Police Abuse

South Carolina Cop Charged With Murder After Video Shows Him Shooting Motorist in the Back

The patrolman claimed he "felt threatened" when the man grabbed his Taser.

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NCPD, via The Post and Courier

In a column last December, I noted that video footage, while not necessarily decisive in cases where police use deadly force, can make a crucial difference. Here is a good example: Today police in North Charleston, South Carolina, arrested one of their own, Patrolman Michael Slager, and charged him with murder in the shooting death on Saturday of a motorist named Walter Scott. Slager initially claimed, through an attorney, that he feared for his safety after Scott grabbed his Taser during a struggle. But a bystander shot video that shows Slager firing eight rounds at a fleeing Scott, striking him in the back.

"When you're wrong, you're wrong," North Charleston Mayor Keith Summey said after viewing the recording. "When you make a bad decision, don't care if you're behind the shield or a citizen on the street, you have to live with that decision."

Slager, who is 33 and white, pulled over Scott, who was 50 and black, on Saturday morning near the intersection of Remount and Craig roads because the Mercedes-Benz sedan Scott was driving had a broken brake light. Scott took off on foot, apparently because he had an outstanding warrant for failure to pay child support. Slager pursued him on foot and, according to a statement the patrolman made through his lawyer earlier this week, drew his Taser in an attempt to subdue Scott, who grabbed the weapon, at which point Slager "felt threatened." In the the three-minute video, which shows the end of the chase and the immediate aftermath, Scott is not menacing Slager but is instead running away as the officer fires his weapon.

In the 1985 case Tennessee v. Garner, the Supreme Court said the Fourth Amendment allows police to shoot at a fleeing suspect only when he "poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others." It seems unlikely that Scott, a nonviolent offender who was armed at most with a weapon that is supposed to be nonlethal, fit that description. But in the absence of the video, Slager's version of events, which was initially the official police account, might have been accepted.

Two state legislators from the Charleston area say the shooting shows the need to move forward with a bill that would require police officers to wear body cameras. "My goal is to try to utilize modern-day technology to cut through the rumors and the lies when it comes to these unfortunate incidents," Rep. Wendell Gilliard (D-Charleston) told the Charleston Post and Courier. "Cameras don't lie."

Ron Bailey has more on police body cameras here.

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  1. Just saw it on the news. Horrible. Shot in back running away.

    1. Just saw it on the news. Horrible. Shot in back running away.

      It is…..but I still feel strangely not nut punched! I hope Officer Friendly enjoys his 3 hots and a cot!

      1. Not that it will happen but could face death penelty

        1. He’ll end up doing18 months for manslaughter.

      2. You are getting way ahead of yourself. Verdict isn’t in yet. There’s still a pretty good chance of a nut punch.

        1. Then there’s the police union

          1. AKA the Nutpunchers Assocation

        2. There is always the chance. But the video definitely improves the chances of a conviction. Cops do occasionally get convicted. And this seems pretty blatant and hard to make excuses for.

          1. There is always the chance. But the video definitely improves the chances of a conviction.

            I should say so……the only thing that could have made that video worse would have been Barney reloading and blasting away at the poor bastard while he lay face down in the dirt.

            I just don’t see any way that this can be spun!

            1. Apparently blasting away at Mike Brown as he fled, the proximate cause of Brown’s death, wasn’t enough to kill Wilson, so who knows.

              1. “Apparently blasting away at Mike Brown as he fled”

                It’s often hard to discern the difference between stupidity and willful ignorance.

            2. they spun a half dozen cops beating an unarmed mentally ill homeless man to death in CA. that was on Camera.

          2. It has been a very very long time since a cop was convicted of murder for killing somebody while on duty. Those that have been convicted generally receive reductions to manslaughter. Juries are forgiving and prosecutors don’t present the best case.

            1. Not only that but the courtroom is usually packed with cops staring at the jury. A conviction could well lead to sons beaten, wives and daughters raped, etc. The police will never be reformed by the state, in fact the only way it could happen would be if the National Guard were mobilized and ordered to disarm them, which would, no doubt, create other problems.

