Updated: Ron Paul Endorses Son Rand as "Best Hope" to Lead Country
"Rand is the ONLY one in the race who is standing up for your Liberty, across the board," says former representative, presidential candidate.
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Should the son inherit the votes of the father? Ron Paul, the former congressman and presidential candidate who sparked a libertarian "revolution" during his last two bids for the White House, is endorsing his son, Sen. Rand Paul, for president.
In a letter that Paul campaign insiders say is "going out all over, early states, donors," Paul senior writes things such as:
Rand is the ONLY one in the race who is standing up for your Liberty, across the board….he is our best hope to restore liberty, limited government and the Bill of Rights and finally end the big spending status quo in Washington, D.C….
Remember, truth is treason in the empire of lies. And nowhere is that more true than when it comes to Washington, D.C. and their media mouthpieces.
Even where Rand and I do have minor differences of opinion, I would take Rand's position over any of his opponents' in both parties every time….
And there's this:
There is not one candidate who has run for president in my lifetime who can say they fully share my commitment to liberty, Austrian economics, small government, and following the Constitution, [more] than my son, Rand Paul.
That's why I have wholeheartedly endorsed him.
I know the media likes to play this little game where they pit us, or certain views, against each other.
Don't fall for it. They're trying to manufacture storylines at liberty's expense. You've spent years seeing how the media treated me. They aren't my friends and they aren't yours.
The full letter will be published publicly later today; we'll post the full text as soon as we get it.
Will Ron Paul's full-throated endorsement and call for support revive Rand Paul's slumping campaign? Certainly it should shake things up a bit. Ron Paul's fan base is, well, fanatical and there's no question that it's been a bit standoffish to the senator. This was due to a number of reasons, most of which were overblown in my opinion. Rand was too hawkish for some, if not a downright "neocon" (about the worst insult a Ron Paul supporter can hurl). Or he was too compromised by working with Mitch McConnell, or was too ambitious, or too successful, or whatever.
Ron Paul's imprimatur should silence a lot of the chatter. Whether it will really translate into fervor is an open question, but an interesting one in a presidential race that seems more interested in focusing on Donald Trump's tele-obstetrics and Bernie Sanders' protectionism to the exclusion of just about everything and everyone else.
As someone who is very sympathetic to Rand Paul and his candidacy, here's hoping that Ron Paul's public support will push the Kentucky senator to, as I put it a few weeks ago, "Go Libertarian or Go Home." Rand Paul has been at his most electrifying and popular precisely when he has been at his most libertarian: his filibuster against the confirmation of John Brennan at CIA; standing up to Obama's unconstitutional bombing of Libya and his attempts to go to war with Syria; saying that "we will find a place" for anyone who wants to come to America and work, rather than piling on the GOP contempt for immigrants; pushing sentencing reform and an end to the war on drugs; and the like.
As Ron Paul suggests in his endorsement letter, the country needs a candidate who will stand up for free minds and free markets, for libertarian values that include economic and social freedom, "across the board." One of the main reasons the president, Congress, and other members of the political class are held in such low esteem is precisely because they are viewed as unprincipled and opportunistic. We're hungry for a candidate that sticks to his or her guns out of principle, not to mention one who seems to have at least a weak grasp of reality. Rand Paul could be that candidate for the Republican Party.
Update (2.43pm): Dave Weigel of the Washington Post reports on the chatter the endorsement should end:
The headlines neatly tell the story [of Ron Paul's supposed wariness toward his son]. "Ron Paul's Passive-Aggressive Campaign Against Rand Paul." Rand Paul Has a Daddy Issue." "Like Father, Like Son? Not Exactly." Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has endeavored so much to distinguish his "libertarian-ish" views from his father's "voluntarist" politics that any snark from the paterfamilias generates a story. He'll joke that he's still looking at who to endorse; it will be reported like Saturn devouring his offspring.
There will be no snark this weekend. As Rand Paul heads out of the country for a medical mission to Haiti, Ron Paul will make a print and e-mail pitch to donors. It is his first such email on Rand Paul's behalf since the April 7 start of his presidential bid.
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It'd be pretty shitty if Ron DIDN'T endorse him...
Well I haven't heard whether or not Bill is endorsing Hillary
Zing.
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If I had a POS left-wing family member run for president I sure as HELL would not endorse or vote for them. (and I do have a few of those, lol)
But Bill is a fellow POS left winger.
