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A School Cop Handcuffed an 8-Year-Old Boy's Arms Behind His Back. That's Not Okay.

Outrageous and evil.

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One of the worst examples of a school treating mild misbehavior as dangerous criminal conduct comes to us from the American Civil Liberties Union, which has filed suit against a Kentucky school that allowed an officer to handcuff an 8-year-old boy and 9-year-old girl.

I use the word handcuff, but the better description would be shackle. The boy, at least, had his biceps restrained, rather than his hands, as is evident in this video. The cop—a school resources officer for Covington Independent Public Schools—can be seen telling the kid "you don't get to swing at me like that." Once shackled, the boy cries and complains that the restraints are hurting him.

Both children suffer from learning disabilities, according to The Huffington Post. In the ACLU's view, that makes this an affront to the Americans with Disabilities Act:

"As a result of being subjected to unnecessary and excessive handcuffing, Plaintiffs experienced pain, fear, and emotional trauma, and an exacerbation of their disabilities," the lawsuit reads. The complaint alleges violations of the U.S. Constitution and Americans with Disabilities Act.

Colonel Pat Morgan, a spokesman for the Kenton County Sheriff's Office, told The Huffington Post that he was waiting for their attorneys to review the lawsuit before providing comment.

I don't know whether the officer's conduct violates the Americans with Disabilities Act. It does appear to violate Kentucky law, which specifies that restraints shouldn't be used on children, according to CNN.

But such treatment of a child is cruel, and wrong, regardless of whether the child has a learning disability, and regardless of what the law actually states. No 50-pound boy is enough of a physical threat to a police officer that shackling his biceps behind his back is justified. School isn't prison, and children aren't inmates.

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  1. Put cops in a grade school, and they’ll still act like cops. Would you expect any thing different?

  2. School isn’t prison, and children aren’t inmates.

    I would beg to differ.

    1. Gah, beat me to it.

    2. Let’s see…

      1. Special ugly buildings to keep people off the streets, with locking doors.

      2. Timed eating with food people don’t like.

      3. Scheduled time for outdoors (but not enough)

      4. Dim lighting

      5. No one wants to be there.

      6. Dress codes.

      1. 7. Arrested if you aren’t there when you’re supposed to be.
        8. Overly aggressive guards, apparently.

      2. I liked school. I enjoyed most of my classes, hanging out with friends, and it was bright and there was no dress code. I guess those things aren’t for everybody but sheesh you guys overstate the case sometimes.

        1. I enjoyed my public school experiences as well.

          But I will say that the public schools in Los Angeles are built like prisons.

          1. I went to junior high and high school in L.A., and there was definitely an “institutional” feel to the buildings.

          2. They put up the fences the year after I graduated. I’d like to say I had nothing to do with that, but I’d be lying.

            1. Probably to keep you out.

            2. The junior high school I went to had an LAPD officer, Officer Webster, on staff. I think he was there primarily as part of the DARE program, but he may have just been the school resource officer or whatever. This was in the ’80s, so I can’t quite remember. Really nice guy – quiet, low key, always smiling and laughing, always chatting with students, never acted like a cop.

              One day, Webster was showing a class his .38 service revolver (again, ’80s). Evidently he had done a poor job of ensuring the weapon was clear, so when he aimed it between two rows of students toward the back wall of the classroom and pulled the trigger, it went “bang.” No one was hurt, and Webster somehow kept his job, but the students teased him mercilessly about it afterward (which he always tooks in stride). Funny thing is, I’d rather have a guy like that – incompetent with a gun though he may be – than a petty little tyrant like the clown in the video working in my child’s school.

              1. It’s even better picturing the gun discharging a little flag with the word “bang” on it, and he’s teased because he wasn’t allowed to carry a real gun.

            3. Same situation with my HS. Might have been 2 years after, but I’m thinking it was the very next year. The folks who were in lower classes my senior year told me about the fences not long after I got out.

          3. I’ve never been completely sure that that was intentiknal design instead of the usual result of doctrinaire modernist architecture.

        2. Well, then, you went to a nice high school. My high school was locked down (i.e. closed campus) and every minute of every day was scheduled and monitored. And this was a school in a very wealthy community in suburban CT.

          1. People’s Republic of Connecticut…

            1. Don’t get me started ….

          2. Enh, I was locked in too but considering I went to school in the ghetto, that was probably a good thing. And yes, I had classes every period so you could say every minute was scheduled but well… that is kind of what school is for. I suppose such an environment is not for every child but at least it gets you used to real life…

            1. Huh. In my “real life”, I am not monitored and checked on every minute. It would be much better to allow high schools students some kind of incremental freedom in order to prepare them for actual real life, where you are allowed outside and are allowed to eat a candy bar and soda and are allowed to show up late once in a while.

