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Star Wars as the Story of Luke Skywalker's Terrorist Radicalization

Arguing about politics is part of what makes Star Wars fandom so much fun.


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Is Star Wars really the story of young Luke Skywalker's terrorist radicalization?

A new piece at Decider by pseudonymous Internet Person Comfortably Smug (@ComfortablySmug) makes a strangely compelling case that the original trilogy is largely the story of a young man's journey from innocent farmboy to radical anti-imperial terrorist fighter.

Here, for example, is how the piece describes Luke's initial encounter with Obi Wan Kenobi, his mentor and counselor in the first film:

Obi Wan — a religious fanatic with a history of looking for young boys to recruit and teach an extreme interpretation of the Force — is practically salivating when he stumbles upon Luke, knowing he's found a prime candidate for radicalization.

And here's the riff on Luke's training with Yoda during the second act of Empire Strikes Back:

Yoda accepts Luke into his religious "school," teaching Luke Jedi fundamentalism and guerilla warfare. Like many extremist mullahs, Yoda demands total adherence to his strict interpretation of the Force and seeks to strip Luke of independent thinking. Yoda's push to radicalize Luke, rob him of an identity, and instill obedience are apparent when at various points he instructs Luke to "Clear your mind of questions," "Unlearn what you have learned" and, most grimly, "Do, or do not, there is no try." The Jedi know it is imperative to force mindless devotion in warriors they recruit for their holy war. Armed with new combat training and cloaked in a hardline religious fervor, Luke leaves Dagobah, impatient to put his terror training to use.

Like all such exercises—including Jonathan Last's case for the Empire in The Weekly Standard, and the more recent defense of the destruction of Alderaan by the Washington Free Beacon's Sonny Bunch—the piece is at least somewhat tongue in cheek, but it's a good a reminder that, despite its pop frivolity, Star Wars is an intensely political story, one that draws explicitly from foreign policy history and the particular political climate in during which it was made.

That goes for the series' stark visuals, which clearly riff on Nazi iconography during World War II; imagery from the trailers suggests an even stronger link in The Force Awakens, and director J.J. Abrams has confirmed that villains in the new film are based at least in part on thought-experiments about what might have happened had a Nazi remnant continued after World War II.

Even the giant space battles during the original series called back to that war; Lucas pushed the special effects team at Industrial Light and Magic to copy the sorts of angles and aerial acrobatics seen in old World War II dog fight films.

And then, of course, there is the Battle of Endor in Return of the Jedi, which pits low-tech Ewoks against the powerful, advanced weaponry of the Empire. In the 1983 PBS documentary From Star Wars to Jedi, Lucas says that this battle was inspired by his work on another project about the Vietnam War.

"One of the more fascinating aspects of that project," he says, "was the human spirit, the human element, being able to withstand an onslaught of high technology—and how the high technology had failed." Lucas isn't exactly making a clear political statement here, but he's pulling from the political events that defined his time, and using them as fodder for his sci-fi mythmaking.

That would continue in the prequel trilogy that ran from 1999 through 2005; the first entry, The Phantom Menace, opens with reference to an ongoing interplanetary trade dispute (how's that for an exciting opener?), and the third film the trilogy, Revenge of the Sith, seemed at times like an extremely loose allegory for the George W. Bush presidency and the Iraq war.

As I said, it's all fairly political, and recognizes that politics are inevitably part of human affairs, but that's not to say that Star Wars is designed to make a straightforward, unambiguous political statement. For the most part, the series does not insist on any particular political point or ideology. Instead, it offers a broad template onto which multiple ideas and interpretations can be applied, mixing and matching various cultural and political influences in order to help build out its world and tell its story in a way that allows for a wide variety of arguments and interpretations—as well as the possibility of enjoyment without thinking much about politics at all.

That variability is part of what's allowed the series to become such a prominent cultural artifact, and allowed so many people to adopt it as their own, including politicians themselves.

Just as Star Wars has always engaged with politics, politicians have long engaged with Star Wars: There's the Reagan-era missile defense program named after the franchise, the Obama White House's response to a petition to build the Death Star, and Dick Cheney, who has embraced his role as the GOP's Darth Vader, walking on stage to the Imperial March, Vader's theme music, at an event in Florida last month.

