humans and puppies is A-OK.

[sarcasmic]

Those people they endanger aren't the public. The public is everyone else. They can't serve the public if they are not safe. That means that they must treat everyone they come into contact with as a potential deadly threat, and act accordingly. So they can continue to server everyone else. They serve the people who do not interfere with them and who obey them without question. Everyone else must be dealt with as a threat.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

So, this department doesn't give out Life-Saving awards, I s'pose.

[GILMORE?]

On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.

[Bill Dalasio]

Dammit. Beat me two it by just a few minutes!

[Rufus The Monocled]

If she drinks water all the truth will piss out

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Isn't that a symptom of rabies? Is Joe going to have take Hillary out back and shoot her?

Alternatively a more mundane consequence is kidney stones or a UTI. Preferably that happens right as she's taking the stage on debate night.

[GILMORE?]

Isn't that a symptom of rabies?

I think the "internet commenter diagnosis" thing that's been so prevalent over the last 2 days is one of the funniest aspects of this whole thing.

Everyone's insisting how 'clear' it is (from brief *video clips*) what diseases she's suffering from. There seem to be factions clustering around "Parkinsons" on one hand, and "Epilepsy" on the other, and an assortment of lesser schools which maintain various other 'obvious' diagnoses.

I liked the suggestion yesterday of "Oldmonia"

[__Warren__]

That was by one of our most attractive and sexy commenters.

[Crusty Juggler]

Sure, I'm an internet commenter, but I'm an internet commenter who has watched every episode of House, therefore my diagnosis is sarcoidosis.

Take it to the bank and cash it in!

[C. Anacreon]

I'm don't play a TV doctor, but I am a physician in real life.

Not buying sarcoidosis, sorry. It's usually not a big deal, and they wouldn't have a reason to hide it.

I'll once again toss out progressive supranuclear palsy. Very rare, but it does seem to like celebrities, as it killed Dudley Moore.

[Crusty Juggler]

TV doctors > regular doctors.

Sarcoidosis was one of the common incorrect initial diagnosis' on that show. Sarcoidosis and lupus, therefore you are wrong, and she either has sarcoidosis or lupus.

[__Warren__]

Supernuclear pussy?

[Crusty Juggler]

I have bookmarked progressie supranuclear palsy, and I am going to claim it is my diagnosis because after quickly scanning over it's symptoms it does logical from what we know about her.

[PapayaSF]

*COUGH* I first suggested progressive supra nuclear palsy to C. Anacreon. Also note her blue sunglasses, which she wears even when nobody else is wearing sunglasses. Her awkward gait. The wide stance. Always wears flat shoes, even though some heels would give her height and make her legs look longer. That piece of metal that dropped out of her pants leg: part of a catheter part? A leg brace?

[thrakkorzog]

As long as everybody is guessing what Hillary's suffering from, I'm going to bet on the long odds candidate of Lupus.

[Cyto]

It's not lupus. It's never lupus.

/House

[C. Anacreon]

If Hillary had Lupus or Sarcoidosis she'd probably be on steroids, and her face would be as round as the moon as a result.

I don't usually look at her very closely, though. Would you say she has a "moon-shaped facies"?

[thrakkorzog]

Anacreon, it depends, are we still doing euphemisms around here?

[__Warren__]

It's Chagas.

[JayU]

I'll take Brain Eating Amoeba for $1,000, Alex.

[thrakkorzog]

Somewhere out there Marco Rubio is laughing his ass off. "See what happens when you don't drink enough water!"

[Rhywun]

They picked the right picture to demonstrate it. She looks like a desiccated mummy.

[Bill Dalasio]

The blood of virgins!. I need the blood of virgins!!

[__Warren__]

Jail guards ignore teen. She dies. They eat her breakfast.

[Rufus The Monocled]

At least heads rolled.

[0x90]

For some reason, I read that as: They eat her for breakfast.

[Rhywun]

Me too.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

No word on her milkshake?

[Crusty Juggler]

This guy took care of the milkshake.

[DenverJ]

"Both pleaded not guilty." Should that be "pled" or is it like the "hanged" vs "hung" thing?

[thrakkorzog]

It looks like "pleaded" is considered the grammatically correct form, but "pled" is in common enough usage that it is generally considered acceptable.

[__Warren__]

_\|Hillary|/_

[Ken Shultz]

"Now that the Hillary Clinton campaign can't actually hide information about Clinton's health, they're going to release additional medical records this week."

Does she have herpes.

I bet she has herpes.

She doesn't want anyone to know she has herpes.

There should be a joint committee to go over her medical records.

And an FBI investigation.

. . . into Hillary Clinton's herpes.

[Ken Shultz]

Bill's a fuckin' carrier is what he is.

