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Donald Trump Thinks Kelo-Style Eminent Domain is 'a wonderful thing'

In Fox News interview, GOP frontrunner once again shows contempt for individual rights

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Tonight Donald Trump was asked by Fox News anchor Bret Baier, "What do you think of eminent domain?" Here was the GOP frontrunner's answer:

I think eminent domain is wonderful, if you're building a highway, and you need to build, as an example, a highway, and you're going to be blocked by a holdout, or, in some cases, it's a holdout—just so you understand, nobody knows this better than I do, because I built a lot of buildings in Manhattan, and you'll have 12 sites and you'll get 11 and you'll have the one holdout and you end up building around them and everything else, okay? So, I know it better than anybody. I think eminent domain for massive projects, for instance, you're going to create thousands of jobs, and you have somebody that's in the way, and you pay that person far more—don't forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money, and you need a house in a certain location, because you're going to build this massive development that's going to employ thousands of people, or you're going to build a factory, that without this little house, you can't build the factory—I think eminent domain is fine.

Side note: Choosing punctuation for Trump transcriptions is truly a challenge. Anyway, the conversation didn't get any better.

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Baier: In 2005, you said you agree with the Kelo case in the U.S. Supreme Court 100 percent. And that basically upholds eminent domain, and—

Trump: If eminent domain—number one, a person has a house, and they end up getting much more than the house is ever worth. You know, eminent domain is not like you—they take yours…. [some Club for Growth insults redacted here]

So. If you have a road or highway, you gotta do it. If you have a factory where you have thousands of jobs, and you need eminent domain, it's called economic development.

Baier: Bernie Sanders, when the decision came out, he said, he spoke out against the Kelo case, he said, "The result of this decision will be that working families and poor people will see their property turned over to corporate interests and wealthy developers."

Trump: It's not right! It's not right. Look, they get, the money—you know the way they talk, people would say "Oh, it's turned over." It's turned over for four or five, six, 10 times sometimes what it's worth! People pay them a fortune. But sometimes you have people that want to hold out just for the—most of the time, I will say, I've done a lot of outparcels, I call them outparcels. Most of the time, they just want money, okay? It's very rarely that they say "I love my house. I love my house. It's the greatest thing ever." Because these people can go buy a house now that's five times bigger, in a better location. So eminent domain, when it comes to jobs, roads, the public good, I think it's a wonderful thing, I'll be honest with you. And remember, you're not taking property, you know, the way you asked the question, the way other people—you're paying a fortune for that property. Those people can move two blocks away into a much nicer house.

Baier: I know, but if they don't want to sell….

Trump: Well, look, I mean, if they don't want to sell, I feel—

Baier: But we can move on….

Trump: I think it's a great subject. It's a very interesting subject. I fully understand the conservative approach. But I don't think it was explained to most conservatives.

In Trump's beloved Kelo case, you may recall, the thing called "economic development" didn't actually lead to any, and the working-class homeowner really did love the house that was bulldozed by the government at the behest of a wealthy developer.

Trump's endorsement of the Supreme Court's 5-4 expansion of the constitutional phrase "public use" to include private development is not surprising, given his line of work and prior reliance on the goliath-vs.-David practice. And his assertion that conservatives (let alone libertarians, or progressives like Bernie Sanders) just need the subject "explained" better to them is not just condescending, it's ignorant: Kelo sparked a widespread public backlash, and its economic-development rationale has been massively unpopular for a decade. For good reason.

Since Trump also wants to end the 14th Amendment's birthright citizenship, and deport the American-born children of illegal immigrants, it's reasonable to conclude that individual rights just aren't his thing.

You can watch the interview here:

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  1. you have somebody that’s in the way, and you pay that person far more?don’t forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money

    Someone here predicted this would be Trump’s line on eminent domain.

    1. It’s turned over for four or five, six, 10 times sometimes what it’s worth! People pay them a fortune. …Because these people can go buy a house now that’s five times bigger, in a better location.

