Mainstream Media Finally Takes Interest in Massive Discrepancy Between Hillary Clinton and the Benghazi Families
Did she or did she not promise to 'have the film maker arrested who was responsible'? The Washington Post advances the story.

If Hillary Clinton told one or more bereaved family members at a Sept. 14, 2012 ceremony for the four U.S. personnel killed in Benghazi that "We are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of [your] son," that would be big news for at least three reasons. 1) The administration official in charge of American foreign policy (and the biggest Cabinet-level influencer of the U.S. intervention into Libya) would be laying direct responsibility not on the Libyan perpetrators of the deadly, armed, and at least semi-planned attack, but on an amateur filmmaker in Cerritos, California whose allegedly triggering trailer was posted on YouTube three months prior. 2) A secretary of state would be vowing an as-yet unannounced prosecution by a department she does not and certainly should not run. 3) Said prosecution would indeed begin two weeks later. The free-speech implications alone of such a story are huge.

Well, that story has been in the public realm since Oct. 23, 2012, when Charles Woods, father of the slain Tyrone Woods, went on the Lars Larson radio show (and then Glenn Beck, and then Sean Hannity), telling a story that has not changed substantially over time: "She made the statement to me that first of all she was sorry," Woods told Beck, "and then she said 'We will make sure the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.'" Eventually Woods—a retired lawyer and former administrative law judge—would produce a diary (pictured), which The Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes saw and described a few months back:
a small leather black datebook…maybe the size of a calculator, with 2012 engraved in gold on the front…. He began reading from the entry that started on September 14, the day of the ceremony, and continued into the space for the following day. It ran just five or six lines, written in pencil.
The relevant part of the entry is this:
I gave Hillary a hug and shook her hand. And she said we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son.
Again, this is pretty big news, from a credible-sounding witness (a second family member from that day, Patricia Smith, mother of the killed Sean Smith, has made similar claims, but also in a more hyperbolic manner, and without the corroborating detail). So how long did it take Hillary Clinton to be asked on the record, either by a journalist or member of Congress, to answer this explosive allegation with words other than "no" and "comment"?
Unless I am missing something (and please let me know if I am), more than 1,000 days.

The dam was finally broken this past Dec. 6 by former inner-circle Clinton administration official George Stephanopoulus. The entire relevant exchange; bolding will be mine:
STEPHANOPOULOS: Some GOP rivals and family members of the Benghazi victims are saying you lied to them in that [Oct. 23] hearing. They point to emails that you sent the night of the attack, one to your daughter, Chelsea Clinton, saying…"We were silent…two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group." Another one to the Egyptian prime minister, "we know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest."
But the family members, as you know, say you told them it was by a filmmaker, you'd go after the filmmaker. Here's what they said.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PATRICIA SMITH: She lied. She absolutely lied. Her daughter was able to be told differently that it was not the video, it was something else. Now if her daughter could be told, why can't I?
CHARLES WOODS: Either she was lying to the prime minister, or she was lying to me and to the American public.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: Did you tell them it was about the film? And what's your response?
CLINTON: No.
You know, look I understand the continuing grief at the loss that parents experienced with the loss of these four brave Americans. And I did testify, as you know, for 11 hours. And I answered all of these questions.
Now, I can't—I can't help it the people think there has to be something else there. I said very clearly there had been a terrorist group that had taken responsibility on Facebook between the time that I—you know, when I talked to my daughter, that was the latest information. We were giving it credibility. And then we learned the next day it wasn't true. In fact, they retracted it.
This was a fast moving series of events in the fog of war. And I think most Americans understand.
That last bolded part—"And I answered all of these questions"—is a Clintonian specialty, dating back to ancient WTF scandals like Travelgate, and continuing through the more serious questions about her private email server as secretary of state. At various times during just about any controversy, Clinton will say, with a note of exasperation, that she has already answered or revealed everything anyone could want, even though clearly she has not.