            2. Any judge that allows this to be pleaded down to manslaughter needs to be tarred and feathered – with real, honest-to-roofing, hot tar. Skin grafts would mean he was lucky enough to survive.

              If a jury finds for a lesser offense of manslaughter there won’t be enough fire engines in the state to save north Charleston.

              Given that there was a physical altercation I can accept the cop drawing his weapon on a fleeing suspect. But he didn’t even attempt to give chase, and it’s not like Scott was going to go very far, or get there very fast. Instead the cop calmly aimed his pistol and fired eight times at the guy’s back.

              Add in tampering with evidence by moving the Taser, and his blatantly false claim of fearing for his life and it is safe to say his acts meet the definition of murder in SC – “murder” is the killing of any person with malice aforethought, either express or implied.

              Eight shots at someone running out of Taser range would seem to imply enough.

              That they were involved in a physical altercation prior to the shooting may be a mitigating circumstance per SC Statute, which means no death penalty.

            3. Well, given that most of the time, when cops kill people while on duty, it’s the result of bad judgmen in the heat of the moment rather than premeditation, it would be surprising if they got anything more than manslaughter.

              1. I understand why it gets plead down, but perjury to cover up manslaughter can boil down the whims of the jury and, as I understand it (IANAL), can be used to infer malice.

            4. the California Officer who shot the man in the BART station recently recievd a 30 year sentence. So it does happen

    2. Read this one and see if it’s any better.
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      My guess is that it’s not as bad, the cops after all were shooting a kid in the back who had just bought an illegal gun, right? But tell me this: where was the gun at the time the cops shot him? It may very well be the usual shitty reporting (like everything the cops say is reported as fact and anything anybody else says is reported as a “claim”) that fails to say whether or not the kid dropped the gun and ran or if he had the gun in his hand or whether or not the cops even knew at the time that there was a gun involved, but you might think if the kid actually had a gun in his hand that that would play a prominent part in the reporting. Given the absence of such prominence, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the kid did not have the gun in his hand at the time he was shot in the back. But make sure we all know he was a bad kid so we don’t get the idea that cops shooting people in the back for failure to obey the command to stop is maybe not a Good Thing.

    3. I think it’s time to take guns away from cops until they can show they can use them like a grown up.

  2. “Cameras don’t lie.”

    They just add ten pounds.

    1. They don’t lie, but they don’t tell the whole truth, either. Weren’t there multiple camera angles on that San Francisco cop killing the prone guy in the subway, and depending on which video people watched, their interpretations were different (maybe not 180 deg, but different)?

      1. that office got a 30 year sentence.

    2. “How many cameras are on you?”

  3. This is such a perfect example of how dangerous it can be to interact with cops for any reason. This guy got executed for running away. That’s it. So if you got pulled over by this guy and mistook what he wanted you to do, he might just fucking shoot you. Because he felt like it.

    1. Why’d he run? He knew the guy was a cop. Everybody knows that if you don’t do what the cop says, you get whatever is coming to you. Everybody knows that.

      1. Because he had money for a Mercedes-Benz, but not child support?

      2. Why DID he run? And isnt this supposed to be a traffic stop? Where is the road, the Mercedes, the cop car? where are they, how did they get there and why? Why did the officer use the taser in the first place? Why was there a “scuffle”? What was happening before the beginning of the video?

        It does appear that the cop was using unnecessary force, but everything about this “traffic stop” seems odd, for instance there doesn’t appear any traffic stop at all.

    2. Not long ago I was stopped for a broken headlight. The cop took the opportunity to look through my car without asking to search by asking me to roll down my rear windows since they were darkly tinted. The tint’s great for blocking the blinding floodlights they use btw. Although it sucks because I can hardly see when backing up at night. Anyways, I was tempted to say no, but of course I thought better of it. The exchange was friendly enough.. relatively speaking, but strangely he asked me several questions. Dunno if he was trying to fish for anything suspicious.

    3. This what the copsuckers refuse to get: you can be executed for any reason whatsoever. And you can be sure that the cops will lie and lie to cover their asses.

