Freddie Gray's Arrest Record Explains Why He Ran, Not Why He's Dead
Cops still haven't explained how he died in their custody, but insist they did nothing criminal.


Freddie Gray's lengthy arrest record is making the rounds on social media as certain people look for any reason to dismiss the grievances over police violence residents of Baltimore have expressed. Most of the charges on the record are drug-related, and most did not end in a conviction. But Freddie Gray's record, no matter what's on it, doesn't explain why he died. Gray died from a fatal spine injury days after being arrested for alleged possession of a knife. Police say they ran after Gray because he ran when they made eye contact with him. His arrest record may explain why he ran. He's known to police—and cops tend to come back to the people they know. Since he's got significantly more arrests than convictions, perhaps that day he had less patience than usual at playing the role of job justification for a bunch of bored Baltimore cops. So he ran because he valued his freedom.
Gray wasn't shot by cops. He suffered a fatal spine injury. Six officers were suspended with pay over the incident and at least one refuses to talk. Gray's family says cops did not get him medical help in a timely fashion. The police won't say what any of the cops involved in Gray's fatal arrest have said, and have as of yet not offered any explanation publicly as to why Gray died. When the same cops make an arrest in Baltimore, even if it was a mistaken or wrongful one, the suspect, or victim, often loses his job. There's little leeway shown by police toward the people they arrest, whom they often treat as if they were already guilty. The disparity between the way cops treat us and the way they treat each other is one contributing factor to the tensions over police abuse. The police union called protesters a "lynch mob" when it was peacefully demanding justice (cops claim some protesters wanted to see the police "imprisoned immediately"—I never saw such a sign, but considering if I were found next to a cop who had suffered a fatal spine injury I would be arrested it's kind of ridiculous for cops to insist no arrest in their case is normal). Now they have a riot.
The media, in the meantime, paid little attention to the protests in Baltimore when they were peaceful. Even when they started getting violent, CNN wouldn't cut away from the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Yesterday afternoon non-stop coverage started, focused on just the rioting, of course. When riots erupted after the San Francisco Giants won the World Series last year, it didn't stop anyone on ESPN from focusing on the merits, or faults, of the championship-winning Giants team. Perhaps CNN's reporters, many of whom acted as if the riots were happening without any context, can take some notes from ESPN.
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I thought the current excuse is that he bashed his own head into the side of the van until his spine snapped. Because (a) that's totally possible and (b) it makes total sense. Yup.
It IS possible he was agitated in the paddy wagon. In that case the police had a duty to calm him down, strap him to a chair or something.
A person in custody gets into a police van and an hour later has a severed spine. Res ipsa loquitur. At best I think this is looking like criminally negligent homicide (or whatever the Maryland equivalent is) and at worst like murder under color of law.
If nothing else, I'd think "manslaughter" would apply.
NOPE!
WRONG AGAIN - read this - -http://bit.ly/1GEf9Mb
When will everyone STOP jumping to conclusions???
The public & media reaction has been wrong on every single case that has made national news. Now the facts come in on Freddie
Assuming the legitimacy of the claim about the pre-existing injury, part of the problem here is that police don't always know the details of their arrestees' medical histories. That might be a good reason to apply basic precautions, like a seat belt.
I always reserve judgment in these cases because the media in invested in sensationalism and when the facts come out it is always an entirely different situation than was originally described.
Evidence did show Trayvon Martin assaulted Zimmerman before being shot. Evidence did show that Mike Brown did assault the cop, resist arrest, and attempt to take the gun of the cop Wilson prior to being shot. Video evidence clearly shows Eric Garner resisting arrest when it took a group of cops to subdue and cuff him.
In every case, the media has been wrong from the start and this has been done purposely to create news by creating unrest. Sadly, innocent people have died as a result. Innocent property owners have been ruined, and not a single person has been moved to change their view on the issue.
If the goal has been to convince people that blacks suffer relentless racism all the time and that explains everything, they aren't making any headway. The evidence just keeps screwing up the narrative.
Uh huh. Speaking of reserving judgement...