More importantly, we now had a she-said/they-said situation on our hands about an issue of some import. So how did the mainstream media cover this development? Mostly, they did not. Interest in this advancement of the story was almost exclusively covered by conservatives: The Blaze, FrontPage Magazine, Guy Benson at TownHall, and so on.

Well, that changed today. Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler this morning put together the most thoroughgoing account of the discrepancies I have seen thus far, including interviews with multiple family members (including several who said they heard no such thing from Hillary Clinton that day), and this new-to-me exchange between the Democratic front-runner and Conway Daily Sun columnist Tom McLaughlin:
McLaughlin: "Somebody is lying. Who is it?"
Clinton: "Not me, that's all I can tell you….I can't recite for you everything that was in a conversation where people were sobbing, where people were distraught, the president and the vice president, we were all making the rounds talking to people, listening to people. I was in a very difficult position because we have not yet said two of the four dead were CIA … This was a part of the fog of war."
Note: If Charles Woods is indeed lying, his lie involves a former lawyer and judge making an intentionally fraudulent entry into his diary. I think there's a good reason why Clinton is giving herself the wiggle room of "I can't recite for you everything that was in a conversation where people were sobbing," while intimating that grief-stricken families may have heard or conflated something that didn't precisely take place like that (a possibility Kessler seriously entertains).
Ultimately, Kessler gives the controversy a "No Rating" on his fact-checking scale, which seems appropriate given what we know, and the reporting he has done to move the story further. His kicker:
Clearly we cannot come to a resolution that would be beyond dispute. Readers will have to come to their own conclusions based on the evidence we have assembled.
It's a shame, and a revealing one, that it took this long for the mainstream media as a whole to take seriously this story. Kudos to Glenn Kessler for breaking the ice.
Related Reason TV content: Former CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson talks about the White House's Benghazi spin:
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Will not matter.
Any D. could commit buggery with an infant at high noon in the platz, and it would be ignored by the media who would focus on The Donald's most recent loud-mouthing.
Yup, exactly. Obama, Hillary, and Bernie could simultaneously devour a live infant on national television while using the Constitution as a napkin and the story would be about whether Republicans were overreacting.
If she's losing a debate in the general election, she could pull a pistol and blow her opponents'' brains out on national TV. The next day the stories will all be how he deserved it and she didn't commit a crime.
Look, Trump made an obnoxious commercial, why are you trying to distract from that?!
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They'd cite it as an example of how common sense gun laws work.
Criticizing Hillary is perpetuating the GOP WAR ON WOMEN. So stop it.
Indeed, this is all much ado about nothing. A little lie here, a little lie there, who cares? Hillary was right to promise what she promised, because we have had enough of those who disseminate trigger-speech in America under the pretext of the so-called "First Amendment." See the documentation of our great nation's leading criminal "satire" case:
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The media is not "taking an interest" this.
They are clearing the decks of it prior to the general election.
Geez Matt, aren't you supposed to know how this game has been played?
Or was this your part of the assignment?
I'm amazed Matt had time to write this article. In between appearing on MSNBC, and writing Trump hit pieces.
They realize they need to get this out of the way before it taints the coronation.
The Narrative is Hillary's Hero's Journey to becoming the first woman president and it cannot, and must not, be diverted.
Yes, that way when the republicans try to bring it up it will be "this is old news, already covered, move on!"
Heh, heh, you said "taint"
"We already covered that in January!"
1) Old News
2) Fake Scandal
3) Everyone knows Hillary is a champion of oppressed people everywhere
4) This video was so offensive, it led to one attack on one consulate one time
5) Vast right-wing conspiracy
6) What, with a cloth?
Koch brothers.
War on women.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!
GLOBAL WARMING!!!
If we can stop just one jihadist by throwing out the First Amendment, it's worth it. DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT SAFETY???
"We are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of [your] son,"
Remember kids, putting the full might and fury of the federal government behind a dubious prosecution on trumped up charges... that's a fake scandal!
Damn that's an infuriating line, if she did speak it.
