Nick Gillespie Talks Smack About Joe Biden & Paul Ryan…

On HuffPost Live, no holds are barred and no quarter is given. And I really let it rip regarding how lucky we are Biden isn't running.

I just appeared on HuffPost Live to discuss Joe Biden's announcement that he won't be running for president and Paul Ryan's announcement that he might be running for House speaker.

Moderating the discussion is Caroline Modarressy-Tehrani. I'm joined by Democratic strategist Nomiki Konst, Republican strategist Brian Morgenstern, and Washington Post Politics Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand.

It's a fun, lively, and foul-mouthed conversation and one of the last moments we'll have to kick Joe Biden around (who very much deserves it).

 Related: Reason TV's Joe Biden's Non-Campaign Ad

Comments

[wareagle]

how cute. A circle jerk about a guy NOT running.

[AlmightyJB]

A courageous stance

[Paul.]

Caroline Modarressy-Tehrani

Did anyone check this terrorist's immigration status?

[Aloysious]

1. No jacket? For shame.

2. The fake ad is hilarious.

[MJGreen - Docile Citizen]

Yeah, the ad is legit. Good work, Bragg.

[Paul.]

Nomika Konst hasn't mentioned a single reason WHY Biden would be a great candidate other than he's been in the senate for a long time, he's got the Obama legacy with him and he's "viable".

Nick gave specific legislation this guy was behind or instrumental in passing and this woman (presumable a millennial Democrat) has ZERO problem with any of it.

What the fuck is it with this politics-as-sports shit?

[wareagle]

Biden's a D. What other reason could she need?

[Episiarch]

Politics is sports, essentially. We don't "need" 95% of what the government does or the people it employs. But we have them anyway, and they need to pretend they care about stuff and have positions other than "increase my own power".

[Knarf Yenrab!]

The past generation has seen Obama elected twice, W elected twice, and very nearly an Algore presidency.

At this point you have to forgive people for thinking that the American people would elect any given moron who received party/network support.

[Paul.]

Oh, great, she finally mentions something, and it's fucking CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM, an expressly anti-first amendment, unconstitutional piece of legislation.

[Paul.]

*looks around*

When did youth become so conservative?

[Episiarch]

Get off their lawn, Paul!

[Agile Cyborg]

Gillespie should wear a goddamn super black cock strap-on and fuck Biden senseless with it. Not that fucking Biden senseless is hard because the fucking establishment grist gromp isn't striking in any way but Gillespie gets to fuck a future hobo up the ass with a cock far larger than his own and super black at that.

This isn't to say that I don't think Gillespie has an 8 inch cock or anything. But it isn't black and slinky.

[Winston]

Too Coherent to be Agile Cyborg.

[AlmightyJB]

This is why I love you AC

[GILMORE?]

"no holds are barred and no quarter is given. And I really let it rip"

I see

[Winston]

Jeremy Corbyn's speech writer has a sad.

[Rockabilly]

Democratic strategist Nomiki Konst is a f*cking moron.
Good riddance Joe f*cking moron Biden

[Episiarch]

Don't leave us Uncle Joe! Who will we laugh at now? Besides all the other candidates, that is!

Joe really needs a bad sitcom to star in, something like "Shit My Creepy Uncle Says" or "Two and Half Politicians" starring Joe, Trump, and the half man can be the paralyzed guy Joe once told to stand up.

[Old Man With Candy]

Love That Joe. A delightful family comedy about a widower and his dying son. In the pilot, the son urges Joe to go for a promotion. Hijinx ensue.

[Episiarch]

Joe's Anatomy: Joe moves to Seattle to become a hospital administrator and in his spare time he flashes women. Usually very young women.

Oh wait, that would be your show, wouldn't it. My bad.

[Old Man With Candy]

"Show." ISWYDT.

[Paul.]

I picture Uncle Joe flashing cougars.

[Episiarch]

That has not been the existing pattern.

[Old Man With Candy]

I hate it when people steal my material.

[Old Man With Candy]

"Hey, Joe!" In this week's episode, Joe scares the neighbors when he fires a shotgun off the back deck. The cops show up and ask, "Where you goin' with that gun in your hand?"