Given the Baltimore Sun investigated this issue and found the lawsuit and payout refer to a case of exposure to lead paint, maybe we can stop judging Gray to be damaged goods prior to avoiding an officer's icy stare.
That doesn't even get close to assigning their of guilt. They weren't just negligent because they failed to put a guy's seatbelt on. This guy was cuffed, sitting sideways (perpendicular to the direction of movement). Even with smooth driving, he would have had a hard time keeping himself unharmed. And I would bet all the money I have, all $22, that the ride was not smooth; but, hey, just some fun and games, until somebody dies and the city burns.
Their level of
And just to reinforce the point, I'm guessing that he was cuffed with his hands behind his back, and the driver purposely swerving and braking hard.
WRONG - -http://bit.ly/1GEf9Mb
QUOTE:
"Regardless of the amount of time that has passed since his most recent spinal surgery, it was clearly not an action by the officers involved that severed his spine. It was his own actions in combination with his earlier accident that led to his spinal RE-injury and ultimately to his death."
When will everyone STOP jumping to conclusions???
The public & media reaction has been wrong on every single case that has made national news. Now the facts come in on Freddie
Well, since Rick Wells, "a conservative writer who recognizes that our nation, our Constitution and our traditions are under a full scale assault from multiple threats," said it, I believe it and that settles it.
Oh, sorry! I thought that said "a spinal surgeon who is qualified as an expert in police use of force."
Never mind.
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This attitude towards informing the public tells you that this: "...but insist they [the police] did nothing criminal" is complete and total bullshit. We won't tell you what really happened, just rest assured we didn't do anything criminal. Trust us.
Police are fully justified in abusing people who have a criminal record. Didn't you guys know that?
iirc news was saying he was arrested for making eyecontact, the point of circulating the record is to show why he bolted, he was arrested because going deer in headlights and running when you see a uniform is suspicious as fuck. people from the world at large(aka outside baltamore)were wondering why he'd do that(fear of police harm? criminal record? just a skittish dude?) found out why and shared it in emails.
paid suspension is always the first step(policy is to not fuck over somebody who might be innocent by firing them immediately, and law is innocent until proven guilty. unions would be pissed if they appeased the mob), then comes the investigation which takes actual time. finding out how he got in the van is easy. looking up a record to be able to say "yeah, he was probably grabbed because he was acting ridiculously suspicious like they said, so nothing about /that/ part is criminal" is easy. and thats as far as we've managed to get. because time.
No, dipshit. Nothing about running from the cops is suspicious. It's very well settled that somebody running from the cops is NOT by itself enough to create reasonable suspicion, let alone probable cause for arrest.
Unless its a roadside dui/safety check? I thought i read a case about that recently in which avoiding a checkpoint (i.e., turning around and heading in the opposite direction) was deemed probable cause for a stop....
The whole roadblock thing has fallen into a sinkhole of exception to the fourth amendment, kind of like customs searches, because:
"How else can we get you if you don't seem to be doing anything wrong?"
The law is innocent until proven guilty, but I can be arrested and thrown in jail based on probable cause. Could a civilian be arrested based on the probable cause in this case although they are still considered innocent as you say? I would hazard to guess yes. Why is the standard different for the police?
Running is not a crime, nor is it reasonable suspicion. And the police have yet to release any information as to what particular crime Gray was suspected of that would justify the chase, nevermind the murder. And I know damn well there's no such offense as "Aggravated Eye Contact with an Officer".
And in case you're tempted, you can't use the scumbag looters as retroactive justification for gross police misconduct.
I'm OK with them continuing to be paid during their suspension while they're in jail.
How about suspension with half pay?
Who believes that, while refusing to release any details about what happened, the PD did release that they arrested him for running after making eye contact?
Yeah, they don't want any preliminary results released but they did release a highly dubious reasoning for his detention.
Source?
Cops are winning.
Smooches.