              1. Did your school district name start with “Ri” or “Gr”, Kristen?

                1. Yes, one of those 🙂

                  1. Sadly, know both districts pretty well. Both my kids chafe under the regime of one of them. Nephews (who have been better indoctrinated) incarcerated in the other.

                    The problem is, of course, that the majority of the parents in the districts are full-service enablers who perpetuate the crushing of individuality and risk-taking when the kids are paroled for the afternoon.

                    And then, no matter how distasteful the situation is, I know we have it ‘better’ than anywhere else within 50 miles.

                    1. Luckily I only went to high school there, though elementary and middle school in VT was probably similar – I just didn’t notice it as much. Plus, it’s VT. Even my parents were bored in CT.

                    2. who perpetuate the crushing of individuality and risk-taking when the kids are paroled for the afternoon

                      I also grew up in the 80s, so while time inside school was regimented, outside of school I was free to do whatever the hell I wanted as long as I got home for supper and did my homework.

              2. Huh. In my “real life”, I am not monitored and checked on every minute.

                The NSA would like a word…

                1. So would your company’s IT department (if you’re posting from work).

              3. That’s what college is for.

        3. During part of my elementary and high school years in public school, I went to a couple districts that were pretty rough. They did have dress codes back then. I was told to get a haircut a few times, but like everyone else, I just ignored it. I’m trying to think if that was during or after the Jurassic, but it was a long time ago I can’t remember. If you were a boy, you had to learn to fight or be constantly bullied. There was almost no way to avoid the occasional fist fight if you wanted your life to be bearable. Outside of that, it wasn’t that bad. In high school, there was always weed around and never once did police come in with dogs and start busting people, although the school authorities were well aware of the weed. In fact, I never once saw a cop on school grounds.

    3. In fairness it might be the one prison to which prisoners are sentenced uniformly.

      1. They all really get the
        *sunglasses*
        book thrown at them

        1. That’ll
          *narrows gaze behind sunglasses*
          teach ’em.

          1. Hopefully
            *sunglasses*
            They’ll learn their lesson

    4. We’re all milk cows on the human ranch. The children are being properly educated on the facts of life.

      Most of us are free range milk cows, but when we get unruly, or just attract the attention of the ranchers when they’re feeling cranky, it’s off to the box.

  3. Hey, at least the kids weren’t Tasered or shot.

    1. Not yet. I can bet the police unions are trying to finagle some kind of authority to fire on people whenever they want. Soon, they will be Judges, not cops.

  4. This story is horrible, so I don’t mean to make light, but I’d just like to say that I am thankful Robby Soave is here to explain to me exactly how I should feel about things.

    A School Cop Handcuffed an 8-Year-Old Boy’s Arms Behind His Back. That’s Not Okay.

    Thanks Robby. I would have been totally in favor of it otherwise.

    The cop?a school resources officer for Covington Independent Public Schools?can be seen telling the kid “you don’t get to swing at me like that.” Once shackled, the boy cries and complains that the restraints are hurting him.

    At least the cop made it home safely.

    1. You’re welcome. I appreciate your awareness that you are reading an opinion blog, ie., people telling you how to feel about things.

      1. Hmmm … I’m not sure how I feel about this new revelation.

        1. I’m here to help, Mr. Repair.

          You feel . . . good about it. Comforted, in the warm embrace of libertarianism.

          1. Libertarianism has embraces?

            I’m not sure how I feel about this new revelation.

            1. “Not Okay.”

            2. BAD TOUCH!

            3. More like a “Caress of Steel”, really.

              1. Tentacles?

                1. Testicles.

                  1. Sorry your mom blew up, Ricky.

    2. Cops need to be taught not to handcuff children.

      1. Cop needs to be required to explain himself to the mother. With his arms shackled behind his back.

  5. White kid, white cop. Apologies all around. Down the memory hole.

  6. School isn’t prison, and children aren’t inmates.

    Citation mf needed

    1. Yeah, this doesn’t jibe with my public school experience AT ALL.

    2. Well my school had a barbed wire fence around the playground. The windows were barred. The doors were always locked. Cameras in the hallways. And on one of the occasions that I skipped school. An armed law enforcement officer came to my house with his gun drawn, called me on the phone and threatened to use a SWAT team to kick in my door if I didn’t come out peaceably to be returned to my “school”. But yeah, totally not a prison and I was totally not an inmate…

      1. Well my school had a barbed wire fence around the playground. The windows were barred. The doors were always locked.

        Wait, what the fuck? Where did you go to school?