      Seriously. Damn.

      1. I don’t know why people are so upset about cops shooting their husbands. After they get the wrongful death settlement?in some case five, six, ten times what these peoples lives are worth?they can just go out and get a bigger, hotter husband.

        1. It’s called personal development.

        2. He’s like a cartoon villain from a Captain Planet episode. “My puppy killing business may look bad, but you throw enough money at people and they’ll become numb to it. It’s fine!”

        3. Hugh:
          http://www.latimes.com/food/da…..story.html

          Peruse, digest, and get back to me. We’re trying to pick a place near Reason’s HQ.

          1. Or, if you know of anywhere else…

          2. I won’t be attending but fuck that hot dog place. Grass fed heirloom hotdogs? Any good hot dog joint has been open for50-100 years and sources their product from someone of similar longevity.

            The ramen sounds good. The Hawaiian doesn’t sound overly pretentious. I didn’t read anymore because I don’t expect to be in SoCal anytime soon

            1. I had a tandoori hot dog tonight. My idea. I’m actually quite proud.

              1. I know it is in the Northernmost reaches of your geographic region but have you ever had this shit. I’ll have to use substitutes for the wood and the beans but it is an intriguingly exotic contrast to our local barbecue culture (lacking pig, its not barbecue at all but that is outside the scope of my inquiry).

                1. As a lover of Santa Maria style I’ll be the first to say that it isn’t smoking. It is slow roasting. And damn good.

                  1. Low direct heat in an open grill?

                2. I used to do tri-tip once a week. I have it down to a science.

                  On the coast, they use Red Baron rub. Up in the hills, it’s just salt, pepper, and garlic, which is sold pre-mixed from one of the best steak houses in that region.

                  I don’t have a wheel grill, but I’ve found a way to make it even better: Oak smoked, sous vide, and then grill seared.

                  I was really surprised to find out that they don’t sell tri-tip at every Costco. I thought it was a nationwide thing.

                  The leftovers are even better: Tri-tip ranchera. It’s the beef and salsa from the beans mixed together and served over toasted bread.

                  1. OK, I’m going to give it a try. Kroger always seems to have an ample supply of USDA Choice tri-tip. I gotta figure a good wood substitute. And a substitute for those damn beans.

                    1. The beans are just pinto beans with pico de gallo.

                    2. Well that’s easy enough. I kept seeing all this shit about magic pinquito beans. Good thing I didn’t trade a cow for a bag.

                    3. Interestingly, Costco Irvine is the only place I’ve ever seen that sells PRIME tri tip.

                    4. I’ve seen it blue tray it at the Costco in Hawthorne. Not regularly, but a few times. They also have prime top sirloin on occasion.

                      They regularly have prime ribeye, filet, and new york, but there’s no art in that.

                3. I thought maybe Santa Maria barbecue was from when Columbus ran out of supplies, & they had to sacrifice the big ship & everyone aboard.

          3. I mean, I’m always down for some ramen. But anywhere except for Father’s Office is fine. Fuck that hipster foodie gastropub bullshit.

            1. Anything that has broth goes well with beer. We’ll be in touch.

              1. Man, Playa, you’re selling to a tough crowd!
                I suggest:
                http://www.harrisranch.com/index2.php

                1. This is for after the Reason event in Culver City on Thursday from 5-7. Harris ranch would be… out of the question in this case.

                  Harris Ranch beef is good, but not great. I have a better supplier from the Imperial Valley.

