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Politics

How Ronald Reagan's Ghost Haunts the GOP

The Republican Party will never command the future unless it gives up its ridiculous nostalgia for its last great figure.

Nick Gillespie | 9.16.2015 12:01 PM

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So the second GOP candidates debate is taking place tonight at 6 P.M. ET for the JV and 8 P.M. ET for the varsity squad. Reason will be all over it, right here, with a live Twitter stream and constantly updated posts, so bookmark us.

The debate is being staged at Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California because the 21st-century Republican Party has an unkillable love affair with Dutch that is more indestructible than the one betwen Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenahl in Brokeback Mountain. Even before he packed up from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, GOP candidates at all levels were channeling Reagan's soul like over-caffeinated kids at a slumber party channeling ghosts with a Ouija Board.

For Republicans, Reagan is like Zardoz: A giant, god-like figure that descends periodically from the heavens and inspires fear, awe, rapture. Republicans must genuflect and bless themselves when invoking his name, image, fortitude, you name it. And they must do so in all circumstances.

It's easy enough to understand why: Despite the inevitable second-term scandals, Reagan overall left things far better than he had found them. He'd laughed off an assassin's bullet, won a historic landslide for his second term, reformed the tax code, rebooted the economy, stared down our enemies abroad (less through action and more through flexing), wore a smile through terrible recessions, and handed the White House to a sitting vice president for the first time in 150 years. He even opened the floodgates to more immigrants.

Oh yeah, that's kind of a problem, isn't it? Among Reagan's achievements was exactly the sort of immigration reform that today's party stands athwart yelling Stop! In fact, the majority of the 2016 candidates for the Republican presidential nomination aren't just against immigration (legal or otherwise), they're yapping about repealing "birthright citizenship."

That is, when they're not getting red-faced over defunding Planned Parenthood (which has moved to first-day action on the calendar of many of the hopefuls) and defending County Clerk Kim Davis's First Amendment right to shred the Constitution (it's come to this: Republicans championing a government worker for refusing to do her job).

Let me suggest that the GOP's Reagan fetish is not helping the party anymore. In fact, it is actively holding them back. Reagan was born in 1911 and he punched out over a quarter-century ago in another century. The Soviet Union still existed when he left office. Leona Helmsley was a big story in 1989. Savings & Loans were a thing in 1989. Taylor Swift wasn't yet a thing for a good chunk of 1989.

And yet whenever a Republican dares criticize or question the wisdom of Ronald Reagan, he or she gets covered in green goo. That happened last year when Rand Paul had the temerity to point out that The Great Communicator was overly fond of borrowing money and increasing the size, scope, and spending of government.

But until Republican presidential aspirants unstick themselves from the flypaper of the worst elements of Reagan's legacy—reliance on deficit spending, inattention to long-term funding problems of inherently unsustainable old-age entitlements and shrugging off waste in defense spending—and inspire themselves with the best—a genuine sense of America as a welcoming city on a hill, a belief in unity and building consensus despite long odds, a forceful yet restrained foreign policy—they will have a tough time moving into the White House.

Since 1988, a Republican presidential candidate has won the popular vote just twice. And the party, which is constantly looking backward—past Reagan, even, to some mythical time when there were no race or gender issues and any recession was solved with a tax cut and a spending hike, and foreign policy wasn't a problem because we were always at war or at least had a peactime draft going—in a way that keeps it from being to seriously engage a world that is increasingly decentralized and seemingly chaotic. At least since Newt Gingrich, the GOP has billed itself as the party that gets the future, that small is good and that people everywhere want the same thing: individual rights and the ability to make their way in the world. Yet the GOP is constantly on the prowl for the next Great God Reagan who will make them swoon and clear the brush that clutters their path.

They can find inspiration from Reagan on how to confront a future they should embrace: One in which governments, corporations, religions, and other traditional sources of authority have less and less power over not just the good guys but the bad ones too. But today's GOP is too firmly facing backwards to embrace a country that is looser in terms of morality and lifestyle, and a world that benefits from cultural and economic engagement more than military threats and occupation.

Ever since I heard that the second debate was being held at the Reagan Sepulchre in Simi Valley, I've been thinking about a talk that former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels gave some years ago to a conservative group. This was when "Mitch the Knife" was widely considered to be presidential material.

I can't reproduce the exact phrasing but the gist went something like this. Daniels talked about going to college in the late '60s and early 1970s. He talked about how there were always a bunch of lefties and progs around on campus, talking about FDR and the New Deal and how it hadn't gone far enough. Daniels said he'd tell those folks to get bent (again, the phrasing isn't exact), because the New Deal was like 30 years ago, man, and it doesn't have very much to do with today's America.

So far, so good. Conservative-libertarian audiences like peeing on campus radicals and FDR. Daniels pulled some applause and hoots. But then he went on to say something that was really fricking awesome. He pointed out that here "we"—Republicans, he meant, or maybe fiscal conservatives more broadly—were in the 2000s and all "we" could do was invoke St. Ronald Reagan like he was the second coming of Jesus H. Christ (again, not his phrasing). Daniels looked around the room and said, You know, we're further in time from Reagan than those half-baked New Dealers were when I was in college. We've got to get new ideas, new policies, and a new vision of government. Times have changed. America has changed. Budget realities have changed.

I don't expect to here many new ideas, new policies, or new visions of government tonight. Do you? Most likely, we'll hear a lot of talk about how the Iran deal stinks on ice and how Obama is a dupe or a sellout or worse. Not much will be said about how U.S foreign policy under a Republican president and Congress blanched the earth for a decade-plus in two diferent countries and killed hundreds of thousands of people (including our own boys and girls) without leaving much to be proud of. Reagan, who approved fewer troop deployments in his two terms than Bill Clinton did, will be invoked as candidates talk about the need for more bombs and less butter. Reagan, who was divorced and generally unchurched and who helped legalize abortion in California and who didn't seem overly bothered by gays, will preface every invocation of the need to return to traditional values. All the candidates will talk about his genius at cutting taxes but exactly none will talk about cutting spending, even though tax rates are much lower than they were in his day and spending much higher.

A number of the big players on tonight's stage—Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Donald Trump—started life in the shadow of larger-than-life fathers. They are stand-ins for the Republican Party as a whole. It's a group that can neither replicate its father's success nor strike out for new territory that it can explore and build on. And until it does, the Republican Party, at the presidential level anyways, has nowhere to go but backwards.

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  1. Steve G   10 years ago

    OT: one of this esteemed crew has a potential copyright lawsuit on their hands...
    http://cheezburger.com/8564884.....-puns-unit

    1. Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair   10 years ago

      IDIOTS! The N from LAWN stands for AND. LAWN ORDER you twats, not LAWN AND ORDER.

      But at least you didn't put it in quotes. For that, I'll commute your sentence to life without parole.

  2. DEATFBIRSECIA   10 years ago

    Virulent fucking drug warrior is how I remember him.

    Carlton "Kids who smoke paraquat deserve to die" Turner, anyone?

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Thank you. Never forget.