PATRICIA SMITH: She lied. She absolutely lied. Her daughter was able to be told differently that it was not the video, it was something else. Now if her daughter could be told, why can't I?
Because Diane Reynolds is in charge! DIANE'S IN CHARGE!
NEVER! IT IS "CHARLES IN CHARGE!"
#scottbaiomatters
Hillary is terrible in every conceivable way. This is so far down the list of awful things she has said and done I can't even begin to care about it though.
Yeah, throwing the principle of free speech under the bus of national and international criticism as a scapegoat for her own department's culpability is way far down the list of awful things she has done.
Well realize this is just the first of many reason they will use to limit the 1st right after they work around the 2nd
The first? Surely you jest. Hillary has a long and storied history of opposition to the first amendment. Just think of how much she loved violent video games all those years ago.
As mentioned below, there is a forthcoming Reason cover you may enjoy....
And trying to ban the movie that was critical of her, don't forget that one. That was great, it resulted in the Supreme Court saying that corporations have freedom of speech, and made all the libtards go insane. Good times, good times.
She promised the prosecution of a private citizen over the making of a YouTube video. That s not small potatoes of you care at all about free speech.
She has soany large potatoes, its still down the list.
It's small potatoes because I, like most people, don't actually believe a god damn word that comes out of her mouth.
She's even terrible in her mendacity. She lies like she breathes, but without the subtlety of her husband.
Clinton and Obumbles were all over TV blaming this on some damn video. The MSM were backing that claim for how long? Two weeks?
Now they say what was well documented and seen by everyone that none of it happened?
Fuck Cankles and anyone who supports the lying, incompetent, corrupt, criminal bitch.
That lying, incompetent, corrupt, criminal bitch is more than likely going to be our next President.
Does anyone know where I can get a bulk purchase rate on cyanide and Flavor-Aid?
She's already promised that is she's POTUS, that she'll go way further than Obama in bypassing congress to get things done. This is one thing that she's said that I actually believe.
No, but I can point you in the right direction for bulk purchases of ammo.
Dude, I just do not buy this idea that Hillary is going to be President. FFS I grew up in the 90's and she was already old news back then--now the left wants to dig her up twenty years later and pretend she's the latest greatest thing? lol
This is *nothing* like the Obobo elections. There is *zero* enthusiasm for her candidacy. All those blacks whose votes were instrumental for O--how many of them are going to bother to go vote for Hillary fucking Clinton? They aren't going to give a warm shit about this election. I just hope the Republicans aren't seriously going to send Donald Trump to the election, I'm ready for him to crash and burn any day now.
The founding fathers went to great lengths to make certain that something like Trump could not become president. If the GOP superPAC fueled ads don't sink him in the primaries then at the GOP convention there will be for the first time in a long time an action convention vote and the party will get rid of him then. No chance he makes it to the ticket.
Now say at that point he still wants more attention (because I don't believe for a second he actually wants to be president.) he runs as an independent. A disenfranchised public now seeing their vote is even more meaningless than they realized vote more heavily for him than expected. Of course the way the system is designed no way he can get more votes, especially electoral votes, than the parties. But let's say he gets a few and neither party gets 270.
Now Congress gets to vote on who the POTUS and VP are. And that would be whoever the Republican runner was.
Theoretically Trump could win the primary and not be on the ticket, could then win the popular vote and still barely have any electoral votes and not be President.
#onepersononevote
I seem to recall that. Didn't Obama even make appearances on some day time TV shows to spout that line? If I remember correctly, they not only said it but they went out of their way to make sure as many people heard it as possible.
"2) A secretary of state would be vowing an as-yet unannounced prosecution by a department she does not and certainly should not run.".
Memo To Matt:
Do you know who the fuck I am?
Love,
Hillary Clinton
P.S. If Matt were to write another Myth of a Maverick style biography, doing it about Hillary Clinton would be the ginchiest
The similarities are many. I think you might enjoy our forthcoming cover story....
We promise we'll scour the Potomac for your body after you disappear Matt.