      You don’t have to be doing anything. You can be looking at a toy gun in a store. You can be whittling while walking down the street. You can just be standing there while an invisible gun suddenly materializes in your hand. BLAMBLAMBLAM.

      All you need is to spook on the idiot sheep, who then calls the cops. Just as Tamir Rice.

      1. Yeah, that’s my entire point. It’s that you don’t know what you’re going to get. You could get pulled over for a (supposedly) broken taillight, like this guy, and end up dead. You could be completely innocent. You could literally do nothing–to the extent of not following some confusing command–and end up dead if the cop is paranoid/trigger happy enough.

        So basically, in our “modern”, enlightened world, I have a non-trivial chance of being randomly killed by a cop for either doing nothing or something minor that no sane person would ever think warranted deadly force. That’s a fucked up thing considering we pay their fucking salaries.

        1. I think you need to understand, most people, in their deepest, darkest hearts, the parts they don’t talk about in polite company, think that “refusing to obey an authorized agent of the state” is a legitimate reason to kill somebody.

          Had a guy explain it to me like this. “If the cops can’t shoot at someone for a non-trivial offense, then they really don’t have the threat factor to force people to comply. Sure, they could beat the shit out of somebody and subdue them, but then you liberals…” (he was directing this to me – apparently being against cop violence makes me a progtard, but I digress) …”would cry foul about that, as well. So they’re in a no-win situation. And it is important that people understand they have to obey them in all things, because if you get people just picking and choosing what laws they want to follow, you get…”

          At this point in the game, I’ll let you choose your own adventure. The last thing he said was,

          a) a better world.
          b) a more sane and rational relationship between the state and it’s citizens
          c) anarchy

          1. a) a better world.
            b) a more sane and rational relationship between the state and it’s citizens
            c) anarchy

            I’ll take what are synonyms for 1000, Alex

            1. Best answer today. You have won today’s internet.

            2. That’s just well done.

            3. brilliant. well done sir

            4. TAKE MINE AS WELL YOU AWESOME MAN.

              *THROWS INTERNETS*

              TAKE MORE, FFS!

              *THROWS MORE INTERNETS*

              +1^10293810237089570

              -FFM

          2. “(he was directing this to me – apparently being against cop violence makes me a progtard, but I digress)…”

            No, but using “progtard” does make it clear you’re a “moron.”

            1. aw did he hurt yo feewings?

            2. Right, everyone knows the proper term is “proglodyte”.

        2. And the bitch of it is, this is a nice guy that I play freaking Risk and now StarWars Armada with. He’s not a nutjob, or a fascist, or anything like that. Just a normal dude who believes in the Thin Blue Line between a hellish netherworld where the living envy the dead, and our current world, where a few eggs have to get broken to make the goddamn omlettes.

          1. With all due respect, he isn’t a nice guy with nutjob or fascist tendencies, he’s a nutjob fascist with nice tendencies. Sociopaths and serial killers have friends and social lives. Sammy “The Bull” Gravano is a charming, personable guy with a wife and kids.

            1. I get what you’re saying, but I think that sort of attitude is way too widespread to be chalked up to being a nut. I mean, pretty much all my friends are normal, church-going folks who bitch about the gov’t, high taxes, regulatory burden, and all that (I should point out I live in Texas) and the attitude I encounter from them all the time is, “Well why was he running? Why didn’t he just do what the police asked? If he had, he’d be alive right now. It’s entirely his fault.”

              And much as I hate to speak ill of the dead, my father’s attitude was the same way.

              1. Yeah,I made the mistake of getting into an argument on real clear policy last night about police violence. Because I was against it, that meant I was a liberal Obama voter. Dumb assess also told me the trades were for losers and that 10th graders could construct and maintain buildings; so I probably shouldn’t have taken them too seriously…

              2. ” normal, church-going folks”

                yes, because having imaginary friends in 2015 is “normal”

                holy shit dude, you have the same problem as your “friend”

                *cough*

                friend

                *cough*

                -FFM

            2. Fascist tendencies, sure. Nutjob? We’re all at risk of getting comfortable having shit done for us. That’s the horrible allure of an all encompassing government. A person with a wife and kids and mortgage and 401k and ohmygodI’mdoingeverythingrightinlife has a lot to lose and can justify just as much thinking it’s what is required to protect it. But modernity and regular staple of statist messaging has most believing WE don’t bear the ultimate responsibility of protecting it. So we outsource that protection and then think the worst of those who get caught in the meatgrinder so we can fucking sleep at night – comfortable.