Hth
And also, there's no such thing as a paid suspension! Or a double standard!
without a paid suspension you'd see the union crawl up baltamore's ass and those same cops getting a huge settlement and a chunk of the taxpayer's money that should go to fixing the burned neighborhoods they mayor let the protesters have(won't be any arrests or consequences for destroying random people's livelyhoods of course. even though dumbfucks are even uploading plenty of criminal selfies to facebook, don't want to look like the cops are doing their jobs and avoid pissing off the half of the city that doesn't hate them yet)
So I'm sure if I was a suspect in a criminal investigation I would a) be allowed to work until convicted or b) paid by my employer until a judgement is reached. Yup, no double standard for LEO's.
Yeah that was an inside joke. They were referring to Dunphy (wasn't it?), a poster who claimed to be a cop, and who went on several lengthy soliloquies' explaining the difference between something or other that was very important to him. I think it was paid suspension vs. paid leave or some such. I don't remember the details, but I think he had taken umbrage because "suspension" denotes guilt, or punishment, or something.
BTW, where have all the LEO trolls gone? You think they just got access from the NSA, so they don't need mole-trolls anymore?
And most of the time the suspect, or victim, has no recourse available to be made whole. You can't sue the city for arresting you for no cause, because the assumption is always that the cops arrested you for what appeared to be a good reason. In other words, you are really not allowed to file a lawsuit against the police only because they were doing their job. So if they screw your life up, then suck it up, sissy pants, because that is what you get for looking suspicious.
hows it the taxpayer's fault your boss sacked you? sue him not the cops, that doesn't make any sense.
sounds like being pissed at the police for being the only reasonable employer in the city
Re: A SDFA SDFA SDF,
The police committed an act of aggression by depriving you of your liberty without cause. That's a tort.
... And nothing else happened.
Expect more riots, more bloodshed. The cops never back down, never de-escalate. They always push for more violence, more aggression because they can't be wrong. And so they have brought this on themselves. And since they, collectively, are not the smartest bunch, they will continue until multiple, discreet incidents across the country coalesce into something much larger than Baltimore or Ferguson, MO.
Interesting aside. Reading Malcom Gladwell's "David & Goliath." He has a chapter on the British Army's role in the N. Ireland "Troubles" in the 1970s. His thesis is that power applied unjustly or in a petty, vindictive manner will be viewed as illegitimate by those to whom it is applied. And the authority will not be respected, the violence escalated, the exact opposite of what the cops (British Army) intends. And so, expect more riots, more bloodshed.
"but considering if I were found next to a cop who had suffered a fatal spine injury I would be arrested it's kind of ridiculous for cops to insist no arrest in their case is normal)."
Exactly. I'm not sure why we hold cops to a lower standard of behaviour than Joe Citizen other than corruption and evilness. Fucking pigs.
You can be sure that it is because the cops are CONSTANTLY, and falsely, accused of wrongdoing by the criminals they encounter.
It is a time honored tradition by the criminal element to try to avoid charges by claiming "police brutality".
If every claim of police misconduct resulted in an arrest and arraignment, there would be no "fucking pigs" to respond to your call for help.
Try calling a crook, next time someone mugs you.
Try taking care of yourself next time someone mugs you (or better yet, take care of the neighbor you see getting mugged), cause all the cops will do is show up after the crime has taken place and maybe take a report, at least in any big city. In my home town, unless there is someone with a weapon pointed at you, you can't expect the cops to show up within 30 minutes. The 'you can't complain about cops cause someday you'll need them to save you' trope is retarded - it's rare a cop ever saves a victim while the crime is being committed, they investigate crimes already committed, fuck with drug users, and issue traffic citations.
You dont call the police for help. Look into response times. They show up to take a report at best. Better off taking responsibility for your own protection
I cant believe cops have vans they can put people in and no one can see what goes on
Cops still haven't explained how he died in their custody
no shit. investigations take /time/ ...remind me, how long did people wait before burning shit and hospitalizing cops?
suspension with pay is STEP 1. its how they /always/ begin an investigation, step 2 is to investigate and step 3 is react(lift suspension, fired, charges, ect depending on results) only once they have facts.
but everybody sees step 1, thinks thats the end and flips out because the results aren't instant. 😛
Why isn't STEP 1 cuffing them in the back of a van and severing their spines?
Tulpa, I'm always curious how you manage to type while constantly sucking authoritarian cock. That takes talent.