    2. LoneWaco   10 years ago

      Jimmy Carter is the one who started paraquating weed

    3. sudon't   10 years ago

      "...Reagan overall left things far better than he had found them."

      Uh, unless you worked for a living. And yes, if you liked to get high. It's all revisionist history. I was really surprised when the canonization of Reagan began.

  3. Kristen Bids No Trump   10 years ago

    The Dems are worse - they haven't given up the ghost of JFK yet.

    (disclaimer: I have no great love for either figure)

    1. mfckr   10 years ago

      Nor the ghost of FDR.

      1. Akira   10 years ago

        It IS pretty amusing to see Democrats, who sell themselves as the anti-racist party, deifying the president who detained ~110,000 people based solely on their race.

        1. Res ipsa loquitur   10 years ago

          Let's not forget Woodrow Wilson, there is a real winner !

    2. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

      Too bad JFK didn't OD on drugs while in office like he probably would have eventually if it weren't for Oswald.

      1. Just say Nikki   10 years ago

        No, dude. The war on painkillers is bad enough.

        1. Suicidy   10 years ago

          I have severe intermittent bouts of sciatica pain. Thanks to painkiller paranoia, it's hard to get them when I need them. And thanks to that cunt Obama I can no longer get even half assed health coverage for less than $600 per month for just me.

          Is this a good time to bring up my plan to euthanize all the progressives?

    3. R C Dean   10 years ago

      Bingo. Look at the last two successful Dem candidates, and the rhetoric around them. It was all "Camelot" and "Kennedyesque".

      So tell us, Nick, can the Democrat Party will command the future without giving up its ridiculous nostalgia for its last great figure?

      1. C. S. P. Schofield   10 years ago

        The Democrat's last great figure was Truman. Before that you'd have to go back to Gover Cleveland.

        JFK was a second rate hack with good hair, nice teeth, and a first rate political machine that his daddy bought for him. Getting shot was, frankly, his best career move, legacy-wise. Both (Bubba) Clinton and Kerry were pale imitations of somebody who was a fraud to begin with.

        Not that the Republicans have been overburdened with Greats, mind.

        1. Suicidy   10 years ago

          I would say embracing Reagan's ideals and learning from his mistakes is the best move. The WoD, amnesty, expecting the democrat congress to honor a deal, etc. were real errors. In the context of the time he thought he was doing the right thing and didn't have the same hindsight we have now.

        2. CatoTheChipper   10 years ago

          Grover Cleveland = Best American President ever.

          My friends don't know what to think when I say that. Most are historically rather ignorant, so I always remind them that he was a Democrat. Regardless of whether they're D or R, they're surprised to hear it. Then I remind them that I'm a libertarian.

          1. Suicidy   10 years ago

            A long time ago, there were a lot of good democrats. The orogressive takeover is a far more recent phenomenon. As much as I disdain FDR for so many things, I see the good in Truman, Kennedy, Cleveland, etc..

          2. elfprince13   10 years ago

            Coolidge man, Coolidge. (and I'm only a little biased by being a Vermonter)

      2. MJGreen - Docile Citizen   10 years ago

        Obama was compared to FDR as much or more than he was compared to JFK.

        Partisans love their stars. Shocking.

      3. Bill Dalasio   10 years ago

        As I say below, Kennedy died in 1963. Nick Gillespie wasn't yet a thing for a good chunk of 1963.

    4. RBS   10 years ago

      I dated a hardcore SoCal Progressive for a couple of years. I called JFK a drug addled maniac in front of her parents. They actually asked me to leave the room so they could discuss my behavior with their daughter and whether or not I should end my trip early and fly all the way across the country to get home.

      1. Rich   10 years ago

        So, how did it play out?

        1. RBS   10 years ago

          I had to stay at her uncle's the rest of the trip.

          1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

            Was she hot?

            1. RBS   10 years ago

              If you mean great in bed then yes.

              1. Los Doyers   10 years ago

                Dodging the question

              2. Long Woodchippers   10 years ago

                but sooner or later you'd have to talk to her

          2. R C Dean   10 years ago

            After you dumped her, right?

            1. RBS   10 years ago

              I dumped her when I came back to the east coast.

          3. Rich   10 years ago

            I trust Uncle was cool.

            1. RBS   10 years ago

              Very cool.

          4. Je suis Woodchipper   10 years ago

            haha

            the gun-loving uncle with the good whisky and albums?

      2. NoVAHockey   10 years ago

        what year was this?

    5. XM   10 years ago

      JFK was a fairly conservative president by today's standards. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" No Dem president will say that now.

      1. Number.6   10 years ago

        Indeed no.

        Sacrificing the individual at the altar of the community is no longer requested. It's demanded.

        1. Suicidy   10 years ago

          You're mischaracterizing. Coming from a rich family or not, he fought in WW2 when he didn't have to. And at some cost. People actually believed in self sacrifice for their fellow man, and a country that had given them a lot. Not out of some servile need to worship the state, but a sense of pride in the principles and sacrifice upon which the U.S. is founded.

          That was probably the best of JFK. Who was a flawed man, and a so-so president. But he did have some good ideals.

          1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

            Noblesse oblige was a genuine thing back then. Hell, WWI wrecked upper classes in every European country (for all the bitching about poor workers, officers had greater percentage of casualties in every army, including ones you wouldn't think like Austro-Hungarian and Russian). And Kennedy clan did send their sons to the war, as did the Roosevelts. Teddy Roosevelt lost one of his sons in WWI, and two more in WWII (one as suicide while serving, other led the Utah beach landings and died from heart failure a month later).

            1. Number.6   10 years ago

              Sure, noblesse oblige was - and to some degree *is* a genuine thing. The British Royal family still send their male offspring into the military, and *somewhat* into harm's way as long as it doesn't put the royal lineage at risk.

              But noblesse oblige expressed by risking your children is very different from putting yourself in harm's way. And an *elected leader* of a nation that still (effectively) has the right to draft other people's children, a President standing up and telling people that it's nobler to serve the state than to be personally free, is pretty odious behavior, no matter who does it.

          2. Number.6   10 years ago

            WTF?

            A president declares that it's every citizen's responsibility to subjugate his personal freedom to the will of the state, and all I get back is some Kennedy-fellator whining that I'm mischaracterizing (I think you might mean misinterpreting) his quote?

            Dear bog, I had to check the URL. I thought I'd ended up in Salon.

            Without getting into specifics, a reasonable argument could be made that the motivations of the Kennedy family as a whole were more complex and far-reaching than maybe the motivations of a normal "patriotic" family.

            In any case, volunteerism is a fine and noble gesture when the spirit in which it is offered derives from the individual.

            1. Bubba Jones   10 years ago

              I read "ask not" as an argument against the welfare state.

            2. Suicidy   10 years ago

              You're really misinterpreting this one. That is never what Kennedy meant. Re read what I wrote, and maybe think about it. And for Kennedy's faults, he was no Marxist. In fact he was quite anti communist. And that's something of an endorsement coming from me. There are few of you here that despise progressives/Marxists as much as I do, or are willing to go fas far to rid the world of them.