                  1. “This is for after the Reason event in Culver City on Thursday from 5-7.”
                    Ooops…

        4. I can just hear Trump defending cops needlessly killing people’s dogs, too.

          “Now sure they — I mean cops — will shoot the dogs — and that’s number 1 not cool, unless the thing poops inside, of course — but what these people need to have explained to them, the ones who want to complain about dogs dying, is that they can then go out and buy themselves a much better dog. I mean a show dog, with papers and everything. Ivanka had some kind of Yorkshire or German Shepherd water hound or terrier or something, I don’t know and, when I had it appraised strictly for insurance purposes, that thing was worth seriously $1.2 million. That fur ball was in actuality the best dog the AKC had ever seen! It was such a damn shame when I pushed it, I mean it fell, right off our 65th floor balcony. But then that’s how I paid for the refitting of all the brass railings on the Trump Princess, which is one of my ships, for those who don’t know. So don’t tell me about how these cops shouldn’t be shooting your dog! I mean, are you a loser, or what?”

      2. That also sounds like bullshit. All courts require is for the government to pay the market value of the property, which is a shitty measure given that you have an unwilling seller.

      3. And What Trump says is not necessarily the case. Several year’s ago, when I still originated residential mortgages, one of my clients was purchasing a home with a down payment derived from the sale of her home under eminent domain laws. The state was buying the property and the agency they used to evaluate and execute the transfer was clearly trying to get the property at fire sale prices.

        The property was to be used as part of a highway extension through the city where I live. Near as I could tell, as a number of years had passed since the state budgeted for the purchase of the relevant properties, prices had appreciated and their funds were being spread thin. Of course the answer for them is to try and swindle the landowners.

        Although it wasn’t actually part of my job, I helped her navigate their valuation dispute process successfully and get market value. Definitely no double market value or more payout. I doubt that actually happens very often. I imagine that only works with people who made the right campaign donations.

        1. That’s perhaps why Trump is so confused. People who are politically connected can move ahead of development projects and buy up cheap property for resale at a nice profit. Those who aren’t just get bulldozed for less than actual market value.

          1. Exactly. Primarily due to a combination. Of lack of influence and knowledge in this area. Most people don’t know how to ascertain property values. I have learned to over the years. Partially because I love to ascertain things.

    2. Not to mention the jobs he created, great jobs, American jobs, building those hotels and developments.

      1. HUGE! It’s as huge as the tits on, uh, well…

  2. Jeb!’s still worse.

    1. Nah I gotta say on a scale of 1 being the absolute worst and 10 being “good” Jeb falls in the middle when it comes to Republican candidates.

      1. Trump
      2. Christie
      3. Rubio
      4. Carson
      5. Huckabee
      6. JEB!
      7. Kaisch
      8. Fiorina
      9. Cruz
      10. Paul

      1. I agree with your top two least worst then it goes off the fuckin’ rails. Kasich is almost worse than Jeb! Carson’s 3rd least worst. No matter what Trump blurts out he’s better than Kasich, Christie, Jeb! and Rubio.

        1. Yeah, I think Kasich is the worst of that group.

          Related: http://www.foxnews.com/politic…..-mandates/

          1. Picking Trump over Jeb!/Kasich/Christie/Rubio is somewhat like going with Iran or Assad or Putin over ISIS. There’s a greater evil that needs to be dealt with right now.

            1. I wouldn’t vote for any of those so…

      2. my list

        1. Trump, Christie, Rubio, Carson, Huckabee, JEB!, Kaisch, Fiorina, Cruz
        2
        3
        4
        5. Zod
        6. Paul
        7
        8. URKOBOLD
        9
        10. Corning

        1. Is yours on a reverse scale?

          1. same scale as NYer’s

            “on a scale of 1 being the absolute worst and 10 being “good””

            Nikki would get a 2 if she was running

            1. Of course, Sen. Sanders is about a negative nine, and Hillary! is somewhere in the negative 850 million range. I hate voting for the least evil alternative, but it’s necessary sometimes.

      3. Revision:

        1. Christie
        2. JEB!
        3. Huckabee
        4. Trump
        5. Rubio
        6. Kaisch
        7. Carson
        8. Fiorina
        9. Cruz
        10. Paul

        1. That being said, all of the rest are so bad that I’d put Paul as #1 best and the rest would be somewhere between a 20 and a fuck no.

