Economics

Dynamism and Durability Are Great Features of Capitalism

A lesson in basic economics courtesy of an old Toyota.

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The odometer on my 1999 Toyota Camry hit 100,000 earlier this week. It triggered a small family celebration and some reflection on what might be learned from the achievement.

One takeaway is that newer isn't always better.

You don't have to be an adherent of Judaism (older than Christianity or Islam) or a graduate of Harvard (founded in 1636) to understand that friendships, marriages, books, and ideas that pass the test of age often—not always, but often—endure because of quality.

This is a point John Kennedy made in his first congressional campaign, defending capitalism and freedom against socialism and communism, when he said, "We, in this country, must be willing to do battle for old ideas that have proved their value with the same enthusiasm that people do for new ideas and creeds."

One can take that insight to illogical extremes, of course—I'm not driving around town in a Model T Ford, or riding on horseback. But as a corrective to our national obsession with the newest and latest, it's worth keeping in mind.

Status isn't all it's cracked up to be. A lot of the fashionable critiques of modern capitalism fall apart when tested against the hard steel factual counterexample of my beige Toyota. Overleveraged? Nope, I own it outright. Advertising feeding excessive brand-consciousness? Nope, even the "T"-shaped Toyota logo on that would be on the front grille of the car is missing. It was stolen overnight when I had the car parked on the street in Brooklyn (a couple of blocks away from Bill de Blasio's house, but during the Bloomberg mayoralty), and I never bothered either to report the loss to the police or to have the hood ornament replaced.

One thing that matters more than what brand of car you drive is family. I pretty much came by my attitude toward cars from my father, who placed driving a new car lower on the priority list than saving or spending on other things, like education. The Toyota itself came to me originally used as a gift from my mother, who inherited it from her mother.

The Camry made it to 100,000 miles with help from a couple of good mechanics, one in Brooklyn where I used to live, another in Boston where I now live. The relationship of trust between a car-owner and a mechanic is an example of capitalism at its best: voluntary mutual exchange of value, specialization, the accumulation of knowledge.

And so long as we're talking Adam Smith, let's not forget David Ricardo, either. It's a Japanese car, after all, and the opening of the American car market to Japanese competition has improved quality and reduced costs for American motorists while creating jobs and wealth in Japan. That's the benefit of free trade. Camrys, so far as I can tell, are actually manufactured by the Japanese company here in the U.S., in Kentucky. Even American states have their comparative advantages, and Kentucky's "right-to-work" laws banning compulsory union membership made it more hospitable to foreign auto factories than the laws of other places, such as, say, Detroit.

I posted the picture of the odometer at 100,000 to Facebook, a company whose founder wasn't even old enough to drive when the Camry first rolled off the assembly line. On the trip when the digits turned, I passed a truck loaded with brand new Teslas, cars made by another company that didn't even exist when my Camry was first made. Dynamism is one of the great features of capitalism. But so is durability.

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  1. Pfffft. Amateur. 532K miles. But it is a Toyota.

    1. Wow. The most mileage I ever had on a car was 300K on a Volvo 240. I pawned it off on a hipster for way more than it was worth about a year ago.

      1. If there is one group that will reliably pay far more for something than it’s worth, it is SWaPLle hipsters. You could jar a bunch of orphan mucus from that one lad that began hemmoraging mucus in the mines last week and sell it to a hipster for $15 as a jar of handcrafted artisinal mayonnaise.

      2. 270K in yet another Jeep Cherokee XJ. Gonna be time to replace the timing chain at 300K (recommended replacement interval) to be ready for the next 300K

    2. Was it a 92-96 Camry? That was quite possibly the best car toyota made, quality wise apart from the LS400.

      My 01 Lexus (straight 6) has 120k, and my 88 Saab convertible has 90k, but it is about to break in half from structural rust 🙁 They routinely go 300K miles.

      My 84 Trans Am also has just 90K miles, but thats bc it was put away for half of its life. 1 owner car and manual:)

      1. Also, look at where Car companies are building factories. Mississippi, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama. There was a big bruhaha at VWs Chattanooga plant over unionization. The japanese and german mfrs are very, very smart to build in right to work states.

      2. My ’87 Saab 9000 had well over 200k miles when it finally went tits-up. . .
        My wife and I have a ’94 Chevy with 150k miles, and recently bought (as in, just got the change-over and insurance today) an ’88 Corolla with 193k miles on it.