  4. Palin's Buttplug   10 years ago

    Since 1988, a Republican presidential candidate has won the popular vote just twice.

    Bush in 2004. When was the other?

    1. brady949   10 years ago

      They must be counting 88.

    2. Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair   10 years ago

      1988.

    3. SFC B   10 years ago

      If it is '88 inclusive then Bush I in '88 and Dubya in 2004.

      1. SFC B   10 years ago

        And if it is '88 inclusive then then "Only twice since 1988" still suffers from some massive small sample size issues. There's been seven presidential elections since 1988. Winning the popular vote in 2 of them is still ~30% of the time. President Trump winning reelection in 2016 gets them to 4 of 9 winning the popular vote and having held the presidency for 5 of the 9 possible terms. Heck, since 1988 the Democratic Party presidental candidate has only received over 50% of the popular vote 3 times since 1988

        1. Overt   10 years ago

          Also don't forget that 2 of those elections, no one won the "Popular" vote: Clinton was elected twice with less than 50% of the popular vote.

        2. Scalro Humillimus   10 years ago

          1992 D plurality 43%
          1996 D plurality 49%
          2000 D plurality 48%
          2004 R majority 51%
          2008 D majority 53%
          2012 D majority 51%

  5. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Those deranged Republikkkuntz have lurched so far to the extremist right poor ol' Saint Ronnie would have to tear up his Party card and join the glorious Democratic crusade for justice and equality.

    1. Kristen Bids No Trump   10 years ago

      Nancy would never allow such a thing!!!

      1. That's A Bingo!   10 years ago

        She would if her astrologer said it was okay.

        1. Tonio   10 years ago

          ^This.

    2. Bluwater   10 years ago

      It's always hilarious when the Salon boys show up and pretend to speak for Reagan. And no, the Comedy Channel is not a news source.

  6. DJF   10 years ago

    Reagan was a democrat who voted four times for FDR, As President, Reagan never proposed getting rid of any FDR's major programs. Reagan used deficit spending to try to improve the economy like FDR. Even the firing of the air traffic controllers followed FDR, who also did not believe in government unions.

    The reason why Reagan was not a Democrat when he ran for President was that the Democratic party especially in California had moved so far left especially in social issues. Reagan repeatedly said that he did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.

    1. Lee G   10 years ago

      Strangely enough, as much as the GOP reveres him, the Democrats revile him and bemoan his deficits. They all have their partisan blinders on and cannot see him for what he was, a socon Democrat.

      1. Kristen Bids No Trump   10 years ago

        Aka "Joe Lieberman"

        1. Lee G   10 years ago

          Exactly, except with more telegenics.

      2. Palin's Buttplug   10 years ago

        As was Dumbya.

        Interestingly the only presidents that worked on deficit reduction were Clinton and Obama.

        1. Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair   10 years ago

          Hey shit sieve; Here's something for ya!

        2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

          Hey dipshit; who are you going to vote for this time around?

        3. XM   10 years ago

          "Interestingly the only presidents that worked on deficit reduction were Clinton and Obama."

          Interesting to you only, because whatever deficit they might have trimmed later became a moot point when their future spending programs and other policies went into effect.

          You can thank sequestration cuts (and yes, also tax increases) for deficit reduction that occurred on Obama's last few years in office. CBO will deficits will shoot up because Obama didn't do anything about entitlement spending.

          1. XM   10 years ago

            CBO says

        4. Suicidy   10 years ago

          Obama worked on deficit reduction in the same way a sleazy retail outlet marks goods up to mark them down. And Clinton had his feet held to the fire by congressional republicans lead by Gingrich.

          Thanks for playing though. Care to try again?

      3. wareagle   10 years ago

        that term - the conservative Dem - simply does not exist anymore. People wonder why the South went GOP; that's the reason. Meanwhile, the current-day Repubs have hardly lurched to the right; it's just that in comparison to today's Dems, they seem far right. The party has always been pro-defense, pro-life, and some other things, but it used to be pro-market, too, instead of a different brand of cronyist. And frankly, it's own actions are why Trump and, to lesser extents, Carson and Fiorina have found traction.

        1. RBS   10 years ago

          Do the Blue Dogs not exist anymore?

          1. Lee G   10 years ago

            Barely. Jim Webb would be a good example of that and he's almost an outcast within his own party.

            1. Long Woodchippers   10 years ago

              I read Webb's position, and he looks pretty middle left to me

          2. wareagle   10 years ago

            I don't think so. Maybe a guy in the NC district where I used to live but he may have shifted, too, in order to keep his seat.

            1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   10 years ago

              Conservative Dems still exist at state and local levels in much of the South.

              The Rowan KY county clerk is a democrat and probably considered conservative.

              I think people on the internet have been talking about her for some reason, but it escapes me right now.

              1. Swiss Servator   10 years ago

                *standing ovation*

        2. Tony   10 years ago

          Both parties moved to the right over the past few decades. Things may be changing slightly now, with both parties moving in opposite directions.

          If Reagan wasn't a true Republican in his day then nobody was.

          1. Lee G   10 years ago

            At least Pirate Truther appears to be a real person. You're just a sock.

            1. C. S. P. Schofield   10 years ago

              And he needs darning.

          2. kbolino   10 years ago

            You are conflating ideology with party.

          3. Suicidy   10 years ago

            Moved to the right? Uh, no. How old are you? I lived through all this stuff. Both parties have gone far left relative to the 80's.

            1. Tony   10 years ago

              That makes absolutely no sense. Reagan raised taxes many times. Republicans today think any tax hike ever is heresy.

              1. Suicidy   10 years ago

                Reagan also cut taxes. The tax increases of which you speak were part of a compromise with congressional democrats for spending cuts. The democrats reneged.

                This is all well documented, in case you don't remember it firsthand like I do. Or is your knowledge based on contextless talking points from Media !atters and such? I ask, because I hear this same line of bulkshit every time Reagan's name comes up around your kind.

                It's like the inverse of Clinton cutting the deficit. As if that wasn't the product of pressure from Gingrich and the other congressional republicans.

                1. Lord at War   10 years ago

                  As if that wasn't the product of pressure from Gingrich and the other congressional republicans.

                  That's why I always liked Kasich (Budget Committee Chair during the 90's)- then he became Governor...

        3. Suicidy   10 years ago

          The moderate democrats lose more and more election in conservative leaning areas because of Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Either from alienating not progtards in the electorate, or internal purges.

      4. Bluwater   10 years ago

        They do revile him, but only because the GOP reveres him. That's how it goes. Doesn't matter what IT is. The first guy that stakes out his position speaks for his side, and then the other side must take the opposite view, no matter how stupid that is. Those who don't have a say in IT, just wait to speak until their side takes a position.

        Yet strangely enough, so many Dems still try to channel the Gipper. Obama himself has compared himself to Reagan on multiple occasions.

    2. Suicidy   10 years ago

      Sorry, but the whole deficit issue is at the foot of congressional democrats of the time. There was a bargain for tax increases in change for budget cuts. The democrats reneged.