Speak for yourself, Hyp. Matt is pretty cool and all, but it is cold out there.
Do Climtom operatives use cement shoes, or woodchippers?
Fostered, swims with the fishes, etc.
She's the totem for all that remains abhorrent about the sycophant brigades.
The emails I sent my to my daughter (who received them under an assumed name), which were located on my secret, unauthorized email server, clearly prove that I took the Benghazi attack seriously and did not use a youtube video to deflect blame.
You left out the part where her daughter, who has no security clearance, was receiving classified info.
What difference at this point does it make?
For some reason that line never gets old to me.
We need more investigation into why the filmmaker was arrested. Who made the decision and why? What prompted it? Was there any contact from higher level officials or officials with the federal government? There has been basically Zero investigation into that end of things.
Hazel...
Invest in a new mouse. 😉
I'm not using a mouse. I'm using a touch screen on my cell phone.
What's happening is when you press the submit button, the application is capturing multiple click events before the page is closed and the browser redirected to the posting page.
Press once and wait, I guess. And hope that reason fires the guy creating the bloatware that is the commenting section.
Like, ONE line of JavaScript could fix the issue. Or at least drastically reduce the problem. Some more lines of code could easily prevent any and all duplicate posts.
But what about an "edit" button?
And what about the film maker: Nakoula Basseley Nakoula?
WHERE is he and WHY isn't he suing for false imprisonment?
Was he paid off by the Clinton Foundation?
No shit. I remember pictures of the guy being arrested, and he was detained for awhile, then they sent him down the memory hole.
I hate Hillary. That said, as politically motivated as it was, the "movie guy" had his probation pulled because he uploaded stuff he wasn't allow by his parole conditions. It's not some great conspiracy. They dropped the hammer on him as cover. But he did violate his parole.
We need more investigation into why the filmmaker was arrested. Who made the decision and why? What prompted it? Was there any contact from higher level officials or officials with the federal government? There has been basically Zero investigation into that end of things.
We need more investigation into why the filmmaker was arrested. Who made the decision and why? What prompted it? Was there any contact from higher level officials or officials with the federal government? There has been basically Zero investigation into that end of things.
You are nothing if not persistent.
The proggies don't care. They are team players down to the last miserable pseudo-sentient two-legged meat Popsicle. They will vote team blue because they want team blue to win, and they are convinced she will win.
I see that you get pissed when the "if we don't vote for a lizard then the wrong lizard might get in" principle is used against you...
Some reptiles are more palatable then other creatures...so yes I am a team player, and I despise those mealy mouthed little Team Blue shits.
And until Your Future Reptilian Overlords take over (and I can get my 40 watt plasma rifle back) I want to keep my collection of earth-manufactured implements of destruction.
Iguanas are pretty good.
This is exactly right. The problem is not that Hillary is lying and corrupt; everyone knows she's lying and corrupt. The problem is her supporters just don't care.
Which is why their numbers must be reduced. Is this a good time to discuss my plan to euthanize all the progressives.
I saw an ad for an upcoming movie promising to tell the untold story of Benghazi.
I'm assuming the movie will be about a heroic, grief stricken Sec of State, played by Jodie Foster, who single handedly saved hundreds of lives, but those mean Republicans who run the media and the Gov't wouldn't let the story out.
It looked like it was blaming some faceless middleman. If only comrade Hillary had known about the attack...
Jodie Foster? I thought Tea Leoni was "Madame Secretary".
Tea is TV Hillary. For the movie, we'll have to up the game a bit - maybe Charlize Theron?
I'm going with Uma Thurman in the straight to YouTube crossover hit, "Kill Bill 3 - For reals this time."
Lena Dunham + the guy who did Emperor Palpatine's makeup?
The trailers are showing that it's a story of six brave men who went in despite their order, despite the danger, to do the right thing.
As Florida Man says, the stand done could come from a faceless middle man, or from an unnamed general or secretary.