        2. You didn’t catch Kaisch’s blindingly stupid arrogant comments the other day? My list is simnilar to yours except Kaisch dropped about 4 places.

          http://www.nationalreview.com/…..m-geraghty

  3. How much money has Trump made in his life from property stolen from its rightful owner? Of course he’s in favor of it.

    He’s really the worst.

    1. Damn him!

      1. Don’t listen to him Nikki. You’re way worse than Trump.

      2. It’s not that hard to get back your title. Get a really bad toupee, do that weird thing with your mouth, yell a lot, and steal a bunch of property from poor people. Then you’re right back to the top (bottom?) of the heap.

        1. Always assumed she had a bun

            1. Did I ever tell ya that this here manbun represents a symbol of my individuality, and my belief in personal freedom?

                1. *Sorry! The content provider has not given us the rights to play this video in your location.*

                  I never understood the point of that.

            2. You know a man’s dopey hairstyle is overplayed when multiple soccer players on the same team are wearing it. (There is nothing more frightening to them than not being a unique individual snowflake.) Yesterday it was the lumberjack beard clones – today it’s the man-bun clones.

              1. Men are such girls

  4. They declare the area blight and threaten to bulldoze unless you accept their offer. Why would a private developer negotiate against themselves when they have the leverage of the law to force you to accept their lowball?

    1. The private developer doesn’t get to make the blight call. The institution with a monopoly on deadly force does that.

      1. Which, in local politics, is rarely different from saying “the developer’s political subsidiary” has that power.

  5. “…If you have a factory where you have thousands of jobs, and you need eminent domain, it’s called economic development….”

    Actually, it’s spelled “theft”.

  6. Hmmm…I don’t hate Trump as much as most people here do. But still, this is disturbing. Private ownership is what makes the US great, but we haven’t had private ownership here since we enacted the un-Constitional property tax. Still, the Kelo decision should have been a rallying cry for those who cherish freedom, and private ownership. Perhaps most people don’t value freedom as I do. So, elect Trump as president. How can things get any worse?

    1. This is an issue where he truly deserves hate, and I never use that word lightly.

      1. You make a good case…

        1. except when it comes to Chipotle?

  7. Grow up, Matt. Malls and casinos and Trump Towers are making America Great. Only loser home owners would refuse a great price for their dinky home.

  8. Trump’s as bad on economics as any of the Democratic candidates.

    This election will be even worse than the last one.

    1. You say that every election.

      1. And it’s true!

        1. Stop saying it then. You’re single-handedly responsible for destroying the country.

          1. But you don’t wanna know what he’s doing with the other hand.

  9. Well, let’s see how many in the field besides Rand Paul attack him over this.

    Also, free advice to the eventual GOP nominee: if a debate moderator asks you what the worst SCOTUS decision in your life time was besides Roe, cite KELO.

    1. If it were Ron Paul running, he could name Wickard.

      1. Wickard is worse. Filburn couldn’t go buy a farm 5 times bigger, with better dirt, right near by and exceed the wheat quota.

    2. I’d say Marbury vs Madison.

      1. Granny’s old.

    1. I fear he is right.

    2. I can’t watch that at work. Can someone give a rundown?

      PS., drudge is a turd.

  10. So where else are Pharmacorp Campuses and stripmall nail salons going to be built? It’s like you people just hate progress!

  11. Meanwhile…

    Maybe it’s time to start using the words that the NRA has turned into unmentionables.

    Prohibition.

    Mass buyback.

    A gun-free society.

    Let’s say that one again: A gun-free society.

    Doesn’t it sound logical? Doesn’t it sound safe? Wouldn’t it make sense to learn from other developed nations, which believe that only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed ? and which as a result lose far, far fewer innocent people than die every year in the United States?

    Hmm, national prohibition of a product that millions of Americans enjoy. No, I don’t think that’s ever been tried before.