  7. Citizen X   10 years ago

    When i was 4 or 5 had a toy robot who transformed into a gun (NOT Megatron - some translucent plastic ripoff). I named it Ronald Ray-gun, which my diehard democrat Dad thought was hilarious.

  8. Hyperion   10 years ago

    Well, I can tell you as someone who remembers that era very well, Reagan seemed like the best president ever in history after 4 years of ta Jimmah.

    1. Palin's Buttplug   10 years ago

      Volcker put the hammer on inflation.

      Plus, Reagan did a good job with Gorby. Otherwise he had sneaky bastards like Ollie North meddling in every country around.

    2. Kristen Bids No Trump   10 years ago

      My Pa predicted in the 80's Ronnie's legacy would be very long-lived, and he'd be one of those prezznits that was remembered for a long time (a la Washington or the Roosevelts).

      My Pa? He's smart.

    3. Bluwater   10 years ago

      Exactly! Reagan had a lot of things going, but the biggest one was that he sent the peanut farmer back to Plains GA. The other thing was that he totally kicked ass in his majority win in a way that no candidate since has come close to, and then the Iranians released the hostages the day he was sworn in. So not only was he have the luck to come right after the 98# weakling, he kicked sand in everyone's face and the bullies ran before he could blink.

      And yes he borrowed big time, but there was a lot of forgiveness for that too when interest rates fell from the low 20% range back down to the 7-8% range.

      Sorry haters, but that's just the stuff that legends are built on, and not even his political enemies can reinterpret that. All they can do is like Sparky here did and wait it out till they can call it old news.

  9. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    handed the White House to a sitting vice president for the first time in 150 years.

    Who then bungled the job so thoroughly he was booted overboard after a single term.

    1. Hamster of Doom   10 years ago

      Who then bungled the job so thoroughly he was booted overboard after a single term.

      Who then was plagued by an unexpected loss, denied by voters confused about outside issues and the state of the economy. Many of them were angry that he failed to pursue their own personal agenda with a single-minded fervor; such people are clearly mad. Despite a professed rabid love of law and government power, a distaff faction of an unimportant offshoot of the GOP to whom no one should ever listen to ever because of their insignificance, nevertheless convinced otherwise sensible voters that, after years of getting what they deserved good and hard, it turned out to not be the promised paradise on earth. Such people engaged in the only form of protest they felt would fit into a commercial break: a childish rebellion in the ballot box. It was sullen, and low, but the simpletons who craved a sense of agency would not be thwarted.

      /GOP

  10. brady949   10 years ago

    The Reagan Library debate is always the worst. It's mostly just gobbling Reagan's knob.

    1. Bluwater   10 years ago

      It's always so much better when held at the Ron Paul libra.... no, wait!

  11. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    We've got to get new ideas, new policies, and a new vision of government.

    Here's one:
    NO, FUCK YOU, CUT SPENDING

    1. Suicidy   10 years ago

      How about 'NO, FUCK YOU, CUT SPENDING. OR ELSE!!!!!!!'

      Something Boehner and McConnell need to learn.

      1. Swiss Servator   10 years ago

        +1 Fuck off, slaver

  12. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

    Reagan is revered because he gave great speeches and had a grandfatherly persona so convincing no one cared if his underlings were dirty.

    In essence, nothing bad happened during his 8 years, he created great memories in the form of speeches, and 80s culture has a strong nostalgic pull for those alive at the time.

    It was the last time conservatives felt all was right with the world and we could all be proud to be Americans.

    1. GILMORE?   10 years ago

      ""nothing bad happened during his 8 years""

      At least nothing anyone could remember in court

      1. Paul.   10 years ago

        Oliver North admitted, in testimony, that the Iran Contra deal was "a neat idea".

      2. Paul.   10 years ago

        I can't, however, remember if he admitted that before or after his lawyer said "I'm his lawyer, not a potted plant", receiving thunderous laughter in what may have been the greatest senate investigative exchange since the 1950s.

        1. GILMORE?   10 years ago

          Even as a young kid, I was like, "These motherfuckers have some balls on them"

          meaning, Reagan's "What? me? Oh, I think i was president then, yes. Ha! I still am. Who? well, that doesn't sound like me. No I don't speak spanish. Have you asked Nancy?"-defense...

          ...and then Ollie North's poor-man's-Gordon Liddy impersonation. And JohnPointdexter's very good casting as the "Evil Genius Bureaucratic Dickhead" which was to be re-used by Hollywood in almost every action film of the 1990s

          That said = you had people on the left crowing for a decade+ about how America was forever tainted by the sins of Iran-Contra... which I assure you shares ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN COMMON WITH BENGHAZI WHICH IS SUCH A FAKE SCANDAL

          1. Paul.   10 years ago

            Reagan kept Democrats liberal, we could use him in the whitehouse again. Winning made Democrats illiberal progressives. They could stand to get their asses kicked for about two decades.

    2. Episiarch   10 years ago

      ROCK FLAG AND EAGLE

      1. iVOTED4Kodos   10 years ago

        Such a good show. Can't decide which is funnier, this or the "because of the implication" scene with Dennis

    3. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      There were a few KAH-BLAM-OHs in the middle east, IIRC.

    4. LarryA   10 years ago

      nothing bad happened during his 8 years

      True. The communist government of the USSR fell, unspectacularly.

      There are several ways an empire can come apart. In this case it was an empire with a large surplus of ICBMs. Had the bosses decided that burying the U.S. was the way to keep power, it could have been very messy.

      If Carter had still been CiC, I think the proposition would have been very tempting to the Politbureau. But even they know you don't want to go to the brink with a cowboy.

      See Carter's Iranian hostage crisis, which dragged on for over a year and suddenly resolved itself the day Reagan took office.

  13. GILMORE?   10 years ago

    Ooh, Nick's telling ghost stories! Someone start a fire and lets make S'mores.

  14. Galactic Chipper Cdr Lytton   10 years ago

    You know, we're further in time from Reagan than those half-baked New Dealers were when I was in college. We've got to get new ideas, new policies, and a new vision of government. Times have changed. America has changed. Budget realities have changed.

    Change for change's sake isn't generally a conservative position. Hell, I'd like to see a return to some 200 year old dead guys' positions. Getting back to Ronnie, despite my very mixed feeling about his legacy, government still isn't the solution and it's still the problem.

    1. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

      Yes, his actions to the contrary notwithstanding, Reagan at least set the proper tone for the debate on government.

  15. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Reagan projected an aura of optimism and confidence, something J Carter sorely lacked.

    1. Palin's Buttplug   10 years ago

      True.

      AKA "Bullshit".

      1. Michael S. Langston   10 years ago

        Just because you're an insecure pessimist, doesn't mean optimists protecting confidence are all bullshitters.

  16. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Aka "Joe Lieberman"

    *makes sign to ward off evil, spits*

    1. Episiarch   10 years ago

      This breakfast cereal costs too much!