"I'm trying to call the secretary to get confirmation, but no one's answering."
"Well, you know it is 3 am in DC"
What a low-life Hillary is.
I just don't understand a person with a modicum of decency would vote for her. She clearly is not competent.
Bend over. I'll show you fog of war.
The nation's only hope is that screaming campus garbage babies currently backing Sanders do something positive for their country by staying home on election day instead of voting for Hillary.
I know MANY people that appear otherwise intelligent that will gleefully pull the lever for her. Progressives have no morals or ethics. They love communism, and nothing else.
*the Frigg of War.
PHAIK SKANDULZ!#!!111!!!11
We have them on record for weeks after the attack claiming it was about the video and not due to terrorist. of course the mainstream media will never repeat those videos.
I'm sure that's just what he wanted to hear after his son was lynched. That guy who may have inspired the ire of murderous savages half a world away? We'll hurt him for you!
Even given Biden's gross populist hucksterism, I don't think we've seen a cabinet member/potential executive quite as tone-deaf as Hillary since at least Nixon, as she's probably worse than that.
That's a sociopath right there.
Still can't believe that video somehow exists. Her handlers must've broken out in assholes and shit themselves when they saw it.
If the GOP is smart, come fall they'll run a series of ads featuring nothing but Hillary's Greatest Hits over the past 25 years. "Hillary on Hillary."
"If the GOP is smart"
Good one.
"If the Stupid Party is smart" Um, okay.
They could have done that with Obama, and didn't.
I see no evidence that the GOP has grown a single brain cell, or testicle, since then.
Now, Trump on the other hand . . . .
Yes, but BHO has charm and is a capable campaigner, whereas Hillary is obviously a sociopath. Her sole selling points are that she's a Democrat and once had sex with Bill Clinton, which could be said for about 5% of the combined populations of Arkansas and DC.
That whole thing where the modern president has to act like a charming celebrity or someone you'd have a beer with? Hillary doesn't do that. She gives off more of a devour-your-children-alive vibe.
They have grown an ovary.
The GOP might not. But Trump would.
You know, even more than the families, I think Ms. Clinton owes an apology to the film-maker. This poor bastard got thrown in jail, essentially, to support her lie.
Anything for the narrative. The narrative must not be questioned.
The left-wing baby boomer editors and executives in the media are probably hanging on at work just so they can get another one of their own in office before they retire and spend our inheritances.
Ignore, Dismiss, Deny, Divert Blame, Excuse, Paper Over, Call People "Obsessed" For Keeping Issue Alive
is there one i missed?
I don't know if i heard this somewhere else, or if it occurred to me in an epiphany... but i was once talking to a buddy about the special Japanese attitude re: 'War Crimes' .....
(i think at the time the good-looking Japanese PM Koizumi was visiting the Yasukuni Shrine to WWII dead, including 'war criminals')...
and i described this special-attitude as,
"First of all: It never happened. Second of all.... They deserved it!"
The ability to maintain both ideas simultaneously is the unique accomplishment. You can't be objectively "guilty" if you never feel subjectively "guilty". So if you don't *feel bad*, then well, it probably never happened in the first place. So = Never feel bad! Therefore whatever happened was probably something else.
The Clintons seem to have learned this Japanese art many years ago.
its modern moralism nothing is to be judged but everyone else is to be punished
In Dave Barry Does Japan, there is a serious chapter on the Hiroshima monument. He says it basically treats the bombs as a natural disaster.
Yes, but that's almost an entirely different issue. Japan has a weird love-affair with "mass-killing disasters". Its why Godzilla always destroys Tokyo, over and over again. Because Tokyo DID get destroyed over and over again. They have a city-destroying fetish. Whether Earthquake or Curtis LeMay or Godzilla makes no difference. Shit happens, cities disappear. Get over it.