The Hendrix soundtrack gives a warm sense of nostalgia.

[Old Man With Candy]

"The Joe Project." After the sudden end of his marriage, Joe gets hair implants and startlingly white caps for his teeth.

[Episiarch]

"It's Always Sunny in Delaware". Joe plays the Frank role. And the Charlie role.

[Old Man With Candy]

"Biden." An ensemble comedy about nothing.

[Episiarch]

"You're the Worst". Nicole would co-star. Their chemistry would just crackle!

[Warty]

Don't Trust the Joe in Apartment 23. Joe Biden has wacky adventures, manipulates and has sex with lots of men, and shows lots of skin. So, basically, real life.

[Episiarch]

"Veep". Joe stars as a bumbling, incompetent vice president who doesn't even know what's going on and makes continual gaffes. It would be a stretch for him, but I think he has the range.

[Paul.]

I imagine him coming past his admin. assistant every morning asking if the president called...

[Paul.]

"Do you masturbate in public, Joe? No, because you have self-control!"

... oh wait, this is "Veep" with Joe Biden starring. Never mind. Scratch that line.

[Jerryskids]

Joe Biden stars in Dork and Mindy as a goofy guy from some other planet who hilariously misunderstands Earth customs until you wish he was dead. Mindy, played by Bea Arthur, is charged with teaching him how to act human and stay out of trouble and with cleaning up the messes made by Dork when he fails to act human and stay out of trouble.

In Episode One, Joe welcomes trick-or-treating children into the house under the mistaken belief that they are hungry and homeless Syrian refugees. A police SWAT team is summoned by a parent alarmed by the creepy old man dragging their children into his house and insisting they be given a bath, a change of clothing and a soothing back masssage. Dork manages to frighten off the SWAT team by firing a shotgun into the air whereupon Mindy takes the opportunity to return the children to their parents along with a lecture about sensible shoes.

In Episode Two, the writers learn that Bea Arthur is in fact dead and replace her character with Abe Vigoda.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

Mindy, played by Bea Arthur, is charged with teaching him how to act human

Talk about a miscasting.

[Paul.]

Whoa, wait, why is Ryan spending more time with family putting greater pressure on Ryan's wife? It might be putting more pressure on Ryan's nanny, giving Ryan's wife more time to shop. That's a huge assumption.

[Paul.]

*not spending*

Sorry.

[Paul.]

Get the money out of politics!

The GOP is often considered the party of business ? but it looks like the nation's CEOs may not agree.

Hillary Clinton has received more donations from CEOs than any Republican candidate so far this year, according to a Big Crunch analysis of the last complete batch of individual Federal Election Commission records.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/20.....o-gop.html

[MikeP]

Mark Fahey
Data Journalist

You would think a "Data Journalist" would realize that this is a pretty bogus conclusion.

The Democrats have exactly one establishment candidate vying for establishment CEO support while the Republicans have closer to eight.

[Hyperion]

Hillary Clinton has received more donations from CEOs than any Republican

Party of cronyism.

[Paul.]

"Cocktail chatter with @joezepps"

Which Reason writers will be joining that discussion?

[Notorious UGCC]

All of them?

[AlmightyJB]

What's totally sad is that I'm left wondering if Biden still wouldn't be the best dnc candidate.

[Hyperion]

He would be because what is left? An old hag that no one can stand and and old socialist. The Dems have seen better days.

[AlmightyJB]

Exactly. He's obviously horrendous but compared to Bernie and Hillary he almost, almost seems not totally insane. Just crazy.

[Tejicano]

It's almost like they are challenging the GOP to come up with someone worse. What takes all the suspense out of it is knowing that the GOP has an infinite ability to do just that.

[Hyperion]

Hillary threatened to turn uncle Joe into a toad and stew his bones and some eye of newt for porridge in her witches cauldron.

[Caress of Woodchipper]

Is this the best the Mafia can do? The Deliverator wouldn't be caught dead in this. No giant contact patches on the tires, no nuclear fire to scare the crap out of people from the burbclaves.