        1. Small town in Ohio. A few years ago they took the bars off the windows because it turns out that no school shooter in the history of school shooters has gone in through the windows and parents started complaining that their kids felt like it was a prison. Mind you they didn’t change any of their policies, just removed the bars so it would appear less like a prison.

          1. ” just removed the bars so it would appear less like a prison.”

            Well, appearances are all that matter to the small minds that run public schools.

            1. Wait, was this Anderson Township? Outside of Cincinnati? Because the high school there looked exactly like a prison from the outside.

        2. Yeah. And when? It’s been a while for me, so I’m sure things have changed, but we had no cops, no locked doors or fences and no truancy enforcement by police. But we did still compare it to a prison.

          1. Some schools are worse than others. I did my time in the 90’s and early 2000’s. They were getting ready to build a newer school when Columbine happened and our school district just lost their shit.

            In fact a friend of mine who is a great artist drew a picture of Bart Simpson holding a rifle, a direct copying from an actual episode of The Simpsons. The school found it, interrogated him and found out that he was planning on giving me the picture as a gift (note I didn’t commission this artwork). Then they suspended us both for two weeks and threatened to expel us if we ever “threatened” our classmates again. Eventually my parents got an attorney involved and the suspension was withdrawn, but from then on I became public enemy number one and I spent a lot of time in “the hole”, a broom closet that they locked unruly students in. I get sent there for everything ranging from talking back to a teacher or not turning my homework in on time. These were my formative years as a libertarian.

            1. Yeah, I was in 10th grade(IIRC) when Columbine happened and everybody at my school lost their shit too. It was especially great for me since I dressed in all black half the time and had a long black leather jacket(not s trench coat, just longer than most). Oh, and I’d already gotten in trouble for fighting a couple of times.

              1. Columbine was basically the Red Scare for school systems, except that the Red Scare was actually based on some legitimate concerns.

              2. It was great for me! I suddenly got a lot of friends after Columbine and felt like a normal person.

            2. +1 Cooler King

  7. “School isn’t prison, and children aren’t inmates.”

    I don’t know about Kentucky, but in some states “students’ rights” are developed to a point of formality that they may as well process the kids through the real-world justice system.

    Plus if the school officials are worried about getting sued for daring to touch a child to discipline him, then they may as well subcontract the disciplinary function to cops who are used to dealing with suits.

    At least in this case the shackled student is a person of paleness, so we can be spared talk of how The System has it in for African-American boys, etc.

  8. Appropriate responses to a child having a tantrum is the subject matter here. Well, when my 50lb son loses his shit, I put him in a half-nelson. It’s an amazingly effective hold at preventing him from headbutting me in the face. My other arm then wraps around trapping his free arm against his torso. I do this b/c: 1. my wife has declared our house a smack/spank-free zone, 2. he would break property or hit my wife if left free.

    I’ve never seriously considered shackling my son but I understand the impulse. Perhaps this police officer comes from a harder childhood than my own.

    1. At least he has Dad to teach him proper behavior. He ought to be grateful for it later.

      1. /absolutely serious, non-sarc

          1. ha ha

            1. not sarcastic

    2. Yeah, sometimes you do need to restrain kids. But handcuffs around the upper arms is just unnecessarily cruel. Sounds like the cop was more interested in his authoritah than in reasonably controlling the situation.

      1. Everyone knows you use zip ties for an informal arrest.

      2. Agreed. I wonder why he didn’t put them on his wrists. And did the kid only take one swing and the cop escalated to restraints prematurely?

        1. It appears that the cuffs are too big for the kid’s wrists. As mentioned above, seems like the time for zip ties.

          1. Or you could just not tie up a child.

          2. And when cuffs are too big for the child’s wrist, that should’ve told the officer something about his actions. But of course he’s cop, so in all likelihood he’s a sociopath.

    3. What, no Stone Cold Stunner or People’s Elbow? Come on, man!

      1. also, a nelson’s a legit technique.

        1. Just don’t do the Father Nelson…

      2. Should be a sleeper hold in honor of Rowdy Roddy.

        1. I have come to chew bubble gum and handcuff little children…and I am ALLLL out of bubble gum.

          1. somebody reads xkcd?

            1. I do, but I also saw that movie about a dozen times and still love it.

              They Live for all you non-cultured juvenile blusterers.

    4. I got this as a teenager once when I was acting the fool and my dad got sick of it: O Soto Gari

      He was a cop, as a matter of fact, but he relied mostly on looking quietly terrifying.