The attribution to "forces of nature" probably has something to do with Shinto. The Kami is whut dun it. (shrug, rings bell)
With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
His B-29s bomb the spitting high tension wires down
Helpless people on a subway train
Scream bug-eyed as he bombsites in on them
His planes blow up a bus and he shoots it back down
As he flies through the buildings toward the center of town
Oh no, they say he's got to go go go LeMay
Oh no, there goes Tokyo go go LeMay
History shows again and again
How the USAAF points up the folly of men
Also = Neo-neo-neo-neo-Tokyo
Let's be honest. Given their tastes in porn, city destroying is the LEAST of their fetishes.
Lets see...two witness describing a conversation with Secretary Clinton and her recollection of the conversation is different. Who should we believe? Answer: the politician of course, because politicians never lie.
These people are complete lowlifes. They voted for Obama on the advice of their own children and then accuse him of 'murder' for their deaths. Sorry but first of all take some responsibility for your voting. (I can see all the Trump voters now saying, "But we didn't know he was gonna kill **ALL** the Muslims!! Boo hoo!!!") Secondly don't send your children to the Middle East to protect us from terrorists if you will later blame the president for their deaths when they try. This is a war and their children bravely entered it. If there were mistakes then they should be adjudicated. The president is not responsible for every skirmish in a war that's already killed thousands. What the hell.
Now = again, but with feeling.
Yes, he is. That's what the term "Commander-in-Chief" means. One such C-in-C was found of saying "The buck stops here".
I can see all the Trump voters now saying, "But we didn't know he was gonna kill **ALL** the Muslims!! Boo hoo!!!
You're a more charitable man than I am.
"But we didn't know he was gonna make us kill **ALL** the Muslims!!"
The State Department uses children to guard our diplomats? No wonder they got killed.
Damn, who would have thought those kindergartners would be ineffective against a planned Al Qaeda attack?
Even so, if Slick Hilly were telling the truth now, she should have corrected the claims at the time they were made. There can be no doubt she knew about them.
Yeah, she answered those questions. She answered them with baldfaced lies. Is the media going to hold her feet to the fire for that? Not holding my breath.
-jcr
You left out one of the biggest reasons this should be news:
She is on record in her email as saying the filmmaker had nothing to do with it, at the same time she was saying to these families that he was responsible.
At this point, what difference does it make?
Whatever happened to "We will bring the perpetrators of this to justice!"
Where is that?
Didn't they meet up with one in a coffee shop or something?
Probably stuck him with the bill. That'll show him!
But that is an excellent question, one that would make a dandy press or debate question.
They didn't get a Christmas card from the Clinton Foundation that year
No they donated a million bucks to a young woman in the Caribbean as hush money.
I don't understand. She openly stated at the coffin ceremony that the attack was a result of the video. Everyone knows that was a blatant lie. Why is what she told the family members more important than that?
Its a trap, Ice. Get her to deny saying it to the family, then spring what she said at the ceremony.
This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We've seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We've seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html
Never mind. I just realized she said "embassies" and of course Benghazi was a "consulate". She's off the hook.
It actually wasn't even consider a "consulate" and therefore was exempt from regulations of security. I can't remember what they called it but it was exempt from the regs. Convenient, huh?
If it comes down to either Hillary Clinton lying or someone else lying, the smart money is on Hillary to be the liar.
Remember how the press treated Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son in Iraq? Now, compare how reporters have either ignored or downplayed this situation connected directly to Hillary Clinton. It's telling, to say the very least.
Trigger this (holding my semi-flaccid erection in my hand".
As the flag draped coffins are being wheeled from the plane she clearly states "over an awful internet video we had nothing to do with" at 6:18 in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d__S8nEqW0
So who you going to believe this Hillary or the new one?
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She is a shrill, dishonest viper, but she will get the Democratic nomination. Makes you wonder what leads people to voluntarily want to put a person like that in charge... There must be some kind of mass Democrat dementia. M.D.D clinical research should be undertaken to see if it's treatable. My guess is that the cure involves a lobotmy, if not the cause.
When I think about Hillary, I like to think of the look on her face as the light's about to go out and she realizes what she was.
Call me sentimental.