Uncle Enzo should be pissed.

[AlmightyJB]

Only an asshole would play FUCKING Toto at a bar.

[AlmightyJB]

Working Man. That's better.

[AlmightyJB]

I'n not really sure If Saturday Night Special is anti gun. I guess it is. It's still a good jam.

[AlmightyJB]

All my friends know the low rider

[Caress of Woodchipper]

Like... Rush?

[AlmightyJB]

I can't say I love as ll their shit but that's a good tune.

[AlmightyJB]

Space Lord Mother Fucker Huh.

[AlmightyJB]

+Danzig

[AlmightyJB]

But I'm on the outside
And I'm looking in
I can see through you
See your true colors
'Cause inside you're ugly
You're ugly like me
I can see through you
See to the real you

[AlmightyJB]

I'm the Man in the Box

[AlmightyJB]

Yeah, you know that you're headed for a lot of trouble.
If you take your whiskey home.

[AlmightyJB]

California, I'm fine
Somebody check my brain

[AlmightyJB]

No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgment, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings

[Caress of Woodchipper]

what bar plays Sabbath?

[AlmightyJB]

I play Sabbath on the jukebox all the time although tonight it happened to be what I was listening to on the radio on the way home from the bar which was awesome.

[Caress of Woodchipper]

Pure Michigan: Torch Lake sandbar party urine didn't reach hazardous levels. Torch Lake is where Michael Moore used to live, apparently his old house was for sale in August.

It's a Pee!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

People have little appreciation for volumes.

[Winston]

Looks like Portugal might go full retard with the Socialists forming an anti-Euro, Anti-Austerity coalitions with the Communists and the Left Bloc.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fin.....cency.html

The Communist leader, Jeronimo de Sousa, has called for a "dissolution of monetary union" for the good of everybody before it does any more damage to the productive base of the European economy.

His party is demanding a 50pc write-off of Portugal's public debt and a 75pc cut in interest payments, and aims to tear up the EU's Lisbon Treaty and the Fiscal Compact. It wants to nationalize the banks, reverse the privatisation of the transport system, energy, and telephones, and take over the "commanding heights of the economy".

At least they support weed, immigrants and ass-sex, right?

[Winston]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Bloc

The Left Bloc (B.E.) was formed in March 1999 by the merger of the People's Democratic Union (Uni?o Democr?tica Popular, UDP, communist), Revolutionary Socialist Party (Partido Socialista Revolucion?rio, PSR [ex-LCI], Trotskyist), and Politics XXI (Pol?tica XXI, PXXI, socialist).

[PapayaSF]

Idiots. But migrants are a good idea, for them. Instead of screwing up halfway decent countries, Muslim migrants can go screw up a socialist one.

[Winston]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fin.....oment.html

"[It is] as if we were overthrowing the remainder of the Berlin wall", said leader PS Antonio Costa

[Caress of Woodchipper]

he doesn't mean that in a good way, does he?

[Winston]

I get a real whiff of One-nation conservatism from the Torygraph.

[Agile Cyborg]

I FUCKIN hate it when my dog ate fingers cant type motherfucking shit.

[Agile Cyborg]

I alway slam my bottles on the top of this shit on pretend top of the world shit and its just fucking ice agile. FUCKING GODDAMN ICE agile. IT IS SNOT THE FUCKING TOP OF THE WORLD AGILE.

fuck you, bitch weird ass self crump dimple cramp frink brunk bo slop slap dinga woky ...
Fuck superman.

[Quincy.]

I, too, hate superhero movies.

[Agile Cyborg]

but I love q

[Agile Cyborg]

I ate my brains and watched some sweet asians empty their cocks into my skull. and 45 tiny laser squirrels flying glass bowls with little fucking fires pimping out the bots and 3 niggas of various sexes into race cheese and i ate them all on a sandwich.

[Agile Cyborg]

little lines on your forehead means you are melting and then your bitchass shit looks down and your goddamn nipples disapear along with your balls....
this means that Nasa will figure that crap out next Tuesday because some drunk ass earth bound bored shit fucking astronaut like to play games with thread bitches.\\

I think flowers are tunnels that melt humans. prob why we buy that crap for our pussies.

