Watch the First Part of the Libertarian Party Presidential Debate in Full!

Prepare for tonight's Part II by re-living John Stossel grilling Gary Johnson, John McAfee, and Austin Petersen last week

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As Ed Krayewski wrote earlier today, Nick Gillespie wrote yesterday, and John Stossel himself wrote the day before that, three of the leading candidates to be the Libertarian Party's presidential standard-bearer in this year of two-party disaffection will be coming back for part two of their Stossel-moderated debate tonight on Fox Business Network at 9 p.m ET. Once again, Kennedy and I will provide post-debate commentary.

I will hopefully have some more pre-game thoughts later, but for now I wanted everyone to enjoy and argue over last week's first heave below:

Comments

[GILMORE?]

when i hear "pre-game" and "heave", i think of college.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Pre-game warm ups and half-court heaves?

[GILMORE?]

pre?game
?pr????m/
North American
verb
informal
gerund or present participle: pre-gaming

(especially of a person who is underage) drink alcohol before attending an event or social function.
"a lot of the teenagers had pregamed before they got there"

heave
h?v/
informal

a case of retching or vomiting.
"waiting for the heaves to subside"

[SIV]

Grab its motherfucking leg

[Derpetologist]

For those who can't get enough:

Spot the Not: quotes about the US from its enemies

1. The Americans have the watches, but we have the time.

2. The Americans are good at making fancy cars and refrigerators, but that doesn't mean they are any good at making aircraft.

3. In appearance it is very powerful but in reality it is nothing to be afraid of; it is a paper tiger.

4. That paper tiger has nuclear teeth.

5. No matter how desperately the U.S. may roar, it is nothing but roar of a toothless wolf.The incarnation of all sorts of evil, the empire of devils, is bound to grow old and go to ruin.

6. The Americans are a little people, a silly people- greedy, barbarous, and cruel.

7. The Americans are stuck in Iraq and have no way out. They are like a wolf whose tail has been caught in a trap.

I won't be able to reveal the Not in a reasonable amount of time.

[Rich]

Oh, an easy one, D. You won't have to reveal it to this crowd.

Trust things are join well in your endeavor.

[Rich]

*going*

*** gets coffee ***

[GILMORE?]

""The Americans have the watches, but we have the time.""

Pretty sure the Wu Tang said this

"" The Americans are good at making fancy cars and refrigerators, but that doesn't mean they are any good at making aircraft.""

uh. We suck at making fancy cars. (props to germany). Refrigerators? The top 2 suppliers are both Korean.

""In appearance it is very powerful but in reality it is nothing to be afraid of; it is a paper tiger.""

Mao?

""That paper tiger has nuclear teeth.""

russians?

"""No matter how desperately the U.S. may roar, it is nothing but roar of a toothless wolf.The incarnation of all sorts of evil, the empire of devils, is bound to grow old and go to ruin.""

I guess bin laden.

""The Americans are a little people, a silly people- greedy, barbarous, and cruel.""

This is from Lawrence of Arabia.

"" The Americans are stuck in Iraq and have no way out.""

I'm pretty sure that was Elvis

[HeteroPatriarch]

I was thinking 6 was Monty Python at first, but that was a different quote.

[HeteroPatriarch]

Isn't 6 from Lawrence of Arabia?

[jarflax]

yes it is

[jarflax]

but with moar arab

[Free Society]

2

[GILMORE?]

in retrospect i will guess that it was something the Germans or Japanese said during WWII, suggesting that our industrial advantages would not necessarily translate to military capability

[HeteroPatriarch]

Goring, during the "Americans are soft flabby playboys" phase of the war.

[GILMORE?]

Sounds right

[HeteroPatriarch]

I know 2, 6 and 7. 1 sounds stupid-but-idiots-would-think-it's-clever enough to be one of the North Korea chunks, I've heard the paper tiger thing before, but I thought it was a Japanese guy before Pearl Harbor so 4 wouldn't make sense. 5 I have no idea. If there's only one not, it's 6, but is there more than one?

[Spencer]

DFW watching party? No cable... and a wife who hates politics.