He's givin' everybody herpes.

[__Warren__]

I'm with herpes.

[GILMORE?]

I second the motion = Hillary has Terminal Brain Herpes.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Wouldn't Bill have to touch Hillary for her to catch his herpes?

[DK]

I believe they rode the same tractor.

[Rhywun]

No, tractors cause gonorrhea.

[__Warren__]

Depends on who does the ploughing.

[AlmightyJB]

She's preggers

[__Warren__]

What kind of semen could survive in that acidic environment?

[Sevo]

Never gets old:
Woman with two kids is shopping.
Clerk walks up, says "May I help you? And what cute children you have! Are they twins?"
Woman, looks at kids and then at clerk "Are you crazy? The boy is four and the girl's eight!"
Clerk "Well, you're so ugly, I didn't think you could possibly get screwed twice."

[PapayaSF]

Zing!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Because this time...

Attorney General Bob Ferguson did the state a favor this week, announcing a plan to push a ban of semi-automatic, military-style weapons like the AR-15 rifle through the state Legislature.

NO matter how many times the gun lobby says it, more guns won't make Americans safer.

That's especially true of semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15. America has seen again and again the lethal cost of these weapons of destruction deployed in civil society, from Newtown, Conn., to Orlando, Fla., to San Bernadino, Calif., to Umpqua Community College to Mukilteo.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Holy shit, are those commenters devoid of anything resembling intelligence. The guy who says he's a stand-up is particularly stupid-every argument is about how people feel. I would imagine he'll starve to death soon, as he can't possibly be making a living*.

*I say that, but, then again, Paula Poundstone did it.

[Rhywun]

Jesus, how far does violent crime have to decline before nobody tries this argument with a straight face anymore?

[__Warren__]

They actually need crime. The more it decreases the harder it is to make a government centrally planned approach to crime control.

Get rid of the guns and crime goes up. People get nervous and call their representatives. More funding and power for government parasites.

So these lefty scumbags agree with us, they're just looking for a different result.

[thrakkorzog]

Looking at the FBI stats for Washington, a whopping 6 people were murdered by rifles in 2014. (The latest year with available stats listed.) OTOH, it seems like banning hands and feet would be almost twice as effective, since those were responsible for almost twice as many murders.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Huh, my little circle of texting buddies and I have been engaging in "healther" conspiracies. Someone made an excellent point: Hillary didn't go to a hospital after her recent episode.

That suggests that this condition is known and ongoing, whereas if your or I collapsed suddenly, we'd probably go to an emergency room to "make sure" everything was ok, have some tests run etc.

Now, if I take off my tinfoil, it's possible that because she's Hillary-fucking-Clinton, the hospital comes to her and she has all of those tests done in her living room by a mobile clinic. But it's still a highly interesting take.

[GILMORE?]

They completely made-up the idea that she'd been "Diagnosed on friday".

That was just a story they concocted which sounded better than "We just found out right now!!" and was less damning than, "She's been sick non-stop for months!" Whatever problems she has, they know all about them, but they sure as shit aren't what they *say* it is (*pneumonia, overheating, or whatever they say next week). Because the only think you can really rely on? is the fact that they'll lie to improve the story, because the reality is always far worse than you can possibly imagine.

[Sevo]

I dunno, G. I think she and the staff lie out of habit. Even if the truth were better, they'd lie. Gotta keep in practice!

[thrakkorzog]

It's all Republicans fault. Hillary and her aides wanted to be straightforward and honest last Friday about her pneumonia, but those pesky Healthers would have made a big deal out of nothing. So you see they couldn't just tell everybody the truth because of those mean old Republicans would have pounced all over it.

[Glide]

Boy, the word "POUNCE" is having a fantastic week with all the media efforts to divert from the actual health crisis to how mean the right is for noticing.

[PapayaSF]

Also note that her staff was totally unfazed, as if they've seen this many times before.

Speculation that her blue sunglasses have anti-seizure less.

[Brian]

I think we can all agree this is a national tragedy.

Hillary Clinton is trying so hard to win the presidency for you that she gave herself pneumonia. She almost collapsed.

This is truly our darkest hour.

I hope you will all join me in a national prayer for Hillary.

[Sevo]

"I think we can all agree this is a national tragedy."

Yep, she's still poking at it; that's a tragedy.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

No need! She's powering through it!

[__Warren__]

My wife gets mad if when I draw pentagons on the floor.

[american socialist]

I believe basically that 90% of people are good and decent-- though I don't think that translates over to this country's politics. That said, You have to wonder though about the human decency of these rabid right-wing assholes who seem to be foaming at the mouth in wishing that HRC would just fucking die already-- hopefully from some crippling and painful neurological disorder. Don't you just want to grab one of these fuckers by the throat and kick their ass?

