Watch the First Part of the Libertarian Party Presidential Debate in Full!

Prepare for tonight's Part II by re-living John Stossel grilling Gary Johnson, John McAfee, and Austin Petersen last week

Matt Welch | 4.8.2016 3:18 PM

(Amanda Swafford on Twitter)

As Ed Krayewski wrote earlier today, Nick Gillespie wrote yesterday, and John Stossel himself wrote the day before that, three of the leading candidates to be the Libertarian Party's presidential standard-bearer in this year of two-party disaffection will be coming back for part two of their Stossel-moderated debate tonight on Fox Business Network at 9 p.m ET. Once again, Kennedy and I will provide post-debate commentary.

I will hopefully have some more pre-game thoughts later, but for now I wanted everyone to enjoy and argue over last week's first heave below:

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GILMORE? 10 years ago

when i hear "pre-game" and "heave", i think of college.
1. BiMonSciFiCon 10 years ago
  
  Pre-game warm ups and half-court heaves?
  1. GILMORE? 10 years ago
    
    pre?game
    ?pr????m/
    North American
    verb
    informal
    gerund or present participle: pre-gaming
    
    (especially of a person who is underage) drink alcohol before attending an event or social function.
    "a lot of the teenagers had pregamed before they got there"
    
    heave
    h?v/
    informal
    
    a case of retching or vomiting.
    "waiting for the heaves to subside"
2. SIV 10 years ago
  
  Grab its motherfucking leg
Derpetologist 10 years ago

For those who can't get enough:

Spot the Not: quotes about the US from its enemies

1. The Americans have the watches, but we have the time.

2. The Americans are good at making fancy cars and refrigerators, but that doesn't mean they are any good at making aircraft.

3. In appearance it is very powerful but in reality it is nothing to be afraid of; it is a paper tiger.

4. That paper tiger has nuclear teeth.

5. No matter how desperately the U.S. may roar, it is nothing but roar of a toothless wolf.The incarnation of all sorts of evil, the empire of devils, is bound to grow old and go to ruin.

6. The Americans are a little people, a silly people- greedy, barbarous, and cruel.

7. The Americans are stuck in Iraq and have no way out. They are like a wolf whose tail has been caught in a trap.

I won't be able to reveal the Not in a reasonable amount of time.
1. Rich 10 years ago
  
  Oh, an easy one, D. You won't have to reveal it to this crowd.
  
  Trust things are join well in your endeavor.
  1. Rich 10 years ago
    
    *going*
    
    *** gets coffee ***
2. GILMORE? 10 years ago
  
  ""The Americans have the watches, but we have the time.""
  
  Pretty sure the Wu Tang said this
  
  "" The Americans are good at making fancy cars and refrigerators, but that doesn't mean they are any good at making aircraft.""
  
  uh. We suck at making fancy cars. (props to germany). Refrigerators? The top 2 suppliers are both Korean.
  
  ""In appearance it is very powerful but in reality it is nothing to be afraid of; it is a paper tiger.""
  
  Mao?
  
  ""That paper tiger has nuclear teeth.""
  
  russians?
  
  """No matter how desperately the U.S. may roar, it is nothing but roar of a toothless wolf.The incarnation of all sorts of evil, the empire of devils, is bound to grow old and go to ruin.""
  
  I guess bin laden.
  
  ""The Americans are a little people, a silly people- greedy, barbarous, and cruel.""
  
  This is from Lawrence of Arabia.
  
  "" The Americans are stuck in Iraq and have no way out.""
  
  I'm pretty sure that was Elvis
  1. HeteroPatriarch 10 years ago
    
    I was thinking 6 was Monty Python at first, but that was a different quote.
3. HeteroPatriarch 10 years ago
  
  Isn't 6 from Lawrence of Arabia?
  1. jarflax 10 years ago
    
    yes it is
    1. jarflax 10 years ago
      
      but with moar arab
4. Free Society 10 years ago
  
  2
  1. GILMORE? 10 years ago
    
    in retrospect i will guess that it was something the Germans or Japanese said during WWII, suggesting that our industrial advantages would not necessarily translate to military capability
    1. HeteroPatriarch 10 years ago
      
      Goring, during the "Americans are soft flabby playboys" phase of the war.
      1. GILMORE? 10 years ago
        
        Sounds right
5. HeteroPatriarch 10 years ago
  
  I know 2, 6 and 7. 1 sounds stupid-but-idiots-would-think-it's-clever enough to be one of the North Korea chunks, I've heard the paper tiger thing before, but I thought it was a Japanese guy before Pearl Harbor so 4 wouldn't make sense. 5 I have no idea. If there's only one not, it's 6, but is there more than one?
Spencer 10 years ago

DFW watching party? No cable... and a wife who hates politics.
1. HeteroPatriarch 10 years ago
  
  Sorry, I don't do DFW.
  1. Chipper Morning Wood 10 years ago
    
    There is no DFW problem that can't be helped with a little DFP.
Citizen X 10 years ago