    2. Hyperion   10 years ago

      Lieberman, ugh, one of the worst to ever walk the halls of congress. What a complete shitbag.

      1. Suicidy   10 years ago

        Really?

  17. Bubba Jones   10 years ago

    IIRC, Reagan's immigration reform was not supposed to yield more illegal immigrants voting Democrat. Now that we know how that works out, it's not a betrayal to say "not again."

    Reagan's primary achievement was spending the USSR into the ground. We should not discount that lightly. He did that when Democrats were arguing for capitulation, and popular fiction was predicating on hundreds of years of soviet rule. Check out the CoDominium sci fi from the '80s (Pournelle).

    I would really like to see how the alternate history would have worked out without 9/11. Where W could have focused on a balanced budget and social security reform. While we're at it, let's skip the 1991 Gulf War. By comparison, Reagan's defense spending was a bargain.

    1. wareagle   10 years ago

      his reform idea traded amnesty for illegals already here for border security to stop the flow. One of those two things did not happen so after a lengthy lathering and rinsing process, we are now repeating the cycle.

      1. Notorious UGCC   10 years ago

        Yeah, you may as well say, "Reagan tried to kick the football, so you should try, too!"

      2. Bubba Jones   10 years ago

        Reagan didn't have the benefit of hindsight on that one. Now that we see how this plays out, we shouldn't try it again.

  18. iVOTED4Kodos   10 years ago

    "For Republicans, Reagan is like Zardoz"

    From afar, it sounds awesome and awe-inspiring**, but when you actually sit down to examine/watch it, you are left feeling dissatisfied and lied to??

    **(I mean, who wouldn't get excited when the heard young Connery starred in a Sci-fi movie about powerful, ancient, Doom Gods)

    1. Episiarch   10 years ago

      It's a John Boorman film. You should already know what you're getting into before you watch it.

      1. Mint Berry Crunch   10 years ago

        Seeing way more of Ned Beatty than I ever wanted?

        1. Episiarch   10 years ago

          YOU WERE WARNED

          Now squeal like a pig.

        2. Suicidy   10 years ago

          Also seeing Sean Connery dressed in a way I wish I could unsee.

  19. Bubba Jones   10 years ago

    While we're at it, remember that Reagan switched parties as a result of his experience in the SAG. He was convinced there were actual commies at work in our politics, at least in the SAG, and he didn't think the Dems took it seriously.

    To the extent he chose "robust economy" as the best way to defeat the evil empire, it was a Win-Win.

    1. R C Dean   10 years ago

      To the extent he chose "robust economy" as the best way to defeat the evil empire,

      Its like he had played every strategy game ever.

      1. Paul.   10 years ago

        *DeGaulle has left the game*

      2. Kristen Bids No Trump   10 years ago

        Its like he had played every strategy game ever.

        President Reagan, Mastermind

        (I hate that I have to actually type the HTML now. REASONABLE!!!!!)

  20. Hyperion   10 years ago

    It's hard for me not to think back to those days with great nostalgia. America was just a lot more free back then. No matter what Reagan was doing, you didn't feel it too much personally. It was good times. One time he was giving away cheese. I remember the 'Reagan' cheese, and the Soviet Union fell and the Berlin wall fell. Well I think Boosh 1 was prez then, but no matter. It seemed like good times and that things would only get better, which they did for almost another decade, until Dubyah, 911, and everything has been downhill since.

    What would it even take to roll back the size of government back to 1989? How many agencies would have to be dismantled? How much spending would need to be cut?

    1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

      Reagan did beef-up the war on drug users. He should get a lot of the credit for the militarization of the police. The 80s was when they really changed from peace officers to warriors.

      1. Hyperion   10 years ago

        That's my biggest knock on him was how he doubled down on Nixon's WOD.

        1. CatoTheChipper   10 years ago

          The 1980's iteration of the WoD was a fully bipartisan affair. Black civil rights leaders, politicians, and preachers were among its loudest supporters.

          Certainly Reagan had a blind spot when it came to the WoD.

        2. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

          Blame, not credit.

      2. sasob   10 years ago

        The 80s was when they really changed from peace officers to warriors jackbooted stormtroopers.

        FIFY

    2. R C Dean   10 years ago

      You may recall, Hyperion, a few months ago when there were a lot of commenters disagreeing with the proposition that this country has become less free over the last few generations or so.

      I think it goes without saying, myself. At all levels of government, the micromanagement and enforcement activities are just off the charts, after ramping up decade over decade.

      It would be interesting, I think, to know if a black person faces more barriers now in opening and running a business than they did in the '50s, for example.

      Sure, we got rid of a lot of discrimination, but we seem to have done so by subjecting everyone to a horrific level of government involvement in their lives. I couldn't say with any confidence that even black people are more free now than they were when they were racially discriminated against. Maybe, but I don't think its at all obvious. The Civil Rights movement isn't "win" button for freedom which ends all discussion about longterm trends, and it would be nice if more people realized that.

      1. Hyperion   10 years ago

        Anyone who disagrees that we're less free and the government has become greatly more intrusive and oppressive, it's because of 1 of 3 things.

        1. They weren't alive in the 80s or before, or too young then to remember.

        2. They've lived all of this time in an ivory tower or have lived a very sheltered and privileged life.

        3. They are in denial.

        1. CatoTheChipper   10 years ago

          Last night's Burning Man article reminded how we are less free than in the 70s. In 1972, I went to a huge hippie gathering at a national forest in Colorado, not as large as Burning Man but same order of magnitude I think. Everybody -- and I mean everybody -- had some quantity of dope. The cops pretty much left everybody free to come and go as they pleased. They didn't run busts and were actually courteous and helpful, directing traffic and stuff.

        2. Robert   10 years ago

          Compared to the 1980s you might be right, compared to the turn of the century you would be right, but compared to the 1960s or earlier, we're much freer.

      2. Paul.   10 years ago

        There aren't rednecks driving around in pickups smashing their storefronts, we've just made it prohibitively expensive to open the storefront.

        Progress.

      3. Suicidy   10 years ago

        Progressive freedom issues are like a loss leader product, or a Black Friday door buster sale at WalMart. It's designed to get the general public in the door. Once you're in they up sell the public to full on Soviet/Maoist Marxism. Sure, not everyone will buy, but they get enough pull through to advance their evil progressive agenda.

  21. sarcasmic   10 years ago

    Funny how Democrats like to claim that Reagan was nothing but a terrible actor who managed to be so good an actor that he fooled an entire nation. Kinda like how that moron named Bush masterminded 9/11. Not that I'd ever expect intellectual consistency from the left.

    1. CatoTheChipper   10 years ago

      Yeah, he was just lucky that Gorbachev decided to end the Cold War.

  22. Juvenile Bluster   10 years ago

    OT: The Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals has postponed Richard Glossip's execution. No link yet, got it from Sister Helen Prejean's twitter account.

    1. Just say Nikki   10 years ago

      Wonderful news!!!

      1. BakedPenguin   10 years ago

        Yes, great to hear this.