At this point, there's no reason to believe in Steps 2 and 3 because we know how they'll go. There will be an "investigation", which will involve talking to cops after they've had a chance to get their stories straight. They will be believed, and step 3 will involve nothing happening. Step 4 will involve a settlement paid to his family.
This shit happens every time.
Plus the copsuckers will keep shouting, "HE RANNNNN!" Because, if you don't run, your back doesn't get broken, or something.
Yup, investigated by themselves. And a settlement paid to the family from TAX payer funds. The officers are never effected.
Move a long nothing to see here
you are obviously new to this board and I would suggest reading up about our views on liberty/police accountability. The process of reviewing a police related death is what is under criticism, mainly because 99.5 percent of the time the police conduct their own investigation and conclude "all rules were followed".
you are obviously new to this board and I would suggest reading up about our views on liberty/police accountability. The process of reviewing a police related death is what is under criticism, mainly because 99.5 percent of the time the police conduct their own investigation and conclude "all rules were followed".
You're obviously new to the board with your double post!!!
New name maybe. Same authoritarian troll.
I'm generally unsure whether all of our authoritarian trolls are the same. But this one is.
If they can figure out who the 9/11 hijackers were within 24 hours, yeah, I think it's reasonable to demand an explanation of how a arrestee broke his back when in police custody for about 15 minutes.
They do it on CSI, every week, and it only takes about ten minutes.
Investigations do indeed take time. Six suspects were found at the scene with the critically-injured victim holding weapons and keeping said victim restrained. How many have been arrested? When I'm found standing next to your partner's body with a smoking shotgun will I be released on my own recognizance until the investigation is concluded?
Oh, and Baltimore cops don't have to make any statement whatsoever regarding any charges for 10 days following a killing according to their own special "bill of rights". Go shoot a cop and see what happens when you tell them you refuse to make a statement of any kind for ten days.
Does involved a broken neck in the back of a van?
Actually, since that's the penalty for "running", I'm guessing that shooting a cop gets you something that makes you wish they'd just broken your neck.
"Go shoot a cop and see what happens when you tell them you refuse to make a statement of any kind for ten days."
What a stupid statement.
If you have shot a cop, or committed any other crime, you don't have to make a statement - EVER. "You have a right to remain silent..."
Running is cause for chasing?
Well you can't have one without the other....
It's one of the criteria my dog uses. If something (not someone; he's a good dog) runs, he has to chase it.
(Coincidentally, it usually ends with that thing's neck snapped as well.)
I have 2 dogs. 1 would starve in the wild because he thinks the ultimate hunting technique is barking at your prey. The other stalks (and kills) everything that comes into his backyard.
The barking dog Is not hunting, it's saying, go away. It treats the squirrel as someone trying to steal his food, not as food itself.
Feral pigs have the same behavior.
And Benny Hill, too.
"?after being arrested for alleged possession of a knife?"
So what? Unless I've stuck that knife in the side of someone's neck, it's nobody's business, including any cop.
"?Police say they ran after Gray because he ran when they made eye contact with him?"
And once again, so what? If I made eye contact with you and ran?or flipped you the middle finger? or began singing Pokey LaFarge songs, it's no one's business including any cop.
These two seemingly simple, reasonable items?well, simple and reasonable to today's average American sheeple?speak loudly to where we are. There's nothing racial about this. We've allowed government, at all levels, to overtake us.
Land of the free and home of the brave? Why do we continue spewing that lie?
Hey if you're running because you don't want to be harassed and arrested on a flimsy basis by the cops yet again, just start being a law-abiding citizen. Just because you're not convicted doesn't mean you're not a criminal.
/statist
Study up the 4th amendment azzhat
Truth, Anyone?
In America, the Negroid* community has unleashed a tyranny of the majority by a minority. With support from The Left, Negroes riot whenever they claim, even wrongly, that a supposed injustice has been committed against one of them. In addition, they demand not only child support for their unbridled bastardy and to be given preferences in hiring but to be given free housing, free food, free clothing, free medical care, and even free telephones.
Their community is in shambles. 80% of Negroid babies are illegitimate. The intact Negroid family is a mere fragment of its former self.