      My daughter’s two months old so she’s not so much of a physical threat (although I have high hopes), but in the past I’ve used a variation of this to put large dogs on their backs: Single Pick

      1. I found this to be good for teen-agers.

  9. In other news, Spain listened to what the Germans were saying and now their economy is starting to boom.

    Spain’s economy is growing faster than any of Europe’s big economies. The International Monetary Fund forecast Spanish growth at 3.1 per cent this year and 2.5 per cent in 2016, about double the average of the 19 euro zone countries. Of course, the centre-right government of Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy is taking most of the credit for the turnaround, citing the success of the labour and banking reforms and the fiscal tightening. “Seeing what is happening to others right now, one has to say: It was worth it,” he said in a recent radio interview.

    Ireland’s economy is also surging ahead, with year-over-year growth in the first quarter at 6.5 per cent. Portugal is recovering, too, though much more slowly, with expected growth of 1.6 per cent this year. Italy is finally out of recession, if only barely. The standout laggard is Greece.

    Well that’s weird. The country that continues to lag is the one that keeps trying to fight the austerity measures. I’m sure that’s a coincidence.

    It’s also laughable that 3.1% growth in a middle-income country is now considered absolutely tremendous by European standards.

    1. Furthermore:

      Nick Greenwood, an analyst at Afi, an economics consultancy in Madrid, said Spain has a highly leveraged national balance sheet, meaning that even small improvements in the financial conditions can produce outsized benefits. Greece’s net international investment position is sharply negative ? foreign liabilities exceed foreign assets by about 100 per cent of gross domestic product. Factors such as much lower debt-servicing costs have lifted Spain’s growth rate at a faster pace than it did in less leveraged economies.

      So Greece’s debt servicing is a massive drag. Who could have seen that coming?

      1. 10 Euros says that in 10 years, we’ll be having the exact same conversation about Spain that we just had.

        PIGS never learn.

        1. PIGS never learn. Thought we were off topic.

        2. So which of Italy or Ireland will learn? I should note that you’re a racist either way.

      2. Let’s not forget that the following ” … small declines in financial conditions can produce outsized losses” is also true.

        In the case of leveraged investments, the loss can be all of, or indeed, MORE than all of the capital invested.

        Arguably, a sovereign nation shouldn’t be participating in derivatives, but that’s probably the boring old white guy in me speaking, and let’s face it, I’m not an economist, so what the fuck would I know.

    2. Spain is 32 of 187 in per capita GDPby PPP according to the IMF, in between New Zealand and Israel. I don’t think that qualifies as middle income, but to each his own.

      1. The 22% unemployment gets your attention, however.

  10. STOP WITH THE FUCKING CLICKBAIT TITLES ROBBY THEY’RE NOT OK

    1. WARTY GETS MAD AT SOAVE; SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!

      1. SOAVE CRUSHED! WARTY ASKS WHO’S NEXT?

        1. SOAVE’S HAIR IS MUSSED – WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

    2. This… isn’t… even… clickbait…

      1. WATCH ROBBY SOAVE DESTROY IDIOT COMMENTER

        1. Warty

      2. I see we’ve made you mad.

        I’m sorry. That’s not okay.

        You’re still my favorite Robby, even though your headlines make me giggle.

        1. Not mad, but sheesh. Y’all preferred when every headline on the site was “Another Isolated Incident,” huh?

          1. It really is evergreen.

          2. It’s us, Soave. If we didn’t have something to poke at, we’d fill the comments with JLaw nudes.

            1. I’m waiting

            2. I’m waiting

            3. Don’t forget about Emily Ratjkowski’s Fappening pics!

              1. Hey, that’s sexist.

                How about some Schlick Bait for once?

                1. Or another Jezebel ick bait.

                  1. The blood cheese of internet fishing?

                2. Have you not seen any of Jesse’s postings of random athletes he wants to bone?

                3. Hey, that’s sexist.

                  I had to google ‘jlaw’ to see that it refers to somebody other than Jude Law.

          3. Y’all preferred when every headline on the site was “Another Isolated Incident,” huh?

            Oh, now we’re all the same here, huh?!? You sit up there in your ivory tower and all us scum down here look the same, is that what you’re saying?

            1. I think we can all agree Robby is a racist against commenters.

              1. *nods in agreement smugly*

              2. Yeah, fuck him, what are we talking about?

              3. Unless you have a masters from Columbia, you’re not allowed to critique the Suave’s work!

          4. No, Robby. Those headlines suck too. But seriously, think about it. Is tagging “That’s Not Okay” to the end of the headline really necessary? Do you think that many of the people that visit your site and read your magazine won’t already draw that conclusion on their own?