          2. this is a nice guy that I play freaking Risk and now StarWars Armada with

            DORK ALERT

            1. Hey…that Armada game is pretty fucking fun.

              Still won’t replace my precious Warhammer though.

              1. Yeah well, Risk was never the same after Kramer and Newman.

                1. +1 road apple

                2. Ukraine is weak……..

                  1. I come from Ukraine, you not say Ukraine weak.

          3. Then I take exception to your characterization of normal guys as not being nut jobs or fascists.

            1. Granted, you’re probably correct. Normal people in this day and age are fascists.

        3. So basically, in our “modern”, enlightened world, I have a non-trivial chance of being randomly killed by a cop

          This sounds a lot like what cops say to justify their own irrational fears.

          1. except that cops arent dying by the hundreds every year………..

            yet….

            -FFM

            1. There are fewer cops, so I suspect the risk per 1,000 is greater for cops than the public.

              Those who castigate cops for generating an environment of fear which justifies their overreaction should probably not engage in the same act.

        4. I recently hears a derpprog on the radio say he was annoyed at people who keep saying we pay their (police) salaries.

          1. Heard. But I like ‘hears’ better now that I see it.

            1. If you were a fraternity then charter revoked…

          2. Maybe the LEO who you heard was in the US and has been rockin’ those RICO confiscations so heavy that he feels he more than pays his own salary.

          3. He’s probably annoyed because he doesn’t make enough money to pay anything in taxes (income tax, anyway).

  4. “When you’re wrong, you’re wrong,” North Charleston Mayor Keith Summey said after viewing the recording. “When you make a bad decision, don’t care if you’re behind the shield or a citizen on the street, you have to live with that decision.”

    Imagine this guy as Attorney General in a Paul administration!

    Hey, a guy can dream.

    1. I have to admit, this is the most direct and honest statement I’ve ever heard from an elected official about an egregious case like this.

  5. Scott took off on foot, apparently because he had an outstanding warrant for failure to pay child support.

    Well, now. Shooting him dead should help to bring that child support current.

    1. As a victimprovider of child support, the thing that makes me laugh is all the potential penalties – not one of which are capable of fixing the purported problem.

      1. Those remedies manage to transmute the child support into government support though. And what does that prove?

        The program is working.

      2. My favorite is jailing people for nonsupport–bringing back the old system of debtor’s prison. (Remember when we were in school, and our teachers told us that debtor’s prisons used to exist, but that they were abolished because people woke up to the realization that, if you put a debtor in prison, he’s never going to be able to earn any money and pay off the debt? Well, our masters have forgotten that lesson.)

    2. Given the state of family law and a man’s position before the law in support cases, I think the cop should go with the defense that it was a mercy killing.

  6. There’s video footage of Kelly Thomas being beaten to death by police officers; how did that turn out?

    1. Bad, but much better than without video footage. We’ll have to see how this turns out.

    2. not racist enough to make prime time

      1. Great point.

      2. Yep. Didn’t fit the narrative of a racist bad-apple.

        1. It was reported on 24-7 in California. It had every bit of media coverage and outrage to get a conviction. The judge gave bad instructions and the jury shit the bed during the Thomas trial.

          But the media was actually all over it.

          1. Fair enough… but you certainly didn’t see the post-facto outrage like the Garner issue…which, interestingly enough, was sort of ignored when the choking death actually happened, and was revived as a pile-on issue during the Michael Brown freakout.

  7. ” Scott is not menacing Slager but is instead running away as the officer fires his weapon.”

    Nothing says “imminent threat” like a man running away from you

    1. Well eventually he would’ve run all the way around the world and crushed the back of that working class hero’s skull. Good shoot. Smooches.