[Rhywun]

"Juvenile bluster" - it's not just for left-wingers at DU wishing death on their enemies.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Harambe didn't die for this.

[american socialist]

Sorry, I think people who wish Parkinson's on someone because they don't agree poor people should have access to health care are total assholes. I thought GWB was a major war criminal, but I don't recall ever making an argument that I wish he'd get Lou Gehrig's disease. If I had gotten to that point I'd hope that I would have had the self-awareness to get myself a therapist and some anger management.

[Rhywun]

Yawn.

[Heroic Mulatto]

How many layers of irony are you on?

[JayU]

Lou Gehrig's Disease would've been fitting though, since his family owned a baseball team.

[Sevo]

american socialist|9.12.16 @ 10:46PM|#
"Sorry, I think people who wish Parkinson's on someone because they don't agree poor people should have access to health care are total assholes.
Me, too. But not nearly as slimy as those like you who summarily kill people for not agreeing with them.

"I thought GWB was a major war criminal, but I don't recall ever making an argument that I wish he'd get Lou Gehrig's disease."
Aren't you SPECIAL?! Right; you'd just have him sent to the camps if he gave you any lip.

"If I had gotten to that point I'd hope that I would have had the self-awareness to get myself a therapist and some anger management."
Yeah, asswipe, you should do that.

[DesigNate]

Maybe, just maybe, they wish that because you are she is a despicable human being with no redeeming qualities who is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands of people, because they happened to be born in a country that ends in "stan".

Oh, and poor people had access to health care before Obamacare and MEDICAL care is not a fucking right.

[Brian]

Sure, after I get done scraping the socialists off the bottom of my boots.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Virtue signaling: Your signal is weak (at best), and your virtue is non-existent.

Please, spare us your pearl-clutching. Or, better yet, go deal with the mote in your side's eyes. 'Cause, nothing says "rabid assholes" quite like the proggies during this current election cycle.

[GILMORE?]

american socialist|9.12.16 @ 10:15PM|#
"I believe basically that 90% of people are good and decent-

I believe the first thing out of your mouth is always a lie, and usually the most-transparent one at that.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Tarski knew how to deal with his ilk.

[John Titor]

This would come off as way less disingenuous from someone who hasn't openly said they want to put Muslims in gulags and pretends that Holodomor doesn't matter.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I forgot, is american socialist also the "Ching. Chang. Chong." guy?

[John Titor]

I've seen people say that he's racist to the Chinese, but I've never seen the apparent comments they're referencing.

[thrakkorzog]

I don't recall anything specifically against the Chinese, but he seems cool with breaking a couple million Chinese eggs in order to make an omelette.

[Sevo]

american socialist|9.12.16 @ 10:15PM|#
"I believe basically that 90% of people are good and decent-- though I don't think that translates over to this country's politics."

That's a lie; stated vs revealed preference.
No one who believed mopre than 50% of the general public would champion the use of deadly force to separate those people from their wealth.
You prove once again to be a slimy liar, probably every bit as nasty and evil as the Clintons
---------------------------------------
"That said, You have to wonder though about the human decency of these rabid right-wing assholes who seem to be foaming at the mouth in wishing that HRC would just fucking die already-- hopefully from some crippling and painful neurological disorder."

As opposed to the lefty slimebags who don't 'wish'; they send out the deaths-quads to round 'em up and kill them,
-------------------------------------
"Don't you just want to grab one of these fuckers by the throat and kick their ass?"

Yes, I do, lefty slimebag.

[PapayaSF]

But Sevo, don't you know that leftists are always polite in their opposition? They never wish pain or death on anyone!

[Sevo]

Yep, they starve or shoot the opposition in a friendly way.

[PapayaSF]

I'm thinking of them hoping for and celebrating the deaths of Reagan, Thatcher, Scalia, etc.

[__Warren__]

Is it possible Hillary is being poisoned by someone in her inner circle?

[creech]

Gee, whom in that entourage might be envious of Trump having a trophy wife???

[Sevo]

A member of the "VRWC(tm)"

[JayU]

According to that doctor who discovered that football is bad for your head, it's either Putin or Trump who's poisoning her.

[PapayaSF]

Bill's motives: Doesn't want her to upstage him. Other resentments. The White House spotlight would put a crimp in his babe-chasing. He wants Trump to win....

[ant1sthenes]

Is there someone close to her whose name sounds suspiciously murderer-y?

[PapayaSF]

Too bad Cytotoxic hasn't been around for a while. I think we all need to hear again how Hillary is absolutely certain to win in a landslide, and the GOP is doomed.

