It is an ugly story illustrating much of what is wrong with private-to-private eminent domain transfers in this country. And to the surprise of few people paying attention, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a would-be 2016 presidential aspirant, is on the wrong side of it.
Christie has thus far ignored a popular petition to halt the development (which, according to CNN, has lasted this long in part due to a "set of tax incentives" supported by the governor to encourage the project's investors "not to give up on construction in 2011"), and he has not (per Moody) commented directly on the case. But when CNN asked him to comment on the general idea of private-to-private eminent domain transfers, the governor let out this snort; go to 2:11 in the linked video to appreciate the full awfulness of it:
It depends upon the circumstances. And that is what eminent domain is all about, and that's why we have the ability for people to go to court and work through that. So, depends on the circumstance; you can't give a generalized answer on that. The generalized answer on that is just sophomoric, and I won't give one.
Actually, you can give a generalized answer on the infamous practice enshrined in (dubious) constitutionality in the 2005 case Kelo v. The City of New London, which is what more than 40 states did in response to the righteous popular backlash against the notion that a neighborhood could be torn down and handed to a developer. It does not require an active moral imagination to conclude that men with guns should not have the right to take your property and give it to someone else just because the new guy might squeeze more tax dollars from the land. Chris Christie was on the wrong side of the backlash, too, according to this October 2013 Reason piece by John K. Ross:
A bill in New Jersey (A3615) that would weaken protections for property owners sailed through the legislature, bolstered by support from the New Jersey League of Municipalities and the New Jersey Builders Association. Governor Chris Christie signed it into law last month. According to the bill's authors, the law codifies two state court rulings requiring cities to prove that property is a threat to public health and safety before seizing it and also provide "fair and adequate" notice to property owners when eminent domain is authorized.
In reality, the law attempts to remove the protections proponents say it codifies. "This law is transparently an attempt to go back to the old way of doing business," says Peter Dickson, a New Jersey-based land-use attorney.
For instance, far from demanding cities prove a property is a threat to health and safety, the law says officials need only assert that the property somehow impedes land assembly—a standard that puts virtually every property in the state at risk.
The law also allows for the creation of "non-condemnation redevelopment areas" where officials do not have eminent domain authority—unless a property owner refuses to sell. In the case of such refusal, a non-condemnation area can be transformed into a condemnation area. The intended effect of the provision is to confuse property owners.
"If you're in a non-condemnation area," says Dickson, "you're going to say, 'why should I go hire a lawyer and spend tens of thousands of dollars to challenge this designation if it doesn't put me under eminent domain?'" But failing to challenge the designation within 45 days means you lose the right to challenge it, even if condemnation occurs many years later.
New Jersey, as Jim Epstein points out in this great piece about the Port Authority, is a Progressive-era nightmare of centralized governance. The governor there wields so much power compared to, say, the governor of Texas, that it's natural for him or her to view any principled devolution of that power to be "sophomoric." It is indeed sophomoric to voluntarily eschew using nails, if one is a hammer.
For the rest of us, the vision is a bit more clear: Don't bulldoze homes just to give them to a developer. If a "conservative" can't mouth that simple sentence in 2015, then he deserves the electoral failure awaiting him.
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This is the very same Chris Christie who chastised beachfront property owners for not granting for free an easement to allow flood control structures to be built on their property, tear down any interfering structures, and prohibit the owner from setting foot on the property as "selfish" and "not wanting their view blocked".
I don't think they differ in that respect -- in each one, the answer is "The ones with the most political connections get this stolen loot and whoever you need to bribe to stay in power."
I'll bet Christie's not smart enough to live off the fat of the land. But I don't wanna lard up the thread with too many fat jokes, so I'll just leave the larded up jelly donut of a man alone for now.
There must be. ISTR having thought his election was good news (it still may have been, given the choices), & kept thinking that for a while after he was in office.
"The law establishes tax credits for businesses that donate money to the Nevada Educational Choice Scholarship Program, up to $5 million in the first year of the budget and $5.5 million in the second year. The maximum scholarship would be $7,755 per student."
I read recently that Atlantic City has the highest number of foreclosures per resident of any city in America. Yeah, that "reinvestment" is gonna work. But, go ahead and steal some guys property pointlessly, Christy. We're almost as bad as California with its bullet train bullshit.
Yep. All the new casinos that got built in Pennsylvania, Delaware, and Maryland the last couple of years have crushed A.C.
It might not have been so quite bad if they had tried harder to make it a true destination instead of just a dump with a bunch of casinos. Big mistake.