        I’m looking at a ’72 Vega right now. . . thinking of doing the smallblock V8 mod like we did in the late 70s. . .

        If it has wireless anything in it, or computer-controlled over-rides on any of the controls. . . you’ll never catch me driving it.

  2. And that dynamism was never meant to include “To Big To Fail”.

  3. “The Camry made it to 100,000 miles with help from a couple of good mechanics,…”

    You had to take a Camry to TWO mechanics before it got to 100,000 miles?? Must have been a lemon. There’s a reason every other car on the road is a Honda or Toyota.

    You know who else was in favor of a “people’s car”?

    1. Toyota and Honda reliability aren’t what they once were.

      1. My 2005 Camry has 186k. That may not scream reliability, but it’s at least a loud voice.

      2. Maybe not but I’d still drive a reasonably maintained Corolla with 150k on the clock across the Sonoran desert before I’d drive most brand new “Big 3” subcompacts!

      3. Neither is the past.

      4. They gained their reputation because domestics in the 80s and the 90s weren’t exactly put together with the best care.

        People want an appliance that can go 150K miles on just oil changes. Thats what Toyota and Honda gave them.

        1. Sadly, rustproofing wasnt exactly great in the 80s in Japanese makes. This is where Audi, Volvo, Saab, Porsche and Mercedes come ahead. I know Audis were galvanized then, and 911s were since 76.

          Domestics where simple and robust. Ask anybody with a GM car with the 3.8L V6.

    2. You know who else was in favor of a “people’s car”?

      Every socialist ever, From Hitler to Maduro?

      Hitler got lucky with the Volkswagen – if the Nazis had actually gotten full control of the economy, people would be talking about Bugs like they talk about Ladas and Citroens.

      1. But everyone would have had one.

        Or a coupon book for one.

        1. Anybody who hasnt has to watch James May’s cars of the people 3 part series. It elaborates well with the Beetle, trabant and Lada in the 1st episode. Its all on Dailymotion.

          1. That is a great series. As much about socialism as it is about cars. More, really. It chronicles the attractions and inevitable failures of statism. Too bad our progressive overlords in the white house didn’t watch it before they bailed out Detroit. Or, maybe they did.

  4. that has to be lowest miled Toyota I’ve ever heard of.

    1. Seriously! 100k miles in 15 years? I’m not very impressed with that longevity. My 2011 Jeep has 67k miles and runs great.

  5. I bet a dynamic capitalist could use one of the numerous of the shelf solutions to create a comments section that remains stable from one minute to the next.

    1. If nothing else, the lack of an edit button is a testament to the local commentariat’s durability.

  6. Top Gear did a segment a while ago on “Did communism ever make a good car?”. They had some pretty damning examples of Statist engineering and design, too.

    And P. J. O’Rourke once pointed out that ultimately, we won the Cold War because nobody wanted to wear Soviet shoes.

    But when you get right down to it Communism, Socialism, and the other flavors of “Put the Best Minds? in charge of everything” are not new ideas anymore. They were dressed in new jargon, but they are really the Old Idea of “all you peasants belong to the State, and had better bloody well do as you are told”.

    Suffer not the Old King, under any name.

    1. The Soviets even took what (for Europe) was actually a pretty good car, the Fiat 124, and managed to make a complete piece of shit.

      Still, the Lada was the best they could manage, and they only managed that because the Western capitalist pig-dogs supplied them the machinery and showed them how to make it.

      1. And how long do you think a Toyota would be built to last if the feds weren’t there to issue regulations on automobiles? See, without the benevolent guiding hand of the state, Toyota would just build crap exactly like the Lada.

        1. They kinda do now.

          1. No they don’t.

            I don’t know what’s got you panties in a wad about Toyota but you claims are bullshit.

            1. I’ve only ever met one person who had issues with his Toyota, and that had something to do with his crossing dozens of miles of mountainous terrain in it daily for about a year. Apart from that, even laypeople (in relation to cars) note how reliable they are, generally (in my experience).

          2. You must be confusing Toyota with British Rover.

        2. I hope you’re just joking. When all Toyotas were being built in Japan they obviously had no US Fed regulations to meet.