            1. This, treating us like the average Buzzfeed list reader is pretty insulting.

              1. pretty insulting

                I’m just not sure to who.

            2. “No, Robby. Those headlines suck too””

              No, they didn’t.

              They were a way Balko created an awareness of the monotonousness with which police shot unarmed ‘suspects’ then dismissed the incidents as ‘unusual’ when they were anything but

              It had a point to it. Robby’s awareness of that particular brand that balko created is a sign of its very success.

              By contrast, the ‘nanny-poo-poo’ headlines are a boring, generational rhetorical tic.

          5. “Y’all preferred when every headline on the site was “Another Isolated Incident,” huh?”

            This is “Punching Up” and is Not Okay

          6. Y’all preferred when every headline on the site was “Another Isolated Incident,” huh?

            What do you mean “you people”?

            1. What do YOU mean, “what do you mean, ‘you people'”?

              1. What do you mean “What do YOU mean, “what do you mean, ‘you people'”?

                1. write this in haskell to take advantage of recursion.

    3. Cop uses this One Weird Trick to subdue 50 lb. child!

      1. Small child takes a swing at a cop, and you’ll easily believe what happened next!

      2. Good thing the kid didn’t have a cigarette that he could use as a weapon!

    4. Fifteen Ways To Piss Off Australopithecus Wartyi – You Won’t Believe Number Six

  11. School isn’t prison,

    Well, there is your mistake right there.

  12. Whaaaaaat the fuck.

    What is the cop’s major malfunction?

    1. He seems to have an eating disorder, for starters. Probably diabetes as well.

  13. No 50-pound boy is enough of a physical threat to a police officer

    Given that cops think a 12 lb. schnauzer is a serious and imminent threat to their life, I don’t think a 50 lb. boy really seems out of the question…

    1. They don’t kill dogs because they feel threatened. They do it to be mean. Same thing here. The cop wasn’t threatened by the kid. He was simply being mean. The boilerplate they put in their reports is just that: boilerplate.

  14. But seriously. Fuck the pigs and fuck public school and fuck teachers.

    1. ^THIS x eleventy billion.

      1. People still have AOL email addresses? Jesus, do you still churn your own butter too?

        1. I bet he is typing from an Apple IIe!

          1. Just saw a headline: “cruising the Internet with my TRS-80”

            1. Looking for a support group for polio survivors.

  15. Outrageous and evil.

    You forgot the phrase, and nothing else will happen.

  16. School isn’t prison, and children aren’t inmates.

    That’s not how I felt during my 13 years of incarceration in the public school system.

    1. UH…including kindergarten, I hope?

  17. That’s Not Okay.

    Robby, are you auditioning for the open spots at Gawker?

    1. The Gawker version of this headline would read:

      “Young White Dudebro Gets a Taste of Injustice; Whines Like a Bitch”

    2. I think he would’ve used “problematic”…

      1. Gawker editors like to use the phrase “not okay” when they condescendingly explain why the behaviors of a certain person/group are unacceptable without having to entertain any debate on the subject.

        Coincidentally It’s also the way that kindergarten teachers tell their student’s not to pick their nose or hit the other kids.

        1. I refuse to give Gawker any clicks, so that was ignorance on my part. “Problematic” seems to be a big one going around the SJW crowd.

        2. Gawker literally has an advice column called ‘Thatz not okay.’

          1. Literally OMG

        3. Picking your nose is not okay? Pfft.

          1. *wipes finger on trash can and looks around innocently*

    3. No, you’re thinking of ENB who’s really going to the extra mile to polish up her portfolio for the Jezzy editors.

      1. polish up her portfolio

        This is why…

      2. I haven’t ever seen ENB be other than interesting, thorough, and entertaining in her writing. Of course, I’m also not the sort to take opinions I disagree with as a personal insult.

        Robby is usually solid too, but this headline feels like it’s adopting a bad aspect of condescending lefty commentary.

        1. Agreed, I have tons of respect for ENB’s writing, because it’s usually not an exercise in seeing how big of a conclusion she can jump to without support *cough*Shikha*cough*

        2. I generally track with Robbie’s ultimate point but he often uses the tropes and buzzwords of the progs to get to that point. And I don’t see how you can read ENB’s Abortion Post o’ the Day today and not see it as exactly what you’re saying by “bad aspect of lefty commentary”. She actually spouts some nonsense about “lack of access to contraception”. Seriously. The whole thing was steeped in Jezziness.