Um, NO, Matt, Kelo doesn't make it Constitutional. It's a bad decision. The result is clearly UN-Constitutional. The fact that some fraction of at least 5/9 of the black-robed Nazgul made a bad decision didn't "enshrine" Kelo and Const Law.
It enshrined those justices supporting the decision as "Woodchipper-Qualified".
"So, depends on the circumstance; you can't give a generalized answer on that. The generalized answer on that is just sophomoric, and I won't give one."
Rule of Law? Bill of Rights? Pfffpth! Who needs that? The Top Men should get together and decide what is Good and Just and True.
CC is sounding a lot like AmSoc with his twisted sort of logic: You're not getting the best use (if any at all) out of your property, so we're gonna just take that and let someone else pay us more do a better job with it.
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Just "up to $90 an hour working from my home"? That's peanuts! We need to use eminent domain to condemn your house and sell it to someone who can make $150 an hour! Just think of the increase in taxes!
I heard a dude on a talk show this morning seriously advocating a GOP ticket of Trump/Christie because they wouldn't take any shit from the media, the opposition, etc. Me, I'd prefer my putdowns to be Buckleyesque.
That's actually a fairly common (though not majority) sentiment. A lot of people so hate the big media that they think they have a champion in any prominent person, such as a politician, who's "supposed" to answer to them in some way but doesn't. They don't much care what that champion says or does, just that they stand up to the people covering them.
Chris Christie is about as American as Stalin was. If I could put one name on Obama's drone list it would be that fat SOB. He and his kind are why so many Americans are anti government anti Republican. He should be made the poster child for abortion. If you haven't figured it out yet I don't like the guy or anyone like him.
I'm in no mood to be lectured by Chris Christie about anything whatsoever.
I do not believe I have ever been is such a mood.
Transfats in doughnuts?
Mmmmmmmmmm!!
Transfats make day-olds edible. Fuck that guy.
Chris Christie and New Jersey deserve each other.
Is there anything that he can't fuck up?
His campaign for POTUS will be his ultimate fuck up.
GOOD
His campaign for POTUS will be his ultimate fuck up.
You can say that again!
Is there anything that he can't fuck up?
Signs point to no.
Those 'dangerous" libertarians with their sophomoric ideas.
And Chris Christie knows from sophomoric!
Yeesh - This guy is the gift that just keeps on giving isn't he
Would Gov. Christie support eminent domain to give money to a private owner to build a manufacturing plant for woodchippers?
He really is the worst.
Er, that's "land to a private developer", not money to a private owner. Working on 2 hours sleep here, not very coherent.
You had me at Woodchipper.
This is the very same Chris Christie who chastised beachfront property owners for not granting for free an easement to allow flood control structures to be built on their property, tear down any interfering structures, and prohibit the owner from setting foot on the property as "selfish" and "not wanting their view blocked".
Well yes. He obviously hates property rights.
From the economic perspective, all of the systems of government differ in only one key respect: Who gets the stolen loot?
I don't think they differ in that respect -- in each one, the answer is "The ones with the most political connections get this stolen loot and whoever you need to bribe to stay in power."
Is there any issue where Christie doesn't go full retard?
Well, he's not anorexic.
I'm sure he righteously believes that casino buffets should truly be "all you can eat"...
(normally, I'm against fat jokes, because they're well, sophomoric. But if anyone deserves them, it's Christie)
I'll bet Christie's not smart enough to live off the fat of the land. But I don't wanna lard up the thread with too many fat jokes, so I'll just leave the larded up jelly donut of a man alone for now.
W
I guess his gastric bypass didn't take . . .
Didn't the surgeon know - cows have 4 stomachs. Not just one.
I believe I just said the exact same thing without insulting the intellectually challenged. You owe Episiarch an apology.
There must be. ISTR having thought his election was good news (it still may have been, given the choices), & kept thinking that for a while after he was in office.
Breaking = The Popemobile is Now a Hyundai
Sop to fact Koreans are more religiously devout than Europeans? Natch.
Your new handle is quite fetching. Good on ya.
Serious, Thoughtful Adults know that authoritarianism has its place.
BREAKING NEWS: New Jersey Democrat Chris Christie is every bit as anti-property rights as he is anti-gun rights.
But he's pro eating. Ya gotta give him that.
For him. What about for us? I like eating.
I even had Costco Indian an hour before my official lunch.
I was trying to figure out how you could've misspelled Casino that badly. Dvorak?
Anti-gun, anti-pot and anti-property.
Yep, my kinda Republican. (sarc).