    2. He was clearly running to the garbage can behind which he had stashed his cop killing weapon with body-armor penetrating rounds.

    3. Uh, he was going to make me run to catch him and then as I was out of breath he would cleverly spring at me with his bare hands. Wouldn’t you have felt threatened too?

      /officer lazy dumbass

      1. That 50 year old man was clearly a long distance running champion who would have put the 33yr old police officer into risk of cardiac arrest.

        Christ, he could have just power-walked behind the guy for about 3 minutes before the dude surrendered, unable to wheeze any further.

        1. Sounds like a case for Speed Walker!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRuRYvJkCQ

    4. Imminent threat of escape. That’s why it takes 8 rounds in the back.

    5. Target was preparing an ambush of LEO when neutralized to preserve respect for authority.
      Good shoot, 5% bonus for heart.

  8. Heard the cop boss say ‘one in 343 cops did this’.

    The thing I wonder is how many among the 343 would be like this ‘one’ outlier?

    1. Every last one of them will support Slager wholeheartedly though. That’s for absolutely certain.

  9. Charged doesn’t mean convicted.

    Likely he’ll waive his right to a jury trial and get a sympathetic judge, or his buddies will stare down the jury. Either way, I don’t see anything coming of this other than a long vacation for the officer followed by being rehired with back pay.

    I hope I’m wrong.

    1. I think this might be one of those rare cases where the cop at least gets punished, if not to the extent that a “civilian” would. It does happen sometimes. And the city isn’t even defending the guy. That’s not a good sign for him. We shall see.

      1. Kind of sad that that passes for optimism.

    2. I think either SC will dole oit justice or the feds will. He isn’t walking away from this. Somebody has to pay sometime and he’s already being sent down that road by his superiors.

      1. Not a bad system. At least one crimminalized gets punished.

        One police officer each year will be randomly selected from the list of all cops with confirmed kills, and will prosecuted and punished as any normal citizen.

  10. Isn’t “I feared for my safety/life” now a *given* in any encounter with the public? Seems a new expression would be in, um, order.

    1. And (probably more legitimately) in any encounter with a cop. But it doesn’t go both ways, apparently.

      1. Yeah it can. There was a video that I believe was posted here that showed a black family standing up to some cops who wanted to search the place, claiming a suspect may have ran through.
        At one point one of the cops threatened to drag a resident out of his home, and his response was “You do that and I will fear for my life.” The cop backed off. It was beautiful.

        1. Link(s)?

    2. ‘Look out, its coming right for us!’ got used one too many times.

  11. In the 1985 case Tennessee v. Garner, the Supreme Court said the Fourth Amendment allows police to shoot at a fleeing suspect only when he “poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others.” It seems unlikely that Scott, a nonviolent offender who was armed at most with a weapon that is supposed to be nonlethal, fit that description.

    He had nothing in his hands when he was shot. If you’ll note, the taser is knocked/thrown to the ground at the murder’s feet.

    1. The cop claimed he was being attacked with his own taser before the video came out, which shows him planting the taser on the body.

  12. I never eat a pig cause a pig is a cop. Or better yet a Terminator like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    1. “I never eat a pig cause a pig is a cop. Or better yet a Terminator like Arnold Schwarzenegger.”

      Chumby, you came to get down?

      Do not, I repeat, do not, jump around near the likes/sights of Officer Slager.

  13. the Mercedes-Benz sedan Scott was driving had a broken brake light.

    Like I’m gonna take a cop’s word for that. I expect the car was impounded, so if it didn’t have broken tail light at the time, I have no doubt that one of our New Professionals has made damn sure it does now.

    1. Really, did the cop punch in his plate #? or better yet, was the cruiser equipped with an automatic plate reader? I’m sure that the plate # is associated with the registered owner, and an arrest warrant out on the RO would show up on the monitor.