For my part, at least, arguing about the politics of these movies, and the fictional universe in which they are set, is part of what makes Star Wars fandom so much fun. I was lucky enough to get to discuss the politics and cultural impact of the films last week with Sonny Bunch and The Washington Post's Alyssa Rosenberg in an event hosted by Reason in Washington, D.C. You can watch the full video of the discussion below:

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  1. Of course Luke’s radicalization has nothing to do with the Empire destroying his home and killing his parents. Jedis are just an inherently violent religion.

    1. Come to think of it, aren’t the Jedi pretty much a self-selecting, unaccountable bunch? They work with the Senate, but they don’t actually answer to it, or to anyone else. They’re less a police force than a vigilante force.

      1. They are a private police/paramilitary force. The Republic apparently did not have much of either of those type of official organizations at the federal level.

        1. Fortunately Donald Trump was elected Chancellor, and he made sure not one sand person got onto Coruscant.

    2. While the prequel Jedi do some pretty questionable things, Luke’s good-guy credentials seem pretty solid. For now, anyway. I understand that Abrams intends to combine Luke and Khan into a single character.

      1. Luke is absolutely going to be the big bad in Episode VII

        1. Seems possible. Or maybe it’s a misdirection and we’re getting a not dead and very angry Biggs.

          I think he fails to deal with someone going Dark Side because of family feelings, then gets dragged back into action as a reluctant hero.

        2. Nah. He’s a hermit who has sequestered himself to let the Jedi die out, I think. Han is Obi-wan, Luke is Yoda.

        3. You may be right, but I cannot imagine a way to do that that is not assassinating Luke’s character.

          1. There’s nothing antithetical to Luke’s character in him succumbing to the Dark Side, especially if he thinks he’s serving a greater cause. The whole arc of Empire and Jedi was about his fears of becoming his father.

            1. That sounds like prequel talk, Hugh. Luke may have gotten shit from Yoda, but he was pretty much all good guy.

              1. The scene in the cave on Dagoba ends with Luke’s face beneath Darth Vader’s mask. There’s at least one shot in Jedi that contrasts Luke’s severed robot hand with Vader’s. He Force-chokes that pig guard in Jabba’s palace. He feels anger and hatred that Palpatine can sense enough to goad him on about.

            2. And he faced his greatest trial and got over it. To say he later did succumb undermines everything that happens in Jedi. I can’t imagine a way to justify him going full evil. Bad, arguably on the wrong side? Maybe. But he’s not going to be cutting down innocents with a lightsaber. That’s preposterous. And that’s what big bads do in Star Wars movies.

              1. lol got over it. Good thing personal moral struggles are like a sore throat!

              2. I agree. While I can see Abrams shitting on the original, I don’t see Disney letting him. Not unless they come up with an insanely good explanation for his fall.

                Luke could’ve plausibly gone bad in ROTJ if they’d done it differently, but it’s hard to believe Luke as a Dark Side guy.

                1. So he wasn’t the Jedi Jesus.

                2. Luke turning to the Dark Side and Han and Leia having to hide from/fight him would be interesting storytelling and make for a satisfying character arc. The dust raining from the joints of creaky old fans as they shake their canes in protest would merely be icing on the cake.

                  1. It’s not that. I’d be okay with Luke turning–fuck, isn’t that what Jedi do?–but I think it will be hard to do after his actions at the end of ROTJ. I think the more plausible path is for him to refuse to act, only to realize that by so doing, he is doing evil.

                  2. Luke turning to the Dark Side and Han and Leia having to hide from/fight him would be interesting storytelling and make for a satisfying character arc.

                    Isn’t the fear of him doing this, one of the appeals of the Machete Order for viewing the Star Wars movies?

                    It made a lot of sense when I first read the guy’s post.

        4. Luke is absolutely going to be the big bad in Episode VII

          Oh please. We’re talking about a franchise that has been crapped up with Ewoks and Jar-Jar Binks, one where the director actually went back and re-edited a movie to moral ambiguity that had been there from the beginning. They’re sure as hell not going to go the route of “Surprise! The hero of the first three movies turns evil!”

        5. He’s a loose cannon, always has been. Vader was always the hero. The Skywalker Paradigm is alive and well.

    3. Of course Luke’s radicalization has nothing to do with the Empire destroying his home and killing his parents

      Luke’s Father died well after his radicalization, and his abandoning the farm life had nothing to do with his mother’s demise decades before.

      You’re also ignoring his pre-existing anti-imperial tendencies. He was already pestering his legal gardians for the opportunity to leave and attack Imperial targets beforehand. They were a moderating influence on an already radicalized mind.