        1. BakedPenguin   10 years ago

          It's apparently only for two weeks, but hopefully his legal team can find something in that time.

          1. R C Dean   10 years ago

            Based on their publicity campaign, they already have something, right?

            They just haven't told us what, yet.

    2. Je suis Woodchipper   10 years ago

      At the second trial, his defense team again didn't show the videotape of Sneed's confession to jurors, and Glossip was convicted again. This time, the Court of Criminal Appeals upheld the conviction.

      That confession video must not be all it's cracked up to be for two different teams of defense lawyers working a high profile case to not show it.

      1. Rhywun   10 years ago

        I assumed the judge wouldn't allow it? Isn't that what they usually do when they want to predetermine the outcome.

    3. Kristen Bids No Trump   10 years ago

      Whew!

  23. Notorious UGCC   10 years ago

    "That is, when they're not getting red-faced over defunding Planned Parenthood (which has moved to first-day action on the calendar of many of the hopefuls)"

    Yeah, what awful timing, attacking Planned Parenthood just when they're in the middle of a scandal about selling baby parts, behavior which grosses out the fence-sitting moderates.

    At this critical juncture, it would be best for Republicans to simply accept federal funding for Planned Parenthood, including the recycling of that taxpayer money back into Democratic Party campaign coffers. Because opposing such things is a political non-starter.

    "and defending County Clerk Kim Davis's First Amendment right to shred the Constitution (it's come to this: Republicans championing a government worker for refusing to do her job)."

    This meme really needs a stake through the heard.

    Davis was confronted with the choice of (a) doing her job or (b) obeying a federal court order. She couldn't do both, so she chose the former.

    1. Notorious UGCC   10 years ago

      stake through its *heart*

      1. Mint Berry Crunch   10 years ago

        I liked your first spelling better. Amber Heard would be a really sexy vampire. Has she ever played one?

        1. Notorious UGCC   10 years ago

          I hadn't "Heard" of her before - the only movie in her filmography that I watched was *Machete Kills.*

          1. Mint Berry Crunch   10 years ago

            She was a lesbian until Johnny Depp converted her.

            (Or she was just bisexual the whole time, but I think the conversion hypothesis is funnier.)

            1. Suicidy   10 years ago

              It's just natural for really hot chicks to get on each other. It's even more natural if I'm there watching, or get involved.

        2. Suicidy   10 years ago

          I would personally enjoy penetrating her with wood. But not in the heart. Between her tits though. So near the heart.

    2. Notorious UGCC   10 years ago

      Planned Parenthood is really a good issue for Republicans.

      Democratic leaders know they have to support funding for Planned Parenthood, otherwise they, the said leaders, will be purged by the "feminist" base.

      But the Democratic leaders are fully aware that the swing voters would not be fans of PP's activities if they actually knew what was going on: Covering up rape, blocking reforms designed to prevent Gosnell-type atrocities, selling baby parts, etc., etc.

      The only way to continue the funding is to lie to the swing voters about PP's activities (mammograms! free puppies!) and tell voters not to believe Democratic talking points, not their lying eyes. This is actually the best strategy available, since the swing voters don't like thinking a lot about abortion and are generally willing to listen to soothing reassurances that they don't have to worry about it.

      But if (against their own inclinations) the swing voters have to confront what PP is actually doing, then that spells trouble for Democrats and opportunities for Republicans.

      So even the most cynical Republican operatives, who is only against abortion because Democrats like it, should be able to see the opportunities in this situation.

      And pro-abortion concern-trolling shouldn't deter them from going on the offensive.

      1. Notorious UGCC   10 years ago

        and tell voters to believe Democratic talking points, not their lying eyes....

      2. brady949   10 years ago

        Planned Parenthood could have been a good issue had they not beat it into the ground in a matter of days, but they've already done that. When I see "Planned Parenthood" now I just roll my eyes and move on.

    3. R C Dean   10 years ago

      they're in the middle of a scandal about selling baby parts, behavior which grosses out the fence-sitting moderates.

      And violates federal law. Let's not forget that part. Aside from whether we like the law or not, PP is breaking it, and a motivated prosecutor could probably PP down on a RICO case.

      Funny how our Justice Department goes way beyond the law in going after businesses they hate (pot, guns, etc.), and ignores blatant, public violations of the law by businesses they lurv.

      1. SFC B   10 years ago

        How quickly would the Obama DoJ be getting to work had a NYT reporter caught multiple FFLs on camera talking about how they'd sell to people they strongly suspected were straw buyers (assuming they weren't selling to Federal agents who were going to drop the guns across the Mexican border that is)?

      2. Suicidy   10 years ago

        And funny how some obscure county clerk gets thrown in the clink for not granting a few marriage licenses but the baby butchers walk free after violating actual federal laws?

  24. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

    This is all Reagan's fault!
    /buttplug

    1. kbolino   10 years ago

      I'm pretty sure that, before Bush came along, that was the Plug's go-to excuse for anything bad that happened during the Clinton administration.

    2. grrizzly   10 years ago

      Where is Libertymike? This should have been his thread.

      1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

        We were commandeered by a pirate.

  25. onebornfree   10 years ago

    I admit it- at the time, Reagan had me fooled. 🙁 .

    However, in retrospect its easy for me to see that Reagan was a fraud- just another scam artist , just like Trump, Paul and all the rest of the current candidates - and just like all presidents both before or since Reagan.

    Fact: there are no political solutions for _any_ percieved "problem" ; never have been, never will be - not "right wing", not "left wing" , not even so-called "Ron Paul", or "libertarian" solutions.

    Fact: As long as you believe that real political solutions actually exist, dear reader, you will remain firmly locked inside "the Matrix"; i.e. exactly where the Obama's, Trumps, Sanders , Pauls, etc. all want you to be:-)

    Fact: the author of this article is just another in the endless stream of "inside the matrix" writers doing their utmost to keep you firmly buried/entrenched deep inside that "matrix", by encouraging/flattering yours and others here endless fantasies of dreamed of political "solutions" to yours, the country's, or the world's, problems, when in fact, there are none, can be none, and never have been any 🙂 .

    Regards, onebornfree.
    http://www.onebornfree.blogspot.com

    1. Hyperion   10 years ago

      Nice eye patch, bro. We typically wear monocles around here, but we will accept an eye patch in substitution.

      1. SugarFree   10 years ago

        YARR HYPERION! LET THE SCALES FALL FROM YOUR EYES, MATEY!

        1. Hyperion   10 years ago

          BATON DOWN THE HATCHES AND STOW AWAY THE ORPHANS! THAR IN THE GREAT SALTY DEPTHS THERE BE MONSTERS!

          1. Lee G   10 years ago

            BE CAREFUL LAD OR HE'LL SEND YOU DOWN TO ALEX JONES' LOCKER

            1. Swiss Servator   10 years ago

              ALEX JONES' LOCKER

              *stands to applaud*

          2. Number.6   10 years ago

            It's fun to charter an accountant
            And sail the wide accountancy,
            To find, explore the funds offshore
            And skirt the shoals of bankruptcy!