    1. The Black Market does have it’s benefits. Less restrictions on types of weapons you can buy.

    2. I’d feel a lot safer if people like that guy left the country.

    3. Doesn’t it sound logical?

      No.

      Doesn’t it sound safe?

      No.

      Wouldn’t it make sense to learn from other developed nations, which believe that only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed ? and which as a result lose far, far fewer innocent people than die every year in the United States?

      What would make sense, Mr. Hiatt, would be to hang you from the nearest lamppost and then gibbet your corpse in the commons as a warning to others.

      1. Ahhh….Once again, HM, your words are music to my ears eyes.

      2. They have fewer gun fatalities if you only ignore a few.. er… some decades of the last two centuries.

    4. Buyback?

      My guns are not for sale.

      1. Don Hillary is going to make you an offer you can’t refuse.

        1. And she’ll make it after she’s finished stroking that pussy playing with the cat.

          1. Don’t you mean “stroking her rooster”?

        2. I have a counter offer that her agents aren’t going to like.

    5. “Doesn’t it sound logical? Doesn’t it sound safe?”

      No it doesn’t.

      “Wouldn’t it make sense to learn from other developed nations, which believe that only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed…”

      No, it wouldn’t.

      ” …and which as a result lose far, far fewer innocent people than die every year in the United States?”

      Not true.

      Best argument against gun control: After the debate is over you still can’t have my guns. If you try to come take them I am going to shoot you. I don’t mean I am going to hole up in my house and fight with the police, I mean I am going to come find you and shoot YOU.

      1. only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed…far, far fewer innocent people

        Oh! You mean, like the ones US police shoot/kill!

        That is what you’re talking about, right, Mr. Hiatt?

        1. I think he means like England where murder rates and violent crime in general skyrocketed past the US’s rate in no time. And Australia. And…well, everywhere where guns were confiscated.

          Fred Hiatt is a liar, but then we knew that because of the position he advocates.

    6. “And yes, I understand how difficult it would be. This is a matter of changing the culture and norms of an entire society. It would take time.”

      I am pretty sure Eric Holder already has this covered.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nM0asnCXD0

      1. How charismatic. I’ll watch him again when I can’t sleep, which will likely be tonight.

    7. only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed

      Um a society where some people still have guns is by definition not a “gun-free” society.

      1. Not to mention that the criminals would still be armed with whatever kind of guns they want.

  12. Is this one going to be the overnight thread? I got shit to do today. Get with it Reason.

    1. Are the late articles just posted so they can refer to them tomorrow?

      I can’t imagine they get much traffic…

  13. Why does it matter anyway? Private land ownership is a myth. No one owns any land in the USA, it is all owned by governments. If you think not, try this simple experiment, those of you who can. You own a property completely paid off for years, no mortgage at all. Try not paying your taxes for a few years and tell me what happens. You RENT property from local governments, you DO NOT OWN SHIT.

    1. Private land ownership is a myth. No one owns any land in the USA, it is all owned by governments.

      Indeed, one of the justifications Jefferson used for the Revolution was the colonists held the land in allodial title; therefore there was no superior landlord who could claim rights on fruit of the land.

      hat we shall at this time also take notice of an error in the nature of our land holdings, which crept in at a very early period of our settlement. … America was not conquered by William the Norman, nor its lands surrendered to him, or any of his successors. Possessions there are undoubtedly of the allodial nature. Our ancestors, however, who migrated hither, were farmers, not lawyers. The fictitious principle that all lands belong originally to the king, they were early persuaded to believe real; and accordingly took grants of their own lands from the crown. … That in order to enforce the arbitrary measures before complained of, his majesty has from time to time sent among us large bodies of armed forces, not made up of the people here, nor raised by the authority of our laws

      1. The irony being that when the Republic was founded, they claimed ownership of all the land in the country…reducing all title to fee simple with the ultimate landlord being the state.