          Even after they began US import they still didn’t have the Fed regulatory burden that US manufacturers did.

          At one point they were so much better cars than American made they adopted a voluntary import quota to head off Congressional action. Without the voluntary quotas the US builders would have gone bankrupt without Congressional action to stop or lower import levels. imagine how embarrassing that would have been to US pride.

          However, that applied to cars only. On the little Toyota trucks they were allowed to import as many as they wanted because they paid a 25% import duty. Even with a 25% import duty they were still price competitive with US small truck and still built much better.

          1. When all Toyotas were being built in Japan they obviously had no US Fed regulations to meet.

            WTF?

            Every car sold in the US has to meet US Federal regulations no matter where it is built.

            1. But not where it is *sold* – which is what he means about ‘being built in Japan’.

              1. Actually I was referring to both.

                They had to meet US regulations as far as auto standards. They didn’t have to meet US Union standards of construction or operations.

                All they had to do was make a product to US standards.

                They didn’t have to do it in the US.

                Doing it outside of the US proved to be easier and much more profitable then doing it in the US.

          2. My ’02 Ranger has 208k miles on it and still runs well. It was $4k less than a 4 cylinder regular cab Tacoma – it is a 4-door crew cab with 4L V6. YMMV.

            1. Tacos are among the best vehicles ever made. Close to being in the same league as 911s, Volvo 240s, and MB W123 E class.

              1. just stay away from their manual transmissions on the Tacoma. My friend had one for a few months and hated it. He even traded it in for an older model with an automatic. And this guy LOVES manual transmissions. So that’s saying something.

      2. Has everyone forgotten the Yugo?

        The Yugo was so great it actually was imported to the US.

        A cable show I saw showed a guy who paid $3,500 for a Yugo as a gag gift for his son as a fake going off to college graduation present. That’s close to what they sold for new.

        When the kid saw it he started sputtering and gasping. His younger brother started laughing and repeating, ” You’re getting a Yugo. You’re getting a Yugo”.

        1. I wasn’t forgetting the Yugo, it just wasn’t the best car Commies managed to produce, the Lada was.

          The Yugo GV, interestingly, was also a Fiat copy.

          It’s really amazing to me that the Gianni Agnelli put so much effort into helping the Commies establish automobile production and Western Commies thanked him for this by shutting down Fiat’s factories with “strikes” and attempting to murder him and members of his family on several occasions.

          1. +1 for Trabi

      3. Still, the Lada was the best they could manage……

        Ah the Lada….with an engine once described by an automotive sage as sounding “like a coffee can full of bees”!

    2. Precisely one…the Tatra.

      Of course, they cheated by coasting for 50-odd years on Hans Ledwinka’s design.

  7. Holy shit, I pass 100,000 miles in like, 7 years. What kind of red-blooded American takes 16 years to drive 100k? Methinks you’re availing yourself a bit too much of publicly funded mass transit, comrade.

    1. That’s what I was thinking. My truck is a few years newer than that and is closing in on 350K miles.

    2. It was stolen overnight when I had the car parked on the street in Brooklyn

      Living in Brooklyn would probably discourage me from driving too.

      1. For fear of hitting a hipster on a fixie?

    3. My car is 8 years old and hasn’t passed 50k yet. I don’t use public transportation but I do choose to live somewhere where I have short commute. And the first several years I was walking instead of driving.

      1. Communist faggotry, that’s all that is!

        1. That’s rich coming from someone in Oklahoma.

          1. lol that’s south Oklahoma to you humidity-loving Houstonites.

    4. “What kind of red-blooded American takes 16 years to drive 100k?”
      Probably the kind that considers 99% of the US “flyover” country

  8. On the topic of Toyota…

    Top Gear. Killing a Toyota Hilux (Tundra in North America, I think) pick-up truck

    They start with a very used one, and then-

    Drive it down a few flights of stone stairs (outside).

    Scrape it against a stone wall.

    Run it into a tree.

    Tie it to a dock at low tide. The incoming tide breaks it free. They come back at the next low tide and dig it out of the sand where it had been completely immersed for hours.

    Drive it through a shed.

    Drop a small house trailer on it.

    Hit it with a wrecking ball.

    Set fire to it.

    Place it on top of a 20 story apartment building, which is then destroyed with explosives.