[Caress of Woodchipper]

How the fuck is it only Wednesday?

[AlmightyJB]

Fucking seriously

[Agile Cyborg]

if you get funky ya'll
i posted 12 thousand letters and agile realized that his asshole might be too fucked to be onlongo...

[Agile Cyborg]

if you get funky ya'll
i posted 12 thousand letters and agile realized that his asshole might be too fucked to be onlongo...

[AlmightyJB]

You're the King of Diamond's dude.

[Agile Cyborg]

Fucking rabbit number 9 will bae called AlmiJB... rabbits will own space, my lovely man.

[Agile Cyborg]

so I decided because my fucking face is too fucked up for this shit I should just eat lasers and rockets and angel wings and god dicks.

so here it goes all that shit is being popped in my throats punk ass dwibble dwang dwert blat fucking slinch slanch....

like i fucjiking am trying to loft off earth and shit but fingers cant make spaceships unless you take tons of drugs and carrots and gravy like me, bros. I see space bikinis all over this shit but my space rocket is a fleet of lovely blondes bending over space...with their tits massaging continents and ....
and white sweet rabbits.

[Rich]

dwibble dwang dwert

"Comma comma down dooby do down down" pales in comparison.

Good Evening, A C!

[Agile Cyborg]

rich is one of these gray skies wandering under the lonely flutes and crashing rockets...
perhaps, but not likely... cuz rich is a pile of motherfucking sweets attacked by syrup demons...

[Agile Cyborg]

Boots are gold bottles.

[Agile Cyborg]

I think dirt is a microscope of fucking awesome shit. cow shit. around here. cuz people put cow poop into the dirt all of you eat on your goddam lettuce and cherubs.

I like cherubs roasted over a light basting of bud and a slight crinkle over Hickory...
I love to eat angel cherubs.

I like cherub balls becuase they burst like a micro grape in my head, man.

[Agile Cyborg]

I think dirt is a microscope of fucking awesome shit. cow shit. around here. cuz people put cow poop into the dirt all of you eat on your goddam lettuce and cherubs.

I like cherubs roasted over a light basting of bud and a slight crinkle over Hickory...
I love to eat angel cherubs.

I like cherub balls becuase they burst like a micro grape in my head, man.

[Agile Cyborg]

i love millions of expressions on the faces of my lovers on this silly moon and because of this shit I will make huge truck eat my asshole and buy loving winged burgers for my boys....

so my arms are punching into a pyramid. man

[Agile Cyborg]

Lines twist and leap
and the turning of a head and the look down
in the falling storms on the rockets we love on, bro....
we are traveling time, man.... the sun is our chord and fucking thank jesus for the goddamn internet in space.

[Agile Cyborg]

tons of liquor in the face like piano liquor stars, bro. I eat stars and pianos and liquor, space gods

[Agile Cyborg]

tons of liquor in the face like piano liquor stars, bro. I eat stars and pianos and liquor, space gods

[Agile Cyborg]

tons of liquor in the face like piano liquor stars, bro. I eat stars and pianos and liquor, space gods

[Agile Cyborg]

tons of liquor in the face like piano liquor stars, bro. I eat stars and pianos and liquor, space gods

[Agile Cyborg]

tons of liquor in the face like piano liquor stars, bro. I eat stars and pianos and liquor, space gods

[Quincy.]

Story idea: the piano tuner of the asteroid belt.

[Caress of Woodchipper]

Played by Bruce Willis in the movie.

[Quincy.]

No, Matt Damon. He owns all space.

[Agile Cyborg]

so if i want to fuck an alien princess with sweet comet tits, reason. and my fucking hard cock wants to play with alien sweet tits if i press submit with my spaceship do I get to fuck alien pussies? C

[AlmightyJB]

I think you have to press a-b-up-up-left to fuck alien pussies.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

No, it's up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-B-A-Start

[Agile Cyborg]

yea so strange things happen on this reason mount... I can not even begin to discover the empty hole beneath our dying selves on the earth of fucking goddamn why the fuck and shit

[Rhywun]

Netanyahu said the Mufti of Jerusalem had "a central role in fomenting the Final Solution."