  14. I’d still vote for Trump over Almanian.

    1. You’d better be splainin yourself mister.

      1. He didn’t say for what.

  15. Extra, Exztra! Ross Perot replacement farts in Elevator! Read all about it in Reason, Slime, Newspeak, USA Turday, the NYT, the WSJ, the Utne Reader, Tikkun, Mother Jones, The Nation, the Houston Chronicle…
    The echo is getting worse.

    1. Reason needs a *like* button.

  16. Would you expect Donald Trump, a real estate developer, with a history of using eminent domain, and a reputation of ostensible honesty and “telling it like it is” to give any other answer to this question? I disagree strongly but almost any other answer from Trump would sound like a pandering lie.

    1. “…a reputation of ostensible honesty…”

      You don’t have nearly enough qualifiers, there.

      1. + more qualifiers

  17. I think the Donald is the real smoking gun proof that the typical GOP voter really is just as retarded as the typical Democrat voter.

    Here is a guy who comes out of nowhere. No one knows shit about his political viewpoints, and yet all he has to do is say ‘Build a wall, keep them Mexicans out! They’re all rapist and murderers anyway!’. And that’s all it takes for the GOP crowd to swoon ‘Oh, the Donald, he so great! I love the Donald!’. You stupid bunch of retards, go home look in the mirror and then take a cat o nine tails and flog yourself about the face and genitals for a few hours for being too stupid to vote and then apologize to monkeys for being their intellectual inferiors. Then kill yourself.

    1. being too stupid to vote

      ‘Bout time libertarians came out against universal suffrage.

      You Know Who Else didn’t want the dregs of society to vote?

        1. Nods coolly.

          1. *Shows up and starts party*

      1. I don’t want anyone to vote. Bring back sortition for legislative positions, at a minimum.

        1. I don’t want anyone to vote

          You Know Who Else…?

    2. Trump’s success proves Republican voters aren’t as dumb as Democrats. They’re not “taking one for the team” with “the most conservative candidate who can win” this time. They have an opportunity not just to stick it to the DemocRATS but the RINOs too. Those supporting Trump, Carson, Cruz, Paul and to a lesser extent, Fiorina are doing just that. I would have preferred they went with Rand but given his campaign performance it is no surprise they didn’t.

      Disruption is good, and unless the Establishment is playing Br’er Rabbit game with Trump (they’re not), disruption is what we’re gonna get.

      1. A picture of Trump’s toupee is in the dictionary next to the term “RINO.”

  18. “if you’re building a highway, and you need to build, as an example, a highway, and you’re going to be blocked by a holdout, or, in some cases, it’s a holdout?just so you understand, nobody knows this better than I do, because I built a lot of buildings in Manhattan, and you’ll have …the one holdout and you end up building around them and everything else, okay? So, I know it better than anybody. …. you have somebody that’s in the way, and you pay that person far more?don’t forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money….

    I’ve pointed out before how he talks in staccato repetition of “Key Words”, rarely making complete sentences. His “conclusions” rarely have any necessary connection to the preceding shotgun blast of statements… only by inference, or feeling.

    The M.O. stems from a sales’-guy’s patter… how he assures you – he *knows this stuff* – but is doing you a great service by “sparing you the details”.

    He jumps from a random collection of terms to what he hopes is the answer which most people like…. but then, sensing perhaps that this isn’t working… has no problem going, “Well, but you know there’s a lot more to this, which depends on all kinds of stuff… I’m really good at this., you know…”

    I’ve been at meetings where sales guys do this, and always been stunned that no one ever stopped them and said, “repeat that in a single, simple sentence”. It *works*

    1. “Is it a 6 or a V8?”
      “Yes, yes it is! It is wonderful! You’ll LOVE it! It’s TERRIFIC, why the wife and I just last week had a GREAT time!
      Let’s go for a ride!