    And, finally…

    DRIVE IT BACK TO THE STUDIO UNDER ITS OWN POWER!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk (two parter, part 2 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPnIpjodA8)

    1. The Hilux didn’t have a name in North America. The Tundra is more recent. So are the T100 and Tacoma, for that matter. Hilux was just the Toyota pickup here.

      1. The Hilux is famous in certain circles for being the ‘military vehicle’ of choice in large parts of the Third World. (Check out the “Toyota War” for example.)

      2. Most countries used the Hilux name for the entire life of the series but in North America, the Hilux name was retired in 1976 in favor of Truck, Pickup Truck, or Compact Truck. In North America the popular option package, the SR5 (Sport Rally 5-Speed), was colloquially used as a model name for the truck, even though the option package was also used on other Toyota models like the Corolla. In 1984, the Trekker, the camper version of the Hilux, was renamed as the 4Runner in Australia and North America, and as the Hilux Surf in Japan. In 1995, Toyota introduced a new pickup model, the Tacoma in North America, discontinuing the Hilux/Pickup there.

  9. You know how many jobs you stole by holding onto that thing?

    I can’t be sure, but I bet it’s a lot!

  10. 16 years and 100k miles? That’s like 18-19 months for me.

    Stoll could drive a British car to last that long with those miles/year. Hell, he could probably even get a Dodge to limp along for that long.

    Seriously though, congratulations.

    1. Dodge? I dunno.

      1. Lol. In fairness CryCo is better now under the guide of fiat than it ever was. It was smooth sailing in the 90s with the hot selling Neon, Cirrus/stratus and Intrepid. Not to mention the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee (which AMC did all of the work on).

        Daimler fucked everything up. I’d refuse to buy any CryCo product from 2000-2010. the 300 still uses an 18 year old Mercedes E class Chassis. (not a GOOD mercedes, the w210)

        1. CryCo as you call it has a brand image in the US that still sucks after all the decades of selling a mechanically shitty product who’s sales numbers were based more on easy consumer finance than engineering.
          .

          That’s true for all the US car makers to a degree back in the day, Chrysler just more so than the others. That’s why the Japaneese cleaned their clock and conquered so much market penetration that they have yet to give back up

          1. That depends on what engineering you’re talking about. The K-car wasn’t really a great platform, but it was well-engineered for what they wanted – a low-cost, flexible platform.

            Of course, that means just about jack-all to the consumer – and when they couldn’t manage to get the line-workers to take QA seriously, well…

            That’s how you get ChryCo.

            A real shame, as as SPG_900 says, the Neon, Intrepid, etc. were all really solid, well-done designs.

    2. “[…]Stoll could drive a British car[…]”

      I have a theory that Brit cars are designed to be driven only within 300 miles of the factory.

      1. The only decent British car I’ve driven was a Vauxhall Insignia, and Vauxhall is American-owned anyway (General Motors).

        1. They actually sell the Insignia here. See-Buick Regal. It’s predecessor, the Vectra was the Saturn Aura/ Chevy Malibu

      2. My theory on British cars (after having the Brit roadster bug pretty bad, and believing [falsely] that Land Rovers were the super-whammodine awesomest off-roaders EVAH!!!) is that they (Brits) think electricity is magic, which is why they are functionally incapable of producing a car with reliable electrics.

        They aren’t very good at mechanical design either though…

        1. I’ve never driven a Land Rover, but the way Limeys jerk off about them, I had suspicions it was just bullshit hype.

          1. Yeah, they get all pompus about how us colonials drive big stupid trucks, but they love them some Range Rovers. Also, certain Landrovers used Buick designed blocks from 1962 or so. By the 90s, the tooling was incredibly worn, and that motor was still around in 2002 or so

            1. Wasn’t it different tooling? The early Buick-Olds 215s were die-cast, and the Rover blocks sand cast IIRC.

          2. They aren’t too bad offroad, but they are fatally unreliable. I had 2 Discos, a Ranger Rover, and one of maybe a dozen or so USDOT-approved Defender 110s. Every single one of them had electrical problems. Only one didn’t constantly leak fluids.

            The Range Rover never did anything the Cherokee didn’t do at least as well, if not better, and for less money. Discos are really top-heavy. The Defender would have been pretty great except for everything that made it move. IOW, different engine, tranny, wiring, and diffs and the light weight and very low center of gravity could have made it perfect.