      3. Keep the Polish out of your portfolio.

  18. Please refrain from using clickbaity titles. It makes the magazine look like Salon or Buzzfeed or some other tard swamp.

    Examples:

    X happened, here’s why that’s a problem
    X happened, and that’s not OK
    X happened, you won’t believe what happened next

    Buzzfeed headline generator: http://www.mandatory.com/2013/…..e-creator/

    1. “99 Arousing Tweets About the Royal Baby”

  19. Why not put “outrageous and evil” in the headline, and save “Not Okay” for when you’re talking to 4yr olds, or when your cat shits on the floor?

    1. When my cat shits on the floor i tend to throw around “FUCKING ASSHOLE CAT” a lot.

      1. Everybody poops, Citizen X…

      2. Throwing cats is punching down

        1. That’s why his cat rage-shits on the floor in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle of co-dependency.. and rage-shitting..

          1. It’s not okay.

            1. I’m not going to sugar coat it. That’s no OK.

          2. It’s a viscous cycle

            The cat has runny poop? Stop with the people food.

            1. couscous

    2. It’s enough to say: Cop Handcuffs 8 Year-Old Boy

      It’s enough because anyone with half a brain knows that an adult doesn’t need handcuffs to restrain a child.

    3. I now see i’m not the only one pointing this out.

      Its bad enough that the “Okay” thing is just a mayonnaise, matronizing expression that should only be used by lazy and retarded writers in places where comments consist entirely of animated GIFs…

      …its that… for a “police abuses children“-story… if you’re going to add some personal-reaction to it? Go with something that has more oomph than a teenage girl’s reaction to mom buying non-dolphin-free tuna.

    4. Because on the scale of evil and outrage, it’s low relative to the rest of the news cycle, so the quota ran out and it gets “not okay”.

  20. DAMN y’all harshing Rico’s mellow today. I still like you Robby. Not as much as SHE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED! But I still like you.

    Serious part of comment: Who pays for the officer EXACTLY? Is the the School District or the PULEESE? Is there an IGA that handles it. Is it different in all schools? I think this may become a pet project of mine. De-fund SROs. I already chair the Con Committee, we write all the con statements in the blue book that goes out to voters. Why not something like this too. Sounds like fun.

  21. In between gigs in nuc power, I taught AP physics for 8 years. There were 2 things the led me to leave:
    1) That no matter what I do (I had pretty much maxed out the education pay increases) I would get paid the same amount as the freshman english teacher who was there to get summers off (and less than the head football coach)
    2) That not only are the students treated like a prison, they go out of their way to punish good kids when they do minor things, that way they can look “fair”. Besides, it is a hell of a lot easier to give detention or in school suspension to a good kid for ditching during senior ditch day, then it is to discipline the problem kid who maybe at school but causes all kind of problems.

    1. they go out of their way to punish good kids when they do minor things, that way they can look “fair”

      This might just get a whole lot worse. And still I don’t think I’ve seen Reason do a story on this super weird and invasive database.

    2. Ok, 1. Literally anyone can teach AP physics, good football coaches are harder to come by, and 2. That’s because troublemaking kids don’t fear getting in trouble and “good” (or in many cases, sycophantic) kids do, and school administrators get a huge sexual thrill out of seeing fear in kids’ eyes. Fair has nothing to do with it, it is at best a rationalization.

      1. Yep!!

        1. HS physics, while nice, belongs in 6-7-8th grades. C’mon, everything is friction-less non-rotating bodies. It is basically arithmetic.

          1. I took Physics for exactly one day in high school. When the first class was about how to use a ruler, I knew this was not for me.

  22. The cop sucks and all, but seriously fuck HuffPo. Not a single shit is given about the principle that a cop shouldn’t be shackling an 8 year old, but they are fucking outraged that he might’ve violated a federal regulation in doing so.

    1. They have no underlying premise or overriding principle. It’s emotional outrage tempered only by political expedience. Moral impulse is the burden of lesser minds.

    2. Note that the kid was disabled. I seriously wonder if they would’ve cared otherwise.

      1. That’s why it violated a regulation. He should’ve shackled a white cis-abled or whatever made up bullshit it is these days straight kid, just for having too much privilege. Then HuffPo would be throwing him a parade.

    3. That was my thought, too. If these kids didn’t have learning disabilities, would the ACLU have cared? Is it normally OK for a cop to treat an eight-year-old child like a violent street criminal busted for assault?

    4. Look, the kid was white, so cut them a little slack. Do you have any idea how difficult it is for these pea-brained liberals to come up with a narrative besides racism?

      1. “Institutional racism hurts white people, too.” There, was that so difficult?