      1. yeah. they may or may not answer the actual question, but they’ll definitely ensure that you get a full dose of *feels stuff* along with it. Its not about the information, its about MOVING THINGS FORWARD. The other party ends up “going along” half the time simply because they see that this is the path to get the guy to shut up and out of their lives.

        I think with good sales guys, its not always conscious or even tactically planned (despite the self-help books or the 7 habits or “how to get to YES” B.S. they tend to read)

        … its just that they know what works, and they naturally, instinctually revert to it all the time.

        1. That reminds me of a conversation I had with a recruiter a week or so ago. He was going on and on about how great the company was for this position, so I asked him if he could tell me the name which set him off on several excruciating minutes of bullshit about why he can’t tell me without actually answering the questions. To which I responded “So that’s a no, then?” and he said “uh, right”.

        2. “I think with good sales guys, its not always conscious or even tactically planned”

          I made very good money in corporate sales for many years using product quality/price presentations. *VERY* good money; you cannot scale any hourly or salaried income.
          So good that the field started attracting ‘sales professionals’.
          I have no gripes; Sevo did just fine before it was obvious it was time to do other things.

  19. Most of those who enter government, either as elected politicians or bureaucrats, do not start out to deliberately erode basic freedoms and property rights, but all too many in the political class act like children ? irresponsibly and thoughtlessly. STUPID fuckers that someone keeps voting for.

    1. Hey, I just copied and pasted your note about your grand kid! C’mon, let’s see the pics.

  20. Huh I checked the Reason login screen:


    Particpation in our comments section.
    Acccess to the digital edition if you are a Reason Digital subscriber.

    Spellcheck anyone?

  21. “don’t forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money”

    This is horseshit.

    They start by offering to pay you whatever you paid for it. We will reimburse you. That’s all it is.

    Why would Donald imagine that people who aren’t being given the opportunity to turn the offer down–are given top dollar market value for their property?

    That’s just idiotic.

    Donald knows damn well that’s a lie.

    When we’ve been threatened with having our land eminent domained in the past, they told us they wouldn’t pay one penny more than we paid for it–no matter what it was worth on the market.

    1. Worse than his flat-out lying about how eminent domain works is his economic ignorance in saying the victim is paid “more than the property is worth” when what something is worth is a subjective opinion and, if it is true that the price being paid is higher than the value of the property, why the hell would the price be paid? Is that how Donald does business, paying more for stuff than what it’s worth to him? I doubt it, however high a price you may pay you pay it because what you’re getting is worth even more than that.

  22. So I see Gillespie has published yet another “The Libertarian Moment is upon us!” article. Personally I get the feeling that while there are significant elements of society that are disenchanted with the status quo I’m not certain that the change they desire is very libertarian (see Trump and Sanders).

    Also I would be a lot less cynical about the “Libertarian Moment” if I found evidence that people stop believing that the Great Depression was caused by Hoover’s “do-nothing” attitude and solved by FDR’s New Deal. There can’t be much of a libertarian moment if people believe that libertarianism would destroy the economy.

    And tying in with that well the Guardian articles and comments on the Greek Crisis were pretty eye-opening to me. “Neo-liberalism” is literally genocidal they say as tax cuts, spending cuts, deregulation and privatization will destroy civilization. Thing is the basic idea is generally believed by most people. Until people stop thinking this way I will be more optimistic.

  23. So has anyone asked the Donald about bailouts? I bet he loves them, at least for his companies that is.

  24. So have Sheldon Richman, Roderick Long and Kevin Carson been invited by Corbyn to stand for Labour in 2020? His re-nationalize Railroads and energy companies platform ought to appeal to the left-libertarians.

    1. Welcome back, Winston. The cake’s right over there.

  25. Woody’s mom put this over in the free-trade thread, but I think it’s worthwhile here:

    Woodys mom|10.6.15 @ 11:26PM|#

    Citizens should be free to buy and sell goods and services, study and travel, and otherwise interact with peoples from other lands and places, unencumbered by the intrusions of government.
    Sounds nice anyway, I just hope for a better future for my grandson Silas Jett, just born tonight!