Yeah, that would make Thanksgiving dinner kinda awkward. That being said, the endorsement could be helpful as a public declaration of how Rand is distinctly different than the rest of the field, which he is.
that would make Thanksgiving dinner kinda awkward
I'm thinking it's already at LEAST "awkward".
This would prolly make it "moar awkwarder", though.
On the other hand, if Ron Paul himself couldn't win the nomination, why would anyone assume his endorsement would help his son win it?
He needs his donors money. They aren't donating to him in large numbers. And Ted Cruz smells blood and is trying to pick them up.
I doubt my parents would endorse me. Maybe they would just to be polite. They started out as Kennedy Democrats and have drifted steadily left to the point where no Team Blue candidate can do anything bad ever. They still don't believe there is such a thing as a disposition matrix, but even if there were it's OK because they trust in the divine wisdom of Chocolate Nixon.
Dear Sir: I read your comment, got up from my chair, walked into the kitchen - where I stumbled upon the cup of coffee I had forgotten while puttering about - nuked it, then took a sip and looked out my back window to the yard here in sunny San Diego.
"That's your winner right there, ladies and gents, stop sending I any more entries." The I started cackling as I repeated "Chocolate Nixon" and "ho-lee shit" a few times at various intervals.
You win today's internet comment of the day award, at least in this household.
I don't know if you authored it originally, but thank you for that. I needed a chuckle. I've been much despondent over the current state of affairs and this just popped the bubble a bit.
The "n" on my keyboard also appears to have taken a brief hiatus somewhere in there.
Must be nice to have parents. 🙁
Rand Paul could be that candidate for the Republican Party.
Fine, but does the Republican party deserve Rand Paul?
Republican establishment fucks might use the term 'constitutional' a few times in a political career so how are these rabid suits packed with grandiose self-worshipping maelstroms with a plastic head on top going to grasp a constitutional reality they've had tied up like an unwanted retarded puppy in the basement?
Yeah. It's amazing that a party (republicans) can be so extremely hated by most of their voters, yet retain votes (and even majorities) because they appear to be the better of two evils.
"....going to grasp a constitutional reality they've had tied up like an unwanted retarded puppy in the basement?"
Rock on, AC!
Fun fact: if you print out one of Agile Cyborg's comments, roll it up, and smoke it, your sense of time will vanish, the ultraviolet spectrum will become visible, and you will hear a small voice ask "Would... you... like... to... meet... God?"
I am so going to try this....
CTRL+P
Now where's that damn lighter?
THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE CRACK PIPE!
Who'd win a wrestling match between Agile Cyborg and God?
It would never happen. God would look on Agile Cyborg, and be so overcome with love that he'd unleash the Rapture to call home the flock, and he and Agile would watch and do peyote. It would be beautiful.
Wrong. Agile Cyborg is God.
Agile Cyborg doesn't do peyote. Peyote does Agile Cyborg.
Cyborg because his manager would find a way to sabotage God with a steel chair outside the ring while the ref was knocked out.
+1 Iron Sheik
Oh, shit! Imma hafta take back my earlier award to our Last American hero for best internet comment of the day for "Chocolate Nixon" (Sorry, dude!) You guys are crushing today.
AC - I enjoy your posts from the outer reaches of the cosmos. I think it probably would be fun to party with you, but I'm not climbing any trees and I'm decidedly (and inextricably) inclined to the fairer sex.
Citizen X - killing it.
Small government rhetoric is just a means to an end, an end that involves stuffed pockets and bigger government.
Outstanding comment, AC (no surprise coming from you).
Amen, brudda
This, Ron. This. Since when are fathers and sons not expected to disagree on certain things?
Was hoping he'd come out for Sanders. 🙁
Sanders is only like Ron is his willingness to be unpopular to make a point he believes in. Otherwise, Socialism puts faith in the State, not in individuals. While Sanders shares some of the personal character of Ron, their policy positions are mostly polar opposites.
Excellent, Ron. Even if it's a desperate lifeline to a foundering campaign, this is a good move.
Now, if you'd only talk to your boy about his hair...
The hair is genetic. So it's half Ron's fault.
I'm coming around to Donald Trump's candidacy. Who could better than someone who has declared bankruptcy four times to handle America's insolvency?
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!
He's absolutely perfect for this shitpile of what's left of a once-great pretty good halfway decent not-too-bad country.
If you don't mind him ending up with a 20% ownership stake after it's all said and done.
If Paul doesn't get the nomination I'm all in for Triump. Fuck'em, I say, fuck'em all.
