Friday A/V Club: NBC's Infamous Insta-Movie About Waco
A TV film that was so misleading, the screenwriter asked the surviving Davidians for forgiveness

The events now unfolding at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge have been compared and contrasted many times with the 1993 siege in Waco. Here is one significant difference: It's not nearly as hard to find different perspectives on the Oregon conflict. From the most high-minded political essays to the dumbest Facebook memes, the debate over the Oregon occupation has been open to a wide range of ideas about the case that set off the conflict, the goals of the people involved, and how the government ought to react. Six days into this saga, I've seen a lot of bloodthirsty garbage, but I've seen a lot of pushback against that too.
After a week of the Waco story, by contrast, the mass media were virtually unanimous in presenting the Branch Davidians as a dangerous cult that needed to be contained. Over the course of the stand-off and right afterward, rival narratives would begin to emerge, initially in the alternative media and eventually in mainstream venues. But you'd have to wait til well after the lethal fire that ended the siege before the critical voices were more than a small minority.
What did people see instead? Stuff like Ambush in Waco, a 1993 TV movie that was written before the stand-off had even ended and was broadcast a month after the fire. In 2001, screenwriter Phil Penningroth published a long and moving mea culpa for the film on the website Killing the Buddha. He describes how he had to write the script in a rush at a time when the only available sources were heavily biased against the Davidians, how despite that he nonetheless started to feel doubts about the story he was shaping, and how those doubts blossomed as new information emerged after the program aired. "Watching the movie," he writes,
I felt a strange mixture of pride and chagrin. By then I believed that what had been presented to the world as the destructive work of one crazed man and a bunch of zombies was really the collision of cultural forces. In our lust for money and fame, I believed that we had missed the opportunity to tell that larger, more important story. Sadly, in the end, I'd accomplished what I'd set out to do—written a movie that was both fast and good. But what did "good" mean? I had used my talent to create a drama so effective it convinced millions of people that the lies they saw on the screen were true.
From then on, almost every week brought new revelations about the Davidians' relative innocence and the government's deceptions. My remorse grew as I realized how much I had contributed to the simplified, wholly negative image of Koresh and his followers….I followed the congressional hearings that revealed much of the BATF's perfidy and cover-up. I felt foolish [at how] completely I had been misled and ashamed at how I had misled others in Ambush in Waco.
Penningroth tried to sell a follow-up movie that would tell a more accurate account, and when that went nowhere he decided to write a play instead. His research for the play led to still more remorse, and eventually to moments like this:
The more I came to know the Davidians as living, breathing human beings—even those who were dead, through the magic of tape—the more I realized how much damage I had done with the characterizations in the movie. This was brought home to me during a luncheon hosted by Clive Doyle and the surviving Davidians, a small number of old people, mostly women, and some mothers with young children who had left Mt. Carmel before the fire….[S]itting there, I realized that there was something I needed even more than their cooperation—forgiveness.
After telling them who I was and why I was there, that's what I asked for. Graciously, they gave it—but gracious didn't mean easy. One Hispanic woman at the end of the table spoke up. Her family had seen Ambush in Waco and, taking it as truth, blamed her for introducing several relatives to Koresh's "cult," an involvement that had led to their deaths in the fire. Ever since the movie aired, her family had shunned her. "I do forgive you," she told me. "But I want you to know that your movie destroyed my life."
Here is the film:
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...to the dumbest Facebook memes...
Present!
You don't have a Facebook, since two fully functioning kidneys are the only requirement.
DAMMIT!
Unilateral renal agenesis sufferers are the last group you can be bigoted against without repercussion.
If I could legally sell mine, I would.
Who knows what you've put through it.
I thought you (finally) got a job
I wonder if our resident "libertarian" american socialist will come tell us how those religious extremists all deserved to be burned to death, as he has done previously.
By then I believed that what had been presented to the world as the destructive work of one crazed man and a bunch of zombies was really the collision of cultural forces.
Joe Hackett commanding an army of the undead? Now that's a movie I want to see. Watch out, Roy!
Way to ruin the Wings comment I had planned.
I bet a zombie can shoot a basketball better than Brian Hackett.
OT:
Well that didn't take long: German vigilante group vows to protect women from migrant attackers as 34 suspects are arrested ? including three for gang-raping two teenagers. "Thousands have pledged their support to a German vigilante group which has vowed to protect women from migrants in the wake of the New Year's Eve attacks in Cologne. . . . After the group was launched, and gained thousands of followers overnight, a Dusseldorf police spokesman told local media that German police is responsible for public security. He said the police had no problem with people acting bravely in the face of crime but they were against 'self proclaimed vigilantes'." Well, then do your job, buddy.
What could possibly go wrong?
Too late to ask what could go wrong. Stuff started going wrong when Merkel said "Y'all come" and stuff went into the shitter New Year's Eve in Cologne, Dusseldorf, Hamburg, Stuttgart, Berlin and smaller places.
Fucking right to self defense. How does it work?
Yeah! Somebody might get raped!
I'm telling you, as soon as the weather gets warm, the rioting will start.
It will be known as Fl?chtlings Nacht.
"a Dusseldorf police spokesman told local media that German police is responsible for public security"
OK, now tell that to the police, they seem to have forgotten.
I vas born in Dusseldorf and zat is vhy zey call me Rolf!