[HeteroPatriarch]

Sorry, I don't do DFW.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

There is no DFW problem that can't be helped with a little DFP.

[Citizen X]

Honestly, i sort of stopped paying attention to the LP race once Morgan Freeman decided not to run.

[RBS]

The same Morgan Freeman who narrated several Hilary ads?

[Citizen X]

That's the joke.

[RBS]

In my defense, we are talking about the LP.

[Citizen X]

Can't watch it at work - did Austin Petersen brag about all the hot chicks he knows who are totally thinking about voting for him? Did Gary Johnson say anything libertarian? Did John McAfee have to choke a bitch?

[Rich]

IIRC, the takeaway is that McAfee is not a flaming lunatic.

[GILMORE?]

or, that he's a flaming lunatic who seems to keep his shit together better on stage than either of the other 2, who looked and acted like baked teenagers.

[DaveSs]

I think he knows how to gauge how much cuckoo his audience wants to hear.

Heard him on a somewhat small-time podcast a few months back. He sounded rather like Alex Jones there.

[mad.casual]

He needs to shave. With his voice and the beard, I'm never gonna see and hear him and not think 'Orson Welles'.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

A succinct summary, Citizen X. I wanna see McAfee choke Peterson while GayJay uses that as a seque about his experiences with thin oxygen on Mt.Everest.

[__Warren__]

I'm pulling for Johnson!

[Rich]

Are you a member of his staff?

[Citizen X]

I think he'll spurt ahead as the excitement of the race builds.

[Rich]

Indeed. He's already come into his own.

[__Warren__]

It sure looks that way at first glans.

[Domestic Dissident]

Remain firm in your resolve.

[Citizen X]

You might think the Libertarian candidates are all the same, but really, there's a vas deferens.

[Rich]

*** prostrates before Citizen X whilst awaiting Swiss ***

[Hamster of Doom]

Wankers.

[Rich]

?

That was totes uncalled for!

[Hamster of Doom]

That was scrotes uncalled for!

.... just keep still, I don't think anyone noticed...

[SoCal Deathmarch]

And both R's and D's will come all over.... to our side.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

So you are hoping Johnson will have wrecked'em?

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Last time, he damn near killed them!

[Brochettaward]

The LP needs to hire the black homeless people Soros and BLM use. Better optics.

[waffles]

The Bureau of Land Management denied my homeless application.

[waffles]

TL:DW

Just tell me the right answer to Jewish Bakers Nazi Cakes. Or Nazis Catering Barmitzvah. Whatever.

[GILMORE?]

During the first hour of the Libertarian Party presidential forum that aired Friday night on the Fox Business Network, leading Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson admitted that in his view, Jewish bakers should be forced by government to bake wedding cakes for Nazis.

The issue arose when fellow Libertarian presidential candidate Austin Petersen brought to the attention of moderator John Stossel that in an earlier debate in Oregon, Johnson declared that bakeries should be forced to bake wedding cakes for gay couples. Johnson affirmed the position, arguing that being able to discriminate on the basis of religion is a "black hole."

Ugh. "Hole of color", please.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Black is the absence of color

[Notorious UGCC]

Once you go black hole, you can't come back.

[SIV]

No way the LP nominates this loser twice

[Annini]

http://goo.gl/bPOBuL the best dating site for adults meeting.

[James Anderson Merritt]

I only wish somebody had been able to photobomb your post-debate commentary with a cardboard cutout of Kmele Foster. I'm eally missing "The Independents," especially during what may well be "your" year. But two out of three ain't bad.

Also, Matt: "First heave"? Really? Interesting choice of words.

[James Anderson Merritt]

eally xxx REALLY

(In my social circles, "eally" sounds like "eely," which, for us, has dark humor connotations that I didn't intend here. Cut-n-paste strikes again.)

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

It's good to have a libertarian debate.

I don't see, after watching it (oh, yes I did) how they're any worse than the clowns running for the two major parties.

[jarflax]

Also not worse than said clowns

[simplybe]

Watched the 2nd part of the debate still like McAfee the best but would vote for Peterson. Also still think O'Reilly is a complete ass.

[JoWaDat889]

Dude I never even thought about that before.

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