            The unibody Cherokee Sport with the old straight 4.0L and a slight lift (6″ or so) on 33s absolutely mops the floor with any POS Rover ever built, for a lot less. And even with a lift and bigger tires (within reason) you won’t blow the diffs like Rovers are absolutely fucking famous for doing.

            A bone stock Ford Bronco can also easily outperform Rovers. The Bronco had the added advantage in that the frame/tranny/diffs/suspension are actually strong enough that you can do shit with it other than driving offroad (like towing).

        2. Lucas Prince of Darkness

          1. I got out of the BritShit game long before the infamous auction, but P/N 530433 still makes me chuckle.

      3. Second on the crappy Brit electrical systems. I had an Austin Maestro that was possessed by demons, the windows would randomly roll down with no input and refuse to go back up. This is not amusing when driving around rural Wales, where it rains sideways 300 days a year and being stopped in the road by herd of cows or sheep is a daily occurrence.

        1. Are you British? If so, any experience with older Jags?

  11. I’ve had 3 Camry’s. First two no issues, were wreaked. Last one did have some electrical issues early on (wipers and door locks). Have an Altima now. Also, has had electrical issues early on.

    1. “were wrecked”

      This passive voice (a la cops discharging their guns) makes me think there’s a story here. Who wrecked the two cars? Hmmmm?

      1. One not my fault. One technically my fault but why in the hell does someone stop in the middle of the road on solid ice at 530 in the morning to let someone out of a neighborhood when there is no one in front of you for a quarter mile and one car behind you? I wasn’t even going that fast but my front bumper was below her rear bumper which caused way more damage then you woul have thought.

  12. My 1995 Accord is still going–my oldest son owns it now. To date, the only non-wear-and-tear repair under the hood has been the A/C and, around year 17, a radiator replacement. No idea what the miles are, since the odometer stopped working back in 2003, but it’s well over 200,000. Likely in the 250K+ range.

    1. the odometer stopped working back in 2003

      after only 8 years? Honda odometer reliability must be shit

      1. Hondas, at least in the mid-2000s, did have a few underreported issues – especially involving the automatics.

        1. Toyota and Honda make decent cars but the “reliability reputation” comes more from the extreme reliability of the pre-94 cars compared to the competition back then.

          There’s also the demographics of the purchasers (they do the maintenance), the quality of dealer service departments (they do the TSBs), the volume of sales ( you see so many old Ford F150s because they built and sold so many), and they don’t need to fuck around with the model as much year-to-year because they sell so well.

          1. My 1995, as I mentioned, is still running. Where I think Hondas and Toyotas may have declined some is in adding more bells and whistles, all of which increase the opportunity for something to fail. But under the hood, they make fantastic engines.

            We also own a late model Sienna, and it’s a very nice, reliable vehicle.

          2. Had an ’87 Accord, hand-me-down from my dad, to my sister, to my brother, to me. I got it with around 180k miles, put on another 100k in three years (was driving a lot then.) It finally rusted out, the axle slipping off during tow when I donated it circa ’97.

    2. My dad’s 1990 Accord lasted almost 15 years, and those were some tough years which included both me and my brother learning how to drive on it (with the manual transmission, not one of those pussy automatics) and a number of drives back and forth from college. When it finally died, I don’t think you can fault the car; a semi rear ended it on the interstate (my brother, who was driving at the time, was fine, though I can’t say the same for anything that was in the trunk).

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    1. You should go buy a Camry!

      1. $90 every hour working online at home? Only government employees are that comfortable. He’ll go for a Tesla. Or a Chaika.

  14. Kentucky is, sadly, not a right-to-work state.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politic…..work-laws/

    1. Not surprising in mining country.

  15. The relationship of trust between a car-owner and a mechanic is an example of capitalism at its best: voluntary mutual exchange of value, specialization, the accumulation of knowledge.

    Not the best example. I’m the staunchest supporter of free market exchange that you may ever see, but auto mechanics by and large, I’ve not found them to be the most trustworthy lot.

    Of all the professional groups I interact just about every year, from my grocer or my lawyer to the Indian call center employee in Mumbai mysteriously named “Mike”, none have more opportunity, leeway and propensity to rob an uninformed consumer than an auto mechanic. Excluding of course the government connected professional groups that is…

    1. I mean I guess as an example of the “division of labor”…yeah that technically works as would an example using a mobster selling protection to the meak. But as an example of capitalism ‘at it’s best’, I think that there might be two or three better examples out there.