        2. Homple   10 years ago

          That's fall from your eye , matey.

    2. Lee G   10 years ago

      PIRATE TRUTHER RETURNS

      YARRRRRR WHERE BE YE BOOTY?

      1. Rhywun   10 years ago

        ARRRR PLZ PLZ READ ME BLOG MATEYS

    3. Warty   10 years ago

      AHOY MATEY THAR BE DUBLOONS BEHIND 9/11 YARRRR

      1. SugarFree   10 years ago

        NO CHEST HAS EVER FALLEN INTO DAVEY JONES' LOCKER THAT FAST. YAR, IT BE SCIENCE!

        1. Warty   10 years ago

          WHAR BE THE BARNACLES ON THE MOON FLAG ARRRRR

        2. Episiarch   10 years ago

          ARRRRRR IT WAS FREE FALL OFF THE PLANK I TELLS YA YARRRR

          1. SugarFree   10 years ago

            YAR! HAVE YE EVER LOOK'D AT A PIECE O' EIGHT, MATEY? LIKE REALLY LOOK'D? YAR! THERE BE STRANGE THINGS!

      2. Hyperion   10 years ago

        YARRR, IT'S TALK LIKE A PIRATE AND ORPHAN CANNON SHOOT DAY, GRAB SOME WENCHES AND ALE AND LOAD UP THOSE ORPHANS!

      3. Notorious UGCC   10 years ago

        Arrr, Talk Like a Pirate Day be three days away, ye landlubbers, see -

        http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html

        And ye can't save it for three more days, ye premature pirate-ulators?

        1. kbolino   10 years ago

          Your really need to click on the link in onebornfree's post. It's SFW.

        2. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

          Important: learn how to Talk Like a Pirate from the pros.

    4. Episiarch   10 years ago

      YARRR MORPHEUS WILL RESCUE US FROM THE DAMNED DAVEY JONES LOCKER OF THE MATRIX ARRRRR

      1. SugarFree   10 years ago

        EVERYONE BE LIVIN' A DREAM LIFE BUT ME! YAR! THAT EXPLAINS IT! YAR!

        1. Episiarch   10 years ago

          YARRRR I'D SELL YOU ALL OUT FOR A FAKE STEAK ARRGGHH WALK THE PLANK YE DOGS

          1. Hyperion   10 years ago

            I CALL FOR A MUTINY, LAND LUBBERS!!!

        2. Hyperion   10 years ago

          I get this feeling that you guys have met up with the pirate in some time past...

          1. Lee G   10 years ago

            YARRR WE FOUGHT IN THE INFOWARS TOGETHER

            1. Episiarch   10 years ago

              YARRR HE WAS GOOD MAN THEN BUT THEN THE MONEY WAS TOO GOOD ARRRRR HE'S AS BLACK-HEARTED AS THE DREAD PIRATE ROBERTS NOW ARRRRR

              1. Lee G   10 years ago

                YARRR THERE COMES A TIME IN MOST MEN'S LIVES WHEN THEY FEEL THE NEED TO RAISE THE FALSE FLAG ARRRRRR

          2. SugarFree   10 years ago

            YAR! HE BE THE ONLY SQUAB BRAVE ENOUGH TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE 9/11, YE SCURVY DOG!

            1. Hyperion   10 years ago

              I'VE SAILED ALL 57 SEAS WITH MY CREW OF FAIR WENCHES, LAND LUBBER!

          3. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

            Yeah. He truthed up the 9/11 thread with his truthiness.

    5. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      I really like your ride at Disneyland.

    6. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      I just emailed him my problems. I suggest you do the same and post the replies here.

      1. SugarFree   10 years ago

        YAR! TRUE PIRATES ONLY REPLY BY THE CARRIER PIGEON!

        1. Episiarch   10 years ago

          GARRR DON'T FORGET THE SEMAPHORE YE SALTY DOG

          1. SugarFree   10 years ago

            NO FLAGS ON ME SHIP EXCEPT THE JOLLY ROGER, YE DOG! I'LL HAVE YOU KEELHAULED FOR THIS, YAR! WHERE BE ME FIRST MATE?

      2. Hyperion   10 years ago

        Did anyone send the 'I'm living in an oppressive police state' problem yet?

    7. Warty   10 years ago

      YARRR MATEY WHAT ABOUT THE VAN ALLEN RADIATION ARRRRR

  26. eyeroller   10 years ago

    He'd...reformed the tax code...

    You're talking about how he jacked up the Social Security taxes, right?

    1. R C Dean   10 years ago

      Nah. He got rid of a bunch of tax shelters and lowered the marginal rates.

      About the only decent income tax reform in my lifetime, and I'm fucking old.

      1. CatoTheChipper   10 years ago

        Donald Trump was livid over the 1986 Tax Simplification Act.

        Reagan also indexed the tax brackets for inflation. Before that, taxes rates went up automatically went up with inflation.

  27. Lord Humungus   10 years ago

    I'm an old Ronnie fan though he has become a bit tarnished with time and my own changing political outlook.

    But he does get bonus points for confronting the evils of communism and actually doing something about it.

    1. Hyperion   10 years ago

      "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

      1. Lord at War   10 years ago

        My favorite Reagan...

        "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

    2. Drake   10 years ago

      He gets more bonus points for breaking a government union strike.

  28. Drake   10 years ago

    Nick knows he's misleading, bordering on lying, on Reagan's immigration record. It was an amnesty (Reagan had the guts to call it what it was) in return for better enforcement and border security. He was had and admitted it later.

    1. Lord Humungus   10 years ago

      Why that's the Reason way!

  29. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Some genius at WaPo heard about the "clock =/= bomb" muddle in Texas. Blames racism.

    If the moderators of the second Republican debate are still looking for questions to ask the party's presidential candidates, this is fertile soil. Yes, it's one incident, but it can serve as a jumping-off point for a lot of issues. Is this an example of good local governance? Are Americans too quick to be suspicious of Muslims or those whom they perceive as Muslim? Do immigrants face an unfriendly American society? Are American educators able to prepare students for the technology-rich American workplace? And so on. Make up your own! It's easy.

    Here's another one: has our government's incessant terrormongering created a vast cohort of retarded pantswetters completely unable to comprehend risk?

  30. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

    I'd enjoy not having a President, period- much less having to endure years and years of presidential cock-gagging that never seems to end when elites discover themselves a political icon to kneel to.

    Allow the citizens to vote on the various leaders of cabinet posts every 4 years and fuck this idea of a single person being granted power to hand-select their own long table of immensely powerful and mostly corrupt barbarians to head the acronyms that generally make life miserable for many of us.

  31. Enough About Woodchippers   10 years ago

    Dumbest. Reason. Article. Eveh.

    1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      Please, it doesn't come close to the yesterday's Dalmia masterpiece.

      But for true dumb, you need Richman. And I'm not talking "Kyle is Lanza" stupid. I'm talking,

      Yet another manufactured crisis ? costing over 2,000 lives. It could be brought to a speedy end if Barack Obama would give the word.