Needs more horses, bedsheets
They are going to tuck the horses in at night?!
-1 AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHHHHH!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
apologies:
you know who else used self-proclaimed vigilantes to provide security...
Rick Grimes?
Seriously, the German establishment, despite its focus on being non-Nazis, forgets certain things.
A major problem with the Weimar Republic was that it often winked at, or punished insufficiently, nationalist violence like that of the Nazis. And it had a legitimacy problem the Nazis exploited.
Therefore...
If they *really* want to be not-Nazis, or non-Weimarites, the modern German government should crack down on violent gangs, *even if* those gangs aren't European in origin.
The Rolling Stones?
Curtis Sliwa?
Damn, beat me to it.
I think the answer is always Melissa Click.
Quentin Tarantino?
They should wear some sort of informal uniform so everyone knows who they are. Maybe they could wear shirts that are all the same color. Black or brown, maybe, something intimidating, you know?
Who should wear the uniforms, the rioters or the people who want to defend themselves against the rioters?
With some cool-looking lighting bolts on the lapels....
You've got to hand it to the SS - they had some sweet uniforms. No denying it.
Will they wear brown shirts and sing patriotic songs?
Remember two days ago when Salon explained to us that Evil Uber failed in Germany because Germans are great rule followers?
LOL
I mean... right now that's the equivalent of an Internet petition.
"Well, then do your job, buddy."
Demanding that police somehow prevent crime is a surefire way to totalitarianism. Nativist hysteria never hurt, either.
OT
ISIS = Just doing what's best for their community
"An Islamic State militant executed his mother in public in the Syrian city of Raqqa because she had encouraged him to leave the group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported on Friday.
The woman in her 40s had warned her son that a U.S.-backed alliance would wipe out Islamic State and had encouraged him to leave the city with her'"
Kids these days! (shakes fist)
Obviously, 'unverified', but the Syrian 'observatory for human rights' group has been the main source for almost everything ISIS has done to date, and hasn't ever needed to engage in any fabulism to date. If anything, its plausible simply because *why would anyone need to make shit up about these guys?*. At lest credit the ISIS folk for continually one-upping their own capability for credulity-straining.
"My own mother calling me a deluded fanatic - I'll show her!"
Now he has to go marry his father, right?
Now he has to go marry his father, right?
You're thinking of the Greeks
I think their mythology requires them to continually one up themselves. After you have soldiers shooting their own mothers, you really don't have much farther to go.
I think if left to their own devices, they would fragment into civil war in two or three years.
""two or three years.""?
I'd give them 2-3 minutes.
I'm thinking particularly of the "Fall of Damascus" scenes from Lawrence of Arabia. The one thing that always destroy Arab tribal unity is "success"
I find this credible. It's fucking Lord of the Flies
One does not simply walk into Raqqa.
One bombs it into dust, from the very air....
You know who else made a misleading film but - in this case - never had a chance to apologize for it...
Michael Moore?
Kim K and Ray J?
Nicely done!
What was misleading about that? Does Kim K really NOT just lie there and take it like a plastic fuck doll?
Oliver Stone?
Joaquin Phoenix.
Louis J. Gasnier?
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula?
Leni Reifenstahl?
Bill Clinton should have accepted Janet Reno's resignation.
Bill Clinton should have accepted Janet Reno's resignation had Janet Reno cashiered like Branded.
Why would he have? Is there any evidence that she did anything other than what he wanted her to do?
Surely you wouldn't expect the President to resign just because he gave the order that concluded with the deaths of 70+ American citizens? Better the coke-bottle visaged lesbian should go down instead. As it turned out, the American people didn't give a shit, just like they didn't care about Obama's willingness to take American lives in 2012.
I am beginning to think that this whole "voting" thing might result in blind tribalism, perverse incentives, and bad people getting their hands on the reins of executive power. But as I'm not quite sure, let's have eight years of Hillary to see whether I can confirm that suspicion.
I hope president Hilary brings this filmmaker to justice.
It's HilLary, you savage!
These religious Psycos got what they deserved.
Look, like the Muslims that wear bombs and blow themselves up, The Waco in Waco along with his family are in Heaven. Who could ask for anything more.
Jesse, Weren't you working for Liberty magazine around the time when this transpired. I was a subscriber for a few years after the Fabulous and Infamous Clintonian Waco and Ruby Ridge Atrocities, which you guys covered in some depth and with more honestly than any MSM outlet at the time. This was Way back long ago, in the Before Times. Just a simple magazine, nothing the kids these days would even recognize as any such thing, just a plain black and blue cover, no bling or pictures or tits and ass. In fact it had nothing to offer a young man like me at all, other than some subversive philosophy and dangerous ideas. All so benignly and innocently packaged inside of a few dozen plain jane pages of some damn fine writing. Like giving intellectual roofies to unsuspecting boy scouts. With a side of mescaline laced smores for dessert. So I think you are obviously partially to blame for my current condition, you degenerate rat bastard mother fucker. It would probably be 10X more appropriate to say something along these lines about Casey but that wily cocksucker is way the fuck down there in Argentina, which has no extradition treaty. Bradford, God rest his soul, is surely in Heaven. Or some other dimension to the south of there, either way I am sure he is pissing off all of the right people. And with absolutely no possibility of extradition as well.