Oh, Sugar Free - tell us a story! You know, Chris Christie, Lindsey Graham and peach pie.
NOOOO!!!!!
Peach pie hardest hit.
OT: Good news (sorta): Gov. Sandoval signs Nevada school choice bill
http://www.reviewjournal.com/l.....hoice-bill
"The law establishes tax credits for businesses that donate money to the Nevada Educational Choice Scholarship Program, up to $5 million in the first year of the budget and $5.5 million in the second year. The maximum scholarship would be $7,755 per student."
Reason 8,946,832 not to vote for Chris Christie.
How many times has New Jersey been down-graded under this guy?
Chris Christie's use of sophomoric is sophomoric.
YOU'RE sophomoric!
/Chris Christie
Well, that is sophomoric bullying and I have not response to this!
PWND
*trudges off to all-he-can-eat Trough 'n' Brew*
What happens to me if I'm a Freshman? *locker door slammed shut again by a Sophomore
I read recently that Atlantic City has the highest number of foreclosures per resident of any city in America. Yeah, that "reinvestment" is gonna work. But, go ahead and steal some guys property pointlessly, Christy. We're almost as bad as California with its bullet train bullshit.
Oh, hello.
Hello. Do I know you?
Do we have a second lady from New Jersey?
Damn. I gave myself away already. I had hoped to pass myself off with a bit of credibility this time.
Yep. All the new casinos that got built in Pennsylvania, Delaware, and Maryland the last couple of years have crushed A.C.
It might not have been so quite bad if they had tried harder to make it a true destination instead of just a dump with a bunch of casinos. Big mistake.
enshrined in (dubious) constitutionality
Um, NO, Matt, Kelo doesn't make it Constitutional. It's a bad decision. The result is clearly UN-Constitutional. The fact that some fraction of at least 5/9 of the black-robed Nazgul made a bad decision didn't "enshrine" Kelo and Const Law.
It enshrined those justices supporting the decision as "Woodchipper-Qualified".
Sugar Free - tell us another Chris Christie story!
No. SF can use his powers for good, not evil.
Ah, I want to see the next chapter of Chris and Lindsey.
The sad fat is he would not fit in a woods chipper
I meant fact,or did I??
Not all wood chippers are created equal.
think of the disposal cost savings
Bandit Chippers are the Professional's Choice
And they publish their own quarterly magazine on chipper-industry issues
It would take a delicate hand with the timber jack claw to keep the jelly in the donut before he hits the chipper.
depends on the circumstance
In other words, it depends on whether or not Christie gets his cut.
Ha. Thinking of lardass I read that as 'circumference.'
"So, depends on the circumstance; you can't give a generalized answer on that. The generalized answer on that is just sophomoric, and I won't give one."
Rule of Law? Bill of Rights? Pfffpth! Who needs that? The Top Men should get together and decide what is Good and Just and True.
But those top men will limit their powers because a piece of paper tells them to.
I'm starting to think that all politicians are crooks who are not their for the betterment of the nation but only for the betterment of their wallets
CC is sounding a lot like AmSoc with his twisted sort of logic: You're not getting the best use (if any at all) out of your property, so we're gonna just take that and let someone else pay us more do a better job with it.
The smartest guy in the room, I tells ya.
Chris Christie reserves the right to make an offer you can't refuse.
Shorter Christie: "Why are you peasants so revolting?"
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Just "up to $90 an hour working from my home"? That's peanuts! We need to use eminent domain to condemn your house and sell it to someone who can make $150 an hour! Just think of the increase in taxes!
No one else has high-fived the ALT TEXT. WassamattaU?
Thanks Matt, made me smile.
All they gotta tell that big blowhard is "Chris, what would The Boss do?"
I heard a dude on a talk show this morning seriously advocating a GOP ticket of Trump/Christie because they wouldn't take any shit from the media, the opposition, etc. Me, I'd prefer my putdowns to be Buckleyesque.
That's actually a fairly common (though not majority) sentiment. A lot of people so hate the big media that they think they have a champion in any prominent person, such as a politician, who's "supposed" to answer to them in some way but doesn't. They don't much care what that champion says or does, just that they stand up to the people covering them.
"It is an ugly story illustrating much of what is wrong with private-to-private eminent domain transfers in this country."
So isn't this merely Georgism applied?
Chris Christie is about as American as Stalin was. If I could put one name on Obama's drone list it would be that fat SOB. He and his kind are why so many Americans are anti government anti Republican. He should be made the poster child for abortion. If you haven't figured it out yet I don't like the guy or anyone like him.