      1. Uh, wasn’t Luke asking his uncle for permission to go to the Imperial Academy to become a pilot like his dad?

        1. “Listen, I can’t get involved! I’ve got work to do! It’s not that I like the Empire, I hate it, but there’s nothing I can do about it right now. It’s such a long way from here.” – Luke to Obi-wan.

          1. As for his dialog with Owen, I’d have to watch it again, since no one seems to quote that section on sites I can reach from work. But he was definately not seeking to enlist.

        2. Yes. Seems like someone needs to re-watch Episode 4.

          1. If he was seeking to sign up with Imperial forces, then the character is internally inconsistant as written in the time from introduction until the discovery of dead aunt and uncle.

            1. One theory I’ve seen among fanboys is that he wanted to go the Imperial academy to learn how to fly/ fight (although he’s already been known to “bullseye wamprats in his T-16”) and then desert and join the rebellion. Seems like a stupid plan to me. Or maybe “the academy” he refers to is something else entirely. They never really say, and it becomes a throwaway line. really just meant to show that he was “stuck” on Tatooine and dreamed of something bigger. Maybe he really just wanted to go to the Star Wars equivalent of college?

                1. …in a deleted scene

                  If you’re going to allow deleted scenes, next you’ll be allowing previous iterations of the script too. (Though letting storm troopers have lightsabers might not have been a bad thing)

                2. that scene is HORRIBLE

                  good cut.

                3. The empire was already NATIONALIZING COMMERCE in the core systems??
                  The rebellion makes even more sense now!

            2. I assumed that Academy is not for military only, and that he wanted to be a freighter pilot, like his father (Owen version). To a guy who grew up in middle of nowhere, hauling cargo all over the galaxy must sound pretty good.

              Which would have been interesting thing to see if Empire didn’t get involved – Luke running from home and hitching as an apprentice crew member with Han Solo.

          2. He wanted to go to the academy because there was no alternative to learn how to fly and fight. Han Solo did the same thing, and was a highly decorated recruit before becoming a smuggler and, eventually, a rebel. Of course, that’s all non-canon now.

        3. It wasn’t necessarily the Imperial academy. There could be other flight schools out there.

          1. It wasn’t necessarily the Imperial academy. There could be other unregulated and unlicensed flight schools out there.


      2. You do realize that the word ‘parents’ doesn’t necessarily refer to biological progenitors, and that Owen and Beru’s legal status over Luke was never established, right?

        1. Given that he always refered to them as “Uncle Owen” and “Aunt Beru”, it does not lend creedence to them being dubbed parents instead of guardians. Also, do you think a backwater like that really keeps records or cares about their legal status?

          1. Owen and Beru raised him and provided for him and educated him. If they’re not his parents, who are?

        2. Owen Lars was Anakin Skywalker’s step brother. Though that was a hell of chance to take for Kenobi to hide Luke with his father’s actual relatives.

          1. I don’t think Anakin came around much after becoming Vader.

            1. You know, everyone assumes that. But since Vader clearly had a soft spot for Luke, maybe he visited every now and again on the sly. Thinking that as long as the Emperor didn’t know about Luke, he could live a normal life. Until Kenobi got Luke involved.

            2. That is the way it turned out. It did not have to be and Obi Wan could not have known that.

              1. Obi-Wan initially assumed Vader was dead. By the time it was clear he was not, it was probably obvious he never wanted to return to Tatooine – after all, that was Anakin’s home planet, and Anakin died…

      3. Well it was dear old Dad that gave the orders that got Owen and Beru killed.

        I wonder if Vader promoted or force choked the stormtroopers who killed his stepbrother and sister-in-law?

        1. I think it was a case of “he didn’t care either way”. They were so tangentially connected that it’s unlikely to be any different from any other civilian loose end.

          1. Maybe, but I am imagining some poor low ranking stormtrooper officer’s bowels turning to water when Vader says “Do you know who my only living family were?”

            1. I think it’s more liekly they would have been offed for failing to recapture the droids. ie, not accomplishing the task set before them.

              1. Maybe, but I think my scenario is more amusing.

            2. What about your daughter, my lord?

              1. “You have a…a sister!