The real hope for Negroes lies in generating real respect for real achievements. To date, how many have there been? In the end, context and consequences always tell the tale (www.inescapableconsequences.com).
*A generation ago, Negroes considered being called "black" insulting. Today, Negroes have lost their cultural identity to the extent that they even don't know how to refer to themselves.
Bye pig.
Apart from the unfortunate language, he is not far from wrong. A culture trapped in Prog Plantation Land is acting the part...no big surprise.
FINALLY! I combed through last nights riot threads looking for overt racism and didn't see much or any. Now I've got my daily fix of hatred. Mmmm. Smooth.
First Tulpa, now 'Murican. The asshole authoritarian trolls are out in force here.
Harry Reid, is that you?
I didn't realize racial theory from the 1930s was still in vogue...
The history of blacks in America is a history of being fucked by progressives. Progs overtly attempt to destroy the black family, which, soon after, slavery, had far LOWER rates of broken marriages and father-less households than white families.
you run from the law is a criminal act,is that hard to understand.he more than likely refused to comply with a police order and got ruffed up to the point of injury,so ask yourself this..if he didnt run would he be alive.if he wasnt resisting arrest would the cops beat him up????its sad BUTT there's a price to pay for actions and this lead to his death,,,,did the cops use too much force during the arrest???no doubt,should they be punished,yes,will they???idk....butt...the man broke the law twice and paid for it with his life..sad
You said BUTT, huh huh huh.
Pleawe cite the Maryland criminal code that identifies running from a law enforcement officer as a crime.
Impeding an investigation? I'm sure there are others.
Cite still missing. Random guesses don't count as citation.
Oh, you wanted something more solid than what cops usually do? Sorry. Got nothing. I'm sure there's a suitable subsection in Maryland's criminal code that can conceivably encompass "running away"...at least until a prosecutor declines to prosecute.
Thought you were referencing the legal code and not what really occurs on the streets. My bad. Police Chief idicated running isn't a crime.
My favorite is when the only charge is resisting arrest.
Another pig apologist. Learn the 4th amendment. You meant to say "running while black is a crime"
It seems pretty obvious why he's dead. The cops gave him a 'rough ride' -- a long-standing abuse that has paralyzed other police detainees in Baltimore:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....tml#page=1
Holy fuck. What a nut punch. After tens of millions in money paid out due to this "unsanctioned" practice as well as well pending lawsuits, it is STILL happening?
I'd be destroying police property, too...
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When will everyone STOP jumping to conclusions???
The public & media reaction has been wrong on every single case that has made national news. Now the facts come in on Freddie
It's OK mitch, everyone seems to be buying the idea that the police aren't releasing any information except the claim that he was detained for running after eye contact was made. Something well known to everyone, especially the police, as not a valid justification for an arrest.
The ignorance displayed by the cop-haters/anarchists is astounding.
Reading what libertine-arians think is important in their lives, it looks like they just have a big hard-on for cops because they are the ones stopping them from smoking their weed.
And you have a hard-on for statism 'cause it pays your pension. I'm assuming 'retiredfire' means you worked as a fireman - not surprisingly many firemen, even otherwise conservative ones, have a mean socialist streak that comes from being well payed government employees that, like police, often view themselves as a special class of citizen. I, too, worked in emergency services, and some of my best colleagues were firefighters, but like police work it attracts a certain type.
Sadly not surprising. When I finally learned what the deal was with Gray's arrest, I basically assumed that he got "uppity" with one or more of the blue-coated goons and they beat the living piss out of him. Of course, I expect nothing will happen to these six asswipes because "We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong". You know, because FYTW.....
In all seriousness, when are cops on the street just going to be target practice? This is getting simply crazy. The lack of accountability, the hubris, the protection of abuse by prosecutors and the courts (up to SCOTUS), etc.
Unless we see a lot more prosecutions and convictions, as well as wholesale reforms of police agencies whether done by localities or forced by the Dept of Justice, it will get more violent.