World goes apeshit.

[AlmightyJB]

I thought it was the joos fault?

[Calidissident]

Not without reason. The Mufti was definitely an odious anti-Semitic character but there is no evidence to suggest he convinced Hitler to plan or initiate the Holocaust.

[Rhywun]

Yeah, I have no special knowledge in this area. I just find it darkly amusing that he's being called a Holocaust-denier. Lolwut?

[GILMORE?]

Netanyahu seems to be making quotes as though there's some historical record

"The prime minister said that the mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini, had protested to Hitler that "they'll all come here," referring to Palestine.

" 'So what should I do with them?' " Mr. Netanyahu quoted Hitler as asking Mr. Husseini. "He said, 'Burn them.' ""

No one seems to be backing him up that any conversation like that took place.

tho there are some sources =

"A 1947 book "The Mufti of Jerusalem" and a newspaper report at the time said a former Hitler deputy had testified at the Nuremberg war crimes trials that Husseini had plotted with the Nazi leader to rid Europe of its Jews.

But the point several historians made was that Netanyahu was distorting timelines and drawing false conclusions.

The meeting between Husseini and Hitler in Berlin took place on Nov. 28, 1941. More than two years earlier, in January 1939, Hitler had addressed the Reichstag and talked clearly about his determination to exterminate the Jewish race."

That said, the people claiming he's "Blaming the Holocaust" on Palestinians seem to be equally retarded.

I think the world has been focused on ISIS/Syria/Iraq etc for so long we keep forgetting how ridiculously stupid Israeli-Palestinian conflict is.

[Gray Ghost]

But the point several historians made was that Netanyahu was distorting timelines and drawing false conclusions.

The meeting between Husseini and Hitler in Berlin took place on Nov. 28, 1941. More than two years earlier, in January 1939, Hitler had addressed the Reichstag and talked clearly about his determination to exterminate the Jewish race.

Dead thread, but that meeting does take place the day before Heydrich sends out invites to what would become the Wannsee Conference. I don't put much stock though in the wiki's statement within that link that,

"Somewhere around this time, [29 November 1941 to 9 December 1941] Hitler resolved that the Jews of Europe were to be exterminated immediately, rather than after the war, which now had no end in sight."

The proximity of Hitler's meeting with the Mufti and the decision to make the Holocaust more systematic and less ad hoc is interesting though.

[MJGreen - Docile Citizen]

This. Is. PERFECT.

And it's on-topic, too.

[AlmightyJB]

I have to say as much as I hate Joe Biden I have to somewhat respect his desire to massage women. He does seem.to make it kind of creepy though.

[Aloysious]

Spot on.

[Suellington]

Bummer. I wanted Uncle Joe in there for some laughs and he would also be the least horrible Dem (between Hilldog and the Bern). This makes the Hilldog smile and I don't like her to smile. Hilldog v Trump is not the libertarian moment.

[AlmightyJB]

I don't know. Is the corruptness of that scenario some sort of signal of the whole problem to people? Or are people just too stupid to get that?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Konst has a completely skewed metric of what makes a good senator, candidate and president.

[onebornfree]

Avast thar mateys and landlubbers!

I don't care which scam artist finally gets elected, or which doesn't, nor what the Fed does/does not do, nor whether, according to Mr "investment advisor with a claimed "near perfect prediction record" [insert advisor name of choice] , we are supposedly in for recession, depression, deflation, hyper inflation, a stock market boom, or whatever .

Why? Because whatever happens, my entirely self-managed, fully diversified, once per year adjusted long term savings plan will be safely protected and will , 9 times out of 10, grow at an average of 8% per annum over and above the prevailing inflation [or deflation], rate, year in, year out, as it has since 1986 when I started using it.

Savings plan results 1972-2011: http://onebornfreesfinancialsa.....gspot.com/

Regards,onebornfree

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