    2. “Broken tail light” is basically cop for “driving funny” or “looks like he’s up to no good”. That’s not hyperbole, either; I know more than a few cops, and “broken tail light” gives you a reason to pull someone over if you don’t have any otherwise-legal reason to do so. Typically, you just issue a work order and call it a day. Worst-case scenario, you get into an argument with the driver about whether the light actually works, then cuff him for disorderly. If it’s ever called into question, you can just say that it didn’t look like it was working when the guy was driving and he must have replaced a fuse or something since, or it was a weird electrical issue or something.

      1. Black guy in a Mercedes MUST be up to no good, amiright?

        1. Well, they keep stopping Chris Rock.

  14. Remember, the argument for gun control is that if we were to allow just regular ol’ citizens to carry firearms in public places–or at all–there would be chaos in the streets. People would just shoot people for no good reason, just like in The Purge. Only government authorized police can be trusted to carry weapons responsibly.

    Think about that and take a look at the still image above and try not to lose your shit. I’m drinking to manage my urge to go choke a Progressive to death, and I’m trying not to think unkind thoughts about the recently-deceased Sarah Brady.

    1. Go ahead and think ’em. She was a mendacious cunt who loved her some totalitarian statism. By any means necessary….

      1. fuck yes! you sir are my new favorite person.

        fuck Ms Brady and her crippled husband in their asses, along w/ that war on drugs loving cunt Nancy Reagan, evil assholes, burn in the hell you all believed in!

        yaaaaaaaaaa!

        exactly what i was thinking.

        -FFM

    2. How did you morons blame this one on Progressives? Granted, the Progressives who sat on their arses while feminism has increasingly adopted the tactics of the authoritarian right have a lot to answer for, but this seems like a stretch even by your low standards.

      1. i mocked you above, but agree with you here. police violence isnt a team red/blue issue.

      2. They as aren’t blaming the above on progressives.

        They are pointing out how progressives always say guns are bad in the hands of non-LEOs because non-LEOs are not trained well enough or are not trustworthy. But here is an example (among many) that shows LEOs are not necessarily well trained nor trustworthy – at least not so much that we should trust them any more than the average Joe with a gun and probably less.

  15. Democratically implemented laws aren’t backed by force.

  16. Sorry kiddies, but I believe that science will vindicate the officer. Here is why:

    It’s called the reaction gap…that is…the time something is perceived as a threat until the time that it is not. It takes on average .58 seconds to determine if a threat is real. Then .56 to 1.00 seconds to make a response decision. This is about the time frame from when Mr. Scott when from struggling to gain control of the tasar to running and the officer drew on him and commenced firing.

    Now, the next part: perception lag. It takes .56 of a second for an officer to make a decision to commence shooting. An officer can squeeze the trigger every .25 to .31/100’s of a second. And it takes an officer .5 to .6 seconds to realize that the threat has passed and to stop shooting.

    The total number of seconds from the time the perp cut and run and 7 shots fired was 2 seconds. The eighth tailed by a second.

    Fits in the usual reaction gap – perception lag theory. But more accurate than Global Warming.

    1. Does “science” mean “complete and utter horseshit” in your country?

      1. Don’t entertain the antichrist.

      2. The progressive’s recipe for a nice batch of “tasty” custom science calls for first tossing Scientific Method into the crapper then replacing it with huge quantities of “complete and utter horseshit.”

        1. I spread my horse’ shit around and grow things with it. You seem to be mired in yours.

  17. Remember this guy? One of the articles mentions the incident so I looked it up to see how it’s going.

    1. I’m still totally flabbergasted that the guy, shot in the hip by Supercop, actually referred to the scumbag pig as “sir”. I would at a minimum be developing entirely new realms of profanity in his shoes, and would probably get shot again. Which makes that guy an absolute genius when it comes to dealing with rogue police.

  18. S.C. Code 56-5-4730 requires only one working tail lamp.

    1. Sounds like S.C.’s Code 56-5-4730 actually grants the employer/boss/citizen the benefit of the doubt.

    2. Well, the law doesn’t matter so long as the cop’s ignorance of the law is “reasonable” (or whatever BS term SCOTUS used in that recent decision about a search predicated on a misunderstanding on the cop’s part of traffic laws).