                Oka-ay, so I tortured my little girl…”

    4. The key question, according to the FBI (or possibly the IBI – Intergalactic Bureau Inv.), is when exactly was he radicalized? Was it 21 months ago or 27 months ago? Inquiring minds want to know. This is the key apparently to ending terrorism as we know it.

  2. Luke, you son of a bitch.

  3. Sensible light saber laws would have prevented so many death star deaths.

    1. You outlaw lightsabers, and terrorists will just build their own.

  4. Star Wars 1-3 is terrible and you should not acknowledge it’s existence. 4-6 are the only ones that matter.

    I enjoy watching RedLetterMedia’s “Mr. Plinkett” reviews of Star Wars 1-3 far more than I would ever enjoy watching them again

    1. 2 and 3 are bad films with somewhat reasonable plot lines.

      1 is just…just…ugh.

      And that is why the Red Letter Media takedown on 1 is so good. Not so much the other 2.

      1. What? Not enough dead hooker disposal tips for ya?

      2. So much of the TPM takedown is just nitpicks. The other two are more substantive.

        1. Darth&Droids; has done a great job of making TPM make sense. Their logic is the only reason that movie works.

        2. I disagree; the TPM review started out by talking about what makes a good story and a good movie. He talked about the importance of the “normal guy character” in a fantasy movie, and the character’s role in leading the audience through the weird elements of the movie’s world. He demonstrated the philosophy of “show, don’t tell” by comparing the opening of Star Wars and TPM.

          1. And then there are 30 minutes of nitpicking about the Jedi’s actions on the ship and getting down to the planet. It’s still insightful and ends very well, but a big chunk of it falls into rote “cinema sins” territory.

      3. Episode 2 is the biggest turn in the franchise. 3 was OK, 1 sucked except for the lightsaber battle at the end. Ray Park manages to be badass enough as Darth Maul to raise it to mediocrity.

        BTW, has anyone else here ever seen The Phantom Edit? It’s quite good, and really goes to show what competent editing can do. There’s a popular fan theory that one of the reasons why Ep. 4 & 5 are so much better than 6 or any of the prequels has more to do with them being edited by Lucas’ ex-wife. After seeing The Phantom Edit, I think there may be something to that theory.

        1. *biggest turd…*

        2. BTW, has anyone else here ever seen The Phantom Edit? It’s quite good, and really goes to show what competent editing can do.

          And the Phantom Editor’s commentaries on his edits (he also edited Episode II) are fantastic.

    2. There were no episodes 1, 2 or 3. Period.

      1. They were all basically just special effects porn. Some of the individual battle scenes were decent but the plot lines were incoherent. Like a John Woo movie.

    3. I have it on good authority that film schools use the Plinkett reviews as part of the curriculum.

  5. Hmm…Yoda also said that a Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

    He also notes that wars does not make one great.

    1. Or ‘not make great do wars’, right?

  6. You shut your whore mouth!

    (I only read article titles)

    1. I thought you wrote: “I only read article titties”.

  7. If we are going to deal adequately with the problems life is throwing our way we must all be Jeddi. White/Light School

  8. Sorry, fail. Luke became an insurgent, not a terrorist. Luke didn’t massacre a room full of children or blow up a planet, Darth Vader did. Luke fought occupying armies.

    1. Just because the empire breaks a few eggs making it’s wonderful omelette does not give people the right to ask questions or resist.

    2. Luke did kill all the janitors on the Death Star who were probably contract workers just trying to provide for their families.

      1. And the resulting strike by the Interstellar Force Field and Exhaust Port Maintenance Union held up the second Death Star.

      2. Clerks wankery aside, I assumed that all the shit jobs on Death Star were performed by droids.

        Likewise construction workers on second Death star. Easier to maintain secret, cheaper, more efficient. What’s not to like?

      3. Imperial Minumum Wage ensured all janitorial services on the Death Star were automated.

        I maintain that one cannot “kill” a droid.

    3. Actually, it was probably Grand Moff Tarkin who blew up the planet. Just picking a nit.

    4. Tarkin view up a planet. Vader stood by watching with an air of being above it all.

      1. You could draw the same parallel with drone strikes and the white house.

  9. Did the force prevent alt-text?

    1. *waves hand*

      You don’t need to see my alt-text.

  10. The prequels surely did suck dick. But, from a non-entertainment point of view, they formed a very interesting study of the growth of power.

    They continually showed how warfare feeds the state. They showed how those in power pitted group against group in a race to gain resources, influence, and control at the expense of others. They showed the corruptive nature of government. They showed what happens when people misplace their trust with those in power.