The DNC has totally fucked themselves. They agitated for early voting. They rigged the system to nominate Hillary and ticked off the Sandersistas. They hid all the bad news about her. Now it's all crashing down. Replace her with Kaine? Weak. Biden? Wow, way to rub salt in the wounds of the Bernie bros.

But it's too late, anyway. States have ballot laws. Many deadlines have passed. The DNC can't make 50 calls and ask that Hillary's name be replaced on millions of ballots. Not when many states are controlled by Republicans. They can't do 50 Torricelli/Lautenbergs.

Inevitably more about her health will come out, and then the question is: Who knew what, and when? Another cover-up to be explained. And what's in the next WikiLeaks dump? Wanna bet there's something health-related in there?

Even her MSM cheerleaders can't deny the dishonesty now. Her credibility is gone. Now the Democrats suffer until election day, and beyond. How the mighty have fallen. The Fall of the House of Clinton.

Trump has destroyed two political dynasties, and he hasn't even taken office yet. Libertarians should cheer that, at least.

[creech]

Aren't the voters, in fact, voting for electors unlike in, say, a situation where one is directly electing a senator?
A medically disabled Hillary's name could stay on the state ballot, she wins, and her electors at the direction of the DNC vote for Biden.

[DenverJ]

You know who else destroyed dynasties?

[__Warren__]

Joan Collins?

[Rhywun]

Joan Collins?

[Rhywun]

Dammit

[thrakkorzog]

Ted McGinley?

[Weekend at Hillary's, Jr.]

Cytotoxic|6.25.16 @ 11:41AM| block | mute | #

This kind of sophist mendacity is not going to work on me, or anyone with a brain.

There are people with brains, and then there is Cytotoxic. He said it himself.

[That's A Bingo!]

Oh please. The media will drag her to the White House if they have to.

[PapayaSF]

You may not have noticed, but the MSM has been losing its grip on news and public opinion for some time now.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

South Park returns Wednesday

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

NCAA removes championship venues from North Carolina

Based on the NCAA's commitment to fairness and inclusion, the Association will relocate all seven previously awarded championship events from North Carolina during the 2016-17 academic year. The NCAA Board of Governors made this decision because of the cumulative actions taken by the state concerning civil rights protections.

In its decision Monday, the Board of Governors emphasized that NCAA championships and events must promote an inclusive atmosphere for all college athletes, coaches, administrators and fans. Current North Carolina state laws make it challenging to guarantee that host communities can help deliver on that commitment if NCAA events remained in the state, the board said.

"Fairness is about more than the opportunity to participate in college sports, or even compete for championships," said Mark Emmert, NCAA president. "We believe in providing a safe and respectful environment at our events and are committed to providing the best experience possible for college athletes, fans and everyone taking part in our championships."

Yay, KulturKampf!

[The Fusionist]

They're literally taking their ball and going home.

[DesigNate]

Way to punish those college kids (and their respective towns) for things completely out of their control.

A+ for assholishness there, NCAA.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

The great irony is that the parts of NC that suffer the most from these boycotts are cities like Raleigh, the residents of which are mostly liberal and have always opposed the law.

[PapayaSF]

Good.

[jdgalt]

Forget Hillary's health, cover this hour-long blow-up!!! https://archive.is/oFhn8

Even lefties should not want this harpy's hands on the nuke button.

[PapayaSF]

I tried but failed to determine the origin of that "quote." It's very juicy but seems to appear only on blogs quoting each other. A bit suspect.

[The Fusionist]

A "Hitler like rage down." Maybe someone is envisioning her as Hitler in that Downfall clip.

[__Warren__]

How does Jeff Fisher still have a head coaching job?

[__Warren__]

@pattonoswalt Wait, so Hillary has PNEUMONIA and she's still campaigning as hard as she is? You realize how badass that is, right?

@Pi4noBl4ck @pattonoswalt If you knew how to recognize a gravely sick woman you wouldn't be a widower now.

[PapayaSF]

Ouch....

[C. Anacreon]

Meanwhile, HuffPo is lauding Oswalt as the greatest mind in history. Following that, there's 2600 comments fighting over which commenter is most impressed by Hillary's courage and strength.

Gag! Must remember...never read lefty comment sites...never read lefty comment sites....

[0x90]

If there's one phrase she should steer clear of...

[The Fusionist]

She's hoping this will cancel out her foundation's scandals.

[Libertarian]

The heck with the theoretical weight of a fish given a certain length. A bird lifting 5 pounds?? I don't think so.

[db]

Waterspout.

[Clich? Bandit]

African Swallow or European?

[PurityDiluting]

Flying Carp

[Playa Manhattan.]

Fish cannon.

[waffles]

It's the goddamned night terrors that get me. Waking up in a cold sweat after being riddled with bullets. Only to reach down and realize I'm in my jammies with my dog licking my toes.