It's already happening in fits and starts, and it'll only get worse. The Rev. Al's of the world stir up the racewar angle and distract people from the police brutality angle. Ghetto rat opportunists start looting and generally behaving like scum. Media who ignored the largely peaceful (but terribly boring) protests are all over the rioters and looters. This in turn draws in more police, who inevitably get injured. Cops who aren't vile murderous fascists start to turn as they see decent people getting harmed or killed by rioting scumfucks, and they start to respond in kind. People on the fence watching it on TV start coming to the conclusion that however bad police misconduct might be the alternative--illiterate ghetto trash rioting in the streets burning everything in their wake--is even worse. Wash, rinse repeat.
Frankly, it's the cops who actually try to do the right thing who suffer the most from this shit, because they get it from both sides. Well, them and the next person who makes eye contact with a cop in Baltimore, of course.
His arrest record showed us that he was a straight up thug. His death showed us that their are members in the police state that are murderous thugs. Change doesn't happen by rioting in the streets... and it certainly doesn't help that the Mayor allows for the "room" for the riots to happen. We can't trust the thugs in the street OR the thugs that are supposed to protect us from thugs in the street. The Founders knew this and that is why their is a second amendment to the Constitution.
The thing you have to understand is that the Liberal Intellectual Radical Progressives responsible for administering places like Baltimore LIKE riots. They WANT policies that make the inner city poor feel oppressed, because that makes them ripe for the kind of rabble-rousing that the LIRPs are so good at.They LIKE having a cadre of unaccountable Cop stooges. So long as they can get away with the "We care about the downtrodden" narrative while simultaneously enforcing policies that keep the poor down, this all plays into their hands.
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I get it. His criminal record MADE him run. What made him sell drugs? Oh, white folks. and racism. and poverty. and slavery. Oh, and cops! Those crazy cops arresting him for doing something illegal. The humanity! So tired of this bullshit. I get it, some cops are assholes. But the vast majority of citizen interactions with police are uneventful. And in the ones that do end up with injury or death, the victims aren't completely blameless in the events that lead to their demise. These instances are the exception to the rule and certainly aren't proof of systemic racism. The black community refuses to acknowledge that they have a major issue with black on black crime and are only outraged on the rare instances when a white cop takes a black life. To them that's the only time black lives matter. This is like gun control advocates pointing to a handful of shootings as proof that there is an epidemic of gun violence, ignoring the other 200 million-plus gun owners that make it thru the day without shooting someone. Is it sad that someone lost their life? Absolutely. And if police were responsible, they should certainly be punished. But again, these are the exceptions. We don't see or hear about the other thousands of police contacts in the U.S. on any given day that didn't meet the criteria for the race hustlers and SJW in the national media.
In the case of Freddie Gray's murder, the police are responsible. But is very unclear whether a court system will find it that way.
NOOOOOO
ONCE AGAIN THE RACISM NARRATIVE BEGINS TO COLLAPSE.
---LINK - http://bit.ly/1GEf9Mb
QUOTE:
"Regardless of the amount of time that has passed since his most recent spinal surgery, it was clearly not an action by the officers involved that severed his spine. It was his own actions in combination with his earlier accident that led to his re-injury and ultimately to his death."
Won't it be interesting if it turns out the cops DID call for medical and medical didn't respond in a timely manner? But even if they didn't EVERYONE who has ever dealt with criminals know they will try every single chance they get to call for medical: #1 It may get them sympathy at trial, #2 They may get drugs
????? IF the Academy judges ever saw some of these guys acting hurt they'd be giving out Oscars right and left.
His spine was well enough before the cops had him because he was able to run. Sometime between when the cops stopped him illegally and when he died his spine was (re)injured. IIRC Baltimore City police policy is to take an injured subject to the nearest hospital immediately. Wasn't it forty some minutes for them to do that? Not sure how this one is on the medical professionals. Wishful thinking fallacy.
Cops stopped him illegally, searched him illegally, arrested him illegally, and failed to provide timely medical treatment to him. Complete failure of the standard of care.
MD law - contributory negligence.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
It has been reported another detained person was in the back of the van with him separated by what was likely a steel grid. Strange how no one, including the police and media, appears to be asking that person what happened.
AND ONCE AGAIN THE RACISM NARRATIVE BEGINS TO COLLAPSE.