Honestly, i sort of stopped paying attention to the LP race once Morgan Freeman decided not to run.
1. RBS 10 years ago
  
  The same Morgan Freeman who narrated several Hilary ads?
  1. Citizen X 10 years ago
    
    That's the joke.
    1. RBS 10 years ago
      
      In my defense, we are talking about the LP.
Citizen X 10 years ago

Can't watch it at work - did Austin Petersen brag about all the hot chicks he knows who are totally thinking about voting for him? Did Gary Johnson say anything libertarian? Did John McAfee have to choke a bitch?
1. Rich 10 years ago
  
  IIRC, the takeaway is that McAfee is not a flaming lunatic.
  1. GILMORE? 10 years ago
    
    or, that he's a flaming lunatic who seems to keep his shit together better on stage than either of the other 2, who looked and acted like baked teenagers.
  2. DaveSs 10 years ago
    
    I think he knows how to gauge how much cuckoo his audience wants to hear.
    
    Heard him on a somewhat small-time podcast a few months back. He sounded rather like Alex Jones there.
  3. mad.casual 10 years ago
    
    He needs to shave. With his voice and the beard, I'm never gonna see and hear him and not think 'Orson Welles'.
2. Chipper Morning Wood 10 years ago
  
  A succinct summary, Citizen X. I wanna see McAfee choke Peterson while GayJay uses that as a seque about his experiences with thin oxygen on Mt.Everest.
__Warren__ 10 years ago

I'm pulling for Johnson!
1. Rich 10 years ago
  
  Are you a member of his staff?
  1. Citizen X 10 years ago
    
    I think he'll spurt ahead as the excitement of the race builds.
    1. Rich 10 years ago
      
      Indeed. He's already come into his own.
      1. __Warren__ 10 years ago
        
        It sure looks that way at first glans.
      2. Domestic Dissident 10 years ago
        
        Remain firm in your resolve.
      3. Citizen X 10 years ago
        
        You might think the Libertarian candidates are all the same, but really, there's a vas deferens.
        
        Rich 10 years ago
        
        *** prostrates before Citizen X whilst awaiting Swiss ***
    2. Hamster of Doom 10 years ago
      
      Wankers.
      1. Rich 10 years ago
        
        ?
        
        That was totes uncalled for!
        
        Hamster of Doom 10 years ago
        
        That was scrotes uncalled for!
        
        .... just keep still, I don't think anyone noticed...
    3. SoCal Deathmarch 10 years ago
      
      And both R's and D's will come all over.... to our side.
2. Chipper Morning Wood 10 years ago
  
  So you are hoping Johnson will have wrecked'em?
  1. Chipper Morning Wood 10 years ago
    
    Last time, he damn near killed them!
Brochettaward 10 years ago

The LP needs to hire the black homeless people Soros and BLM use. Better optics.
1. waffles 10 years ago
  
  The Bureau of Land Management denied my homeless application.
waffles 10 years ago

TL:DW

Just tell me the right answer to Jewish Bakers Nazi Cakes. Or Nazis Catering Barmitzvah. Whatever.
1. GILMORE? 10 years ago
  
  During the first hour of the Libertarian Party presidential forum that aired Friday night on the Fox Business Network, leading Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson admitted that in his view, Jewish bakers should be forced by government to bake wedding cakes for Nazis.
  
  The issue arose when fellow Libertarian presidential candidate Austin Petersen brought to the attention of moderator John Stossel that in an earlier debate in Oregon, Johnson declared that bakeries should be forced to bake wedding cakes for gay couples. Johnson affirmed the position, arguing that being able to discriminate on the basis of religion is a "black hole."
  
  Ugh. "Hole of color", please.
  1. Chipper Morning Wood 10 years ago
    
    Black is the absence of color
  2. Notorious UGCC 10 years ago
    
    Once you go black hole, you can't come back.
  3. SIV 10 years ago
    
    No way the LP nominates this loser twice
Annini 10 years ago

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James Anderson Merritt 10 years ago

I only wish somebody had been able to photobomb your post-debate commentary with a cardboard cutout of Kmele Foster. I'm eally missing "The Independents," especially during what may well be "your" year. But two out of three ain't bad.

Also, Matt: "First heave"? Really? Interesting choice of words.
1. James Anderson Merritt 10 years ago
  
  eally xxx REALLY
  
  (In my social circles, "eally" sounds like "eely," which, for us, has dark humor connotations that I didn't intend here. Cut-n-paste strikes again.)
Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer 10 years ago

It's good to have a libertarian debate.

I don't see, after watching it (oh, yes I did) how they're any worse than the clowns running for the two major parties.
1. jarflax 10 years ago
  
  Also not worse than said clowns
simplybe 10 years ago

Watched the 2nd part of the debate still like McAfee the best but would vote for Peterson. Also still think O'Reilly is a complete ass.
JoWaDat889 10 years ago

Dude I never even thought about that before.

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