      1. I took my Avenger to a mechanic when it started pulling violently to the left. I was infuriated and panicked, and I was pretty much throwing cash at him to just fucking replace the whole chassis, or whatever. He inspected it, agreed that the problem was enormous, and arranged to repair it. When I showed up two days later to collect it, he told me it was just something with the steering column, apologized for fucking up his initial check, and I only ended up paying a fraction of what he’d asked for initially.

        Good guy.

        1. Yeah that is a good a guy.

  16. A friend celebrated 100K miles in his 124 Fiat (this was a while back). It pretty much collapsed not long after but that pile of iron oxide is STILL better than any crap-box put out by any commie outfit.

    1. 70’s to 80’s FIATs were built from Russian steel – the Italian government was paid in that in exchange for setting up the Togliatti plant that built the VAZ-210X (Lada Riva).

      1. That’s why you still see so many Bravas and X19s on the road, the fine Italian engineering was built with quality Russian steel 😉

        1. Now I understand why you were ragging on Toyota quality upthread.

          You’re a fucking communist idiot who wouldn’t admit the truth if it hit you between the eyes.

        2. I wish my uncle would’ve let me buy his X1/9. Such cool little cars.

  17. My 23-year-old (1992) Toyota MR2 only recently reached 59,000 miles. I’m a big car guy, though, so I’ll pretty much keep restoring it for decades (i.e., the mileage won’t mean anything). Apart from a 1971 Mustang, it’s by far the funnest car I’ve ever driven, and it’s the one I fell in love with.

    I can also tell you guys that Ladas, Volgas, Moskviches, and all of the other shit the communist shitholes of the world churned out are so unconscionably awful, by any standards, that the interior literally possesses the same construction quality as a cheap, sheet-metal shed. I’ve put my foot through the floor of three-month-old Lada before.

    1. If you’re such a big car guy why do you own a little MR2 ?

      *scratches head*

      1. I see what you did there.

        I’m trying to convince the ladies I’ve got nothing to compensate for, unlike that other guy across the street driving his Hummer. He’s a Democrat.

    2. I’ve got 300,000 on my ’73 Mustang.

      Which I don’t drive anymore because it gets 8 mpg, but is fun to drive.

    3. Mr2s (both 1st and second gen) are wonderful driving machines. I really, really want a 1st gen, but they have mostly turned to dust:(

      1. I picked up my pristine Mk2 for $1,400 in British dough. Mk1 specimens are a little more expensive, but you can find good ones in Limey Land.

    4. I’m jonesing for an origami mr2

  18. My auto experience has been just like my politics: bass-akwards from everyone else.

    I’ve had three Toyotas and was inside the engines of all three (one of them three times!). On the other hand, over the past 25 years or so I’ve put over 1.25 million miles on Chevies (S-10 Blazers and Suburbans) with zero problems. I generally run them to about 250k then trade them in. My current one (Blazer #6) is a two-door ZR1 that I go four-wheeling in.

    … Hobbit

    1. My work GM truck has been the same. Hauling engines for 200k+, and very few issues at all.

    2. My 2003 Camry got a huge head gasket problem this year at 184K miles. Pretty much totaled it.

      I wanted it to last much longer.

  19. Is what Japan has really capitalism?

    Currently they have keiretsus, which is sort of the successor to the zaibatsu

    And for various reasons, it’s really, really hard for foreign companies to come into Japan and sell stuff. There are exceptions, like Apple, but those are pretty rare.

  20. My dad bought a Toyota Corolla in 1978’ish, new. NEVER changed the oil, NEVER changed the air filter, only ever topped it off when necessary. I don’t recall it ever having a major repair. It had over 500K miles when my idiot brother drove it to LA from San Diego, and ignored the “low oil” light. Engine seized. It would probably still be on the road today, except for my idiot of a brother. Did I mention he’s a idiot?

    1. So…your brother is an idiot?

  21. Brian Williams’ Camry has 1,563,461 miles on it.

    1. I chuckled at that one.

  22. …100,000? That’s…it?