    1. Congratulations on the new family member!

    2. Congratulations to Woodys mom.

      I just found out I am about to be a grandfather myself. Finally. Dammit.

      1. The soldiers are finally swimming, eh?

        Oh, whoops. Grandfather.

  26. Market failure: when you won’t sell your shit to Trump for what he’s offering.

  27. I take it the Two Minutes Hate was inspired by Trump’s rebounding in the polls.

    Really, this could only be more fun if Trump dumped a bucket of water over Matt Welch’s head.

    1. So you’re a Trump supporter? Did you get lost on your way to stupid.com?

      1. Apparently it redirects to autism.com.

  28. eminent domain strikes me a being a lot like a scene in mobster movies where they rough someone up and to apologize, they sprinkle a bunch of money in their face, as if that makes it all better.

  29. “The point of demoralization is that the demoralized person, no matter how much information you give them, cannot draw a sensible conclusion. This way they are unable to defend themselves, their families, or their country.”

    Holy crap. I knew it was bad, but…Goddamn.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fp…..old-ahlert

      1. I don’t get it – why would the new British national anthem be sung to the tune of an American song??

        /product of American publik skoolz

    1. Well, ignore that “million” stat, since it has no basis in anything. Reading the link to the marginally more credible mirror, they’re looking at around four big cases with a couple thousand victims each. So, maybe ten thousand.

      But, you know, if it had been a hundred girls and Christian offenders, we’d probably hear about it for a while on American news. Ten thousand girls and immigrant Muslims rapists, and fucking crickets.

      As shitty as it’s going to be when fascists take over Europe (and they almost certainly will — I suspect, especially with the recent influx, Muslims will start enforcing their norms on Europeans, especially women and gays, well before they have the numbers to come out on top of that conflict — they’ll also teach Europeans that their governments will either tolerate political violence, or only tolerate it against their own peoples but not from them, either of which will boost fascists), the knowledge that regardless of what happens, the cynical leftists and cronyists that created the situation are dying either as godless degenerates at the hands of the people they brought in, or as traitors at the hands of their own people, is one small comfort.

  30. ahhh…. the “greater good” Trumps individual rights, beautiful. No problem, money is more valuable than sentiment, or integrity. This guy is indeed political material.

    My small burg has managed to pull eminent domain out like traffic tickets due to the lack of space for expansion. One thing I’ve noticed is that it’s the one issue which seems to find agreement within both party lines.

  31. It would be interesting to know the opinions of the rest of the candidates on the issue of eminent domain and the Kelo case, providing one could even get a straight answer out of any of them.

  32. Luckily, this cretin will never be president, so this is all theatre.

    1. Unfortunately some other cretin will be.

  33. So eminent domain, when it comes to jobs, roads, the public good, I think it’s a wonderful thing, I’ll be honest with you. And remember, you’re not taking property, you know, the way you asked the question, the way other people?you’re paying a fortune for that property. Those people can move two blocks away into a much nicer house.

    I love Trump because he says it like it is.

    You see, Theft is not really theft when you can do all sorts of wonderful things with the loot.

  34. He makes Joe Biden look like an articulate guy, not to mention clean, and bright and good looking.

  35. Google pay 97$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12k for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
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  36. Google pay 97$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12k for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
    This is wha- I do…… ?????? http://www.buzznews99.com

  37. Sold! I’m holding out for a candidate who respects individual rights! (This should free me up on election day…)

  38. converse chuck 70

    Trump will win the presidency if he gets the GOP nomination, but it’s harder to tell whether he’ll get that far. More Republicans dislike him than like him. I do agree with Adams on Trump’s persuasion skills, but I think his background in hypnotism causes him to put more stock into it then is supported by reality.

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