      US out of Ukraine!

      I love the magazine, I gave them money, I get a new issue in my mailbox, but by god, people, stop trying to make Commies like you!

  32. UCrawford   10 years ago

    The premise is false...it's not Reagan holding Republican candidates back. It's Republican candidates like Trump and Bush, who are too stupid to understand Reagan or his policies, holding Republicans back.

    It's not Reagan's fault that the Republican party today is run by imbeciles who don't understand rights or good policy. The only thing that's kept Republicans electable is that Democrats are so much worse.

    1. UCrawford   10 years ago

      Also, Reagan was not "unchurched"...he was quite religious and had a church. He just didn't attend while he was President because he realized that it was disruptive to services and other church-goers and he felt that it was wrong of him to ruin the ability of other people to go to service just because he wanted to go.

      He was quite open about his religious beliefs...he just didn't cram it down people's throats in his proposals because he also understood how individual rights worked.

    2. CatoTheChipper   10 years ago

      Trump hated Reagan. Regarding Reagan's tax reform, Trump said, it was "one of the worst ideas in recent history."

      1. UCrawford   10 years ago

        Unsurprising. New York liberals like Trump usually despised Reagan because a) he wasn't from the East Coast, b) he wasn't an Ivy Leaguer, c) he didn't feel compelled to kiss up to East Coast demographics.

  33. Warty   10 years ago

    So, you know how I like to do the parody of the paranoid self-pitying yokel moron character? Well...it turns out that the character came to life. Sorry. I'm like, an evil Gepetto or something.

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    1. kbolino   10 years ago

      I'm not sure that's a great example (apart from the ALL CAPS) of your point.

    2. Swiss Servator   10 years ago

      (Immigration) Trial by Ordeal?

  34. R C Dean   10 years ago

    All the candidates will talk about his genius at cutting taxes but exactly none will talk about cutting spending, even though tax rates are much lower than they were in his day

    Top marginal income tax rate in 1988: 28.0%

    Top marginal income tax rate today: 39.6%.

    Care to try again, Nick?

  35. Ken Shultz   10 years ago

    If we ever get a President as "bad" as Ronald Reagan again, we'll be sooooooooooooo lucky.

    1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

      The nuance of a particular space of time dictates greatness. Reagan was decent due to the arrangement of the political and social ethos. Reagan might have actually sucked given different circumstances and he definitely sucked at the War on Drugs.

  36. Bill Dalasio   10 years ago

    Let me suggest that the GOP's Reagan fetish is not helping the party anymore. In fact, it is actively holding them back.

    Sorry, but this is a pretty silly suggestion.

    1. The GOP moving away from Reaganism, like moving away from Goldwaterism, pretty much consistently signals a bad turn of affairs for libertarianism in the Republican party. Reagan's rhetoric, if not always his actions, was particularly favorable to libertarianism.
    2. Strangely, I never hear urgings that the Democrats abandon their Kennedy "fetish". Kennedy died in 1963. Nick Gillespie wasn't yet a thing for a good chunk of 1963.
    3. Pro-growth, limited government, strong defense Republicanism is one of the few mixes that actually wins elections for the GOP. It isn't Reaganism that loses the GOP elections. It's abandoning it for Kutur War and cronyism.

    1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

      I presume the move away from Reagan in Gillespie's eyes is not to erase the memory of the man but merely to forge new and alternative ideological paths for a modern age composed of radically different environments which includes the complexity of the digital realms with its multi-tentacled aspects. Reagan was brilliant for his moment perhaps, but the modern moment is arriving at a profound apex where new visions can either fuck this thing up or vault America into the stratosphere of freedom and openness balanced finely against the backdrop of advanced governance.

      1. Bill Dalasio   10 years ago

        Point taken and respected, AC. I doubt Reagan would particularly mind the principles he espoused being updated for a different time (although it's not clear to me that the underlying issues have really changed that much). The problem I have is that, in the context of GOP politics, the contrast for Republicans isn't Reaganism versus some hypothetical perfect alternate. It's Reaganism versus different strains of idiotic statism. The GOP elements advocating the party "get beyond" Reaganism are guys like Santorum or Trump. To me, that isn't the path to moving into any stratosphere.

        My understanding of Reaganism (at least what I saw growing up) is that it essentially, as an ideological position. is the continuation of Goldwaterism. It's the notion that it isn't our government that is great, but our people who are great, and the key to any national greatness is for the government to just get the hell out of the way and let people work their magic. There's nothing in that that is essentially tied to the 1980s. As such, I have no problem with making that notion relevant to the 2010s. But, if that's what you're talking about, you're not really forging a new path, just making the same principles relevant to the facts on the ground.

        At least that's my $0.02.

        1. Long Woodchippers   10 years ago

          sounds good to me

          and Reagan was also not afraid to say what he believed.

  37. Spiny Norman   10 years ago

    ...and handed the White House to a sitting vice president for the first time in 150 years.

    So long, WH Taft. Nice knowing ya, I guess.

    1. Stephdumas   10 years ago

      Don't forget his son, Robert Taft.

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  39. Akira   10 years ago

    "How Ronald Reagan's Ghost Haunts the GOP"

    Reagan's ghost haunts the Democrat party as well. If you ever discuss politics with one of them, it's inevitable that they'll eventually bring Reagan into the conversation with this seething hatred in their voice.

    It's almost like there's a Godwin's Law variant: The longer you discuss politics with a Democrat, the more likely it is that they'll blame some problem today on something Reagan did over two decades ago.

    It's truly bizarre. It's like some religious cult and Reagan is the Satan figure. Or it's like 1984: they have to get their Two Minutes Hate in every day.

  40. Moridin   10 years ago

    ZOMG I love the Zardoz reference. I've only met a handful of people throughout my life that have even heard of the movie. I happen to love it, for it's pure obscurity and weirdness if nothing else. always remember, gun is good! penis is evil! ha ha

    1. UCrawford   10 years ago

      And of course for an extremely hirsute Sean Connery in a man-thong.

      1. Suicidy   10 years ago

        Please don't dredge that up.

  41. Bluwater   10 years ago

    'If it's old, fohgeddaboudit' ~ Nick

    Well doesn't that sound Obamaesque! As in, 'No, that fake scandal is old news, so let's talk about something else that's in our favor.'

    Sorry Precious, but "that was a long time ago" doesn't mean irrelevance. Plato, Socrates, and Jesus Christ [with or without the "H"] are still studied, we are still trying to figure out the pyramids, and Adolf Hitler is still evil. Rolling Stones are far older than Reagan's presidency, yet they can still pack out a house.

    Reagan coming in with an incredible majority, straightening out a mess that would have had Obama pissing his girly pants, and scaring the hell out of America's enemies just by walking in the room is the stuff of legends and will be relevant for a very long time. It just annoys you.... and I'm okay with that. Yet I think it is wonderfully special of you to take such an interest in the future success of Republican politics. I'm sure it's as much from the heart as recommendations from Democrats as to whom they are "really afraid to run against".

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