    I don’t think I’ve owned a car that didn’t have at least 100,000 on it when I got it…I’m currently driving around a 1996 Ford Explorer that has 176,000 or so on it…

    1. The 100,000 miles is low miles on any car we buy club.

  23. Nope, even the “T”-shaped Toyota logo on that would be on the front grille of the car is missing. It was stolen overnight when I had the car parked on the street in Brooklyn

    In a socialist America, it wouldn’t be theft as the car belongs to the people and the person who took it simply appropriated it for a better use than adorning your car.

    1. The logo emblem is probably hanging on some kid’s neck. Got himself a little “T”-bling.

  24. Let’s see – I get company cars every year, and reliably put 50K+ on them annually. My personal vehicles? 2004 Jeep Wrangler, 195K and still going strong, 2000 Ford Ranger, 190K and just fine, 1999 Jeep Cherokee 210K – replacing the brakes now, so it’s on blocks while I finish up that little task. Bike – ’06 ZX14 Ninja with about 17K, ’02 ZRX1200R just crossed 21K today – ’08 Honda XR650 with about 3K on it. Looking for a Ural sidecar to do some more miles in with my dog in the passenger seat 🙂

    Pretty much any modern car will give you 200K if you keep the oil changed and take care of other basic maintenance. The question is how much it will nickel and dime you before it pisses you off so bad you dump it for something new.

    I finally sold my ’93 Mustang – put 135K on it the first four years I had it, then garaged it to about 150K – sold it son-in-law #1 when I started getting the new Mustangs because they spoiled me, and I never drove the old one since I got motorcycles again.

    1. Living without motorcycles isn’t really living.

    2. On the nickel/dime front, this is why I dumped my BMW 328i. Great car, really fun to drive, really comfy…. But things started breaking long before I got to 100k. After the 4th electric window mechanism busted (at $400 a pop to replace) I chucked the thing. Held pretty good value though, since I bought it with 15k miles on it.

      Bought a Hyundai Santa Fe that was every bit the equal of a Japanese or European luxury badge. Great car. That’s why the wife appropriated it shortly after I bought it.

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  26. I bought a 98 Tacoma in 2005 that only had 84,000km on the clock (50k miles) and its still going strong at 400,000km (250k miles). I’ve had to replace certain exhaust components, but other than that, just oil changes and tune-ups. I’ve also oil sprayed it every two years because the MTO have a salt fetish.

    Whilst I’m in Australia, I made the horrific mistake of buying a 93 Hilux SURF that had been imported from Japan. 305,000km on it, but the front suspension is fucked and I’ve had to replace the Fuel pump and ECM in a futile effort to try and sell the bastard.

    That said, there are zillions of old Landcruisers on the road here in Oz, many of which have 400-500,000 km or more on them. Bloody excellent trucks.

  27. My 1984 Ford F-250 is just short of hitting the 330,000 miles mark. Do I plan to celebrate? Nope. Could hold off the celebration for the 333,333.3 miles mark. But probably won’t celebrate even then. It’s one of those things where if I ever celebrate it’ll go to pieces on me the very same day. Just keep pretending I don’t notice and it may pass the million mile mark some day.

  28. I scanned the comments this morning expecting to see American Socialist, Tony, et al here making a spirited defense of the glorious history of the socialist automobile. So sad they couldn’t make it. Maybe they had to spend the day fixing their Ladas…

    1. Heh. One of my favorite Top Gear episodes was the “Did the communists ever make a good car?” episode.

      No. No, they didn’t.

  29. 16 years to get to 100,000? It must spend most of its days sitting in the garage.

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  31. Kentucky doesn’t have a “right-to-work” law and the most recent attempt died in the State House (Dem controlled.) A couple counties have based local right-to-work ordinances that are currently being adjudicated, Scott County (where the Camry plant has been located for decades) isn’t one of them. However, despite the lack of right-to-work, the plant is non-union.

  32. My first car was a 1969 1100cc Toyota Corolla wagon , $2000 at about a dollar a pound .
    It topped out at slightly over 70 mph and was flimsier than a tin can . It was pretty well rusted out in about half a dozen Chicago winters with about 94k miles on it . Managed to sell it to somebody throwing in the vise-grip which held on the alternator .

    Bought another Corolla Wagon which was vastly improved , about 50% heavier and 50% more expensive .

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