    However, given all that, let us still join in prayer: JJ, Savior of Star Wars, forgive the sins of George Lucas, and restore the health of Star Wars, and please give us hot chicks in metal bikinis. Amen.

    1. As bad and muddled as the prequels are, there are plenty of interesting ideas buried in it. Lucas was clearly trying to comment on the fragility of a republic, the corrupting influence of bureaucracy, the costs of war and how the powerful can use war for their own ends, etc.

      1. I’m going with my son to the midnight premier of The Force Awakens. He didn’t know the cannon of the six other films, so we watched them in order 1-6.

        Watching episodes 1-3 was just an exhausting slog for me. Yes, those ideas you and I mention are central, and interesting, but they are embedded in a thing with no soul, no character development, terrible story, and numbingly sterile special effects and settings. So sad.

        1. In the in the other six film the cannon are called turbo lasers, the Rebels ion cannon on Both.

          1. There is a difference between an ion cannon and a turbo laser

            Turbo lasers are an energy weapon that caused damage by immense heat.

            An ion canon fired ionized particles and disabled electronics much like an EMP would.

          2. Canon! Shit, I can’t even blame that on autocorrect.

      2. “comment on the fragility of a republic, the corrupting influence of bureaucracy, the costs of war and how the powerful can use war for their own ends”

        The problem was that his iconic heroes the Jedi were worse than all others. They basically went around enforcing order on the Universe. They interjected themselves into trade disputes, joined up with the Republic army to put down “bad” guys and trained kids from birth to be fanatics.

        It is clear that Lucas had a fetish for Benevolent Dictators aka Top Men. Emperor Palpatine wasn’t bad because he amassed unaccountable power- after all, the Republic was a clusterfuck when he came into power. No, Palpatine was just a bad guy. It is clear (through glorification of the unaccountable and powerful Jedi) that Lucas felt the right Top Man would have been preferable to Palpatine or the Republic.

        1. perhaps the Jedi are an analogy for the USA and the republic is the EU. USA at the end of the day arbitrates however it sees fit, seeing itself to get into most disputes and have the muscle to back it up.
          The EU conversely has little army and bicker among themselves whilst getting nothing done. The periphery countries in both scenarios are getting the short end of the stick.

    2. Disney does not like chicks in metal bikinis, seashell bikinis are fine though.

    3. I just saw Mocking Jay pt 2. It was actually quite good and is relevant to your comment. the end gave me more hope for the series not being a waste of time. However, as with most stores like this, the GLARING strategic and tactical idiocy drives me to drink. CMON, take a course in military history for fucks sake.

      1. I really like the Hunger Games books and movies, in spite of their flaws. I haven’t seen Mocking Jay pt2, but I’m really curious if it will end in such a dark way as the book did.

  11. All these years I thought Yoda’s training was about Luke controlling the Force not obedience and a loss of identity.

  12. The Jedi philosophy is bad and cultish. It makes perfect sense that Jedi go over to the dark side when familial and romantic love is banned and brainwashing strangers to live what you consider a good life is A-Okay on the light side. If it weren’t for the fact that the dark side apparently drives you giggling insane were you start enjoying and applauding cruelty for cruelty’s sake, I’d say the light side was actually the bad guys. As the dark side actually does do that to you, the light side is an unfortunate necessity and not evil. I’d still like to see experimentation to see if a third path could be forged.

    1. I was going to make a similar point. Sure the Sith were evil. But, that doesn’t mean the Jedi were good.

      All you need to know about the Jedi is that Obiwan lied to Luke about his father’s death in a scheme to get him to murder his own father.

      That is not the act of a good guy.

      1. You know, from a certain point if view…

      2. In the KOTOR games, there’s definitely a question about whether the Jedi, by regularly turning, weren’t ultimately a bigger threat than help to the galaxy.

        1. But, I’m not even talking turning. There’s no suggestion that Obiwan had turned against the Jedi Code. But, he was willing to deceive a young kid into murdering his father.

          That’s just sick.

          1. “My name is Luke Skywalker”
            “I knew your father. He was a great pilot….Oh yeah I also saved him from slavery, made him my padawan, cut off his legs and left him for dead when he turned to the Dark Side and killed a bunch of kids. I think he might be Darth Vader Lord of the Sith.”