  19. Robert Ford thought he’d be a hero for a back shooting James in 1882. Didn’t work out as Bobby hoped. Still doesn’t 133 years later. Can they ever learn? Back shooters are cowards; period.

  20. Another great example of how all laws, including those for paying child support, can ultimately lead to death.

    1. Just don’t call the cops [unless your intention is to have someone deredrum].

  21. if one of you private citizens had a weapon snatched away from you on your own property and you had another weapon that could stop the thief, would you shoot that person to retrieve what was rightfully yours? Well, since he’s a cop and is sworn to protect the public, does he not have the same rights while doing his job in public?

    -PBA Attorney

    1. If it was a non-lethal weapon he snatched, then no, I would not shoot him, because I know the laws in my state with regard to use of lethal force and I know the system would crucify me if I shot a guy in the back running away with my taser (or without my taser, having dropped it before fleeing).

  22. When the fuck did PoliceOne.com block access to their news article comments from non-members?

    Given the gay cake hysteria, is it possible their restricting access to LEOs only is illegal?

    1. “Legal” is entirely dependent upon one’s politics.

    2. It’s been a month at least. Which pisses me off.

      Probably found out a lot of people were reading their venom and decided that people actually reading what cops think about “civilians” wasn’t gonna be good for their image of lord-protectors of the realm.

      1. I’m so fortunate to live in a county with pretty damn good LEOs. For the most part they don’t even leave the hive unless they have legitimate call to do so. This local is proof that pro-active policing only creates trouble where there was none. Generally the citizenry is well capable of policing itself the vast majority of the time.

        1. If I have my druthers, we’ll move out to hill country soon and get into a county with two or three constables and nothing else but state police. Fort Worth is teeming with them.

        2. I think its a matter of definition.

          For me, pro-active policing is getting out and being *seen* – don’t even need to get out of the car, just let people know you’re nearby.

          Something I learned working as a security guard years ago: 99% of the time your mere presence is enough to prevent anything from happening.

          Unfortunately too many police think pro-active policing is getting out and hammering people on every little thing – especially since its all revenue enhancing.

          Cops don’t seem to understand it, but its the damn drug war that has ramped up their danger (from near non-existent to slight) because every interaction now has the chance of a felony record attached to it.

  23. A bunch of racist copsuckers from a group called “Culture Fight” put up a fundraiser for this murdering cop. After getting no donations in about an hour (and a lot of people calling them out on twitter), the fundraiser has unceremoniously been taken down.

    Though it does prove that no matter what a cop does, no matter how obvious the crime, copsuckers gonna suck.

    1. Interesting. No link to Twitter or anything?

        1. It’s amazing how something as small as 140 characters can induce such a large pile of vomit.

  24. . . . Mercedes-Benz sedan Scott was driving had a broken brake light.

    See – this is why the cop is going to get off easy.

    SInce its not illegal to have *a* broken taillight (they come in *pairs* for a reason), there was no pretext for the stop. But . . .

    The officer was operating under a *reasonable mistake of the law* when he forced the stop. He was also operating under a reasonable mistake of the law when he assumed that a fleeing suspect was fair game for lethal force simply because, *earlier* he had tried to grab one of the officer’s *non-lethal* weapons.

    We have all operated on the assumption that once the lethal force ‘barrier’ has been broken you’re good as long as you pull the trigger within a couple of minutes – even if the target is no longer a threat, or even actively surrendering.

    So this good officer really just needs some retraining.

  25. look carefully, and you can see the officer bring the taser to the dead suspect, and place it near his body. I guess that is where the claim that the victim grabbed his taser came from.

  26. Because whites of good conscience — most whites — of all political stripes will agree that the officer was in the wrong, you won’t see this blown up by the usual suspects into a Ferguson-like circus calling for the officer’s head. Too little opportunity to paint their opponents as racist.