"Twenty percent?! That's for losers! I want at least an 80% stake - that would be 'uuuuuuuuuuuge."
/Trump Voice
I voted for Ron Paul both times he ran as a Republican (I was barely out of diapers when he ran as a Libertarian), but I have never trusted his son farther than I can spit marbles, and I still don't. I think he tips his hat toward the libertarian camp just enough to secure their vote, but I can't escape the feeling that a President Rand Paul would be no less a neoconservative than any other Republican we've seen in office the past three decades.
I might vote for Paul in the primaries, but I am hoping there will be a third-party candidate upon whom I can bestow my vote without walking away feeling slimy.
Then again, I might vote for Donald Trump because he's the candidate the GOP deserves. The Schadenfreude from seeing him win the nomination would be delicious.
I had the opportunity to talk with Rand one on one for a couple of hours recently. He's not the neocon you think he is....unless he is a REALLY good liar even with a couple of glasses of wine in him.
I attended an early-money Rand fundraiser back in 2009, just before he ran for Senate. It was a fairly small gathering, and Rand talked with everyone there. I thought Rand Paul was genuine from both my brief conversation with him and his conversation with others at attendance. (By genuine, I mean a Constitutionalist, laissez-faire, limited-government type, not a pure libertarian that can pass every litmus test.)
Indeed, he would have to be a liar on the order of Bill Clinton. I always knew Clinton was lying, of course, but his politics were unappealing to me, so I was naturally skeptical. However, he was a talented, convincing liar to moderates, liberals, socialists, and other varieties of Democrats and independents. I'm extremely cynical about politicians in general, but I can't say whether a phony libertarian liar of the order of Bill Clinton could convince me.
I won a lunch in the Senate dining room with Rand Paul. There were only four people there, me, Senator Paul, his then communications person, and my guest (a conservatarian Republican). His staffer pointed out to him that I'd run for Congress as a Libertarian and he teasingly asked me why Eleanor Holmes Norton was still in office. I retorted that I got 6% in DC and Romney only got 7% so his party wasn't doing much better. I then shared my old joke that I wanted the LP to persuade Marion Barry to run for Mayor, since he didn't pay his taxes, must believe in legal drugs and "sex work," and as the clincher favored school choice. Rand , slightly horrified and not realizing I was joking, said "Just because we believe things should be legal doesn't mean we think you should do them.". He said "we."
Exactly my point. Just don't let it get out until after the nomination process has run its course. Okay?
Drunk Rand Paul would easily win the millennial vote. Get him downing Jager Bombs before the CNN debate.
Gary Johnson maybe?
Rand is fooling you by dressing his policy positions up to seem more appealing to neocons. If you read closely, he's not a neocon. He just tries harder to fit in with them than his dad did.
THERE IS NO SPOON, NEOCON
If he's willing to diddle neocons to stay on their good side, it's hard not to wonder to what extent he's diddling libertarians too.
It's diddlin' all around!
It's Friday. I want a diddle.
You'll have to wait until Rand gets back from Haiti.
Hey diddle diddle with the voters in the middle and the Trump ran away with the Spoon.
I see no evidence he is trying to appeal to neocons. Socons, sure, but not neocons.
It's cons, all the way down.
What about Comic cons? Any diddlin at Comic con?
Don't know. What happens at Comic con stays at Comic con.
Sure.
You see all the cosplayers, then go up to your room and diddle yourself.
Fair statement, but wrong. Every person has their core beliefs and principles that they will use to guide them to make decisions for themselves and others for whom they are responsible. While it is true that our political process has the important requirement of appealing to enough people to become an electable candidate, there is no reason to assume that they can't or won't adhere to their core when they govern. So the true question becomes, "Is this a person who has principles with which I agree and also has the character to adhere to them when governing." I have had the opportunity to determine that with Rand Paul the answer to both questions is "yes".
A very close friend of mine - hardcore libertarian and probably more towards minarchist - sat down with Rand recently for a meeting. His take was that Rand is "a man of principle - that's why he'll never get elected. He's a really good guy." Also, his impression is that Rand is "simmering angry" when he discusses politics candidly.
He knows for sure the system is broken and fucked. He's one man looking at a mountain of jackassery and thinking, "where the fuck do I start?" Of course, you have to have some element of the Fatal Conceit to believe you're going to become President of These United States and fix it. I mean, think about that for a second.