            1. As opposed to the actual story line where he tells Skywalker that the guy he knew was his father betrayed and murdered his father. Oh, but, it’s okay, I’m going to teach you how to how to be a warrior. Is there anything there that isn’t setting up the kid to murder his dad?

    2. So you want to bring balance to the gorce?

      1. Balance is like inequality, it is a poor description of both the problem and the solution. If all the Jedi converted to my theoretical third path, balance would decrease, but the situation would get better.

      2. We outnumber our nemesis organization by 51st least hundreds to one. Bringing balance to that situation is a fantastic idea!

        1. * at least

          Stupid autocorrect.

      1. Dammit, too slow.

      2. Jolee Bindo. He’d and that time period could make some good storytelling.

        1. He was my favorite Jedi. That’s why I equipped him with the dope purple lightsaber.

          1. He’s a great character.

    3. I’d still like to see experimentation to see if a third path could be forged.

      Gray Jedi.

    4. So…you are saying the Jedi = Gop and the Sith = Dem. Got it. Libertarian = Han Solo. Progressive = droid.

    5. I wish Lucas stuck with his original interpretation that there is no ‘light’ side. Force is natural energy, and being ‘in balance’ means it flows unobstructed, though you might dip into it for defense and whatnot. ‘Dark’ side is when you start overdoing it, throwing things out of whack, leading ultimately not only to your downfall but to misery around you.

      And, while not a fan of prequels, it looked like Jedi Council started with semi-reasonable approach (based on meditation and abandonment of earthly desire) and, over time, calcified it so that ritual became more important than reasons for it. Hence Palpatine ultimately setting them up for the fall (which should have been better presented but hey).

      Also, I can’t hate Ep 2 and 3 anymore because Clone Wars cartoon series ended up not only being good, but making both better in retrospect.

      1. I haven’t seen the Rebels series. Did Ahsoka Tano go Grey?

        1. No clue – until it comes to Netflix I can’t be arsed to look for it.

    6. Rand Al Thor, the third way.

      I’d vote for him.

    7. Rand Al Thor, the third way.

      I’d vote for him.

  13. On a good day I can feel the Force. It corresponds (in part) to the Kath. Kundilini.

  14. I love the Jar Jar as puppet master theory

    1. I was derisive of the concept when I first heard it but the horrifying part was that guy on reddit made such a compelling case I think I am now convinced. seriously.

      The ONLY thing that does not compute is that Lucas is not that smart. Cause for it to be true it would mean he had Star Wars completely ghost written.

    2. Doesn’t Jar Jar seem like CGI blackface?

  15. At least the real Nazis were never stupid enough to put scopes on pistols* **.

    (* I mean, there are legitimate cases for them, like pistol hunting seasons.

    But general issue? Madness.)

    (** I know, Han Solo. But it was a stupid idea when Lucas came up with it, too, and note Han never actually seems to use that scope, either.)

    1. You don’t use a red dot?

  16. Luke wasn’t a terrorist, he was a member of organized military force that followed the rules of war more strictly than the Empire did. They wore uniforms and only attacked military targets. At worst they would sometimes use subterfuge and infiltration to achieve their goals but still not terrorism.

    Of course we only get a glimpse of how the Alliance fights in the original trilogy, but the racial diversity of the organization suggests they had broad support compared to the anthrocentric Imperial bureaucracy.

    1. There is no evidence of diversity in the alliance, until ROTJ.

  17. “Obi Wan…is practically salivating when he stumbles upon Luke, knowing he’s found a prime candidate for radicalization.”

    When he stumbles on Luke, he realizes it’s the son of his former apprentice Anakin “Darth Vader” Skywalker.

    Wait, the analysis is supposed to be tongue in cheek, my bad.

    1. Oops, spoiler alert.


    Trying to equivocate a story from 1974 with 2014, leftist, propoganda is akin to comparing Donald trump to Hitler.

    Sorry, Reason…an editorial house cleaning is in order.

  19. “Let go your conscious self” and watch another brainless Star Wars movie.

  20. From a sapientistic point of view, both sides are exploiting mass-produced sapient (or potentially sapient) beings.

    One the one hand, you have an army of clones derived from an inarguably sapient being who, unless they were specifically engineered not to be (and why would you do that?), are sapient themselves. They are used as disposable fodder against the other side, an army of equally disposable droids, which we have seen are capable of forming independent thoughts and personalities.

    Again, where are the good guys?

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