---LINK - http://bit.ly/1GEf9Mb
QUOTE:
"Regardless of the amount of time that has passed since his most recent spinal surgery, it was clearly not an action by the officers involved that severed his spine. It was his own actions in combination with his earlier accident that led to his re-injury and ultimately to his death."
Won't it be interesting if it turns out the cops DID call for medical and medical didn't respond in a timely manner? But even if they didn't EVERYONE who has ever dealt with criminals know they will try every single chance they get to call for medical: #1 It may get them sympathy at trial, #2 They may get drugs ????? IF the Academy judges ever saw some of these guys acting hurt they'd be giving out Oscars right and left.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
It is stupid, in the extreme, to expect the police, who are CONSTANTLY, falsely accused of misconduct as a way for suspects to avoid responsibility, to be treated the same as the suspects they arrest.
It is a time honored tradition, among the criminal set, to claim "police brutality" as a way to get out of the charges. If every police officer was arrested and had to face arraignment every time a crook claimed a misdeed, there would be none left on the streets.
Similarly, the cries of extreme pain, also used to avoid being arrested and restrained, would result in massively overcrowded ER's with those, who care about as much for the distraction to medical personnel, who have real patients to treat, as they did about the offense they committed on some poor victim.
There is no, nor can there be any kind of, equivalence between what the police do, as their normal operating procedure, and what criminals, and apparently the anarchists, want to see done to the cops.
"A crook claimed a misdeed"
Notice how you're so quick to exempt cops from the laws (and accompanying legal procedures) the rest of us live under. That never leads to problems, right? Keep sucking that police cock, you disgusting coward.
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Climb back in your cesspool you feral monkey. You need to go clean yourself up, you must stink of crap now that you have been typing, your lonely braincell can't keep you from messing yourself and type at the same time.
What's it like to have an IQ of -100? Humans can't hear you.... your screeches are too high of pitch.
Better yet try laying off the Kooky-Aid, I guess feral monkeys like yourself can't help being stupid, it comes with not having a functional brain. Do the world a favor and tighten up your slave collar until the one braincell you have expires.
You are the feral monkey, your imaginary friend is as batshit crazy as you are.
That's MR Nigger to you, though I'm a bit lighter skinned than most.
I think this discussion centers around the actions of the cops.
We expect criminals to misbehave...they're criminals.
A bit more is expected from people that can take your life, liberty and property for shits and giggles.
When the cops act like criminals, Baltimore, you have a problem.
Considering that a BLACK mama smacked her son silly on TV for throwing rocks at the police, not a everyone thinks it's ok FOR NIGGERS TO BE TOTALLY LAWLESS. If they want to smoke a joint, that's fine, however.
I don't see this in race terms, it's more police vs the world. We have seen Black officers kill NIGGERS just quickly as white officers, and are just as quick to justify and cover it up. Has nothing to do with color,
Keep screeching you hillbilly christian monkey.... only your fellow monkeys can hear you.
Good job. You almost averaged two syllables per word.
Those education dollars weren't wasted on you.
Hopefully soon you'll be covering big and small letters.
Please don't feed the trolls.
what the !@#$ has he said that is even remotely Christian? He is a KKK wannabe asswipe with no sense, and no idea wha the caps lock key is for. Shit, I almost wonder if he ain't some progressive trolling.
I'm not excusing them, but I'm saying that the Progressive Left (who are bigots) mean them to behave that way, encourage it, and are delighted when they do.
Really committed troll we got here.
Agree. State/police state versus everyone else. This happens to be (at least some) white cops versus a black man. The police commish is black as is the female mayor. Currently, no charges have been filed and the six are on paid vacation...er leave. Those conditions are at least partly on Batts and Rawlings-Blake.
The biggest mistake the reform crowd has made is in trying to frame this in terms of race. After being called racist simply for having different political views, many Americans view cries of "racism" as a "boy who cried wolf" kind of thing.
The fact is, it's not so much race, although their is some of that,I think; it's mostly a question of class.
Yes black professors get hassled more than white professors, but mostly it's poor people being subjugated, the same as it's always been.