  27. Cold blooded murder. Think of all of the lies and corruption that cops, judges, and the attorneys must engage in everyday around the country. From speeding tickets to drug busts to murder, think of all the people who must have been screwed for years and years. And please don’t be too quick to advocate for dash cams and body cams- these can and have been manipulated to show the officer’s conduct in the fairest light possible. They will charge you for violating a law that was declared unconstitutional decades ago. I hope is convicted and gets 3 hots and a cot- and by that I mean 3 fiery ass-rapes per day and a cotton swab to put on it. Now for a joke: You know how law enforcement rubes love to come up with shitty acronyms? They have a new acronym, just introduced to the medical community, for incidents like this. It is FUCKED- Fucking Useless Cops Keep Executing Dudes.

  28. We don’t need a law requiring Police to wear body cameras. If we had one to would be just one more minor law they flouted when convenient. What we need is a law that says that if a policeman injures or kills a citizen, and the incident is NOT captured on video, the Policeman’s testimony is inadmissible.

  29. But a bystander shot video that shows Slager firing eight rounds at a fleeing Scott, striking him in the back.

    Do we really need video to tell us he had eight holes in his back?

    1. Actually, there were only five holes out of eight rounds fired. I’m out of practice and I can still shoot better than that.

  30. To see the most positive possible spin from the police point of view, head on over the the Police One web site:

    http://www.policeone.com/polic…..owing-OIS/
    Video: SC cop charged with murder following OIS

    “A North Charleston, S.C. police officer was charged with murder on Tuesday after a cell phone video obtained by the New York Times showed the officer open fire on a fleeing suspect after a scuffle.

    Officer Michael T. Slager, 33, was engaged in a scuffle with Walter L. Scott, 50, Saturday following a traffic stop for a broken taillight. The man took the officer’s ECD and took off, when the officer opened fire multiple times, fatally wounding Scott.

    According to the NY Times, the officer reportedly said he feared for his life because the man had possession of the ECD.”

    Note how they automatically parrot the cop’s claim that the guy had his Taser, even though the video shows the cop picking up the Taser, walking over, and dropping it next to the body.

    Here’s another cop forum excusing the murder:
    http://forums.officer.com/t199100/

    1. I see that I must become a cop now to read their comments. They can’t have the civilians peering into the darkness that is a cop’s psyche.

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  32. This case of murder is the exception, not the rule. The FBI says any person is 5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a white person. According to the latest U.S. statistics from 2013, for every 100 people who committed homicide, 45 offenders were white and 52 offenders were black. (see Table 43 from the FBI)

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cj…..he-u.s/201 tv3/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

    For every 100 people in the U.S., 62 people are white and 13 black. There are 4.7 times the number of white people than black.

    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

    The ratio of murderers is 45:52, or 0.8 white to 1 black. The ratio of American people is 62:13, or 4.7 white to 1 black.

    4.7 ? 0.8 = 5.8

    The probability of anyone to be killed by a black person is 5.8 times higher than a white person.

    You can’t refute government statistics.

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    1. These numbers famously leave out the vast majority of police shootings. Take a look at Fatal Encounters and the Puppycide Database Project.

    2. This case of murder is the exception, not the rule.

      And your point is…?

      You can’t refute government statistics.

      HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    3. You use a thread about a white cop murdering a black man to announce you are a racist cunt? Bold move.

    4. Fuck off, ‘Murican. You’re still, and always will be, our worst and most disgusting troll.

  33. “When you’re wrong, you’re wrong,” North Charleston Mayor Keith Summey said after viewing the recording. “When you make a bad decision, don’t care if you’re behind the shield or a citizen on the street, you have to live with that decision.”

    Yeah but whether or not you’re “behind the shield” determines whether or not you’ll be living with that decision behind bars or out in society.

  34. Don’t run from cops or man up to people with guns. Stupid decision will get you killed.

    The cop also shouldn’t have used his gun.

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  36. Update – the victim did not take the taser. It was planted by the cop after them victim was shot in the back at least 4 times.

  37. they only arrested him and charged him to keep idiots from rioting. I’ve seen the video and this officer may get off yet.

  38. The man was running away when shot. The cop executed him and should spend the rest of his life in prison. He is a murderer period. The event shows the value of video since the one from the bystander also shows the cop attempting to frame the man he killed. This is a cop who should have never been allowed to have a badge, much less a gun.

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