But fuck me, there is no one even close to Rand Paul anywhere in sight with a realistic chance of winning and anything remotely approaching his "liberty index" if I can coin a phrase. Libertarians, Independents, and Moderates alike - anyone with a fucking ounce of common sense and some whiff of liberty still in their guts - needs to vote for this guy.
Fuck the ideological purity test bullshit. It's this guy or a field of fucking statist/socialist zombies, pick your color, blue or red.
Citation needed. What makes you think he's "no less a neoconservative than any other Republican"? His opposition to the Iran deal - many details of which are still secret and lifts the sanctions immediately without requiring any proof from the Iranians that they're not seeking a nuke first? Or is it his support for airstrikes against the head choppers, ISIS, while still wanting the Obama administration to get authorization from Congress first, as the constitution requires?
He's not as non-interventionist as his dad, I get that. But his dad wasn't able to win with his views. Plus Rand's still ~1,000 times better on foreign policy than the other Republicans running for president, and ~1,000,000 better than them on civil liberties (particularly on NSA spying and criminal justice reform). Don't let the perfect be the enemy of good enough because there's no such thing as a perfect libertarian, especially when it comes to either of the 2 TEAMS.
Could you plese define what you think neoconservative means?
All too often it seems to be used as a catch-all for "political positions I do not like".
Rand Paul isn't a neoconservative. Yes, he's not a principled non-interventionist. He's made that clear. Paul, himself, has said he's a realist.
Assuming that's true (and there's no political advantage in calling yourself one) that means there's enough common ground for him to work with non-interventionists on foreign policy.
This is why I hate Paultards, and I am not the only one.
Breaking: Father endorses son in shocking and unforeseen move
Jean-Marie Le Pen endorsed her daughter too. But only the first time she ran.
his daughter
His grandmother endorses him too, as being the most handsome and having such good manners
Ron Paul is also running these ads on prime time TV
So, he's basically saying Rand Paul is going to be the best leader...in a country which is going down the toilet and facing utter doom and collapse due to currency implosion that simply can't be stopped
This is why the only REAL choice is
Almanian for President - 2016
I Probably Won't Make It Any Worse
And my son's not running for any public office.
I am Almanian, and YOU'RE GODDAMNED RIGHT I approve this message.
If you win, will you still appoint Agile Cyborg to the position of Poet Laureate? If so, I'm sold.
No way. Who gives a fuck about the Poet Laureate? Agile Cyborg for Secretary of State. Let him be the face America puts forth to the nations of the Earth.
SHUT THE FUCK UP, CITIZEN. I've already chosen a young man as Sec State who attended my Daughter #2's wedding, and charmed the socks off the evil bitch in the house next to the one we rented on the beach. When I saw his skill at beguiling that harpy, I said, "Verily, THERE stands the man who will be my Secretary of State!**"
Agile Cyborg absolutely will be Poet Laureate, because then he won't have to waste time attending funerals and can concentrate on his work. And fucking.
**this is a true story
Well, you just lost my vote. I assumed you were running as a hardcore libertarian. But what kind of libertarian would endorse the position of poet laureate, with an annual salary of $35,000?
Who said he's getting paid?
WAY TO ASSUME TOO MUCH, L!!
Poor AC - dude's already been conscripted and we haven't even gotten to the bottom of the thread. 🙁
But I'm absolutely in support of this cabinet position in Almanian's soon-to-be regime.
Bah. That video was posted by Stansberry Research, a firm that trades exclusively in the currency of fearmongering. I wonder what they paid him to appear in their materials.
" That video was posted by Stansberry Research, a firm that trades exclusively in the currency of fearmongering"
bah? more like Duh.
...and he's their principal spokesperson and salesperson. Do you want to learn more?
My point was that he's spent equal time endorsing Tinfoil Hats, Backyard Bunkers, and Gold Bars for retirees instead of 401Ks... as he does the theoretical next President of the United States
Gotta make some money on that Alex Jones hustle, G.
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Ron? Is that you??
He just detonated a money bomb.
+1 Call NOW!!
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Ron asking me to support Rand, is like Rand asking me to support Romeny! HAH! Too soon?
Way, way, WAY too soon.
Needz more yard-sign polls first.
/Rove
In other news it was discovered that Kim Jong il endorsed his son, Kim Jong un
OT: this morning our local paper's editorial board asked the hypothetical question: "why is Donald trump-- an open misogynist who doesn't have a recognizable platform or conservative political ideology-- basically running 15% above his nearest rival?"