    5. They can fuck right off for thinking the over diagnosis of ADHD so school administrators and big pharma can pump little boys full of amphetamines is a bona fide learning disability too.

  23. OFFICER SAFETY

  24. Robby? Are you starting to understand yet that some people just like to complain? You’ll never please them, Robby. You’d be better off insulting their whore mothers.

    1. YOU’RE ONE OF THE GOOD ONES, SUGAR

    2. My whore mother was a saint!

      1. Most of the time she even forgot to charge.

        1. One time i paid her with a five, and when she made change she accidentally gave me a ten!

          1. I’m guessing “a ten” is like a Dirty Sanchez with all ten fingers.

            1. Not that’s called “Howard the Duck”

              1. A “puddin’ pop.”

    3. That’s just rude. I would never insult your mother, she does that thing I like without charging extra.

    4. Robby approvingly posted about me on his twitter once. Alas, given what I have started I imagine our days of friendship are over.

  25. allowed an officer to handcuff an 8-year-old boy and 9-year-old girl.

    Together?

    1. That’s not okay.

      1. Yeah, it wasn’t a Catholic school.

        1. No, it was that cop’s rule /34 bucket-list…

        2. No, that’s where they shackle 5 little boys together to invite over to the priest’s place to “play house”. GET IT RIGHT.

  26. The problem is, there’s a whole chain of adults who are responsible here, not just the cop.

    Think of the cop like the pitbull that got out of the owners yard and mauled a neighbor’s child while the owner stood by doing nothing…

    1. Well.. no other cop showed up and shot him, soooo.. that analogy doesn’t hold water..

      1. Cops don’t shoot other cops!

        1. Well, you say that, but…

          1. The gun shot the sergeant, not the cop. Try harder… it’s like you’re new here.

            1. You win this round… Paul..

              *narrows gaze*

              1. NEEDZ MOAR TRAINING

          2. Another beautiful example. A $60 drug bust leads to officer shooting a plainclothed narc cop five times. Money shot:

            “We’re getting some push back because (the investigation) was for $60 of meth,” said Albuquerque police officer Tanner Tixier, a spokesman. “But that’s how these investigations work. You start with $20, $40, $60 buys. You can’t just go out and buy five pounds of meth.”

            1. Tokyo panic button

            2. Someone must have known he was a cop, since they rushed him to the hospital. Otherwise they would have prevented paramedics from giving treatment as he bled to death, handcuffed, in the parking lot.

  27. Not a single shit is given about the principle that a cop shouldn’t be shackling an 8 year old, but they are fucking outraged that he might’ve violated a federal regulation in doing so.

    As Tony has pointed out to us on many occasions, absent specific enumeration of a child’s right not to be handcuffed by a school cop, that is the natural and totally reasonable state of affairs.
    The only question is, “Why wasn’t the cop familiar with the provisions of the ADA?”

  28. I don’t know WTF a school resource officer is, but I remember having teachers screaming in my face. Most of them had breath that smelled like someone with really bad breath took a shit in their mouth. The kid was probably just had a gag reflex and was covering his mouth.

  29. I’d like to thank Rico for providing me a solid 15 minutes of hilarity during my lunch break. Not for your headline or article, Robby, but for giving the commentariat another chance to be their funny asshole selves.

    1. As my manager at the time ten years ago, told me and my colleagues at work, “You guys are ASSholes……that’s why I like you.”

      HyR is kind of like that….:)

  30. huffpo writes good piece on Amesty Int’l’s call to decrim prostitution a la New Zealand, not Nordic.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..63d5a2e89b

    The tide appears to be turning in our favor.

    1. You know, I see a day where, as in Jim Crow, the Tony’s of the world claim credit for joining our cause and ahistorically claim that we were on the wrong side of the debate.

      And I am cool with that; who cares what myths the savages tell themselves, so long as they do the right thing?

      1. Oh, they’ll claim credit. No doubt about it. Too bad for them networks now capture everything ever written and search engines are able to sift through it quickly.

      2. Yes, but it would be nicer for them to embrace the larger principle, so that not every single improvement in liberty requires decades of political fights.

  31. Never too early for the chirrens to learn, “Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”, amirite?

    And keep your eye on the sparrow….

  32. This story was on Globo TV from Brazil yesterday, my wife asked me to come look at the tv when it was on. I rarely look at the tv unless she asks me to see something, or we’re watching a movie.

    I then thought that Reason should cover this. Where’s my hat tip, Reason?

  33. If you want to blame someone, blame the mainstreamers.

  34. What do you suggest the police officer do to the child to get him to stop swinging at him. Do you suggest that people with learning disabilities can do whatever they like, that they don’t have to be taught respect for authority, that they can act up and out whenever they like and no one can stop them. Society is going to be a mess before long if that’s the case.

    1. Right, Tulpa. Now tell us how great Cincinnait cops are again.

    2. I think he should have just shot him. I mean, it would have stopped the small child from taking futile swings at the 6′ tall police officer, and isn’t that really what matters.

    3. Do you suggest that people with learning disabilities can do whatever they like

      Yeah, that’s exactly what we were saying. When we said ‘this should have been handled better’ what we meant was ‘disabled people should never be punished for anything.’

      that they don’t have to be taught respect for authority

      Respect for authority is the most overrated virtue there is. There are all sorts of mass murderers who respected authority and there are all sorts of outright heroes who didn’t. Authority should not be respected unless it shows itself worthy of respect, which the officer did not.

      that they can act up and out whenever they like and no one can stop them

      You’re not smart.

    4. “Respect for authority?”

      Lady, do you know where the hell you are??

      1. Maybe she’s a Giuliani libertarian.

    5. What do you suggest the police officer do to the child to get him to stop swinging at him.

      Well, he could just leave the room.

      If he just had to physically dominate the kid, why not just use a nightstick, taser, and/or pepper spray? I mean, if the most important thing is to stop the kid from swinging at him, why not?

  35. No 50-pound boy is enough of a physical threat to a police officer that shackling his biceps behind his back is justified.

    How much would anyone wager against the cop self investigation finding that the officer feared for his life at the hands of this 50 lb two legged menace and that procedures were followed, blahblahblah?

  36. The kid should have been locked in a janitor’s closet for a few days. That would take the fight out of him.

  37. Is anyone surprised that a cop would handcuff an elementary school kid? Because it makes sense to me — both parties are on about the same footing, in terms of social development. Give one of them a couple-hundred extra pounds, and a bunch of equipment, and the scenario writes itself.

  38. It’s important to teach kids the importance of obeying the state, so they’ll be nice compliant citizens when they grow up. Well, unless they shoot up a school first.

  39. It’s seems that this just happened, and it’s worth waiting for details. Perhaps the child was restrained for his own safety. Perhaps it was for the officer’s safety. Perhaps it was to minimize physical contact. No one knows, but the only reactions possible now are reflexive.

    Besides, everybody is upset about it. There’s little need for Reason to contribute its $0.02 unless they’ve a different or nuanced twist to it.

    1. Perhaps it was for the officer’s safety.

      Yeah, right.

    2. “it’s worth waiting for details.”

      Because the video isn’t clear.

      The kid might have been snorting bath salts and had the strength of 100 men? Or was his sniveling ‘i’m sorry’, and being completely passive you think *some kind of ruse* so that he might make a move for the cops gun?

      There’s no need for anyone to comment! We should wait until no one is paying attention…THEN write a story about kindergarteners getting cuffed. At which point it will be different, how?

  40. woodchipper woodchipper sing me a song

  41. I am appalled that there has not been a single Kindergarten Cop reference here.

    For shame

  42. Public school shouldn’t exist. I don’t think kids with learning disabilities should be handcuffed, but I also don’t think they should be anyone’s responsibility but the parents.

  43. What a joke. Reason is all for heavily edited videos that appear to support THEIR side of the debate over police issues. Such as editing out the kid’s presumable punching at people that led to his being armcuffed. I suppose they think the officer should have just let the kid run around his office punching at people?

    Once shackled, the boy cries and complains that the restraints are hurting him.

    LOL. Assuming the person who wrote this has never raised a kid. Hint: they complain about any punishment (corporal, psychological, or deprivational) in the most exaggerated way possible, even if it doesn’t harm them at all.

  44. has anyone ever looked at this the other way around? Has no one considered that what’s on display here isn’t an abusive cop, but a system that removes any reasonable control that authority is supposed to have, i.e. spanking/restraining?

    The teachers can’t hit the kid at all or restrain him, so a kid can just freak out and freak out more and more. So they are legally obligated to call the cops.
    Now, the COP also can’t hit the kid, that’d be “child abuse”, so he does the only thing he can do: restrain the kid.

    They banned every fucking discipline measure on every level, and so now all interactions get pulled down to the lowest common denominator, and at older ages the bad, asshole kids rule the roost. It’s like the reavers from Firefly.

    1. see above the comment about by the guy saying they repeatedly locked him in a broom closet. That’s the only thing they have now, after it became illegal to expel or spank or ANYTHING kids. So it ends up being a slow torture system, like a prison, where you just lock people up as punishment

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