[jumps up and down] ooooh, oooh, pick me.. pick me for this one.
I'm sure Gary Johnson will be very disappointed to hear Ron Paul has never heard of him or his 2012 campaign. Maybe it's time for Ron to retire from politics and get an icepack on the bump he surely must have gotten on his head.
WTF does that loser GayJay have to do with anything? He makes W.A.R.look good.
Yeah, Rand Paul is our best hope for leading the country . . . too bad we don't have 100,000,000 Libertarians in the electorate.
It irks me to see our 1988 Presidential nominee write "I would take Rand's position over any of his opponents' in both parties every time." **BOTH** parties. How quickly the old man forgets there are more than two parties.
THIS!
I get the guy supporting his son, but it irks me how many "Libertarians" have forgotten the saying: "The only wasted vote, is a vote cast for a candidate you don't truly believe in".. too many seem to be succumbing to that old rouse about voting for the lesser evil now that there's a sort-of-sometimes libertarian in the GOP.
There have been those who have been active in the LP who get tired of losing political races and backing losing political candidates, who decide that they'd rather sacrifice some principles and/or support someone who only agrees 62% of the time, in order to feel that little thrill of being on the "winning side". They'd rather back a winner who agrees with them not a heck of a lot, than be with a politically consistent loser. The problem is that the positions they usually toss overboard in order to get on the winning team are usually the really *important* positions.
"How quickly the old man forgets there are more than two parties."
No shit Sherlock!
Politics1 lists "The Big Three Third Parties" Constitution, Green and Libertarian. (in alphabetical order) and 31 USA Political Parties that have fielded or endorsed candidates.
Independence Party (Jesse Ventura), Light Party (Da Vid, M.D., Wholistic Physician, Human Ecologist & Artist), Modern Whig Party (Nearly all of the party founders and state chairs are Iraq/Afghan War veterans.) Twelve Visions Party (The party...says it "reveals the 3000-Year-Old Secret brought to you by the Twelve Visions Party National Executive Committee.")
http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm
Also listed are 10 "(p)arties that have yet to field or endorse any candidates for office."
Obi-Ron: That boy is our last hope.
I wonder if Rand has a long lost twin sister.
He devoured his twin in utero.
Rand Paul blew his chance. It's too bad he ran such an inept campaign.
Suggested Alt-text for the top photo. "Since your daddy can't do it, pick a winner Dandy Randy!"
Right now I think Rand is trying too hard to be a Republican. If he was a bit more outspoken about the things that made his dad so popular with libertarians, we'd all be better served. The Republican establishment will never let him get the nomination anyway. And unfortunately, Trump has managed to corral many if not most of the truly disenchanted Republican voters.
But I really doubt Trump is going to be polling at 30% still in February. The old adage "don't peak too early" applies to everybody. If people say it's true for Rand, it has to be true for Donald. But I think Cruz is probably going to get the Trump supporters more than Rand will. And the last two standing will be Cruz and Kasich in somewhat of a shock going down the last stretch.
Agreed. I don't know who will ultimately be the Rs candidate, but I'm not sure I care. Our system is so badly broken that any of the "mainstream" candidates will result in a continuation of the pigsty that we have currently.
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Yes, of course Rand Paul is. However, like his father, finding a way to break the private two-party (one headed) system that proactively controls all elections, in my opinion, is impossible. The corruption is too deeply imbedded. Too many individuals have traded their independence for false security and a payoff, from the welfare-bound and on up the payoff food chain.
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Heeeere's Nick, brave posthumous Rand-stabber, pushing another mystical Republican antiabortion activist as somehow related to the libertarian party. But leaving aside whether women qualify for individual rights, both Ron Paul and his boy have better voting records on libertarian issues than their ku-klux comrades in the religious State movement. In order to get their hands back in the till, Republicans must shed their reputation as an ignorant prohibitionist lynch mob, and the Pauls are dragging them forward toward the 20th Century. But both are still members of a party that is 99.66% warmongering, prohibitionist looter collectivists even if we lie and say Rand is libertarian. What looks like a party gradually backing away from robbery and murder is in fact a soft machine reaching a hand toward the till, with an ankle still held fast by the cold dead fingers of the Prohibition Party and the Anti-Saloon League.
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I like Rand. I connect with him on being a voracious reader and seeker of new opinion. His pursuit of new constituencies in the electorate is admirable. If it was him over Hillary, hell yes I'd go with Rand.